Lakers and Chris Kaman agree to terms on 1 year deal

[IronMaxipad]

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:lobt2:

Another homerun by mitch :king

[DPG21920]

Wow, unless they amnestied MWP, he took a cheap deal. With guys like Zaza getting 5M that is shocking.

[BatManu20]

Championship! :lol

[BatManu20]

Wow, unless they amnestied MWP, he took a cheap deal. With guys like Zaza getting 5M that is shocking.

Not sure if you saw many Mavs games last year but he was pretty awful tbh. At least defensively. A lot of Mavs fans were cursing his name by midseason. I don't think anybody else really wanted him tbh. This was likely his only offer or one of only a couple.

[Killakobe81]

Fuck my (Lakers) life. He sucks. cant rebound. all offense no d. perfect Mike D guy. Oh well... #teamtank

[HarlemHeat37]

Kaman's defense has actually been decent as of late, tbh..he's average, he doesn't hurt defensively..

The problem with Kaman is that he kills your team offense for whatever reason, tbh..he puts up decent individual numbers, but his offensive team metrics are pretty bad, partly due to over-usage though, to be fair..

Kaman as a bench big is pretty good, tbh..as a starter, he sucks..

[Jodelo]

The student has become the teacher!

Have fun with him! :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Get ready for his maddening inconsistency, ADHD moments, softness on the glass and his frustrating habit of passing up dunks for soft missed layups.... all the Lakerfans talking tough about not wanting Bible Kemp back will be changing their minds after they watch this clown play, tbh....

[CitizenDwayne]

This guy is one of the biggest ball stoppers in recent NBA history.

Should be interesting seeing him paired up with Kobe :lol

My sincere condolences, Lakerfan

[BatManu20]

Get ready for his maddening inconsistency, ADHD moments, softness on the glass and his frustrating habit of passing up dunks for soft missed layups.... all the Lakerfans talking tough about not wanting Bible Kemp back will be changing their minds after they watch this clown play, tbh....

You just described Tiago Splitter's scouting report to a T.

[TXstbobcat]

I wanted the spurs to get Kaman a few years ago.

[Clipper Nation]

You just described Tiago Splitter's scouting report to a T.
He's basically an even softer version of Splitter.... I had to sit through 8 years of this scrub at center, pure torture tbh :lol

[TheMACHINE]

one year deal...most important part.

[Raven]

so now they can't even tank properly :lol

[Thread]

one year deal...most important part.

That's it. And that's all.

[Thread]

so now they can't even tank properly :lol

Only pussies & assholes tank.

[Raven]

Only pussies & assholes tank.

i'm sure you'll like 10 years of borderline lottery :lmao

[spurraider21]

I liked kaman is his Clipper days tbh. Was a big fan of his game back then and wanted him on the spurs for awhile. Even last year he showed solid individual offense but his defense and rebounding really fell off a cliff

[Killakobe81]

so now they can't even tank properly :lol

Oh, he WILL help us tank.

[Thread]

i'm sure you'll like 10 years of borderline lottery :lmao

If you've remained barren during that decade,,,no problem.

[TheMACHINE]

how old is this guy.

[Michael Jordan.]

My nigga Mitch Kupchak makin GROWN man moves tbh.

[Thread]

how old is this guy.

Old enough to make a layup or two.

tee, hee.

[Thread]

My nigga Mitch Kupchak makin GROWN man moves tbh.

Here ya are, daddy:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 6

[Raven]

If you've remained barren during that decade,,,no problem.

still delusional? well i guess that is to be expected..

[Thread]

still delusional? well i guess that is to be expected..

After 6 anything is possible.

[BatManu20]

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[Michael Jordan.]

Here ya are, daddy:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 6

Don't bother me pumpkin. I ain't no spur fan.

[DPG21920]

Wow, another guy taking less to play for LA. Shocking.

[Thread]

Don't bother me pumpkin. I ain't no spur fan.

Then you certainly won't mind:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 6

[Michael Jordan.]

Then you certainly won't mind:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 6
True.

Me: 6

Kobe: 5

Hope that don't bother ya, sweetcheeks.

[jeebus]

How much did Mitch beg Kaman to sign? How many loads from Kaman did Jeanie take behind closed doors? How hard did they keep Kirby away from the negotiating table?

[Michael Jordan.]

How much did Mitch beg Kaman to sign? How many loads from Kaman did Jeanie take behind closed doors? How hard did they keep Kirby away from the negotiating table?

Stay tuned to find out on next weeks' episode, of As Jim's world turns.

[Thread]

True.

Me: 6

Kobe: 5

Hope that don't bother ya, sweetcheeks.

Fine, you brazen that one out. I'm stickin' with this one:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 6

[LarryDavid]

Oh, he WILL help us tank.

Tanking won't help. The Lakers don't have a 1st round draft pick until 2016.

[monosylab1k]

I always wondered why Clipper fans and Hornet fans viewed this guy with such contempt. He always puts up decent looking numbers across the board. Then I had him on my team and saw how he might be the biggest empty stats guy in the league. If he gives you 14/8 it's probably the quietest, most worthless 14 and 8 you've ever seen in your life. Big time scrub.

[Killakobe81]

C Pau/Kaman
PF Hill/Pau?
SF ebanks/scrub
SG Meeks/75% of Kobe
PG Nash/Blake

teamtank.com

[Thread]

How much did Mitch beg Kaman to sign? How many loads from Kaman did Jeanie take behind closed doors? How hard did they keep Kirby away from the negotiating table?

Jeebs, runnin' just as fast as he can. You can run till the cow jumps over the moon, daddy-O. 6 will BE waitin' patiently.

Chop/chop.

[Killakobe81]

My bad I forgot Rkelly, Kells Machine Gun Kelly, the pied piper of the of the Dukies ...

[Thread]

C Pau/Kaman
PF Hill/Pau?
SF ebanks/scrub
SG Meeks/75% of Kobe
PG Nash/Blake

teamtank.com

I thought they cut ebanks, Killa?

[AchillesHeel]

Tanking won't help. The Lakers don't have a 1st round draft pick until 2016.

Can't trade consecutive 1st rd picks, they have the next years pick and 2016.

[Thread]

Can't trade consecutive 1st rd picks, they have the next years pick and 2016.

The Ted Stepien rule.

[Twisted_Dawg]

:lol
You just described Tiago Splitter's scouting report to a T.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Lakers and Clippers swapping expiring goods :lol

[Thread]

C Pau/Kaman
PF Hill/Pau?
SF ebanks/scrub
SG Meeks/75% of Kobe
PG Nash/Blake

We're gonna need a bigger boat, Kill. tee, hee.

Oh, Lord.

[IronMaxipad]

The tank is on tbh. Lakers only have vets minimum to fill out the roster. Unless a Pau trade is coming.

[Thread]

The tank is on tbh. Lakers only have vets minimum to fill out the roster. Unless a Pau trade is coming.

I thinks it's been tried and there were no takers.

& I don't think Kobe would stand still for a tank. His biological clock can't stand the strain. If he's ready to go come October there could be a tempest in the old Staples teepee.

Yada hey!

[Killakobe81]

Tanking won't help. The Lakers don't have a 1st round draft pick until 2016.

They have a pick this year, genius.

As L.A. sent away future first-round draft picks last summer in order to acquire Howard and Nash, they were sure to hang onto their first-rounder in 2014. Wiggins is considered a generational talent along the lines of Shaquille O’Neal and LeBron James. But even if L.A. doesn’t end up with the No. 1 pick to land Wiggins, Duke’s Jabari Parker and Oklahoma State’s Marcus Smart are considered can’t-miss prospects, as well.

From ESPN click here (http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/36836/lakers-plan-b-requires-patience)

[Raven]

Tanking won't help. The Lakers don't have a 1st round draft pick until 2016.

really? i thought they had their 2014 first rounder.

[Killakobe81]

really? i thought they had their 2014 first rounder.

We do only one we have until 2016 I think ...

[Katherine Robinson]

Gathering corpses to fortify Nash, it's clearly a tank year to everybody except Kobe Bryant.

[Killakobe81]

Gathering corpses to fortify Nash, it's clearly a tank year to everybody except Kobe Bryant.

Front office too ...but even with these feeble attempts we still may not win more than 30 games.

[Raven]

Gathering corpses to fortify Nash, it's clearly a tank year to everybody except Kobe Bryant.

isn't getting veterans on one year deal the exact opposite to tanking? i thought they should have filled the roster with young undrafted scrubs..

[baseline bum]

It makes sense for him. Kaman is the master of putting up empty numbers on shit teams with no expectations to get that next grossly overpaid contract.

[jeebus]

Jeebs, runnin' just as fast as he can. You can run till the cow jumps over the moon, daddy-O. 6 will BE waitin' patiently.

Chop/chop.
I don't run. I muster up a speed walk at most. Doesn't change the fact that Jeanie got on her back.

[Clipper Nation]

The tank is on tbh.
No, it's not :lol

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[benefactor]

:lol trying to field something

No one believes that.

[Katherine Robinson]

isn't getting veterans on one year deal the exact opposite to tanking? i thought they should have filled the roster with young undrafted scrubs..

The backlash from a true tanking, such as what Utah is doing, would be immense. These single year deals coincide with two major contracts falling from the books and a deep draft with a shot in the dark at a good pick. If the corruption of Stern/Silver have merit, a 30 win season would be all the team needs to tank.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol trying to field something

No one believes that.
It's absolutely believable.... Jimbo is that delusional and entitled....

[IronMaxipad]

No, it's not :lol

354342310718353408
Right. :lol

They can't admit that they're going to tank breh.

[Thread]

I don't run. I muster up a speed walk at most. Doesn't change the fact that Jeanie got on her back.

You've nary room. Amy Duncan had her white ass high in the air as well.

[jeebus]

You've nary room. Amy Duncan had her white ass high in the air as well.
You're not a Spur unless your wife is a whore or you fuck someone else's wife. The Lakers are better than that.

[LarryDavid]

They have a pick this year, genius.

As L.A. sent away future first-round draft picks last summer in order to acquire Howard and Nash, they were sure to hang onto their first-rounder in 2014. Wiggins is considered a generational talent along the lines of Shaquille O’Neal and LeBron James. But even if L.A. doesn’t end up with the No. 1 pick to land Wiggins, Duke’s Jabari Parker and Oklahoma State’s Marcus Smart are considered can’t-miss prospects, as well.

From ESPN click here (http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/36836/lakers-plan-b-requires-patience)

My bad, I thought it was traded to Houston as part of the Jordan Hill trade.

[Thread]

My bad, I thought it was traded to Houston as part of the Jordan Hill trade.

Well, you were fucking wrong about 4 times over. Don't ever say it again. We have our pick in '14, by God.

[JamStone]

Next to come, the corpse of Raja Bell

[Sportcamper]

I think the Lakers season is shaping up rather nicely...

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKGHjRwbMQ0bTq4_olBqO9ClnCBcz-PscUjRmGtxsD6myqwfXAkGGp5XT2

[JamStone]

i'm sure you'll like 10 years of borderline lottery :lmao

Not sure if you really believe that or not. But like it or not, the Lakers are really the only NBA franchise that will never go through too long a dry spell. In their franchise history, the longest they went without at least getting out of the first round of the playoffs is 3 seasons. Now there have been championship droughts, but they'll reload sooner rather than later, and much sooner than any other NBA team would in a similar situation. That's just what happens with the Lakers.

[jeebus]

Next to come, the corpse of Raja Bell
lmao I forgot about him. that fag is gonna drive Kirby to suicide.

[Koolaid_Man]

True.

Me: 6

Kobe: 5

Hope that don't bother ya, sweetcheeks.

not at all as long as this doesn't bother you pumpkin pous:


Lakers 16

Bulls 6


Checkmate!!! mate :hat

[Raven]

Not sure if you really believe that or not. But like it or not, the Lakers are really the only NBA franchise that will never go through too long a dry spell. In their franchise history, the longest they went without at least getting out of the first round of the playoffs is 3 seasons. Now there have been championship droughts, but they'll reload sooner rather than later, and much sooner than any other NBA team would in a similar situation. That's just what happens with the Lakers.

yeah, i really believe that.. i understand your point, but i just don't see it happen this time.. by borderline lottery i mean the houston destiny until this year.. also the premise is that the lakers never tank..

[Killakobe81]

yeah, i really believe that.. i understand your point, but i just don't see it happen this time.. by borderline lottery i mean the houston destiny until this year.. also the premise is that the lakers never tank..

We will this year ... Im afraid. We may not have a choice.

[Baseline]

Why so glum, Lakerfan? Kobe'll teach him how to win championships!!!

[Koolaid_Man]

Good bench signing....can relieve Pau for good minutes...a savvy vet...I suspect will have a better offensive season that Calvin Murphy Jr...

[Killakobe81]

Why so glum, Lakerfan? Kobe'll teach him how to win championships!!!

From the bench?! I aint glum. Just a realist. Glum was two weeks ago around these parts ... the silence was deafening. I am afraid we won't tank. Take another sweep or just barely miss the playoffs. Kobe will kill himself to return for a "busted season".

[DPG21920]

:lol Kool reduce to rooting for this white man after all that "white man don't know the game" talk :lol

[Thread]

Why so glum, Lakerfan? Kobe'll teach him how to win championships!!!

If Artest can learn anything is possible.

[Thread]

:lol Kool reduce to rooting for this white man after all that "white man don't know the game" talk :lol

He did exclude my honkey ass from the blanket.

[DPG21920]

No he didn't. He called you everything under the Sun just last week due to your basketball takes during the Dwight saga.

[Trill Clinton]

one year deal...most important part.


That's it. And that's all.

:lol

[Thread]

No he didn't. He called you everything under the Sun just last week due to your basketball takes during the Dwight saga.

Confirm, Kool.

[DPG21920]

You two were arguing in plain sight for all to see and he basically called you an idiot by disagreeing so violently with you.

[jeebus]

Kobe will kill himself

Good.

[Katherine Robinson]

We will this year ... Im afraid. We may not have a choice.

Lakers are in dire need of a new franchise player with Kobe's looming departure, tanking could possibly expedite the roster reload which will happen sans Kobe & Gasol's salary.

[Michael Jordan.]

Not sure if you really believe that or not. But like it or not, the Lakers are really the only NBA franchise that will never go through too long a dry spell. In their franchise history, the longest they went without at least getting out of the first round of the playoffs is 3 seasons. Now there have been championship droughts, but they'll reload sooner rather than later, and much sooner than any other NBA team would in a similar situation. That's just what happens with the Lakers.
Jerry Buss's Lakers would have never begged an insignificant FA to stay like they did now.

[Thread]

You two were arguing in plain sight for all to see and he basically called you an idiot by disagreeing so violently with you.

Had nothing to do with my skin pigment. I'm telling you he excluded my white ass from that separate equation the other day.

[D-Wade]

Knowing him from fantasy, Kaman can score but he also takes a lot of shots. I was surprised at how inefficient he was as a big. Guys like Wade and Tony have better efficiency in the paint than he does it seems like. Not a terrible pickup by any means but he's not great either.

[DPG21920]

Had nothing to do with my skin pigment. I'm telling you he excluded my white ass from that separate equation the other day.

That is even worse if true. That means he thought you were an idiot on merit alone.

[Thread]

That is even worse if true. That means he thought you were an idiot on merit alone.

You're never wrongPERIOD

[DPG21920]

I am wrong sometimes and I put my money where my mouth is and pay up for being wrong when I am.

I am above reproach in this regard.

[Killakobe81]

Jerry Buss's Lakers would have never begged an insignificant FA to stay like they did now.

Insignificant? He is the best centeri the NBA. It was Kobe holding him back to hear some tell it, tbh. :wakeup

[Thread]

I am wrong sometimes and I put my money where my mouth is and pay up for being wrong when I am.

I am above reproach in this regard.

Please. You & DUNCAN are never wrongPERIOD

[DPG21920]

Well, I just admitted I have been wrong so that doesn't make any sense. You just know very little about basketball and get your panties in a wad when someone you don't like (DPG) calls you on your crap. I just can't let it go. That much is true.

[Thread]

Well, I just admitted I have been wrong so that doesn't make any sense. You just know very little about basketball and get your panties in a wad when someone you don't like (DPG) calls you on your crap. I just can't let it go. That much is true.

You & DUNCAN are never wrongPERIOD

[Michael Jordan.]

http://s23.postimg.org/uzsp3a65n/Kamannodawite.png

[Thread]

http://s23.postimg.org/uzsp3a65n/Kamannodawite.png

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 6

[JamStone]

Jerry Buss's Lakers would have never begged an insignificant FA to stay like they did now.

That has nothing to do with my post.

[Michael Jordan.]

That has nothing to do with my post.
Oh really? You posted about how the Lakers never go through a dry spell and always reload. These aren't the same Lakers run by the same management. And no one wants to play for Mike D'antoni.

[JamStone]

Oh really? You posted about how the Lakers never go through a dry spell and always reload. These aren't the same Lakers run by the same management. And no one wants to play for Mike D'antoni.

That lack of a dry spell... that's in their entire 65 or so year history. Jerry Buss didn't own the Lakers since 1948. Despite not having the championship success under Buss, the Lakers didn't hit long dry spells of mediocrity or being bad in the 1960s or 70s either. The Lakers draw talent. Not just because of Los Angeles, but now also because of its history and tradition. It doesn't matter if no one wants to play for D'Antoni because if D'Antoni doesn't have success soon, he'll be gone quickly. When Kobe's done, they'll find another franchise star somehow. They always do.

Suggesting they'll go through a decade long stretch of being a borderline lottery team is just not realistic. Maybe it takes more than 3 years to get back to being an elite team, but staying a mediocre or bad team for 10 years? Won't happen.

[IronMaxipad]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOr16RjCYAAe1h2.jpg

[Raven]

That lack of a dry spell... that's in their entire 65 or so year history. Jerry Buss didn't own the Lakers since 1948. Despite not having the championship success under Buss, the Lakers didn't hit long dry spells of mediocrity or being bad in the 1960s or 70s either. The Lakers draw talent. Not just because of Los Angeles, but now also because of its history and tradition. It doesn't matter if no one wants to play for D'Antoni because if D'Antoni doesn't have success soon, he'll be gone quickly. When Kobe's done, they'll find another franchise star somehow. They always do.

Suggesting they'll go through a decade long stretch of being a borderline lottery team is just not realistic. Maybe it takes more than 3 years to get back to being an elite team, but staying a mediocre or bad team for 10 years? Won't happen.

what exactly do you expect them to do to become relevant again? let's say in 3 years

[Clipper Nation]

That lack of a dry spell... that's in their entire 65 or so year history. Jerry Buss didn't own the Lakers since 1948.

No, but they never really had a bad owner during that time.... Berger and Chalfen got it started, Bob Short turned them around after some lean years and moved them to LA, and Jack Kent Cooke kept the dynasty going.... now Jimbo's in charge and it's already a trainwreck, he appears to be the LA version of James Dolan, tbh....

The Lakers also finally have competition for free agents and ratings dollars from the Clippers and a new generation of stars who care more about the here and now than about age-old history and dusty old banners.... it's gonna be an uphill slog unless the league steps in and forces them back into relevance....

[djohn2oo8]

No, but they never really had a bad owner during that time.... Berger and Chalfen got it started, Bob Short turned them around after some lean years and moved them to LA, and Jack Kent Cooke kept the dynasty going.... now Jimbo's in charge and it's already a trainwreck, he appears to be the LA version of James Dolan, tbh....

The Lakers also finally have competition for free agents and ratings dollars from the Clippers and a new generation of stars who care more about the here and now than about age-old history and dusty old banners.... it's gonna be an uphill slog unless the league steps in and forces them back into relevance....

Yup. Jimmy was talked into firing D'antoni last year until they went on the winning streak. And used it as a "told you so" moment. Great move tbh :lol

[Rogue]

Solid signing imho, at least they have a center now who will play 60+ games a season and won't act a bitch towards his fans and teammates.

[baseline bum]

That lack of a dry spell... that's in their entire 65 or so year history. Jerry Buss didn't own the Lakers since 1948. Despite not having the championship success under Buss, the Lakers didn't hit long dry spells of mediocrity or being bad in the 1960s or 70s either. The Lakers draw talent. Not just because of Los Angeles, but now also because of its history and tradition. It doesn't matter if no one wants to play for D'Antoni because if D'Antoni doesn't have success soon, he'll be gone quickly. When Kobe's done, they'll find another franchise star somehow. They always do.

Suggesting they'll go through a decade long stretch of being a borderline lottery team is just not realistic. Maybe it takes more than 3 years to get back to being an elite team, but staying a mediocre or bad team for 10 years? Won't happen.

The Celtics went through almost a decade of complete irrelevance, followed by a couple of good years and then 4-5 really bad ones. Don't see why the Lakers can't too when being run by a moron.

[whitemamba]

Mitch already building his resume for GM of the year.

[whitemamba]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOr16RjCYAAe1h2.jpg

:lmao

[JamStone]

what exactly do you expect them to do to become relevant again? let's say in 3 years

I don't know. It's just that history suggests they will. Maybe Carmelo gets sick of the Knicks not getting it right and decides to join the Lakers. Maybe they somehow woo Kevin Durant. Maybe the Russian sells the Nets and Deron Williams and Brook Lopez get gifted to the Lakers. Maybe there's a draft day deal that gets the Lakers one of the next superstars. Who knows? I don't nor do I claim to know. The Lakers just find ways to do it way more quickly than any other team in the league. They have never been irrelevant for too long. A handful of seasons at most. You're suggesting a decade. I think it's unrealistic.

Mind you, I'm not saying they'll be championship contenders immediately or can do that in a 3 year stretch, just not a lottery team or borderline lottery team for 10 straight years.

[JamStone]

The Celtics went through almost a decade of complete irrelevance, followed by a couple of good years and then 4-5 really bad ones. Don't see why the Lakers can't too when being run by a moron.

The majority of the Celtics success was based on drafting and/or scouting (in the Bill Russell years), and then two major trades (Parish, McHale and KG, Ray Allen). They haven't had the free agent draw the Lakers have always seemed to have. Even when the Lakers are bad, they will find high level free agents to come there. Maybe not always superstars, but among the top free agents. I see Dwight Howard spurning them much more likely to be an exception than a precedent of what's to happen in coming years.

[DPG21920]

The majority of the Celtics success was based on drafting and/or scouting (in the Bill Russell years), and then two major trades (Parish, McHale and KG, Ray Allen). They haven't had the free agent draw the Lakers have always seemed to have. Even when the Lakers are bad, they will find high level free agents to come there. Maybe not always superstars, but among the top free agents. I see Dwight Howard spurning them much more likely to be an exception than a precedent of what's to happen in coming years.

Depends on how long Kobe plays. Doesn't seem like many want to play with him.

[JamStone]

No, but they never really had a bad owner during that time.... Berger and Chalfen got it started, Bob Short turned them around after some lean years and moved them to LA, and Jack Kent Cooke kept the dynasty going.... now Jimbo's in charge and it's already a trainwreck, he appears to be the LA version of James Dolan, tbh....

The Lakers also finally have competition for free agents and ratings dollars from the Clippers and a new generation of stars who care more about the here and now than about age-old history and dusty old banners.... it's gonna be an uphill slog unless the league steps in and forces them back into relevance....

If David Stern didn't veto the CP3 to the Lakers trade, do you think CP3 would have left the Lakers to sign with the Clippers?

CP3 re-signing is very much a product of him getting traded there. The Clippers also won the lottery to get Blake Griffin.

Re-signing Matt Barnes, signing a 40 year old Grant Hill last year, signing fat Lamar... and those are the "good" free agents the Clippers are pulling. I'm not sure the Clippers will necessarily be a better draw for elite free agents, especially with most of their cap spent on CP3/Griffin/Jordan and the Lakers seemingly going to have a lot of cap space in upcoming seasons especially when Kobe retires.

And remember, as bad as the Lakers season was last year and for the Clippers having its franchise best regular season, the Lakers made it just as far in the playoffs as the Clippers did, exiting the first round. I think you may overestimate the appeal and draw of the Clippers.

[JamStone]

Depends on how long Kobe plays. Doesn't seem like many want to play with him.

Shrugs, maybe. But Kobe isn't playing much longer. 2-3 years tops. After that, won't the top free agents want to go to the Lakers if they get max contracts with all the cap space Kobe's salary will create being off the books?

[Killakobe81]

Clips just a passing fad. They need to win and win soon. I hope they dobecause I bet Sterling wont keep taht team together unless they do, the cheap bastard!

[Clipper Nation]

Sterling's still an asshole, but I can't really say he's cheap anymore, not with the high-priced training facility, the highest paid coach in the league and all the money spent on the roster, tbh..... he's also 80 years old and senile, I'd be surprised if he owns the team for much longer...

[spurraider21]

I don't know. It's just that history suggests they will. Maybe Carmelo gets sick of the Knicks not getting it right and decides to join the Lakers. Maybe they somehow woo Kevin Durant. Maybe the Russian sells the Nets and Deron Williams and Brook Lopez get gifted to the Lakers. Maybe there's a draft day deal that gets the Lakers one of the next superstars. Who knows? I don't nor do I claim to know. The Lakers just find ways to do it way more quickly than any other team in the league. They have never been irrelevant for too long. A handful of seasons at most. You're suggesting a decade. I think it's unrealistic.

Mind you, I'm not saying they'll be championship contenders immediately or can do that in a 3 year stretch, just not a lottery team or borderline lottery team for 10 straight years.
this sounds a lot like the Lakers pitch to Dwight...

So Dwight says the rockets are better NOW, and they have a good young core. why should I stay with the Lakers.

Lakers: Because we're the Lakers.

this whole "because they're the lakers" bullshit is sickening. lets see something concrete before we start talking about how competitive they'll be in 3 years. they have something like 2 first round picks in the next 5 years. they're not going to suck enough to get Wiggins or Parker (most probably), and LeBron ain't coming to LA, while Melo will be bad for the team since they won't be able to land lottery players and won't be good enough to win anything.

[Killakobe81]

Sterling's still an asshole, but I can't really say he's cheap anymore, not with the high-priced training facility, the highest paid coach in the league and all the money spent on the roster, tbh..... he's also 80 years old and senile, I'd be surprised if he owns the team for much longer...

Maybe you are right, we will see. I dont hate the Clips. Yall hold down Staples for a few seasons while we get our shit back together ...

[JamStone]

this sounds a lot like the Lakers pitch to Dwight...

So Dwight says the rockets are better NOW, and they have a good young core. why should I stay with the Lakers.

Lakers: Because we're the Lakers.

this whole "because they're the lakers" bullshit is sickening. lets see something concrete before we start talking about how competitive they'll be in 3 years. they have something like 2 first round picks in the next 5 years. they're not going to suck enough to get Wiggins or Parker (most probably), and LeBron ain't coming to LA, while Melo will be bad for the team since they won't be able to land lottery players and won't be good enough to win anything.

Why is 60+ years of history not good enough evidence, but one pretty bad season and a star free agent not choosing them concrete enough evidence to predict 10 years of mediocrity?

The initial contention I argued with was that the Lakers would be a borderline lottery team for the next 10 years. Where's concrete evidence for that?

[spurraider21]

Why is 60+ years of history not good enough evidence, but one pretty bad season and a star free agent not choosing them concrete enough evidence to predict 10 years of mediocrity?

The initial contention I argued with was that the Lakers would be a borderline lottery team for the next 10 years. Where's concrete evidence for that?

The fact that the Lakers have never had a prime free agent walk away from them tells you that things are different. the lakers most recent drought of competitiveness was from 05-07 until they got the gift, which propelled them to the top of the league. the time before, they got back on top because they just so happened to sign shaq, one the biggest free agent acquisitions in league history. the lakers don't really have valuable assets that would land them another gift and the only player that is a free agent possibility in the near future that could mimic shaq's impact is LeBron, but the general consensus is it ain't happening. i just want to see how one expects them to regain competitiveness. what is the plan? who are their targets? they won't really be able to rebuild through the draft unless they land wiggins and put a team around that. even earl clark left

[JamStone]

And yet where is the concrete evidence that those things will cause 10 years of mediocrity? 10 years is an awful long time. 10 years?

[Koolaid_Man]

Well, I just admitted I just can't let it go. That much is true.

Yo....step away from the dick son :lol

[racm]

He's basically an even softer version of Splitter.... I had to sit through 8 years of this scrub at center, pure torture tbh :lol
At least Splitter has near-elite pick and roll defense to fall back on. Kaman's P&R D made the Brazilian look like prime Amare.

[TimmehC]

i'm sure you'll like 10 years of borderline lottery :lmao

The curse of Daryl Morey. Somehow he transferred it to Kobestan.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Clips just a passing fad. They need to win and win soon. I hope they dobecause I bet Sterling wont keep taht team together unless they do, the cheap bastard!

Sterling has surprised a lot of Clipper fans the past 2 years. 50 win team, division title, 20+ winning streak and numerous national TV exposures.The taste of success really has him going. He has committed top dollar on CP3, signed a coach of Doc's caliber and has been signing quality players to bolster our bench. I think he's in it to win it lol!


Clippers are honestly in good shape, they will be better than the Lakers for at least the next 4-5 years, and this is taking the Lakers' massive cap space into consideration. Clippers have a 3 year window with this core IMHO. I don't know if they'll win a title, if they don't in 3 years, then we'll see their key pieces slowly being traded. I was hoping they'll get KG but that fell through the cracks. They're still in limbo as long as DJ is the Clippers starting Center.

[racm]

Sterling has surprised a lot of Clipper fans the past 2 years. 50 win team, division title, 20+ winning streak and numerous national TV exposures.The taste of success really has him going. He has committed top dollar on CP3, signed a coach of Doc's caliber and has been signing quality players to bolster our bench. I think he's in it to win it lol!


Clippers are honestly in good shape, they will be better than the Lakers for at least the next 4-5 years, and this is taking the Lakers' massive cap space into consideration. Clippers have a 3 year window with this core IMHO. I don't know if they'll win a title, if they don't in 3 years, then we'll see their key pieces slowly being traded. I was hoping they'll get KG but that fell through the cracks. They're still in limbo as long as DJ is the Clippers starting Center.

Sterling's been less of a cheapass since Paul arrived and his son? died.

[Buddy Mignon]

Sterling has surprised a lot of Clipper fans the past 2 years. 50 win team, division title, 20+ winning streak and numerous national TV exposures.The taste of success really has him going. He has committed top dollar on CP3, signed a coach of Doc's caliber and has been signing quality players to bolster our bench. I think he's in it to win it lol!


Clippers are honestly in good shape, they will be better than the Lakers for at least the next 4-5 years, and this is taking the Lakers' massive cap space into consideration. Clippers have a 3 year window with this core IMHO. I don't know if they'll win a title, if they don't in 3 years, then we'll see their key pieces slowly being traded. I was hoping they'll get KG but that fell through the cracks. They're still in limbo as long as DJ is the Clippers starting Center.


Need I remind you that your star player can't even get his shot off when the shit gets thick? The Clippers are a team and fanbase of has-beens and life long losers. That ain't never changing. Just be happy that we allow you guys to rent our arena.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Lakers are banking on 2014. Lebron, Wade and Bosh will not leave. Not after winning their back2back. Even if they don't pan out next year, I'm positive 2 of those will stay with Miami and the third can go to the Lakers (and its not Lebron :lol) and that guy assuming Bosh) won't make a damn mark in that franchise. 2015? Rondo, Love and LMA are the top FA's, but ask yourself if any of these can really continue L.A.'s tradition of winning a title.


I know Dwight is not a popular player in Lakers history, but losing him was a big blow. None of the key Free Agent can alter a franchise like Dwight tbh.

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None of the key Free Agent can alter a franchise like Dwight tbh.

Thank Christ.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Need I remind you that your star player can't even get his shot off when the shit gets thick? The Clippers are a team and fanbase of has-beens and life long losers. That ain't never changing. Just be happy that we allow you guys to rent our arena.

Miami was also once considered a horrible expansion team. They also had a crappy fan base (still does btw) and their franchise was carried by players like Rony Seikaly and Harold Miner. :lol I don't understand why people bring history all the time as if its a good indicator of what a team under new management can do. its irrelevant tbh. My point is the Clippers are being ran by a better management, no more Elgin baylor, thank you and for the first time since Larry Brown, we had a coach who actually knows how to Coach a little bit :lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

Thank Christ.

You agree though that none of the free agents in 2014 and 2015 gives you a hard on, correct?

[Calispursfan11]

Tbh, Kaman > Dwightmare tbh when all factors are taken into account. Kaman is a good, deferential teammate who will cater to Kobe and play his role without being a primadonna drama queen about it. Kaman also has far superior post skills as compared to Dwight, who at present looks like he learned post skills from the Neanderthal man before he discovered fire.

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You agree though that none of the free agents in 2014 and 2015 gives you a hard on, correct?

I don't do draft choices, S&H. I'd let others trial & error them, vet 'em out, then sign them after they've done their internship elsewhere like Pau and Artest for instance. Even more so the 1 & done's. Its a recipe for disaster. These are children. You have a better chance of hitting a state Lottery versus the NBA Lottery.

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Tbh, Kaman > Dwightmare tbh when all factors are taken into account. Kaman is a good, deferential teammate who will cater to Kobe and play his role without being a primadonna drama queen about it. Kaman also has far superior post skills as compared to Dwight, who at present looks like he learned post skills from the Neanderthal man before he discovered fire.

If this comes to fruition I'll kiss ya, sweetheart. Do you think you'd like the smell of geezer?

[Calispursfan11]

If this comes to fruition I'll kiss ya, sweetheart. Do you think you'd like the smell of geezer?

Mark my words friend, this will come to pass...

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Mark my words friend, this will come to pass...

So will the meatballs I just had for dinner, but, that doesn't it means it's gonna be pleasant.

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Serious question, do the Lakers have a 2014 1st round pick?

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Serious question, do the Lakers have a 2014 1st round pick?

lol!!!!!!!!!

[ElNono]

solid signing... finally found somebody to fortify Nash, tbh

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solid signing... finally found somebody to fortify Nash, tbh

Thank God you remembered that, El. You needed a pick-me-up.

Love ya, puddinhead.

- Pappy

[ElNono]

Wonder if he'll wear #12, tbh

[-21-]

You guys should just tank for Wiggins. :lol

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You guys should just tank for Wiggins. :lol

I'd rather package that pick now (I know you can't, but, just for argument sake), couple it with Pau and see if we could garner something special and try it again. *take into account we hadn't let Artest go.

[Raven]

I don't know. It's just that history suggests they will. Maybe Carmelo gets sick of the Knicks not getting it right and decides to join the Lakers. Maybe they somehow woo Kevin Durant. Maybe the Russian sells the Nets and Deron Williams and Brook Lopez get gifted to the Lakers. Maybe there's a draft day deal that gets the Lakers one of the next superstars. Who knows? I don't nor do I claim to know. The Lakers just find ways to do it way more quickly than any other team in the league. They have never been irrelevant for too long. A handful of seasons at most. You're suggesting a decade. I think it's unrealistic.

Mind you, I'm not saying they'll be championship contenders immediately or can do that in a 3 year stretch, just not a lottery team or borderline lottery team for 10 straight years.

yes but that's with the premise they will not be tanking.. Also if you think about it, there is really not much they can do, they suck at drafting and there are no superstars that will move from their teams.. All the young studs are rfa so they would need five more years to rule them away, melo isn't doing them any good and the lebrons and durants will stay where they are. The rules have changed..

[Sportstudi]

Kaman in a nutshell

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^Oh, Lord.

[Michael Jordan.]

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