View Full Version : Report: Gary Neal is likely to re-sign with the Spurs
ace3g
07-09-2013, 10:41 AM
I hope this isn't true
Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling) 8m (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling/status/354624186284638208) League source: Gary Neal is likely to re-sign with the Spurs.
Mr.Bottomtooth
07-09-2013, 10:42 AM
I hope this isn't true
Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling) 8m (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling/status/354624186284638208) League source: Gary Neal is likely to re-sign with the Spurs.
... I don't get it.
Robz4000
07-09-2013, 10:43 AM
Oh God what? If that's true there has to be a trade in the works.
elemento
07-09-2013, 10:43 AM
:lol
I am ready to watch a lot of small-ball this season
TXstbobcat
07-09-2013, 10:44 AM
I hope this isn't true
Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling) 8m (https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling/status/354624186284638208) League source: Gary Neal is likely to re-sign with the Spurs.
I didn't expect this. I thought he would get a 3 to 4 million per year offer from someone else and the spurs would let him walk.
ducks
07-09-2013, 10:45 AM
neal was suppodesly getting offers spurs refused to match so they signed someone else
wtf
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-09-2013, 10:46 AM
I always thought Bonner/Neal for Ellis would be a good trade for both teams. It still might materialize.
Either way, yes, it looks like the Spurs will be playing small ball with a high rotation this season. Well, that is how they got the #1 seed out West and in the NBA two of the last 3 years.
ohmwrecker
07-09-2013, 10:46 AM
I would be fine with Neal coming back if they move Bonner/DeColo/Mills.
I hope it is, Gary is our best shooter and has been incredible for us so far.
MeloHype
07-09-2013, 10:51 AM
Sign him then trade Nando, Bonner, & Joesph
Amuseddaysleeper
07-09-2013, 11:03 AM
I would be fine with Neal coming back if they move Bonner/DeColo/Mills.
Preferably Bonner or De Colo.
I like Mills and still think he has potential.
ohmwrecker
07-09-2013, 11:06 AM
Sign him then trade Nando, Bonner, & Joesph
I like CoJo. He is a decent defender at his position and he has improved fast. I'd like prefer to see what another year in the system would do for him.
ohmwrecker
07-09-2013, 11:08 AM
Preferably Bonner or De Colo.
I like Mills and still think he has potential.
I like Mills too. He's a likeable guy. He's just too small for a tweener and not skilled enough to play point efficiently. I don't think the Spurs should pay somebody to wave towels.
apalisoc_9
07-09-2013, 11:08 AM
Why would Neal settle for less? I don't get it. Maybe he loves SA or something...
I smell a trade though.
Amuseddaysleeper
07-09-2013, 11:11 AM
I like Mills too. He's a likeable guy. He's just too small for a tweener and not skilled enough to play point efficiently. I don't think the Spurs should pay somebody to wave towels.
That's fair, but Mills can get hot in a hurry. His D isn' very good, but I hope he gets a final chance this upcoming season before the Spurs decide to cut the chord.
monkeypunk
07-09-2013, 11:12 AM
If there is a trade, I'd prefer to give up Mills over DeColo. At least DeColo can create and defend.
But you have to give up something good to get something good back (unless you're the Lakeshow..) so if the return was good enough, I'd be okay with giving up either...
But Beli and Neal both doesn't make a lot of sense for the team or Neal really. Not sure why he'd actually come back.
loveforthegame
07-09-2013, 11:18 AM
It makes no sense to bring Neal back even if they trade Mills and DeColo. WTF.
DesignatedT
07-09-2013, 11:18 AM
I hope we re-sign Neal and get rid of Mills+ De Colo
AFBlue
07-09-2013, 11:25 AM
Makes sense at this point...Spurs are over the cap, so they maximize their depth of talent and tradeable assets.
AFBlue
07-09-2013, 11:26 AM
It makes no sense to bring Neal back even if they trade Mills and DeColo. WTF.
Beli at backup SF tbh
Leetonidas
07-09-2013, 11:27 AM
wow, if they re-sign him a trade or something is definitely in the works...Spurs can't possibly carry 8 guards into the season
loveforthegame
07-09-2013, 11:31 AM
If they trade a combo of Mills, NDC, and Joseph to keep Neal then guess who the backup pg will be?? That's worked out so well in the past.
Mel_13
07-09-2013, 11:32 AM
Beli at backup SF tbh
Beli as the 4th wing looks like the plan even without Neal. With Neal and Beli both on the squad, as Bruno points, you have to play Neal at backup PG.
DesignatedT
07-09-2013, 11:34 AM
I agree Neal might play some PG but if you throw him out there with Manu than Manu is practically the PG in that scenario. Tony and Cory as well.
ohmwrecker
07-09-2013, 11:37 AM
It makes no sense to bring Neal back even if they trade Mills and DeColo. WTF.
I would take Neal over both of those players even with his deficiencies at pg.
StoneBuddha
07-09-2013, 11:38 AM
I like the idea of stockpiling assets at this point. If you're over the cap and Holt is willing to pay, you can get a nice, needed piece down the road that could push the team over the top.
Darkwaters
07-09-2013, 11:43 AM
Yea, if we could move Mills/DeColo and keep Neal (for a reasonable rate) then I'd be game.
He got a bad rap this year, but I still love the guy.
If he does end up walking though, I hope he makes a shitload of cash.
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-09-2013, 11:46 AM
Neal played pretty good in alot of games for the Spurs when Manu went down in Jan-Feb. Funny thing is, when Manu went down again in Mar-Apr, Neal was injured as well and the bench scoring was a glaring need.
Neal is an asset, especially in a 82 game season. But I wouldn't be surprise a sign-n-trade are in the works as the Bucks need shooters.
I don't put stock into anything "sources" say about the Spurs and their moves until they happen. When has a rumor ever panned out?
dbestpro
07-09-2013, 01:19 PM
Beli at backup SF tbh
With Neal, you have to push Green to the backup SF slot. Manu will start to protect him from himself. It is the only logical move with so many guards. Green is the only one on the list who has effectively played SF.
tp2021
07-09-2013, 01:25 PM
In theory, Danny could play SF. But IIRC he was horrible last season during a stretch where he had to play lots of minutes at SF. I think timvp even started a thread about it.
Doesn't make sense unless there's a trade in the works...
xmas1997
07-09-2013, 01:35 PM
What if the Wolves want him?
tesseractive
07-09-2013, 01:37 PM
That's fair, but Mills can get hot in a hurry. His D isn' very good, but I hope he gets a final chance this upcoming season before the Spurs decide to cut the chord.
If we bring back Neal, Mills is behind Green, Ginobili, Belinelli, and Neal on the SG depth chart and can't really play the point. I don't have anything against Patty, but in the absence of a trade, bringing back Neal all but guarantees that Mills won't even sniff the active roster.
Hoops Czar
07-09-2013, 01:56 PM
If we bring back Neal, Mills is behind Green, Ginobili, Belinelli, and Neal on the SG depth chart and can't really play the point. I don't have anything against Patty, but in the absence of a trade, bringing back Neal all but guarantees that Mills won't even sniff the active roster.
Neither will De Colo. Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad.
timvp
07-09-2013, 02:00 PM
That would be a surprising turn of events. Neal as the full-time backup point guard? Don't love the idea.
Then again, it depends on the salary he'll command on the open market. If it's reasonable, it'd be kinda foolish for the Spurs to let him walk.......
spurraider21
07-09-2013, 02:02 PM
That would be a surprising turn of events. Neal as the full-time backup point guard? Don't love the idea.
Then again, it depends on the salary he'll command on the open market. If it's reasonable, it'd be kinda foolish for the Spurs to let him walk.......
What becomes of Joseph, De Colo, Mills? Just wasted salary/roster spots?
RD2191
07-09-2013, 02:08 PM
Neal is garbage on D but he can hit some shots. I wouldn't mind him resigning.
monkeypunk
07-09-2013, 02:11 PM
Too many shooting guards and not enough real point guards as it is.
No reason or minutes for Neal at sg and he's proven to be a sorry excuse for a pg...
TheCerebral1
07-09-2013, 02:13 PM
Why can't RC and Pop just let some guys go and bring in new pieces. I do not want to see Neal handling the ball anymore on this team.
SpursSerb
07-09-2013, 02:14 PM
Suprised he didn't draw bigger interest on the market.
weebo
07-09-2013, 02:18 PM
Neal is a one trick pony and that's it. His handles are horrific, can't create offense for anyone else, and his D is worse. spurs don't need him.
HarlemHeat37
07-09-2013, 02:24 PM
Neal is ass and I was hoping his stint as a Spur would be over, but if his salary is cheap, I won't be mad if the Spurs retain him, tbh..
He's much better than Mills or De Colo, obviously..
My concern is that Neal and Beli are the same player, tbh..chuckers that can get hot, but can hurt your team with their decisions and play atrocious defense..
OTOH, on a team like the Spurs that will continue to limit minutes, depth is a premium, and it never hurts to have too many shooters..
I'm hoping there will be a trade or move that will acquire a big SF or small PF, though..Kirilenko would be ideal, but World Peace would be fine..
houston spurs fan
07-09-2013, 02:26 PM
Maybe parlay this into a trade. Splitter, Neal, De Colo, and draft pick for LaMarcus Aldrige?
spurraider21
07-09-2013, 02:28 PM
Maybe parlay this into a trade. Splitter, Neal, De Colo, and draft pick for LaMarcus Aldrige?
Highly doubtful
Chinook
07-09-2013, 02:32 PM
I don't like this. It would have made sense for the Spurs to re-sign Neal, ignore Belinelli and sign Pendergraph to the room exception. That would have left the team with a good chunk of cap space (about the size of the MLE) had the waived Bonner. But they've used all their flexibility to sign players at the positions of maximum depth. They have to have a plan to get rid of some of it: Eight guards is just absurd.
This signals to me that Ginobili will either be the starting two-guard or backup small-forward next season. That's not a bad thing, since Ginobili has the savvy to get away there for a few minutes and if Green moves there, he'd be more than fine. But I don't think either move would be ideal, and the team really didn't have to paint themselves in the corner that way. I expect to see some moves if only because De Colo would be livid at Neal coming back.
spurraider21
07-09-2013, 02:43 PM
Yeah, the Belinelli signing makes zero sense considering the return of Manu AND Neal. I don't hate any of these guys, but the redundancy is obvious
apalisoc_9
07-09-2013, 02:44 PM
what happens if kawhi get's injured? No true SF, No decent small ball PF fast enough to find his own space in the offensive end...
crc21209
07-09-2013, 02:44 PM
Neal is ass and I was hoping his stint as a Spur would be over, but if his salary is cheap, I won't be mad if the Spurs retain him, tbh..
He's much better than Mills or De Colo, obviously..
My concern is that Neal and Beli are the same player, tbh..chuckers that can get hot, but can hurt your team with their decisions and play atrocious defense..
OTOH, on a team like the Spurs that will continue to limit minutes, depth is a premium, and it never hurts to have too many shooters..
I'm hoping there will be a trade or move that will acquire a big SF or small PF, though..Kirilenko would be ideal, but World Peace would be fine..
This. If the Spurs bring back Neal at a good price, I'm fine with it. Better to have one too many shooters instead of none at all.....
BatManu20
07-09-2013, 02:45 PM
Spurs will be playing 7-Guard rotations all season. Can't wait! :rolleyes
Bruno
07-09-2013, 02:47 PM
A possibility is that Spurs have let people know that their intent was to keep Neal just to force a sign and trade with team(s) interested in him.
timvp
07-09-2013, 02:47 PM
Tbh, this only makes sense to me if the market for Neal unexpectedly dried up. Maybe he had something lined up, the Spurs moved on but then the suitor went elsewhere...
BatManu20
07-09-2013, 02:47 PM
Supposedly the Rockets and Bucks are both interested him as well, but only for cheap. If I'm him, I go to Houston where I know I'll get more PT than I would in SA. If there's an offer there, of course.
Chomag
07-09-2013, 02:50 PM
umm ok, Why the hell did the Spurs spend money on Marco if they still want Neal? I dont get it, unless there is a trade allready in the works.
At this rate Kawai better stay healthy and be able to play high 30+ minutes a game. He is young thankfully but he has had some trouble with his knees.
tesseractive
07-09-2013, 02:50 PM
Neither will De Colo. Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad.
I just meant that even if we basically like his game, there's no point in hanging on to Mills if we bring back Neal, because he'll never get anywhere near the court. De Colo at least has a shot at the backup point guard spot.
urunobili
07-09-2013, 03:00 PM
bye bye Nando...
spursince#99
07-09-2013, 03:02 PM
I hope he does come back. That way, De Colo can get as far away from the team as possible.
Captivus
07-09-2013, 03:02 PM
I rather have Neal than Mills, Bonner and NDC (specially since he doesnt get a lot of minutes..i wish he could play more, just to see what he has a little better, probably the Spurs know that better than I do).
Mel_13
07-09-2013, 03:03 PM
A possibility is that Spurs have let people know that their intent was to keep Neal just to force a sign and trade with team(s) interested in him.
That's entirely possible.
Tbh, this only makes sense to me if the market for Neal unexpectedly dried up. Maybe he had something lined up, the Spurs moved on but then the suitor went elsewhere...
Or there never was a market for Neal at the price he initially was asking. If he was convinced that he could get an MLE-level deal, and gave that as his asking price to the Spurs, then it's perfectly obvious why the Spurs quickly moved on.
If the reality is that Neal can't command much more than what Marco got, then he becomes a valuable asset even if it creates a logjam at the guard spots on the Spurs.
ducks
07-09-2013, 03:04 PM
are they even going to play manu before the allstar break hoping he stays healthy
Mel_13
07-09-2013, 03:04 PM
Supposedly the Rockets and Bucks are both interested him as well, but only for cheap. If I'm him, I go to Houston where I know I'll get more PT than I would in SA. If there's an offer there, of course.
The cheaper the deal, the more likely that the Spurs match.
I'd rather the Spurs keep Neal for cheap than some other conference rival pick him up (Rockets). Despite his limitations, Neal is capable of getting hot for a game or two in a playoff series. Imagine if Neal destroyed the Spurs as a Rocket or Thunder player?
TheGoldStandard
07-09-2013, 03:19 PM
If the Spurs resign Neal it confirms that the Front Office has lost there damn mind. I suspect then we'll just run PG by committee again next season and have Manu as the facilitator and that won't develop anyone yet we're still paying them as if it were necessary to keep 7 guards on a team. Then we have no true backup SF and a bunch of bigs that will never sniff the rotation outside of Tim, Tiago, Bonner, Diaw
DapDaGenius
07-09-2013, 03:21 PM
So...who the heck is leaving the team? Trade?
Keepin' it real
07-09-2013, 03:29 PM
So...who the heck is leaving the team? Trade?
No one. Defending Western Conference champs!! We stacked!!!
silverblk mystix
07-09-2013, 03:30 PM
Since Manu will be injured most of the season - it is wise to keep Neal.
Sean Cagney
07-09-2013, 03:32 PM
Suprised he didn't draw bigger interest on the market.
Im not... He is a one trick pony as most said, when that trick goes wrong he still launches ill advised shots.
TheGoldStandard
07-09-2013, 03:32 PM
No one. Defending Western Conference champs!! We stacked!!!
Can't wait to see Kawhi at the 5 with the small ball.
Do not like this move at all unless it's for a trade, 6'5 194b Belli at SF doesn't work, Green cant play SF either. Neal can't run point to save his fucking life, Cojo looks like a better backup pg.
I'm so confused. If Neal couldn't even draw interest as a FA how's he gonna be an attractive trade piece?
TheGoldStandard
07-09-2013, 03:38 PM
Do not like this move at all unless it's for a trade, 6'5 194b Belli at SF doesn't work, Green cant play SF either. Neal can't run point to save his fucking life, Cojo looks like a better backup pg.
I'm so confused. If Neal couldn't even draw interest as a FA how's he gonna be an attractive trade piece?
A lot of the Spurs moves this offseason hasn't made a lot of sense.. I like the Belli deal just because he would have replaced Neal but if you're bringing that player back then why? I don't want to get into a war win Manu/Splitter supports but the same deal with there contracts too.. Outside of Jefferson/Pekovic there wasn't a lot of bigs that were overpaid or extended to long term deals. Didn't see any other 35 year old 6th man get 7Mil a season either or not signing a true backup SF who can play defense.
Darkwaters
07-09-2013, 03:39 PM
Im not... He is a one trick pony as most said, when that trick goes wrong he still launches ill advised shots.
Have we forgotten the lesson of Jason Kapono?
Sean Cagney
07-09-2013, 03:44 PM
Do not like this move at all unless it's for a trade, 6'5 194b Belli at SF doesn't work, Green cant play SF either. Neal can't run point to save his fucking life, Cojo looks like a better backup pg.
I'm so confused. If Neal couldn't even draw interest as a FA how's he gonna be an attractive trade piece?
Your right on all accounts.
Have we forgotten the lesson of Jason Kapono?
YES.......:lmao
pad300
07-09-2013, 03:44 PM
Have we forgotten the lesson of Jason Kapono?
There was a lesson from Jason Kapono?
benefactor
07-09-2013, 03:47 PM
So if the Spurs bring Neal back they will have seven players that are a PG, SG or something in between and one SF.
Something's gotta give.
TheGoldStandard
07-09-2013, 03:48 PM
So if the Spurs bring Neal back they will have seven players that are a PG, SG or something in between and one SF.
Something's gotta give.
Not really.. We've seen this before at the Center position for the Spurs for many years, guys that weren't Centers playing the position. Pop will probably do the same at SF, just backup SF and backup PG by committee.
TD 21
07-09-2013, 03:52 PM
No, if they re-sign Neal, they'd have eight guards (Parker, Ginobili, Green, Neal, Belinelli, Joseph, De Colo, Mills).
As far as potential trades go, keep an eye on the Wizards. They're overloaded at SF and thin at guard. Specifically, they don't have a true backup SG or any firepower off the bench. Neal for Singleton makes sense on paper, but it might put them in the tax. Pawning off Ariza's expiring contract on someone would solve this issue.
Sean Cagney
07-09-2013, 03:57 PM
So if the Spurs bring Neal back they will have seven players that are a PG, SG or something in between and one SF.
Something's gotta give.
Sadly knowing POP the things that make no sense make sense to him and he will try it. I don't think they move anyone.
SundvoldGino20
07-09-2013, 04:02 PM
Decolo is playing in the summer league to be showcased perhaps?
yavozerb
07-09-2013, 04:04 PM
:lol, I think pop is planning on playing TD an Manu about 20 mpg in the coming regular season..
jsandiego
07-09-2013, 04:05 PM
I like it. Neal's a great shooter, although streaky. He's horrible on D, but will eat a lot of minutes during the regular season, and will see situational time in the playoffs. What's not to like?
Think of it in baseball terms -- they all can't be starters or closers. You need a handful of middle relievers to eat up innings and step up when the stars are injured during the season, even though they won't see much time during the playoff stretch run. Gary Neal knows his role, and will eat up minutes to help rest our Big 3(4) during B2Bs, etc., and will stay on the floor in the playoffs if we need shooting.
HI-FI
07-09-2013, 04:14 PM
I don't mind Choo Choo hanging around, good dude and didn't have a shitty finals like a certain SG on this team.
but as already said, the logjam is disconcerting, perhaps Pop is drunk out of his mind or they have something special in the works, because as it is, shit doesn't make me feel good after the Finals.
coyotes_geek
07-09-2013, 04:16 PM
Tbh, this only makes sense to me if the market for Neal unexpectedly dried up. Maybe he had something lined up, the Spurs moved on but then the suitor went elsewhere...
I hate to say it, but I can think of another scenario where retaining Neal and adding Belinelli makes sense. That being a scenario where Danny Green gets traded. The Spurs have been looking at a lot of SG's and Danny Green's stock can't possibly go any higher.
What does a package of Green & Decolo bring back?
DPG21920
07-09-2013, 04:20 PM
:lol on paper, this off season has made little sense. They have not really improved, wasted any flexibility they could have had and have a bunch of redundant players that aren't even big needs. On top of that, they paid Manu handsomely and it looks like they don't trust he will even be healthy so they want as much depth as possible to cover up for it.
That leads to a lot of unhappy players, wasted opps for growth from within and just bad business if this is what it appears to be at the moment.
benefactor
07-09-2013, 04:27 PM
:lol on paper, this off season has made little sense. They have not really improved, wasted any flexibility they could have had and have a bunch of redundant players that aren't even big needs. On top of that, they paid Manu handsomely and it looks like they don't trust he will even be healthy so they want as much depth as possible to cover up for it.
That leads to a lot of unhappy players, wasted opps for growth from within and just bad business if this is what it appears to be at the moment.
The goods.
tesseractive
07-09-2013, 04:27 PM
So if the Spurs bring Neal back they will have seven players that are a PG, SG or something in between and one SF.
Something's gotta give.
8, actually.
Parker, Ginobili, Green, Belinelli, Joseph, Neal, DeColo, Mills.
And yeah, 1 SF and 6 big men.
SenorSpur
07-09-2013, 04:28 PM
WTF? This makes absolutely no sense.
Neal, along with Bonner, are exactly the kind of one-trick pony that the Spurs need to rid this roster of. Sure, he's a tradeable asset, but can the Spurs reasonably expect to get something in return - if, in fact, that is their plan? I don't see where there is a big market for him, at this point.
tesseractive
07-09-2013, 04:29 PM
:lol on paper, this off season has made little sense. They have not really improved, wasted any flexibility they could have had and have a bunch of redundant players that aren't even big needs. On top of that, they paid Manu handsomely and it looks like they don't trust he will even be healthy so they want as much depth as possible to cover up for it.
That leads to a lot of unhappy players, wasted opps for growth from within and just bad business if this is what it appears to be at the moment.
:tu
The only way I can make sense of this offseason so far is that the FO is relentlessly pursuing a trade, and want to have plenty of guards left even after they ship multiple guys out.
benefactor
07-09-2013, 04:30 PM
8, actually.
Parker, Ginobili, Green, Belinelli, Joseph, Neal, DeColo, Mills.
And yeah, 1 SF and 6 big men.
Yeah...I noticed that after I posted it.
:lol 8 players to cover two and a half perimeter positions
Texas_Ranger
07-09-2013, 04:31 PM
After paying Manu 7M they sure have a lot of trust in him staying healthy....
look_at_g_shred
07-09-2013, 04:34 PM
Devin Harris is surprisingly a good signing by the Mavs.
objective
07-09-2013, 04:42 PM
Neal for Singleton makes sense on paper, but it might put them in the tax.
Neither team would have to worry about the tax.
T Park
07-09-2013, 04:48 PM
Devin Harris is surprisingly a good signing by the Mavs.
T Park
07-09-2013, 04:48 PM
Devin Harris is surprisingly a good signing by the Mavs.
No, no he's not.
Chinook
07-09-2013, 04:49 PM
To make the log-jam worse, each of the eight guards would have at least two years (and at least four years if Joseph is disregarded) of professional experience. No way any of them would be happy spending months in a suit. It's one thing to have young players as depth; it's another to have older vets as depth. But to have six players between the ages of 22 and 28 on the roster fighting one or two positions (backup positions, no less) is asking for disaster.
Yuixafun
07-09-2013, 04:55 PM
I wish we could fuse them together into 3 ultra combo guards...
Libri
07-09-2013, 05:17 PM
A possibility is that Spurs have let people know that their intent was to keep Neal just to force a sign and trade with team(s) interested in him.
So there is still hope for a trade. :tu
TheyCallMePro
07-09-2013, 05:18 PM
I just hope Kawhi is ready to play 48 minutes a game. Because he's the only SF we've got.
But seriously though here's what I think is going to happen: We won't resign Neal. Were going to bring up a SF from the summer league (most likely Deshaun Thomas, but it could be anyone...on any team) and he'll eat a lot of minutes and be productive for us. If we do resign Neal, then we will absolutely make a trade before the season begins to get a SF.
TDfan2007
07-09-2013, 05:19 PM
This offseason just keeps getting better...
DAF86
07-09-2013, 05:19 PM
Why the fuck did they sign Bellineli for then?
spurraider21
07-09-2013, 05:21 PM
Why the fuck did they sign Bellineli for then?
Brunodf
07-09-2013, 05:28 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOO
DPG21920
07-09-2013, 05:29 PM
Well, the Spurs are way smarter than any of us (most of the time) so if they are doing moves they surely have a plan (even if it's a long tail to their plan coming to fruition).
StoneBuddha
07-09-2013, 05:33 PM
Why the fuck did they sign Bellineli for then?
Probably as a cost effective back-up plan, but it just happened that plan A (Neal) never went away. I want Neal to stay but I'll be disappointed that we burned the MLE on Bellineli without needing to.
coyotes_geek
07-09-2013, 05:34 PM
I think the Spurs are inventing a new offense where Neal, Belinelli, Green and Bonner play 4-corners and Tony Parker is the only player allowed to set foot inside the 3 point line.
spursince#99
07-09-2013, 05:35 PM
I can't believe many of you are that gullible to actually believe we're going into the season with 1 SF. We will have 2 small forwards on the roster going into the season, and no he won't be a scrub, i.e summer league signing or D-League foddler. I can guarantee you of that.
tesseractive
07-09-2013, 05:36 PM
Well, that Simmons podcast was talking about how OKC still needs a shooter after losing Kevin Martin, and that Neal was the only shooter on the Top 20 remaining free agents... maybe we'll only sign him if we need to keep Presti's hands off of him? :lol
I think the Spurs are inventing a new offense where Neal, Belinelli, Green and Bonner play 4-corners and Tony Parker is the only player allowed to set foot inside the 3 point line.
peter holt currently working on a proposal to create a 4 point line
Hoops Czar
07-09-2013, 05:38 PM
Well, the Spurs are way smarter than any of us (most of the time) so if they are doing moves they surely have a plan (even if it's a long tail to their plan coming to fruition).
This was echoed to the fifth degree last offseason. All the moves they made were in preparation for this offseason. And wouldn't ya know it, the Spurs are no better off, doing nothing to sure up the backup pg, which was clearly an issue at times during the regular season and playoffs and they don't really have a solid backup to Duncan and Tiago. Heaven forbid anything happens to Parker or Duncan for any legnth of time.
coyotes_geek
07-09-2013, 05:39 PM
Well, that Simmons podcast was talking about how OKC still needs a shooter after losing Kevin Martin, and that Neal was the only shooter on the Top 20 remaining free agents... maybe we'll only sign him if we need to keep Presti's hands off of him? :lol
:lol
I wouldn't be surprised if there was something to that. Even if the Spurs don't keep him and just try to give OKC a helpful nudge that much closer to the luxury tax.
Well, that Simmons podcast was talking about how OKC still needs a shooter after losing Kevin Martin, and that Neal was the only shooter on the Top 20 remaining free agents... maybe we'll only sign him if we need to keep Presti's hands off of him? :lol
Actually this thought crossed my mind. Spurs scared he goes to a key rival.
coyotes_geek
07-09-2013, 05:40 PM
peter holt currently working on a proposal to create a 4 point line
:lol Reminds me of my favorite interview response of all time. Someone asks Antoine Walker why he shoots so many 3's and he responds "because there aren't any 4's".
Keepin' it real
07-09-2013, 05:42 PM
Actually this thought crossed my mind. Spurs scared he goes to a key rival.
Justifiably so. Neal is cold-blooded. He would pick up where Derek Fisher left off for OKC. He would get tons of open looks in that offense.
:lol Reminds me of my favorite interview response of all time. Someone asks Antoine Walker why he shoots so many 3's and he responds "because there aren't any 4's".
i remember that one-classic. walker was meant for the ABA.
milkyway21
07-09-2013, 05:46 PM
:stirpot: FO is cookin' something
therealtruth
07-09-2013, 05:57 PM
I don't mind Choo Choo hanging around, good dude and didn't have a shitty finals like a certain SG on this team.
He was still pretty bad defensively as usual. I am not convinced Neal's offense makes up for his bad defense.
spurraider21
07-09-2013, 06:01 PM
i hope minnesota wants a lot of small guards :lol
Rogue
07-09-2013, 06:06 PM
I also hope he signs elsewhere. He's lost popularity among spurs fans (even if he ever had any) and there's really no point in staying on the team where he'll be made an outlet of anger when the team plays bad. Dude would be a decent starting SG or 6th man for us imho, especially if he could be had for less than a MLE
Twisted_Dawg
07-09-2013, 06:10 PM
I like it. Neal's a great shooter, although streaky. He's horrible on D, but will eat a lot of minutes during the regular season, and will see situational time in the playoffs. What's not to like?
Think of it in baseball terms -- they all can't be starters or closers. You need a handful of middle relievers to eat up innings and step up when the stars are injured during the season, even though they won't see much time during the playoff stretch run. Gary Neal knows his role, and will eat up minutes to help rest our Big 3(4) during B2Bs, etc., and will stay on the floor in the playoffs if we need shooting.
Baseball? Interesting analogy. So if a star pitcher is out of control, throwing wild pitches, hitting batters, throwing a high hanging fastball that's hit out of the park, the manager pulls him, right? No hard feelings...doesn't destroy the star's confidence, there will be another game(to coin a phrase). So shouldn't the same hold true if we have a star player who is out of control, making wild passes, turning the ball over, making stupid fouls and taking bad shots?
TheGoldStandard
07-09-2013, 06:28 PM
Well, the Spurs are way smarter than any of us (most of the time) so if they are doing moves they surely have a plan (even if it's a long tail to their plan coming to fruition).
Spurs are kind of stuck between two ideas.. to either get younger/improve for the last 2 years of Tim Duncan being productive. They sign guys for 2 years but the guys they sign doesn't vastly improve there roster or the positions from last year. They keep Matt Bonner for who knows what reason, Boris Diaw does the same thing by spreading the floor and obviously if you're going to pay Splitter more money you're going to expect more production/time for him right? So it's just bogus minutes for guys to ride the bench but we waste cap money on them.
Unless this is some elaborate scheme to land a FA or a sign and trade that will improve a position then I'm all for it but the more I look at the moves it just looks like they're inclined to have a bunch of guards in case someone gets hurt.
Duncan2177
07-09-2013, 06:37 PM
If the spurs resign Neal it will suck for Joseph, Mills and De Colo, There's no point to having that many guards, A trade has to be brewing or something.
MannyIsGod
07-09-2013, 06:38 PM
Makes no sense to get Marco if youre going to keep Neal. I've tried to give them the benefit of the doubt but this is getting really fucking weird.
Sean Cagney
07-09-2013, 06:42 PM
I can't believe many of you are that gullible to actually believe we're going into the season with 1 SF. We will have 2 small forwards on the roster going into the season, and no he won't be a scrub, i.e summer league signing or D-League foddler. I can guarantee you of that.
There it is, we can all rest now!
If the spurs resign Neal it will suck for Joseph, Mills and De Colo, There's no point to having that many guards, A trade has to be brewing or something.
You would think, but knowing the FO nowadays and Pop the way he liked weird lineups it could just be what it is.
baseline bum
07-09-2013, 06:44 PM
Sign him then trade Nando, Bonner, & Joesph
Nah, keep Joseph for his defensive skill and hope Chip England can get him a jump shot.
FuzzyLumpkins
07-09-2013, 06:47 PM
The Spurs are typically hush hush about what they are doing. I am guessing that this is coming from Neal's agent and if that is the case then a canister of NaCl be taken.
playblair
07-09-2013, 06:57 PM
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DesignatedT
07-09-2013, 06:59 PM
Anybody else we can get from the Bucks in a S&T?
Marcus Bryant
07-09-2013, 07:02 PM
As maddening as he is sometimes, he did step up in the Finals. Bringing him back for a small contract isn't bad, especially if the alternative is him walking for nothing, especially to another WC contender.
And, yes, the Spurs will probably need a trade at some point to right size the roster.
If this noise is true regarding Neal, then given the other reported Spurs' activity in free agency, they will probably look to move Bonner and one of the guards for a backup 3.
Starters
1 Parker
2 Green
3 Leonard
4 Duncan
5 Splitter
Bench
1 Joseph
2 Ginobili
2 Bellinelli
3 ?
4 Diaw
4 Pendergraph
5 Baynes
Excess
1 Mills
2 Neal
2 De Colo
4 Bonner
Texas_Ranger
07-09-2013, 07:03 PM
Anybody else we can get from the Bucks in a S&T?
nope, their team pretty much sucks. No SF there.
lurker23
07-09-2013, 07:08 PM
I had assumed that someone who needs shooting would throw $3-4mil per year at Neal, and the Spurs would let him walk. However, if that price has dropped to something like $2 million per year, then there's very few good reasons not to match such an offer (with roster flexibility being the only one I can think of). With Neal being a RFA, you keep him as an asset if he gets a cheap offer sheet, and sort out the guard rotation via trade later in the year.
coyotes_geek
07-09-2013, 07:10 PM
Anybody else we can get from the Bucks in a S&T?
Not really. Wouldn't have minded Mbah-a-Moute, but the bucks already gave him away.
spurraider21
07-09-2013, 07:13 PM
did we have a backup SF in the playoffs/finals? we did ok if you ask me
then again its probably not a good idea to ride kawhi so hard
Marcus Bryant
07-09-2013, 07:15 PM
Neal and Bonner have their flaws. Still, Bonner gives you the outside shooting threat in the bigman rotation and Neal did exhibit the ability to hit some big shots on the biggest stage.
Any move of Bonner should result in the Spurs replacing his regular season 3pt production and accuracy at the backup 3.
Marcus Bryant
07-09-2013, 07:19 PM
Of course, the Spurs could wing it for the 13 to 15 minutes a night that Leonard is on the bench in the regular season with Bellinelli or Ginobili against quick 3s and Diaw against big 3s.
Still, imo you don't sign Pendergraph unless you are moving Bonner.
ace3g
07-09-2013, 07:28 PM
The Spurs need another SF so A) Kawhi can get rest and B) We can use 2 SFs in small ball.
spurraider21
07-09-2013, 07:39 PM
Neal and Bonner have their flaws. Still, Bonner gives you the outside shooting threat in the bigman rotation and Neal did exhibit the ability to hit some big shots on the biggest stage.
Any move of Bonner should result in the Spurs replacing his regular season 3pt production and accuracy at the backup 3.
I don't mind having Bonner on the roster at all. I don't like having him in the regular rotation (he is a match-up weapon, as we saw in these playoffs), and I don't like having to commit 4 million against the cap for his services. All season long last year, I was at Neal's defense, using the simple "he hits big shots" line. I lost faith in him during the playoffs, but he came up absolutely huge in game 3 and is the reason we pulled away and won. I know Green made more 3's than Neal that game, but I want to say 5 of Green's 3's came when the game was already getting out of hand, whereas Neal made all of his when we were starting to make our run
coyotes_geek
07-09-2013, 08:02 PM
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Just because I'm bored and feel like dreaming up trade scenarios............
San Antonio sends Neal (S&T), Bonner & Mills (if they want him) to Milwaukee and Decolo to Minnesota.
San Antonio receives Kirilenko (S&T) and Ridnour from Minnesota
Minnesota sends Kirilenko & Ridnour to San Antonio
Minnesota receives Decolo from San Antonio
Milwaukee sends their choice of a top-59 protected 2nd round draft pick or a $20 gift card from Target to San Antonio
Milwaukee receives Neal, Bonner and Mills (if they want him) from San Antonio
What's in it for the Spurs? They get AK, a veteran PG who can actually run an offense and clear out some roster space.
What's in it for Minnesota? They need to re-sign Pek and clear cap room for Martin. To do that they need to get rid of AK's cap hold. While they can just renounce him, agreeing to S&T him to us while swapping Ridnour for Decolo frees up an additional $2.8 mil in cap space for them to work with. It also takes $2.8 mil off of how much money they've got tied up in the PG position as they already have Rubio and Barea on their roster.
What's in it for Milwaukee? They just lost Reddick and Dunleavy so they need 3pt shooters. While they have the ability to just sign Neal outright if they want to, by playing along they get to add another shooter, or two, on reasonable 1 year contracts for nothing.
exstatic
07-09-2013, 08:04 PM
Anybody else we can get from the Bucks in a S&T?
M'Ba Amoute.
look_at_g_shred
07-09-2013, 08:05 PM
No, no he's not.
Better than Derren fucking Collison
exstatic
07-09-2013, 08:05 PM
Not really. Wouldn't have minded Mbah-a-Moute, but the bucks already gave him away.
Which trade?
look_at_g_shred
07-09-2013, 08:06 PM
Which trade?
To Sac town for two future 2nd round picks
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-09-2013, 08:06 PM
Which trade?
Kings for 2 2nd round picks
TheWriter
07-09-2013, 08:07 PM
Which trade?
To kings for two second round picks.
look_at_g_shred
07-09-2013, 08:08 PM
lol 3 replies...
Johnny RIngo
07-09-2013, 08:50 PM
Makes no sense to get Marco if youre going to keep Neal. I've tried to give them the benefit of the doubt but this is getting really fucking weird.
Marco's there because they expect Ginobili's annual injury will cause him to miss 40+ games. There's also the possibility of Manu missing all of the playoffs - it's happened too often in the past. They really should have offered Ginobili nothing above 5 mil and went after AK. All this money for a guy that puts his national team as the number 1 priority in his career is disturbing.
spursince#99
07-09-2013, 08:53 PM
Marco's there because they expect Ginobili's annual injury will cause him to miss 40+ games. There's also the possibility of Manu missing all of the playoffs - it's happened too often in the past. They really should have offered Ginobili nothing above 5 mil and went after AK. All this money for a guy that puts his national team as the number 1 priority in his career is disturbing.
And anybody who disagrees with this post needs to reevaluate their life.
Sean Cagney
07-09-2013, 09:04 PM
As maddening as he is sometimes, he did step up in the Finals. Bringing him back for a small contract isn't bad, especially if the alternative is him walking for nothing, especially to another WC contender.
And, yes, the Spurs will probably need a trade at some point to right size the roster.
If this noise is true regarding Neal, then given the other reported Spurs' activity in free agency, they will probably look to move Bonner and one of the guards for a backup 3.
Starters
1 Parker
2 Green
3 Leonard
4 Duncan
5 Splitter
Bench
1 Joseph
2 Ginobili
2 Bellinelli
3 ?
4 Diaw
4 Pendergraph
5 Baynes
Excess
1 Mills
2 Neal
2 De Colo
4 Bonner
All I see there is that ? mark in the middle. That is my main concern.
Knoxxx
07-09-2013, 10:16 PM
Just because I'm bored and feel like dreaming up trade scenarios............
San Antonio sends Neal (S&T), Bonner & Mills (if they want him) to Milwaukee and Decolo to Minnesota.
San Antonio receives Kirilenko (S&T) and Ridnour from Minnesota
Minnesota sends Kirilenko & Ridnour to San Antonio
Minnesota receives Decolo from San Antonio
Milwaukee sends their choice of a top-59 protected 2nd round draft pick or a $20 gift card from Target to San Antonio
Milwaukee receives Neal, Bonner and Mills (if they want him) from San Antonio
What's in it for the Spurs? They get AK, a veteran PG who can actually run an offense and clear out some roster space.
What's in it for Minnesota? They need to re-sign Pek and clear cap room for Martin. To do that they need to get rid of AK's cap hold. While they can just renounce him, agreeing to S&T him to us while swapping Ridnour for Decolo frees up an additional $2.8 mil in cap space for them to work with. It also takes $2.8 mil off of how much money they've got tied up in the PG position as they already have Rubio and Barea on their roster.
What's in it for Milwaukee? They just lost Reddick and Dunleavy so they need 3pt shooters. While they have the ability to just sign Neal outright if they want to, by playing along they get to add another shooter, or two, on reasonable 1 year contracts for nothing.
Now your thinking the Spurs need 1-2 year roster upgrades and are a perfect match for a salary dumping team. We need to add salary and the tradeable assets are our 3 backup pgs and Bonner Neal Blair and draft picks as a last resort.
I had assumed that someone who needs shooting would throw $3-4mil per year at Neal, and the Spurs would let him walk. However, if that price has dropped to something like $2 million per year, then there's very few good reasons not to match such an offer (with roster flexibility being the only one I can think of). With Neal being a RFA, you keep him as an asset if he gets a cheap offer sheet, and sort out the guard rotation via trade later in the year.
Plus if you really need the roster spot, Neal would be an easy salary dump down the road if you're just paying the one year qualifying offer. If we're not going to fill out the 15th roster spot otherwise, it makes sense to collect good salaries (one year deals at reasonable rates) that can be packaged for an asset. Similar to people complimenting Boston for collecting draft picks - not because they'll use them all, but because they are trade assets.
Now your thinking the Spurs need 1-2 year roster upgrades and are a perfect match for a salary dumping team. We need to add salary and the tradeable assets are our 3 backup pgs and Bonner Neal Blair and draft picks as a last resort.
On edit, couldn't have said it better myself. I wouldn't mind showcasing De Colo some in summer league and early in the season and see if someone becomes fond of him. With Bonner alone, that's $5.408mm of salary that can be turned into 150% + $100k, or $8.212mm. And I think we can throw some cash ($3mm once a year?) into a trade too if it makes swallowing that money easier. That can bring back a nice haul if a team wants to tank and doesn't want a guy under contract for 2014-15.
Keepin' it real
07-09-2013, 10:33 PM
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Gary Woeful? Who the hell is that?
coyotes_geek
07-09-2013, 10:34 PM
Gary Woeful? Who the hell is that?
Sounds like the perfect name for a Bucks beat writer. :)
Fpoonsie
07-09-2013, 11:24 PM
Sounds like the perfect name for a Bucks beat writer. :)
Boom. Bang.
Spur|n|Austin
07-09-2013, 11:51 PM
Just because I'm bored and feel like dreaming up trade scenarios............
San Antonio sends Neal (S&T), Bonner & Mills (if they want him) to Milwaukee and Decolo to Minnesota.
San Antonio receives Kirilenko (S&T) and Ridnour from Minnesota
Minnesota sends Kirilenko & Ridnour to San Antonio
Minnesota receives Decolo from San Antonio
Milwaukee sends their choice of a top-59 protected 2nd round draft pick or a $20 gift card from Target to San Antonio
Milwaukee receives Neal, Bonner and Mills (if they want him) from San Antonio
What's in it for the Spurs? They get AK, a veteran PG who can actually run an offense and clear out some roster space.
What's in it for Minnesota? They need to re-sign Pek and clear cap room for Martin. To do that they need to get rid of AK's cap hold. While they can just renounce him, agreeing to S&T him to us while swapping Ridnour for Decolo frees up an additional $2.8 mil in cap space for them to work with. It also takes $2.8 mil off of how much money they've got tied up in the PG position as they already have Rubio and Barea on their roster.
What's in it for Milwaukee? They just lost Reddick and Dunleavy so they need 3pt shooters. While they have the ability to just sign Neal outright if they want to, by playing along they get to add another shooter, or two, on reasonable 1 year contracts for nothing.
We can dream can't we?
KaiRMD1
07-10-2013, 12:06 AM
If he can learn to play defense and stop going for threes during 3 on 1 fast breaks, I will be fine with the ol' sport coming back. After all, you can repeat the past but you can change it ol' sport, you can change it.
Darkwaters
07-10-2013, 12:10 AM
There was a lesson from Jason Kapono?
Yea, it's one of the worst contracts in NBA history. All for a one-dimensional shooter.
Boddah
07-10-2013, 12:16 AM
Looks like a sign and trade deal. Just guessing on that. I love Neal! He's got one of the smoothest shots in the league. His major problem is his shot selection. Love his stroke from anywhere until he puts the ball on the floor. He's a great shooter as long as he doesn't EVER have to dribble the ball!
PlayNando
07-10-2013, 12:18 AM
Gary Neal is a chubby chucker of bullshit per par as always. He's always chucking shit up and it makes me sick. He is unintelligent, not that that is a surprise considering he is a gringo. He doesn't have the international intelligence gene.
MeloHype
07-10-2013, 12:20 AM
Gary Neal is a chubby chucker of bullshit per par as always. He's always chucking shit up and it makes me sick. He is unintelligent, not that that is a surprise considering he is a gringo. He doesn't have the international intelligence gene.
HA Ha! Funny! LOL!
phxspurfan
07-10-2013, 12:31 AM
Or maybe there is no real plan and Neal just hasn't gotten all that reported interest that was reported before DHo and J Smoove and JR Smith and All Jeff and AI were all signed. Maybe no one really wants Neal that bad and the Spurs just want to try and hang onto him and negotiate a hometown tuck in your tail and sign back with us discount.
TheGoldStandard
07-10-2013, 12:38 AM
Maybe Neal was the whipping boy after they were done paying Splitter/Manu.. "we won't overreact again"
sexinthatsx
07-10-2013, 12:54 AM
The Spurs are stocking up to specifically match-up with the Heat again; I actually want Neal to re-sign with the Spurs as he is a good shooter that the team can use when they need some quick points. But just in case you guys are wondering about the overabundance of the back court players, I think works out quite well (at least with the Heat). Think about it:
During the finals this year, the match-ups were way off and it was noticeable:
Heat: PG - Mario Chalmers, SG - Dwyane Wade, SF - Lebron, PF - Shane Battier, C - Chris Bosh
Spurs: PG - Tony Parker, SG - Danny Green, SF - Kawhi, PF - Duncan, C - Diaw / Splitter
Obviously, the glaring mismatch here is Duncan and Shane Battier, Shane was noticeable quicker to get back on offense and defense.
Now that we've added Marco Belinelli and since the Spurs are considering re-signing Neal, it helps the scoring drought that the Spurs encountered countless times during the finals series when Tony Parker and Duncan was resting. We relied on Ginobili for the scoring, but he couldn't get it done. The heat had a lot of players on the back court as well, including Mike Miller, Ray Allen, and Shane Battier (can play back court if needed to).
Assuming Heat is running the same lineup as above, the Spurs can counter with this lineup:
PG - Tony Parker / Gary Neal, SG - Ginobili / Marco Belinelli / Danny Green, SF - Kawhi, PF - Duncan can go on Center, and since Shane Battier is playing PF you can even put Danny Green, and even Ginobili at the 4 spot, C - will either be Duncan, Splitter, or Diaw.
PlayNando
07-10-2013, 01:00 AM
HA Ha! Funny! LOL!
It is the truth.
bigdog
07-10-2013, 02:00 AM
Cory Joseph's defense alone is why I wouldn't want to bring back Neal after signing Belinelli. It just doesn't make sense. Without Marco, sure, bring him back, but not anymore.
timtonymanu
07-10-2013, 02:04 AM
I'm starting to think the Spurs were resigning Neal to get into the Kirilenko deal. Now that that's out the window, I'm assuming the Spurs let Neal go now.
ffadicted
07-10-2013, 08:44 AM
Confused by this tbqh, must be for trade intents down the road imho
Drom John
07-10-2013, 09:40 AM
Chucking 3s on a 3 on 1 fastbreak is a good play.
Unguarded shot, worth 150% of a layup, with three to one rebounder advantage.
look_at_g_shred
07-10-2013, 09:54 AM
with the ol' sport coming back.
:lmao Must've really loved Gatsby huh?
Vash StampedE
07-10-2013, 10:02 AM
Gary Neal is a chubby chucker of bullshit per par as always. He's always chucking shit up and it makes me sick. He is unintelligent, not that that is a surprise considering he is a gringo. He doesn't have the international intelligence gene.
At least Neal brings something to the table unlike you, Nando.
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-10-2013, 10:04 AM
I'm starting to think the Spurs were resigning Neal to get into the Kirilenko deal. Now that that's out the window, I'm assuming the Spurs let Neal go now.
No, I think Neal was more for a play for Ellis. Its awful quiet from the Bucks and Atl fronts on a S&T for Teague/Jennings or Ellis right now. Maybe these teams are waiting for the Spurs to finalize the trade for Kirilenko.
The two players I wanted the Spurs to get the most this offseason was Kirilenko and Ellis. That may very well happen at this point.
BackHome
07-10-2013, 10:34 AM
I like Neal but come on having no backup PG "Vet
and going with Neal, Manu, CoJo,Mills, Ben, Nando way to many SG.
Interrohater
07-10-2013, 10:43 AM
Chucking 3s on a 3 on 1 fastbreak is a good play.
Unguarded shot, worth 150% of a layup, with three to one rebounder advantage.
:tu I don't see why there's confusion about this. Especially if your 3 point shooter is deadly when open.
BackHome
07-10-2013, 10:48 AM
If you got three against one you sure as hell better hit the 3 ball shot.
PlayNando
07-10-2013, 12:33 PM
At least Neal brings something to the table unlike you, Nando.
Nando = Future All-Star........
Neal = Future Scrub.............
Let's also not forget what Neal did to that poor girl back in the day. :(
ducks
07-10-2013, 12:34 PM
brewer get 5 million a year what is neal worth
Marc Stein@ESPNSteinLine .
Hearing: Wolves closing in on three-year deal with coveted swingman Corey Brewer in $15 million range
PlayNando
07-10-2013, 12:43 PM
Gary Neal = Domestic ignorance....
Nando = International intelligence...
TD 21
07-10-2013, 04:19 PM
Neither team would have to worry about the tax.
Yeah, the Wizards would. They're at just over $57M and this is before Webster, Porter, Maynor, Temple and Rice (non guaranteed), are factored in. Once they are and you factor in what Neal is likely to get, they'd be close. They could probably make it work if they wanted Neal badly enough, though.
objective
07-10-2013, 04:29 PM
meh, maybe. If they're giving back back Singleton, they'd still have a cushion of giving Neal a Belinelli like deal and be fine.
therealtruth
07-10-2013, 05:13 PM
:tu I don't see why there's confusion about this. Especially if your 3 point shooter is deadly when open.
It's a pretty good chance to get open 3's if used selectively.
Embedded
07-10-2013, 10:31 PM
I want to see what Nando de Colo can do with a full summer to work on his game.
Sean Cagney
07-10-2013, 10:39 PM
Cory Joseph's defense alone is why I wouldn't want to bring back Neal after signing Belinelli. It just doesn't make sense. Without Marco, sure, bring him back, but not anymore.
I agree with you.
Nando = Future All-Star........
Neal = Future Scrub.............
Let's also not forget what Neal did to that poor girl back in the day. :(
Nando is not sniffing an all star game, period.
PlayNando
07-10-2013, 10:47 PM
Nando is not sniffing an all star game, period.
Nando excels under pressure. Nando is an All-Star performer...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zB1cJRk-k3o
Sean Cagney
07-10-2013, 10:48 PM
Nando excels under pressure. Nando is an All-Star performer...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zB1cJRk-k3o
I want NBA highlights, forget any other crap. He didn't show me much this year.
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 12:15 AM
I want NBA highlights, forget any other crap. He didn't show me much this year.
Typical 'Murican who thinks the world revolves around the NBA. :lol
dallasmaverickslose
07-11-2013, 12:17 AM
Typical 'Murican who thinks the world revolves around the NBA. :lol
Right! Mexico!
spursmvp
07-11-2013, 12:19 AM
Typical 'Murican who thinks the world revolves around the NBA. :lol
You're posting on the message board of an nba team...
TheGoldStandard
07-11-2013, 12:20 AM
Nando needs a trade.
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 12:20 AM
Right! Mexico!
Europe is soon to be the king of the basketball world. Then Africa..........
You're posting on the message board of an nba team...
You mean a team made up of a majority of international players?
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 12:20 AM
Nando needs a trade.
Nando needs to be promoted to starting point guard.
Trade Parker for cash........ Acquire AK-47 and Kirk Hinrich.......
TheGoldStandard
07-11-2013, 12:21 AM
Nando needs to be promoted to starting point guard.
Trade Parker for cash........ Acquire AK-47 and Kirk Hinrich.......
No, he needs to go to a team that will use him.
Sean Cagney
07-11-2013, 12:25 AM
Europe is soon to be the king of the basketball world. Then Africa..........
You mean a team made up of a majority of international players?
Pussies, the best still are from the States... Fact. Take them highlights to your pussy league.
TXstbobcat
07-11-2013, 12:33 AM
Nando needs to be promoted to starting point guard.
Trade Parker for cash........ Acquire AK-47 and Kirk Hinrich.......
Starting point guard????? Nando is 3rd string.
dallasmaverickslose
07-11-2013, 12:37 AM
Europe is soon to be the king of the basketball world. Then Africa..........
You mean a team made up of a majority of international players?
I've always viewed the Middle East as a potential basketball powerhouse. Instead of fighting each other every other month, why can't these Middle Eastern countries settle their differences on the court?
Sean Cagney
07-11-2013, 12:37 AM
Starting point guard????? Nando is 3rd string.
He is average as shit, lol at PLAYBLAIR and Nando, two bums who could be gone and I would not care.
I've always viewed the Middle East as a potential basketball powerhouse. Instead of fighting each other every other month, why can't these Middle Eastern countries settle their differences on the court?
Hamed Haddadi turned out to be quite the stud player
tesseractive
07-11-2013, 12:44 AM
Europe is soon to be the king of the basketball world. Then Africa..........
You mean a team made up of a majority of international players?
Don't forget central Asia. The league is going to be taken over by Kyrgyzstani and Tajik players any day now. And don't sleep on the Uzbeks, either.
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 12:44 AM
No, he needs to go to a team that will use him.
That team plays in the AT&T Center........
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 12:44 AM
Pussies, the best still are from the States... Fact. Take them highlights to your pussy league.
The USA will not win in the 2016 Summer Olympics Gold Medal. MARK. MY. WORDS.
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 12:45 AM
Starting point guard????? Nando is 3rd string.
That's what the man wants you to think. Parker should be traded for cash so Nando can start (as he always should have) and we can acquire some more talent.
Leetonidas
07-11-2013, 12:45 AM
shut the fuck up troll, your schtick blows. nando sucks a fat baguette
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 12:45 AM
I've always viewed the Middle East as a potential basketball powerhouse. Instead of fighting each other every other month, why can't these Middle Eastern countries settle their differences on the court?
Quite possibly true. The entire world will rise up soon. The USA will fade into irrelevancy as they already are in football (er... soccer for you gringos).
TheGoldStandard
07-11-2013, 12:48 AM
I've always viewed the Middle East as a potential basketball powerhouse. Instead of fighting each other every other month, why can't these Middle Eastern countries settle their differences on the court?
Yes, The United States is about to fall into a world of hurt from all these countries concealing there true powerful basketball teams.
TXstbobcat
07-11-2013, 12:52 AM
That's what the man wants you to think. Parker should be traded for cash so Nando can start (as he always should have) and we can acquire some more talent.
Better idea for you. How about we keep Parker (top 10 player in the nba) and we trade Nando.
Kool Bob Love
07-11-2013, 12:55 AM
The USA will not win in the 2016 Summer Olympics Gold Medal. MARK. MY. WORDS.
http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/LEBRON-DURANT-STAR.gif
http://throwtheflagblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Lebron-Dancing.gif
And I fucking hate lebron too.:depressed
Sean Cagney
07-11-2013, 12:56 AM
Better idea for you. How about we keep Parker (top 10 player in the nba) and we trade Nando.
I agree, get rid of that useless bum. He sucks IMO, very limited and CJ took his backup spot and ran with it. :lol
Leetonidas
07-11-2013, 12:57 AM
http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/LEBRON-DURANT-STAR.gif
http://throwtheflagblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Lebron-Dancing.gif
And I fucking hate lebron too.:depressed
Kevin love doesn't even care :lol
Kool Bob Love
07-11-2013, 12:58 AM
Quite possibly true. The entire world will rise up soon. The USA will fade into irrelevancy as they already are in football (er... soccer for you gringos).
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1263862/lebronpassoly.gif
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/501/944/DWill_toLeBron_Oop_original.gif?1343573834
Kool Bob Love
07-11-2013, 01:00 AM
Europe is soon to be the king of the basketball world. Then Africa..........
You mean a team made up of a majority of international players?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH9KE8FSmig
tesseractive
07-11-2013, 01:24 AM
Quite possibly true. The entire world will rise up soon. The USA will fade into irrelevancy as they already are in football (er... soccer for you gringos).
Of course we're irrelevant in soccer. Most every country in the world has this huge thing for soccer, while in the US it ranks in importance somewhere between figure skating and rhythmic gymnastics.
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 01:29 AM
Better idea for you. How about we keep Parker (top 10 player in the nba) and we trade Nando.
How about not?
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 01:30 AM
http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/LEBRON-DURANT-STAR.gif
http://throwtheflagblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Lebron-Dancing.gif
And I fucking hate lebron too.:depressed
LOL, the USA almost lost to Spain, tbh... It's just a matter of time........
When Manu gang raped the USA squad in 2004, it was only the beginning of the era of international supremacy..........
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 01:30 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1263862/lebronpassoly.gif
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/501/944/DWill_toLeBron_Oop_original.gif?1343573834
Monkeyballing. :lol
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 01:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH9KE8FSmig
France is far from the best basketball-playing country in Europe, tbh.
PlayNando
07-11-2013, 01:32 AM
Of course we're irrelevant in soccer. Most every country in the world has this huge thing for soccer, while in the US it ranks in importance somewhere between figure skating and rhythmic gymnastics.
Gringos can't handle intelligent sports like football and instead watch abominations on your TV screens like baseball and gringo football. Pathetic, tbh.
spurraider21
07-11-2013, 02:18 AM
have there been any updates with this story at all?
playblair
07-11-2013, 02:21 PM
have there been any updates with this story at all?
hmmmm...............
355356752058908673
tesseractive
07-11-2013, 02:25 PM
hmmmm...............
355356752058908673
Jason Richardson, here we come!
Bruno
07-12-2013, 02:29 AM
With Spurs having re-signed all their main player, Kirilenko signed by the Nets and Spurs having only min contracts to offer at free agents, Neal's situation is to me the most intriguing part left of this offseason.
With Ginobili and Belinelli signed, Neal would the 8th guard of the team. It would be logical to have him not back. However, Spurs haven't withdraw their qualifying offer to him and RC has said that they were interested in bringing him back if he wasn't too expensive.
I can see two explanations behind that:
First, Spurs are genuinely interested in bringing back Neal despite the logjam of guards.
Second, Spurs are bluffing and are hoping to get a little something for Neal through a S&T.
Baseline
07-12-2013, 02:36 AM
have there been any updates with this story at all? Yes, Manu went out drinking with RC, and wound up with 14 million dollars in his pocket. Meanwhile, the Spurs let Kirilenko and possibly others slip through their fingers. And Kirilenko ends up signing with yhe Nets for less than half of Manu's annual salary.
lurker23
07-12-2013, 02:56 AM
I can see two explanations behind that:
First, Spurs are genuinely interested in bringing back Neal despite the logjam of guards.
Second, Spurs are bluffing and are hoping to get a little something for Neal through a S&T.
Personally, I think the real answer is option number three: as a team that has relatively few routes to obtain assets, a RFA that they can retain is a nice luxury. If they can keep Neal for a reasonable price, they can decide who they want to keep/who has the most value later in the season, and trade 1-3 of their 8 guards for a position of need, perhaps as late as the trade deadline.
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