Yasiin Bey(aka rapper Mos Def) undergoes guantanamo bay force feeding procedure

[Trill Clinton]

As Ramadan begins, more than 100 hunger-strikers in Guantánamo Bay continue their protest. More than 40 of them are being force-fed. A leaked document sets out the military instructions, or standard operating procedure, for force-feeding detainees. In this four-minute film made by Human Rights organisation Reprieve and Bafta award-winning director Asif Kapadia, US actor and rapper Yasiin Bey (formerly known as Mos Def), experiences the procedure


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6ACE-BBPRs&feature=player_embedded

[Fabbs]

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[Trill Clinton]

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yo, chill and stick to the thread topic or things can get as ugly as your prom date.

[Fabbs]

Topic is yet another rap dumbf**k seeking attention.

[spursncowboys]

I saw a youtube video of a 15 year old doing the same thing...but not crying.

[spursncowboys]

How is this political?

[AntiChrist]

Should I care about this?

[Trill Clinton]

How is this political?

i know i'm not the most popular guy around these parts but stop it, fam. guantanamo bay protests are very political.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/05/01/president-obama-sides-with-his-guantanamo-bay-protesters/

[Trill Clinton]

Should I care about this?

that's up to you, doggie. i can't tell you what to and what not to care about, unless you want me to.

[mrsmaalox]

Eh, routine medical procedure. I've done hundreds of those things on males and females between the ages newborn and 90; it's definitely not a pleasant experience but Mr Bey brought more drama than any 8yr old or menopausal female I've ever seen. As far as the politics go, I think it's a ridiculous waste of resources----provide the meals, if they choose not to eat that's up to them and then just document it.

[boutons_deux]

if they choose not to eat that's up to them

Their lives and minds are destroyed, so starving themselves to death like the IRA prisoners in 1981 is very probable, with the inevitable, guaranteed world-wide hostility to USA, which is why Barry won't stop the gavage.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How is this political?

How is military procedure to force feed inmates at Guantanamo political?

Really?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As an aside, I really liked his work with Kwali.

[cheguevara]

Eh, routine medical procedure. I've done hundreds of those things on males and females between the ages newborn and 90; it's definitely not a pleasant experience but Mr Bey brought more drama than any 8yr old or menopausal female I've ever seen. As far as the politics go, I think it's a ridiculous waste of resources----provide the meals, if they choose not to eat that's up to them and then just document it.

you have force fed hundreds of individuals? :lol right

[cheguevara]

props to Mos Def. It definitely is torture.

Those poor souls in Guantanamo have chosen to die rather than stay at that Torture Prison, but the government won't even allow them the right to die peacefully.

I had a similar procedure done (insertion of a tube) but they put me to sleep to install it. They had to drain some fluid. So they drained some fluid a few times and eventually pulled the tube out. It was a horrible feeling to have the tube pulled so I can imagine having that tube inserted by force must be 10000x more painful.

It's torture. plain and simple.

[mrsmaalox]

you have force fed hundreds of individuals? :lol right

Feeding is not the only indication for a nasogastric tube.

[cheguevara]

Feeding is not the only indication for a nasogastric tube.

I am pretty sure you did not insert it on a person against their will. Just a wild guess.

Try to imagine doing it to someone by force and against their will. Yah, it would probably be most painful feeling anyone ever feel

[AntiChrist]

I am pretty sure you did not insert it on a person against their will. Just a wild guess.

Try to imagine doing it to someone by force and against their will. Yah, it would probably be most painful feeling anyone ever feel


Im gonna take a wild guess and say she knows more about this than you do.

[cheguevara]

Im gonna take a wild guess and say she knows more about this than you do.

I was subjected to similar procedure. I did have help of anesthesia, but I still felt when tube was being pulled. Keep in mind the tube was smaller than that one used for Force Feeding

so no, I am going to say I know more about this.

[mrsmaalox]

I am pretty sure you did not insert it on a person against their will. Just a wild guess.

Try to imagine doing it to someone by force and against their will. Yah, it would probably be most painful feeling anyone ever feel

You guessed wrong.

[cheguevara]

You guessed wrong.

and I'm sure in those cases it was very painful to the subjects. but of course you will say they enjoyed it :lmao

[spursncowboys]

i know i'm not the most popular guy around these parts but stop it, fam. guantanamo bay protests are very political.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/05/01/president-obama-sides-with-his-guantanamo-bay-protesters/

It's standard policy that we do not allow enemy detainees, POW, or prisoners to commit suicide. Not being an ass. But honestly what is the problem? Should we allow them to kill themselves?

[spursncowboys]

i know i'm not the most popular guy around these parts but stop it, fam. guantanamo bay protests are very political.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/05/01/president-obama-sides-with-his-guantanamo-bay-protesters/

I have no problem with your posts btw. Even if I disagree.

[CuckingFunt]

I agree with the politics, but find the histrionics unfortunate.

[Trill Clinton]

wait, so ya'll think the aggressive force feeding methods of innocent prisoners at guantamo is routine?!?http://i40.tinypic.com/oic29t.png

strapping innocent prisoners against their will and shoving a tube full of goo down their nostrils is routine? wowhttp://i43.tinypic.com/2dbtchf.png

[Trill Clinton]

It's standard policy that we do not allow enemy detainees, POW, or prisoners to commit suicide. Not being an ass. But honestly what is the problem? Should we allow them to kill themselves?

i think they should be set free and the prison should be shut down so suicide isn't even an option.


I have no problem with your posts btw. Even if I disagree.

its all good, fam. see ya at scotts.

[mrsmaalox]

and I'm sure in those cases it was very painful to the subjects. but of course you will say they enjoyed it :lmao



Eh, routine medical procedure. I've done hundreds of those things on males and females between the ages newborn and 90; it's definitely not a pleasant experience but Mr Bey brought more drama than any 8yr old or menopausal female I've ever seen. As far as the politics go, I think it's a ridiculous waste of resources----provide the meals, if they choose not to eat that's up to them and then just document it.

[mrsmaalox]

wait, so ya'll think the aggressive force feeding methods of innocent prisoners at guantamo is routine?!?http://i40.tinypic.com/oic29t.png

strapping innocent prisoners against their will and shoving a tube full of goo down their nostrils is routine? wowhttp://i43.tinypic.com/2dbtchf.png

Nobody has claimed that in this thread.

[Trill Clinton]

Nobody has claimed that in this thread.


Eh, routine medical procedure.

nothing routine about whats going on in that prison

[mrsmaalox]

nothing routine about whats going on in that prison

Read my comment again. I said nasogastric tubes are routine medical procedures---nowhere did I say force feeding with NG tubes is routine at that or any prison.

[Trill Clinton]

Read my comment again. I said nasogastric tubes are routine medical procedures---nowhere did I say force feeding with NG tubes is routine at that or any prison.

i read it and you said "eh, routine medical procedure...." that can easily be taken as you saying what the prisoners go through and what mr. bey went through was just a typical procedure and there was nothing wrong with it. not a big deal and now that you cleared that up i now understand what you were trying to say.

[mrsmaalox]

i read it and you said "eh, routine medical procedure...." that can easily be taken as you saying what the prisoners go through and what mr. bey went through was just a typical procedure and there was nothing wrong with it. not a big deal and now that you cleared that up i now understand what you were trying to say.

Ah Trill, I also mentioned "newborns thru 90 yr olds" "8 yr olds" and "menopausal women" in that same comment----pretty obvious I wasn't talking about Guantanamo prisoners ;)

[mrsmaalox]

Sorry, for some reason I quoted myself

[cheguevara]

:lmao at the ppl here saying because it don't hurt that much its not a big deal. it's still torture and Human Rights agrees.

I heard rape don't hurt that much either, why is it a crime?


:lmao

[spursncowboys]

i think they should be set free and the prison should be shut down so suicide isn't even an option.


Set free...Where? Just open the gates and let them go?

[spursncowboys]

:lmao at the ppl here saying because it don't hurt that much its not a big deal. it's still torture and Human Rights agrees.

I heard rape don't hurt that much either, why is it a crime?


:lmao
The definition of torture is losing its meaning with nonsense like this.

[cheguevara]

The definition of torture is losing its meaning with nonsense like this.

:rolleyes

150 Doctors Condemn Force-Feeding at Guantánamo

"Below is the letter to the Lancet, and, on publication, its first listed signatory, Dr. Frank Arnold, gave the BBC an even more sharply worded condemnation of the force-feeding at Guantánamo, describing it as torture. He said, “The UN and numerous other authoritative bodies have quite explicitly stated that the force-feeding that goes on in Guantánamo is torture. Forcing someone to accept treatment which they’re competent to refuse is an assault.” - See more at: http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2013/06/22/150-doctors-condemn-force-feeding-at-guantanamo-ahmed-belbacha-describes-it-as-a-painful-ordeal/#sthash.B2NlmSoz.dpuf"

http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2013/06/22/150-doctors-condemn-force-feeding-at-guantanamo-ahmed-belbacha-describes-it-as-a-painful-ordeal/

[spursncowboys]

cheguevara: what is your solution, aside from opening the gates? Let them starve?

[cheguevara]

cheguevara: what is your solution, aside from opening the gates? Let them starve?

The only reason US is force feeding these sobs is to avoid bad publicity on their torture fortess called Guantanamo. That is despicable, to torture humans daily just to avoid bad publicity.

They cannot let them go because these humans are so mentally damaged, it would cause chaos for the world to learn how they got that way. They also cannot prosecute them because there is no evidence. They are innocent of crimes.

Yes the 1st step in the right direction is to let them starve in peace.

[Trill Clinton]

Set free...Where? Just open the gates and let them go?


most of them have been cleared to be released so let them go back to their countries. before that, they need to be sent to a proper hospital to treat their physical and mental ailments.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao at the ppl here saying because it don't hurt that much its not a big deal. it's still torture and Human Rights agrees.

I heard rape don't hurt that much either, why is it a crime?


:lmao

:lol

Rape isn't a pleasant experience for sure, but women who get all emotional about it are clearly just being drama queens.

[spursncowboys]

most of them have been cleared to be released so let them go back to their countries. before that, they need to be sent to a proper hospital to treat their physical and mental ailments.Most of them have no country to go back to. If we do give them back to some, they will be tortured and probably killed. If they weren't crimes against US, we probably would give them political asylum like we did with the bay of pigs refugees. But there is no way a politician could do that and keep their job. So ultimately we would give them over to be tortured and killed. Is that ok with you?