Just how bad is Jeff McDonald?

[apalisoc_9]

Is it even worth it to follow this guy or would i better of getting my info at spustalk.com.

:bang

[ace3g]

I really only use EN guys for pre/post game quotes. They don't take risks and make too many assumptions with their reporting.

[TXstbobcat]

I follow McDonalld and Monroe on twitter because I like that they tweet there EN articles out to read but I like this site for news and rumors.

[TXstbobcat]

It is kind of entertaining to see McDonald go at it with the sarcasm with his twitter followers.

[ducks]

he is bad he told one person google was his friend go find out about the spurs player they signed

[benefactor]

He's fucking awful and has been as long as I can remember. Back when the whole articles from EN used to get posted here(:lol intellectual property) they would be full of all kinds of inaccuracies that the ST community would laugh at and correct. He's probably one of the laziest journalists in the country. He just says shit without doing a bit of research.

Tbh, I haven't read anything from him in a couple of years. I'm guessing not much has changed since the OP is saying he is still garbage.

[yavozerb]

Its all Mcdonalds fault we didnt get AK..WTF?

[DesignatedT]

bad

[Johnsyounger]

Putrid

[Kool Bob Love]

He is Bad, real bad, Michael Jackson Now ST mad, real mad, Joe Jackson.

[FireMicoHalili]

haha he's going to read this and probably post something he thinks is funny but isnt. His humor sucks it's bordering on rude.

[lmbebo]

Not huge fan of him or McCarney.

side topic: how does everyone follow for there spurs related needs?

[spurraider21]

how does everyone follow for there spurs related needs?
wait for ace3g to post

[DesignatedT]

According to Mike Monroe, he's uhh like uhh real uhhh extra uhhh bad.

[lmbebo]

ace3g, you on twitter? :toast

[Libri]

EN hasn't recovered since Ludden left.

[SA210]

I would love that trash excuse no balls having wanna be of a writer to read this thread to see how badly people know he sucks. He probably already knows, but I would still love for him to read it.

[SenorSpur]

He bad. We Spurs fan were all spoiled by Johnny Ludden, which only highlights just how bad McDonald really is.

[benefactor]

Not huge fan of him or McCarney.

side topic: how does everyone follow for there spurs related needs? @.Sam_amick, @ESPNSteinLine and @WojYahooNBA are all good solid resources. Also, @.HoopsRumors retweets almost all the news that comes across the wire.

[ace3g]

‏@SportandoBasket (https://twitter.com/SportandoBasket) they are good for overseas news as well as NBA news.


Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
= Woj Jr.




(http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)

[Leetonidas]

I miss Ludden :depressed

[purist]

Wannabes calling out the guy who actually gets paid to write about spurs. Paycheck envy?

[ace3g]

I miss Ludden :depressed


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIA-nHICa4w

[T Park]

Wannabes calling out the guy who actually gets paid to write about spurs. Paycheck envy?


No question. People that personally insult him like shitface SA210 who has zero life other than to trash coaches and and beat writers are the worst.

However, they get the last laugh in that them along with other beat writers bloggers who laugh at the people here like SA210.

[houston spurs fan]

He is Bad, real bad, Michael Jackson Now ST mad, real mad, Joe Jackson.
Wow, a quote from a Keri Hilson song. Jesus.

[tmtcsc]

According to Mike Monroe, he's uhh like uhh real uhhh extra uhhh bad.

Too funny. Mike Monroe is a stuttering, mumbling hack. Just awful. He throws out terrible half statement, half question like sentences that don't make sense or are super obvious. Just garbage.

Those dudes have no sources and don't find out shit regarding the team until its posted on here. McDonald has been a huge disappointment compared to Ludden.

[PlayNando]

Is it even worth it to follow this guy or would i better of getting my info at spustalk.com.

:bang
Is that a pornography website or something?

[jestersmash]

Pretty bad. My biggest gripe with McDonald is that he asks some of the most psychologically debilitating interview questions during shootaround or practice. If Manu's been struggling with his shot, he'll constantly bring it up even though Manu's mannerisms and tone have made it abundantly clear that he doesn't like hearing about it.

If Danny Green is on a shooting streak, he'll stupidly ask "So over the past 3 playoff games you're shooting 43.2% from 3. Why have you been so efficient and what do you need to do to continue shooting that efficiently?"

If you had an ounce of emotional I.Q., you'd know that Danny Green hates talking about his shooting efficiencies. He's very susceptible to shooting droughts if he ever feels like the team is banking on him hitting his 3 point shots. He'll always try to defer responsibility by saying that he focuses on defense and that anything he gives on offense is a bonus. Yeah, while technically this isn't true, you don't need to bring it up when you know that Danny is sensitive to this sort of thing.

[dbestpro]

The Sheen guy on 760 is a hoot. Two days ago he was talking on the radio on how Pendergraph was signed to play SF and replaced McGrady. Next, he went on talking about the MLE (as if he will still had the full MLE), and how we should use it to sign Bynum. You know, the guy who was just offered 24 mil for two years.

I mean, this guy actually gets paid to know this stuff for a living. Imagine if your doctor or lawyer knew their stuff in similar fashion.

[tmtcsc]

Is that a pornography website or something?

Spurscock.com

[hooperflash]

ace3g, you on twitter? :toast

Been following him for a while, just don't expect a follow back nor a response... The man needs a twitter verification flower, tbh.

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[Budkin]

The best Spurs news source was duncan228. WTF happened to her?

[Darius McCrary]

McDonald is one of the most smug condescending people I've ever followed on twit.

[Budkin]

Spurscock.com

:lmao That would be amusing.

[CGD]

Don't mind him so much, but I feel he never breaks anything. At best he expounds on info which has been released already. Woj is probably a better source for spurs info than McDonald, but mcdoland has decent follow up.

[TheGoldStandard]

Spurscock.com

That site leaked the Pop & Bonner video

[jestersmash]

The best Spurs news source was duncan228. WTF happened to her?

A lot of people made fun of her because 99% of her posts were just copy/pasting articles from the usual spurs/sports news sites, so she left.

I personally found her posts to be useful. Yeah, she might be copy/pasting articles, but it was convenient to have them all in one nice little setting (spurstalk) as opposed to having to check the sites myself (or google) for new articles.

[jdaveah]

The Sheen guy on 760 is a hoot. Two days ago he was talking on the radio on how Pendergraph was signed to play SF and replaced McGrady. Next, he went on talking about the MLE (as if he will still had the full MLE), and how we should use it to sign Bynum. You know, the guy who was just offered 24 mil for two years.

I mean, this guy actually gets paid to know this stuff for a living. Imagine if your doctor or lawyer knew their stuff in similar fashion.

Agreed. Sheen is awful. Made the switch to 1250 and I like their hard line show even though the guys on there aren't from SA.

[ducks]

A lot of people made fun of her because 99% of her posts were just copy/pasting articles from the usual spurs/sports news sites, so she left.

I personally found her posts to be useful. Yeah, she might be copy/pasting articles, but it was convenient to have them all in one nice little setting (spurstalk) as opposed to having to check the sites myself (or google) for new articles.

yEAH I do not know why people do that
idiots

[PlayNando]

Spurscock.com
Too bad we have so many crackers on this team. Not a lot of biggies to choose from, tbh...

[phxspurfan]

A lot of people made fun of her because 99% of her posts were just copy/pasting articles from the usual spurs/sports news sites, so she left.

I personally found her posts to be useful. Yeah, she might be copy/pasting articles, but it was convenient to have them all in one nice little setting (spurstalk) as opposed to having to check the sites myself (or google) for new articles.

She was also the reason ST almost got sued by E-N for plagiarism

[Taking it to the Hole]

EN hasn't recovered since Ludden left.

I loved Ludden's writing and insight. He knew the trade and talked to people in the industry. He had reputable sources. Now, we are in dark times.

[jestersmash]

She was also the reason ST almost got sued by E-N for plagiarism

Yeah that's true.

Also (to elaborate on my previous post) I think another reason why she was criticized was because she got All Spurstalk 1st team poster or something silly like that, and a lot of people thought that she should not get such an award because 99% of her posts were copy/paste.

I'm surprised people cared that much about it in the first place. It's just a harmless forum award.

[spursncowboys]

Is it even worth it to follow this guy or would i better of getting my info at spustalk.com.

:bang
He's def not a homer. You have to respect that.

[spursncowboys]

@.Sam_amick, @ESPNSteinLine and @WojYahooNBA are all good solid resources. Also, @.HoopsRumors retweets almost all the news that comes across the wire.
absolute best in the biz! Also MichelleDBeadle is a Spurs fan and usually is making fun of LBJ and Heat fans.

[tesseractive]

Is that a pornography website or something?

No, I think you're thinking of the Filipino coach fetishists at SpoStalk.com .

[SA210]

I'm a fat lonely piece of shit with no real friends so I spend my time on Twitter and Facebook kissing the sorry asses of Spurs beat writers who suck as much as I do so that I can feel accepted. I also quit on the Spurs and even made a thread about my disloyalty to the org I now pretend to defend. I'd love Mcdonald's cock for breakfast if I didn't already have Pop's in my mouth.

[HI-FI]

^ :lol damn.

[HarlemHeat37]

:wow:lmao..

[MaNu4Tres]

He can be a pretty annoying follow, tbh.

He mostly only responds to idiots asking dumb questions to make him look like a bright basketball mind. (And he can be condescending to a degree to those asking those questions.)

And when you correct him or if you're right about something-- he will either not respond, or respond in an argumentative manner instead of owning up to his lack of bball intellect.

[MaNu4Tres]

Monroe and McCarney >>>> McDonald x 1000 tbh

[MannyIsGod]

He can be a pretty annoying follow, tbh.

He mostly only responds to idiots asking dumb questions to make him look like a bright basketball mind. (And he can be condescending to a degree to those asking those questions.)

And when you correct him or if you're right about something-- he will either not respond, or respond in an argumentative manner instead of owning up to his lack of bball intellect.

I unfollowed him. Was just pointless.

[Bill_Brasky]

Never breaks anything. And it's what he gets PAID to do. Talk about being shitty at your job.

[weeks]

his questions always annoy me.

i guess the lack of forthrightness on the part of the reporters is annoying. grow some balls, man. so what if pop gives you the death stare. ask a question and get it out without all the wishy washy hemming and hawing!

[MoSpur]

No question. People that personally insult him like shitface SA210 who has zero life other than to trash coaches and and beat writers are the worst.

However, they get the last laugh in that them along with other beat writers bloggers who laugh at the people here like SA210.

That's pretty ironic. You're always bashing people's opinions on here.

[objective]

He is pretty bad.

I think the reason he is so bad rather than just mediocre or bland is that he puts so much energy into terrible lame attempts to be funny. He tries harder at being a homeless man's Bill Simmons by interjecting un-clever one-liners in his stories than ever asking questions that advance stories.

It's a part of everything he does. His garbage on twitter. And his empty appearances on the express news Spurs podcast, where he was so useless that Monroe contributed more to the show with his incoherent stories of old-time Spurs to close the shows.

His disinterest in actual reporting comes through in his work.

[T_MONEY_TX]

Who?

[xmas1997]

How bad is he? The worst, and I bet he knows it too!

[Nathan Explosion]

Pretty bad. My biggest gripe with McDonald is that he asks some of the most psychologically debilitating interview questions during shootaround or practice. If Manu's been struggling with his shot, he'll constantly bring it up even though Manu's mannerisms and tone have made it abundantly clear that he doesn't like hearing about it.

If Danny Green is on a shooting streak, he'll stupidly ask "So over the past 3 playoff games you're shooting 43.2% from 3. Why have you been so efficient and what do you need to do to continue shooting that efficiently?"

If you had an ounce of emotional I.Q., you'd know that Danny Green hates talking about his shooting efficiencies. He's very susceptible to shooting droughts if he ever feels like the team is banking on him hitting his 3 point shots. He'll always try to defer responsibility by saying that he focuses on defense and that anything he gives on offense is a bonus. Yeah, while technically this isn't true, you don't need to bring it up when you know that Danny is sensitive to this sort of thing.

As a reporter, it's not his job to worry about whether Gino wants to talk about his struggles, or whether Danny Green likes talking about his hot shooting. His job is to get the story and the quotes. Emotional I.Q. should never come into play. Your biggest gripe with the guy is that he's doing his job.

[DPG21920]

People's gripe isn't that he's doing his job; it's that he is terrible at it.

[Dex]

Jeff McDonald is the Richard Jefferson of sports journalism.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Zach Lowe or Jeff McDonald?

Who do you guys prefer?

[tmtcsc]

Zach Lowe or Jeff McDonald?

Who do you guys prefer?

http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/4/0/401dc_ORIG-facepalm_gif.gif

[Keepin' it real]

Just how bad is Jeff McDonald?

Just how bad are you at your job? I hope you have a job where people publicly criticize you for (perceived) poor performance.

His job is not to appease Spurs fanatics. That's what sites like this are for. His job is to provide Spurs-related content for the average San Antonio citizen and Spurs fan, who likely has no idea who people like Jeff Pendergrass, Mickael Gelabale, and Vitor Faverani are.

McDonald is not a multi-million dollar coach or player, he's just a working stiff like you and the rest of us. Cut him some slack.

[dbestpro]

Just how bad are you at your job? I hope you have a job where people publicly criticize you for (perceived) poor performance.

His job is not to appease Spurs fanatics. That's what sites like this are for. His job is to provide Spurs-related content for the average San Antonio citizen and Spurs fan, who likely has no idea who people like Jeff Pendergrass, Mickael Gelabale, and Vitor Faverani are.

McDonald is not a multi-million dollar coach or player, he's just a working stiff like you and the rest of us. Cut him some slack.


No. He does not dig a ditch. He does not cook a burger. He does not have to mend a wound. He does not have to clean a butt, and he does not have to put his health or welfare in danger. He gets paid to do what many do for fun. So, he does not get to be called a working stiff.

Just like the players, he is in a job that merits public criticism when he does not perform to the customer's satisfaction. The customer's are the fans. People in this forum are big fans. They actually have a duty to criticize the guy to protect all of the lay fans who do not know any better.

[Keepin' it real]

No. He does not dig a ditch. He does not cook a burger. He does not have to mend a wound. He does not have to clean a butt, and he does not have to put his health or welfare in danger. He gets paid to do what many do for fun. So, he does not get to be called a working stiff.

Just like the players, he is in a job that merits public criticism when he does not perform to the customer's satisfaction. The customer's are the fans. People in this forum are big fans. They actually have a duty to criticize the guy to protect all of the lay fans who do not know any better.

If you knew how poorly journalists are paid, you might reconsider your working stiff criteria. Either way, let's agree to disagree.

[benefactor]

Related, highly entertaining reading:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148661

[Amuseddaysleeper]

http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/4/0/401dc_ORIG-facepalm_gif.gif

I was kidding man

[CGD]

Just curious, if Spurs are still in the hunt for AK (if not it seems odd they havent announced Belli or Pende signings yet), and if the Spurs are also committed to Belli for what seems to be the room exception, doesn't that necessarily mean that the Pendegraphs deal has to be for the vet minimum (2yrs/2m)?

Spurs aren't planning at this point to use the MLE, and even if they do go that route, it's not like they promised Pendegraph a higher salary in the event they do.

[ducks]

lol go to bing type spurs beat writer
this thread is like the 5 one that pops up

[dbestpro]

lol go to bing type spurs beat writer
this thread is like the 5 one that pops up

That's just sad. :lol

[redskinfan]

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9771/t7g.PNG

Fun day!

[benefactor]

:lol...nice troll job.

[Kool Bob Love]

:lmao:rollin:rollin Good shit.

[SA210]

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9771/t7g.PNG

Fun day!

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:rollin:rollin

What a moron :rollin

[Blackjack]

If the money's halfway decent, and it'll get me back home, I'd be more than happy to take over for Jeff - give him the opportunity to find a job he's actually passionate about.

Start the Blackjack push, 'Talkers. :smokin

[ElNono]

If the money's halfway decent, and it'll get me back home, I'd be more than happy to take over for Jeff - give him the opportunity to find a job he's actually passionate about.

Start the Blackjack push, 'Talkers. :smokin

well, good to see you

[tmtcsc]

Sorry about that, I've been wanting to use that gif for a while. I got trigger happy.

[Blackjack]

You, too, amígo.

Brushin' up on my Español.

[ElNono]

You, too, amígo.

Brushin' up on my Español.

Muy Bueno :toast

[Blackjack]

Oh, it's a bueno . . .

But seriously, get me a job! :lol

[DPG21920]

I am not sure McDonald gets paid. I think they had a "bring your very untalented kid to work day" and he just stuck around. Like Milton from Office Space.

[Blackjack]

I'll bring my own stapler.

[Baam]

What I really dislike about him is how submissive he sounds with Pop when he has no problem asking annoying question to the players... Monroe and him have some sort of ongoing competition to see who can come up with the easiest question for Pop, sometime they go so far with it it's ridiculous...

[ca®lo]

He's so bad I actually miss lance "fill in the blanks" blanks, tbh

[ducks]

Just how bad are you at your job? I hope you have a job where people publicly criticize you for (perceived) poor performance.

His job is not to appease Spurs fanatics. That's what sites like this are for. His job is to provide Spurs-related content for the average San Antonio citizen and Spurs fan, who likely has no idea who people like Jeff Pendergrass, Mickael Gelabale, and Vitor Faverani are.

McDonald is not a multi-million dollar coach or player, he's just a working stiff like you and the rest of us. Cut him some slack. HE TELLS THEM GOOGLE IS THEIR FRIEND
NOT TELLING THEM WHO THEY ARE

[Mel_13]

I would love that trash excuse no balls having wanna be of a writer to read this thread to see how badly people know he sucks. He probably already knows, but I would still love for him to read it.

ST is one of his primary sources of information. He's definitely read this thread by now.

Honestly, he's terrible at his job. How many times in the last 6+ years has he been the original source of any news about the Spurs? There's no excuse for the beat writer for the only daily newspaper in town to have such poor connections within the organization after all these years.