No. 1 pick Bogut ejected from summer league game [Archive]

Kori Ellis

07-18-2005, 06:54 PM

No. 1 pick Bogut ejected from summer league game

Associated Press

MINNEAPOLIS - Milwaukee Bucks center Andrew Bogut, the No. 1 pick in this year's NBA draft, was ejected from a summer league game on Monday after tangling with Indiana Pacers center John Edwards.

Edwards, who was also ejected, got caught up with Bogut underneath the basket and inadvertently shoved him to the ground as he headed back up court.

Bogut bounced off the floor and went after Edwards, but the two were separated by teammates before they made any contact.

After deliberating for a few minutes, the officials surprisingly decided to eject both players rather than issue technical fouls, eliciting heavy complaints from both coaching staffs.

"It was a pretty quick hook," Bogut said after the game. "I needed a rest anyway."

Edwards said the initial contact was not intentional.

"I don't think it was merited," he said of the ejection.

It was a frustrating day for Bogut, who was 1-for-7 with 6 points and four fouls when he was ejected. He was also dominated on the defensive end by Pacers center David Harrison, who scored 14 points in the first half with Bogut guarding him.

Vashner

07-18-2005, 06:55 PM

Nice healthy b-ball...

spurschick

07-18-2005, 06:56 PM

Sounds like ole Andrew is going to be entertaining next season. Bogut Bitch Watch 2005-2006!

Kori Ellis

07-18-2005, 06:57 PM

It's very hard to get ejected in summer league. Good job, Bogut :rolleyes

timvp

07-18-2005, 06:58 PM

The B word is coming to mind. Getting dominated by David Harrison is not a good sign.

HB22inSA

07-18-2005, 07:12 PM

Bogut Bitch Watch 2005-2006!
You're not lying.

I don't like this guy, and he hasn't played 1 significant NBA minute.

ducks

07-18-2005, 07:15 PM

I think the refs blew this one
geez refs it is SUMMER LEAGUE GIVE THEM A T and if they do it again get them gone

HB22inSA

07-18-2005, 07:18 PM

There shouldn't be any T's in summer League to begin with.

Timoha

07-18-2005, 07:20 PM

Bogut has been talking trash about proven NBA platers, and now this. He'll be interesting to watch.....

ducks

07-18-2005, 07:20 PM

big men take longer to adjust then guards
I would keep the bust quiet for a few more games

50 cent

07-18-2005, 07:31 PM

The dude's gonna be a total bust IMO. He is not quick enough for the NBA.

TheTruth

07-18-2005, 09:42 PM

There shouldn't be any T's in summer League to begin with.
Yeah, that would make for clean, entertaining games.

ducks

07-18-2005, 09:43 PM

The dude's gonna be a total bust IMO. He is not quick enough for the NBA.

did not james suck in summer league games
:rolleyes

Bandit2981

07-18-2005, 09:46 PM

Why is everyone trashing Bogut? He didn't even start the thing, he got shoved to the ground first and got up to get in the other guy's face...No punches thrown, just words. Dumb ejections on the ref's part.

xcoriate

07-18-2005, 09:52 PM

did not james suck in summer league games

Exactly. Summer league is pretty much meaningless, Check out Marvin Williams box score against us if thats who you would of chosen instead of Bogues.

It was a weak draft but I'm 99% sure that Bogut won't bust. Once he adjusts/learns the nba game it will be all sweet.

TDMVPDPOY

07-18-2005, 10:09 PM

I mite be aussie, but im not a supporter of the yob, this is what you get for gloating b4 gettin drafted, what goes around comes around. BUSTS

dunkman

07-18-2005, 11:10 PM

Bogut has a huge ego as some great players, but I'm not sure if he will be able to backup all that talking.

Supreme Allah

07-19-2005, 12:07 AM

Everyone says that he talks all this trash but everything he has said has been pretty spot on.

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 02:17 AM

Exactly, pretty much everything he has said has been taken out of context. With the whole Kobe thing he definately should not have used names, but shit happens and one he learns to handle the media well he should be fine.

If he fails to do so then you have problems, but you can put most of what he has said down to honesty and lack of tact as appose to having an egotistical character.

SpizdiStrann

07-19-2005, 02:18 AM

bogut is darko´ no.2 :smokin

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 02:25 AM

is Darko a bust?

SpizdiStrann

07-19-2005, 02:27 AM

is Darko a bust?

no darko is white DRobinson, - remember?? :lmao

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 02:31 AM

Well the Jury is still out isnt it?

dunkman

07-19-2005, 04:59 AM

is Darko a bust?
Yes, so far.

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 05:45 AM

Based on what?

dunkman

07-19-2005, 06:18 AM

John Hammond, Pistons assistant coach, said recently that no one that size and age is so quick, handles the ball or shots better, but true to be said Larry Brown would have made a bust of LeBron, too.

Few players could compete with Rasheed, Ben Wallace and McDyess, right from the high school and the Nuggets ware trying to go up in the draft to pick him. Jermain O'Neal couldnt get playtime either for 4 years.

But so far, Darko has showed very little for a #2 draft pick.

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 06:24 AM

That doesn't changed the fact that you have labelled him a bust purely upon hersay. We won't know if his a bust until he actually starts getting playing time. There a countless players that have been dissapointments out of the draft but have redeemed themselves later down the track due to a change of situation or maturing.

Spurologist

07-19-2005, 06:42 AM

It's very hard to get ejected in summer league. Good job, Bogut :rolleyes

Going after someone for shoving you warrants an ejection? Bogut did nothing. This happens all the time in the nba and the most the players get is a technical foul.

I like that fact that Bogut has a bit of a mean streak in him. Not too many foreign big men (granted he played in utah) show that type of fiestiness need in the nba. i.e D-A-R-K-O

dunkman

07-19-2005, 06:44 AM

Hersay? Did you saw him play?

Spurologist

07-19-2005, 06:47 AM

Hersay? Did you saw him play?

No I didn't see it, but i'm just going along with what the article says. It says they made "no contact."

Wish I had watched it though. NO NBATV :depressed

dunkman

07-19-2005, 06:54 AM

No I didn't see it, but i'm just going along with what the article says. It says they made "no contact."

Wish I had watched it though. NO NBATV :depressedSorry for highjacking Boguts thread. I was talking about Darko with a person that posted before.

HB22inSA

07-19-2005, 07:28 AM

The Darko jury got sent home early on a technicality--the fact that he sucks!!!

1Parker1

07-19-2005, 07:35 AM

Spurologist

07-19-2005, 08:14 AM

"It was a pretty quick hook," Bogut said after the game. "I needed a rest anyway." :rolleyes

What a dumbass. Sure that does happen in the NBA a lot where players shove eachother and get Techs...but that last quote is what makes him an ass.

That's exactly what I was thinking. In wanting to become nba material, you say the last thing that needs to be said. Moronic jesture IMO.

boutons

07-19-2005, 08:26 AM

spur219

07-19-2005, 08:27 AM

He has had an attitude even before he got drafted.

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 08:38 AM

"It was a pretty quick hook," Bogut said after the game. "I needed a rest anyway."

Its typical Australian humor dripping with sarcasm I actually laughed when I read it. I don't expect you to nescessarily understand it just know its not meant to be taken the way you took it.

Australians are not Euros, I'm sure you know that and while no one has labelled him as one in this thread note that our general demeanor is very different from a European. The same can be said for Argentinians I guess.

Retaliation was certainly not clever but it happens on the court, most players I know have been in exchanges with other players, verbal or otherwise. In this case it was a verbal one that should have resulted in techs for both players, but that fault lies at the refs as appose to the players. Basically I don't see how you can fault either player in this instance and you just have to get on with it.

Unfortunately there seem to be those that want to take issue with Boguts actions regardless of the facts which as presented here just seem to be a typical on court altercation. Anyone who has been around basketball for more than a few years knows this is harmless and to treat it otherwise to hate on a player is narrow minded.

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 08:40 AM

On Darko my point was that its way to early to label him as a bust and he has seen an infinite amount more nba court time than Bogut. Calling someone a bust during there first summer league is laughable.

NZHayden

07-19-2005, 09:13 AM

haha dont piss an ozzie off lol trust me on this one,
watch this
the warriors will win the NRL this year and the all blacks will kick ur wallaby asses in the tri nations

Spurologist

07-19-2005, 09:22 AM

bogut is darko´ no.2 :smokin

I wouldn't go that far.

nkdlunch

07-19-2005, 09:22 AM

is Darko a bust?

Oh yes. Not really all his fault, he came into a team that didn't develop him correctly, and now his confidence is nonexistent. I don't think he'll ever recover enough psychologically to be the superstar he promised.

nkdlunch

07-19-2005, 09:23 AM

haha dont piss an ozzie off lol trust me on this one,
watch this
the warriors will win the NRL this year and the all blacks will kick ur wallaby asses in the tri nations

you're right! I've seen Crocodile Dundee :lol

"Now this is a knife!"

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 09:23 AM

Hayden: Lucky I'm not a Rugby kind a guy. But I always watch Aus vs NZ is Rugby. Dunno why its just a thing, everyone does it. I always enjoy it too :)

nkdlunch

07-19-2005, 09:25 AM

Bogut seems to be one of those macho/chip-on-their-shoulders Aussies and South Africans I've encountered.

Maybe getting in a fight was stupid, but nobody will paint him with the dreaded "soft" label.

I wanna see him vs. Shaq. I'll not be surprised if he starts crying like a bitch after Shaq abuses his ass.

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 09:26 AM

Darko is what 20??

Jermaine O'neal recovered fine from warming the bench with Portland.

I'm not a Darko lover by any means but I'm defending him to make a case. Theres always a chance for a player his age to overcome it all and get some help with a new coaching staff or whatever and grow into maybe not a star but a good player.

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 09:30 AM

Dude I'm sure Duncan will give him a nice schooling as well. His a rookie not a superstar ffs, you shouldn't be expecting him or any of the draft picks to hold there own against Shaq in the first years of there career, hell Shaq dominated not only rookies but any centre of worth for a few years in there.

ducks

07-19-2005, 09:56 AM

did you people think j oneal was a bust to when he sat on the bench in portland

dunkman

07-19-2005, 10:00 AM

Shaq could not dominate any other great centers (Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing) until they ware well past their prime.

dunkman

07-19-2005, 10:11 AM

did you people think j oneal was a bust to when he sat on the bench in portland
His coach wasnt Larry Brown. Carmello did look like a complete bust at the Olympic games, and like a superstar at the end of the regular season with George Karl.

Sportcamper

07-19-2005, 10:22 AM

Lets hope Andrew Bogut does not go Kwame on the Bucks...

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 10:27 AM

But he most certianly can dominate a rookie centre entering the league. You've missed the point, no one in their right mind expects Bogut to be able to outplay Shaq yet. Chance are it will happen in the not to distant future with Shaq on the decline and Bogut on the up.

I wanna see him vs. Shaq. I'll not be surprised if he starts crying like a bitch after Shaq abuses his ass.

As stated Bogut probably wont outplay Shaq for a while but I give you my assurances he'll do his best.

His coach wasnt Larry Brown. Carmello did look like a complete bust at the Olympic games, and like a superstar at the end of the regular season with George Karl.

Your proving my contention for me, Larry Brown has stunted Darkos nba growth through no playing time. Thus it is unfair to label him as a bust without realistically knowing what he can do. Sure there is a chance hes a bust but theres also the chance his the next Jermain O'Neal.

Bogut hasn't even played nba minutes, thats right you know less of his nba game than you do Darkos. To call him a bust, now onbly makes a mockery of yourself.

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 10:29 AM

Lets hope Andrew Bogut does not go Kwame on the Bucks...

Its a possibility, but I doubt it happens. You see there's this little thing called an Aussie Battler... :smokin

Ed Helicopter Jones

07-19-2005, 10:39 AM

Bogut will be a decent NBA center - - - just don't pay attention to the fact that Danny Granger pwned him in head to head matchups and Danny is going to be playing the 3 in the show.

Sportcamper

07-19-2005, 10:57 AM

Aussie Battler...'a person who refuses to admit defeat in the face of difficulty'... 'a person who battles or fights'....

Those are nice qualities for an NBA Center to have...I hope he pans out... :smokin

GrandeDavid

07-19-2005, 11:01 AM

I've never been the biggest fan of Bogut. I was not too impressed when I saw him play Kentucky in the Sweet 16 in Austin (and I sat two rows and exactly behind Rex Chapman). Still, he should be a decent center by today's rather paultry center standards.

dunkman

07-19-2005, 12:39 PM

Your proving my contention for me, Larry Brown has stunted Darkos nba growth through no playing time. Thus it is unfair to label him as a bust without realistically knowing what he can do. Sure there is a chance hes a bust but theres also the chance his the next Jermain O'Neal.

Bogut hasn't even played nba minutes, thats right you know less of his nba game than you do Darkos. To call him a bust, now onbly makes a mockery of yourself.
:lol I said that Milicic is a bust, so far.

Which is a fact.

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 06:26 PM

I disagree hes hardly played. Inn what court time has he proved to be a bust?

Supreme Allah

07-19-2005, 11:02 PM

I disagree hes hardly played. Inn what court time has he proved to be a bust?

He shoots 30% and pretty much everythign was right under the basket.

Dre_7

07-19-2005, 11:23 PM

He shoots 30% and pretty much everythign was right under the basket.

Yeah with like only 3 shots or so. I think he will be good if he gets some PT

xcoriate

07-19-2005, 11:47 PM

He started a game against Atlanta and went for 16 points or something from memory on good shooting. No one on this forum is informed enough to call him a bust, yet...

MI21

07-20-2005, 04:36 AM

Bogut is just showing the Australian in him with those comments. Nothing unusual to see Australian Sports people speaking like that.

As for his performances, I've learnt not to read to much into Summer Leage stats. LeBron sucked large ones in his summer league games, then came out and was a couple of assists/rebounds off a triple double in his first NBA game.

DesiSpur_21

07-20-2005, 05:12 AM

Bogut is just showing the Australian in him with those comments. Nothing unusual to see Australian Sports people speaking like that.

I can vouch for that - but the problem is Bogut hasn't acheived a thing (ok .. except being no.1 pick) in a pro-league. The other Aussie pros are winners..and mental game is a part of their strategy.

Look at Hewitt to shut his thing while playing Federer while he sits right on top of other guys
:lol