From 1976-2011, 279,384 blacks have been murdered

[Thebesteva]

and of those murdered, 262,621 were murdered from other blacks. That's 91% of black murders in this country are caused from other blacks. It seems like they should be a little less worried about that other 9%

[Venti Quattro]

:cry Whites are wacist
:cry They kill us blacks
:cry They responsible for violence against blacks

[Trill Clinton]

dumb thread

[Thebesteva]

dumb thread

Dumb thread with 100% facts?? Cmon now trill

[Trill Clinton]

Dumb thread with 100% facts?? Cmon now trill

what is the point of this thread? what was the socioeconomic status of those blacks? can you prove there was no outrage to any of those murders? how many blacks were killed because of hate crimes during that time frame?

[Trill Clinton]

what is the % of white murders committed by other whites? is it less than 91%? what is the % of hispanic murders that were committed by other hispanics? same for asians?

[Leetonidas]

most races tend to kill each other tbh not a revelation or anything

[DPG21920]

what is the % of white murders committed by other whites? is it less than 91%? what is the % of hispanic murders that were committed by other hispanics? same for asians?

The point is race wars aren't the issue. Crappy, crime-driven people are the issue which is why race related crime is a blip on the radar. Yet, you want to get up in arms over any race related crime when that is not the biggest issue at all and you want to ruin impressionable kids by telling them race is the issue and that they should have a chip on their shoulder because of it.

[Thebesteva]

The point is race wars aren't the issue. Crappy, crime-driven people are the issue which is why race related crime is a blip on the radar. Yet, you want to get up in arms over any race related crime when that is not the biggest issue at all and you want to ruin impressionable kids by telling them race is the issue and that they should have a chip on their shoulder because of it.

Exactly...cant believe we had to spell that out for trill

[Avante]

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What Will, Steele and O'Reilly failed to mention is the exacting truth that white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics (http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf) (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.ASTE

[Cane]

The Interrupters documentary says it all

Fuck Chicago

[Katherine Robinson]

We are afraid to murder out of our own race, it is taboo.

[SupremeGuy]

lol black people are so impressionable...

The media tells them they're victims and goddammit they'll believe it to the end of time.

[redzero]

:lol Trill talking about "hate crime" as if murder doesn't automatically fall into that category.

[Trill Clinton]

The point is race wars aren't the issue. Crappy, crime-driven people are the issue which is why race related crime is a blip on the radar. Yet, you want to get up in arms over any race related crime when that is not the biggest issue at all and you want to ruin impressionable kids by telling them race is the issue and that they should have a chip on their shoulder because of it.


race related crime isn't a blip on the radar to me or minorities.

[Trill Clinton]

:lol Trill talking about "hate crime" as if murder doesn't automatically fall into that category.

what's your point?

[Trill Clinton]

lol black people are so impressionable...

The media tells them they're victims and goddammit they'll believe it to the end of time.

this makes no sense

[DPG21920]

race related crime isn't a blip on the radar to me or minorities.

Intellectually dishonest post.

[Trill Clinton]

Intellectually dishonest post.

prove me wrong...i'll wait

[DPG21920]

That doesn't make any sense.

[Trill Clinton]

lol

[DPG21920]

If I was to tell you that 10 bad things happened and in that group of bad things, 9.1 out of the 10 things that happened were related to one variable (variable a) and the other .9 things that happened were related to another variable (variable b), which variable would you likely peg as the bigger issue?

[Trill Clinton]

If I was to tell you that 10 bad things happened and in that group of bad things, 9.1 out of the 10 things that happened were related to one variable (variable a) and the other .9 things that happened were related to another variable (variable b), which variable would you likely peg as the bigger issue?

i would say they are all a big issue

[DPG21920]

But would you protest and dwell mainly on variable b and tell kids that variable b means they are at a severe disadvantage?

If you are a realist then you understand that while even one bad thing happening is wrong, some issues are bigger than others. When you choose to ignore the main issues and instead focus efforts on something that statistically is a minor part of the equation you are failing to see the forest for the trees and end up doing more harm.

[Trill Clinton]

But would you protest and dwell mainly on variable b and tell kids that variable b means they are at a severe disadvantage?

If you are a realist then you understand that while even one bad thing happening is wrong, some issues are bigger than others. When you choose to ignore the main issues and instead focus efforts on something that statistically is a minor part of the equation you are failing to see the forest for the trees and end up doing more harm.

i think when it comes to a person's life, there is no one life that is bigger than the other. both are horrible crimes and i talk to my brothers about both. lets not be naive to the fact that african americans live under a different set of rules. call it playing the race card, butthurt, bitter...but its true. look at who lives in the poorest neighborhoods, who gets the longer prison sentences for crimes while whites commit the same crimes and get slapped on the wrist.

i see whats going on but unfortunately a lot of ya'll dont. its easier to call us butthurt and say we use the race card and turn a blind eye to it...but i understand why ya'll do it.

[DPG21920]

There is so much lying (ya, I said it) in that post that you can't even begin to have a conversation with you.

[Trill Clinton]

wow

[UZER]

There is so much lying (ya, I said it) in that post that you can't even begin to have a conversation with you.

just stop already. Dude is a perfect example of willful ignorance. You're not gonna convince him of anything even with logical numbers. He'll just play dumb on purpose.

[SupremeGuy]

just stop already. Dude is a perfect example of willful ignorance. You're not gonna convince him of anything even with logical numbers. He'll just play dumb on purpose.I blame the media. They want to push their narrative that black people are all victims and uneducated people who can't think for themselves eat that shit up all day.

"Why am I poor and live in the ghetto? Not because my dad is a wannabe thug alcoholic, and my mom's a crack whore; but because the White man is holding me down!"

It's fucking pathetic how delusional some people can be.

[CuckingFunt]

Crappy, crime-driven people are the issue

Crappy crime-driven people, communities of color disenfranchised by centuries of systemic racism. Potayto, potahto.

[The Reckoning]

yeah so latinos, asians, irish, italian, indians etc etc were all subjected to the same systemic racism

it's half a century after the civil rights movement. people need to stop making excuses. america needs to drop the race act now on both sides. it's sad and pathetic.



http://youtu.be/GeixtYS-P3s

[DPG21920]

Crappy crime-driven people, communities of color disenfranchised by centuries of systemic racism. Potayto, potahto.

No. There is a reason every race kills themselves extensively more than other races. Whites kill other whites over 80% of the time in murders involving white people.

[Creepn]

No. There is a reason every race kills themselves extensively more than other races. Whites kill other whites over 80% of the time in murders involving white people.

It's not about that right now. It's about the flawed justice system. Especially against the black community. Justice surely isn't blind and that's why O'Mara selected an all white jury.

[blizz]

How is it flawed? It worked perfectly, exactly how it's supposed to work in this case. No evidence no conviction. See how that works?

[lebomb]

It's not about that right now. It's about the flawed justice system. Especially against the black community. Justice surely isn't blind and that's why O'Mara selected an all white jury.


X2 ............. its all bullshit. I knew that a not guilty verdict was coming. Shocker I tell ya!!!! :rolleyes

[blizz]

Both sides had the chance to keep or strike jurors. Each side had 10 peremptory strikes -- 10 opportunities to eliminate potential jurors without having to disclose their reasons -- and an unlimited number of strikes "for cause," for such reasons as bias or hardships.

[DPG21920]

Look, this is one mans opinion but:

When you claim to be an advocate for equality and a better system but only proclaim your outrage in one racially charged instance you lose credibility. Not only that, but when your entire posting history is one of race baiting and racism, that hurts the integrity of your arguments too.

The overall point is that racism is still around. It's still a big & sensitive issue. However (again this is one mans opinion), racism is no longer the main issue keeping minorities down. Minorities are flourishing more than ever, cultures are being more & more embraced & powerful minority world leaders are accepted and shaping policy. There are other races than African American that have suffered and continue to suffer racism in addition to over coming severe oppression. Why is it that some are doing better than others? Racism is one of many variables in a complex problem but the woe is me attitude is not helping, nor is the severe cherry picking on "human rights" that just so happens to coincide with a particular race that suits you.

[Chomag]

Why does it seem that African Americans make the most issue about race? I know others do but they seem to be the one that plays the race card most times. I honestly don't care, you could be blue or even purple for that matter, just as long as your a good person.

[Trill Clinton]

It's not about that right now. It's about the flawed justice system. Especially against the black community. Justice surely isn't blind and that's why O'Mara selected an all white jury.


X2 ............. its all bullshit. I knew that a not guilty verdict was coming. Shocker I tell ya!!!! :rolleyes

preach on, brothas.

hopefully this trial is a tipping point. too long have we cried out against discrimination, oppression, racism and the long term effects of racism and civil rights. when we speak on what's going on in innercities, its us "whining" or playing the race card. if ya'll aren't involved in your communities, get involved. mentor young minorities, volunteer, support black business and arm yourselves.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

mentor young minorities

Teaching them not to suckerpunch people would be a good start.

[Homeland Security]

preach on, brothas.

hopefully this trial is a tipping point. too long have we cried out against discrimination, oppression, racism and the long term effects of racism and civil rights. when we speak on what's going on in innercities, its us "whining" or playing the race card. if ya'll aren't involved in your communities, get involved. mentor young minorities, volunteer, support black business and arm yourselves.
Every people group that has come to this country has suffered oppression. They've had to organize and agitate for their rights. They've worked their way into the structures of power. They existing power structure never let them in -- they forced their way in. And then life went on.

For every other people group, this outcome was inevitable because of the innate vitality of these peoples and cultures. They always were going to get there eventually -- help from advocates outside those groups just helped them get there faster. But for all of them that train was leaving the station no matter what.

For blacks the narrative just isn't panning out that way. It doesn't look like they're going to get there on their own. They can't pull themselves off the crutch of outside help. Where that help is pulled away they just fall back down into the mire. Almost all the blacks that could forseeably do anything for themselves given a helping hand already have been. The group as a whole can't force its way in like others can. It can't decipher the dominant culture. Up might as well be down. Left might as well be right. All the organizing and agitating just isn't getting them where they want to be. And now other people groups (Hispanics, Southeast Asians, etc.) are starting to build up that momentum and claw into the mainstream like every other immigrant group ever has, and blacks are sucking their wake.

And the black man has an inevitable reality he will let himself go insane before he will ever address. The racists are right about you.

[illusioNtEk]

black people kill black people

[Katherine Robinson]

It's not about that right now. It's about the flawed justice system. Especially against the black community. Justice surely isn't blind and that's why O'Mara selected an all white jury.

If the state had not sought murder of the 2nd degree, Zimmerman would very likely have faced manslaughter on circumstantial evidence. When prosecution highballs a charge, it backfires very frequently (eg Casey Anthony). You cannot blame the justice system for the severe incompetence of the prosecution - they were, after all, partly responsible for jury selection.