Summer League Game Thread: Spurs vs. Cavs - July 18, 2013

[ace3g]

Cavs add Jardine to Summer League Roster (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/releases/jardine-summer-league-roster-130718)


2013 cavaliers Summer League Averages


Name
G
GS
MPG
FG%
3p%
FT%
OFF
DEF
RPG
APG
SPG
BPG
TO
PF
PPG


Chris Goulding (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_chris_goulding)
2
0
2.0
0.000
0.000
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.50
0.0


Matthew Dellavedova (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_matthew_dellavedova)
3
0
17.7
0.357
0.167
0.000
0.3
2.7
3.0
2.7
1.30
0.30
2.30
1.30
3.7


Carrick Felix (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_carrick_felix)
3
3
25.3
0.375
0.250
1.000
2.3
4.3
6.7
0.3
1.00
0.70
2.30
2.70
8.3


Justin Harper (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_justin_harper)
3
0
15.7
0.385
0.167
1.000
1.0
3.3
4.3
0.0
0.70
0.00
1.00
1.00
4.0


Josh Heytvelt (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_josh_heytvelt)
3
0
13.7
0.250
0.000
0.000
0.7
1.3
2.0
0.7
0.30
0.30
1.30
3.30
0.7


Cory Higgins (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_cory_higgins)
3
1
21.7
0.375
0.333
0.778
0.3
0.7
1.0
1.3
0.70
0.00
1.00
2.00
7.0


Kevin Jones (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/)
0
0
0.0
0.000
0.000
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.0


Kenny Kadji (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_kenny_kadji)
3
3
21.7
0.333
0.000
0.143
1.7
3.3
5.0
0.0
0.30
1.70
0.00
3.30
3.7


Chris Quinn (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_chris_quinn)
2
2
15.5
0.200
0.000
0.500
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.5
0.50
0.00
1.50
2.00
1.5


Jermaine Taylor (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_jermaine_taylor)
3
0
14.7
0.458
0.444
0.778
1.0
1.7
2.7
1.0
1.00
0.00
1.00
2.30
11.0


Dion Waiters (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_dion_waiters)
3
3
29.3
0.295
0.222
0.636
0.3
3.0
3.3
3.7
0.00
0.30
3.30
3.30
14.0


Tyler Zeller (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/sl_tyler_zeller)
3
3
29.3
0.567
0.000
0.700
1.7
7.7
9.3
0.0
0.70
0.70
3.30
5.00
13.7


Jared Berggren (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2013/players/)
0
0
0.0
0.000
0.000
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.0


Team Averages


200
0.384
0.226
0.662
9.3
28.0
37.3
10.0
6.3
4.0
18.33
26.00
67.0

[playblair]

dellavedova vs cojo :toast.......................

chris quinn ex spurs pg............................

[CitizenDwayne]

Quinn averaging 1.5 pts in summer league?!?!?!

I knew he sucked, but damn.

[raybies]

Who would of thought at this point of the summer league that Deshaun would be our most consistent player and be leading us in scoring.

Also according to the roster, Thomas shoud be matched up with Zeller or Kadji which would be favorable matchups. The more I think about it, players like him will benefit greatly due to the lack of dominant bigs that play the game nowadays. All he has to do is box out on rebounds; he can stay in front of C or PF on D. But I would like to see him against a SF. I guess I want to see him defend that position with some team D, by funneling the player to Baynes or Pittman. They have both shown they can guard the rim.

[spursince#99]

Quinn averaging 1.5 pts in summer league?!?!?!

I knew he sucked, but damn.


:lmao

[Darkwaters]

Finally a reasonable time for a game start. I don't have to wake up in the middle of the night but can instead just watch it normally.

[biziofromdowntown]

Finally a reasonable time for a game start. I don't have to wake up in the middle of the night but can instead just watch it normally.

Yeah, same for me, this will be the first SL game this year, i hope DeShaun will show us something.

[Chinook]

With Miami winning their game, if the Spurs win, then The Redemption can occur.

[TheWriter]

Is this being shown on nba tv or espn3.com?

[CitizenDwayne]

With Miami winning their game, if the Spurs win, then The Redemption can occur.

:lol

[CitizenDwayne]

Is this being shown on nba tv or espn3.com?

NBA TV, for sure. Don't know about espn3

[Darkwaters]

With Miami winning their game, if the Spurs win, then The Redemption can occur.

If we win the whole thing, and by that I clearly mean the Summer League tournament, where does that rank on the list of major Spurs accomplishments?

PS: Trophy?
Rings?

[Chinook]

If we win the whole thing, and by that I clearly mean the Summer League tournament, where does that rank on the list of major Spurs accomplishments?

PS: Trophy?
Rings?

Drive for five, baby. :lobt2:

Real-talk, I'd love to see the Spurs win not just because I like the Spurs, but also because it would be great experience for Joseph, Thomas and the rest of the prospects. Especially for Cory, since he didn't get to play in the playoffs with the Toros.

[ace3g]

San Antonio Spurs @spurs
(http://twitter.com/spurs)[Instavid] Deshaun Thomas and Marcus Denmon warming up before the game. #gospursgo (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23gospursgo) instagram.com/p/b61mbYJ_Di/ (http://t.co/AE1NUIEdBl)

[Baam]

Didn't he play two years ago when they won the D league championship?

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPew8wNCIAAVR4N.jpg:large

[gambit1990]

what time will it air? soon?

[ace3g]

I'd rather play Bulls in next round, so we can play Tony Snell.

[timvp]

Excited to see this team again :tu

[ace3g]

Game time

[MeloHype]

Easy win for us

[ace3g]

Baynes should overpower Zeller

[ace3g]

offense out of sync right now

[Baam]

Nice to have Isaiah calling the game.

The offense looks terrible so far, De Colo and Cory not doing anything basically...

[loveforthegame]

Thomas has a surprisingly quick first step.

[loveforthegame]

Sloppy.

[Baam]

Are they tanking to go home sooner?

[yavozerb]

Thomas has a surprisingly quick first step.

Everything about his offensive game is already average to above average by NBA standards..Thats pretty impressive at age 21

[Captivus]

Hate those travels..

[ace3g]

Baynes!!!

[loveforthegame]

Baynes finally. Go inside.

[loveforthegame]

Come on CJ. :bang

[Baam]

That offense... Makes my eyes bleed.

[loveforthegame]

I like Thompson but no room of course.

[Captivus]

didnt Thomas miss a 3 pointer...nba.com stats not showing it

[loveforthegame]

Denmon. :tu

[loveforthegame]

NDC with some heads up plays.

[MeloHype]

Nando doing work.

Nando = x factor

Play Nando

[loveforthegame]

didnt Thomas miss a 3 pointer...nba.com stats not showing it

He took that after a foul call.

[loveforthegame]

DP.

[jimbo]

Quinn averaging 1.5 pts in summer league?!?!?!

I knew he sucked, but damn.

I didn't even know he could play. I thought it was limited to guys in their first 3 seasons

[loveforthegame]

NDC with those offensive fouls on a pass. Drives me crazy. But he's playing well otherwise.

[Captivus]

He took that after a foul call.

Ah...ok.

Wheres Thomas!?

[loveforthegame]

Thomas on the bench now. Not involved on offense at all.

[ace3g]

Thomas is doing what he has been doing all summer league, if he doesn't have a good look he makes a pass. Early on he would have gotten some open looks but Cavs had active hands.

[Boomersgold]

Those sleeved jerseys look pretty sick!

[Boomersgold]

Prediction: Baynes ends the game with 15 points and 6 rebounds.

[ace3g]

Plus the last 2 games, Thomas did most of his scoring in 2nd half; he knows when to pick his spots

[Darkwaters]

The only results that matter now is the final score, right? You were originally ranking you by the number of quarters that you won, not the final score.

[loveforthegame]

Plus the last 2 games, Thomas did most of his scoring in 2nd half; he knows when to pick his spots

I like that he doesn't force any thing.

[kobyz]

i'm intrigued by Pitman potential, now with his reduce weight type body he could do more and better work, he still strong as hell, his jump hook look very smooth, with a little bit time he could be money inside when he catch the ball, i think we should sign him!

[Captivus]

I like that he doesn't force any thing.

Exactly what I've been saying. Couldnt agree more.

[yavozerb]

i'm intrigued by Pitman potential, now with his reduce weight type body he could do more and better work, he still strong as hell, his jump hook look very smooth, with a little bit time he could be money inside when he catch the ball, i think we should sign him!

He needs to go to Europe and really work on his game. Not doing any good sitting NBA benches

[ace3g]

Baynes again

[loveforthegame]

Baynes. :tu more of that.

[Darkwaters]

Nando with active hands.

Rim block...embarrassing.

[loveforthegame]

Nando with active hands.

Rim block...embarrassing.

Isiah Thomas was laughing about the rim block too. :lol

[ace3g]

that was a nice slip by Baynes there

[Baam]

Cory not looking sharp at all

[loveforthegame]

Baynes with another nice showing on defense inside.

[loveforthegame]

Ouch. NDC took a shot.

[loveforthegame]

Thank goodness for Denmon.

[ace3g]

Denmon hammer playe

[loveforthegame]

Nice move by Baynes but missed.

Thomas struggling.

[ace3g]

nice pass Thomas

[loveforthegame]

Great pass by Thonas. :tu

[Captivus]

dunk it Baynes!!!! dont be Splitter!

[ace3g]

De Colo...

[NASpurs]

Waiters has been fucking horrible this summer league... until he met Nando De Colo. De Colo is the drought buster for the other team's guy.

[Baam]

Waiters has been fucking horrible this summer league... until he met Nando De Colo. De Colo is the drought buster for the other team's guy.

:lol

[Darkwaters]

De Colo's shooting looks rushed tonight. Regression to the mean.

[PingPong]

Fucking Dion Waiters looking like an allstar against those scrubs...

[loveforthegame]

Damn Denmon. That was sweet.

[Mayhem321]

Denmon is a good player but he doesn't seem to have NBA potential should be able to have a solid career in Europe

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Cheating bastards

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Oh it took them half a second to move it to half court from the baseline? Okay.

[Darkwaters]

Denmon is a good player but he doesn't seem to have NBA potential should be able to have a solid career in Europe

A true statement. The guy can definitely play with a lot of skill. But he just doesn't have the natural tools needed to be successful. Pity too, as he seems to be a decent enough guy.

[Darkwaters]

Drive for five, baby. :lobt2:

Real-talk, I'd love to see the Spurs win not just because I like the Spurs, but also because it would be great experience for Joseph, Thomas and the rest of the prospects. Especially for Cory, since he didn't get to play in the playoffs with the Toros.

We do have an NBDL Championship thanks to the Toros.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Dammit if Donald Sloan can be an NBA player, Marcus Denmon can be one too.

[Chinook]

Spurs are extremely rusty today.

[Chinook]

I still really like what Denmon is doing. If he can learn to shoot threes really well, he can stick on a roster like Mills has. He has more defensive upside than Patty.

[Darkwaters]

I still really like what Denmon is doing. If he can learn to shoot threes really well, he can stick on a roster like Mills has. He has more defensive upside than Patty.

I agree. The sun hasn't set on his NBA career just yet. But he definitely is looking at some long odds.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Okay I guess its fine to run into a guy after he takes a shot since its obviously not going to be called a foul

[loveforthegame]

Denmon is scrappy. Hope he makes it somewhere.

Guys are sloppy again though.

[DesignatedT]

I missed the start of the third. Is Joseph done?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

refs hate baynes

[loveforthegame]

Keep shooting Thomas.

NDC no need to be fancy.

[ace3g]

missing a lot of FTs today

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Nice hops by Thomas

[ace3g]

nice rebound by Thomas

[ace3g]

Baynes saved by the whistle

[Captivus]

Is Cle paying more attention to Thomas than other teams?

[loveforthegame]

Missed fts giving me bad memories.

[ace3g]

11-17 won't cut it...

[ace3g]

another nice pass by Thomas

[loveforthegame]

Thomas with another beautiful pass.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

YES!!!!

[ace3g]

Thomas won't miss now

[Darkwaters]

I'm getting kind of tired of this announcer constantly talking about the good ole days.

[ColinB]

Damn, Isiah Thomas is annoying as hell.

[Baam]

This game is possibly their worst so far... Denmon is making some shots but he rarely passes and the offense is pretty bad.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

team is falling apart, trade everyone

[Robz4000]

Spurs done in SL if they lose, right?

[Baam]

Ime tanking to avoid the Heat tbh.

[angelbelow]

Those kids are loud. Go Spurs Go.

[ace3g]

Pit!!

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Nando is a RETARD

[Darkwaters]

Spurs done in SL if they lose, right?

No, they get one consolation game.

[Darkwaters]

Nando really is Mr. Turn-Over isn't he?

[loveforthegame]

Pittman did some work in that quarter.

Baynes putback!!

[DesignatedT]

Joseph hurt or what

[Darkwaters]

Pittman did some work in that quarter.

Baynes putback!!

I'm happy for Pittman. Hes definitely showing some good things. Hopefully a team gives him a camp invite and he gets a chance to make another roster.

[loveforthegame]

Joseph hurt or what

He was banged up last game and sat most the second half. Same case this game maybe??

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

nando shoot it dammit

[SpursFan86]

This has been a pitiful game.

[Captivus]

NDC gets a lot of calls...

[ace3g]

Baynes time to take over

[loveforthegame]

Baynes needs more looks

[ace3g]

Baynes drawing the foul

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Baynes > Zeller

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

CLEAN BLOCK BULLSHIT

[ace3g]

Nando block?

[ace3g]

Baynes injured

[loveforthegame]

Baynes hurt?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Now Baynes got scratches all over his arms cuz the refs hate him

[Captivus]

Baynes hurt?

[loveforthegame]

So many 3s.

[ace3g]

but Baynes does need to work on controlling ball in traffic

[Baam]

Can't win that one without Baynes...

[Dex]

Nando backcourt violation.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

nice Denmon!

[ace3g]

Denmon big 3

[loveforthegame]

Denmon with another timely shot.

[Robz4000]

What happened to Baynes?

[Darkwaters]

It's not unwinnable, but they need to turn it around right now.

And Denmon drills a 3 as I type.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

lol Pittman, you can't bowl someone over like that no matter where theyre standing

[loveforthegame]

Plenty of time but it feels uphill.

[ace3g]

who go the T?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Bitch refs but Pittman is outta control

[Darkwaters]

Who is number 44?

[DesignatedT]

Nando with another shitty performance. He puts together a solid one for every 5 shitty ones. Just dump this dude already. Not sure Joseph has what it takes either tbqh.

[Baam]

Nando with another shitty performance. He puts together a solid one for every 5 shitty ones. Just dump this dude already. Not sure Joseph has what it takes either tbqh.

Yeah that's the problem, not sure why they didn't get a backup PG in priority instead of Pendergraph and Belinelli...

[Darkwaters]

Nando with another shitty performance. He puts together a solid one for every 5 shitty ones. Just dump this dude already. Not sure Joseph has what it takes either tbqh.

I don't know, he still has a legitimate chance at getting a double-double tonight. If only he can drill a 3 and turn the ball over 5 more times in the next 6 minutes.





Yea, I know, that's probably totally unrealistic. I can't imagine him drilling a 3 in a close game either.

[ace3g]

Denmon keeping us in this

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Close to a 4 pt play

[ace3g]

damn Thomas almost got the 4 point play

[loveforthegame]

Make your fts Thomas.

[loveforthegame]

Thomas. :tu

[Libri]

Who here still believes that Richards is the savior? :lol

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Nice

[Baam]

Getting a bit exciting finally...

[ace3g]

tie game

[loveforthegame]

Thompson 3. :tu

[MeloHype]

Nice pass nando

[ace3g]

big rebound from Thomas

[Darkwaters]

Wow, nice comeback so far.

[loveforthegame]

Thomas skies for another board.

[ace3g]

great play from Thomas, nice pass, Nando should have stepped up closer

[loveforthegame]

Dumb foul.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

bitch ass refs

[Darkwaters]

Who here still believes that Richards is the savior? :lol

I'm still on the James White bandwagon personally.

[loveforthegame]

Costly TO.

[ace3g]

wow looked clean to me

[Darkwaters]

Hmmm....not sure on that shit

[Libri]

I'm still on the James White bandwagon personally.

lol

[monkeypunk]

Bullshit call on Thomas

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

that black ref is calling EVERYTHING

[loveforthegame]

Thomas getting shady calls.

[Libri]

Live box score:

http://www.nba.com/games/20130718/SASCLE/gameinfo.html

[ace3g]

bout time we get a call, lol

[ace3g]

that was the first difficult shot Thomas has taken pretty much all summer league

[loveforthegame]

Nice move by Thomas but couldn't finish.

[Darkwaters]

Who is this "Denim" guy they keep talking about?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

i hope these refs stick to middle school games in the future

[monkeypunk]

That was almost a nice finish by DT

[Shaolin-Style]

i told myself while watching this it's just summer league but the officiating's gotten to me

[ace3g]

ball don't lie

[ace3g]

make your FTs

[illusioNtEk]

damn game to early for me, wish it was later

[loveforthegame]

Denmon or Thomas 3 coming up?

[DesignatedT]

Makes you appreciate the NBA officials after watching this shit.

[ace3g]

Thomas for 3

[DesignatedT]

Baynes is money. Only guy in Summer League who has been impressive IMO.

Thomas has had his moments but the flaws are noticeable.

[Baam]

Not even a good look.

[LakerHater]

357982411335811072 (https://twitter.com/yowhatupT/status/357982411335811072)

[ace3g]

Cavs needed all those points from top draft pick last year to win

[Shaolin-Style]

Baynes was fun to watch, glad he was alright after that scare earlier

[MeloHype]

Oh well

[Captivus]

357982411335811072 (https://twitter.com/yowhatupT/status/357982411335811072)

OUCH!

[TheGoldStandard]

De Colo sucking the big one once again.

[elemento]

Not that I care about SA losing a SL game, but this refs. Simply terrible.

[Chinook]

Positives:

-Denmon looked good, even if he was overwhelmed. You can see the leadership that he showed in college. I'm rooting for this kid, and hope he doesn't push the Spurs for a roster spot this season.

-Baynes seemed to have snapped out of his funk. He wasn't that good from mid-range, but he competed hard in the paint.

-De Colo kept a good attitude even while shooting poorly. It wasn't perfect, as he seemed to lose his cool at times. But I didn't get the impression he was still thinking he was too good to play in the summer league.

Negatives:

-Thomas crashed down to Earth hard. He has a lot to do in these next two years, whether in Europe or Austin. Honestly, the team has better uses for that roster spot, so let's hope it's the former.

-Injuries. Hopefully Joseph is all right. Baynes seemed to get a niggle as well, but he shook it off. Someone getting hurt is the worst-case scenario, obviously.

-The non-prospects once again got too much time, in my opinion. There's little reason to have only one roster member or draft pick on the court for stretches. Some of them may key plays, but all of they are just clearly too flawed to play in the league right now.

-Richards had about the worst stretch for a big man I've ever seen in terms of him understanding what to do on the court. His screens were awufl; he couldn't box anyone out; he failed to seal is man in the post. This guy needs to go somewhere where he can just learn how to play the game. I don't even mean a team. He needs to go to a school. He flashed a couple of interesting moves, but he was too out of position to take advantage of them. I doubted he'd get playing time for the rest of the summer league. But with only the consolation game remaining, he may well get a lot tomorrow.

[Poolboy5623]

So..due to having a job, I couldn't catch the game but it sounds pretty bad for nando? Is this the same guy that was upset for not getting minutes down the stretch last year? and .. he can't cut it In the summer league..wow.

[ace3g]

http://ht.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/video/teams/spurs/2013/07/18/130718udokamov-2544139-4.576x324.jpg (http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/2013/07/18/130718udokamov-2544139)
Postgame: Ime Udoka
7.18.13 |
2m55s

http://ht.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/video/teams/spurs/2013/07/18/130718baynesmov-2544143-5.576x324.jpg (http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/2013/07/18/130718baynesmov-2544143)
Postgame: Aron Baynes
7.18.13 |
3m38s

http://ht.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/video/teams/spurs/2013/07/18/130718denmonmov-2544141-8.576x324.jpg (http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/2013/07/18/130718denmonmov-2544141)
Postgame: Marcus Denmon
7.18.13 |
2m46s

[TheGoldStandard]

Today showed how bad that De Colo can't play point guard, kept looking for his shot more than facilitating and then when he did he forced the issue way too much.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKQC9qeyq7o

[Biggems]

did Pittman get to play, and if so, how did he look?

[TXstbobcat]

I thought Baynes and Denmon looked good today.

Thomas's shooting cooled off. Want to see how he bounces back in the next game.

[TheGoldStandard]

Baynes played well, has a really nice hook shot. He's improved every game.

[Darkwaters]

did Pittman get to play, and if so, how did he look?

Pittman played a decent amount. He actually had a number of really nice plays including a pair of solid blocks. He generally made a solid impact when he was in the game. Probably showed enough to get a camp invite somewhere. San Antonio just doesn't really have a lot of need for his skills considering the options that already exist for us.

[99 Problems]

How'd Dellavedova go as starting pg for Cavs in a close game? Perhaps somebody watching CJ or Nando may have taken notice???

[Darkwaters]

How'd Dellavedova go as starting pg for Cavs in a close game? Perhaps somebody watching CJ or Nando may have taken notice???

He had one steal against Denmon late in the game that helped seal the deal. Otherwise he didn't make an impression.

[99 Problems]

He had one steal against Denmon late in the game that helped seal the deal. Otherwise he didn't make an impression.


Thanks.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Pittman played a decent amount. He actually had a number of really nice plays including a pair of solid blocks. He generally made a solid impact when he was in the game. Probably showed enough to get a camp invite somewhere. San Antonio just doesn't really have a lot of need for his skills considering the options that already exist for us.

i totally agree. i think it's a real shame. pittman really stood out. not just this game, but the other games too. i found myself wondering if it'd be worth it for the spurs to give him a neal deal. even if it means way too much depth at big.

[dbestpro]

Summer league does not do a very good job of determining how good a Spurs player would be. Most of it is individual play, while Spurs ball is all about team play. The fact that Thomas can pass the ball already means he can do something that Danny Green has yet to learn to do. These games are not about stats, but rather how well they try to engage with their teammates both on offense and defense.

[Chinook]

Summer league does not do a very good job of determining how good a Spurs player would be. Most of it is individual play, while Spurs ball is all about team play. The fact that Thomas can pass the ball already means he can do something that Danny Green has yet to learn to do. These games are not about stats, but rather how well they try to engage with their teammates both on offense and defense.

The Heat took away Green's passing lane when they closed out on his threes. He either had to shoot or drive. He should have just shot more.