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rjv
07-21-2013, 11:58 PM
(killing time thread)

i'll give it to mike mitchell.

Ditty
07-22-2013, 12:01 AM
Steve Novak!!!

007nites
07-22-2013, 12:09 AM
Devin Brown

UnWantedTheory
07-22-2013, 12:13 AM
Steve Novak!!!

Ridiculous. It is obviously Roger Mason Jr.

spurraider21
07-22-2013, 12:16 AM
Steve Kerr has to be it. Brent Barry comes to mind. Danny Green is off to a heck of a start to his Spurs career. I hope he's around for a good while. Then there's Bonner. Those are all some spectacular shooters and thats only in the Timmy era

rjv
07-22-2013, 12:18 AM
barry was solid but his mid range game was a bit inconsistent. i actually think finley was a better overall shooter, or kerr for that matter.

elmanutres
07-22-2013, 12:19 AM
steve kerr

ironman2886
07-22-2013, 12:19 AM
If its both midrange and 3point shooting (pure shooting), it's Gary Neal.

slick'81
07-22-2013, 12:28 AM
Chuck person

timmy2003
07-22-2013, 12:29 AM
Kerr

Libri
07-22-2013, 12:31 AM
Dale Ellis

TheGreatYacht
07-22-2013, 12:32 AM
Ridiculous. It is obviously Roger Mason Jr.Ime Udoka

coachmac87
07-22-2013, 12:33 AM
Stephen Jackson both on and off the court....

TXstbobcat
07-22-2013, 12:38 AM
Sean Elliott.

Duncanonu
07-22-2013, 12:41 AM
(killing time thread)

i'll give it to mike mitchell.

Mike Mitchell is my favorite of that era when I was growing up. I guess the question is, do you mean mid-range, 3 pointers, or overall? Mitchell was good from mid, but had NO 3 pt shot, similar to Del Negro, but without the hair fake. Kerr, Ellis, Person, and Elliott came to mind for me right off the bat.

Buddy Mignon
07-22-2013, 12:52 AM
Duncan when he's hot. LOL!!!

therealtruth
07-22-2013, 12:59 AM
Danny Green?

Budkin
07-22-2013, 12:59 AM
Steve Kerr all day

Darkwaters
07-22-2013, 01:06 AM
In an empty gym?

Matt Bonner. Hands down.


The problem is when the game starts he shrinks considerably.

wildbill2u
07-22-2013, 01:11 AM
George Gervin shot a phenomenal FG% for a guard. In his NBA career of ten years, he averaged .511%. Those are percentages usually seen only in bigs on the front line. Not to mention the absolute artistry of many of his shots.

They used to have a trophy for the NBA player who had the most efficient shooting percentage and he won it three years in a row as I recall.

coachtf
07-22-2013, 01:12 AM
Dale Ellis

14dave
07-22-2013, 01:33 AM
Brent Barry

Kyl3
07-22-2013, 01:36 AM
Stephen Jackson both on and off the court....


:lol

mudyez
07-22-2013, 01:41 AM
Shot of the Dribble: Neal
3Pt: Ellis
BigManShooter: Bonner
Overall (Midrange included): Kerr
Honorable Mention: The Rifleman

Kingsly Alexander
07-22-2013, 01:57 AM
Shot of the Dribble: Neal
3Pt: Ellis
BigManShooter: Bonner
Overall (Midrange included): Kerr
Honorable Mention: The Rifleman

I can't deny any of this

lefty
07-22-2013, 02:12 AM
Best off-balance almost out of bounds with Rasheed Wallace in his face 3 pt shooter : Sean Elliott

sasffl
07-22-2013, 02:14 AM
Dale Ellis

spurraider21
07-22-2013, 03:03 AM
Best off-balance almost out of bounds with Rasheed Wallace in his face 3 pt shooter : Sean Elliott

can't believe nobody else even considered that category :lol

Elliott was great at those though

Obstructed_View
07-22-2013, 03:26 AM
Dale Ellis, Chuck Person, Glenn Robinson, Doc Rivers, Antoine Carr.

Drom John
07-22-2013, 05:49 AM
For single seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; from 1946-47 to 2012-13; playing for the San Antonios Spurs (Tex/Dal); requiring 3-Pt Field Goal Attempts >= 50; sorted by descending 3-Pt Field Goal Pct.

Steve Smith
Matt Bonner
Danny Ferry
Brent Barry
Matt Bonner
Bruce Bowen
Matt Bonner
Richard Jefferson
Danny Green

So, my answer starts triply with Matt Bonner

Sorting the same list by FG% and eyeballing out Boris's putbacks, Tony's teardrops and Manu's paint pinballs and so on, and leaving in Ellis because I don't remember his game:
Dale Ellis
Vinnie Del Negro (surprised)
Matt Bonner
Patty Mills (surprised)
Brent Barry
George Hill (surprised)
Mario Elie

The combined conclusion is: Matt Bonner by landslide.

Noticeably absent players who didn't make as high of a % as I expected.
Steve Kerr
Gary Neal
Hedo Turkoglu

And as a shooter, though admittedly in garbage time, Patty Mills > Gary Neal.

Capt Bringdown
07-22-2013, 06:03 AM
George Gervin shot a phenomenal FG% for a guard. In his NBA career of ten years, he averaged .511%. Those are percentages usually seen only in bigs on the front line. Not to mention the absolute artistry of many of his shots.

thumbs up

intlspurshk
07-22-2013, 06:25 AM
Robert Horry

bigfan
07-22-2013, 08:18 AM
Id just say (unscientifically) its either Mitchell or Neal.

Dex
07-22-2013, 08:24 AM
Robert Horry

Only during the last 2 minutes of the game.

Old School 44
07-22-2013, 09:14 AM
For you old schoolers....Louie Dampier.

baseline bum
07-22-2013, 09:15 AM
I can't understand everyone saying Ellis and Person, as they weren't that great of shooters in the postseason when people actually guard you. I mean any kind of reasonable performance from Person in 95 and the Spurs likely put a banner up that year. And Smith and Ferry don't belong there either for their chokes. Iceman is definitely the greatest shooter this team ever had inside the arc. Outside I'm going to go Finley, even though Kerr shot 83.3% :wow from the three in the 02-03 playoffs (his other two playoffs with the Spurs were awful though). Green, Neal, and Barry definitely have to be on that list too.

xmas1997
07-22-2013, 09:31 AM
Ice

Kidd K
07-22-2013, 09:54 AM
Shot of the Dribble: Neal
3Pt: Ellis
BigManShooter: Bonner
Overall (Midrange included): Kerr
Honorable Mention: The Rifleman

Ellis over Kerr from three? I completely disagree.

You realize Steve Kerr has the record for best career 3pt%%? By definition he's the best 3pt shooter ever in terms of efficient shooting.

Ellis' best 3pt% season: 47.8%
Ellis' Career: 40.3%
Times 43% or higher: 3

Kerr's best 3pt% season: 52.4% (over 50% 4 times)
Kerr's career: 45.4%
Times 43% or higher: 10

Ellis only has 2 seasons shooting higher % than Kerr's career average. With the Spurs, they shot almost the exact same 3pt% (just under 40%), but Kerr's seasons with us were 4 of the last 5 of his career, while Ellis' 2 seasons with us was in the middle of his career.

I have to give the nod to Kerr. If you're just talking about 3pt volume, then Danny Green is better than Dale Ellis. Last 2 seasons: 43-44% from three, average about 1 more 3pt make per game than Ellis did with us too.

In fact Danny Green will probably go down as our best 3pt shooter if we're talking volume and % just with the Spurs. He's shooting better than both Kerr and Ellis did with us in both makes per game and %.

rjv
07-22-2013, 09:57 AM
George Gervin shot a phenomenal FG% for a guard. In his NBA career of ten years, he averaged .511%. Those are percentages usually seen only in bigs on the front line. Not to mention the absolute artistry of many of his shots.


i thought about ice but i just consider him the best scorer we ever had. he was just balls out offensively. as you said, an artist.

DDUBB1770
07-22-2013, 10:10 AM
Carl Herrera

Humberto
07-22-2013, 10:24 AM
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQhnZPU2OF99JzWHzHFVakM00ozik_7c pmTLK-wOhAWyDcS9M7D

Shutting down the LA Forum :lol

mudyez
07-22-2013, 11:33 AM
Ellis over Kerr from three? I completely disagree.

You realize Steve Kerr has the record for best career 3pt%%? By definition he's the best 3pt shooter ever in terms of efficient shooting.

Ellis' best 3pt% season: 47.8%
Ellis' Career: 40.3%
Times 43% or higher: 3

Kerr's best 3pt% season: 52.4% (over 50% 4 times)
Kerr's career: 45.4%
Times 43% or higher: 10

Ellis only has 2 seasons shooting higher % than Kerr's career average. With the Spurs, they shot almost the exact same 3pt% (just under 40%), but Kerr's seasons with us were 4 of the last 5 of his career, while Ellis' 2 seasons with us was in the middle of his career.

I have to give the nod to Kerr. If you're just talking about 3pt volume, then Danny Green is better than Dale Ellis. Last 2 seasons: 43-44% from three, average about 1 more 3pt make per game than Ellis did with us too.

In fact Danny Green will probably go down as our best 3pt shooter if we're talking volume and % just with the Spurs. He's shooting better than both Kerr and Ellis did with us in both makes per game and %.

Yeah, I have to agree, but the question we have to ask:

is "best shooter" = "who can make a shot if left completely open?" or " "who can make a shot even if somewhat defended (not to be confused with guys that create their own shot)?"

coyotes_geek
07-22-2013, 12:34 PM
Ellis gets my vote. As awesome as Kerr was, he and everyone else like him should be disqualified. There's a huge difference between having to get your own shots and an having other guys create your shots for you.

Josepatches_
07-22-2013, 02:05 PM
Michael Finley was very good.... before we signed him. He only had a couple of good seasons here but his jumpshoot was nice to watch.

Kidd K
07-22-2013, 03:28 PM
Yeah, I have to agree, but the question we have to ask:

is "best shooter" = "who can make a shot if left completely open?" or " "who can make a shot even if somewhat defended (not to be confused with guys that create their own shot)?"

I think you'd have categorize that differently. If I were a PG and I had two guys open, I'm passing it to the guy with the highest 3pt%. If I needed someone to jack up a contested three for me, you're giving it to a different guy, ya know?

I don't think Kobe is a good 3pt shooter, but he can obviously make that crazy fadeaway shit more often than normal shooters can. Neal's the best on the team at doing that sorta thing but Green is better at getting them in consistently via normal means.

silverblk mystix
07-22-2013, 03:38 PM
Dale Ellis, Chuck Person, Glenn Robinson, Doc Rivers, Antoine Carr.


Glenn Robinson?

Doc Rivers?

Antoine Carr?


You obviously don't know shit about the game of basketball.

silverblk mystix
07-22-2013, 03:40 PM
George Gervin

Mike Mitchell

Louie Dampier

peacemaker885
07-22-2013, 03:47 PM
George Gervin - .5 career total shooter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gervige01.html)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/b3d9d0e4455c8eb7b92716fa496bdecb/tumblr_mffvwo73kL1qcpg76o1_500.jpg

Vash StampedE
07-22-2013, 03:54 PM
Started watching Spurs games faithfully only in 2009 and so I'm just curious if Kerr played significant playing time during the regular season or only during the playoffs. 'Cause I watched Open Court days ago and heard Kerr said that it was only when Parker got stomach virus in the 2003 playoffs that he got the opportunity to play. As we know, he surely relished the moment but I'm very curious if was part of the rotation or was just a situational player.

Spursone
07-22-2013, 04:15 PM
George Gervin shot a phenomenal FG% for a guard. In his NBA career of ten years, he averaged .511%. Those are percentages usually seen only in bigs on the front line. Not to mention the absolute artistry of many of his shots.

They used to have a trophy for the NBA player who had the most efficient shooting percentage and he won it three years in a row as I recall.


Definitely agree, shooting percentage and scoring both in ABA and NBA.

slick'81
07-22-2013, 04:36 PM
If ur going best pure scorer its gervin and its not even close

rascal
07-22-2013, 04:45 PM
Gervin

GB20
07-22-2013, 05:06 PM
choo choo

Dunc n Dave
07-22-2013, 05:35 PM
Something to consider when looking at the stats in regards to 3pt shooting:

The NBA experimented with a shorter 3pt line (22ft, instead of today's 23 ft, 9 inches) from 1994-1997 to help the low shooting % as a result of the 90's grind it out/iso ball. Shooting stats from those 3 seasons need to somehow be adjusted to take that into account...

Just so we're clear though, Ellis played for Denver during those 3 seasons with a shorter line. He was a Spur from 92-94, and averaged around 16ppg on 49% shooting with 40% from 3. Respectable numbers for a #3 scorer in his first season and the #2 scorer his 2nd season (DRob's scoring title year). He was a guy that scored off screen plays (kinda like Ray Allen most of his career) and kickouts on DRob double teams.

He's up there in the Top 3 for sure, but not sure if he beats out guys like Finley or Kerr. Of those 3, Finley was the most capable of getting his own shot, although he didn't do it much anymore once the Spurs got him.

therealtruth
07-22-2013, 06:15 PM
Started watching Spurs games faithfully only in 2009 and so I'm just curious if Kerr played significant playing time during the regular season or only during the playoffs. 'Cause I watched Open Court days ago and heard Kerr said that it was only when Parker got stomach virus in the 2003 playoffs that he got the opportunity to play. As we know, he surely relished the moment but I'm very curious if was part of the rotation or was just a situational player.

He only played because Parker was out. Pop lucked into that one because he would never have thought of playing Kerr otherwise.

disciple
07-22-2013, 06:18 PM
Chuck person

Beat me to it.

DJR210
07-22-2013, 06:34 PM
Stephen Jackson both on and off the court....

:lol

iManu
07-22-2013, 06:54 PM
JAMES WHITE!!!!!!

wldennis
07-22-2013, 07:16 PM
You all have obviously forgot about Steve Smith. I'll also throw Mario Elie and Johnny Dawkins in there.

johnnySpurs
07-22-2013, 08:51 PM
Dale Ellis was about as money as it gets.

Rogue
07-22-2013, 09:56 PM
best big-time shooter: Robert Horry, with manu coming as a remote 2nd place.

Obstructed_View
07-22-2013, 10:25 PM
Glenn Robinson?

Doc Rivers?

Antoine Carr?


You obviously don't know shit about the game of basketball.

You obviously don't know shit about the Spurs and their legendary scoring droughts.

Sean Cagney
07-22-2013, 10:57 PM
Steve Kerr but he hardly got time here. Elliott had a nice shot from deep. Barry as far as a pure shooter though, loved him! Would love to have him back here again (Not at this age obviously).

tmtcsc
07-22-2013, 11:37 PM
Manu...before the injury bug hit back a few years ago. He had a wide range of shots and wasn't limited to just jacking up 3's. ah man, I'm going to be ill.:depressed. He used to be so friggin great.

Sean Cagney
07-23-2013, 12:07 AM
Manu...before the injury bug hit back a few years ago. He had a wide range of shots and wasn't limited to just jacking up 3's. ah man, I'm going to be ill.:depressed. He used to be so friggin great.

I love Manu but I hate the jump shooting Manu who jacks up stupid threes :(.

xmas1997
07-23-2013, 09:11 AM
How can anyone argue against Ice? Gervin was by far the best, it's no contest!

Humberto
07-23-2013, 09:43 AM
Stephen Jackson both on and off the court....

:lmao