We lost GM 6&7 because a 37 year old was BY FAR our best player on the court

[SpursFan4-Life]

Riley surrounds wade with Lebron, bosh, Allen


RC surrounds Duncan with one all star who went ghost and bunch of journey men


Sorry Timmy, you gave it your all , carrying a fucking team at 37 years old

[TheGreatYacht]

Timmy has always carried the FO and Pop. I feel sorry for him.

[xmas1997]

Timmy has always carried the FO and Pop. I feel sorry for him.

Pop will be the first to admit that TD carries him, and has in many a many interviews. So what else is new?
Who do you think you are, the Gods' gift to FOs? You are just another fan and no more, no less, but a completely disgruntled and irrational one iMHO.

[SpursFan4-Life]

We cut Stephen Jackson because of pops ego trip and bring in TMac who doesn't play one meaningful minute


just look at the roster surrounding Duncan and the one surrounding wade, how did it even go 7 games?



duncan gave everything GM 6/7 to close it, no one around him to help him

[TheGreatYacht]

Pop will be the first to admit that TD carries him, and has in many a many interviews. So what else is new?
Who do you think you are, the Gods' gift to FOs? You are just another fan and no more, no less, but a completely disgruntled and irrational one iMHO.I agree. Pop used to say this a lot. The million dollar question is does he still think this way? Has Pop believed everything that is said about him too much? I think Pop has changed a bit.

[kobyz]

Riley surrounds wade with Lebron, bosh, Allen


RC surrounds Duncan with one all star who went ghost and bunch of journey men


Sorry Timmy, you gave it your all , carrying a fucking team at 37 years old

All this and we still had the title in our hands, title that could have been most amazing and sublime in history, we lost only because curse reasons and some unnatural force wanted to create the most maltreatment action to people in history.

[xmas1997]

I agree. Pop used to say this a lot. The million dollar question is does he still think this way? Has Pop believed everything that is said about him too much? I think Pop has changed a bit.

Well, everyone changes, that is the only thing you can depend upon in this life "changes".
The key is being able to roll with the uncomfortableness that change brings on without going the deep end and then making preposterous and ludicrous statements or actions.
He seems to be much the same Pop to me, IMHO. Besides, that is one of the tenets Pop lives by so I doubt he has changed that about himself.

[MeloHype]

Kawhi was just as good tbh

[SpursFan4-Life]

Kawhi was just as good tbh

He was, but that's who the second best player was for Duncan, a second year rookie



yeah we should have won, but the best RC and Pop have surrounded Duncan with over the years were 2 draft pics that turned out well, but now one is shit

[MeloHype]

He was, but that's who the second best player was for Duncan, a second year rookie



yeah we should have won, but the best RC and Pop have surrounded Duncan with over the years were 2 draft pics that turned out well, but now one is shit
Manu played well in game 7 until the final minute, and Parker had a fucked up hamstring even though he made clutch shots in game 6

[xmas1997]

All this and we still had the title in our hands, title that could have been most amazing and sublime in history, we lost only because curse reasons and some unnatural force wanted to create the most maltreatment action to people in history.


Please, stop with the exaggerations and over emotionalism, it makes me think you are a child.
There were far worse losses in the Spurs history! How about when the Washington Bullets won against the Spurs? That was ten times worse because Ice and company never won one or got close after that series!

[xmas1997]

Manu played well in game 7 until the final minute, and Parker had a fucked up hamstring even though he made clutch shots in game 6

I'm afraid you will never convince these idiots of something as rational as that.
It is what it is and apparently wasn't meant to be, the whole team was responsible for losing, not just two or three individuals.

[Prime Time]

the whole team was responsible for losing, not just two or three individuals.
This. I bet Manu regrets those turn overs and that missed free throw in G6, Kawhi regrets his missed free throw, Parker regrets missing the final regulation shot of G6, Pop regrets not putting in Duncan, Duncan regrets missing that post-shot in G7, Green regrets shrinking in the final 2 games, Splitter regrets not playing more aggressive.
Win as a team, Die as a team. If any of those players had performed to expectations or hit a couple of their shots, Spurs would be champions. But that's just not the case, but there's no need to point fingers at any single person.

[Prime Time]

Another thing about Duncan: Spurs fans need to stop jock strapping him. He's the best Spur of all time and easily a top 10 player, but for the most part.. he didn't reach expectations in these finals. 15 points and 11 boards on 46% shooting for the first 5 games (Against Bosh, Birdman, and Anthony may I remind you). I realize his age yes, but I find it incredibly unfair to blame TD's supporting cast for games 6/7 while without this said supporting cast Spurs would have been swept.

[kobyz]

Please, stop with the exaggerations and over emotionalism, it makes me think you are a child.
There were far worse losses in the Spurs history! How about when the Washington Bullets won against the Spurs? That was ten times worse because Ice and company never won one or got close after that series!
Don't even try to compare between those two loses, it's not close at all, you really don't understand what meaning this title could have made, and what the meaning of this loss. Ice winning one is not important as Duncan getting number 5, ring that would have put him as top 2 greatest player of all time, Duncan is the Spurs, never has been and never will be this kind of special player that you desire to see him succeed.

[TheGoldStandard]

There are a lot of "what if's" but it's over and done with. Can only hope the Spurs have another run in them.

[Prime Time]

Don't even try to compare between those two loses, it's not close at all, you really don't understand what meaning this title could have made, and what the meaning of this loss. Ice winning one is not important as Duncan getting number 5, ring that would have put him as top 2 greatest player of all time, Duncan is the Spurs, never has been and never will be this kind of special player that you desire to see him succeed.
More like "I wouldn't have been old enough to enjoy the 1979 title". TD is already an all-time great, there's no question about that. The 2013 loss didn't hurt his greatness at all. Meanwhile Gervin will never be taken seriously to casual NBA Fans because he never won a title... Gervin's first>>>>Duncan's fifth.

[xmas1997]

Don't even try to compare between those two loses, it's not close at all, you really don't understand what meaning this title could have made, and what the meaning of this loss. Ice winning one is not important as Duncan getting number 5, ring that would have put him as top 2 greatest player of all time, Duncan is the Spurs, never has been and never will be this kind of special player that you desire to see him succeed.


You really really can't be serious making this statement. I can't believe you believe what you are saying. Are you truly saying that TD deserved his 5th ring MORE than Ice deserved his 1st?
Because if you are then you will be waking up a sleeping giant and have all the old timer Spurs fans up in arms and spanking your ass!

[Tyrone Jenkins]

This thread is interesting...

You make it seem like TD hasn't been the best player on this team before. He usually is - although he was NOT in the 2007 when TP took over the series.

Plus, we're talking about the BEST POWER FORWARD in the history of the NBA. Better than Karl Malone. Better than Kevin McHale.

Is it a stretch to think the best player on the team is TD even at his age? There are probably 15-20 other teams in the NBA that if TD were on them, he'd be the best on that team as well.

[TheGreatYacht]

This thread is interesting...

You make it seem like TD hasn't been the best player on this team before. He usually is - although he was NOT in the 2007 when TP took over the series.

Plus, we're talking about the BEST POWER FORWARD in the history of the NBA. Better than Karl Malone. Better than Kevin McHale.

Is it a stretch to think the best player on the team is TD even at his age? There are probably 15-20 other teams in the NBA that if TD were on them, he'd be the best on that team as well.This. TD is the main reason why Spurs have 5 championships. Spurs have ZERO without him. TD makes the FO look better than what they really are. TD helped Pop get into the HoF. TD and Kawhi carried in Games 6 & 7 but his stubborn coach and that broken down teammate of his with 8 turnovers flushed all his hard work down the toilet.

[xmas1997]

This. TD is the main reason why Spurs have 5 championships. Spurs have ZERO without him. TD makes the FO look better than what they really are. TD helped Pop get into the HoF. TD and Kawhi carried in Games 6 & 7 but his stubborn coach and that broken down teammate of his with 8 turnovers flushed all his hard work down the toilet.


BS post!

[eric365]

RC surrounds Duncan with one all star who went ghost and bunch of journey men


The ghost was the best player of the playoff until the Finals according to ESPN and had some of the most clutch shot in Spurs history in Game 1 and Game 6 of the finals

[baseline bum]

ROFL... RC Buford lands Kawhi Leonard, you remember, the guy who kept hitting huge shots in the fourth in Game 7 of the Finals on the road to keep the Spurs in the game? He lands him with a mid first-round pick in a really weak draft. And the Spurs front office sucks? RC drafts a HOF point guard with the last pick of the first round. He sees something in undrafted Danny Green, Green sets the Finals record for most threes. And this is all an indictment of RC Buford????

[TheGoldStandard]

Spurs can't rely on 1 or 2 players to win a closeout game in the finals, not unless that 1 player is Prime Tim Duncan. Spurs lost that game to a ton of mental errors and bad coaching.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Trying to pin the Spurs failure to win the 2013 Finals on one person (or office) is asinine. It simply wasn't one persons' (or offices') fault.

[DesignatedT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdV0XsrWl8g

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Spurs are heavy favorites out of the west. No, the Rockets aren't good enough, their ceiling is Golden State's ceiling last season. They'll be back next finals, with a 38 year old Tim Duncan leading his team as he has done so awesomely his whole career.

[Sean Cagney]

We cut Stephen Jackson because of pops ego trip and bring in TMac who doesn't play one meaningful minute


just look at the roster surrounding Duncan and the one surrounding wade, how did it even go 7 games?



duncan gave everything GM 6/7 to close it, no one around him to help him

I would say nobody can to win it with him those games but a certain 21 year old played his ass off.... Forget him?
Spurs are heavy favorites out of the west. No, the Rockets aren't good enough, their ceiling is Golden State's ceiling last season. They'll be back next finals, with a 38 year old Tim Duncan leading his team as he has done so awesomely his whole career.

Glad you are so certain they are such heavy favorites out West, don't know where you came to that conclusion from?

There are other good teams out West who can beat you in any given series, period (OKC and Memphis). Memphis series two went to OT and the last game was close, those games could have gone either way.

[baseline bum]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdV0XsrWl8g

Sickens me seeing people scoff Parker for being injured.

Mm0BIFofRYk

[xmas1997]

I would think the Spurs would be favorites, just not heavy favorites, and especially so if they can sign Oden and he remains injury free!

[Skull-1]

Kawhi was just as good tbh

[Skull-1]

Parker traveled and double dribbled, honestly, on his miracle shot. It is karma in some weird way.

[Budkin]

Sickens me seeing people scoff Parker for being injured.

Mm0BIFofRYk

Had we won I'd watch these clips 1000 times over, now they are just torture because I know what happens after. It's like watching that amazing shot Timmy made over Shaq... or the Manu 3 pointer that would have sealed the win over the Mavs. They are all irrelevant.

[kobyz]

More like "I wouldn't have been old enough to enjoy the 1979 title". TD is already an all-time great, there's no question about that. The 2013 loss didn't hurt his greatness at all. Meanwhile Gervin will never be taken seriously to casual NBA Fans because he never won a title... Gervin's first>>>>Duncan's fifth.


You really really can't be serious making this statement. I can't believe you believe what you are saying. Are you truly saying that TD deserved his 5th ring MORE than Ice deserved his 1st?
Because if you are then you will be waking up a sleeping giant and have all the old timer Spurs fans up in arms and spanking your ass!

Yeah Tim fifth is more important, it's a finish with a one title which is great but relatively trivial, against being with five instead of four, something that will mean the world different and would have been the greatest achievement ever in sport and would have put Tim number 1 basketball player of all time... And moreover you just can't love ice more than Tim, Tim is everything, no one could bring more pride than him, he is the most classy, the most magic, the most elegance, the most exciting, the most everything, as a sportsman.

[playblair]

playing splitter ahead of blair = ....................... blairs strengths were needed vs the heat.................. splitter was exposed ................... blair vs miller/anderson/battier = spurs win................ splitter couldn't post any defender ................ flash backs of splitter vs fisher...............

[kobyz]

Had we won I'd watch these clips 1000 times over, now they are just torture because I know what happens after. It's like watching that amazing shot Timmy made over Shaq... or the Manu 3 pointer that would have sealed the win over the Mavs. They are all irrelevant.

Yeah this season could have bring hundreds of dream and amazing memories, but now those same fragments flip to being nightmares and biggest sadness.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah this season could have bring hundreds of dream and amazing memories, but now those same fragments flip to being nightmares and biggest sadness.Oh grow up.

It's a game.

[kobyz]

Oh grow up.

It's a game.

Nice Cliché!

[ChumpDumper]

Nice Cliché!Being an emo sports fan is also a cliché.

[xmas1997]

Being an emo sports fan is also a cliché.

He has to be a troll. No one acts like this. And no one would think Ice not getting a ring was not worse than TD getting his 5th.
He is either very very sick in the head or a troll trying to incite a rise.

[kobyz]

Being an emo sports fan is also a cliché.

Don't know what is emo, and I don't come from Cliché place at all, but this thing is hurt as hell and I'm just expose my feeling and being true.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't know what is emo, and I don't come from Cliché place at all, but this thing is hurt as hell and I'm just expose my feeling and being true.That's pretty much textbook emo.

And yeh, for sports fans it's a sad cliché.

And you don't need to capitalize it unless it's your body spray or something.

[xmas1997]

That's pretty much textbook emo.

And yeh, for sports fans it's a sad cliché.

And you don't need to capitalize it unless it's your body spray or something.

kobyz needs to go back to school too.
Or get those fellows in the white coats to put him back in his padded cell.
However I really don't know what to do with that great yatch fellow. He is just plain LOST in his bitterness!:hat

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.colognes.com/Images/products/Cliche%20copy.jpg

[xmas1997]

http://www.colognes.com/Images/products/Cliche%20copy.jpg

If I remember correctly, Mouse used to be real good at that too.

[kobyz]

That's pretty much textbook emo.

And yeh, for sports fans it's a sad cliché.

And you don't need to capitalize it unless it's your body spray or something.

I don't think it could be an emo or a Cliché if it's true and not for show. Sometimes in life even if something is look like a Cliché it's not and just pure feel.

[Sean Cagney]

Had we won I'd watch these clips 1000 times over, now they are just torture because I know what happens after. It's like watching that amazing shot Timmy made over Shaq... or the Manu 3 pointer that would have sealed the win over the Mavs. They are all irrelevant.

Basically.
Parker traveled and double dribbled, honestly, on his miracle shot. It is karma in some weird way.

VF84 Jolly Rogers in your avi?????? The helmet shows it all. That or VF-103?

[Sean Cagney]

He has to be a troll. No one acts like this. And no one would think Ice not getting a ring was not worse than TD getting his 5th.
He is either very very sick in the head or a troll trying to incite a rise.

If someone does act like this in real life I don't want to meet them and they seriously need some help. He is a troll, no doubt.
Yeah Tim fifth is more important, it's a finish with a one title which is great but relatively trivial, against being with five instead of four, something that will mean the world different and would have been the greatest achievement ever in sport and would have put Tim number 1 basketball player of all time... And moreover you just can't love ice more than Tim, Tim is everything, no one could bring more pride than him, he is the most classy, the most magic, the most elegance, the most exciting, the most everything, as a sportsman.
LOL Best player of all time? You know Mike has 6 right? Russell has what 11! Tim is not the best basketball player of all time and I am a huge DUNCAN fan and Spurs fan to the heart. You have to be a troll and it's obvious as hell with your outrageous statements and over the top emo crap. Your act is getting really old and just flat out annoying. You know exactly what you are doing here and it appears you might not even be a Spurs fan but created an account to try and make things worse for us in here and make us want to kill ourselves over a game.

My hunch says you are a Laker fan from downstairs with another account, only they repeat the same shit over and over like you to a T.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think it could be an emo or a Cliché if it's true and not for show.It can be and is both.

[Juggity]

He has to be a troll. No one acts like this. And no one would think Ice not getting a ring was not worse than TD getting his 5th.
He is either very very sick in the head or a troll trying to incite a rise.

Gervin not getting a ring doesn't matter at all. It was 30+ years ago and the league was dominated even more by superteams than it is now. Magic/Kareem, Bird's Celtics, the 76ers. etc. There was noway for Gervin/Spurs to compete in that era.

Plus, Gervin really wasn't even a transcendently great player. A great scorer, sure. But so was Alex English. Tracy McGrady.

Basically, Gervin is just nowhere near Duncan in terms of talent and production. Duncan's ring count is a lot more important, given Duncan's a contender for the five or eight greatest players of all time

[xmas1997]

Basically.

Yup, I'm really looking forward to this next season, especially if we can get Oden and he remain injury free.

[kobyz]

Gervin not getting a ring doesn't matter at all. It was 30+ years ago and the league was dominated even more by superteams than it is now. Magic/Kareem, Bird's Celtics, the 76ers. etc. There was noway for Gervin/Spurs to compete in that era.

Plus, Gervin really wasn't even a transcendently great player. A great scorer, sure. But so was Alex English. Tracy McGrady.

Basically, Gervin is just nowhere near Duncan in terms of talent and production. Duncan's ring count is a lot more important, given Duncan's a contender for the five or eight greatest players of all time

This

[kobyz]

Gervin not getting a ring doesn't matter at all. It was 30+ years ago and the league was dominated even more by superteams than it is now. Magic/Kareem, Bird's Celtics, the 76ers. etc. There was noway for Gervin/Spurs to compete in that era.

Plus, Gervin really wasn't even a transcendently great player. A great scorer, sure. But so was Alex English. Tracy McGrady.

Basically, Gervin is just nowhere near Duncan in terms of talent and production. Duncan's ring count is a lot more important, given Duncan's a contender for the five or eight greatest players of all time

This

[HI-FI]

Parker traveled and double dribbled, honestly, on his miracle shot. It is karma in some weird way.
Lol.

some truth to that. Parker got away with a lot on that final shot. I remember feeling less confident throughout game 6 because it was obvious Duncan and Kawhi were the only ones still remaining. Parker was disappearing per par, Manu was imploding ....

whats sad is we truly faced the best, and we simply didn't have enough to put them away. The Heat are so loaded, willing to go over the cap to keep all that talent, and we almost pulled off the upset. if we would've played anyone else from the east we would've blown them out, but unfortunately Heat are too loaded compared to everyone else.

however, if Heat make it back to Finals, that will be 4 Finals in a row, and I can't imagine them being as sharp. Shit, the wheels were starting to come off of them in this series.

[Vash StampedE]

It's been a month! Get over it!

And if you hate our GM, I don't know what else you could ask for.

[ChumpDumper]

I've done it with a few teams, but seriously -- compare the Spurs' draft history over the past 15 years with any other team in the NBA.

It's no contest.

Add to that the teams fielded while staying under the tax every season but one, damn.

[kobyz]

It can be and is both.

So I think you have a wrong interpretation, cause if that true there is no meanings for the words, in my case you can't use those words in bad connotation, I'm not coming from those places, I'm really hurt big time but I'm not those determinations

[ChumpDumper]

So I think you have a wrong interpretation, cause if that true there is no meanings for the words, in my case you can't use those words in bad connotation, I'm not coming from those places, I'm really hurt big time but I'm not those determinationsI can use those words in any connotation that fits.

This one fits.

[kobyz]

I can use those words in any connotation that fits.

This one fits.

So you have very small perspective and understanding.

[Vash StampedE]

:lol at those still having meltdowns even a month since then
But yeah, I'll join you guys when Duncan retires not winning another championship.

[xmas1997]

lol Sorry, but I just have to laugh.
Hey, maybe that is why he is posting .................. as comic relief!

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol at those still having meltdowns even a month since then
But yeah, I'll join you guys when Duncan retires not winning another championship.If that happens, then you'll remember me.

[ChumpDumper]

So you have very small perspective and understanding.On the contrary, you're being very emo about being called emo tbh.

[kobyz]

:lol at those still having meltdowns even a month since then
But yeah, I'll join you guys when Duncan retires not winning another championship.

:lol at those who act too cool to school and trying to refuse facing the true, if you a true fan, this is a disaster you can't recover or move on from.

[Vash StampedE]

If that happens, then you'll remember me.
Don't worry, I won't

[xmas1997]

If that happens, then you'll remember me.

Geeez, I don't know which is worse the crying sniveling of kobyz, or your baseless broken record accusations and whining name calling.
Both of you have become quite irritating! All anyone can do is laugh at your takes because your posts are just plain too ridiculous to be taken seriously.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol at those who act too cool to school and trying to refuse facing the true, if you a true fan, this is a disaster you can't recover or move on from.So are you just going to die over this?

[Vash StampedE]

:lol at those who act too cool to school and trying to refuse facing the true, if you a true fan, this is a disaster you can't recover or move on from.
:lol Meltdown, a month and counting

[kobyz]

On the contrary, you're being very emo about being called emo tbh.

Or maybe you can't accept telling you that you wrong.

[xmas1997]

So are you just going to die over this?

:rollin Chump, that is just too too funny, in a morbid sort of way, but morbidity can be quite funny too sometimes!

[ChumpDumper]

Or maybe you can't accept telling you that you wrong.Me right.

So are you going to die over this?

[Chinook]

Every member of the team played well enough for the Spurs to win; it's just that everyone else didn't.

That about sums up what happened.

Duncan had great numbers the last two games, but he missed the two most-important shots. Leonard showed up offensively in Game 7 and had been solid there and great defensively for the whole series, but his missed free throw led to the Heat having a chance. Green set a record for threes in the Finals, but he missed a shot that could have tied it in Game 7. Parker played heroically to bring the Spurs back in Game 6, but his selfish play in overtime led to the team blowing two great chances to take the lead. Ginobili's game 5 should have been enough to win the series, but his Game 6 got in the way. Splitter took Bosh out of the series offensively and made the Heat the Big Two. But he couldn't score enough.

They lost as a team. If any one of those players had had just a little bit more in the tank, the Spurs win. But they didn't, and to pretend like everyone let down Duncan when the person who let him down the most was himself completely misses the point.

[kobyz]

So are you just going to die over this?

One thing is for sure I'm gonna be in grief the rest of my life.

[xmas1997]

Every member of the team played well enough for the Spurs to win; it's just that everyone else didn't.

That about sums up what happened.

Duncan had great numbers the last two games, but he missed the two most-important shots. Leonard showed up offensively in Game 7 and had been solid there and great defensively for the whole series, but his missed free throw led to the Heat having a chance. Green set a record for threes in the Finals, but he missed a shot that could have tied it in Game 7. Parker played heroically to bring the Spurs back in Game 6, but his selfish play in overtime led to the team blowing two great chances to take the lead. Ginobili's game 5 should have been enough to win the series, but his Game 6 got in the way. Splitter took Bosh out of the series offensively and made the Heat the Big Two. But he couldn't score enough.

They lost as a team. If any one of those players had had just a little bit more in the tank, the Spurs win. But they didn't, and to pretend like everyone let down Duncan when the person who let him down the most was himself completely misses the point.

I've been saying this same thing the whole time, but some on here, I guess they are trolling, keep harping on it's only Manu and Pops fault, or it's the "end of the world". Either they went into the twilight zone and saw different games than we did, or they are seriously mentally deficient, or they are trolls. That's about the only thing you can infer from their "nutty" posts.

[TheGreatYacht]

Every member of the team played well enough (except for Manu) for the Spurs to win; it's just that everyone else didn't.

That about sums up what happened.

Duncan had great numbers the last two games, but he missed the two most-important shots. Leonard showed up offensively in Game 7 and had been solid there and great defensively for the whole series, but his missed free throw (so did Manu being the savvy vet that he is) led to the Heat having a chance. Green set a record for threes in the Finals, but he missed a shot that could have tied it in Game 7. Parker played heroically to bring the Spurs back in Game 6, but his selfish play in overtime led to the team blowing two great chances to take the lead. Ginobili's game 5 should have been enough to win the series, but his Game 6 got in the way. Splitter took Bosh out of the series offensively and made the Heat the Big Two. But he couldn't score enough.


They lost as a team. If any one of those players had had just a little bit more in the tank, the Spurs win. But they didn't, and to pretend like everyone let down Duncan when the person who let him down the most was himself completely misses the point. I don't mean to sound like a broken record but here's another way to put things in perspective:
Danny Green shot the lights out for the first 5 games. He defended Lebron and on the fast break pretty well. He did what was expected of him and was a major reason why we were up 3-2 in the series.

What did Manu do? He turned the ball over 8x in Game 6.
Kawhi Leonard did a good job defending Lebron the whole series. He consolidated himself in the finals by replacing Manu as the part of the Big 3. He missed a free throw because he's young. He gets a pass.

What did Manu do? He missed a free throw despite being a good career FT shooter and being one of our most experienced guys.
Tim Duncan had monster numbers for Games 6&7 so him and Kawhi basically carried the team. Tim wasn't even supposed to play a Game 7 had it not been for Pop and Manu's choke jobs in Game 6.

What did Manu do? He turned the ball over 8 x, he missed a free throw, and committed a huge turnover in the 4th quarter of Game 7.
Tony Parker hit that huge three pointer while being guarded Lebron in the final minutes of Game 6. Without his three point shot, we wouldn't even be up by 5 points with 28 seconds to go. What did Manu do? He got in Kawhi's way of getting a rebound, 8 turnovers, and missed a huge free throw with being a veteran player.
Superstars win you games on the road. Role players tend to choke on the road. Tim Duncan, TP, and Kawhi made their contributions on the road for the most part, especially on Games 6&7. See above.

What did Manu do? He was pathetic throughout the NBA finals. He shit the bed.

Stop spreading the blame and using the "we win as a team, we lose as a team" bullshit because that' doesn't apply in Game 6. Stop being a Popsucker or Manutard and accept the fact that Pop and Manu cost Timmy his 5th championship. See above.
You can spread the blame all you want but the fact is that Pop and Manu shat the bed. They pulled the biggest choke job in NBA history.

[TheGreatYacht]

I've been saying this same thing the whole time, but some on here, I guess they are trolling, keep harping on it's only Manu and Pops fault, or it's the "end of the world". Either they went into the twilight zone and saw different games than we did, or they are seriously mentally deficient, or they are trolls. That's about the only thing you can infer from their "nutty" posts.Need I remind you of something?

Definition of Homer - Someone who shows blind loyalty to a team or organization, typically ignoring any shortcomings or faults they have.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homer

[ChumpDumper]

I don't mean to sound like a broken recordhttp://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/224/a/4/the_awesome_smiley_face_by_thevideogameguy-d5atcdm.png

[Vash StampedE]

Every member of the team played well enough for the Spurs to win; it's just that everyone else didn't.

That about sums up what happened.

Duncan had great numbers the last two games, but he missed the two most-important shots. Leonard showed up offensively in Game 7 and had been solid there and great defensively for the whole series, but his missed free throw led to the Heat having a chance. Green set a record for threes in the Finals, but he missed a shot that could have tied it in Game 7. Parker played heroically to bring the Spurs back in Game 6, but his selfish play in overtime led to the team blowing two great chances to take the lead. Ginobili's game 5 should have been enough to win the series, but his Game 6 got in the way. Splitter took Bosh out of the series offensively and made the Heat the Big Two. But he couldn't score enough.

They lost as a team. If any one of those players had had just a little bit more in the tank, the Spurs win. But they didn't, and to pretend like everyone let down Duncan when the person who let him down the most was himself completely misses the point.
Say no more:(

[Spurs7794]

Me right.

So are you going to die over this?

In another thread, he mentioned he's going to start cutting himself. So he's either a super emo attention whore spurs fan who can't deal with reality or he's an attention whore troll. Either way, he's an attention whore.

[xmas1997]

In another thread, he mentioned he's going to start cutting himself. So he's either a super emo attention whore spurs fan who can't deal with reality or he's an attention whore troll. Either way, he's an attention whore.

He's got to be a troll. no one over acts like this over a game.

[Budkin]

He's got to be a troll. no one over acts like this over a game.

[dbreiden83080]

No we lost game 6 because of a horrible coaching decision..

Game 7 we were lucky to even be close with the heart ache of game 6..

[kobyz]

He's got to be a troll. no one over acts like this over a game.

Again you trying to act too cool to school, trying to undervalue it, it's obviously somthing more than just a game, it's something that hold an unmatched happiness, something that define whole life and destiny. But You seems like someone without soul so it shouldn't being regard to you tbh.

[Spurs7794]

I think its very ignorant to say we lost these two games for any thing specific. Yes Manu sucked in game 6 but for all intents and purposes, we won the game. Yeah Pop made some terrible decisions but we still HAD the game. It took 5 separate things to happen for us to get fucked over.

Thats the main reason this loss hurts...every other time we lost, I felt like the other team outplayed us. Here, the Heat were choking and we were the better team. Dumb luck just reamed us.

[ChumpDumper]

Again you trying to act too cool to school, trying to undervalue it, it's obviously somthing more than just a game, it's something that hold an unmatched happiness, something that define whole life and destiny. But You seems like someone without soul so it shouldn't being regard to you tbh.Eh, no.

It's a game.

[Spurs7794]

He's got to be a troll. no one over acts like this over a game.

I do think he's a troll but I think it would be hilarious if he was real. Makes me feel so much better about my reasonable fanaticism for the Spurs.

[xmas1997]

Again you trying to act too cool to school, trying to undervalue it, it's obviously somthing more than just a game, it's something that hold an unmatched happiness, something that define whole life and destiny. But You seems like someone without soul so it shouldn't being regard to you tbh.


Just how old are you because no adult acts this way.

[elmanutres]

I would think the Spurs would be favorites, just not heavy favorites, and especially so if they can sign Oden and he remains injury free!
we are never and have never been heavy favorites. Right now people are putting a james harden-less thunder team over us.

[therealtruth]

Sickens me seeing people scoff Parker for being injured.

Mm0BIFofRYk

We wouldn't have needed that if Pop hadn't blown the lead by resting TP and TD too much.

[baseline bum]

We wouldn't have needed that if Pop hadn't blown the lead by resting TP and TD too much.

Parker was resting because his hamstring was in horrible shape and he wasn't going to be able to play 45 minutes. The mistake was not having a short leash on Manu that game.

[Skull-1]

Basically.

VF84 Jolly Rogers in your avi?????? The helmet shows it all. That or VF-103?

VF-84, baby. :)

[Leetonidas]

You're talking about 1st-Team All-NBA member 37 year old Tim Duncan you ass. No shit he was by far the best player on our side, he is a top 8 player of all-time

[Leetonidas]

Parker had he not been hampered by the calf injury would've been close or better though, he had some huge balls when it mattered, too bad because the Parker haters could never talk shit again had the Spurs won

[Sean Cagney]

VF-84, baby. :)

Which Jet? F14A Tomcat? Thats a legendary squadron there.
Parker had he not been hampered by the calf injury would've been close or better though, he had some huge balls when it mattered, too bad because the Parker haters could never talk shit again had the Spurs won

Your damn right.

[Rogue]

Duncan has nothing to regret though, he has 4 rings as opposed to none (Karl Malone :cry). He would've possibly won more rings had he joined a big-market like LA but would've never got that much love and respect from LA people as he received in SA imho. It's like, some young adults feel sad about Zhuge Liang for joining Liu rather than Cao (who would've given him all resources he needed to kick asses all over the country) but Zhuge himself had never regretted that decision, because he had already got everything that he could ever imagine, and he knew Cao wouldn't be able to give him more.

[Marcus Bryant]

Fuck man the Spurs lost at the razor's edge. It's maddening, but shit like that happens. No amount of fantasy armchair GM moves is going to change that.

[racm]

ROFL... RC Buford lands Kawhi Leonard, you remember, the guy who kept hitting huge shots in the fourth in Game 7 of the Finals on the road to keep the Spurs in the game? He lands him with a mid first-round pick in a really weak draft. And the Spurs front office sucks? RC drafts a HOF point guard with the last pick of the first round. He sees something in undrafted Danny Green, Green sets the Finals record for most threes. And this is all an indictment of RC Buford????

Technically Green was a second round Cavs reject and Neal was the undrafted guy, but your point still stands.

[kobyz]

Just how old are you because no adult acts this way.

Act like what?

[dunkman]

Duncan was the best Spurs player in those games, but Kawhi was good as well and Parker played decently too. However, Manu was horrible in game 6. It seems he was too tired after the effort he put in game 5.

[xmas1997]

Act like what?

Act your age. You obviously haven't been a fan of the Spurs for very long if this was your worst heartbreak.

[Diego20]

This. TD is the main reason why Spurs have 5 championships. Spurs have ZERO without him. TD makes the FO look better than what they really are. TD helped Pop get into the HoF. TD and Kawhi carried in Games 6 & 7 but his stubborn coach and that broken down teammate of his with 8 turnovers flushed all his hard work down the toilet.

Spurs would have ONLY ONE ring without Manu and Tony.

[kobyz]

Act your age. You obviously haven't been a fan of the Spurs for very long if this was your worst heartbreak.

Are you stupid or just do yourself? This is obviously the biggest heartbreak and dissepoitment ever, not only for spurs, in all sport! And another thing you need to understand spurs before Duncan are not worth half as what they worth with duncan, Duncan is the spurs... And I'm a spurs fan since 99, waited for this moment 7 years, after all we been through, this season come to me as a dream out of the blu, after my head almost gave up on the idea that another ring is possible, it was something so surreal to me but also very real, like I tell before I touch and smell heaven and being so close for the unique and greatest happiness, until this cruel ending, and now I'm in the deepest abyss a human been can be, to fall like this is not something you can recover or move on from, forever you could not find peace with yourself.

[xmas1997]

Are you stupid or just do yourself? This is obviously the biggest heartbreak and dissepoitment ever, not only for spurs, in all sport! And another thing you need to understand spurs before Duncan are not worth half as what they worth with duncan, Duncan is the spurs... And I'm a spurs fan since 99, waited for this moment 7 years, after all we been through, this season come to me as a dream out of the blu, after my head almost gave up on the idea that another ring is possible, it was something so surreal to me but also very real, like I tell before I touch and smell heaven and being so close for the unique and greatest happiness, until this cruel ending, and now I'm in the deepest abyss a human been can be, to fall like this is not something you can recover or move on from, forever you could not find peace with yourself.

Like I said before, grow up and act your age

[ChumpDumper]

Are you stupid or just do yourself? This is obviously the biggest heartbreak and dissepoitment ever, not only for spurs, in all sport! And another thing you need to understand spurs before Duncan are not worth half as what they worth with duncan, Duncan is the spurs... And I'm a spurs fan since 99, waited for this moment 7 years, after all we been through, this season come to me as a dream out of the blu, after my head almost gave up on the idea that another ring is possible, it was something so surreal to me but also very real, like I tell before I touch and smell heaven and being so close for the unique and greatest happiness, until this cruel ending, and now I'm in the deepest abyss a human been can be, to fall like this is not something you can recover or move on from, forever you could not find peace with yourself.Then you should be dead.

Why aren't you dead?

[kobyz]

Like I said before, grow up and act your age

It doesn't relate to age, I will not fake, I will act like soppose in that situation.

[kobyz]

Then you should be dead.

Why aren't you dead?

My soul is dead.

[ChumpDumper]

My soul is dead.But not you.

Why are you not dead?

How are you still breathing?

How can you eat?

How can you post on a message board to relive your trauma?

[kobyz]

But not you.

Why are you not dead?

How are you still breathing?

How can you eat?

How can you post on a message board to relive your trauma?

Cause I'm not dead right now, my soul is dead... Stop being a child...

[ChumpDumper]

Cause I'm not dead right now, my soul is dead... Stop being a child...Your soul is dead over a basketball game and you are telling me to stop being a child?

:lol

If this is the worst thing that could possibly happen, you should be dead for realz.

You aren't so it isn't.

[Brunodf]

:nopeSpurs lost because the 37 yr old wasn't on the court...

[Spurs7794]

Are you stupid or just do yourself? This is obviously the biggest heartbreak and dissepoitment ever, not only for spurs, in all sport! And another thing you need to understand spurs before Duncan are not worth half as what they worth with duncan, Duncan is the spurs... And I'm a spurs fan since 99, waited for this moment 7 years, after all we been through, this season come to me as a dream out of the blu, after my head almost gave up on the idea that another ring is possible, it was something so surreal to me but also very real, like I tell before I touch and smell heaven and being so close for the unique and greatest happiness, until this cruel ending, and now I'm in the deepest abyss a human been can be, to fall like this is not something you can recover or move on from, forever you could not find peace with yourself.

Your grammar is immaculate. Also, the Spurs won 6 years ago so i don't know why you were waiting 7 years for the Spurs to win.

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs would have ONLY ONE ring without Manu and Tony.Tim Duncan has been out of his prime for quite awhile now so how many rings have Manu and Tony led the Spurs to since 2007?

Tim Duncan has had a renaissance these past two years so how far did we get in 2012 & 2013?

Do you see the trend? The Spurs have ZERO championships without Tim Duncan. Take those Spurs goggles off you.


This. TD is the main reason why Spurs have 5 championships. Spurs have ZERO without him. TD makes the FO look better than what they really are. TD helped Pop get into the HoF. TD and Kawhi carried in Games 6 & 7 but his stubborn coach and that broken down teammate of his with 8 turnovers flushed all his hard work down the toilet.

[kobyz]

Your soul is dead over a basketball game and you are telling me to stop being a child?

:lol

If this is the worst thing that could possibly happen, you should be dead for realz.

You aren't so it isn't.

again, it's not just a basketball game....

[ChumpDumper]

again, it's not just a basketball game....It is.

And you aren't dead, so it's not so bad.

[xmas1997]

Your soul is dead over a basketball game and you are telling me to stop being a child?

:lol

If this is the worst thing that could possibly happen, you should be dead for realz.


You aren't so it isn't.


:rollin
You really found the whole in this guys' argument.

[Skull-1]

Which Jet? F14A Tomcat? Thats a legendary squadron there.



Great squadron with a long heritage. Glad the Hornet boys picked up the mantle.

That pic isn't in a Tomcat though. Was taken with the RAF on an "exchange" tour.

[Johnny RIngo]

Spurs would have ONLY ONE ring without Manu and Tony.

lol at counting 2003 as a championship year for Parker/Manu. They were both mediocre role players that year. Spurs were a one-man team back - Duncan very clearly carried the team. Hell, you could replace Parker/Manu's production with dozens of other NBA role players and SA still would have won in '03.

[hater]

wrong. We lost because a 35 year old was BY FAR the worst player on the court.

[Skull-1]

wrong. We lost because a 35 year old was BY FAR the worst player on the court.

Exactly! Brilliant. Wish I had thought of that!

[TheGreatYacht]

lol at counting 2003 as a championship year for Parker/Manu. They were both mediocre role players that year. Spurs were a one-man team back - Duncan very clearly carried the team. Hell, you could replace Parker/Manu's production with dozens of other NBA role players and SA still would have won in '03.Well said. I've been telling these Manutards to quit saying that line of BS that "without TP and Manu, we have blah blah blah rings" because I'll just come back and tell them that without Timmy, we have ZERO rings.
wrong. We lost because a 35 year old was BY FAR the worst player on the court.https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SOrm4q4CkSA/UVuLzacEHOI/AAAAAAAAANw/cUbin_qEVd8/w400-h300-no/You+are+correct.jpg

[xmas1997]

Well said. I've been telling these Manutards to quit saying that line of BS that "without TP and Manu, we have blah blah blah rings" because I'll just come back and tell them that without Timmy, we have ZERO rings. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SOrm4q4CkSA/UVuLzacEHOI/AAAAAAAAANw/cUbin_qEVd8/w400-h300-no/You+are+correct.jpg

:deadhorse:troll

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

]Ginobili had a breakout performance in Game 5, of course, and was the catalyst in his team’s big win that has them just one game from an NBA title. But he had been essentially nonexistent in the series until this point, and despite his history with the franchise, the comments that outsiders were making regarding Ginobili’s play were beginning to bother some of the team’s core players.“Yeah, of course,” Parker said, when asked if he was upset with the level of negativity being lobbed in his teammate’s direction. “Because for everything he did for the franchise, I thought it was a little bit too harsh. We understand it’s a business, but he came out big tonight. I was very happy for him.”
Duncan was similarly irritated by the volume of harsh words directed at Ginobili.
“A tremendous amount,” Duncan answered, when asked how much the recent criticisms of Ginobili bothered him. “We’re not a team or an organization that kind of points fingers in that respect. I know it’s on the media to find out what’s wrong with everybody, what happened whatever game, but he’s such a huge part of what we do, and how far we’ve come. And you can see it tonight in how we played and the results of the game.
“So we’re always confident in him. We don’t look at the stats and say, hey, it’s his fault or his fault or his fault. We know he has it in him and we hope he can bring it for at least one more win.”
For his part, Ginobili seemed to grow increasingly aware of the mounting criticism, but tried to block it out as much as possible to focus on his next performance.
“I really don’t know exactly what was going on, but with so much media around, they ask you things that you are not used to answering,” Ginobili said. “So that’s when you realize you’re being criticized. But I really don’t read what’s going on. I knew that I was not scoring much, and I felt it in the air. But I tried not to care about it.
“I’m critical enough of myself to be worrying about what other people say. So as I was telling before, I was frustrated enough knowing how I played and what I could do better. So I really didn’t need to listen what other people were saying or be reading about it.”
The criticism may have bothered his teammates, and it may have even been justified. But all of that is behind Ginobili now, with his Game 5 performance being the main reason the Spurs are just one win away from another NBA title.



delusional fans. Doesn't matter if they were role players, role players win titles.

[Sean Cagney]

delusional fans. Doesn't matter if they were role players, role players win titles.

Too bad most did not show up in game 6 and 7 :( Either or we could have used a ROLE player like Horry or Barry on the team then to hit some shots and make plays, you are correct there role players are HUGE in winning a title.

[Brunodf]

Pop was outcoached by Spolstra

[Sean Cagney]

Pop was outcoached by Spolstra

Pop was outcoached by his own damn head, defeated himself in this one. He thinks too much and tries crazy lineups too often for my liking, instead of just sticking with what got the lead and what was working in the game.

[therealtruth]

Pop was outcoached by Spolstra

This. If Spoelstra doesn't make his lineup change the Spurs win the series.

[therealtruth]

Pop was outcoached by Spolstra

This. If Spoelstra doesn't make his lineup change the Spurs win the series in 5.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Well said. I've been telling these Manutards to quit saying that line of BS that "without TP and Manu, we have blah blah blah rings" because I'll just come back and tell them that without Timmy, we have ZERO rings. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SOrm4q4CkSA/UVuLzacEHOI/AAAAAAAAANw/cUbin_qEVd8/w400-h300-no/You+are+correct.jpg

So we could just put a bunch of little kids around Tim Duncan and he would win championships? You're basically telling us that Manu and TP are entirely worthless?

Irrationalism in it's prime; on full display by TGY!

[TheGreatYacht]

So we could just put a bunch of little kids around Tim Duncan and he would win championships? You're basically telling us that Manu and TP are entirely worthless?

Irrationalism in it's prime; on full display by TGY!So we could just put a bunch of subpar big men around Parker and Manu and they would win championships? You're basically telling us that Tim Duncan is entirely worthless?

Irrationalism in it's prime; on full display by dallasmavericklose!

[dallasmaverickslose]

So we could just put a bunch of subpar big men around Parker and Manu and they would win championships? You're basically telling us that Tim Duncan is entirely worthless?

Irrationalism in it's prime; on full display by dallasmavericklose!

They all needed each other to win championships. And in 1999 Duncan had The Admiral. Duncan is definitely the most notable player in our championship runs and playoff streak. But to say that everyone else is absolutely irrelevant to Timmy's success is insulting.

[Diego20]

They all needed each other to win championships. And in 1999 Duncan had The Admiral. Duncan is definitely the most notable player in our championship runs and playoff streak. But to say that everyone else is absolutely irrelevant to Timmy's success is insulting.

Oh no, TGY won't recognize the red part, TD did all by his own :lol.

[dallasmaverickslose]

Oh no, TGY won't recognize the red part, TD did all by his own :lol.

Unfortunately you are correct. I'm bracing myself for a bruceblitz reply from TGY

[xmas1997]

Don't fall for his (tgy) troll BS, you fall right into his trap!