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dallasmaverickslose
07-26-2013, 09:27 PM
File in, ladies and gentlemen.


Who's got NEXT? Jeff, that's who! Next year is going to be a revelation, ladies and gentlemen... :wow

TheGoldStandard
07-26-2013, 09:41 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/10qyj9g.jpg
Warming benches since 2013

Bill_Brasky
07-26-2013, 10:08 PM
Thread has potential.

exstatic
07-26-2013, 10:10 PM
http://cdn.madamenoire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/teddy-pendergrass.jpg

Kingsly Alexander
07-26-2013, 10:43 PM
Things should get interesting once preseason starts.

So all 14 contracts on are books are fully guaranteed then?

DJR210
07-26-2013, 10:53 PM
inb4 playjeff account

dallasmaverickslose
07-28-2013, 01:07 AM
Thread has serious potential.

mudyez
07-28-2013, 01:26 AM
Can Timmy defend his BPFOAT title?

dallasmaverickslose
07-28-2013, 09:15 AM
Can Timmy defend his BPFOAT title?

?

gnsf0946
07-28-2013, 11:16 AM
BPFOAT means best PF of all time

xmas1997
07-28-2013, 12:44 PM
BPFOAT means best PF of all time

Thanks, I was trying to figure it out too.

Darkwaters
07-28-2013, 12:49 PM
Thread has serious potential.

Probably. He'll have a huge game in like December against the Bobcats and this thread will get bumped and explode.

dallasmaverickslose
10-14-2013, 05:40 PM
Well... Too bad we traded him. :depressed

Dex
10-14-2013, 05:42 PM
Well... Too bad we traded him. :depressed

I have a feeling Jeff Ayres will be a better player for us than Jeff Pendergraph ever would have been.

FuzzyLumpkins
10-14-2013, 07:51 PM
Time for a reformation.

Sean88888
10-14-2013, 10:44 PM
I'm officially on board. He defends, rebounds and shoots well. As far as backup PF's go he's as good as they come. At that contract he's an amazing bargain. No wonder some Pacers FO people were angry they let him go.

NickiRasgo
10-14-2013, 10:48 PM
Hopefully I'm correct. He's like the PF Version of Tyson Chandler. Of course minus the length, strenth and atheleticism but the leadership and a team player.

exstatic
10-14-2013, 10:54 PM
I'm officially on board. He defends, rebounds and shoots well. As far as backup PF's go he's as good as they come. At that contract he's an amazing bargain. No wonder some Pacers FO people were angry they let him go.
I think they were hoping to get him on the cheap again.

Ice009
10-14-2013, 10:59 PM
I'm officially on board. He defends, rebounds and shoots well. As far as backup PF's go he's as good as they come. At that contract he's an amazing bargain. No wonder some Pacers FO people were angry they let him go.

Where did you read that the Pacers FO people were upset that he was let go?

Sean88888
10-14-2013, 11:08 PM
Where did you read that the Pacers FO people were upset that he was let go?

I can't remember now, I read it when he signed

cd98
10-15-2013, 06:34 AM
If the Pacers were upset, I'm surprised. They gave him a lowball offer to stay. Plus he hardly played for them and wasn't in the rotation during the playoffs.

Kasen
10-15-2013, 07:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxOpwuIdcY8

xmas1997
10-15-2013, 08:17 AM
I predicted he would be really productive for the Spurs. Glad he is starting to show it.

Ice009
10-15-2013, 08:41 AM
I can't remember now, I read it when he signed

That's cool, I was just asking that as I wasn't sure if you heard it from a random fan or read it in a proper article. Thanks.

MarCowMar
10-15-2013, 08:42 AM
Call it blasphemy but that highlight clip makes him look like a poor man's Duncan.

Maddog
10-15-2013, 11:32 AM
I really like the movement Keeps moving, also doesn't hold on to the ball like a lot of bigs.

Looks like he has been playing in the Spurs system for a while

boutons_deux
10-15-2013, 11:36 AM
Ayres and Belly Nelly appear to be really helpful additions.

Knoxxx
10-15-2013, 11:56 AM
I like his long wingspan and mid-range jumper, and apparent BB IQ. Since the knee injury doesn't seem like much the same dunker, but that fits right in with the Spurs.

jeebus
11-10-2013, 12:44 PM
I am personally burning this church down with all its members in it à la The Patriot.

will_spurs
11-10-2013, 05:38 PM
He's a scrub.

Trainwreck2100
12-07-2013, 10:53 PM
burn the damn church down and throw some cesium 137 on the ground so nothing can grow on the remains.

jeebus
12-07-2013, 10:56 PM
burn the damn church down and throw some cesium 137 on the ground so nothing can grow on the remains.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIzfSxISHY4

Replace the cardinal with Airs and we got ourselves a party.

exstatic
12-11-2013, 09:35 PM
Burn? Burn some incense, you heathens!!

SKINNYPIMP210
12-11-2013, 10:21 PM
I have to hand it to him, he did an excellent job tonight doing all the dirty work.

exstatic
12-11-2013, 10:31 PM
I have to hand it to him, he did an excellent job tonight doing all the dirty work.

...and he didn't miss any dunks.

SKINNYPIMP210
12-11-2013, 10:41 PM
...and he didn't miss any dunks.

Haha true!

spurraider21
12-11-2013, 10:49 PM
jeebus get in here

jeebus
12-11-2013, 10:53 PM
jeebus (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=22786) get in here
apparently getting rebounds against the worst team in the league automatically makes you worthy of a multi million dollar contract

Chinook
12-11-2013, 10:54 PM
By next game, the arsonists will be back.

exstatic
12-11-2013, 11:45 PM
apparently getting rebounds against the worst team in the league automatically makes you worthy of a multi million dollar contract

Worst team in the league is Utah.

playbonner15
12-12-2013, 04:27 AM
10 reb but 0 Pts? Against the Bucks scrubs???

ChumpDumper
12-12-2013, 04:50 AM
Bitch, bitch, bitch.

TheGoldStandard
12-12-2013, 08:38 PM
Ayres is D league material but gets so much burn from Pop it's sick

weeks
12-13-2013, 12:47 PM
Ayres is D league material but gets so much burn from Pop it's sick you give him that kinda money, probably feels obligated to play him

Bill_Brasky
12-13-2013, 12:57 PM
Bitch, bitch, bitch.

what right does Jeff have to play over baynes right now? baynes looks better(against scrubs, but jeff didn't look that great in his own right), he's been with the team longer(no corporate knowledge excuses) and he plays big. yeah it's kind of a silly debate to have but so is everything we talk about on this stupid forum. I really hope baynes earns that spot. we'll be a better team for it.

exstatic
12-13-2013, 02:43 PM
what right does Jeff have to play over baynes right now?

Pop fills out the lineup?

Even with Baynes nice game, he's still shooting like 38% to Ayres 45%.

ChumpDumper
12-13-2013, 03:05 PM
what right does Jeff have to play over baynes right now?Baynes' injury.

ABC
12-13-2013, 03:14 PM
Baynes' injury.

I missed it. What's the injury?

Bill_Brasky
12-13-2013, 03:35 PM
sprained ankle I believe.

look_at_g_shred
12-13-2013, 04:17 PM
35 + minutes tonight! Book it!

ABC
12-13-2013, 08:10 PM
sprained ankle I believe.

Thanks :toast He's listed as day to day, so it must be pretty mild.

Libri
12-13-2013, 09:12 PM
bump

He dunked.

What?

exstatic
12-13-2013, 09:51 PM
He also did a nice job of bangin with the much larger Pekovic when Tim went out with 2 fouls.

exstatic
12-13-2013, 10:42 PM
8 rebounds in 20 minutes against a solid front line. 1-1 on dunks.

Johnny RIngo
12-14-2013, 11:16 PM
:lol 0-4 against the Jazz tonight. Here's the Plus Minus numbers:

+23 Diaw
+14 Parker
+11 Leonard
+11 Baynes
+9 Belinelli
+9 Green
+7 Mills
+5 Duncan
+3 Manu
+1 Bonner
0 DeColo
-5 Joseph
-8 Ayres

Trainwreck2100
12-14-2013, 11:20 PM
firebomb the church then call an AC130 to lob 105mm shells at the remains

jeebus
12-14-2013, 11:22 PM
firebomb the church then call an AC130 to lob 105mm shells at the remains

:cry but he had 8 rebounds the other day :cry

Sean Cagney
12-15-2013, 03:33 AM
firebomb the church then call an AC130 to lob 105mm shells at the remains

Either that go back to NAM days and scorch it with Napalm.....

elemento
12-15-2013, 06:10 AM
Burn the church

Ayres is garbage.

Robz4000
12-15-2013, 07:19 AM
:lmao

SpursFan86
12-16-2013, 11:44 PM
Fuck Jeff Ayres.

tp2021
12-16-2013, 11:49 PM
Errors is as basic a bitch as they come. I'm waitin for his bitch-ass to start bobbling rebounds so there would be no reason to play him besides DNP-Old. He dropped yet another pass, and Boylen had a look of disgust on his face as Errors joined the huddle. I understand getting used to the system, but simply catching passes shouldn't be a problem for an NBA player. Not like this. Errors makes Stone-hands Elson look like Jerry freakin Rice.

PlayNando
12-16-2013, 11:49 PM
It is like a Jehovah's Witness church tbh.

marbles1991
12-17-2013, 12:29 AM
I would honestly rather have Bonner on the floor at this point than Ayres. I don't think Errors can defend any better than him honestly.

Ice009
12-17-2013, 09:14 AM
I would honestly rather have Bonner on the floor at this point than Ayres. I don't think Errors can defend any better than him honestly.

LOL that is a crazy statement, and what's worse, I might agree with you. Bonner might actually be preferable to this clown. Ayres has completely shit the bed! And on top of that, he's had more chances than a lot of players have gotten here.

exstatic
12-18-2013, 11:26 PM
Solid outing. 2-2 from the floor 3 rebounds and a steal in 11 minutes.

Stabula
12-18-2013, 11:32 PM
Ayers is a fucking basketball legend

exstatic
12-20-2013, 01:21 AM
11 minutes, 2-2 from the field, 5 rebounds.

Chinook
12-20-2013, 01:24 AM
If this was his average, people wouldn't be badmouthing him. Hopefully he gets to a point in which we can expect this from him night in and night out.

Holden_Caulfield
12-20-2013, 01:25 AM
where can i get a copy of his bible

exstatic
12-20-2013, 01:27 AM
If this was his average, people wouldn't be badmouthing him. Hopefully he gets to a point in which we can expect this from him night in and night out.

He's really had like one bad game in the last 5 or 6, and that one was preceded by 10 rebounds and then 9 rebounds.

Chinook
12-20-2013, 01:37 AM
He's really had like one bad game in the last 5 or 6, and that one was preceded by 10 rebounds and then 9 rebounds.

I've seen the improvement. But he was so terrible to start the year that each mistake he makes now is magnified. He still can't catch, and he looks like he doesn't know how to protect the rim. I want him to succeed, though, since his theoretical skillset is a great fit in the starting lineup. But he plays like a 26-years old rookie.

TheGoldStandard
12-20-2013, 01:39 AM
I stood in line to take communion and when I got to the front there was a guy wearing a silly hat handing out kool-aid and ritz crackers. The Kool-aid tasted funny

cd021
12-20-2013, 01:51 AM
I've seen the improvement. But he was so terrible to start the year that each mistake he makes now is magnified. He still can't catch, and he looks like he doesn't know how to protect the rim. I want him to succeed, though, since his theoretical skillset is a great fit in the starting lineup. But he plays like a 26-years old rookie.

That is a perfect description of him.

dallasmaverickslose
12-20-2013, 01:52 AM
Tbh this thread is an embarrassment... and what's worse is I made it :rollin

Chinook
12-20-2013, 02:01 AM
Tbh this thread is an embarrassment... and what's worse is I made it :rollin

I'm surprised Bruno hasn't locked it yet.

Libri
01-12-2014, 07:48 PM
Has dunked twice, deserves a bump.

fonzy16
01-12-2014, 07:51 PM
just got outrebounded by jj barea :(

exstatic
01-12-2014, 09:17 PM
just got outrebounded by jj barea :(

Negative cherry picking. 8 points 4/7, 7 rebounds in 19.5 minutes.

Stop the hate.

itzsoweezee
01-12-2014, 09:33 PM
He's played great the last few games. If he can keep it up, Jeff will be a great asset for the frontline.

HarlemHeat37
01-12-2014, 09:33 PM
If he continues to improve and build chemistry with the team, he could be a good 5th big, tbh..

Maddog
01-12-2014, 09:34 PM
Negative cherry picking. 8 points 4/7, 7 rebounds in 19.5 minutes.

Stop the hate.

Had a couple of good passes. Runs the floor well. better job at protecting the rim. I wonder if he was trying to hard earlier?

313
01-12-2014, 09:43 PM
His bad hands are what I hate the most. I suppose as he Continues to play he'll get sharper on rotations and stuff, but fumbling passes and blowing dunks are unacceptable.

HarlemHeat37
01-12-2014, 09:44 PM
His bad hands are what I hate the most. I suppose as he Continues to play he'll get sharper on rotations and stuff, but fumbling passes and blowing dunks are unacceptable.

That's why he should be a 5th big, tbh..

He has a great motor, he's always active, and he's a decent passer, but he doesn't have any actual NBA tools to be a rotation player IMO..

Chinook
01-13-2014, 04:02 AM
Looks like Waluigi.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3025/3008083325_ef3a0587f0.jpg

Reck
01-13-2014, 04:19 AM
I am personally burning this church down with all its members in it à la The Patriot.

Worth noting again.

cd021
01-13-2014, 10:14 AM
His rebounding is definitely an asset. He competes on the glass. He is starting to show remnants of being a decent player. Its not like he is going to play very much or at all in the post season. If healthy, Duncan Splitter, Diaw and Leonard and that's your 4-5 rotation.

Raven
01-13-2014, 10:26 AM
tbh i kinda like him in an odd way... i see some defensive potential, but he is still way to raw to rely on, i'm not concerned about his offense, but he is improving there as well. He needs to work hard and improve at everything, but the early shittiness seems to be past him.

Dex
01-13-2014, 10:42 AM
Jeff has really dug himself into a hole on the board, but he seems to be playing better as of late.

Not great, but serviceable for a 5th big, and doing all the things under the basket you'd want one to do: defending the paint, hitting the glass, going after offensive boards, and trying to finish strong.

He also gave up trying to shoot jumpers (thank God).

He has a ways to go and haters are going to continue to hate, but I'm not ready to dump on Errors yet.

G-Dawgg
01-13-2014, 10:47 AM
Ayers seems to be coming along a bit. He isn't trying to do too much, he plays hard and is physical. With the exception of the one game where missed 4 dunks, he seems to finish strong at the rim. Finally we have a frontcourt player that is not soft, plays defense, has athleticism, and seems to have some court smarts. He's a decenly rounded forward. Give him some burn and in time he'll do better

boutons_deux
01-13-2014, 10:59 AM
what have this guy and many similar guys been doing the past 10+ years that they are so bad at basketball fundamentals?

swaggerjackson
01-13-2014, 11:22 AM
Last night he looked pretty damn good. I wish he could work on his hands. I don't even know if that is possible, but I feel like if he could make solid catches instead of bobbling the ball he could go up stronger and obviously earlier. Also I can't help but think he should be rewarded more for running the floor. He is fantastic about getting out on the break, and I feel like people have flat out missed him when he gets ahead of the pack. I of course know the risk of getting him the ball too far away from the basket, but I think there is a little potential left in this guy. Lets hope his play of late continues.

UZER
01-13-2014, 11:25 AM
Ayers seems to be coming along a bit. He isn't trying to do too much, he plays hard and is physical. With the exception of the one game where missed 4 dunks, he seems to finish strong at the rim. Finally we have a frontcourt player that is not soft, plays defense, has athleticism, and seems to have some court smarts. He's a decenly rounded forward. Give him some burn and in time he'll do better

said it in another thread. As much as he sucked early on, he is showing signs of improvement. plus his toughness will come be very valuable in the playoffs when it gets in the trenches. Kinda looking forward to that. Need someone that's gonna lay the wood on opposing players....not your teammates wife.

TheGoldStandard
01-13-2014, 12:01 PM
He's positioning himself for a 36 million dollar contract

T Park
01-13-2014, 12:41 PM
Another thing people don't realize, this is the first time he's ever gotten consistent, every game minutes. Before he's just been stuck to a bench. Takes time to adjust to that as well. Be patient. He's markedly better already than he was a couple weeks ago.

T Park
01-13-2014, 12:43 PM
If he continues to improve and build chemistry with the team, he could be a good 5th big, tbh..

Gmafb. He's already better than Aron Baynes right now and hasn't spent half the time in the system Baynes has either.

HarlemHeat37
01-13-2014, 12:45 PM
Baynes isn't a special player, that's not saying much:lol..

If Ayres could make the mid-range jump shot, he could be a solid 4th big, but he hasn't shown any indication that he can shoot, tbh..he's shooting 25% on jump shots, so far, and they're ugly IMO..

T Park
01-13-2014, 12:49 PM
Baynes isn't a special player, that's not saying much:lol..

On this team he's the fourth big. At times he's better than splitter. To keep acting like the guy is jack Haley or some crap is ridiculous.

exstatic
01-13-2014, 12:50 PM
Last night he looked pretty damn good. I wish he could work on his hands. I don't even know if that is possible, but I feel like if he could make solid catches instead of bobbling the ball he could go up stronger and obviously earlier. Also I can't help but think he should be rewarded more for running the floor. He is fantastic about getting out on the break, and I feel like people have flat out missed him when he gets ahead of the pack. I of course know the risk of getting him the ball too far away from the basket, but I think there is a little potential left in this guy. Lets hope his play of late continues.

There was one time when Sean said he bobbled it last night against Minny when I swear he took a dribble to come up on the other side of the rim. They never did show a replay.

I think Ayres is probably the best P'n'R "roll" finisher on the club right now. Splitter has better hands, but throws up that soft ass shit that bounces out half of the time. Ayres either dunks the ball, or goes up for a strong layup off the glass, which I wish Splitter would do more often. Tiago tries for the perfect no glass layup, but when he gets bumped, it usually comes out.

exstatic
01-13-2014, 12:51 PM
Baynes isn't a special player, that's not saying much:lol..

If Ayres could make the mid-range jump shot, he could be a solid 4th big, but he hasn't shown any indication that he can shoot, tbh..he's shooting 25% on jump shots, so far, and they're ugly IMO..

He was shooting 25% on dunks at one point, so give it a chance. I don't think the Spurs would have signed him if they didn't think he could "pop" occasionally, instead of rolling to the hoop 100% of the time.

Seventyniner
01-13-2014, 01:04 PM
I don't think the Spurs would have signed him if they didn't think he could "pop" occasionally, instead of rolling to the hoop 100% of the time.

You mean because Splitter always rolls so he and Ayers can't share the floor? There's obv room in the Spurs' offense for a roll-only big, especially with a floor-spreader (Bonner or Diaw, Duncan when his jumper is on) beside him.

spurraider21
01-13-2014, 01:12 PM
Ayres has been improving, and a lot of that comes because Pop is giving him all the minutes he can handle even when playing poorly. I just don't understand why a guy like Baynes can't get the same treatment

HarlemHeat37
01-13-2014, 09:44 PM
I'll give Ayres some credit, he was absolutely terrific in the 3rd quarter tonight, outstanding defense against the best young big man in the league, tbh..

itzsoweezee
01-13-2014, 09:45 PM
The great play for Ayres has continued. This has been at least 4 straight games where he's looked really good.

jermaine
01-13-2014, 09:46 PM
I'm loving this nicca right now.

bklynspursfan
01-13-2014, 09:53 PM
Was only a matter of time, people gave up on this guy way too early.

timtonymanu
01-13-2014, 10:31 PM
Can't hate. He shut down Davis in the 3rd quarter.

313
01-13-2014, 10:36 PM
Ayres has been improving, and a lot of that comes because Pop is giving him all the minutes he can handle even when playing poorly. I just don't understand why a guy like Baynes can't get the same treatment
Pop gon pop ig

exstatic
01-14-2014, 12:02 AM
Pop gon pop ig
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/e2/e2d278c546432c8b0a30ce8982752deb56d0249aff996c9233 78fdf2524a5981.jpg

313
01-14-2014, 12:05 AM
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/e2/e2d278c546432c8b0a30ce8982752deb56d0249aff996c9233 78fdf2524a5981.jpg

Wha-.. what?

monkeypunk
01-14-2014, 12:25 AM
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/e2/e2d278c546432c8b0a30ce8982752deb56d0249aff996c9233 78fdf2524a5981.jpg

:lol

Prime Time
01-14-2014, 12:37 AM
I was one of the few users (Actually, I think I was the only user?) Who didn't think Ayres was as bad compared to what some people said. Some people thought Baynes/Bonner were a better option, others thought he would be below-average in the D-League :lol.

But I'm not going to lie, I didn't think he'd ever play THIS solid. Great stuff from Jeff.

quentin_compson
01-15-2014, 03:55 PM
Article on Jeff from PTR: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/1/15/5309124/jeff-ayres-is-a-spur

He really hasn't looked bad at all as of late. Let's hope this trend continues and Ayres somehow rediscovers his midrange jumper.

wildcardX
01-15-2014, 04:52 PM
Gmafb. He's already better than Aron Baynes right now and hasn't spent half the time in the system Baynes has either.

I agree, but I also wonder how much better Baynes would be given the same consistent playing time Ayres has had.

dallasmaverickslose
01-15-2014, 05:54 PM
Gmafb. He's already better than Aron Baynes right now and hasn't spent half the time in the system Baynes has either.

Baynes hasn't even gotten half the playing time Ayres has, even though he's been here well more than twice as long.

jermaine
01-15-2014, 08:36 PM
Im saying it again. Im feeling this Ayers nigga! I know its the Jazz, but he needs these games to get a better feel of the scheme. Im seeing what the seen in this frog nigga!

Libri
01-15-2014, 08:37 PM
Dude is having a dunk party.

Pako
01-15-2014, 08:39 PM
The last few games Ayres has been playing pretty well. He seem to understand the spacing and more aggressive on offense and defense. We'll see if he can keep up with this....

G-Dawgg
01-15-2014, 09:20 PM
I'm starting to really like watching Ayers on the court. I love how he tries to dunk everything, he's like a dunking machine.

DPG21920
01-15-2014, 09:39 PM
He has been awful on defense tonight IMO, but much better offensively. Hands have been good, finished strong and moving to the right spots. I would like the times he screens to be a little more crisp, but good tonight offensively.

To HH's point though, while it's nice to not miss dunks, his value will be hitting a jumper. If he can't do that, his upside is tremendously muted.

jermaine
01-15-2014, 10:06 PM
He has been awful on defense tonight IMO, but much better offensively. Hands have been good, finished strong and moving to the right spots. I would like the times he screens to be a little more crisp, but good tonight offensively.

To HH's point though, while it's nice to not miss dunks, his value will be hitting a jumper. If he can't do that, his upside is tremendously muted.
How he finishes at the rim. Can you imagine if he could hit the 15ftr somewhat consistently?? He'd be the 1st big off the bench I'd wanna see.

wildcardX
01-15-2014, 10:35 PM
Is he playing good enough to give him a cool nickname yet?

exstatic
01-15-2014, 10:42 PM
Is he playing good enough to give him a cool nickname yet?

He's got one already: Jeff Errors. :lol

Chinook
01-15-2014, 10:44 PM
Is he playing good enough to give him a cool nickname yet?

Green Giant

DMC
01-15-2014, 10:49 PM
It takes a shitty team like the Jazz to make Jeff look like Amare (for a few possessions on offense, forget defense).

ace3g
01-16-2014, 12:17 AM
Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)After struggles catching the ball this season, Jeff Ayres says he's been practicing with tennis balls thrown by Spurs' strength coach.


Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Ayres: "It's pretty hard to catch a tennis ball, but it's pretty close to catching a pass from Manu."


Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Ayres joked he never knew hands were so bad before joining Spurs: "I never had to worry about anybody passing me the ball in my NBA career.

Chinook
01-16-2014, 12:45 AM
I said this earlier. The Spurs have been spoiled by sure-handed bigs. The passes the guards make to the bigs are abnormal.

024
01-16-2014, 12:46 AM
Glad to see improvement. At least he's trying.

TheGoldStandard
01-16-2014, 12:48 AM
He has the right attitude and can poke fun of himself.. Just needs to keep improving but it's showing and it's paying off.

wildcardX
01-16-2014, 12:50 AM
He's got one already: Jeff Errors. :lol

Ok, ok we will stick with that. BUT......I'm going to keep "AYRWOLF" Jeff Ayres for some time in the future. Even has a theme song!! Not even Black Mamba has that.

Reck
01-16-2014, 04:20 AM
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Ayres joked he never knew hands were so bad before joining Spurs: "I never had to worry about anybody passing me the ball in my NBA career.

At least he knows why now.

Sean88888
01-16-2014, 11:16 AM
I told y'all he's gonna be good. I've been a fan since page 1 of this thread. Get in!

Dex
01-16-2014, 11:21 AM
I'll give this to Errors: when he does manage to get a grip on the ball, at least he doesn't go up weak with it.

I know he's blown quite a few dunks, but that's because he is always trying to take it right to the rim. I'd rather he have that mentality over Splitter's pussy-handed baby hooks.

Looking forward to seeing a few more of these, tbh:

http://i40.tinypic.com/scq1bk.gif

look_at_g_shred
01-16-2014, 01:30 PM
Looking solid lately.

ThaBigFundamental21
01-16-2014, 02:03 PM
He's got one already: Jeff Errors. :lol

Lol, just what I was gonna say.

ThaBigFundamental21
01-16-2014, 02:07 PM
The thing about Errors...if he improves just a bit, he will be a very good bench big. He goes to the rim with authority. His Defense needs work, too many times last night he was happy to let Utah go right by him to the rim. It seems as if he doesn't know how to get in front of a player and take a charge, or get positioning to play some D. Pop is the right coach for the job, though I'm not sure how much upside Errors has in that capacity. A jump shot would be huge as well. Though I realize this is asking quite a lot from a limited big. If he did all that he would be a hell of a player in general.

Dex
01-17-2014, 03:04 PM
An interesting tidbit from 48MOH:


Not only has it been a while since the Spurs featured an above-the-rim athlete of any kind, but they’ve long lacked a frontcourt player who can defend the pick-and-roll and range out to the stretch ‘fours’ that litter the NBA landscape. Ayres allows just .81 points per possession on 38.5 percent shooting to roll men that finish the play, which is 25th best in the NBA in that category, according to mySynergySports.

http://www.48minutesofhell.com/jeff-ayres-defense-dunks-spurs-nba

FuzzyLumpkins
01-18-2014, 02:16 AM
Ayers looked like shit against Portland.

exstatic
01-19-2014, 08:44 PM
12 points 4 rebounds, 2 paint finishes that were NOT dunks, one left handed, and a JUMPER.

SpursFan86
01-19-2014, 08:59 PM
425082600936333312

waisman
01-20-2014, 03:47 AM
I think Ayres is becoming good.
But , he is Jeff Errors.

FkLA
01-20-2014, 03:58 AM
I said this earlier. The Spurs have been spoiled by sure-handed bigs. The passes the guards make to the bigs are abnormal.

http://joshatkins.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/malik-rose.jpg

http://www.nba.com/media/mohammed_050228_320.jpg

Prime Time
01-20-2014, 06:05 AM
I wanted to give him the nickname Ayrebourne but then he missed 4 dunks.

ace3g
01-20-2014, 08:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfzqEHgF_84

ABC
01-22-2014, 08:01 PM
Ayres Offensive Rating minus Defensive Rating:

November: -12
December: +6
January: +21

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pendeje02/splits/2014/

waisman
01-23-2014, 02:58 AM
Ayres has physical strength .
But , Ayres has no brains .


Why he can not defense .

FireMicoHalili
01-23-2014, 06:39 AM
Well he knows the system that's the only thing he's got going. Probably slow to pick up

Chomag
01-23-2014, 07:05 AM
Likes to watch people rebound...

exstatic
01-26-2014, 01:45 PM
Uh huh!!

timtonymanu
01-26-2014, 02:49 PM
:lol Does this get bumped any time he has a nice dunk?

He was awful once again.

slick'81
01-26-2014, 02:51 PM
Dude is complete shit anyone who thought he was gonna be key to anything the spurs did this year has some really good crack in their pocket

Libri
01-28-2014, 09:16 PM
http://www.dialoginternational.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/26/emptypews.jpg

RD2191
01-28-2014, 09:18 PM
http://www.dialoginternational.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/26/emptypews.jpg
:lmao

TE
01-28-2014, 09:19 PM
A waste of height and really a waste of a roster spot. He's so fucking terrible I almost want him to play just to get a laugh, tbh.

Budkin
01-29-2014, 01:16 AM
Has to be one of the worst players in the NBA.

timtonymanu
01-29-2014, 01:18 AM
I'll bump this thread the next time he dunks or gets a rebound.

RD2191
01-29-2014, 01:22 AM
You can't teach his kind of hustle.

TheGoldStandard
01-29-2014, 01:24 AM
You can't teach his kind of hustle.

I bet he hustles really hard while taking a shit.

RD2191
01-29-2014, 01:26 AM
I bet he hustles really hard while taking a shit.
:lol

TheGoldStandard
01-29-2014, 01:27 AM
:lol

He sometimes gets too excited and misses the bowl completely.

Sean Cagney
01-29-2014, 01:44 AM
LOL at a CHURCH OF for this damn BUM... He doesn't even deserve a damn thread with his name on it.

apalisoc_9
01-29-2014, 01:46 AM
I bet he hustles really hard while taking a shit.

I bet he hustles really hard when Pop's pants is down.

313
01-29-2014, 01:49 AM
:lmao
I bet he hustles really hard when Pop's pants is down.

TheGoldStandard
01-29-2014, 01:53 AM
I bet he hustles really hard when Pop's pants is down.

Him and Bonner play a plus 1 minus 2 on Pop

weeks
01-29-2014, 04:52 AM
i hope boylen gets lined up against a wall and shot
it's no more than he deserves

jeebus
01-29-2014, 11:02 PM
He ran up the court.

Suck it, h:lolters.

HarlemHeat37
01-30-2014, 03:04 AM
:lol T Park, tbh..

Johnny RIngo
01-30-2014, 04:38 AM
Sad thing is exstatic or Dumpster will bump this thread the next time Ayres gets 5 rebounds.

jeebus
01-30-2014, 07:21 AM
Sad thing is exstatic or Dumpster will bump this thread the next time Ayres gets 5 rebounds.


Uh huh!!

jeebus
02-01-2014, 09:09 PM
uh huh!

Ayres got that rebound off the FT miss!

Trainwreck2100
02-01-2014, 10:02 PM
burn the church down start a terrorist training camp on the remains and send drones to kill the terrorists

Budkin
02-01-2014, 10:16 PM
uh huh!

Ayres got that rebound off the FT miss!

BOOYAH! :lol

ChumpDumper
02-01-2014, 11:52 PM
Decent game. Not much of an opponent but not turrble.

TJastal
02-02-2014, 01:11 PM
The problem with a guy like Ayres is he's just too small and the spurs are already carrying an undersized guy similar to him (Diaw). Why Pop doesn't put any effort into developing and using his 7 footers like Baynes for instance is mind boggling.

exstatic
02-02-2014, 01:25 PM
The problem with a guy like Ayres is he's just too small and the spurs are already carrying an undersized guy similar to him (Diaw). Why Pop doesn't put any effort into developing and using his 7 footers like Baynes for instance is mind boggling.

The problem with you is that you're stuck in the NBA of 10-15 years ago. Tim, himself, is a bit of a dinosaur. Big lumbering 7 footers are a bit of an oddity these days. Both Diaw and Ayres are currently "right sized" for power forwards.

Sean Cagney
02-02-2014, 01:39 PM
The problem with you is that you're stuck in the NBA of 10-15 years ago. Tim, himself, is a bit of a dinosaur. Big lumbering 7 footers are a bit of an oddity these days. Both Diaw and Ayres are currently "right sized" for power forwards.

Yes they are, the thing is though right sized or not Ayres is garbage :(

exstatic
02-02-2014, 01:43 PM
Yes they are, the thing is though right sized or not Ayres is garbage :(

But isn't he what everyone was crying for when Blair was playing? A bigger PF who can dunk and finish around the rim?

Be careful what you wish for.

TheGoldStandard
02-02-2014, 01:58 PM
But isn't he what everyone was crying for when Blair was playing? A bigger PF who can dunk and finish around the rim?

Be careful what you wish for.
I didn't know that catching the ball had to be included with that criteria. Plus he's such a pansy defensively

jeebus
02-02-2014, 02:02 PM
But isn't he what everyone was crying for when Blair was playing? A bigger PF who can dunk and finish around the rim?

Be careful what you wish for.
From what I read, people wanted a taller PF/C who could defend the paint and have decent footwork/hands on offense. Blair did have some sort of offense, even if it was thrown back in his face half the time. He was just too short. Pendergraph is basically a tall Gary Neal who can't shoot or pretend to dribble.

Sean Cagney
02-02-2014, 02:03 PM
But isn't he what everyone was crying for when Blair was playing? A bigger PF who can dunk and finish around the rim?

Be careful what you wish for.
I did want that but had no clue who Pendergraph was :lol

exstatic
02-02-2014, 02:18 PM
Basically, what it comes down to for these low bench guys is that they are discovered to be imperfect, and the board wants someone else, who they will discover is imperfect, and they want someone else..........

200 miles
02-02-2014, 02:42 PM
The problem with you is that you're stuck in the NBA of 10-15 years ago. Tim, himself, is a bit of a dinosaur. Big lumbering 7 footers are a bit of an oddity these days. Both Diaw and Ayres are currently "right sized" for power forwards.

Did you ever consider the possibility that the "Twin Tower model being replaced with smallball" philosophy is only implemented through LeBron's reign? Remember, before his first title in 2012, every NBA champ for the past decade or so had at least three 7-ft bigmen with one at PF. Even today, with the aftermath of Bynum's signing with Indiana, one could make a case for the Pacers being the absolute bar none favorite to dethrone the Heat, who have tremendous difficulty with big lineups, and win it all.

It is only through LeBron and Wade's sheer force of talent and will that have enabled the Heat to barely prevail over the established Twin Tower model and perhaps make this new Smallball model being the road to success as merely an illusion.

exstatic
02-02-2014, 02:53 PM
Did you ever consider the possibility that the "Twin Tower model being replaced with smallball" philosophy is only implemented through LeBron's reign? Remember, before his first title in 2012, every NBA champ for the past decade or so had at least three 7-ft bigmen with one at PF. Even today, with the aftermath of Bynum's signing with Indiana, one could make a case for the Pacers being the absolute bar none favorite to dethrone the Heat, who have tremendous difficulty with big lineups, and win it all.

It is only through LeBron and Wade's sheer force of talent and will that have enabled the Heat to barely prevail over the established Twin Tower model and perhaps make this new Smallball model being the road to success as merely an illusion.

It's not the just Heat. This has been inevitable since they changed the hand checking rules in 2004-2005. It just took a while to become institutionalized. Unless they change the rules again, it's here to stay.

I also think that advanced stats figured into it. Seven footers aren't that common, so if you can implement an offense based on quality 3 point shots, that is scoring as efficient as a Shaq level banger down in the post, with the bonus that the lane is unclogged for penetrating guards and wing players.

TJastal
02-02-2014, 03:02 PM
The problem with you is that you're stuck in the NBA of 10-15 years ago. Tim, himself, is a bit of a dinosaur. Big lumbering 7 footers are a bit of an oddity these days. Both Diaw and Ayres are currently "right sized" for power forwards.

Baynes is not a lumbering 7 footer, he's actually pretty mobile. And even besides that point, the problem comes in that Pop prefers these "right sized" power forwards playing out of position at center which turns the defense into swiss cheese. And teams are running layup / tip-in drills.

200 miles
02-02-2014, 03:24 PM
It's not the just Heat. This has been inevitable since they changed the hand checking rules in 2004-2005. It just took a while to become institutionalized. Unless they change the rules again, it's here to stay.

I also think that advanced stats figured into it. Seven footers aren't that common, so if you can implement an offense based on quality 3 point shots, that is scoring as efficient as a Shaq level banger down in the post, with the bonus that the lane is unclogged for penetrating guards and wing players.

That actually reminded me of the 2009 Orlando team that made it to the Finals but we all know of their fate. Although you may be right and convincing in that regard, but I must state that only history will truly convince me. The hand checking rules and advanced stats cover the entire season and, based on the number of games, would factor more into the regular season rather than the postseason which becomes much more post-oriented and hence more physical. History has shown me two things that lead to my stance: 1. the list of NBA champs who don't have LeBron or Wade (with exception to 2006 Heat team) and 2. the sudden rising of the Spurs as once-again contenders the moment Pop replaced Blair with Splitter in the lineup and the instant defensive impact it gave the Spurs.

Besides, in regards to the phrase "defense win championships", if there was ever a second component that needed to be included in that phrase, it would be rebounding. What better way could the Twin Tower model serve if not for that?

exstatic
02-02-2014, 04:15 PM
That actually reminded me of the 2009 Orlando team that made it to the Finals but we all know of their fate. Although you may be right and convincing in that regard, but I must state that only history will truly convince me. The hand checking rules and advanced stats cover the entire season and, based on the number of games, would factor more into the regular season rather than the postseason which becomes much more post-oriented and hence more physical. History has shown me two things that lead to my stance: 1. the list of NBA champs who don't have LeBron or Wade (with exception to 2006 Heat team) and 2. the sudden rising of the Spurs as once-again contenders the moment Pop replaced Blair with Splitter in the lineup and the instant defensive impact it gave the Spurs.

Besides, in regards to the phrase "defense win championships", if there was ever a second component that needed to be included in that phrase, it would be rebounding. What better way could the Twin Tower model serve if not for that?

It's just not that easy to find skilled 7 footers who WANT to play in the post. KG started that revolution. Everyone, even the tall ones, want to play facing the basket now. The pipeline is almost empty. It takes time to develop a quality big, and no one stays in school any more.

elemento
02-02-2014, 04:22 PM
Dude is garbage. 26 y/o player learning how to catch a ball, c'mon.

Burn this freaking church. He wasn't even worth a Crap Chapel in Vegas thread.

200 miles
02-02-2014, 05:02 PM
It's just not that easy to find skilled 7 footers who WANT to play in the post. KG started that revolution. Everyone, even the tall ones, want to play facing the basket now. The pipeline is almost empty. It takes time to develop a quality big, and no one stays in school any more.

Good point there. It seems now that the only decent and competent 7-foot interior players in the draft nowadays are #1 overall and that's in a draft every two or three years or so.

jeebus
02-05-2014, 07:45 PM
Penderfag shitting on jeebus with that free throw.

uh huh!

Texas_Ranger
02-05-2014, 07:47 PM
Release this piece of shit already

Johnny RIngo
02-05-2014, 10:11 PM
:lol plays 6 mins in a double overtime game. This D-League quality scrub was so bad, TD was forced to play 40 mins

Johnny RIngo
02-06-2014, 10:23 PM
1 pt and 4 rebounds tonight from Ayres. Amazing performance. Really stepped up in Duncan's absence.

jeebus
02-06-2014, 10:28 PM
I am personally burning this church down with all its members in it à la The Patriot.

SpursRock20
02-06-2014, 10:29 PM
Get rid of both him and Boylen

lofds
02-06-2014, 10:31 PM
It seems his catching practise with tennis balls still isn't working.....the dude can't catch to save his life.

TheGoldStandard
02-06-2014, 10:48 PM
Just the most useless player the Spurs have had for at least the last Decade.. I mean seriously.

exstatic
02-08-2014, 08:58 PM
Man up, bitches. He's killing it tonight.

Johnny RIngo
02-08-2014, 08:59 PM
Man up, bitches. He's killing it tonight.

A 6 pt/3 reb game against the Bobcats is gonna make us forget the 40 bad games he's had this year?

jeebus
02-08-2014, 09:08 PM
Nando outscored him. Patty outrebounded him. What are you so proud of? :lmao

timtonymanu
02-08-2014, 09:10 PM
One game doesn't change anything.

Spurs_Be_Beastin'
02-08-2014, 09:14 PM
He still sucks Tbh.
Tonight he wasn't terrible tho,
he actually looked like an NBA player

HI-FI
02-08-2014, 09:29 PM
i'll give him some props for tonight though, hopefully he builds from this performance.

bklynspursfan
02-08-2014, 09:36 PM
People love to hate :lol such high expectations for the 4th big man in our rotation. He played a fine game tonight. Box score doesn't tell the whole story, but I guess people still believe it does. Maybe he's had more bad games than good probably, but it's his first season here. He still gives us something we haven't had in terms of an athletic big man. His timing/chemistry will come with time.

exstatic
02-08-2014, 09:46 PM
I'm mostly just fucking with you people, because I don't understand you at all. I have NEVER hated any player wearing silver and black.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
02-08-2014, 09:47 PM
why is this thread being bumped?

timtonymanu
02-08-2014, 09:54 PM
People love to hate :lol such high expectations for the 4th big man in our rotation. He played a fine game tonight. Box score doesn't tell the whole story, but I guess people still believe it does. Maybe he's had more bad games than good probably, but it's his first season here. He still gives us something we haven't had in terms of an athletic big man. His timing/chemistry will come with time.

But shouldn't a 4th big at least look like an NBA player? Ayres has had one decent game where he played great defense on Anthony Davis. But he's done way more bad than good up to this point. Sorry, I'm just not convinced he should be in the rotation. We're 50 games in and he still hasn't looked any better. I was actually a believer of his to start the season fwiw.

exstatic
02-08-2014, 10:18 PM
why is this thread being bumped?

You just bumped it yourself.

bklynspursfan
02-08-2014, 10:21 PM
But shouldn't a 4th big at least look like an NBA player? Ayres has had one decent game where he played great defense on Anthony Davis. But he's done way more bad than good up to this point. Sorry, I'm just not convinced he should be in the rotation. We're 50 games in and he still hasn't looked any better. I was actually a believer of his to start the season fwiw.

He has at times. His biggest issue is fouling too much and i guess catching passes (though I think some of those passes are not put in a place that's ideal for him to catch) I just think he's going to be a project. When you look at his previous teams, he never averaged more than 10mpg. His per 36 numbers this year are not bad, it's just little things he's not picking up on.. Positioning on both ends at times, like i mentioned fouling (not going vertical), not being patient when he catches it in the paint. Tonight he at least displayed patience and went up and under instead of potentially going up in a crowd trying to dunk it. He's got the athleticism, but the BBIQ was probably not as high as we would like, considering what we are paying him. But they must see there's potential, and if he can continue to do what he did tonight and show patience and play solid defense, then it's a great investment. If not, then they'll cut their ties with him.

He's not a skilled player like Diaw or Belinelli, those guys play more with their mind then their athletic abilities. So they can be plugged in and play nearly flawlessly when they come to a system like ours. The same to a lesser degree of Splitter, cause even he struggled early on to pick up the system. Ayres is a guy who probably has relied on his ability to jump high and his height in this league and now he's learning there's a lot more to basketball. I just think if Pop & Co. can help him to utilize his physical talents and translate that to a higher BBIQ, he can be a very nice player for us. Tonight was a step in the right direction. Gotta start somewhere

timtonymanu
02-08-2014, 10:28 PM
Yeah, good points. I am hoping he will start to build on what little momentum he has but I just have a hard time seeing him contribute on a team that is going for a championship. If he can prove me wrong, I welcome it.

Budkin
02-08-2014, 10:38 PM
He touched the ball bitches! MVP!

FuzzyLumpkins
02-08-2014, 11:58 PM
He has at times. His biggest issue is fouling too much and i guess catching passes (though I think some of those passes are not put in a place that's ideal for him to catch) I just think he's going to be a project. When you look at his previous teams, he never averaged more than 10mpg. His per 36 numbers this year are not bad, it's just little things he's not picking up on.. Positioning on both ends at times, like i mentioned fouling (not going vertical), not being patient when he catches it in the paint. Tonight he at least displayed patience and went up and under instead of potentially going up in a crowd trying to dunk it. He's got the athleticism, but the BBIQ was probably not as high as we would like, considering what we are paying him. But they must see there's potential, and if he can continue to do what he did tonight and show patience and play solid defense, then it's a great investment. If not, then they'll cut their ties with him.

He's not a skilled player like Diaw or Belinelli, those guys play more with their mind then their athletic abilities. So they can be plugged in and play nearly flawlessly when they come to a system like ours. The same to a lesser degree of Splitter, cause even he struggled early on to pick up the system. Ayres is a guy who probably has relied on his ability to jump high and his height in this league and now he's learning there's a lot more to basketball. I just think if Pop & Co. can help him to utilize his physical talents and translate that to a higher BBIQ, he can be a very nice player for us. Tonight was a step in the right direction. Gotta start somewhere

His issues are much more than fouling and bad hands although those are problems. Before I get into this I do want to say that people are quite obviously used to modern day pussyball as they winch about fouls from bigs coming off the bench. Kurt Rambis, Jerome Kersey, and John Salley say all y'all are bitchmade. Moving on.

Ayers rotations are complete and utter shit in every way shape and form. They are also not getting better. For all of the talk of his ability to run and jump, it goes unsaid just how poor of a side to side athlete he is.

He is stiff in the hips and has issues moving from side to side and turning. He is the worst athlete on the roster in this regard including Bonner. He has trouble getting from the weakside to cut off penetration even when he diagnosis the play. He fouls because he is late and out of position as much as if not more for than any other reason.

He also uses awful technique. I scream at him time and again, game after game as he fails to even get his hands up when he does rotate or worse on basic pnr plays.

Ayers has no offensive game outside of doing the Oberto run to the front of the rim. This last game he got assists because it was Al Jefferson guarding him. Jefferson is worse than Ayers in guarding the rim. Watching him play off Ayers shaded towards the rim and still matador cutting Spurs for layups was one of the worst defensive efforts I have ever seen. My point though is that do not expect many repeat performances of this recent Hornets game.

His jump shot is awkward and shoots at a low percentage.

He has absolutely no post moves whatsoever. All told this allows teams to cheat off of him and teams that rotate well can use that to double the hell out of our other guys and cheat. Sure he sometimes gets free but good defense still takes advantage of him.

Sean Cagney
02-09-2014, 12:00 AM
His issues are much more than fouling and bad hands although those are problems. Before I get into this I do want to say that people are quite obviously used to modern day pussyball as they winch about fouls from bigs coming off the bench. Kurt Rambis, Jerome Kersey, and John Salley say all y'all are bitchmade. Moving on.

Ayers rotations are complete and utter shit in every way shape and form. They are also not getting better. For all of the talk of his ability to run and jump, it goes unsaid just how poor of a side to side athlete he is.

He is stiff in the hips and has issues moving from side to side and turning. He is the worst athlete on the roster in this regard including Bonner. He has trouble getting from the weakside to cut off penetration even when he diagnosis the play. He fouls because he is late and out of position as much as if not more for than any other reason.

He also uses awful technique. I scream at him time and again, game after game as he fails to even get his hands up when he does rotate or worse on basic pnr plays.

Ayers has no offensive game outside of doing the Oberto run to the front of the rim. This last game he got assists because it was Al Jefferson guarding him. Jefferson is worse than Ayers in guarding the rim. Watching him play off Ayers shaded towards the rim and still matador cutting Spurs for layups was one of the worst defensive efforts I have ever seen. My point though is that do not expect many repeat performances of this recent Hornets game.

His jump shot is awkward and shoots at a low percentage.

He has absolutely no post moves whatsoever. All told this allows teams to cheat off of him and teams that rotate well can use that to double the hell out of our other guys and cheat. Sure he sometimes gets free but good defense still takes advantage of him.

This in a nutshell! HE SUCKS.

TJastal
02-09-2014, 07:25 AM
Ayers has no offensive game outside of doing the Oberto run to the front of the rim.

But when he does make that mad dash to the rim, he runs damn fast. Like a prime DRob. I think he might even be a smidgeon faster.

jeebus
02-09-2014, 08:21 AM
But when he does make that mad dash to the rim, he runs damn fast. Like a prime DRob. I think he might even be a smidgeon faster.
Not sure if serious or just copypasting...

TJastal
02-09-2014, 08:25 AM
Not sure if serious or just copypasting...

My tongue was planted so firmly I may need a surgeon to remove it from my cheek.

jeebus
02-09-2014, 08:40 AM
My tongue was planted so firmly I may need a surgeon to remove it from my cheek.
:lol thought so

bklynspursfan
02-09-2014, 12:46 PM
His issues are much more than fouling and bad hands although those are problems. Before I get into this I do want to say that people are quite obviously used to modern day pussyball as they winch about fouls from bigs coming off the bench. Kurt Rambis, Jerome Kersey, and John Salley say all y'all are bitchmade. Moving on.

Ayers rotations are complete and utter shit in every way shape and form. They are also not getting better. For all of the talk of his ability to run and jump, it goes unsaid just how poor of a side to side athlete he is.

He is stiff in the hips and has issues moving from side to side and turning. He is the worst athlete on the roster in this regard including Bonner. He has trouble getting from the weakside to cut off penetration even when he diagnosis the play. He fouls because he is late and out of position as much as if not more for than any other reason.

He also uses awful technique. I scream at him time and again, game after game as he fails to even get his hands up when he does rotate or worse on basic pnr plays.

Ayers has no offensive game outside of doing the Oberto run to the front of the rim. This last game he got assists because it was Al Jefferson guarding him. Jefferson is worse than Ayers in guarding the rim. Watching him play off Ayers shaded towards the rim and still matador cutting Spurs for layups was one of the worst defensive efforts I have ever seen. My point though is that do not expect many repeat performances of this recent Hornets game.

His jump shot is awkward and shoots at a low percentage.

He has absolutely no post moves whatsoever. All told this allows teams to cheat off of him and teams that rotate well can use that to double the hell out of our other guys and cheat. Sure he sometimes gets free but good defense still takes advantage of him.

Yea I'm not saying I disagree with any of this. I was simply trying to hint at that was the kind of player he was and has been in the league. So it will take time to get him to where he can be effective in our system. And if he turns out to not be, then the Spurs I'm sure (hopefully) will do whats necessary and move on. I mean for his size and athleticism, it's rare for us to have someone like that. Why not gamble on him and see if he can be molded into something more? I know some people were willing to take a gamble on Oden for example, I don't see the harm in gambling with a big who actually plays consistently. His offense should be the last thing to focus on, IMO he should focus on being more of a Tyson Chandler kind of player, trying to defend a large area, rebounding, changing shots, etc... It's frustrating when he doesn't hustle for those 50/50 balls at times, (maybe it's his T-Rex arms idk...) but I just don't think there's that much wrong with trying to develop a guy during the season. If he doesn't pan out or hasn't grasped our philosophies, then I would have to imagine Pop will not include him in the playoff rotation or will play him very sparingly.

TJastal
02-09-2014, 05:45 PM
Yea I'm not saying I disagree with any of this. I was simply trying to hint at that was the kind of player he was and has been in the league. So it will take time to get him to where he can be effective in our system. And if he turns out to not be, then the Spurs I'm sure (hopefully) will do whats necessary and move on. I mean for his size and athleticism, it's rare for us to have someone like that. Why not gamble on him and see if he can be molded into something more? I know some people were willing to take a gamble on Oden for example, I don't see the harm in gambling with a big who actually plays consistently. His offense should be the last thing to focus on, IMO he should focus on being more of a Tyson Chandler kind of player, trying to defend a large area, rebounding, changing shots, etc... It's frustrating when he doesn't hustle for those 50/50 balls at times, (maybe it's his T-Rex arms idk...) but I just don't think there's that much wrong with trying to develop a guy during the season. If he doesn't pan out or hasn't grasped our philosophies, then I would have to imagine Pop will not include him in the playoff rotation or will play him very sparingly.

A guy with the speed and athleticism of prime DRob should have no problem becoming the next Tyson Chandler. :tu

exstatic
02-09-2014, 07:40 PM
Yea I'm not saying I disagree with any of this. I was simply trying to hint at that was the kind of player he was and has been in the league. So it will take time to get him to where he can be effective in our system. And if he turns out to not be, then the Spurs I'm sure (hopefully) will do whats necessary and move on. I mean for his size and athleticism, it's rare for us to have someone like that. Why not gamble on him and see if he can be molded into something more? I know some people were willing to take a gamble on Oden for example, I don't see the harm in gambling with a big who actually plays consistently. His offense should be the last thing to focus on, IMO he should focus on being more of a Tyson Chandler kind of player, trying to defend a large area, rebounding, changing shots, etc... It's frustrating when he doesn't hustle for those 50/50 balls at times, (maybe it's his T-Rex arms idk...) but I just don't think there's that much wrong with trying to develop a guy during the season. If he doesn't pan out or hasn't grasped our philosophies, then I would have to imagine Pop will not include him in the playoff rotation or will play him very sparingly.
People just makin' shit up. His wingspan is 7'1".

bklynspursfan
02-09-2014, 09:00 PM
People just makin' shit up. His wingspan is 7'1".

Really? Wow... Looking at the guy I would've never guessed that

exstatic
02-10-2014, 09:06 PM
Baynes is fucking trash. He got his shit pushed EVERY time he tried a layup or hook tonight. At least Ayres was able to finish at the rim.

exstatic
02-10-2014, 09:10 PM
:lol Banger got it pushed again...by Kyle fucking Singler.

Johnny RIngo
02-10-2014, 09:13 PM
Baynes is fucking trash. He got his shit pushed EVERY time he tried a layup or hook tonight. At least Ayres was able to finish at the rim.

Baynes is D-League trash and paid like it. Problem is Ayres is the same but promised 3.5 mil from the Spurs. The gap between these two and Diaw is like a canyon. Neither belongs on an NBA team.

exstatic
02-10-2014, 09:20 PM
They are just KILLING us on P'n'R switches with Baynes. They're getting like 7 foot jumpers.

Johnny RIngo
02-10-2014, 09:28 PM
They are just KILLING us on P'n'R switches with Baynes. They're getting like 7 foot jumpers.

Don't know what game you're watching seeing as Ayres sucks too. Can't rebound(1 board in 12 minutes) or catch the ball. Like I said, neither is NBA quality.

jeebus
02-10-2014, 09:53 PM
8 meaningless points, a rebound, 2 turnovers, 5 fouls for the shittiest player to ever play the game.


uh huh!!

exstatic
02-10-2014, 09:55 PM
8 meaningless points, a rebound, 2 turnovers, 5 fouls for the shittiest player to ever play the game.


uh huh!!

:lol He's not even the shittiest big on our roster.

jeebus
02-10-2014, 09:59 PM
:lol He's not even the shittiest big on our roster.
He's the shittiest big in the league.

exstatic
02-10-2014, 10:17 PM
He's the shittiest big in the league.

Nope. Not even on our team. THAT much was made clear tonight when Baynes was "freed". :lol

TheGoldStandard
02-10-2014, 10:19 PM
Jeff needs to have a Clorox cocktail

jeebus
02-12-2014, 08:04 PM
uh huh!

Spurs_Be_Beastin'
02-12-2014, 09:46 PM
Errors should go play in traffic tbh

jeebus
02-12-2014, 09:46 PM
Our Savior had a rebound tip this game, shitting on all the uh huh haters out there.

Pop deserves a 300% pay increase for freeing The Most Athletic Big Man Since David Robinson at the beginning of the season.

timtonymanu
02-12-2014, 09:52 PM
He already looks like the bigger better version of Malik Rose.

HI-FI
02-12-2014, 09:53 PM
Our Savior had a rebound tip this game, shitting on all the uh huh haters out there.

Pop deserves a 300% pay increase for freeing The Most Athletic Big Man Since David Robinson at the beginning of the season.
the moment at which Ayres finally catches a ball, and jeebus sees the light....
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/fc/0a/5a/fc0a5a3e14b7663984fd2aac44cf8c53.jpg

Johnny RIngo
02-12-2014, 09:54 PM
+18 Duncan
+18 Diaw
+17 Marco
+16 Green
+15 Joseph
+4 Brown
-1 Mills
-5 Bonner
-7 Ayres
-15 Decolo

jeebus
02-12-2014, 10:01 PM
the moment at which Ayres finally catches a ball, and jeebus sees the light....
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/fc/0a/5a/fc0a5a3e14b7663984fd2aac44cf8c53.jpg

But until then, everytime I see Penderfaggot come in the game, it's....

http://i.imgur.com/g12KOV8.gif

HI-FI
02-12-2014, 10:03 PM
:lol
lil yoda, not impressed.

Mugen
02-12-2014, 10:31 PM
Jeff Ayres is the worst big I've seen in the league since Jeff Pendergraph tbh. Just a terrible, terrible, terrible basketball player.

RD2191
02-12-2014, 10:32 PM
Jeff Ayres is the worst big I've seen in the league since Jeff Pendergraph tbh. Just a terrible, terrible, terrible basketball player.
:lol

lofds
02-12-2014, 10:40 PM
How can a professional athlete not be able to catch a damn ball? Little kids can catch!

TheGoldStandard
02-12-2014, 10:56 PM
"He then switched to Jeff Pendergraph while in elementary school when his mother married his stepfather, who is apparently no longer a part of Pendergraph’s life. From there, Ayres decided to go through the process of taking his biological father’s name after he and his wife had a daughter in June."

The step-father saw how shitty he was at catching and didn't want any part of that shit. Subsequently once his biological father saw how shitty he was he tried to convince him to change it to Orcutt, the mothers maiden name.. His biological father is no longer in the picture either..

TheGoldStandard
02-12-2014, 10:59 PM
http://i59.tinypic.com/5mcsqb.jpg

Jeff Ayres signature baseball glove.. He was a two sport athlete

DeadlyDynasty
02-12-2014, 10:59 PM
Can you name 5 worse players in the league than this scrub? Dude wouldn't even make this years Laker team.

The only name that comes close is Baynes.

Mugen
02-12-2014, 11:02 PM
Can you name 5 worse players in the league than this scrub? Dude wouldn't even make this years Laker team.

The only name that comes close is Baynes.

Baynes while equally as terrible makes less than half on a shorter contract than Errors. Him and Boylan with the Homeland style con on Greggory tbh.

jeebus
02-12-2014, 11:20 PM
Baynes while equally as terrible makes less than half on a shorter contract than Errors. Him and Boylan with the Homeland style con on Greggory tbh.

Baynes gets scrub minutes and has been in the league for less than a year. Ayres gets minutes every game and has been playing since 2:lol:lol9. The Shitstain is above and beyond the worst player in the league.

MeloHype
02-12-2014, 11:24 PM
Ayres sucks at the game of basketball

Budkin
02-13-2014, 02:01 AM
Can you name 5 worse players in the league than this scrub? Dude wouldn't even make this years Laker team.

The only name that comes close is Baynes.

I honestly don't know how he is in the league let alone how he is being paid by the Spurs.

Sean Cagney
02-13-2014, 03:45 AM
I honestly don't know how he is in the league let alone how he is being paid by the Spurs.

He is our next shit player to be here for years and we have NO CLUE WHY! That damn bum will get an extension, trust me.

Jwash_1986
02-13-2014, 04:05 PM
It's his first year I want to at least give him one more year before I slam dunk him. But he looks lost as fuck and can't cry the ball. His jump shot he had before doesn't exist.