Combine any 2 players in NBA History...

[King Nupe]

What two players could you combine to make the ultimate player? They have to play the same position

I would combine Shaq and Pau Gasol.

Unstoppable. No hack a shaq, super athletic. Only weakness would be defense.

[AchillesHeel]

Shaq + Dirk tbh, Imagine being as dominant as Shaq on the inside and from 3pt land + having post game to shoot fadeaways over anyone

defense would be average-ish but who cares

[King Nupe]

Dirk didn't play Center. So you can't use him. You could say Dirk and Duncan. Excellent Shooting, Excellent Defense.

[AchillesHeel]

ok then Shaq + Bargnani :lol

[Sportcamper]

Wilt and Magic...

[2pac > Kobe]

lebron and the truth

[Clipper Nation]

LeBron + Bird

[whitemamba]

Wilt chamberlin/ magic johnson

[Juggity]

Wilt chamberlin/ magic johnson

I don't know if that player would be as effective as either of those 2 players individually given their different styles of play.

Magic was pass-first, Wilt was shoot-first. What kind of a player would that make? Would they be a PG or a C? Athletic scorer or crafty passer? No one can be both the guy who always passes, and the guy who receives the passes to finish.

[resistanze]

:lol MFers he said they have to play the same position

[resistanze]

LeBron + Bird

Ding Ding Ding.

Steve Nash and Gary Payton?

[Kai]

LeBron and MJ

[Rogue]

Dirk + malone would be just as deadly as Shaq + Pau (or whoever else). With Dirk's skillset/mindset and Malone's physique dude would dominate the league with ease imho

[spurraider21]

why people put shaq ahead of wilt baffles me. i'll take the 50ppg 25rbg and occasionally leading the league in assists over shaq anyday. wilt + dirk would be pretty nasty. it seems you take any dominant big and add dirk/bird and you have a winner.

[whitemamba]

why people put shaq ahead of wilt baffles me. i'll take the 50ppg 25rbg and occasionally leading the league in assists over shaq anyday. wilt + dirk would be pretty nasty. it seems you take any dominant big and add dirk/bird and you have a winner.

i didnt necessarily, but wilt and russell were those kinds of players that were ahead of the rest, easy for them to dominate. Shaq played in years where the competition was high all around, and he still dominated. Thats why people put shaq above them imho.

[Chief Brody]

Oliver Miller and Bill Wennington

[Bynumite]

Bosh + Collins = Duncan

[Ashy Larry]

I would combine Leonard and Ginobili at the SF. Unstoppable. They stopped the Spurs from a title.

[whitemamba]

I would combine Leonard and Ginobili at the SF. Unstoppable. They stopped the Spurs from a title.

:lol

[spurraider21]

i didnt necessarily, but wilt and russell were those kinds of players that were ahead of the rest, easy for them to dominate. Shaq played in years where the competition was high all around, and he still dominated. Thats why people put shaq above them imho.

shaq dominated an era where the best center besides him was Ben Wallace tbh. The competition he faced in the Finals (when he won and was considered the dominant force) were Smits, old Mutombo, Todd MacCulloch, and Eric Dampier. Who were the league's best centers in the early-mid 2000's. Sabonis, Divac, Robinson, Mutombo were all pretty old. Thats why I never understood people that write off Wilt for his lack of competition but then hold Shaq so high up. From 92-97, Shaq struggled against the likes if Robinson/Olajuwon. In head to head matchups, they would get the better of him both in the win column and in the box score stats. Shaq started pounding on them when they aged and Robinson's body started breaking down. TOSB Wilt would hold his own against Alcindor though

[benefactor]

Paul Pierce and Bruce Bowen

[whitemamba]

shaq dominated an era where the best center besides him was Ben Wallace tbh. The competition he faced in the Finals (when he won and was considered the dominant force) were Smits, old Mutombo, Todd MacCulloch, and Eric Dampier. Who were the league's best centers in the early-mid 2000's. Sabonis, Divac, Robinson, Mutombo were all pretty old. Thats why I never understood people that write off Wilt for his lack of competition but then hold Shaq so high up. From 92-97, Shaq struggled against the likes if Robinson/Olajuwon. In head to head matchups, they would get the better of him both in the win column and in the box score stats. Shaq started pounding on them when they aged and Robinson's body started breaking down. TOSB Wilt would hold his own against Alcindor though

Alll those guys u mentioned were good centers... in shaqs early years, yeah he struggled, what rookies and sophs dont... he started tearing ass holes apart just a few years in the league.. Divac/ Sabonis/ Smits / all were legit.

[spurraider21]

Alll those guys u mentioned were good centers... in shaqs early years, yeah he struggled, what rookies and sophs dont... he started tearing ass holes apart just a few years in the league.. Divac/ Sabonis/ Smits / all were legit.

they were, but they are all TOSB when they were up against Shaquille

[whitemamba]

they were, but they are all TOSB when they were up against Shaquille

i wouldnt quite go with TOSB status, but aging sure.

[Katherine Robinson]

Give Charles Barkley the physique of Shaq and keep their bodyfat in check, you would have a player capable of destroying entire teams by himself.

[Boomersgold]

Kareem and Dwight Howard. Kareem's offensive post game and defensive dominance plus the media exposure that Dwight gets, and we get the GOAT.

[TDMVPDPOY]

KAREEM/RUSSEL

could care less about 3pt shooting for a big man, you are forcing him to take low %shots while not taking advantage of his inside game....

[AchillesHeel]

KAREEM/RUSSEL

could care less about 3pt shooting for a big man, you are forcing him to take low %shots while not taking advantage of his inside game....


It's not a low % shot if you're a 3pt specialist and wide open, gives the opportunity to space the floor for others when needed, don't need to shoot 3s every game, jut having that weapon in your arsenal is great. Combining Kareem and Russell you get a horrible FT shooter with Pau Gasol's offensive game (Russell was that bad on O) but with Ben Wallace/Zo defense. Not a bad combo, but a big man that has no outside game and is a bad ft shooter is a liability at the end of games. I'd want my big man to be able to shoot, opens up the floor in so many ways + no hack tactics for the other team, if your big man is a 55-60% FT shooter he's a bad option when you need a basket to win a game. It's usually why bigs like Shaq always needed the best perimeter scorers in Penny,Kobe,Wade and Lebron(though they didn't win shit).

Imagine if Dwight Howard had post game and a mid-range shot, he'd be the best player in the league. Already a 20 point 15 reb 3 blk threat without solid offensive game..tbh

[irishock]

Howard+Kemp

[rayjayjohnson]

MJ and Kobe.

so much bitch made, so little time.

[SpursBills]

lebron + bird

lebron: athletic freak, shaky jump shot, decent in the clutch
bird: not athletic, great shooter, clutch as fuck, one of the smartest players ever

combine the two and you have a player with no weaknesses

[Thread]

bird: not athletic, great shooter, clutch as fuck, one of the smartest players ever

Please. He let Magic take his pants down & neutralize his manhood. I suppose Magic did it under the guise peace & harmony, but, he's only one of the two to ever ring again once the peace pipe was smoked.

tee, hee.

[Kyle Orton]

Yao Ming and shaq

[AchillesHeel]

T-Mac and Lebron tbh

[SpursBills]

Please. He let Magic take his pants down & neutralize his manhood. I suppose Magic did it under the guise peace & harmony, but, he's only one of the two to ever ring again once the peace pipe was smoked.

tee, hee.

no player is infallible. magic let '84 get away from him. just like that does not diminish him, i don't think '85 or '87 diminishes bird in any way.

[King Nupe]

It's not a low % shot if you're a 3pt specialist and wide open, gives the opportunity to space the floor for others when needed, don't need to shoot 3s every game, jut having that weapon in your arsenal is great. Combining Kareem and Russell you get a horrible FT shooter with Pau Gasol's offensive game (Russell was that bad on O) but with Ben Wallace/Zo defense. Not a bad combo, but a big man that has no outside game and is a bad ft shooter is a liability at the end of games. I'd want my big man to be able to shoot, opens up the floor in so many ways + no hack tactics for the other team, if your big man is a 55-60% FT shooter he's a bad option when you need a basket to win a game. It's usually why bigs like Shaq always needed the best perimeter scorers in Penny,Kobe,Wade and Lebron(though they didn't win shit).

Imagine if Dwight Howard had post game and a mid-range shot, he'd be the best player in the league. Already a 20 point 15 reb 3 blk threat without solid offensive game..tbh


40% Is low compared to 98% faggot...

[King Nupe]

lebron + bird

lebron: athletic freak, shaky jump shot, decent in the clutch
bird: not athletic, great shooter, clutch as fuck, one of the smartest players ever

combine the two and you have a player with no weaknesses


MAN to Man defense would still be weak...

[Thread]

i don't think '85 or '87 diminishes bird in any way.

I'll just bet you don't.

[Rogue]

T-Mac and Lebron tbh
T-Mac + Lebron = Lebron imho. The Kang thoroughly overshadows T-Mac

[Arnold Toht]

T-Mac + Lebron = Lebron imho. The Kang thoroughly overshadows T-Mac

At least his game would be watchable if you insert some of TMac's smoothness into LeBron's game.

[stomp]

steph curry nd tim duncan

[Thread]

made layup & tim duncan

tee, hee, beezer. tee, hee.

[SpursBills]

I'll just bet you don't.

still don't understand why you're in this thread, since you don't do any other attribute besides rings. although i guess your answer to the original thread topic would be "bill russell + tommy heinsohn", which must be hard to admit as a lakers fan

[JamStone]

shaq dominated an era where the best center besides him was Ben Wallace tbh. The competition he faced in the Finals (when he won and was considered the dominant force) were Smits, old Mutombo, Todd MacCulloch, and Eric Dampier. Who were the league's best centers in the early-mid 2000's. Sabonis, Divac, Robinson, Mutombo were all pretty old. Thats why I never understood people that write off Wilt for his lack of competition but then hold Shaq so high up. From 92-97, Shaq struggled against the likes if Robinson/Olajuwon. In head to head matchups, they would get the better of him both in the win column and in the box score stats. Shaq started pounding on them when they aged and Robinson's body started breaking down. TOSB Wilt would hold his own against Alcindor though

History has a funny way of rewriting itself through the pen that is people's memories.

From 1992-97:

Shaquille v. Hakeem (Shaq 8 wins, Hakeem 2)

Shaq: 23.3 PPG, 13.9 RPG, 56.2% FG
Dream: 23.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 45.1% FG

Shaquille v. David Robinson (Shaq 3 wins, David 5)

Shaq: 26.4 PPG, 13.5 RPG, 50.9% FG
D-Rob: 29.1 PPG, 12.3 RPG, 51.0% FG


Shaq may have had varying degrees of success at times against those guys in one game or another, but he far from struggled against them. At the very least, he held his own. Especially with Hakeem, I think people assumed Hakeem dominated Shaq because of the 1995 NBA Finals. But truth is, even in the Finals, Shaq held his own. I know Shaq has stated Hakeem whooped his butt. But truth is, their match-up was pretty close:

1995 NBA Finals:

Shaq: 28 PPG, 12.5 RPG, 59.5% FG
Dream: 32.8 PPG, 11.5 RPG, 48.3% FG


And it's not like Shaq only started dominating in the early 2000s just because that's when he started winning titles. He was a 20/10 guy the moment he got drafted and started putting up 29/13 type numbers as early as his second season. He didn't just dominate starting in 2000. And he did do damage even against HOF players like Hakeem and David when they were putting up MVP caliber seasons themselves. And Vlade was only a couple years older than Shaq. And there were also guys like Alonzo and Yao Ming later on even if they aren't necessarily HOF caliber centers. It wasn't like Shaq was dominating 6'5 white guys at the center position game in and game out.

[Thread]

still don't understand why you're in this thread, since you don't do any other attribute besides rings.

Just trolling.

[Arnold Toht]

still don't understand why you're in this thread, since you don't do any other attribute besides rings. although i guess your answer to the original thread topic would be "bill russell + tommy heinsohn", which must be hard to admit as a lakers fan

Bills

[monosylab1k]

Please. He let Magic take his pants down & neutralize his manhood. I suppose Magic did it under the guise peace & harmony, but, he's only one of the two to ever ring again once the peace pipe was smoked.

tee, hee.

Please. If Magic would have taken his beating like a man in 86 they'd be square. But he didn't have the stomach to lose to Bird again, so he took the coward's way out and fell on his own sword a round earlier.

[Thread]

Please. If Magic would have taken his beating like a man in 86 they'd be square. But he didn't have the stomach to lose to Bird again, so he took the coward's way out and fell on his own sword a round earlier.

That's Cuban's reckless neglect talking.

[monosylab1k]

That's Cuban's reckless neglect talking.

No, it's your beloved Showtime pussing out in 86. Bird never pussed out like Magic.

[IronMexican]

History has a funny way of rewriting itself through the pen that is people's memories.

From 1992-97:

Shaquille v. Hakeem (Shaq 8 wins, Hakeem 2)

Shaq: 23.3 PPG, 13.9 RPG, 56.2% FG
Dream: 23.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 45.1% FG

Shaquille v. David Robinson (Shaq 3 wins, David 5)

Shaq: 26.4 PPG, 13.5 RPG, 50.9% FG
D-Rob: 29.1 PPG, 12.3 RPG, 51.0% FG


Shaq may have had varying degrees of success at times against those guys in one game or another, but he far from struggled against them. At the very least, he held his own. Especially with Hakeem, I think people assumed Hakeem dominated Shaq because of the 1995 NBA Finals. But truth is, even in the Finals, Shaq held his own. I know Shaq has stated Hakeem whooped his butt. But truth is, their match-up was pretty close:

1995 NBA Finals:

Shaq: 28 PPG, 12.5 RPG, 59.5% FG
Dream: 32.8 PPG, 11.5 RPG, 48.3% FG


And it's not like Shaq only started dominating in the early 2000s just because that's when he started winning titles. He was a 20/10 guy the moment he got drafted and started putting up 29/13 type numbers as early as his second season. He didn't just dominate starting in 2000. And he did do damage even against HOF players like Hakeem and David when they were putting up MVP caliber seasons themselves. And Vlade was only a couple years older than Shaq. And there were also guys like Alonzo and Yao Ming later on even if they aren't necessarily HOF caliber centers. It wasn't like Shaq was dominating 6'5 white guys at the center position game in and game out.

Christ. He shot 60% in the Finals that year.

[Thread]

No, it's your beloved Showtime pussing out in 86. Bird never pussed out like Magic.

Yes. It's Cuban dismantling in the blink of an eye what he'd meticulously & painstakingly built leaving you and your attendant fandom completely naked.

[monosylab1k]

Yes. It's Cuban dismantling in the blink of an eye what he'd meticulously & painstakingly built leaving you and your attendant fandom completely naked.

And Magic taking the coward's way out in 86.

[Thread]

And Magic taking the coward's way out in 86.

Dale: 16

Tuna: 1

[Thread]

^I figured that would put a stopper in the bottle. The motherfucker, trying to get the drop on the Cubster.

Next!

[spurraider21]

History has a funny way of rewriting itself through the pen that is people's memories.

From 1992-97:

Shaquille v. Hakeem (Shaq 8 wins, Hakeem 2)

Shaq: 23.3 PPG, 13.9 RPG, 56.2% FG
Dream: 23.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 45.1% FG

Shaquille v. David Robinson (Shaq 3 wins, David 5)

Shaq: 26.4 PPG, 13.5 RPG, 50.9% FG
D-Rob: 29.1 PPG, 12.3 RPG, 51.0% FG


Shaq may have had varying degrees of success at times against those guys in one game or another, but he far from struggled against them. At the very least, he held his own. Especially with Hakeem, I think people assumed Hakeem dominated Shaq because of the 1995 NBA Finals. But truth is, even in the Finals, Shaq held his own. I know Shaq has stated Hakeem whooped his butt. But truth is, their match-up was pretty close:

1995 NBA Finals:

Shaq: 28 PPG, 12.5 RPG, 59.5% FG
Dream: 32.8 PPG, 11.5 RPG, 48.3% FG


And it's not like Shaq only started dominating in the early 2000s just because that's when he started winning titles. He was a 20/10 guy the moment he got drafted and started putting up 29/13 type numbers as early as his second season. He didn't just dominate starting in 2000. And he did do damage even against HOF players like Hakeem and David when they were putting up MVP caliber seasons themselves. And Vlade was only a couple years older than Shaq. And there were also guys like Alonzo and Yao Ming later on even if they aren't necessarily HOF caliber centers. It wasn't like Shaq was dominating 6'5 white guys at the center position game in and game out.
I wasn't attempting to berate shaq, and I guess in my memory of his matchups with Hakeem I weighed the finals pretty heavily. He didnt have any playoff matchups with pre-injury Robinson. It's just odd that some people give him the title of "most dominant force in nba history" when he was on par or just below Robinson/Hakeem during the 90's (if you give weight to the finals I guess) while doing his winning against past their prime centers. Shaq is one of the ggreatest players I've seen, but I don't see how his individual dominance is seen as superior to wilt's. that was my main point

[Buddy Mignon]

I would combine Leonard and Ginobili at the SF. Unstoppable. They stopped the Spurs from a title.

lol... my nigga Ash.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Marc Gasol and Shaq

[Monostradamus]

Dale: 16

Tuna: 1

And in moments as a gutless quitter, boiled down it's -
Magic: 1
Bird: 0

[Boston Pancake]

Dale: 16

Tuna: 1

Boston Pancake: 17
Dale: 16

Now shut the fahk up you wicked gay homo fuckstick.

[Clipper Nation]

Dale: 16

Tuna: 1
But yet, in quits, it's:::

Kirby: 3

Dale: 1

Magic: 1

Bird: 0

[Thread]

Boston Pancake: 17
Dale: 16

Now shut the fahk up you wicked gay homo fuckstick.

Len Bias, slabbed & tagged.

Leprechaun my sour ass.

[Boston Pancake]

Len Bias, slabbed & tagged.

Leprechaun my sour ass.

He saved a seat in hell for ol Bussy.

[Leetonidas]

Dirk Nowitzki + Tim Duncan

[Leetonidas]

Boston Pancake: 17
Dale: 16

Now shut the fahk up you wicked gay homo fuckstick.

:lol

[Thread]

^Siding him over your old Cubster.

I'll be damned.

[ambchang]

Iverson's ball hogging ability with Horry's luck. That would be the ultimate.

Oh wait, that's Kobe.

[Thread]

Iverson's ball hogging ability with Horry's luck. That would be the ultimate.

Oh wait, that's Kobe.

That's bitterness over 6 talking. Nothing else.

Let us proceed...

[jacobdrj]

Dirk Rodman.
Dennis Nowitzki.

[Thread]

^The last time Dirk got that closely involved with a person of color in a dress she sold him a parcel of land on the wrong side of the border.

[Rogue]

Dirk Rodman.
Dennis Nowitzki.

Still little offensive game at the low post though.

[jacobdrj]

Still little offensive game at the low post though.

His low post isn't as bad as people make it out to be, and his FT% and 3P% more than make up for it with the amount of defense the 'Rodman' part would play. AFAIK Dirk is the most complete offensive PF in the game that I have had the opportunity to watch. (I was too young for Bird, but that might have also been a legit pick at PF, except I am not sure that Larry played primarily at PF, more of a SF.) Timmay is a well rounded offensive player, but his 3 point shooting and his FT% leaves a lot to be desired. Rasheed had a hell of a post game, and the attitude of someone who never used it, and his 3 point percentage and FT% was not anywhere near Dirk's.

The unreal FT%, good enough post game and stretch-4 game that Dirk brings is enough fro me with Rodman's unreal defense.

[Rogue]

I'd rather take Malone to make a hybrid with Dirk though. Malone's D was solid enough and he was stout as fuck, and his low-post offense would hammer down any defense in today's league. Defense isn't that important an attribute to the #1 of a team to begin with imho, even when he's the best defender on your team you would still rather that he plays more "lazily" at the defensive end in order to save the energy for offense, except when the games goes white heat (like the last 28 secs of a crucial game 6). Playing pick-and-roll with a dirk-malone hybrid would be a nuclear weapon against the opposing teams imho

[jacobdrj]

Honestly I was thinking a lot about Malone. His defense was VERY good, and his low post was excellent. But I feel that there was enough overlap, and Rodman was just SO much better on D, even than Malone...

[Sean Cagney]

David Robinson and Hakeem...... My team would win with that combo.

[jacobdrj]

David Robinson and Hakeem...... My team would win with that combo.

Too much overlap IMHO. I always just thought of Hakeem as a slightly better DRob, and in my mind combining 2 players doesn't mean adding their stats together... DRob and Manure Bol maybe...

[Sean Cagney]

Too much overlap IMHO. I always just thought of Hakeem as a slightly better DRob, and in my mind combining 2 players doesn't mean adding their stats together... DRob and Manure Bol maybe...

Hakeems Post game and D Robs jumper and athleticism. D ROB was not nearly as good in the post as Hakeem. I would add both together.

[PlayNando]

Tony Parker + Yao Ming.

Tony Parker speed and Yao Ming's height = unstoppable, tbh. It would be hilarious. :lol

[D-Wade]

Wade + Reggie Miller

Basically Wade with a consistent outside shot = a wrap

[spurraider21]

Stephen Curry and Tim Duncan

[Chief Brody]

Gimme Kermit Washington and Charles Oakley and we'll beat the shit out of everyone here

[jacobdrj]

Reggie's flop-kicks and Wade's athleticism... Match made in heaven...

[jacobdrj]

Steve Nash. RaJon Rondo.

[BUMP]

Wilt>>Shaq imho

like someone eaerlier said, it's not like Shaq was dominant against other great centers. He was at his absolute peak in an era where centers were shitty as fuck. Centers started becoming shittier and shittier basically after 2000 with the exception of an occasional good one (Yao, Howard, Bynum are the only ones that come to mind).

Not to mention Chamberlain was a physical freak. 7'1 300 pounds, could bench 500 pounds, and had a legit vertical. He would dominate in today's game as well

[BUMP]

I mean c'mon...

does anybody really think this guy wouldn't dominate in today's game?

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ2MTM3MjY1Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzA3NjEzNA@@._ V1._SX640_SY428_.jpg

look at that physique! :wow :jack

[Rogue]

Wilt wouldn't have dominated today's league imho. Dude would've been forced to retire by his sophomore year due to HIV

[spursfan1000]

Shaquille and allen iverson

[jacobdrj]

Shaq did play some point against Brad Miller in an all star game once...