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boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 01:17 AM
its not about being ashamed of it. but you just parrot a lot of generic headline-esque talking points

Refute each point Uriel made. Where's is he wrong about Repugs?

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 01:24 AM
just a disclaimer... cotton belt republicans are probably the most terrifying politicians in the US :lol

like i've said, i'm not a fan of the GOP, but this notion that just constantly electing democrats is going to fix everything is seriously flawed. i think the 2 party system is broken, and we're going to have shitty politics until further notice. i prefer more turnover in general though. once any one of these faggots is in office for too long, they get really big headed

Uriel
11-05-2014, 01:39 AM
every democrat in congress believes in god, and outside of a few handful of jews they're all christians who believe in the judeo-christian god.

i dont think anti-evolution is on the official republican party platform though
I wouldn't say every Democrat in Congress believes in God. In fact, I'm almost certain that there are atheists among them who just don't declare it openly because of the repercussions that would follow. Same reason why I suspect Obama is a closet atheist.

And regardless of whether or not they deny evolution in their official platform, they certainly support creationism in it. In addition, several prominent Republicans deny evolution, as does much of its base.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 01:44 AM
I wouldn't say every Democrat in Congress believes in God. In fact, I'm almost certain that there are atheists among them who just don't declare it openly because of the repercussions that would follow. Same reason why I suspect Obama is a closet atheist.

And regardless of whether or not they deny evolution in their official platform, they certainly support creationism in it. In addition, several prominent Republicans deny evolution, as does much of its base.
that's all horseshit speculation though. there is 1 muslim congressman, about 30-35 jewish, and the rest are christian. all claim to believe in god. if you say "well i think there are closet atheist democrats" then you could apply the same baseless speculation on republicans.

and it has nothing to do with evolution... the pope believes in evolution ffs.

Uriel
11-05-2014, 01:45 AM
just a disclaimer... cotton belt republicans are probably the most terrifying politicians in the US :lol

like i've said, i'm not a fan of the GOP, but this notion that just constantly electing democrats is going to fix everything is seriously flawed. i think the 2 party system is broken, and we're going to have shitty politics until further notice. i prefer more turnover in general though. once any one of these faggots is in office for too long, they get really big headed
I actually agree with you there. Obviously the notion that "constantly electing Democrats is going to fix everything" is utterly ridiculous; the two party system is there to check the excesses of the other, and to that extent, Republicans are useful. But there comes a certain point when, extremism and blind ideology completely dominates one party into sheer madness. The Democrats were that party in the 1980's, until they underwent serious internal reform in the form of the "New Democrats" in the 1990's. The Republican Party is now the one in need of serious reform.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 01:46 AM
obama said in an interview that he goes to church every week :lol

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 01:47 AM
I actually agree with you there. Obviously the notion that "constantly electing Democrats is going to fix everything" is utterly ridiculous; the two party system is there to check the excesses of the other, and to that extent, Republicans are useful. But there comes a certain point when, extremism and blind ideology completely dominates one party into sheer madness. The Democrats were that party in the 1980's, until they underwent serious internal reform in the form of the "New Democrats" in the 1990's. The Republican Party is now the one in need of serious reform.
tbqh i think this is equally accurate to both parties

Uriel
11-05-2014, 01:48 AM
that's all horseshit speculation though. there is 1 muslim congressman, about 30-35 jewish, and the rest are christian. all claim to believe in god. if you say "well i think there are closet atheist democrats" then you could apply the same baseless speculation on republicans.

and it has nothing to do with evolution... the pope believes in evolution ffs.
That's true, of course. But I think it's far more likely that the atheists are on the left (or at least the centre), and certainly not on the right. Don't you agree?

The Pope would vote Democrat if here were an American. He supports marriage equality, evolution, the Big Bang. He even said atheists could be "redeemed." Pope Francis (and most Jesuits generally) are liberal through and through.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 01:50 AM
That's true, of course. But I think it's far more likely that the atheists are on the left (or at least the centre), and certainly not on the right. Don't you agree?

The Pope would vote Democrat if here were an American. He supports marriage equality, evolution, the Big Bang. He even said atheists could be "redeemed." Pope Francis (and most Jesuits generally) are liberal through and through.
i think voting for a party because of views on evolution/big bang is moronic when it comes to national elections. its not like evolution was banned from schools during the bush years :lol

state politics matter more for that, since they control education

Uriel
11-05-2014, 01:51 AM
obama said in an interview that he goes to church every week :lol
He also said he was strongly influenced by his father's atheism and was not religious in a memoir he wrote before he decided to run for public office (which is, of course, a reliable barometer of a person's true beliefs).

Besides, the mere fact that Obama is obviously intelligent and well-educated strongly suggest that he is likely to be an atheist.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 01:52 AM
He also said he was strongly influenced by his father's atheism and was not religious in a memoir he wrote before he decided to run for public office (which is, of course, a reliable barometer of a person's true beliefs).

Besides, the mere fact that Obama is obviously intelligent and well-educated strongly suggest that he is likely to be an atheist.
yeah but obama cites his mother's religion as more influential

Uriel
11-05-2014, 01:54 AM
i think voting for a party because of views on evolution/big bang is moronic when it comes to national elections. its not like evolution was banned from schools during the bush years :lol

state politics matter more for that, since they control education
I agree. I already wrote before that I don't think social issues should decide elections.

Maybe so, but consider this: Democrats also support policies like universal health care, raising the minimum wage, cutting taxes for the middle class (while raising taxes on the rich), and the like. These are all policies that help working-class Americans. The fact remains that the Democratic platform does far more to help ordinary people than the Republican platform does. So why would anyone other than the ultra-rich want to support Republicans?
That's precisely my issue--people have this delusion that non-economic issues also matter. Who cares if you oppose gay marriage / abortion? That doesn't mean you should vote for your local Republican politician just because he or she does so too. It's not like they have the power to re-write federal legislation anyway. What they do have power over is the implementation of social programs in your local municipality. So why would you want to support Republicans, whose only interest is protecting the rich at your expense?

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 01:55 AM
:lol universal healthcare... the only thing we got out of the democrats was mandated healthcare, not government provided
republicans chop taxes for everyboy

none of these issues you brought up favor democrats over republicans for the worse-off

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 01:57 AM
things like 'increasing minimum wage' make it seem fine and dandy for "lower class america" but it only benefits minimum wage workers and fucks over the rest of the working class... stricter insurance plans like we saw in obamacare fuck over small businesses that have multiple employees, etc, which people have felt firsthand. this is why i was criticizing you for going with slogans instead of actual talking points originally

Uriel
11-05-2014, 01:57 AM
yeah but obama cites his mother's religion as more influential
HIS MOTHER WAS AN ATHEIST. His white grandparents who raised him were ALSO atheists. :lol

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:03 AM
:lol universal healthcare... the only thing we got out of the democrats was mandated healthcare, not government provided
republicans chop taxes for everyboy

none of these issues you brought up favor democrats over republicans for the worse-off

things like 'increasing minimum wage' make it seem fine and dandy for "lower class america" but it only benefits minimum wage workers and fucks over the rest of the working class... stricter insurance plans like we saw in obamacare fuck over small businesses that have multiple employees, etc, which people have felt firsthand. this is why i was criticizing you for going with slogans instead of actual talking points originally
How does raising the minimum wage "fuck over" the rest of the working class?

Besides, Obamacare actually helps the working class, which is the great irony of this topic. White working-class voters support Republican officials who want to take away their healthcare. :lol

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 02:05 AM
HIS MOTHER WAS AN ATHEIST. His white grandparents who raised him were ALSO atheists. :lol
My father was from Kenya and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn't practice Islam. Truth is he wasn't very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I've always been a Christian. The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country. But I've never practiced Islam.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 02:08 AM
How does raising the minimum wage "fuck over" the rest of the working class?
as long as we aren't talking about multi-million dollar enterprises, increasing wages means less $ to go around. layoffs, cuts in shift hours, etc. i was a victim of this when i worked at a frozen yogurt shop :lol... we all had our hours sliced and had less people working per shift even though revenue was constant

Besides, Obamacare actually helps the working class, which is the great irony of this topic. White working-class voters support Republican officials who want to take away their healthcare. :lol
how, exactly?

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:13 AM
My father was from Kenya and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn't practice Islam. Truth is he wasn't very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I've always been a Christian. The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country. But I've never practiced Islam.
Ann Dunham (Obama's mother)'s daughter, Maya Soetoro-Ng, when asked later if her mother was an atheist, said, "I wouldn't have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic. She basically gave us all the good books—the Bible, the Hindu Upanishads and the Buddhist scripture, the Tao Te Ching (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_Te_Ching)—and wanted us to recognize that everyone has something beautiful to contribute."[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham#cite_note-Solomon_2008-35) "Jesus, she felt, was a wonderful example. But she felt that a lot of Christians behaved in un-Christian ways."[69] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham#cite_note-csmonitor-69) On the other hand, Maxine Box, Dunham's best friend in high school, said that Dunham "touted herself [then] as an atheist, and it was something she'd read about and could argue. She was always challenging and arguing and comparing. She was already thinking about things that the rest of us hadn't."[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham#cite_note-notjustagirl-7)

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 02:16 AM
eh, i dont think obama is actually very religious, so im not going to drag this on :lol

but its all pure speculation and for all we know could be true about GOP members too. but as of now all of them are openly religious, so imo its unfair to call one party pro-religious and the other pro-atheist

just by saying "obama appears intelligent and is educated, and is thus likely atheist"... you can use that same criteria to say a lot of elected republicans are atheists, unless you contend that all republicans in office are unintelligent and uneducated

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:26 AM
as long as we aren't talking about multi-million dollar enterprises, increasing wages means less $ to go around. layoffs, cuts in shift hours, etc. i was a victim of this when i worked at a frozen yogurt shop :lol... we all had our hours sliced and had less people working per shift even though revenue was constant
I've read your post multiple times, but I still don't see how it "fucks over" the working class. Maybe it fucks over other low skilled labourers looking for a minimum wage job by reducing employment rates. But it doesn't "fuck over" the working-class.


how exactly?
ObamaCare has exponentially increased the number of Americans who have health insurance, including working-class Americans who previously did not have access to it. Republicans, whose base consists of working-class whites, want to repeal ObamaCare. So working-class white Americans are voting for politicians who want to kill a system that gives them access to health insurance.

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:33 AM
EDIT: What the fuck, SpursTalk removed my reply to your other post......

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 02:35 AM
I've read your post multiple times, but I still don't see how it "fucks over" the working class. Maybe it fucks over other low skilled labourers looking for a minimum wage job by reducing employment rates. But it doesn't "fuck over" the working-class.
yeah i was mostly talking about low skilled laborers looking for entry level work being affected, as well as small business owners. its not going to realistically affect the giant corporations like your wal-marts and such, 49% of private sector employment is from small business anyway



ObamaCare has exponentially increased the number of Americans who have health insurance, including working-class Americans who previously did not have access to it. Republicans, whose base consists of working-class whites, want to repeal ObamaCare. So working-class white Americans are voting for politicians who want to kill a system that gives them access to health insurance.
i think some good came out of obamacare. better mandated coverage for women, and the ability to get insured for pre-existing conditions. but the fact that in "insures more americans than before" is just due to it being a mandate/tax. heck, the supreme court only found obamacare to be constitutional because they determined it was a tax

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:37 AM
eh, i dont think obama is actually very religious, so im not going to drag this on :lol

but its all pure speculation and for all we know could be true about GOP members too. but as of now all of them are openly religious, so imo its unfair to call one party pro-religious and the other pro-atheist

just by saying "obama appears intelligent and is educated, and is thus likely atheist"... you can use that same criteria to say a lot of elected republicans are atheists, unless you contend that all republicans in office are unintelligent and uneducated
I wrote a long and detailed reply to this, but I'm too lazy to re-type it. The bottom line is, yes, there definitely are pro-science Republicans, but there are more pro-science people on the Left and more anti-science people on the Right. That's just the way their political ideologies are constructed.

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The fact that Huntsman, a Republican presidential candidate, had to write "call me crazy" in that tweet just goes to show how far off the rails his party has gone off on this issue.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 02:38 AM
I wrote a long and detailed reply to this, but I'm too lazy to re-type it. The bottom line is, yes, there definitely are pro-science Republicans, but there are more pro-science people on the Left and more anti-science people on the Right. That's just the way their political ideologies are constructed.

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The fact that Huntsman, a Republican presidential candidate, had to write "call me crazy" in that tweet just goes to show how far off the rails his party has gone off on this issue.
if you wanted a better target, theres Paul Broun :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBy3MbP4WDo

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 02:40 AM
:lmao the background

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:41 AM
yeah i was mostly talking about low skilled laborers looking for entry level work being affected, as well as small business owners. its not going to realistically affect the giant corporations like your wal-marts and such, 49% of private sector employment is from small business anyway



i think some good came out of obamacare. better mandated coverage for women, and the ability to get insured for pre-existing conditions. but the fact that in "insures more americans than before" is just due to it being a mandate/tax. heck, the supreme court only found obamacare to be constitutional because they determined it was a tax
Then it doesn't fuck over the "working class." It fucks over the unemployed. Small business owners aren't fucked over because, as you wrote, they can just introduce layoffs or cuts in shift hours to compensate. But they still benefit because minimum wage owners now have more money to spend to purchase their goods and services in the first place. As I said before, my wage is your profit, and your profit is my wage. That's just the way the economy works.

Regardless, the point still stands. Obamacare gave health insurance to working class whites, and they want to screw themselves by voting Republican. Hence the irony. :lol

Aztecfan03
11-05-2014, 02:42 AM
I've read your post multiple times, but I still don't see how it "fucks over" the working class. Maybe it fucks over other low skilled labourers looking for a minimum wage job by reducing employment rates. But it doesn't "fuck over" the working-class.


ObamaCare has exponentially increased the number of Americans who have health insurance, including working-class Americans who previously did not have access to it. Republicans, whose base consists of working-class whites, want to repeal ObamaCare. So working-class white Americans are voting for politicians who want to kill a system that gives them access to health insurance.

Wow. Btw, do you know the meaning of the word exponentially?

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 02:44 AM
Then it doesn't fuck over the "working class." It fucks over the unemployed. Small business owners aren't fucked over because, as you wrote, they can just introduce layoffs or cuts in shift hours to compensate. But they still benefit because minimum wage owners now have more money to spend to purchase their goods and services in the first place. As I said before, my wage is your profit, and your profit is my wage. That's just the way the economy works.

Regardless, the point still stands. Obamacare gave health insurance to working class whites, and they want to screw themselves by voting Republican. Hence the irony. :lol
well, it fucks over the "newly unemployed" as a result of the aforementioned layoffs :lol. and small business owners either have to cut staff/hours (which hurts productivity) or raise prices, which can slow business. and cutting shift hours fuck over the working class as well. underemployment can be as bad as unemployment for some. who cares about making an extra 1.50 an hour if your hours are cut. and if it comes at the expense of somebody else's job, then that's not doing so much.

obamacare doesn't "give" insurance, it just forces you to buy it

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 02:45 AM
Wow. Btw, do you know the meaning of the word exponentially?
mathematically speaking, if its an exponent less than 1, he could be accurate :lol

but yeah, conversationally, exponential is used differently and is misused in this case

Aztecfan03
11-05-2014, 02:49 AM
mathematically speaking, if its an exponent less than 1, he could be accurate :lol

but yeah, conversationally, exponential is used differently and is misused in this case

yeah i know. Any growth or decrease would have an exponent.

Aztecfan03
11-05-2014, 02:53 AM
well, it fucks over the "newly unemployed" as a result of the aforementioned layoffs :lol. and small business owners either have to cut staff/hours (which hurts productivity) or raise prices, which can slow business. and cutting shift hours fuck over the working class as well. underemployment can be as bad as unemployment for some. who cares about making an extra 1.50 an hour if your hours are cut. and if it comes at the expense of somebody else's job, then that's not doing so much.

obamacare doesn't "give" insurance, it just forces you to buy it

And it fucks over the working class who don't get a raise but have to pay higher prices for goods.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 02:54 AM
i think a problem is many people think all employers = rich cigar smoking millionaires who can afford to pay more, but choose not to

i think a problem is that neither party's economic policy really works for everybody. i think republican trickle down stuff can apply to the small business model, but fails when you get to the large business/corporate level, and vice versa. this is why you can find numbers that show each side working/not working. i think capital gains tax rates are a bigger problem than minimum wage/income tax

Uriel
11-05-2014, 03:22 AM
Wow. Btw, do you know the meaning of the word exponentially?
Well, the word "exponentially" according to the Oxford English Dictionary means "becoming more and more rapid." And certainly, when the program was being freshly rolled out, the number of Americans who obtained health insurance became "more and more rapid."

But anyway, thanks for pointing this out. I'll be sure to take better care to use the precise meaning of the word "exponentially" next time. :tu

Uriel
11-05-2014, 03:25 AM
well, it fucks over the "newly unemployed" as a result of the aforementioned layoffs :lol. and small business owners either have to cut staff/hours (which hurts productivity) or raise prices, which can slow business. and cutting shift hours fuck over the working class as well. underemployment can be as bad as unemployment for some. who cares about making an extra 1.50 an hour if your hours are cut. and if it comes at the expense of somebody else's job, then that's not doing so much.

obamacare doesn't "give" insurance, it just forces you to buy it
That's true. So I guess it works both ways, then. But over here in Australia, where the minimum wage is extremely high, there's a lot more social mobility than in the US, where it is extremely low (compared to other OECD countries). And there's a lot less unemployment and a lot more equality. I don't think that's a coincidence.

Uriel
11-05-2014, 03:26 AM
And it fucks over the working class who don't get a raise but have to pay higher prices for goods.
That's only if businesses decide to raise the price of goods. But as spurraider21 has mentioned, in his experience, businesses don't raise prices to compensate. They just cut down on labor.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 03:32 AM
That's only if businesses decide to raise the price of goods. But as spurraider21 has mentioned, in his experience, businesses don't raise prices to compensate. They just cut down on labor.
price hikes happen, but they're generally a last resort

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 03:35 AM
That's true. So I guess it works both ways, then. But over here in Australia, where the minimum wage is extremely high, there's a lot more social mobility than in the US, where it is extremely low (compared to other OECD countries). And there's a lot less unemployment and a lot more equality. I don't think that's a coincidence.
isn't australia also freakishly difficult to immigrate into unless you have some technical expertise? i think that has a lot to do with their economic structure, especially when comparing it to the US which accepts hordes of unskilled laborers crowding the lower tier job markets which we are discussing

Uriel
11-05-2014, 03:54 AM
isn't australia also freakishly difficult to immigrate into unless you have some technical expertise? i think that has a lot to do with their economic structure, especially when comparing it to the US which accepts hordes of unskilled laborers crowding the lower tier job markets which we are discussing
Well, technically, those "hordes of unskilled labourers" aren't being granted citizenship. But generally, from my vantage, it's been a lot easier to immigrate into Australia than in the US. Some of my uncles and aunts were only able to obtain US citizenship because they'd served in its military. But my Australian relatives were able to obtain citizenship right off the bat just by applying for it (though admittedly, I'm not sure if it's still that easy today).

As for economic structure, Australia is far more to the left than America. Over at uni, a lot of us are appalled at how far to the right even Democrats in the US are. Here, we have high minimum wage, universal health care, generous unemployment benefits, and a whole lot more. And what has it produced? A far more egalitarian society, and one of the highest living standards in the world. In terms of HDI, for instance, Australia ranks #2 in the world (just below Norway, another socialist country).

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 04:08 AM
Well, technically, those "hordes of unskilled labourers" aren't being granted citizenship. But generally, from my vantage, it's been a lot easier to immigrate into Australia than in the US. Some of my uncles and aunts were only able to obtain US citizenship because they'd served in its military. But my Australian relatives were able to obtain citizenship right off the bat just by applying for it (though admittedly, I'm not sure if it's still that easy today).

As for economic structure, Australia is far more to the left than America. Over at uni, a lot of us are appalled at how far to the right even Democrats in the US are. Here, we have high minimum wage, universal health care, generous unemployment benefits, and a whole lot more. And what has it produced? A far more egalitarian society, and one of the highest living standards in the world. In terms of HDI, for instance, Australia ranks #2 in the world (just below Norway, another socialist country).
yeah right now citizenship is really burdensome to acquire, but immigration in general isn't as tough. you can still move here, work, etc without getting citizenship

besides the obvious North Korea, from my understanding, Australia and Japan are the two most difficult countries to immigrate to (or at least two of the most difficult)

ElNono
11-05-2014, 04:22 AM
yeah right now citizenship is really burdensome to acquire, but immigration in general isn't as tough. you can still move here, work, etc without getting citizenship

besides the obvious North Korea, from my understanding, Australia and Japan are the two most difficult countries to immigrate to (or at least two of the most difficult)

Speaking from experience (former H1B holder, current citizen), *legal* immigration to the US is actually fairly difficult. You need to have a "sponsor", that sponsor needs to either cut a lot of red tape or have a fat wallet.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 04:46 AM
Speaking from experience (former H1B holder, current citizen), *legal* immigration to the US is actually fairly difficult. You need to have a "sponsor", that sponsor needs to either cut a lot of red tape or have a fat wallet.
my gf's family moved here from sweden and she's going through the same crap. her bro got full time employment from Sharp and they're sponsoring him. she's still paying international student fees for school which is a complete bitch. she's still only here on a student visa atm...

it's not that the US has inherently tough immigration laws, but its more so that its still the #1 destination for immigrants, and the competition is fierce. from what i understand Australia has nutty standards though

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 05:03 AM
Investigation Reveals Silicon Valley’s Abuse of Immigrant Tech Workers

They’re called “body shops.”

These under-the-radar operations act as labor brokers, helping foreign skilled workers deal with the complicated paperwork needed to get jobs in the U.S. and then offering their services to American tech companies and government agencies. They can significantly streamline the never-ending hunt for talent in places like Silicon Valley, where demand for software engineers can exceed supply. But according to a new report, they have also pocketed wages and benefits from workers and even sued them for changing jobs, and apparently, many big-name tech companies—including Cisco, Verizon, Apple, Google and eBay—have turned a blind eye to the abuses.

According to the report, which was released by The Center of Investigative Reporting (https://beta.cironline.org/reports/job-brokers-steal-wages-entrap-indian-tech-workers-in-us/) (CIR), The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/28/-sp-jobs-brokers-entrap-indian-tech-workers), and NBC Bay Area’s Investigative Unit (http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Silicon-Valleys-Body-Shop-Secret-280567322.html), these labor brokers have often charged workers the cost of a visa and didn’t have a job waiting for them when they arrived, both of which are prohibited by visa rules. And in some cases, when workers arrived in the U.S., the account goes, they were “benched”—placed in a guesthouse with subpar living conditions and asked to post exaggerated resumes online.

Then, when workers received jobs, the report claims, the body shops who hired them collected a cut of their salary. The authors of the investigation probed this migrant worker problem for a year, speaking to thousands of Indian tech workers both on and off the record. They found abuses in Silicon Valley, as well as other parts of the U.S. One worker described it as an “ecosystem of fear.”

According to the report, Cisco, Verizon, Apple, Google, eBay, and some branches of the federal government (https://beta.cironline.org/reports/job-brokers-exploit-indian-tech-workers-on-taxpayers-dime/) use these labor brokers—through others, notably Facebook, shun them. “Why a more comprehensive job of cracking down on this wasn’t done, given that it seems there were violations of the law at pretty much every juncture—that’s the basic question we hope our work asked,” Matt Smith, one of the authors, tells WIRED.

Using these brokers, technology companies can staff up their workforce more quickly, without having to deal with procedural delays. And, in theory, foreign tech workers can benefit, too: if they were already looking to move to the U.S., signing on with a consulting firm who matches them up with an open position can be less stressful than having to go out and do an extensive job search themselves. But reviewing court filings involving more than 600 fraudulent H-1B visas, investigators found a more convoluted story.

...

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/investigation-reveals-silicon-valleys-abuse-immigrant-tech-workers/

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 07:31 AM
And it fucks over the working class who don't get a raise but have to pay higher prices for goods.

:lol evidence?

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 07:33 AM
:lol
Alabama voters ban sharia law

Such was the case in Alabama where voters passed Foreign Laws in Court Amendment 1, which was added to the ballot by the state’s legislature in an effort to put a controversial bill in the hands of voters.

Alabama Senator Gerald Allen first introduced the idea of explicitly prohibiting sharia laws from the state’s courts as a bill in the state legislature. The bill did not pass and instead became a ballot measure that asked whether the courts should answer to any foreign law.

Unlike codified Western law, sharia is a loosely defined set of moral and legal guidelines based on the Koran, the sayings of Prophet Mohammad and Muslim traditions. Its rules and advice cover everything from prayers to personal hygiene.

A critic, Randy Brinson, president of the Christian Coalition of Alabama, called the vote a “tremendous waste of effort,” in an interview with Birmingham News last week.
“Sharia law is not going to be implemented in Alabama, it just isn’t,” Brinson said toBirmingham News.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/alabama-voters-ban-sharia-law-while-maine-voters-consider-bear-baiting/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

facts? we redstaters don't need no steenkin facts :lol

baseline bum
11-05-2014, 08:09 AM
529848264204767232

SupremeGuy
11-05-2014, 08:29 AM
:lmao

Aztecfan03
11-05-2014, 11:03 AM
That's only if businesses decide to raise the price of goods. But as spurraider21 has mentioned, in his experience, businesses don't raise prices to compensate. They just cut down on labor.

If the minimum wage rises a lot, the prices will have to rise. Cutting down on labor wouldn't be enough.

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 11:18 AM
"So voters want a higher minimum wage, legal pot, abortion access and GOP representation. Ok then."

where those issues passed, Repugs weren't elected, weren't in red states.

baseline bum
11-05-2014, 11:30 AM
"So voters want a higher minimum wage, legal pot, abortion access and GOP representation. Ok then."

where those issues passed, Repugs weren't elected, weren't in red states.




Repugs weren't elected in Arkansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, and Alaska last night? It's funny when people vote against Republican views but for Republicans because they don't like the ######.

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 11:36 AM
Repugs weren't elected in Arkansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, and Alaska last night? It's funny when people vote against Republican views but for Republicans because they don't like the ######.

Repug politicians are mostly out step with the majority of Americans on mj, same-sex marriage, minimum wage, financial regulation/taxing, wealthy taxing, other issues, because they pander to their extreme right wing/Christian base and grovel before BigCorps.

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 11:40 AM
Repugs weren't elected in Arkansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, and Alaska last night? It's funny when people vote against Republican views but for Republicans because they don't like the ######.


Lol, Godwin's law 2.0

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 11:42 AM
Speaking from experience (former H1B holder, current citizen), *legal* immigration to the US is actually fairly difficult. You need to have a "sponsor", that sponsor needs to either cut a lot of red tape or have a fat wallet.


For whatever reason, current U.S. immigration policy makes it more difficult for skilled people from countries not named Mexico.

baseline bum
11-05-2014, 11:47 AM
Lol, Godwin's law 2.0

Republicans are mostly against even having a minimum wage much less increasing it, so it's pretty strange to vote for minimum wage increases and vote Republican on the same ballot.

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 11:49 AM
Republicans are mostly against even having a minimum wage much less increasing it, so it's pretty strange to vote for minimum wage increases and vote Republican on the same ballot.

Must be a racial thing then

baseline bum
11-05-2014, 11:49 AM
Must be a racial thing then

Most likely

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 11:50 AM
Most likely

Smh

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 11:50 AM
Lol, Godwin's law 2.0

not at all. Racism and xenophobia have been, are fundamental to Repug strategy for 50+ years, even when they were Democrats in the South, until LBJ pushed through the progressive laws of the 1960s and the Southern Strategy converted racist southern Dems to Repugs.

Winehole23
11-05-2014, 11:54 AM
haven't you heard, BB, we're living in a post racial society now. all ascriptions of racism, except those lodged by a persecuted white minority against against racist anti-racism, are axiomatically cynical and false.

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 12:00 PM
haven't you heard, BB, we're living in a post racial society now. all ascriptions of racism, except those lodged by a persecuted white minority against against racist anti-racism, are axiomatically cynical and false.


When everything is racist -- nothing is

Winehole23
11-05-2014, 12:03 PM
who said everything was racist?

ElNono
11-05-2014, 12:04 PM
For whatever reason, current U.S. immigration policy makes it more difficult for skilled people from countries not named Mexico.

It's the other way around, tbh... You look at the visa lottery, and Mexicans cannot apply. Like I said, *legal* immigration costs a lot of time and money, and it's generally difficult.

Mexico is the typical case of a border country. Don't forget than in the US, almost half of illegal immigrants just overstayed their tourist visas.

How to tackle that is a complex problem. It's solvable, but it's going to take more than alleged silver bullets like building a fence.

Winehole23
11-05-2014, 12:16 PM
to reflexively deny that a significant part of the opposition to Obama -- and support for the GOP -- proceeds from racism, seems as unrealistic as chalking everything up to racism. racism surely still exists, and racists vote.

does it explain everything? no. but it does explain some things.

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 12:30 PM
to reflexively deny that a significant part of the opposition to Obama -- and support for the GOP -- proceeds from racism, seems as unrealistic as chalking everything up to racism. racism surely still exists, and racists vote.

does it explain everything? no. but it does explain some things.


Or, it's just the cyclical nature of politics. There are many examples of midterms going against the party of the incumbent president.

But, whatever

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 12:42 PM
to reflexively deny that a significant part of the opposition to Obama -- and support for the GOP -- proceeds from racism, seems as unrealistic as chalking everything up to racism. racism surely still exists, and racists vote.

does it explain everything? no. but it does explain some things.


Did the people of Illinois suddenly become racist by electing a republican governor? I'm pretty sure Obama carried that state in two elections. Lol.

Winehole23
11-05-2014, 12:46 PM
historical patterns don't explain everything either.

you think racism explains nothing in politics? how terribly naive.

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 12:47 PM
to reflexively deny that a significant part of the opposition to Obama -- and support for the GOP -- proceeds from racism, seems as unrealistic as chalking everything up to racism. racism surely still exists, and racists vote.

does it explain everything? no. but it does explain some things.

the Repugs/right-wing-hate-media LIE and SLIMES on Obama build on, amplify the Repugs' rural, white, low-wage, low-education base's racism and xenophobia. He's a n!gg@, fist-bumping terrist, Kenyan, communist community organizer, pals around with terrists, out-of-control spender, etc, etc.

Then they blame him for ISIS (a Repug creation) and Ebola (Repugs cuts to NIH) coming to destroy 'murica.

The Repugs' shitstorm of propaganda, lies, slander drowns out, for their base, how much the Repugs have fucked up Congress, have blocked EVERYTHING since 2010 that could have helped America forward.

Winehole23
11-05-2014, 01:45 PM
whether it's you complaining that Obama can't get anything done because of Republican Congressmen, or Republican Congressman complaining (as they surely will the next two years) that they can't get anything done because of Obama, it amounts to the same thing: electoral posturing has replaced governing.

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:03 PM
529848264204767232
:lmao

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:07 PM
Repugs weren't elected in Arkansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, and Alaska last night? It's funny when people vote against Republican views but for Republicans because they don't like the ######.
Exactly. During Obama's Presidency, unemployment has gone down, economic growth has accelerated, the budget deficit has plummeted, and millions more Americans have health insurance. So why don't people give him credit for his accomplishments?

Because of the color of his skin.

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 02:08 PM
whether it's you complaining that Obama can't get anything done because of Republican Congressmen, or Republican Congressman complaining (as they surely will the next two years) that they can't get anything done because of Obama, it amounts to the same thing: electoral posturing has replaced governing.

"you complaining that Obama can't get anything done because of Republican Congressmen" is a fact and worthy of vehement complaints, as Repugs would rather hurt the country, have people DEAD (block medicaid expansion) than allow Dems any progress.

Whether Obama will really veto Repug garbage, remains to be seen.

baseline bum
11-05-2014, 02:10 PM
Exactly. During Obama's Presidency, unemployment has gone down, economic growth has accelerated, the budget deficit has plummeted, and millions more Americans have health insurance. So why don't people give him credit for his accomplishments?

Because of the color of his skin.

Economic growth has been shit, unemployment is down because of the way it's calculated, and Obamacare is a clusterfuck because he wouldn't stand up to Nelson and other Blue Dog faggots.

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:15 PM
Smh
Let me ask you this: If working-class white voters were informed that the overwhelming majority of welfare recipients are white, instead of the single-parent black teenaged mother that they imagine it to be, do you honestly believe they'd still be as vehemently opposed to it as they are now? That's a simple yes or no question, and I want a straight answer.

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:18 PM
Economic growth has been shit, unemployment is down because of the way it's calculated, and Obamacare is a clusterfuck because he wouldn't stand up to Nelson and other Blue Dog faggots.
President Obama Took Office
(January 2009) Today
7,949 The Dow Jones Index 17,390
7.8% Unemployment 5.9%
-5.4% GDP Growth 4.6%
9.8% Deficit GDP % 2.8%
37.7 Consumer Confidence 94.5

Uriel
11-05-2014, 02:22 PM
haven't you heard, BB, we're living in a post racial society now. all ascriptions of racism, except those lodged by a persecuted white minority against against racist anti-racism, are axiomatically cynical and false.

whether it's you complaining that Obama can't get anything done because of Republican Congressmen, or Republican Congressman complaining (as they surely will the next two years) that they can't get anything done because of Obama, it amounts to the same thing: electoral posturing has replaced governing.

to reflexively deny that a significant part of the opposition to Obama -- and support for the GOP -- proceeds from racism, seems as unrealistic as chalking everything up to racism. racism surely still exists, and racists vote.

does it explain everything? no. but it does explain some things.
Your nuanced political takes are a refreshing change of pace from the extreme partisanship that many posters, including I admittedly, am guilty of in this forum. Well done. :tu

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 02:23 PM
"Obamacare is a clusterfuck"

You Lie

Ms have access to medical care, and there's tons of other stuff ACA has created, shaken up. Yes, it was really dumb to have Baucus and his industry exec/lobbyist write the bill, the sausage is better than no sausage.

the clusterfuck is Repugs KILLING 1000s of Americans, esp mother and babies, by denying them access to expanded Medicaid.

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 04:34 PM
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/klingenschmitt-wingnut.jpg


Yr Wonkette would just like to know: is there somewhere we can subscribe to a 24/7 video stream of the Colorado House of Representatives when it starts its next session?

Because one of our favorite crazies, (http://wonkette.com/532429/rejoice-wonkers-demon-obsessed-preacher-guy-gordon-dr-chaps-klingenschmitt-running-for-colorado-legislature) disgraced former Navy chaplain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

and nutso webcast preacher Gordon “Dr. Chaps” Klingenschmitt won election (http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/CO/53335/147971/Web01/en/summary.html)to the District 15 seat by a whopping 40-point margin over some sane Democrat lady.

Mr. Klingenschmitt is a truly epic figure — he was court-martialed (http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1270031990001/m/1480067282001)and kicked out of the Navy in 2011 for wearing his uniform at a White House protest, which gave him just the right “oppressed Christian” cred to become a national hero to wingnuts. At every opportunity, he explains that literal demons are at work in people he disagrees with, from The Gays to Barack Obama to public school teachers, and probably cable installers who don’t show up on time, because Satan and his Army of Darkness are everywhere.

Let’s just remember some of Assless Dr. Chaps’s greatest hits, shall we?



He knows why animals turn gay: (http://wonkette.com/473072/why-wont-the-navy-let-this-former-chaplain-explain-evil-spirits-from-homos-make-animals-gay) Gay demons leaking from gay humans.
He’s said that allowing a transgender kid to use the locker rooms of her choice amounts to visual rape (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/klingenschmitt-transgender-co-student-visually-raping-girls-using-locker-room) of other girls (and of course that demons are at work there, too).
He wants to exorcise the demons from atheist kids (http://wonkette.com/553660/demon-slayer-gordon-klingenschmitt-pretty-sure-all-those-atheists-need-is-a-good-exorcism)who objected to attending high school graduation in a church.
He has a real, practical solution to the problem of wedding photographers who are oppressed (http://wonkette.com/527440/sad-old-navy-preacher-has-cunning-plan-to-protect-innocent-wedding-photographers-from-the-gays)by antidiscrimination laws: if you’re forced to take pictures of a homowedding, just let your customers know that you stamp the text of Romans 1:32 on the back of all your photos, to remind them that homosexxicans are “worthy of death.” That should be a real hit with the straight couples, too!
He knows why the NSA is even a thing: (http://wonkette.com/525674/third-rate-teevee-preacher-tells-all-obama-is-possessed-by-demons-and-thats-why-we-have-the-nsa) Obama’s possessed by demons, and he wants to watch us all the time.
He’s warned that Sen. Al Franken “wants to require pedophilia (http://wonkette.com/541185/demon-obsessed-preacher-will-protect-you-from-al-frankens-pedophile-rampage) in all public schools, in the form of mandatory pro-gay lectures to all public school children.”
Did we mention the gay animal demons? (http://wonkette.com/473072/why-wont-the-navy-let-this-former-chaplain-explain-evil-spirits-from-homos-make-animals-gay) Sure we did. But you may have missed it the first time.


And those are only the ones we’ve covered here at Wonkette! Somehow, we missed his brilliant explanation of why “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” never should have been repealed: (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gay-soldiers-undermine-military-because-they-have-take-breaks-middle-combat-change-their-dia)

If you allow gays in the military, we’ll never be able to win a war again because of all that buttsexxing:

You see, soldiers will always be “taking breaks on the combat field to change diapers all because their treacherous sin causes them to lose control of their bowels.”

That’s just science, although we were somewhat disappointed that he didn’t also consider the possibility that gay troops would also be accompanied into battle by their fierce Anal Combat Gerbils.

And now Gordon Klingenschmitt gets to make laws. What a country!

http://wonkette.com/565581/gordon-klingenschmitt-to-slay-all-the-literal-demons-in-the-colorado-house

Repugs! :lol

Christians! :lol

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 04:47 PM
Exactly. During Obama's Presidency, unemployment has gone down, economic growth has accelerated, the budget deficit has plummeted, and millions more Americans have health insurance. So why don't people give him credit for his accomplishments?

Because of the color of his skin.
of course unemployment went down. was it supposed to keep rising from 10%...?

his cleanest budget deficit (2014) was at 492 billion, which is still higher than any year of any other president. much like the unemployment figures, its not much of an accomplishment imo.

and its a completely baseless assumption to say it is "because of race"

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 04:51 PM
Repugs! :lol

Christians! :lol
democrats aren't christians?

boutons_deux
11-05-2014, 05:12 PM
democrats aren't christians?

Repug Christians are a special class of theocratic Taliban nutters.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 06:56 PM
Repug Christians are a special class of theocratic Taliban nutters.
You didn't answer my question

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 07:08 PM
Let me ask you this: If working-class white voters were informed that the overwhelming majority of welfare recipients are white, instead of the single-parent black teenaged mother that they imagine it to be, do you honestly believe they'd still be as vehemently opposed to it as they are now? That's a simple yes or no question, and I want a straight answer.

I think welfare should be a safety net and not a lifestyle choice (regardless of the race of recipients).

Call me crazy, but I don't think a record number of people on food stamps is an accomplishment.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-05-2014, 07:15 PM
I think welfare should be a safety net and not a lifestyle choice (regardless of the race of recipients).

Call me crazy, but I don't think a record number of people on food stamps is an accomplishment.

1994 Contract with America thinking! YAY! That was that they were saying about the 'entitlement problem' back then. They want to be on welfare. Then policies along those thinking were shoved down are throats with Newt and then reality met with rhetoric and it was demonstrably wrong.

You sure are good at regurgitating memes. Maybe soon you will start thinking for yourself. Doubt it.

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 07:19 PM
1994 Contract with America thinking! YAY! That was that they were saying about the 'entitlement problem' back then. They want to be on welfare. Then policies along those thinking were shoved down are throats with Newt and then reality met with rhetoric and it was demonstrably wrong.

You sure are good at regurgitating memes. Maybe soon you will start thinking for yourself. Doubt it.



http://youtu.be/J6QOuoqeOFQ

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 07:20 PM
Democrats like to stick peoe on welfare where they stay dependent and loyal to them and then claim to be champions for the lower class. Vicious cycle. Brutal yet effective marketing imo

republicans are just as insincere if not more, but they're up front about it. They basically say ur on your own, get ur ass to school (which we won't adequately fund) and go get a job

ElNono
11-05-2014, 07:32 PM
I think welfare should be a safety net and not a lifestyle choice (regardless of the race of recipients).

Call me crazy, but I don't think a record number of people on food stamps is an accomplishment.


Democrats like to stick peoe on welfare where they stay dependent and loyal to them and then claim to be champions for the lower class. Vicious cycle. Brutal yet effective marketing imo

republicans are just as insincere if not more, but they're up front about it. They basically say ur on your own, get ur ass to school (which we won't adequately fund) and go get a job

Do you guys really buy this stuff? "welfare lifestyle" and "welfare dependent cycle"? :lol

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 07:52 PM
Do you guys really buy this stuff? "welfare lifestyle" and "welfare dependent cycle"? :lol


"Today we have an historic opportunity to make welfare what it was meant to be: a second chance, not a way of life." -Bill Clinton


"Today the Congress will vote on legislation that gives us a chance to live up to that promise, to transform a broken system that traps too many people in a cycle of dependence ..." --Bill Clinton

ElNono
11-05-2014, 08:00 PM
"Today we have an historic opportunity to make welfare what it was meant to be: a second chance, not a way of life." -Bill Clinton

"Today the Congress will vote on legislation that gives us a chance to live up to that promise, to transform a broken system that traps too many people in a cycle of dependence ..." --Bill Clinton

:lol Bill Clinton also said he had nothing to do with Lewinsky... Al Gore invented the internet... they're politicos.

But the question dodge is duly noted...

DarrinS
11-05-2014, 08:02 PM
:lol Bill Clinton also said he had nothing to do with Lewinsky... Al Gore invented the internet... they're politicos.

But the question dodge is duly noted...




Do you guys really buy this stuff? "welfare lifestyle" and "welfare dependent cycle"?




I do. I think there are some people on welfare who would rather work. I think others just want govt handout.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 08:09 PM
Do you guys really buy this stuff? "welfare lifestyle" and "welfare dependent cycle"? :lol
Maybe not as theatrical as I led on, but I don't think it's a coincidence that a clear majority of welfare recipients vote blue. Most people get off welfare in a short time period but there are those who fall into it tbh

while three in five people who were just beginning a spell of poverty came out of it within three years, only one-quarter of people who had already been poor for three years were able to exit poverty within the next two.[9] The probability that a person will be able to exit poverty declines as the spell lengthens. A small but significant group of recipients remained on welfare for much longer, forming the bulk of poverty at any one point in time and requiring the most in government resources. At any one time, if a cross-sectional sample of poor people in the United States was taken, about 60% would be in a spell of poverty that would last at least eight years.

ElNono
11-05-2014, 08:13 PM
I do. I think there are some people on welfare who would rather work. I think others just want govt handout.

Well, it's not a black or white proposition. A lot people work AND get foodstamps. Perhaps we need to take a deeper look at why is that.

While I'm sure there's some small amount of people gaming the system (which should be prosecuted), it seems to me that's an oversight problem not a problem with welfare itself.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 08:15 PM
Well, it's not a black or white proposition. A lot people work AND get foodstamps. Perhaps we need to take a deeper look at why is that.

While I'm sure there's some small amount of people gaming the system (which should be prosecuted), it seems to me that's an oversight problem not a problem with welfare itself.
You don't think there is a degree of complacency or dependency coming from it? Even so among those who work and get foodstamps

ElNono
11-05-2014, 08:23 PM
Maybe not as theatrical as I led on, but I don't think it's a coincidence that a clear majority of welfare recipients vote blue. Most people get off welfare in a short time period but there are those who fall into it tbh

while three in five people who were just beginning a spell of poverty came out of it within three years, only one-quarter of people who had already been poor for three years were able to exit poverty within the next two.[9] The probability that a person will be able to exit poverty declines as the spell lengthens. A small but significant group of recipients remained on welfare for much longer, forming the bulk of poverty at any one point in time and requiring the most in government resources. At any one time, if a cross-sectional sample of poor people in the United States was taken, about 60% would be in a spell of poverty that would last at least eight years.

What you quoted was exactly what the Welfare Reform that Darrin linked on the video addressed. But putting people to work didn't solve the problem. From the same wiki page you extracted that from:
Despite strong support for the idea that work will provide the income and opportunity to help people become self-sufficient, this approach has not alleviated the need for welfare payments in the first place: In 2005, approximately 52% of TANF recipients lived in a family with at least one working adult.

Maybe we need to start looking why having a job isn't enough. Or why do we need to subsidize Walmart employees with foodstamps? People could say, hey, you don't have to work at Walmart, but when you're on a tight labor market, that might not be an option, plus, somebody gotta work those jobs, right?

It's a difficult problem, that's why the "welfare queen" meme is no better than the "raise the minimum wage" meme, IMO.

ElNono
11-05-2014, 08:25 PM
You don't think there is a degree of complacency or dependency coming from it? Even so among those who work and get foodstamps

I don't. I don't think there's anybody turning down a promotion because it would cause them to lose their foodstamps.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 08:32 PM
Are there other underlying issues, of course. I don't think anybody here blames poverty on welfare. I do think it's telling that the longer you are on welfare, the more prone you are to staying on welfare.

spurraider21
11-05-2014, 08:35 PM
I don't. I don't think there's anybody turning down a promotion because it would cause them to lose their foodstamps.
Do you think a less lenient welfare plan would light a stronger fire under somebody's ass?

ElNono
11-05-2014, 08:40 PM
Are there other underlying issues, of course. I don't think anybody here blames poverty on welfare. I do think it's telling that the longer you are on welfare, the more prone you are to staying on welfare.

I think the disconnect is in thinking that because at any any given time there's a spike in recipients (which normally is tied to how the economy is doing), there's more 'dependency'. They're two completely different things.

According to the graph in that wiki page, the dependency rate in '05 was 3.8%, down from 5.9% in '93. Looking at those numbers, is this really a problem that warrants perhaps gutting welfare?

FuzzyLumpkins
11-05-2014, 08:41 PM
http://youtu.be/J6QOuoqeOFQ

I don't like Clinton, Gramm, or any of the rest of the government back then. They rode the public implantation of the WWW and the economic windfall. There policies came home to roost in the new millennium.

I know you are too limited to think of anything but bipolar politics but you not understanding is not the basis of reality.

ElNono
11-05-2014, 08:45 PM
Do you think a less lenient welfare plan would light a stronger fire under somebody's ass?

I don't know that it matters how strong the fire is... I'm sure those that are working and receiving benefits would like to make more money (which automatically exclude them from benefits). Sometimes, that's not dictated by them but by what opportunities are out there for them. (Opportunities being a lot of things: better jobs, bonuses, overtime, access to training/education, etc).

FuzzyLumpkins
11-06-2014, 12:26 AM
Do you think a less lenient welfare plan would light a stronger fire under somebody's ass?

No and there is empirical proof of this both in the Hoover and Clinton administration's policies. Go look up the aftermath of Newt Gingrich's Contract with America.

Darrin has been kind enough to cite several examples of that type of thinking from the era that was used to justify such policies.

spurraider21
11-06-2014, 12:34 AM
as ElNono stated, there are underlying factors that lead to poverty. never did i attempt to pin welfare as the reason for poverty. its a useful resource, but like we've seen throughout government, simply throwing money at a problem doesn't solve it. you can't take the poor folks, throw 'em a few bucks, and expect things to get better. its plugging the hole instead of fixing the problem. people get used to having the holes plugged and keep going along with the routine. this is why, as mentioned, the longer one is in poverty and on welfare, the more likely they are to remain in that situation...

this is why instead of a program that just indefinitely throws change at the poor, i'd favor a program aimed at teaching them how to take care of themselves

FuzzyLumpkins
11-06-2014, 12:44 AM
as ElNono stated, there are underlying factors that lead to poverty. never did i attempt to pin welfare as the reason for poverty. its a useful resource, but like we've seen throughout government, simply throwing money at a problem doesn't solve it. you can't take the poor folks, throw 'em a few bucks, and expect things to get better. its plugging the hole instead of fixing the problem. people get used to having the holes plugged and keep going along with the routine. this is why, as mentioned, the longer one is in poverty and on welfare, the more likely they are to remain in that situation...

this is why instead of a program that just indefinitely throws change at the poor, i'd favor a program aimed at teaching them how to take care of themselves

I think the real problem here is that there is no problem. GOP types like the bring up foreign aid and entitlements not medicare and SS when the real fiscal issue is the baby boomers retiring after running up deficits for the 40 years they dominated the electorate.

Reagan, Clinton, Bush 2, and Obama have all given massive tax cuts and when Bush Sr tried to raise taxes they voted him out. The Tea Party bullshit from 2 years ago was them once again and to mention cutting baby boomer entitlements is political suicide.

OTOH, voter fraud and AFDC abusers are the real problem. . .

spurraider21
11-06-2014, 01:19 AM
i never said that was "the real problem" its just one of the things i'm not fond of... one of many. and it's not just the abusers that concern me. i think that entire system is just lame as is

FuzzyLumpkins
11-06-2014, 02:29 AM
i never said that was "the real problem" its just one of the things i'm not fond of... one of many. and it's not just the abusers that concern me. i think that entire system is just lame as is

Social darwinism? Or you think there is a better way to feed people and support indigent families?

spurraider21
11-06-2014, 03:01 AM
Social darwinism? Or you think there is a better way to feed people and support indigent families?
no. as i said earlier, throwing money at them and hoping they take care of themselves isn't a long term solution.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-06-2014, 04:06 AM
no. as i said earlier, throwing money at them and hoping they take care of themselves isn't a long term solution.

so if doing nothing at all for the poor is not on the table then I am not sure what to tell you. They already have job training requirements etc. The states that tried the drug testing ended up spending a shit ton of money for nothing.

ElNono
11-06-2014, 04:41 AM
this is why instead of a program that just indefinitely throws change at the poor, i'd favor a program aimed at teaching them how to take care of themselves

What would that program look like, and how would it take care of the immediate monetary needs they might have?

ElNono
11-06-2014, 04:45 AM
I think the real problem here is that there is no problem.

IMO, this is what it boils down to when you look at the numbers for this "dependency problem"... does dependency exists? Yes. Is it substantive enough to warrant basically screwing over everybody else on welfare? No, it's not.

That's why I was asking if they "buy" the welfare queen story.

boutons_deux
11-06-2014, 06:08 AM
St Ronnie's "welfare queen" and "young buck" were lies, frame-setting that (black) people on public assistance were welfare cheats, were physically capable, and were not really "poor".

We heard the same thing a few years ago from VRWC stink tank Heritage saying if people have a TV, a/c, refrigerator, cellphone, then they are really not (Mumbai beggar) poor , but actually very comfortable on taxpayer support, mooching/taking.

More recently, the Repug dystopia NC (Tillis!) cut unemployment severely to force the unemployed to go get all those wonderful jobs begging to be filled. NC unemployment rate didn't budge, but of course the real
Confederate objective was to punish freed n!gg@s for being freed n!gg@s.

Nationwide, there are still 3 job seekers for every available job. Employers love that, over supply of labor keeps shitty wages shitty, and avg work week at 47 hours.

I don't think the Repugs "believe" the St Ronnie cheating, un-poor Welfare Queen lie (they know it's a lie, they fabricated it), but it's fundamental to the Repug strategy of destroying the safety net "for the non-poor's own good" while protecting/enriching their corruptors the BigCorps and 1%.

I can't find the poll now, but I read the greedy, tax-evading super-wealthy 1% say that they don't want their taxes that they can't evade to be spent on the safety net. More spenton jets, ships, wars (and other MegaCorps the wealthy invest in), sure, but not on the safety net.

ElNono
11-06-2014, 02:25 PM
:lol RIP supurraider... see you on the other side (in a week, hopefully)

FuzzyLumpkins
11-06-2014, 05:08 PM
:lol RIP supurraider... see you on the other side (in a week, hopefully)

I just noticed that too. What did he do?

FuzzyLumpkins
11-06-2014, 05:15 PM
IMO, this is what it boils down to when you look at the numbers for this "dependency problem"... does dependency exists? Yes. Is it substantive enough to warrant basically screwing over everybody else on welfare? No, it's not.

That's why I was asking if they "buy" the welfare queen story.

Yeah I am with you.

Thing is that the black/chicano woman having 10 kids earning AFDC and section 8 for each who will then grow up and vote democrat ties into the fear of minorities that is the basis of the GOP.

There are a group of white boomers that I work with and when I bring up how election day should be on a weekend and that we should make it easier for people to vote, they all state "I used to think like that but to tell you the truth I don't know that I want those people voting."

I just love white boomer men in Texas.

It's a real fear n the GOP and while certain segments recognize it, for example the RNC chair, but despite that they do nothing but try and mitigate the tide. Gerrymandering is a dike but the water level is rising.

boutons_deux
11-06-2014, 05:41 PM
None were going to be confirmed anyway

Richard Land Calls For 'A Two Year Moratorium On Any Confirmation Of Federal Judges'

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/richard-land-calls-two-year-moratorium-any-confirmation-federal-judges

I figure Repugs won't approve ANYBODY unless they are extreme right wing assholes.

ElNono
11-06-2014, 06:26 PM
I just noticed that too. What did he do?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240708

boutons_deux
11-06-2014, 09:11 PM
NYC pastor pushes fake claim that Starbucks uses ‘sodomites’ semen to ‘flavor up’ lattes

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/nyc-pastor-pushes-fake-claim-that-starbucks-uses-sodomites-semen-to-flavor-up-lattes/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
11-07-2014, 11:48 AM
New Anti-Gay Colorado Lawmaker Once Performed An Exorcism On Obama


http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/c_fill,fl_keep_iptc,g_faces,h_365,w_652/uxaz2503x8abvqmjtgmf.jpg

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/anti-gay-gordon-klingenschmitt-elected-colorado-house

Repugs! :lol

CO rurals! :lol

boutons_deux
11-07-2014, 11:56 AM
Oklahoma’s senator-elect to use ‘biblical worldview’ to defeat the national debt

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/James-Lankford-800x430.jpg


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/oklahomas-senator-elect-to-use-biblical-worldview-to-defeat-the-national-debt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Repugs! :lol

Bible-humpers! :lol

Oklahomards! :lol

Deficit PANIC! :lol So let's reduce the deficit, Ryan-like, by cutting taxes on the wealthy and welfare-queen corps while destroying the safety net.

It's how the Bible would do it, and that's how to live by the example of that wealthy, establishment, money-changer-loving, oligarch Christ! :lol

boutons_deux
11-07-2014, 08:59 PM
the nutcases and Uncle Tom's crawl out of the slime to join the right-wing losers 2016

Fox News Drops Ben Carson As A Contributor

Fox News said on Friday that it had severed its relationship with former pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson amid speculation that he's planning a 2016 presidential run, the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/11/07/fox-news-cuts-ties-with-ben-carson/) reported.

Carson is a major conservative activist and commentator, and he had joined the Fox News Channel as a contributor, frequently using his position to criticize President Obama.

A Fox News spokesperson told the Post that Carson understood the rationale behind the decision and that the two parties separated amicably.

Carson was reportedly preparing to air an hour-long self-promotional video “introducing himself to the American people,” ABC News reported (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/meet-ben-carson-republican-throw-hat-2016-ring/story?id=26735300). Fox's decision to cut ties with Carson happened inmuch the same way (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/scott-brown-fox-news) as it had with former Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown (R), who was a contributor for the channel before he launched a failed 2014 bid for a U.S. Senate seat in New Hampshire.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-drops-ben-carson?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

:lol The Repug field is gonna be hilarious :lol

Fat Bastard, Wombat Hair, the macaca, Kock Bros socket puppet Scrot Walker, maybe even Santorum, Palin is pallin around with running for something, :lol

Repugs! :lol

boutons_deux
11-08-2014, 09:04 AM
Allen West To Head Up ‘Think’ Tank. Stop Laughing, You Guys, It’s Not Funny. (http://wonkette.com/565798/allen-west-to-head-up-think-tank-stop-laughing-you-guys-its-not-funny)

According to a big ol’ press release, (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/allen-b-west-named-ceo-of-national-center-for-policy-analysis-281916231.html) come Jan. 2, 2015, the former disgraced colonel and former one-term congressman will become CEO of the “National Center for Policy Analysis,” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Policy_Analysis) a Dallas-based think tank that shills for the oil and insurance industries and thinks that global warming is a big conspiracy. And yes, it probably gets money from Koch Industries, (http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/global-warming-and-energy/polluterwatch/koch-industries/national-center-for-policy-ana/) too.

West is understandably excited (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/allen-b-west-named-ceo-of-national-center-for-policy-analysis-281916231.html)about his opportunity to continue riding the rightwing gravy train contribute to the work of this important institution:

“I am humbled and honored to have this opportunity to lead one of the country’s preeminent think tanks,” said West. “I have long admired the NCPA’s innovative research in health care, tax reform, entitlements, retirement, energy, environmental and education policy.”



“It will be policy, not politics that secures a sound economic future for Americans — with growth, opportunity and returning the promise of the American dream for this generation and those to come,” West added.


Translation: With revenue from my stupid inaccurate book (http://wonkette.com/545723/allen-wests-new-book-shaped-object-full-of-slavery-and-fake-founding-fathers-quotes) starting to peter out, I sure am glad I landed somewhere I can keep grifting off donors to rightwing causes!

Per the glowing press release:

Allen is a true Policy Patriot, bringing many years of public service experience to the NCPA. He joined the military in 1983 and served in Operation Desert Storm, Operation Iraqi Freedom and Afghanistan. Over his 22 years of service in the U.S. Army, he received numerous commendations and honors for valor, including a Bronze Star, three Meritorious Service Medals, three Army Commendation Medals and a Valorous Unit Award.


Also, there was the sudden end to West’s service in 2003, with an ultimatum that he resign or be court-martialed (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/12/sprj.nirq.west.ruling/) after staging a mock execution of an Iraqi prisoner, but they can’t be expected to include every little detail. Besides, he had to torture the dude, as he testified at his hearing:

“I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers,” West testified to a military courtroom of observers and some teary-eyed troops formerly under his command.


as West puts it: (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/allen-b-west-named-ceo-of-national-center-for-policy-analysis-281916231.html)

We want to align ourselves with the fundamental principle of governance of America as a Constitutional Republic and promote the principles of limited government, fiscal responsibility, individual sovereignty and free market economy. We should focus not on party but rather effective and efficient governing policy. We want our message to reach the kitchen tables of the everyday American.


http://wonkette.com/565798/allen-west-to-head-up-think-tank-stop-laughing-you-guys-its-not-funny#0yLRG8gghAZjUMf7.99

NCPA is just another Kock Bros financed VRWC stink tank spewing anti-govt lies in the network of VRWC stink tanks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Policy_Analysis

pgardn
11-08-2014, 10:16 AM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240708

He got caught in that net?
Damn that's too bad, he really is bycatch and should be thrown pack into the pond.
I know he was not exactly fond of my takes, but I enjoyed his.

They gotta let him back. Send Xmas and crew to purgatory.

pgardn
11-08-2014, 10:24 AM
the nutcases and Uncle Tom's crawl out of the slime to join the right-wing losers 2016

Fox News Drops Ben Carson As A Contributor

Fox News said on Friday that it had severed its relationship with former pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson amid speculation that he's planning a 2016 presidential run, the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/11/07/fox-news-cuts-ties-with-ben-carson/) reported.

Carson is a major conservative activist and commentator, and he had joined the Fox News Channel as a contributor, frequently using his position to criticize President Obama.

A Fox News spokesperson told the Post that Carson understood the rationale behind the decision and that the two parties separated amicably.

Carson was reportedly preparing to air an hour-long self-promotional video “introducing himself to the American people,” ABC News reported (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/meet-ben-carson-republican-throw-hat-2016-ring/story?id=26735300). Fox's decision to cut ties with Carson happened inmuch the same way (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/scott-brown-fox-news) as it had with former Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown (R), who was a contributor for the channel before he launched a failed 2014 bid for a U.S. Senate seat in New Hampshire.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-drops-ben-carson?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

:lol The Repug field is gonna be hilarious :lol

Fat Bastard, Wombat Hair, the macaca, Kock Bros socket puppet Scrot Walker, maybe even Santorum, Palin is pallin around with running for something, :lol

Repugs! :lol




Wombat Hair...

I like that, permission to use mighty twin buttons.

boutons_deux
11-08-2014, 10:31 AM
Wombat Hair...

(c) Jon Stewart

boutons_deux
11-09-2014, 03:33 PM
Breitbart's Attack On Obama Attorney General Nominee Goes After The Wrong Loretta Lynch
http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2014/11/09/loretta-lynch-lynch.jpg

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/11/09/breitbarts-attack-on-obama-attorney-general-nom/201511

:lol you right-wingers are so fucking stupid! :lol

boutons_deux
11-09-2014, 11:13 PM
Darrell Issa retweets photos of war criminals, Nazis, Timothy McVeigh while honoring vets


part of a Twitter campaign to celebrate Veterans Day, Congressman Darrell Issa unwittingly retweeted photos of war criminals, Nazis, and mass murderers sent in to him by Twitter jokesters.

Issa , the Republican representative from San Diego County who has pushed Congressional investigations of Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and other ‘scandals,’ kicked off his #AmericaVets campaign on Friday, posting a picture of himself (https://twitter.com/DarrellIssa/status/530807977998286848) taken when he was in jump school at Ft. Benning in 1975, according to the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2827121/Congressman-duped-retweeting-pictures-Nazis-war-criminals-Lee-Harvey-Oswald-publicity-stunt-hijacked-pranksters.html).

“Jump school at Ft Benning, 1975. Tweet your vet photos with #AmericasVets to celebrate Veterans Day! #FlashbackFriday,” the congressman tweeted.

Mixed in with photos of uniformed fathers, brothers, uncles, and grandfathers sent in by followers, Issa also received photos of Nazi Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, convicted My Lai massacre war criminal William Calley, and Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, all of which were posted on Issa’s timeline.

Under the photo of Himmler — architect of the Final Solution resulting in death of six million Jews — Butt C. Planet wrote, “ darrellIssa My late grandfather who served in the European theater in WWII #AmericaVets.”

Go-Gurt Darfur identified Lee Harvey Oswald as, “my uncle Lee in 1956.”

Alerted to the fact that he had been pranked, Issa or a staffer deleted most of the tweets, but a William Calley picture (https://twitter.com/unqualifiedman/status/530844728313401344) remained up on Sunday night.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/darrell-issa-retweets-photos-of-war-criminals-nazis-timothy-mcveigh-while-honoring-vets/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
11-12-2014, 11:44 AM
Ben Carson Will Crack Down On Non-Citizens Committing Voter Fraud By Revoking Their Citizenship

Carson also demanded that the government begin deporting undocumented immigrants for the extremely rare incidents of voter fraud… and revoking the citizenship that they do not have:

“Anyone caught involved in voter fraud should be immediately deported and have his citizenship revoked.”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ben-carson-will-crack-down-non-citizens-committing-voter-fraud-revoking-their-citizenship

boutons_deux
11-12-2014, 11:47 AM
Tea Party Texas legislator wants to enshrine anti-LGBT ‘license to discriminate’ into state constitution


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Donna-Campbell-via-Facebook-800x430.png

Campbell has proposed Senate Joint Resolution 10 (http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84R/billtext/pdf/SJ00010I.pdf#navpanes=0), which enables Texans to refuse to provide goods and services to individuals or groups if they feel that to do otherwise would violate their religious beliefs.
The resolution would amend the state’s constitution permanently to allow these types of religious exemptions. It says, in part:


Government may not burden an individual’s or religious organization’s freedom of religion or right to act or refuse to act in a manner motivated by a sincerely held religious belief unless the government proves that the burden is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest and is the least restrictive means of furthering that interest. For purposes of this subsection, the term “burden” includes indirect burdens such as withholding benefits, assessing penalties, and denying access to facilities or programs.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/tea-party-texas-legislator-wants-to-enshrine-anti-lgbt-license-to-discriminate-into-state-constitution/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Thanks, SCOTUS5 and Christian Taliban

so for this hateful nutcase, one has to pass her religious test before engaging in commerce with, eg, Christian Taliban.

boutons_deux
11-15-2014, 05:28 PM
Gov. Scott Walker: Refusing health care to low-income Americans helps them 'live the American dream' (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/14/1344926/-Gov-Scott-Walker-Refusing-health-care-to-low-income-Americans-helps-them-live-the-American-dream)


http://images.dailykos.com/images/6111/large/RTR377SC.jpg?1347660875

Defending his fellow Republican governors’ decision to block Medicaid expansion in their states, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) on Friday suggested that denying health coverage to additional low-income Americans helps more people “live the American Dream” because they won’t be “dependent on the American government.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/14/1344926/-Gov-Scott-Walker-Refusing-health-care-to-low-income-Americans-helps-them-live-the-American-dream?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29#

From the mouth of the monster created by Drs. Kock-enstein Bros.

boutons_deux
11-18-2014, 10:26 PM
House Passes Bill That Makes It Harder For Scientists To Advise The EPA (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/11/18/3593645/house-epa-science-advisory-board-bill/)

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/11/18/3593645/house-epa-science-advisory-board-bill/

To paraphrase pussy eater, "Is there any part of govt that the Repugs haven't fucked up?"

spurraider21
11-18-2014, 10:41 PM
:lol RIP supurraider... see you on the other side (in a week, hopefully)
:lol spurstalk

swastikas OK, merely suggestive comments not OK

He got caught in that net?
Damn that's too bad, he really is bycatch and should be thrown pack into the pond.
I know he was not exactly fond of my takes, but I enjoyed his.

They gotta let him back. Send Xmas and crew to purgatory.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/34/343de795dddb951ab89d8e9849457e6b0fa990b932c164f64d d4cec827d87f34.jpg

What would that program look like, and how would it take care of the immediate monetary needs they might have?
i don't hate the idea of welfare at all, i think its a necessary function for those who are put in immediate difficult situations. i actually wouldn't mind increased short-term investments, where in addition the checks/foodstamps they can get people in contact with employment agencies, or vouchers to occupational schools where they can get access to different jobs they previously weren't really capable of. i'm simply not a fan of prolonged or seemingly perpetual support unless its disability related at that point

baseline bum
11-18-2014, 11:18 PM
i don't hate the idea of welfare at all, i think its a necessary function for those who are put in immediate difficult situations. i actually wouldn't mind increased short-term investments, where in addition the checks/foodstamps they can get people in contact with employment agencies, or vouchers to occupational schools where they can get access to different jobs they previously weren't really capable of. i'm simply not a fan of prolonged or seemingly perpetual support unless its disability related at that point

I don't know man, you get them into Everest and that's just a debt trap tbh.

yJl0XuDKSjc

spurraider21
11-18-2014, 11:22 PM
I don't know man, you get them into Everest and that's just a debt trap tbh.

yJl0XuDKSjc
:rollin

ElNono
11-19-2014, 12:37 AM
i don't hate the idea of welfare at all, i think its a necessary function for those who are put in immediate difficult situations. i actually wouldn't mind increased short-term investments, where in addition the checks/foodstamps they can get people in contact with employment agencies, or vouchers to occupational schools where they can get access to different jobs they previously weren't really capable of. i'm simply not a fan of prolonged or seemingly perpetual support unless its disability related at that point

The bolded happens right now... even for people with disabilities... the concept of "perpetual" or not, it's just debatable. AFAIK, the welfare reform does require recipients to obtain a job within 3(? i think) years or lose the benefits. The problem here is that a lot of people do get a job, it's still not enough, and still need help. There are exceptions to this, IIRC, like WIC. But WIC is limited itself to the age of the child.

I just generally find that a lot of people complaining about it haven't really taken the time to look what the actual programs look like.

spurraider21
11-19-2014, 12:55 AM
The bolded happens right now... even for people with disabilities... the concept of "perpetual" or not, it's just debatable. AFAIK, the welfare reform does require recipients to obtain a job within 3(? i think) years or lose the benefits. The problem here is that a lot of people do get a job, it's still not enough, and still need help. There are exceptions to this, IIRC, like WIC. But WIC is limited itself to the age of the child.

I just generally find that a lot of people complaining about it haven't really taken the time to look what the actual programs look like.
i'm aware this exists in theory, but it hasn't been effective in recent years. the work requirement (or work preparation requirement) is pretty heavily supported by both the left and the right, but it's being lazily implemented. i think it has to be more heavily prioritized in any sort of welfare program.

http://www.heritage.org/~/media/images/reports/2012/09/bg2730/chart1pie.ashx?w=250&h=678&as=1

another interesting read on this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-obama-has-gutted-welfore-reform/2012/09/06/885b0092-f835-11e1-8b93-c4f4ab1c8d13_story.html

ElNono
11-19-2014, 02:49 AM
i'm aware this exists in theory, but it hasn't been effective in recent years. the work requirement (or work preparation requirement) is pretty heavily supported by both the left and the right, but it's being lazily implemented. i think it has to be more heavily prioritized in any sort of welfare program.

I don't particularly see what's the problem with the chart above. No Work Eligible Parent is largely disabled recipients (and that's bound to increase with the wave of baby boomers aging). From the rest, about half has work, half does not. About 75% of them do not meet the federal activity standard, which means they're set to lose their benefits eventually unless they change their situation.


another interesting read on this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-obama-has-gutted-welfore-reform/2012/09/06/885b0092-f835-11e1-8b93-c4f4ab1c8d13_story.html

I read it. I also read the HHS recommendation. I can't reconcile the content of the article with the HHS resolution. Maybe I'm missing something.

TANF was actually an extremely successful program in reducing dependence on welfare.

spurraider21
11-19-2014, 02:55 AM
TANF was actually an extremely successful program in reducing dependence on welfare.
no doubt, it's among of my favorite aspects of Clinton's presidency. the numbers since '96 had been pretty convincing, but the work requirement standards have basically been shredded. a lot of people who wouldn't have met regulations before now will.

and when you say those people who don't meet standards "will lose their benefits eventually" how long is that eventually?

ElNono
11-19-2014, 04:15 AM
no doubt, it's among of my favorite aspects of Clinton's presidency. the numbers since '96 had been pretty convincing, but the work requirement standards have basically been shredded. a lot of people who wouldn't have met regulations before now will.

But they have not been "shredded". This is what I found trying to figure out where that came from:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/07/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obamas-plan-abandons-tenet/


and when you say those people who don't meet standards "will lose their benefits eventually" how long is that eventually?

PRWORA requires recipients to begin working within a 2 year period. There's also a collective total lifetime limit of 5 years (which, IIRC, does not apply to children from parents that might have gone over the limit) for federal benefits. Some states have made some of those limits even shorter.

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 04:46 AM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241297&p=7682892&viewfull=1#post7682892

:lol

Repug governance, know How To Get Stuff Done! TN! :lol TX! :lol

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 09:15 AM
Chuck Norris: Obama allows public ‘indoctrination camps’ in schools without Christian holidays


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/yt_norris_xmas_141119a-2-800x430.jpg

In a column (http://townhall.com/columnists/chucknorris/2014/11/18/neutering-religious-holidays-n1919821/page/full) for Town Hall :lol on Tuesday, Norris warned that failing to observe Christian holidays was a “slippery slope” in public schools, and “we have to stop it before it is too late.”

Norris argued that a country where schools did not observe Christian holidays was “not the America our Founding Fathers created for us.”

“That’s not education but pipeline progressivism pumping out another indoctrination camp,”

“Chuck Norris’ point was, remember the time when American presidents weren’t afraid to talk about traditional values :lol as Ronald Reagan :lol did back in 1981,” co-host Steve Doocy opined.

“In such an honorable way,” Hasselbeck added. “Treasure to even listen to that.” :lol

“Makes you warm,” Doocy agreed. :lol

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/chuck-norris-obama-allows-public-indoctrination-camps-in-schools-without-christian-holidays/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

St Ronnie fellators, revisionists who wouldn't let tax-raiser, deficit/debt-increaser St Ronnie get past Repug primaries today.

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 12:56 PM
Utah Lawmakers Advance Bill To Bring Back Firing Squads (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/20/3594902/utah-lawmakers-advance-bill-to-bring-back-firing-squads/)http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Firing-Squad-e1410789503279-638x380.jpg

A Utah legislative committee cast a lopsided vote on Wednesday to allow death row inmates to be executed by firing squad (http://www.sltrib.com/news/1846892-155/firing-execution-squad-utah-lethal-death?page=1) if the state is unable to obtain the drugs it would otherwise use to kill these inmates by lethal injection. The bill responds to a nationwide shortage of these drugs (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/09/15/3567366/wyoming-lawmakers-back-bill-allowing-executions-by-firing-squad/), at least in death chambers, which arises from increasing opposition to the death penalty from the companies that produce the drugs and from governments that prohibit their exportation if they will be used in executions.


The proposal to bring back firing squads passed the state legislature’s Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Interim Committee by a 9-2 vote.
Utah’s decision to potentially kill people by firing several bullets into their heart is actually more humane than the methods several other states have chosen (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2010/06/shoot_me_now.html) to work around the shortage of execution drugs. Many states have turned to “compounding pharmacies” (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/09/15/3567366/wyoming-lawmakers-back-bill-allowing-executions-by-firing-squad/) to obtain lethal drugs, which often provide drugs of uncertain quality or potency. Moreover, in part because many professional organizations representing doctors and nurses forbid their members from assisting executions, the executioners themselves often lack sufficient training to prevent inmates from suffering while they are dying (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/04/30/3432495/oklahoma-execution-doctors/).

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/20/3594902/utah-lawmakers-advance-bill-to-bring-back-firing-squads/

What's wrong with an crazy big overdose of pure heroin? painfree, even extremely pleasant, and quick. And certainly cheaper than BigPharma or compounded poison.

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 12:57 PM
Incoming Nevada Speaker Said Democrats Have ‘Master-Slave’ Relationship With ‘Simple Minded Darkies’ (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/20/3595026/incoming-nevada-speaker-said-democrats-have-master-slave-relationship-with-simple-minded-darkies/)


http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Ira-Hansen-e1416502345721-638x371.jpg

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/20/3595026/incoming-nevada-speaker-said-democrats-have-master-slave-relationship-with-simple-minded-darkies/

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 07:59 PM
Kansas Secretary of State warns Obama might be promoting anti-white ‘ethnic cleansing’

The anti-immigrant Secretary of State for Kansas agreed with a caller on his radio program that a Hispanic majority might conduct “ethnic cleansing” against whites.

Secretary of State Kris Kobach warned listeners during Sunday’s program that Democrats were “replacing American voters with newly legalized aliens” to create “a locked-in vote for socialism,”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/kansas-secretary-of-state-warns-obama-might-be-promoting-anti-white-ethnic-cleansing/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

y'all Repugs have just 1000s wingnuts on y'all's side. racism, xenophobia, paranoia, anger, hate, what a bunch of cool cats. The kind of well-balanced, serious adults we need running our states and country.

boutons_deux
11-20-2014, 09:08 PM
Witchcraft-obsessed GOP county chair: Muslims must accept Jesus or leave the United States


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Jack-Whitley-Facebook-800x430.jpg

The chairman of a county Republican Party in Minnesota who believes that big government is actually a form of satanic “witchcraft” is not backing down from controversial comments he posted on his Facebook page about Muslims.

Big Stone County Republican chairman Jack Whitley said he opposed waterboarding terrorists because he believed that Muslim “parasites” should be killed.

“I am opposed to waterboarding muslim terrorists because it is a waste of resources,” he wrote Wednesday (https://www.facebook.com/jackandgwen.whitley/posts/983675584983169) on Facebook “They are muslims, they are terrorist, we know where they are from, we know where their buddies are, we know where thier mosque’s are, we know millions of these parasites travel to Mecca every year and when…FRAG ‘EM! Simplicity. I love when it all comes together!” [Errors are reproduced from the originals.]

The comments were first reported by the Bluestem Prairie blog (http://www.bluestemprairie.com/bluestemprairie/2014/11/in-facebook-status-big-stone-co-gop-chair-calls-muslims-parasites-writes-frag-em-at-mecca.html).

Whitley said Thursday that he would not apologize for his remarks. He said Muslims should either convert to Christianity or leave the United States.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/witchcraft-obsessed-gop-county-chair-muslims-must-accept-jesus-or-leave-the-united-states/

boutons_deux
11-25-2014, 06:32 AM
House Republicans just passed a bill forbidding scientists from advising the EPA on their own research

The "reform" measure makes room for industry-funded experts on the EPA's advisory board

H.R. 1422 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/1422), which passed 229-191 (http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/224615-house-passes-bill-to-reform-epa-science-panel), would shake up the EPA’s Scientific Advisory Board, placing restrictions on those pesky scientists and creating room for experts with overt financial ties to the industries affected by EPA regulations.

The bill is being framed as a play for transparency (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/11/18/3593915/grubergate-epa/): Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas, argued (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/11/18/3593645/house-epa-science-advisory-board-bill/) that the board’s current structure is problematic because it “excludes industry experts, but not officials for environmental advocacy groups.” The inclusion of industry experts, he said, would right this injustice.

But the White House, which threatened to veto the bill, said (http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/224615-house-passes-bill-to-reform-epa-science-panel) it would “negatively affect the appointment of experts and would weaken the scientific independence and integrity of the SAB.”

In what might be the most ridiculous aspect of the whole thing, the bill forbids scientific experts from participating in “advisory activities” that either directly or indirectly involve their own work. In case that wasn’t clear: experts would be forbidden from sharing their expertise in their own research — the bizarre assumption, apparently, being that having conducted peer-reviewed studies on a topic would constitute a conflict of interest.

“In other words,” wrote Union of Concerned Scientists director Andrew A. Rosenberg in an editorial for RollCall (http://www.rollcall.com/news/congress_must_block_these_attacks_on_independent_s cience_commentary-237993-1.html), “academic scientists who know the most about a subject can’t weigh in, but experts paid by corporations who want to block regulations can.”

The House, alas, is staying the course, voting this week on two other bills aimed at impeding the EPA, including one that prevents the agency from relying on what it calls “secret science (http://www.salon.com/2014/02/11/house_republicans_hold_hearing_to_expose_the_epas_ secret_science/)” in crafting its regulations — but which in reality, opponents argue (http://www.rollcall.com/news/congress_must_block_these_attacks_on_independent_s cience_commentary-237993-1.html), would effectively block the EPA from adopting any new rules to protect public health.

http://www.salon.com/2014/11/19/house_republicans_just_passed_a_bill_forbidding_sc ientists_from_advising_the_epa_on_their_own_resear ch/

Repugs fucking up EVERYTHING they touch.

Thanks, rednecks!

boutons_deux
12-03-2014, 12:19 AM
At Copenhagen climate talks, Jim Inhofe said Barbra Streisand was behind global warming 'hoax' (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/02/1348799/-At-Copenhagen-climate-talks-Jim-Inhofe-said-Barbra-Streisand-was-behind-global-warming-hoax)

With delegates from 195 nations gathered in Lima, Peru, this week and next to try to hammer out a global agreement on climate change for approval in Paris next year, David Corn at Mother Jones recalled (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/james-inhofe-barbra-streisand-climate-change-hoax) an encounter he had with Inhofe at the 2009 climate talks in Copenhagen. There, Corn asked the senator if he really believed that the thousands of people attending had been fooled about global warming. Inhofe said yes. Pressed, he said yes again. Corn nearly laughed and somehow managed to control his eye-rolling:


That's some hoax, I countered. But who has engineered such a scam?Hollywood liberals and extreme environmentalists, Inhofe replied.

Really? I asked. Why would they conspire to scare all these smart people into believing a catastrophe was under way, when all was well?
Inhofe didn't skip a beat: To advance their radical environmental agenda.

I pressed on: Who in Hollywood is doing this?

The whole liberal crowd, Inhofe said.

But who?

Barbra Streisand, he responded.


Inhofe only mentions Streisand once in his 2012 book, The Greatest Hoax: How the Global Warming Conspiracy Threatens Your Future.

He makes note of other celebrities he says are part of the "Hollywood elites" who he says have engineered a gigantic scam.

Yep. It has nothing to do with scientists who have spent decades studying the climate and come to the conclusion with ever-greater certainty that we'll be fortunate indeed if we manage to adopt policies that keep us at an increase of 2°C (3.6°F) given that the world's current trajectory is heading us for 4°C (7.2°F) or worse.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/02/1348799/-At-Copenhagen-climate-talks-Jim-Inhofe-said-Barbra-Streisand-was-behind-global-warming-hoax?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29#

:lol goddam, you right-wingers and your asshole Repug politicians are (are paid to be) stupid fucks.

boutons_deux
12-04-2014, 10:05 AM
For ABBOTT's THIRTY-FIRST SUIT (maybe it was RickyBobby's 31st) against Obama:

Coalition of 17 states sue Obama administration over ‘illegal’ immigration order

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/coalition-of-17-states-sue-obama-administration-over-illegal-immigration-order/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

... this is how Repugs pander to, LIE TO their racist, xenophobic, old, white, male, gun-fellatin, pissed-off rural base.

boutons_deux
12-04-2014, 10:58 AM
For the last four years,

Republicans in Washington have underfunded the Social Security Administration to the tune of $2.7 billion resulting in the closures of 80 Social Security field offices and 500 contact stations across the country. They are attempting to undermine our Social Security system through a depletion of services.

And when Republicans take control of Congress in January, they will push for a further reduction of services and deep cuts to earned benefits.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017229533

This how Repugs MISgovern, fucking up govt to the max to hurt Human-Americans, while rigging govt to enrich/protect/enable Corporate-Americans.

Fucking up govt, eg, undefunding / defunding, and bad-faith Congressional gridlock, is how the Repugs maintain the rigged status quo for their paymasters, while giving Human-Americans reason to say "govt is fucked up", hopeless, resistant to change and progress, so disaffected voters don't vote (to the Repugs advantage)

boutons_deux
12-04-2014, 05:31 PM
Utah Plans To Just Take Federal Land, Anticipates No Real Problem With That

In an unprecedented challenge to federal dominance of Western state lands, Utah Gov. Gary Herbert in 2012 signed the “Transfer of Public Lands Act,” which demands that Washington relinquish its hold on the land, which represents more than half of the state’s 54.3 million acres, by Dec. 31.

So far, however, the federal government hasn’t given any indication that it plans to cooperate. Still, state Rep. Ken Ivory, who sponsored the legislation, isn’t deterred.

“That’s what you do any time you’re negotiating with a partner. You set a date,” said Mr. Ivory. “Unfortunately, our federal partner has decided they don’t want to negotiate in good faith. So we’ll move forward with the four-step plan that the governor laid out.”

So why does Utah want to do this? Well, there’s hydrocarbons in them thar hills.

[A report] found that Utah would incur an additional $280 million in costs to manage the lands, but would bring in some $331.7 million in royalties from mineral resources development, mainly oil and gas. Currently Utah receives only half the royalties from drilling that is allowed on federal lands inside its borders.


former Sen. Bob Bennett (remember him (http://wonkette.com/414947/why-is-extreme-conservative-bob-bennett-going-to-lose-his-senate-primary)?) took to the pages of the LDS Church-owned Deseret New (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865596679/Utah-unlikely-to-take-back-federal-lands.html?pg=all)s to bring up a couple points that prove why the Tea Party wanted him out in the first place:

An effort to “take back” the federal lands within Utah’s boundaries was a hot political topic several years ago [...] “Taking back” something implies that it was yours in the first place. The original owners of these lands were the Utes and Navajos, followed by the Mexicans, followed by the U.S. government, which took possession of them after the Mexican American War and placed them in federally designated territories.

One of these, named “Utah,” stretched from what is now Colorado to what is now California. The first state made in the Utah Territory was Nevada, in 1864, in order to give Abraham Lincoln three more electoral votes. The state of Utah wasn’t allocated its share of territorial acreage until 1896.

Thus the chain of title is pretty clear. Again: first the Indians, then the Mexicans, then the federal government, but never at any time any Western states until it was created by Congress. When it admitted Nevada and Utah into the Union, Congress gave each one only as much land as it thought good and proper, as was its right. I don’t see merit in the argument that the federal government now has a legal obligation to give them “back” something they never owned.


http://wonkette.com/568283/utah-plans-to-just-take-federal-land-anticipates-no-real-problem-with-that

Mormon marans, typical religious freaks, just make up shit and call it reality. :lol

boutons_deux
12-10-2014, 11:59 AM
Rick Perry: The Bible proves that poverty is inevitable


http://media.salon.com/2014/08/rick_perry2.jpg

But Perry doesn’t see inequality as a particularly big problem, and he’s certainly not going to champion an all-out war on poverty.

“Biblically, the poor are always going to be with us in some form or fashion,” Perry told the Post.

While the governor conceded that Texas’ economic gains have mostly accrued to the state’s wealthiest residents, he denied that inequality was even an issue.

“We don’t grapple with that here,” Perry said.

According to economist Mark Frank, the top one percent of earners in Texas took home 21 percent (http://www.dallasnews.com/business/columnists/mitchell-schnurman/20140104-texas-is-a-leader-in-income-inequality-too.ece) of the state’s total income in 2011, while the top 10 percent accounted for half of all the state’s income. Frank found that Texas has the fifth-highest level of income inequality among the 50 states.

http://www.salon.com/2014/12/10/rick_perry_the_bible_proves_that_poverty_is_inevit able/

Bible humping in the service of the 1%

yee haw, Texas!

$19B/year in TX gifts to business

boutons_deux
12-11-2014, 10:22 PM
Rudy Giuliani Says Teachers Unions Are To Blame For Violence In Black Communities
http://i1.huffpost.com/gen/2370890/thumbs/n-GIULIANI-large570.jpg

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/09/rudy-giuliani-teachers-unions_n_6296038.html?cps=gravity

boutons_deux
12-15-2014, 10:09 AM
At White House Christmas party, Michele Bachmann asks Obama to bomb Iran (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/12/1351331/-At-White-House-Christmas-party-Michele-Bachmann-asks-Obama-to-bomb-Iran)


"Merry Christmas, Mr. President. I have a list here of other nations I think we should be bombing, I hope you'll take some time to—"


“I turned to the president and I said, something to the effect of, ‘Mr. President, you need to bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities, because if you don’t, Iran will have a nuclear weapon on your watch and the course of world history will change,’” Bachmann explained.

Hey, I was right.


According to the Republican congresswoman, the President laughed at her.“And he got his condescending smile on his face and laughed at me and said, ‘Well Michele, it’s just not that easy,’ ” she said.

“And I said to him, ‘No, Mr. President, you’re the president, it will happen on your watch, and you’ll have to answer to the world for this.’ And that was it and then I left. Merry Christmas.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/12/1351331/-At-White-House-Christmas-party-Michele-Bachmann-asks-Obama-to-bomb-Iran?detail=email

boutons_deux
12-16-2014, 10:35 AM
Maddow destroyed this asshole last night, for his deranged, super weird swan song Senate speech justifying blocking a few $Ms for veteran suicide program

Will Sen. Tom Coburn single-handedly block a suicide prevention program for veterans? (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/15/1352015/-Will-Sen-Tom-Coburn-single-handedly-block-a-suicide-prevention-program-for-veterans)


http://images.dailykos.com/images/45787/large/RTR1813E.jpg?1377209001

Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn continues to single-handedly block the Clay Hunt SAV Act, otherwise known as the Suicide Prevention for America’s Veterans Act. His reason: it will cost $22 million, and that's $22 million he doesn't want to spend.It's a bipartisan and very popular bill, and $22 million is, sadly, not a great deal of money when considered against the nearly $3 trillion-cost (http://thehill.com/policy/finance/227117-war-in-afghanistan-nears-1t-mark-report-says) of the wars those veterans fought.

note that the United States paid over $80 million to two psychologists to assist in designing the American torture program (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/09/1350553/-CIA-paid-two-ex-military-psychologists-who-helped-designed-and-run-torture-program-81-million). But a fifth of that for the vets, now that's where Tom Coburn draws the line.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/15/1352015/-Will-Sen-Tom-Coburn-single-handedly-block-a-suicide-prevention-program-for-veterans?detail=email

boutons_deux
12-22-2014, 03:34 PM
Right wing candidate: I know gays like animal sex because a ‘homosexual donkey’ tried to rape my horse
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/shutterstock_221036338-2-800x430.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/right-wing-candidate-i-know-gays-like-animal-sx-because-a-hmsxual-donkey-tried-to-rpe-my-horse/

right-wingers EVERYWHERE are ignorant, hating fucktards.

boutons_deux
12-22-2014, 04:28 PM
San Antonio GOP to consider whether non-discrimination laws violate biblical truths
The Bexar County Republican Party in Texas will consider a resolution that endorses the “repeal of our local governments’ pro-homosexual policies,” according to Out In SA (http://out-in-sa.com/bexar-republicans-seek-repeal-local-pro-homosexual-policies/).The resolution is aimed at a ordinance that was approved by San Antonio’s city council last year, which prohibited the local government from discriminating against individuals based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.
“This ordinance fundamentally is about ensuring whether you’re white or black, Christian or Jew, straight or gay, this city belongs to you,” Mayor Julian Castro said at the time. “This ordinance is about saying there are no second-class citizens in San Antonio.”

The resolution concludes with a threat to local officials and candidates who don’t support repealing the ordinance. The party will urge voters to “‘throw the rascals out’ and elect officials who WILL carry out the resolution,”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/san-antonio-gop-to-consider-whether-non-discrimination-laws-violate-biblical-truths/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

iow, Repugs will PERSECUTE anybody who doesn't hump the Repugs hateful interpretation of the Repug Bible.

boutons_deux
01-02-2015, 04:26 PM
Fox News: Pope’s acknowledgment of climate change reveals ‘population control’ agenda


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/fox-news-popes-acknowledgment-of-climate-change-reveals-population-control-agenda/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
01-02-2015, 07:28 PM
If Florida Counties Have To Marry The Gays, They Just Won’t Marry Anyone. Happy Now, The Gays?


If same-sex marriage is allowed, Duval Clerk of Courts Ronnie Fussell, Clay Clerk Tara Green and Baker Clerk Stacie Harvey will have no choice but to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. But to avoid performing ceremonies for them, these clerks have decided to end all courthouse weddings.


In addition, Santa Rosa and Okaloosa county clerks also made similar announcements.

This should sound familiar to lovers of Southern Politics. It’s pretty much like when Virginia shut down a bunch of public schools (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_resistance)rather than comply with Brown v. Board of Education, although if the Florida folks were really committed to doing it up right, they’d stop issuing marriage licenses altogether.

http://wonkette.com/570859/if-florida-counties-have-to-marry-the-gays-they-just-wont-marry-anyone-happy-now-the-gays#LPatwz6KLieXA3U5.99

Confederacy!

red states!

evangelicals!

Bible humpers!

Repugs!

boutons_deux
01-03-2015, 09:50 AM
The Year In Paranoia: The Five Craziest Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories Of 2014

2014 was a great year for conspiracy theorists running for office (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/get-ready-america-five-extreme-gop-candidates-who-could-be-heading-congress-next-year), but these extreme politicians couldn’t do it without the help of a conservative media bent on pushing outlandish conspiracy theories from the fringe into the mainstream. Here, gleaned from our weekly Paranoia-Rama (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/topics/paranoia-rama), are the conspiracy theories that shaped the year.

Immigration Insanity

While the temporary increase in unaccompanied child migrants coming to the southern border this summer has since subsided (http://www.sacurrent.com/Blogs/archives/2014/12/30/2014-while-child-migrants-surged-illegal-immigration-declined), the children fleeing violence in Central America provoked a year’s worth of fear mongering and conspiracy theories from conservative commentators and politicians.

One member of Republican National Committee speculated (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-immigrant-child-warriors-gay-recruitment-and-obamas-race-war) that the children were actually anti-American “warriors” who would soon “rise up against us,” an anti-immigrant activist suggested that they were child soldiers (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-impeachment-scam-obama-recruits-child-soldiers-and-ofa-gives-away-game)bent on waging war against the U.S., and

Phyllis Schlafly and Alex Jones told their audiences (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/jones-schlafly-warn-we-will-all-become-slaves-immigrants) to start worrying about becoming slaves to immigrants (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-parent-child-marriages-coming-soon-devils-united-nations-michael-sam-aiding-an).

Republican members of Congress came up with their own conspiracy theories.

Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama accused Democrats of using immigration as part of the party’s “war on whites (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-democratic-war-whites-cliven-bundys-divine-standoff-ebola-vs-gays),”

Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas said Democrats planned to turn the child migrants into illegal voters (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-fluoride-endangers-freedom-michelle-obama-transgender-and-louie-gohmert-has-it),

Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota warned that the government would use the immigrant children “to do medical experimentation (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-impeachment-scam-obama-recruits-child-soldiers-and-ofa-gives-away-game)” and

a whole (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-immigrant-child-warriors-gay-recruitment-and-obamas-race-war) host (http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/indiana-congressman-says-immigrant-kids-might-have-ebola/article_6cd84d69-3909-50d7-aa64-cc211b491795.html)of (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/07/phil-gingrey-migrant-ebola-vaccines) GOP (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/michele-bachmann-children-ebola-and-people-terrorist-nations-part-immigrant-invasion) politicians (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/10/21/3581826/nativist-roots-ebola-hysteria/) falsely claimed that the child migrants were carrying Ebola, a disease that has still not infected a single known person in Central America or Mexico.

Ebola Ebola Ebola

Is anyone surprised that conservatives cynically turned a disease ravaging West Africa into a political attack on Democrats and immigration from Latin America?

Republican officials and conservative pundits went as far as to suggest that President Obama would deliberately infect Americans (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/five-crazy-conspiracy-theories-about-ebola-conservatives-actually-believe), including military service members, with the disease as part of his nefarious, (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paul-broun-obama-may-have-purposeful-plan-spread-ebola) Big Government agenda (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gop-congressman-obama-wants-ebola-spread-so-he-can-take-control-everything), or to further his purported goal (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-gay-ebola-and-coming-anti-obama-coup) of (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-obama-orchestrating-ebola-epidemic-isis-arkansas-and-obamas-antichrist-secret) punishing (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/phyllis-schlafly-obama-intentionally-bringing-ebola-make-america-more-africa) America (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/10/15/fox-docs-racial-rant-obama-welcomes-ebola-becau/201168).

What Turned The Kids Gay This Year?

The right-wing adage that gay people “cannot reproduce so they must recruit” children is still alive and well, and this year many anti-gay conservatives continued to worked overtime to propagate the homosexual (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/linda-harvey-fears-lgbt-time-bomb-and-child-abuse) recruitment (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/michael-peroutka-gay-deathstyle-wants-recruit-your-children) myth (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-hitlers-super-gay-race-gun-tracking-bracelet-myth-another-bogus-religious-righ).

Televangelist Pat Robertson warned that Hollywood is turning children gay through “girl-on-girl movies (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pat-robertson-girl-girl-movies-make-young-people-think-theyre-gay),” while radio host

Kevin Swanson said (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-frozens-gay-manipulation-americas-demonic-curse-gay-breeding-slaves) movies like “Frozen”are trying to “indoctrinate my five-year-old to be a lesbian (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/swanson-disneys-frozen-satanic-push-turn-kids-gay).”

Gordon Klingenschmitt, a televangelist who was recently elected to the Colorado state legislature, said (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-satans-grammys-obamas-internment-camps-legos-anti-business-brainwashing) a Senate bill sponsored by Sen. Al Franken would “require pedophilia in all public schools” and “require pro-gay child recruiting.”

He even hosted a whole show (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paul-cameron-warns-gay-may-be-coming-your-son) about how parents should avoid interactions (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-obamas-ebola-plot-and-gay-isis-recruitment-strategies) with “a gay” lest he “recruit” their kids.

Conservatives also railed against Common Core and other education efforts by warning that they would turn (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-how-common-core-will-turn-kids-gay-muslim-communist-slaves) kids (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-immigrant-child-warriors-gay-recruitment-and-obamas-race-war) gay (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-homosexuality-lessons-bombing-mexico-and-great-condom-scam).

Gay Nazism

Religious Right leaders who hope to criminalize homosexuality and strip LGBT people of marriage rights and antidiscrimination protections are pretty sure that conservatives are the real victims of oppression. And they not afraid to use absurd historical analogies to prove their point.

Family Research Council President Tony Perkins charged that gay rights supporters are getting ready to “start rolling out the boxcars to start hauling off Christians (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-straights-forced-closet-las-vegas-false-flag-agenda-21-destroying-iowa)” to concentration camps,

Rick Santorum feared (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-lgbt-pride-month-edition-gay-gulags-reeducation-camps-and-hiv-cure) “reeducation camps” for gay rights opponents and

pastor Scott Lively claimed gay people are using (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-democratic-war-whites-cliven-bundys-divine-standoff-ebola-vs-gays) against conservatives “the same ‘blood libel’ used against the Jews by the Nazis.”

Others drew comparisons to slavery and Jim Crow,

with Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association alleging that gay people have become “our new slave masters (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-gays-invading-disney-world-obamacare-worse-911-very-evil-sex-ed)” who will “send us to the hole if we refuse the massa’s demands” and

“Trunews” host Rick Wiles warning that Americans “will be saves (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-santorums-new-nightmare-gay-slavery-and-obamas-malicious-intent-ebola)” to the newly powerful “homosexuals and sodomites.”

Wiles even said (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-hitlers-super-gay-race-gun-tracking-bracelet-myth-another-bogus-religious-righ) that gay people in America may soon realize Adolf Hitler’s dream of creating a “race of super gay male soldiers” who are determined to “slaughter” Christians.

Cliven Bundy Hysteria

Becoming vocal cheerleaders (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-bundy-ranch-showdown-gay-jihadists-fox-newss-fear-muslim-voters) for Cliven Bundy — a Nevada rancher and anti-government extremist who refused to obey several court orders to pay decades of back grazing fees — may not have been the best idea for Republican politicians and Fox News pundits (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gops-bad-bet-right-wing-lionization-cliven-bundy-backfires-wake-racist-statements).

Even Glenn Beck seemed (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/i-want-nothing-do-you-beck-tells-those-threatening-violence-anti-government-standoff) horrified (http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/04/24/youve-got-to-distance-yourself-bundy-under-fire-for-racist-negro-comments/) by the racist and violent messages coming from the Bundy ranch.

Bundy’s supporters, however, insisted that the government was using the Bundy standoff as a way to prepare for “civil war (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bundy-ranch-speaker-warns-civil-war-vast-scale-promises-harry-reid-will-have-his-balls-rippe),” “mass graves (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/edition-paranoia-rama-just-distraction-benghazi),” “FEMA camps (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/erik-rush-fears-federal-plot-put-cliven-bundy-fema-camp-and-seize-control-food-supply),” “tyranny (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tom-delay-hails-americans-picking-arms-nevada-fight-lawless-obama-and-his-tyranny)” and “jihad (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/todd-starnes-attacks-government-jihad-against-cliven-bundy).”

After all, Bundy said that God was on his side (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/paranoia-rama-democratic-war-whites-cliven-bundys-divine-standoff-ebola-vs-gays)

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/year-paranoia-five-craziest-right-wing-conspiracy-theories-2014

Ever scarier than the above madness is the Ms of American rednecks, NRA/GOA members, gun fellators, bubbas, etc who BELIEVE (ie, NO evidence) some or all of it.

boutons_deux
01-03-2015, 12:51 PM
Wearing Your Hoodie in Public in Oklahoma Could Soon Cost You $500


http://readersupportednews.org/images/stories/article_imgs14/014779-durant-010315.jpg

The idea of banning hoods is not new to Oklahoma, right now, there is a law banning hoods during crimes (http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=69810) that’s been around since the 20’s.

It was originally drafted to help combat crimes from the Klu-Klux-Klan, but people we spoke with say a new amendment of banning hoodies in public could open doors to a bigger problem.

They’re a common closet find, the hoodie.

“I’ve been wearing hoodies since I was a little kid,” Eduar Carreon, a hoodie user said.

Even Kevin Durant (http://instagram.com/p/mHI9i8TSkM/?modal=true) is a hoodie fan.

“21 OS 1301 has always made it a crime to wear a hoodie or some sort of disguise during the commission of criminal offense,” Siderias says.

Now, a proposal for an amendment to that law, could make it illegal to hide your identity in public. The fine for your fashion crime? $500.

http://kfor.com/2015/01/02/wearing-your-hoodie-in-public-could-soon-cost-you-up-to-a-500-fine/

As always with Repugs, tea baggers, libertarians, evanglicals, "freedom!" is only for them, oppression for everybody else.

boutons_deux
01-04-2015, 11:46 AM
Repug provocateur totally incoherent

Laura Ingraham stupefied by Obama’s popularity: ‘In defeat… he’s setting the agenda’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/fox_fns_ingraham_140104a-2-800x430.jpg

nservative radio host Laura Ingraham on Sunday reacted to President Barack Obama’s rising poll numbers by advising the Republican-controlled Congress that “gridlock” would help the country.

“In defeat, Obama looks like he’s setting the agenda,” Ingraham complained during a panel discussion on Fox News Sunday.

“I mean, his poll numbers are up. He’s got a bounce in his step…

He is rising in the polls (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/12/30/barack-obama-is-no-longer-underwater-on-his-approval-ending-the-longest-stretch-in-over-30-years/) as he comes off this near-historic defeat across the board.” :lol

“The Republicans shouldn’t fall into the media trap of ‘We have to work with Obama! We have to work with Obama!’” she continued.

“Obama is going off on his own. He’s going to sign an executive order, he’s going to close Gitmo, he’s draining Gitmo down.”

“Republicans have been successful and the economy has been improving with two things: gridlock and opposing Obama. The economy has been getting better!” :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/laura-ingraham-stupefied-by-obamas-popularity-in-defeat-hes-setting-the-agenda/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
01-04-2015, 03:54 PM
Tucker Carlson: Talk about this ‘white privilege stuff’ is ‘openly bigoted, openly racist’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/fox_ff_isis_welfare_141116g-800x430.jpg

According to Fox News host Peter Johnson Jr., Chappelle-Nadal was “perpetuating the race war that she announced in November.”

“I don’t know what she is proposing other than inflaming people over so-called white privilege and invoking the notion of a race war,”

” Carlson said. “It’s not just that she’s obviously an extremist, but she’s a race hater. She attacks people based on the color of their skin, that’s just not a good thing. That’s not moral. It’s wrong. It shouldn’t be allowed.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/tucker-carlson-talk-about-this-white-privilege-stuff-is-openly-bigoted-openly-racist/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

the racist privileged whites of racist Fox news! :lol

Scalise says he's KKK David Duke without the baggage, but in fact the white-privileged Repug party has become David Duke.

boutons_deux
01-05-2015, 03:52 PM
Fox, tea bagger history alert

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/large/public/tweet6.png

boutons_deux
01-09-2015, 01:52 PM
South Carolina lawmaker wants high schools to spend 3 weeks teaching NRA class on guns


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/south-carolina-lawmaker-wants-high-schools-to-spend-3-weeks-teaching-nra-class-on-guns/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

South Carolina! :lol

Confederacy! :lol

red states! :lol

Repugs! :lol

sicko gun fellators! :lol

boutons_deux
01-11-2015, 07:37 AM
One Lawmaker’s Sneaky Attempt To Keep Marriage Equality Out Of Texas (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/01/09/3609858/texas-marriage-license-bill/)


http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Texas-Rep.-Cecil-Bell-Jr.-638x425.jpghttp://www.house.state.tx.us/photos/members/2335.jpgWild West Macho Man cowboy hat!

State Rep. Cecil Bell Jr. (R) has introduced HB 623 (http://www.texasobserver.org/bill-aims-to-bar-texas-clerks-from-issuing-same-sex-marriage-licenses/), the “Texas Preservation of Sovereignty and Marriage Act.” It would prohibit (http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84R/billtext/pdf/HB00623I.pdf#navpanes=0) the use of taxpayer funds (including governmental salaries) for the licensing of same-sex marriage, and any employee who violates this restriction would no longer be allowed to collect “a salary, pension, or other employee benefit.”

The bill also prohibits public funding to “enforce a court order” requiring the issuance of a same-sex marriage license. In other words, if a federal court ruled that it was unconstitutional to deny same-sex couples marriage licenses, this law would still prohibit the only people empowered to issue those licenses from doing so.

Bell included in his bill a provision attempting to immunize the would-be law from any legal action in state court, guaranteeing,”A court of this State shall dismiss a legal action challenging a provision of this section and shall award costs and attorney ’s fees to a person or entity named as a defendant in the legal action.” Of course, it could then be challenged in federal court, where it would likely be overturned.

Like many anti-equality conservatives, Bell rejects the possibility that the U.S. Constitution protects same-sex couples from unequal treatment.

:lol “Texas is a sovereign state :lol

and our citizens have the right to define marriage,”

he said in a release (https://twitter.com/CBellJr/status/553236459868536834). “In Texas marriage is sacred and traditional families are recognized as the fabric of our society.”

Bell was one of

:lol 63 Texas lawmakers who signed an amicus brief back in August urging the Fifth Circuit to reject marriage equality, comparing it to polygamy, incest, and pedophilia (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2014/08/06/3468086/texas-lawmakers-marriage-brief/). :lol

In 2013, he co-authored (http://txhotsauce.blogspot.com/2013/02/which-of-these-texas-legislators-is.html) a bill that threatened to cut all funding (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/02/25/1633951/texas-republicans-threaten-funding-for-schools-with-pro-lgbt-policies/) for a school district that offered domestic partner benefits to the same-sex partners of its teachers and staff.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/01/09/3609858/texas-marriage-license-bill/

dumbfuck politicians elected by dumbfuck rednecks, bubbas, Bible humpers.

Cecil's district 3 hilariously gerrymandered:

http://www.fyi.legis.state.tx.us/fyiwebdocs/PDF/house/dist3/m1.pdf

boutons_deux
01-12-2015, 04:32 PM
this is just like Repugs sending UN-hater Bolton as Ambassador to UN

Senator Ted Cruz appointed to oversee NASA in Congress


http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/11/7528337/senator-ted-cruz-nasa-subcommittee

boutons_deux
01-12-2015, 05:08 PM
U.S. House Republican optimistic about Obamacare replacement plan
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/12/us-usa-obamacare-idUSKBN0KL29A20150112?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews

:lol

boutons_deux
01-14-2015, 07:01 AM
Senate to vote on whether climate change is happening
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/229381-mcconnell-to-allow-climate-change-amendment-on-keystone-bill

Repugs PROVING they can govern! :lol

boutons_deux
01-14-2015, 12:33 PM
from a SS newsletter:

Rep. Tom Price (R-GA), who now sits in Paul Ryan’s old Budget Committee chair, is going even further about his plans for Social Security. When speaking at a conservative conference earlier this week, Price said:

"Whether it’s

means testing,

whether it’s increasing the age of eligibility ….

whether it’s providing much greater choices for individuals to voluntarily select the kind of manner in which they believe they ought to be able to invest their working dollars as they go through their lifetime.

All those things ought to be on the table and discussed."

Raising the retirement age?

Cutting middle class benefits and gambling them on Wall Street?

That’s unacceptable. We can’t let Chairman Price and his Republican colleagues turn retirement into a luxury for the super-rich.

==============

The Repugs are intent on fucking over citizens and suckering them into handing the savings to criminal Wall st where they's lose $Ts in fees

OTOH, every Repug plan to screw up Social Security has been overwhelmingly POLLED AGAINST by the Repugs' intended victims.

boutons_deux
01-16-2015, 09:27 AM
do ya think she votes Democratic?

Christian Mom Alarmed That School Bus Tail Lights Form ‘Pagan’ Pentagram

To her, the pattern of tiny light bulbs under each brake light’s red plastic lens looked like inverted five-pointed stars, which form the ancient symbol of the pentagram when enclosed by a circle.
“Anyone who fears a God, if not God and Jesus Christ, should be outraged,” the worried mother told Channel 5.

“If you can’t put a cross on there, you cannot put a pentagram on it,” said Wilkins.
She believes the lights should be removed from the buses and replaced with a single red bulb.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/christian-mom-alarmed-school-bus-tail-lights-form-pagan-pentagram?akid=12692.187590.o4xlgu&rd=1&src=newsletter1030376&t=20

Confederate Bible Humpers! :lol

boutons_deux
01-17-2015, 08:46 PM
In bold speech, Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson explains why he's not 'crazy (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/16/1358222/-In-bold-speech-Republican-presidential-candidate-Ben-Carson-explains-why-he-s-not-crazy)

http://images.dailykos.com/images/84068/large/13044369635_a04f74393f_z.jpg?1400175073


Speaking to the Republican National Committee's winter meeting, Carson tried to challenge the caricature of him as a right-wing zealot by addressing—one by one—many of the individual controversies that have surrounded him, and dismissing them as lies from "the liberal media."

Carson defended, among other things, his statements about

Obamacare being the worst thing since slavery;

comparing present-day America to Nazi Germany;

and calling last year's Veterans Affairs scandal "a gift from God" because it revealed holes in the system."

I stand by those" remarks, Carson told the crowd. "I don't think there's anything crazy at all."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/16/1358222/-In-bold-speech-Republican-presidential-candidate-Ben-Carson-explains-why-he-s-not-crazy?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29#

boutons_deux
01-18-2015, 10:23 PM
Lindsey Graham Doubles Down On Claim That Obama’s Policies Are “Getting People Killed”

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frequent Sunday show guest Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) reiterated his previous claim that the policies of President Obama was “getting people killed.”

When host Chuck Todd provided him an opportunity to walk back his previous statements about the White House in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack, Graham instead doubled down on his harsh rhetoric and once again attacked the President. Specifically, Graham blamed Obama for the deaths that have occurred in the Syrian civil war and stated the release of prisoners from Guantanamo Bay would make things worse in the world.

“there are more Parises coming” unless we fully engage ISIL in a large-scale war in the Middle East.

The answer now is to deny ISIL the safe haven they enjoy in Syria and Iraq because it is a platform to strike the United States. There are more Parises coming until you disrupt this network. There are more terrorist organizations with more safe havens, with more capability to hit the homeland than before 9/11. The answer is to form a regional coalition, America has to be part of it, go in underground, and get these guys out of Syria. The current strategy is failing.

I think his policies are getting people killed. I think sound military advice was given to the president to leave a residual force in Iraq and he turned it down. And as a result, Iraq has collapsed. … Almost 300,000 people have been killed in Syria on his watch. Syria, the worst is yet to come. … Hell on earth is about to descend upon Syria and it matters to us. … Letting people out of Gitmo in this environment, I think is irresponsible. So yes, his campaign promises should be adjusted based on reality.


http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/18/lindsey-graham-doubles-claim-obamas-policies-getting-people-killed.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Lindsay, you Confederate racist old lesbian piece of shit, YOUR boys dubya, dickhead and all you Repugs DESTABILIZED the M/E, allowing ISIL to arise.

Getting people killed? what about the 1000s of US military all y'all Repug assholes WASTED in Iraq and Afghanistan?

And what about your claim the Obama was gonna let Ebola and ISIL "come kill us all"? :lol

boutons_deux
01-19-2015, 12:36 PM
goddam you rednecks, shit kickes, hill billies, bubbas, gun fellators, tea baggers are a bunch of stupid fucks

‘Cowboy’ conservative claims MLK for the Tea Party until liberals stop bringing up race


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“How appropriate that we are here right at the Martin Luther King holiday,” he began. “Martin Luther King had a dream, and it was a good one — a day when skin color wouldn’t matter anymore. A time when character would be more important than skin color.”

“But when we look at what’s going on in America today, it’s pretty easy to see that Dr. King’s dream got hijacked,” Finley continued. “I believe racism in this country would’ve died out a long time ago, except that some people figured out that racism can be very profitable — both financially and politically.”

“And now, those who are most vocal about Martin Luther King being their hero seem to be the most race-driven people in America. The left have mastered the art of turning every issue into a skin-color issue, character be damned,” he said.

“Manufacturing racism :lol for political purposes is a big business in the USA, and manufactured racism has been used to hurt the Tea Party from Day 1. There’s no doubt in my mind that if Martin Luther King Jr. was alive today the liberal left would spit in his face because he would be such a threat to their political agendas.”

“We are the people,” Finley said, “who practice Dr. King’s dream. It is the Tea Party where people are not judged by the color of their skin, and it’s Tea Party Americans who believe that character still counts.”

“So today, I am officially announcing that the Tea Party is taking Martin Luther King away from the liberal left,” he said. “And to you race-baiting promoters of division and hatred, you’re not getting him back until you renounce your shameful skin-color politics and start practicing the politics of character.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/cowboy-conservative-claims-mlk-for-the-tea-party-until-liberals-stop-bringing-up-race/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

He made up this shit in Confederate, racist South Fuckling Carolina! :lol

Repug/tea bagger/Fox message: "We aren't racists. There is no racism in America. Racism is FABRICATED by the left!"

boutons_deux
01-19-2015, 01:39 PM
Ben Carson reminds C-SPAN on MLK Day: Don’t forget that Obama is ‘half white

One of the callers said that he had seen Carson on Fox News, and had decided that the former neurosurgeon “should have been the first black president.”

“You embody what MLK wanted for the black community,” the caller insisted. “If you run for president, I’ll spread the word for people to vote for you.”

After thanking the caller, Carson explained that Obama had not spoiled a chance at the presidency for future black candidates.

“People say there probably won’t be another black president in our lifetime because of all the things that have happened under the first one,” he noted. “But my answer to that is, isn’t he half white?”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/ben-carson-reminds-c-span-on-mlk-day-dont-forget-that-obama-is-half-white/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
01-22-2015, 02:24 PM
GOP rep.: Keep minimum wage low ‘for minorities’ who aren’t worth more than $7 an hour


California Republican Rep. Tom McClintock said on Thursday that the minimum wage should not be raised because low pay was necessary for minorities and other unskilled workers who were not worth more than $7 an hour.

“It’s not supposed to support a family. (ideology! never trumped by facts!) The minimum wage is that first job when you have no skills, no experience, no working history. That’s how you get into the job market, that’s how you develop that experience, develop that work record, get your first raise, then your next raise, then your promotion.”

McClintock continued: “If your labor is an unskilled person just entering the workforce is worth say $7 an hour at a job and the minimum wage is $10, you have just been made permanently unemployable. That first rung of the economic ladder has been ripped out and you can’t get on it. That is a tragedy.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/gop-rep-keep-minimum-wage-low-for-minorities-who-arent-worth-more-than-7-an-hour/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

fucking assholes, every Repug politician, and almost all of their voters,too.

boutons_deux
01-22-2015, 03:22 PM
Confederate racist Jeff Sessions, asshole Alabama, to head committee on immigration! :lol

boutons_deux
01-22-2015, 04:31 PM
Mike Huckabee: ‘God’s blessing’ will make me president to stop the atheist ‘secular theocracy’


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Mike-Huckabee-at-CPAC-by-Gage-Skidmore-800x430.jpg

if he was elected president then he would have “God’s blessing” to fight a so-called “secular theocracy” that had been imposed by atheists.

During an appearance on the Christian Life Today program, Huckabee told televangelist James Robinson that he was considering a 2016 presidential bid because the country needed to become a “God-centered nation that understands that our laws do not come from man, they come from God.”

“It’s the natural law of God,” the former Arkansas governor said, adding that he was not calling for a theocracy.

“We have a theocracy right now,” Robinson interrupted. “It’s a secular theocracy.” :lol Evangelical Bible humping hucksters if not stupid as shit

“That’s it,” Huckabee agreed. “It’s a humanistic, atheistic, even antagonistic toward Christian faith. And that’s what we need to understand. Our basic, fundamental rights are being robbed from us, taken from us piece by piece.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/mike-huckabee-gods-blessing-will-make-me-president-to-stop-the-atheist-secular-theocracy/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Persecution!

Martyrs!

Quit blocking Christians from imposing their faith, morals, ethics on govt and everyone else.

boutons_deux
01-23-2015, 06:27 AM
Kentucky Republican says 1891 law lets him drive drunk while he’s in office

ntucky state Sen. Brandon Smith’s (R) lawyer argued in court on Wednesday that he should not be charged with driving under the influence because of a provision in the state constitution, WKYT-TV reported. (http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/Senators-attorney-files-motion-to-dismiss-DUI-charge-based-on-state-law-289443021.html?ref=021)

Smith was arrested on Jan. 6, the opening day of the legislature, and charged with speeding and a DUI after allegedly blowing a .088 on a preliminary breath test. He was also reportedly caught driving at 65 miles per hour in a 45 mph zone.

But attorney Bill Johnson filed a motion to drop the charges saying that, according toSection 43 of the state constitution, (http://www.lrc.ky.gov/lrcpubs/rr137.pdf) Smith should not have been arrested in the first place.

“The members of the General Assembly shall, in all cases except treason, felony, breach or surety of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance on the sessions of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House they shall not be questioned in any other place,” the section reads.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/kentucky-republican-says-1891-law-lets-him-drive-drunk-while-hes-in-office/

KY! :lol

lawyer whores! :lol

(Confederate) Repugs! :lol

boutons_deux
01-25-2015, 10:31 AM
Jindal: Amend Constitution To Stop Marriage Equality (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/01/25/3615196/bobby-jindal-marriage-amendment/)


Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA), a potential 2016 presidential candidate, mocked GOP colleagues for abandoning their opposition to marriage equality and endorsed a federal constitutional amendment to redefine marriage to be opposite-sex only.

On ABC’s This Week on Sunday, Jindal told host George Stephanopoulos that he continues to believe that marriage is “between a man and a woman.” While claiming to be against “discrimination against anyone,” he lamented: “Many politicians are evolving — so called ‘evolving’ on this issue based on the polls. I don’t change my views based on the polls.”

He boasted that Louisiana — one of just 14 states without marriage equality after Friday’s court ruling (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/01/23/3615155/federal-judge-rules-alabamas-ban-sex-marriage/) in Alabama — has a state constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. He said he hopes the U.S. Supreme Court doesn’t throw out the law but that, if they did, “I certainly support Ted Cruz and others that are talking about making an amendment, the Congress in D.C., a constitutional amendment to continue to allow states to continue to define marriage.”

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/01/25/3615196/bobby-jindal-marriage-amendment/

Repug rightwingnuts all trying to our-Krazy each other as the most extremist rightwingnut.

boutons_deux
01-25-2015, 09:24 PM
America's Dumbest Congressman says 'Selma' shows why we should fight 'radical Islam' (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/23/1359738/-America-s-Dumbest-Congressman-says-Selma-shows-why-we-should-fight-radical-Islam)

http://images.dailykos.com/images/32452/large/Gohmert.jpg?1368652256

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/23/1359738/-America-s-Dumbest-Congressman-says-Selma-shows-why-we-should-fight-radical-Islam

Y'all TX rednecks elect some real gems! :lol

East fucking TX is Bible Belt Deep South!

boutons_deux
01-26-2015, 03:29 PM
Colorado GOPer opposes anti-poverty birth control program: IUDs ‘stop a small child from implanting’

epublican Colorado lawmaker is opposing efforts to continue an anti-poverty program that provides IUDs to poor women because he believes the birth control method to be an “abortifacient” that would stop “a small child from implanting.”

The Coloradoan reported (http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2015/01/25/lawmaker-asks-colorado-pay-iud-program/22332677/) that Democratic state Rep. KC Becker was sponsoring a bill in hope of finding funds to make sure that low-income women continue to be able to receive long-acting reversible contraception, like IUDs.

The Family Planning Initiative pilot program had been funded by a $25 million grant from an anonymous donor. It worked so well that the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) estimated that the teen birth rate was down by 40 percent, resulting in $23 million in savings in Medicaid assistance to women and children.

CDPHE projected that the program, which would use $5 million from the state’s general fund, could save the state $40 million in Medicaid costs in the future.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/colorado-goper-opposes-anti-poverty-birth-control-program-iuds-stop-a-small-child-from-implanting/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
01-27-2015, 06:32 AM
Lawmakers Cooking Up Recipe For A Bloodbath

The very first bill being rammed through the Florida House of Representatives this year would allow guns to be carried on college campuses.

In the macho comic-book world where Steube’s imagination dwells, armed college kids will stand ready to whip their pistols out of their book bags and shoot down crazed campus intruders with flawless aim.

This delusion has been nurtured by the National Rifle Association, which owns so many stooges in the Legislature that a dozen others would have been thrilled to introduce the campus gun bill, if Steube had balked.

Florida is currently one of 20 states that prohibit concealed weapons on university property, the wisdom being that firearms don’t belong in college classrooms, football stadiums or booze-soaked frat houses.

Most of the remaining states allow universities and colleges to decide their own firearms policies, and — no surprise — the vast majority of institutions don’t allow anyone but police officers to carry guns on campus.

Seven states do, thanks to the NRA. Florida is next on its list.

If Steube’s bill passes, it would open the way for firearms to be carried at private colleges as well as public universities, although each private school would be able to implement its own weapons ban.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/lawmakers-cooking-recipe-bloodbath/

tlongII
01-27-2015, 10:12 AM
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boutons_deux
01-27-2015, 10:16 AM
http://file.answcdn.com/answ-cld/image/upload/w_688,h_457,c_fill,g_face:center,q_60,f_jpg/v1414596829/qkburqvyp8tpbtbry9zw.png

easy to say when you're white, blond, thin, shapely, and pretty.

boutons_deux
01-27-2015, 11:26 AM
Indiana, one of the nastiest red states, sets up its own Ministry of Information

Indiana’s NPR-hating Tea Party governor sets up state-run news agency to sidestep media

INdiana’s NPR-hating Tea Party governor is setting up a taxpayer-funded state media outlet that will complete with other media outlets.Republican Gov. Mike Pence plans a late February launch for “Just IN,” a website and news outlet that will publish feature and news stories written by state press secretaries,

Pence urged an end to public funding for National Public Radio in 2011 after undercover video recorded by conservative provocateur James O’Keefe caught a former senior vice president for fundraising making critical comments (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/03/09/134358398/in-video-npr-exec-slams-tea-party-questions-need-for-federal-funds) about Tea Party members.

“It’s time to end public funding for NPR, it’s time to end public funding for Planned Parenthood of America, (for) these organizations that have a particular viewpoint, that advance a particular liberal viewpoint,” Pence, then a congressman, told Fox News (http://www.lifenews.com/2011/03/09/mike-pence-time-for-gop-to-fight-on-budget-planned-parenthood/).

He pointed out to the conservative news network that NPR got most of its funding from corporate grants, but he said public funding should be ended to help cut the deficit and because its “biases are this clear and in the open.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/indianas-npr-hating-tea-party-governor-sets-up-state-run-news-agency-to-sidestep-media/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
01-27-2015, 02:59 PM
GOP Picks 'Voter Fraud' Conspiracy Theorist, 'Constitutional Sheriff' To Testify In Loretta Lynch Hearing

The Senate Judiciary Committee has released a list of the witnesses (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/attorney-general-nomination) who will testify at tomorrow’s hearing on the nomination of Loretta Lynch to be attorney general, and two of them signal the GOP’s intention to tie Lynch to their criticism of Attorney General Eric Holder’s efforts to combat racial discrimination in voting rights and law enforcement.

Among them is Catherine Engelbrecht, a Tea Party activist who founded the group True the Vote to promote the myth of widespread voter fraud and who has clashed with Holder over his defense of voting rights, or what she calls (http://www.truethevote.org/true-vote-statement-eric-holder%E2%80%99s-pending-resignation) his “radical, racialist assault on voters' rights across America.”

Also included is David Clarke, the sheriff of Milwaukee county, who has become a Tea Party hero for his criticism of protests of racial inequality in the justice system following a series of police killings of unarmed black men.
Both have become prominent Tea Party figures by voicing the line that racial inequality no longer exists in the U.S. and that the Justice Department’s efforts to stop voter suppression laws and combat discrimination in the criminal justice system are themselves racist. The Right cast Holder as the primary villain (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/right-enemies-look-back-right-wing-attacks-eric-holder-0) in this narrative, and prominent Holder critics such as the Heritage Foundation’s Hans von Spakovsky (http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/13/loretta-lynch-another-eric-holder-troubling-past/) are using some of the same arguments to attack Lynch.

Engelbrecht’s attitude toward voting rights protections was perhaps most clearly illustrated with her reaction to a bipartisan bill (https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/3899) meant to restore the Voting Rights Act after the Supreme Court gutted it (http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/shelby-county-v-holder/) in 2013.
In an email to supporters (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/true-vote-claims-voting-rights-act-encourages-race-based-segregation), Engelbrecht claimed that the effort to restore the Voting Rights Act — one of the great achievements of the Civil Rights Movement — was in fact a “terrible race based bill” that would “exclude millions of Americans from full protection of the law — based solely on the color of their skin.” She fumed that restoring federal voting rights oversight to areas with a history of racial discrimination in election laws should be called the “Voting Rights Segregation Act.”

Engelbrecht has worked to drum up support for harsh voting restrictions that disproportionately affect racial minorities by hyping fears of widespread “voter fraud” and recruiting armies of volunteers (http://www.propublica.org/article/a-reading-guide-to-true-the-vote-the-controversial-voter-fraud-watchdog) to root out suspected fraud in their communities. These efforts haven’t exactly uncovered the evidence (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/true-votes-voter-fraud-app-bust-undercuts-voter-fraud-conspiracy-theories)they’ve been looking for, although they have created hassles for legitimate voters targeted by True the Vote volunteers (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/us/politics/groups-like-true-the-vote-are-looking-very-closely-for-voter-fraud.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0).

Sheriff Clarke, meanwhile, has been a leading conservative voice against protests against police brutality and racial inequalities in the criminal justice system, and has expressed outrage that President Obama and Holder have
expressed some support for the protests. Clarke, who is African American, went on Fox News in November to accuse the president (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/283896031.html) of fueling “racial animosity between people” by supporting the protests and even suggested that Obama was encouraging protesters to riot “with a wink and a nod."

He also contended (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rights-favorite-sheriff-michael-brown-chose-thug-life-was-coconspirator-his-own-demise) that Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was shot by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, was a “coconspirator in his own demise” because he “chose thug life.”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gop-picks-voter-fraud-conspiracy-theorist-constitutional-sheriff-testify-against-loretta-lyn#sthash.BposGlzE.dpuf

so Repugs enlist two racists to testify against a black nominee. :lol

boutons_deux
01-27-2015, 05:28 PM
Boehner's preparing to sue Obama again — over immigration

But the DACA program wasn't controversial when it was first announced (http://www.vox.com/2014/11/19/7229439/daca-immigration-executive-action) — it's only become politically controversial in retrospect, as Obama started contemplating (and eventually took) executive action to give relief to a broader set of unauthorized immigrants. So the GOP didn't sue Obama in 2012, or even in 2014, over the existing program.

Suing him now over both programs would raise the question of why Congress is only now taking legal action over something that's been going on for years, if it really thinks it's such a dire threat to the Constitution. That's relevant to the GOP's legal case, and it's relevant to the politics of the issue as well — since the DACA program was pretty broadly popular when it was rolled out. (Polls are mixed on the new executive action. Depending on how the question is asked, (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/01/20/do-people-want-to-stop-obamas-immigration-move-yes-and-no/) Americans either favor letting Obama's actions stand — by amargin of 15 percentage points — or want it to be blocked, also by a margin of 15 percentage points.)

Is it legal for Obama to give relief to millions of immigrants? (http://www.vox.com/cards/obama-immigration-executive-action-amnesty-congress/obama-immigration-amnesty-executive-order-reform-legal-illegal)

The president doesn't have the authority to give anyone legal status in the US. But the current system gives the executive branch broad authority to decide what it wants to prioritize when it comes to immigration enforcement.

That's why deportations have increased so much over the last twenty years (http://www.vox.com/2014/4/9/5575006/2-million-immigrants-have-been-deported-under-obama), despite no substantial changes to the law. But it also means Congress has given the Department of Homeland Security a few tools to keep unauthorized immigrants from getting deported.

One of those is deferred action, which is the basis for the new executive action — as well as the DACA program for young unauthorized immigrants. Deferred action has been around for decades (http://sites.duke.edu/daca/historical-context/)to protect immigrants from deportation in particularly compelling cases.

Relief from deportation is usually granted on a case-by-case basis, but it's been granted to groups of people before (http://www.vox.com/2014/11/20/7254361/family-fairness-immigration) — albeit to many fewer immigrants than Obama has.

http://www.vox.com/2015/1/27/7922525/congress-lawsuit-immigration

boutons_deux
01-28-2015, 06:49 AM
nasty red state Indiana, just being nasty as ever

Indiana Solar Bill Crafted By Utilities Sparks Outrage, Raises Costs (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/01/27/3615496/indiana-bill-could-quash-solar/)

Large utilities and state legislators in Indiana have joined together to push for a bill that undermines state oversight of the electric utility industry and makes distributed and rooftop solar less appealing to consumers. HB 1320 (http://www.eenews.net/assets/2015/01/15/document_ew_04.pdf), proposed by state Rep. Eric Koch (R), would lower the amount of money solar customers get for selling excess power back to the grid while also allowing utilities to add a fixed monthly charge to solar users’ bills, as well as interconnection fees.

“This is clearly an attack by utilities on customers’ energy choices in an attempt to restrict the freedom of individuals to lower their power bills,

there are only about 500 solar customers in Indiana and that this is a “concerted effort to quash the industry” before it gets on its feet.

In Indiana, switching from the retail rate to the avoided cost rate could cut the amount (http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/01/25/need-pay-attention-solar-energy-legislation/22321271/) solar producers earn by as much as 60 to 70 percent.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/01/27/3615496/indiana-bill-could-quash-solar/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climateprogress%2FlCrX+%28Cli mate+Progress%29

Indiana, racing to the bottom, like any solid RED STATE

In distributed-solar-shitty SA, there are over 1000 buildings with solar panels.

boutons_deux
01-28-2015, 05:34 PM
Potential GOP Presidential Nominee Says Bakers Who Oppose Gay Marriage May Poison Wedding Cakes


' So, you know, they can go right down the street and buy a cake, but no, let's bring a suit against this person because I want themto make my cake, even though they don't believe in it.




"Which is really not that smart," he quipped, "because they might put poison in your cake."


http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/potential-gop-presidential-nominee-says-bakers-who-oppose-gay-marriage-may-poison?akid=12729.187590.ZoDH4W&rd=1&src=newsletter1031021&t=5

boutons_deux
01-30-2015, 03:38 PM
Texas Republican Knows Teachers Need To Do A Little Killing Sometimes, For The Kids

Texas state Rep. Dan Flynn (R-No duh) has introduced the illiterately named Teacher’s [sic] Protection Act (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/01/29/3617031/deadly-force-in-texas-classrooms/), though no word yet on who that single teacher is exactly.

The bill would authorize teachers — who, unless you forgot, are already authorized to carry loaded guns in Texas classrooms — to use “force or deadly force on school property, on a school bus, or at a school-sponsored event in defense of the educator’s person or in defense of students of the school that employs the educator.”

Basically, if you feel like you or one of your students is threatened, you have the right to be judge, jury, and executioner, and all for the low low price of a bachelor’s degree!

No for real: Texas law only requires that a prospective teacher have a bachelor’s degree in the field they wish to teach (http://teach.com/states/become-a-teacher-in-texas), whether or not they have any formal teaching education.

Who knew it was so easy to score a license to kill? You may remember Texas as a teacher’s paradise, and with good reason.

The state is one of the few in the nation that gives teachers the choice to teach that the Bible is the 100% inerrant word of God (http://wonkette.com/498137/texas-schools-implement-carefully-crafted-law-by-teaching-bible-as-100-fact), or that the Bible just helped to write the Constitution (http://wonkette.com/560133/new-texas-schoolbooks-moses-wrote-the-constitution-for-slavery-segregation).

So freedom! Thus it makes sense that Texas would only fuel inject the amount of Freedom™ Texas teachers have by letting them get away with stone cold murder.

This isn’t the first time Flynn’s wanted to squirt even more Freedom™ (http://daflynn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/9.5.13-Review-2nd-Amendment-BillsPHOTO.pdf) over the Second Amendment.

He previously

pushed to let people bring guns on college campuses,

successfully cut the required training hours for a concealed handgun license by as much as two-thirds, and

removed that pesky provision in the law that required people to take a class and prove they could actually still use a handgun before they renewed their concealed handgun license.

That burdensome “learning” requirement was instead replaced with a pamphlet on gun safety that they would have to sign, and that’s all. Gun training in Texas operates on the same principle as the Apple Terms and Conditions. Responsible gun ownership in action!

Perhaps in one of the more Kochian passages of Flynn’s bill (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/01/29/3617031/deadly-force-in-texas-classrooms/),teachers could also use deadly force “in defense of property of the school that employs the educator.”

So if you catch somebody breaking open a school vending machine just to get the candy like a freaking Degrassi villain, get ready to lock and load. Objects are officially worth more than people, yeehaw!

Futhermore, “civil immunity would be granted to those who use deadly force, meaning they would not be liable for the injury or death of student [sic].”

Now hold up just a minute there, pardner. Who said anything about shooting students? Despite much national headlining to the contrary, the bill does not give teachers the right to murder their students (http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2015/01/bill-would-allow-texas-teachers-to-use-deadly-force-against-students/). That would just be cartoonishly evil.

Congress bumpkin Flynn added in a helpful addendum to the bill specifying “use of force, but not deadly force, against a (student) is justified,” which is crystal clear and can’t be misinterpreted at all, just like those Stand Your Ground laws.

http://wonkette.com/574462/texas-republican-knows-teachers-need-to-do-a-little-killing-sometimes-for-the-kids#A1ym5S3dEEzjMa1V.99

boutons_deux
01-31-2015, 08:45 AM
Texas May Slash Cancer Screenings For Low-Income Women (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/01/29/3617158/texas-budget-cancer-planned-parenthood/)

After passing some of the most sweeping anti-abortion measures (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/07/18/3461773/texas-abortion-law-anniversary/) in the country and effectively defunding Planned Parenthood (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/08/16/699031/attacks-on-planned-parenthood-in-texas-forced-at-least-50-unaffiliated-health-clinics-to-close/), anti-choice lawmakers in the Lone Star State aren’t done yet.

This week, the Texas Senate filed a draft budget (http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/planned-parenthood-facing-more-state-funding-cuts/njyrT/) that would restructure the state’s Breast and Cervical Cancer Screening program to prevent Planned Parenthood from participating. Abortion opponents have been pushing for the change (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20150110-anti-abortion-groups-target-planned-parenthoods-role-in-cancer-screening-program.ece) as a way of continuing to target the national women’s health organization, in an ongoing crusade to cut off funds from abortion providers.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/01/29/3617158/texas-budget-cancer-planned-parenthood/

boutons_deux
01-31-2015, 09:45 AM
West Virginia Legislation Would Criminalize Teaching Social Problems First

Legislation was introduced this week in the West Virginia House of Delegates (HB 2107) that would prohibit the teaching of “social problems, economics, foreign affairs, the United Nations, world government, socialism or communism until basic courses in American state and local geography and history are completed.”

And if the teacher teaches “social problems” first?

He or she will be charged with a misdemeanor crime and fined.

And then fired.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/01/31/west-virginia-legislation-would-criminalize-teaching-social-problems-first

:lol fucking Repugs, fucking Repug voters :lol

Freedom! :lol

Govt Overreach! :lol

boutons_deux
02-02-2015, 12:56 PM
How In the World Did This Man Raise $12 Million to Draft Ben Carson?


http://www.motherjones.com/files/imagecache/top-of-content-main/vernonrobinson_0.jpg

Dr. Ben Carson, the neurosurgeon, author, tea party hero, and Stuck On You star (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0990442/), is contemplating a presidential bid (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/meet-ben-carson-republican-throw-hat-2016-ring/story?id=26735300) in 2016. He's being cheered on by conservative activists—and by the National Draft Ben Carson for President Committee, a super PAC founded in 2013 to urge Carson to run. The PAC sends out emails touting Carson, gathers signatures for petitions aimed at coaxing him into the race, and it raises money from conservatives enthralled with the prospect of a Carson presidency. A lot of money.

According to Federal Election Commission filings, the Draft Carson PAC has raised an impressive $12.2 million since its founding—slightly more than Ready for Hillary (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/ready-for-hillary-clinton-super-pac), the pro-Hillary Clinton super PAC.

Draft Carson has, in fact, done very little besides fundraise.

The guy responsible for collecting and managing Draft Carson's huge haul is Vernon Robinson, the PAC's political director and a notorious, perennial candidate with a history of rabid anti-immigrant rhetoric.

An African-American, ex-Air Force officer from North Carolina, Robinson has repeatedly run unsuccessful campaigns for Congress. He calls himself "the black Jesse Helms" (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/apr/13/20040413-121701-4791r/?page=all) — a comparison the director of the late senator's foundation declared "sad." (http://www.newsobserver.com/welcome_page/?shf=/2011/12/20/1721606_rep-foxx-rebukes-hss-for-cost.html) His congressional campaign ads—one of which (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE3SNHGMa10) characterized undocumented immigrants as flag-burners and sex offenders—are so out-there that political science professors use them to illustrate mudslinging at its dirtiest.

In 2006, a Republican running against Robinson in a House primary said that he "scares me." (http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2006/04/27/gop-style-cited-as-sticking-point/) But win or (almost always) lose, the common thread in his political career has been remarkable fundraising success, with a big chunk of the proceeds Robinson has raised flowing to a small camp of conservative fundraisers, and sometimes, himself.


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/draft-ben-carson-vernon-robinson

wingnut Carson being fundraised by another wingnut. :lol

boutons_deux
02-04-2015, 04:32 PM
the REAL IRS scandal, and it's a 100% REPUG scandal

A Tax Cut For Tax Cheats

If the most frequently dialed federal agency in America can’t even answer two-thirds of the millions of phone calls it gets, should the government cut its budget?

Congress thinks so. That agency is the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). And lawmakers have hacked at its budget yet again.

Worse still, those cuts will cost more money than they’ll save. They’re basically “a tax cut to tax cheats,” said IRS commissioner John Koskinen.

Regardless of your feelings about the IRS, Koskinen is right.

The government has slashed (http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archive/2014/12/cutting_the_irs_budget_is_a_lo.php#.VLSDsEv5_1o) the enforcement portion of the IRS budget by nearly 20 percent over the last five years. That’s forcing the IRS to shrink (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/catherine-rampell-as-congress-cripples-the-irs-tax-rates-are-likely-to-rise/2014/12/15/a7a30754-8476-11e4-b9b7-b8632ae73d25_story.html?hpid=z3) the number of employees working on enforcement by 15 percent.

Talk about being penny wise and pound foolish. For every dollar the IRS spent in 2013, it collected $255 (http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/National-Taxpayer-Advocate-Delivers-Annual-Report-to-Congress;-Focuses-on-Taxpayer-Bill-of-Rights-and-IRS-Funding), according to National Taxpayer Advocate Nina Olson.

“It is difficult to see how the CEO would keep his job if he chose not to provide the department with the funding it needed,” Olson said.

Yet, she noted, “that is essentially what has been happening with respect to IRS funding.” Congress has slashed the IRS budget four times in five years. And those cuts are feeding the budget deficit that conservatives supposedly fret about.

It’s all about political expedience. Remember when the IRS faced accusations of singling out conservative nonprofits for tax scrutiny? Along with other experts, I predicted (http://otherwords.org/the-real-irs-scandal/) that it would spur further IRS budget cuts. Now Republican lawmakers are taking their revenge.

The Republican Party is fundraising on the promise of abolishing the IRS altogether, as Citizens for Tax Justice reports (http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archive/2014/12/cutting_the_irs_budget_is_a_lo.php#.VLSDsEv5_1o).

http://www.nationalmemo.com/tax-cut-tax-cheats/

boutons_deux
02-05-2015, 04:31 PM
another Kockenstein tea baggin monster

Bobby Jindal Says Education Vital To Democracy As He Cuts Hundreds Of Millions From Schools (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/02/05/3619958/bobby-jindal-education-speech/)


Louisiana Governor and likely presidential candidate Bobby Jindal told a conservative audience in DC on Wednesday that public education is a fundamental pillar of American democracy.

“Why is it important to fund and support public education?” he asked the attendees of the American Principles Project’s conference. “Because if we want to keep the republic we have, our republic can only be as good as our citizens. So we need an educated population with critical thinking skills. We need to train citizens to be responsible, functioning adults. I always hear from parents, from the Chamber of Commerce, from business groups that we’ve got to fund education.”

But Jindal, whose mother studied at Louisiana State University after immigrating from India, is currently trying to cut the budget of the state colleges by as much as $300 million — nearly a third (http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/01/what_does_it_mean_to_cut_300_m.html) of the system’s current budget.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/02/05/3619958/bobby-jindal-education-speech/

boutons_deux
02-05-2015, 10:50 PM
Republican Lawmaker Not Sure Sex With Unconscious People Really Is Rape

Utah State Representative Brian Greene, while considering a bill that would ensure unconscious victims are protected under the legal definition of sexual assault, expressed a few concerns. Namely, his belief that there are special cases in which having sex with someone who is out cold might not really be rape.

“I hope this wouldn’t happen, but this opens to door to it,” Greene begins in a video of the hearing. “An individual has sex with their wife while she is unconscious—or he, if that’s possible, I don’t know—a prosecutor could then charge that spouse with rape.”

Yes, indeed, a prosecutor could! Because that is literally and precisely how rape works.

should you pass out in the company of a lover or spouse—or an ex, even—with whom you've previously had sex, it’s pretty much impossible to be raped. What’s that? You were literally too incapacitated to possibly be able to give consent? Greene still isn’t sure that qualifies as “rape" rape.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/republican-lawmaker-not-sure-sex-unconscious-person-really-rape

boutons_deux
02-06-2015, 04:03 PM
http://assets.democrats.org/digital/email/20150206_impeachment_v2_04.png

boutons_deux
02-06-2015, 05:05 PM
Ted Nugent: Sarah Palin The 'Perfect Example' Of Founding Fathers' Vision

“She is my hero,” Nugent said of the former half-term Alaska governor. “Sarah Palin is the perfect example of what our Founding Fathers envisioned for an experiment in self-government.”

Nugent was especially impressed by Palin’s decision to resign midway through her first term as governor: “She quit because the left hate machine was so overwhelming her with frivolous litigation that she did the most courageous thing in the world and she handed her governor duties to the lieutenant governor while she was taking on this hate onslaught of the left so that Alaska would be properly served by someone who could pay attention to the responsibilities of the office of government while she was fighting off the leftist mongrels. She’s my hero.”

After plugging Palin’s new TV show, Nugent gushed that she is “an amazing American and she brings forth so much good that the general media would not bring forth, she’s a reminder that the heart and soul of working-hard, playing-hard, being-the-best-that-you-can-be America is alive and well.”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ted-nugent-sarah-palin-perfect-example-founding-fathers-vision

NRA marans :lol

boutons_deux
02-06-2015, 05:07 PM
Ann Coulter: Colleges spend their days “indoctrinating kids to hate Republicans”

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/06/ann_coulter_colleges_spend_their_days_indoctrinati ng_kids_to_hate_republicans/

boutons_deux
02-08-2015, 11:58 AM
Fox host: FEMA is unnecessary because Walmart will ‘spontaneously’ save us all in a disaster

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/fox-host-fema-is-unnecessary-because-walmart-will-spontaneously-save-us-all-in-a-disaster/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

... for a price!

boutons_deux
02-08-2015, 02:17 PM
Ted Cruz: ‘Reality’ is that GOP helps ‘hurting’ people and Democrats are party of ‘the top 1 percent’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/ted-cruz-reality-is-that-gop-helps-hurting-people-and-democrats-are-party-of-the-top-1-percent/

For such a clever fellow, Krazy Kruz is certainly a sonofabitchin LIAR (and he knows it)

boutons_deux
02-08-2015, 03:01 PM
Fox ‘historian’: More evidence than atheists ‘would ever imagine’ that Jonah was ‘swallowed by a whale’

there was ample evidence for the story of Jonah living in the belly of a fish for three days

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/fox-historian-more-evidence-than-atheists-would-ever-imagine-that-jonah-was-swallowed-by-a-whale/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Holy shit, the Bible humpers never fail to amuse

boutons_deux
02-08-2015, 04:30 PM
http://www.truthdig.com/images/made/images/cartoonuploads/E0556B41-240F-474E-ADAC-E88ADA72ECD0_500_379.jpg

boutons_deux
02-08-2015, 05:08 PM
West Virginia lawmaker apologizes for ‘beautiful’ rape comment

“For somebody to take advantage of somebody else in such a horrible and terrifying and brutal way is absolutely disgusting,” Kurcaba said. “But what is beautiful is the child that could come as a production of this.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/west-virginia-lawmaker-apologizes-for-beautiful-rape-comment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

The Rape Caucus mentality and pervasive misogyny is so unconsciously, deeply reflexive in y'all Repugs. :lol

boutons_deux
02-09-2015, 10:52 AM
godwin alert!

dubya and dickhead revisionism alert!

Federal Appeals Judge Compares People Who Say Bush Lied To Rise Of Nazis

A federal appeals judge wrote in a column published on Sunday that people who accuse former President George W. Bush of lying about the Iraq War are peddling myths like those that led to the rise of Hitler.

Laurence H. Silberman, a federal appellate judge appointed by President Ronald Reagan, wrote in the (http://www.wsj.com/articles/laurence-h-silberman-the-dangerous-lie-that-bush-lied-1423437950)Wall Street Journal (http://www.wsj.com/articles/laurence-h-silberman-the-dangerous-lie-that-bush-lied-1423437950) that the idea the Bush administration "lied us into Iraq" has gone from "antiwar slogan to journalistic fact."

"[I]t is one thing to assert, then or now, that the Iraq war was ill-advised," he wrote. "It is quite another to make the horrendous charge that President Bush lied to or deceived the American people about the threat from Saddam."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/laurence-silberman-bush-lied-nazis?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

boutons_deux
02-09-2015, 02:18 PM
Kockenstein Monster Scott Walker Deletes The Values Of Truth And Service From University Mission (http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/06/3619368/scott-walker-tries-fails-rewrite-universitys-mission-focus-workforce-needs/)

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker has come under fire this week not only for proposing a controversial and unprecedented $300 million cut (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/02/02/3616140/scott-walker-university-students/) to the University of Wisconsin, but because his new budget deleted the values of truth and service (http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/scott-walkers-uw-mission-rewrite-could-end-the-wisconsin-idea-b99439020z1-290797681.html) from the University’s 100-plus-year-old mission and replaced them with the idea that the purpose of public higher education is “to meet the state’s workforce needs.”

Governor Walker’s edits erased language from the school’s founding principles — known as the “Wisconsin Idea” — that declares: “Basic to every purpose of the system is the search for truth.” The Governor also struck out the University’s goal of “public service designed to educate people and improve the human condition” and “serve and stimulate society.”

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/06/3619368/scott-walker-tries-fails-rewrite-universitys-mission-focus-workforce-needs/

boutons_deux
02-09-2015, 02:22 PM
Kockenstein Monster Bobby Jindal’s New Plan Holds Up Struggling New Orleans Schools As Model For The Country (http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/09/3620799/nola-bobby-jindal-school-plan/)

Louisiana Governor and likely presidential candidate Bobby Jindal (R) released his new “roadmap (http://americanext.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/America-Next-K-12-Education-Reform.pdf)” for reforming K-12 education Monday morning, focusing on the importance of deregulating and privatizing public schools and holding up New Orleans’ nearly all-charter school district as a model for the nation.

“I’m proud we’ve increased the number of charter schools, nearly doubling them,” Jindal told an audience on Capitol Hill. “I get so frustrated when people tell us to wait for incremental gains. We have seen remarkable gains.”

But new data (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mercedes-schneider/new-orleans-rsd-far-from-_b_6642278.html) calls the supposed gains into question. The class of 2014 graduating from the 90%-charter New Orleans Recovery School District scored so low on the national ACT test that they didn’t meet the minimum requirements for Louisiana’s colleges. :lol LA college? THAT's already a low bar! :lol

According to numbers crunched by Louisiana public school teacher and doctor of statistics Mercedes Schneider, just over 6 percent of high school seniors in New Orleans scored high enough in English and Math to qualify for admission into a Louisiana four-year college or university straight out of high school.

Five of the district’s 16 high schools produced not a single student who met these requirements.
The district’s test scores were extremely low prior to Hurricane Katrina and the charter school conversion, but despite Jindal’s claims of “remarkable gains,” there has been only a 0.2 point (http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2015/02/new_orleans_school_divide_pers.html) improvement in New Orleans, and a 0.6 decline statewide.

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/09/3620799/nola-bobby-jindal-school-plan/

Repug Governance, what's not to love! :lol

boutons_deux
02-09-2015, 02:23 PM
Fox Host: Christians Have Killed 'Zero' People In The Name Of Religion

Fox News host Eric Bolling denied Saturday that Christians, or people of any faith other than Islam for that matter, have killed anyone in the name of their religion.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/eric-bolling-prayer-breakfast-christians-dont-kill?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

boutons_deux
02-09-2015, 06:27 PM
Steve King posts image of Obama in a turban, calls Obama speech a 'Jihadi recruiting tool' (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/09/1363392/-Steve-King-posts-image-of-Obama-in-a-turban-calls-Obama-speech-a-Jihadi-recruiting-tool)


http://images.dailykos.com/images/128507/large/kingobamatoon.jpg?1423516579


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/09/1363392/-Steve-King-posts-image-of-Obama-in-a-turban-calls-Obama-speech-a-Jihadi-recruiting-tool?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

boutons_deux
02-10-2015, 05:42 AM
Utah Puts Science Standards On Hold, Demands More Local Control Of Reality

the proposed science standards include too much darned science for some people’s tastes.

the Utah standards are coming under attack from conservatives who insist the multi-state model they’re based on, the Next Generation Science Standards, (http://www.nextgenscience.org/next-generation-science-standards) are tainted by liberal bias when it comes to climate science, which would be bad for those states’ coal industries.

in Utah, it’s not merely the climate stuff that’s “controversial,” but also the teaching of evolution, which was already in the state standards, but which some parents are telling the state school board’s Standards and Assessment Committee is pretty radical stuff.

Also, at least one angry parent wants to know why Utah even needs a bunch of science standards that were developed by a national committee, which clearly didn’t take Utah’s unique science needs into account

He said most of the participants on the 15-member review committee, which by statute includes appointees selected by the Utah Senate, Utah House and state school board, were culled from schools and universities.

“There were only a few people who carried the parent frame of mind,” he said. “All the others had been schooled in the framework of educational thought.”

(:lol In Repug/red state Utah, and probably in ALL Repug states, that's a negative! :lol )

Neither Ellis nor Newmeyer articulated what exactly makes science work differently in Utah than other places, but apparently, physics, chemistry, biology, geology, and other scientific topics need to subject to local input. And god forbid educators should be the primary designers of educational policy.

Newmeyer believes Utah’s proposed guidelines took positions on controversial subjects, with students expected to accept as fact concepts that remain under debate — at least politically.

“That is true with global warming, that is true with Darwinian evolution and a number of other things,” he said. “It’s not a science class in these areas. It’s an indoctrination class.”

http://wonkette.com/575571/utah-puts-science-standards-on-hold-demands-more-local-control-of-reality

Like all religionists who make up shit, they just make up SHIT about anything and call it reality.

boutons_deux
02-10-2015, 06:06 AM
For Alabama Chief Justice, Soldiering in Name of God Is Nothing New (http://rss.nytimes.com/c/34625/f/640350/s/43388554/sc/8/l/0L0Snytimes0N0C20A150C0A20C10A0Cus0Cfor0Ealabama0E chief0Ejustice0Eroy0Emoore0Esoldiering0Ein0Ename0E of0Egod0Eis0Enothing0Enew0Bhtml0Dpartner0Frss0Gemc 0Frss/story01.htm)

Chief Justice Moore, who was re-elected in 2012, has, and is once again the center of national attention after ordering Alabama’s probate judges not to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, despite a federal judge’s indication that she expects them to do so.

Chief Justice Moore, a confident, 67-year-old West Point graduate and Vietnam veteran, was unapologetic and firm in his position that the federal judiciary has seriously overreached in its effort to impose same-sex marriage (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/same_sex_marriage/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier)in Alabama — a state where 81 percent of voters passed a constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex marriage (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/same_sex_marriage/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) in 2006.

“If we accept this without contest, without standing up for what’s pure and simple constitutional law, then we, too, bow down to unlawful authority,” he said. “And that’s not the role of government leaders in the state.”

“Now we see the federal courts moving to take away institutions ordained of God, and recognized by the people for hundreds and even thousands of years before this country came into being,” he said. The definition of marriage, he said, should not be left to federal judges.

“Courts are just people,” he said. “They’re just men and women dressed in black robes who have no power to re-declare, or declare, the social foundation of this nation as being unconstitutional.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/10/us/for-alabama-chief-justice-roy-moore-soldiering-in-name-of-god-is-nothing-new.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Confederates still fighting the North, still justifying racism, discrimination with their version of the Bible, which they know trumps all government.

boutons_deux
02-10-2015, 08:20 PM
Kansas governor rescinds protections for gay state workers

Kansas Governor Sam Brownback, a conservative Republican re-elected in November, on Tuesday rescinded an executive order issued by a Democratic predecessor that offered protections for gay and bisexual state workers.

Brownback said he was rescinding a 2007 order signed by former Governor Kathleen Sebelius that established a "protected class of rights" for state employees specifically for sexual orientation and gender identity.

In its place, Brownback said he was issuing an executive order that would boost state employment-related aid for veterans and disabled people, while reaffirming the state's "commitment" to employment practices that do not discriminate based on "race, color, gender, religion, national origin, ancestry or age."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/11/us-usa-kansas-brownback-idUSKBN0LF02S20150211?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews


you fucking Repugs are truly REPUGNANT.

How many KS LGBT will now be fired because they are LGBT?

boutons_deux
02-11-2015, 12:48 PM
Montana Taliban: Republican lawmaker wants to arrest and jail women for wearing yoga pants


A Montana lawmaker wants to expand his state’s indecent exposure laws tooutlaw yoga pants (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/02/montana-legislator-wants-ban-yoga-pants) and other tight-fitting or revealing clothing.

State Rep. David Moore (R-Missoula) introduced a bill Tuesday (http://billingsgazette.com/news/government-and-politics/montana-lawmaker-seeks-to-outlaw-yoga-pants/article_71538ba2-d529-5ec3-a289-108de20e9398.html#utm_source=billingsgazette&utm_campaign=hot-topics-2&utm_medium=direct) after stewing for months over a group of naked bicyclists who rode through his town in August.

Moore’s bill, which was drafted with retired professor Walt Hill, is intended to preserve Montana’s reputation as a “decent state where people can live within the security of laws and protect their children and associates from degrading and indecent practices.”

The bill would outlaw any nipple exposure by men or women, along with any clothing that “gives the appearance or simulates” the buttocks, genitals, pelvic area, or female nipple.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/montana-taliban-republican-lawmaker-wants-to-arrest-and-jail-women-for-wearing-yoga-pants/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

way to go, all y'all Repug voters and dime-store shit kickers in your pristine show trucks.

boutons_deux
02-13-2015, 07:02 AM
GOP lawmaker hopes to end Colorado program that lowered teen birth and abortion rates (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/11/1363801/-GOP-lawmaker-hopes-to-end-Colorado-program-that-lowered-teen-birth-and-abortion-rates)

Remember that Colorado program that offered birth control (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/05/1362594/-Colorado-guv-says-state-s-free-birth-control-program-yielded-40-drop-in-teen-births) to low-income women and reduced the state's teen birth rate by 40 percent and abortions by 35 percent while saving the state millions of dollars? It's possible that all that will come to a stop—mostly because the program was the result of a grant that's ending and Republicans control the state senate.

the GOP holds a one-vote majority, abortion politics—and the Supreme Court's Hobby Lobbydecision—may scuttle the plan.At issue are some abortion foes' beliefs that IUDs can cause abortions—the same belief that led to the Oklahoma-based hobby chain's lawsuit against the Obama administration's requirement that employers provide insurance that covers contraception or pay a fine. Most scientists say IUDs primarily work by preventing fertilization. But some IUDs can occasionally prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a woman's uterus. Fertilized eggs often fail to implant, even without birth control, so most doctors define abortion as the termination of an already implanted pregnancy.

But many conservatives who believe human life begins at conception consider preventing implantation akin to abortion.

In the war on women, Republicans like Lundberg now aim to kill access to birth control too.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/11/1363801/-GOP-lawmaker-hopes-to-end-Colorado-program-that-lowered-teen-birth-and-abortion-rates?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

The Repug War on Women is fiercest on poor women (financially secure women, even Repug women, can still get abortions and birth control)

and of course, AS ALWAYS, Repug politics is based on LIES and denial of scientific fact, which their ignorant Bible thumping rural base love.

boutons_deux
02-13-2015, 06:29 PM
Nebraska Senator Stalls Gun Bill To Avoid Arming LGBT Military Spouses

On Tuesday, Nebraska Senator Dave Bloomfield (Hoskins) tabled a bill (http://www.starherald.com/news/regional_statewide/senator-puts-on-hold-concealed-carry-bill-that-raised-gay/article_4c6a74c2-b161-11e4-adb0-83c3fbdbbf24.html) that would have extended conceal and carry privileges to military spouses, because the law could apply to same-sex couples. Bloomfield’s decision effectively kills the bill for this legislative session. Legislative Bill 190 (http://www.dailynebraskan.com/news/proposed-gun-bill-could-advance-gay-rights-in-nebraska/article_d46a901c-b0c8-11e4-8ede-03ab7ef78c4f.html) would have granted non-resident military spouses the right to apply for conceal carry permits immediately, rather than requiring them to wait 180 days to establish residency. Current law permits non-resident military members to obtain a permit right away, but their spouses are not eligible for a conceal carry permit until they have acquired residency.

However, because the bill would defer to the military’s definition of marriage, some lawmakers became concerned that the measure would extend gun rights to same-sex military couples. The ensuing controversy over whether the bill would acknowledge the Defense Department’s definition of marriage, lead to Bloomfield putting the bill on hold.

like most Republicans who love liberty, Bloomfield draws the line at permitting same-sex couples to enjoy the freedoms other Nebraskans take for granted. As a conservative, Bloomfield no doubt thinks he loves individual rights, and by God, he probably believes he supports the troops as well. However, when push comes to shove, he places an even higher value on the freedom to discriminate against gays and lesbians than he does on the right to carry.

given the choice between standing up for gun rights and upholding discrimination against gays and lesbians, Nebraska has chosen to stand on the side of discrimination. Given an option between siding with military families or aligning with homophobic bigotry, the author of the bill has stalled his legislation, revealing that his allegiance leans towards discrimination.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/13/nebraska-senator-stalls-gun-bill-avoid-arming-lgbt-military-spouses.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Repugs, rednecks, bubbas, shit kickers, cowboys REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE LGBT, even more than they LOVE GUNS FOR EVERYONE EVERYWHERE. :lol

boutons_deux
02-15-2015, 10:12 AM
Boehner says he's prepared to let U.S. homeland security funding lapse

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/15/us-usa-congress-homeland-idUSKBN0LJ0P520150215?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews

boutons_deux
02-15-2015, 11:44 AM
Roy Moore: If Supreme Court changes God’s ‘organic law’ on marriage ‘I would not be bound thereby’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/roy-moore-if-supreme-court-changes-gods-organic-law-on-marriage-i-would-not-be-bound-thereby/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Sharia? Hell no

Christian Taliban theocracy? Hell yes

boutons_deux
02-17-2015, 02:22 PM
Oklahoma Lawmakers Vote Overwhelmingly To Ban Advanced Placement U.S. History (http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/)

Advanced Placement history class fails to teach “American exceptionalism.” :lol

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/

OK is EXCEPTIONALLY stupid, ignorant

boutons_deux
02-17-2015, 02:24 PM
North Carolina GOP Looks To Raise Taxes On Students And Defrauded Homeowners (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/02/16/3623378/north-carolina-mortgage-relief-tax/)

The proposal is among several changes attached to a broader tax measure that would lower the state’s gas tax by 2.5 cents. Another provision of the bill would end the state income tax deduction for tuition expenses — essentially a tax hike on college students.

Recent tax overhauls in the state cast an even dimmer light on the moves to extract more revenue from struggling homeowners and people working on college degrees. After conservatives swept state elections in 2010 with the financial backing of wealthy retail titan Art Pope, they eliminated a key tax credit for the working poor (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/14/3161521/north-carolinas-eitc-tax-hike-poor/).

The same law that raised taxes on low-income workers also lowered them for the wealthiest in the state by replacing the previous two-tiered income tax system with a flat 5.8 percent income tax rate for all earners.

The result (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/07/16/2308621/north-carolina-lawmakers-ram-through-plan-to-tax-poor-people-more-after-just-25-minutes-of-debate/) of the tax code tinkering was a $10,000 tax cut for people who earn over a million dollars a year, paid for with a tax hike on the bottom 80 percent of North Carolina’s income distribution.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/02/16/3623378/north-carolina-mortgage-relief-tax/

Aztecfan03
02-17-2015, 02:29 PM
Oklahoma Lawmakers Vote Overwhelmingly To Ban Advanced Placement U.S. History (http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/)

Advanced Placement history class fails to teach “American exceptionalism.” :lol

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/

OK is EXCEPTIONALLY stupid, ignorant




Got to agree with you here that this is really stupid. AP is a good thing and completely different from common core. Things might lean liberal because most schooling does but it doesn't only teach the bad things about America.

I would have hated high school if i had gotten stuck in regular history, science, and math courses.

boutons_deux
02-18-2015, 06:31 AM
Believers Of Ernst Hoax Say A Lot About Who We Are

Iowa Republican senator Joni Ernst telling a Des Moines radio host that Congress should outlaw vaccines because they “manipulate brains.”

According to the story, the host asked Ernst to clarify, whereupon the conservative freshman explained that when they were children, she had a friend who was vaccinated, while she herself never was because her family couldn’t afford it.

The story quotes Ernst as saying, “Now, we grew up in the same town, went to the same schools, attended the same church, we even served in the military together. We’re practically the same, right? But he’s a liberal Democrat. He voted for Obama both times and he has a Hillary Clinton sticker on his pickup truck. He supports welfare and the gays. I’m not saying the vaccinations made him more liberal, but the vaccinations made him more liberal, do you get what I’m saying?”

“This simply HAS to be a joke.”

And it was. It turned out the story originated on National Report,

one of its headlines reads: “Car Owners Baffled as More Tampons Are Found in Mazda 6 Engines.”

A number of observers, including a handful of reporters, fell for the hoax, tweeting it to their followers as fact. As near as I can tell, the senator didn’t even bother issuing a rebuttal.

Then you consider the kinds of things people do routinely say and believe in this country and it becomes hard to be sanguine.

Didn’t a talk show host say the federal government is gearing up for a war against white people?

Didn’t a senatorial candidate say a woman’s body can protect itself from pregnancy in cases of rape?

Didn’t bloggers say Chief Justice John Roberts has ordered President Obama’s arrest for treason?

Didn’t a PAC accuse the president of a plan to help gay parents buy babies?

It’s a litany of the ridiculous that provides a certain context for the thing Senator Ernst did not say — and explains why some of us were so ready to believe that she did.

manypoliticians, particularly on the right, have abandoned the vast middle ground of American political thought, preferring to seek votes with simple and simple-minded appeals to the prejudices and fears of those on the fringes instead.

In such a world, the idea that Joni Ernst thinks vaccines give you liberalism becomes, at a minimum, plausible. Which is a sad reflection on us.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/believers-ernst-hoax-say-lot/

Hey,

bubbas,

rednecks,

shit kickers,

pickup truck drivers,

gun fellators,

tea baggers,

Repugs,

Bible humpers,

"patriots",

Oath Keepers,

old, fat white white men with guns and untrimmed beards,

marans,

CHECK YOUR ENGINES FOR TAMPAXES! :lol

boutons_deux
02-18-2015, 09:38 AM
State Supreme Court Justice Warns He May Abolish Marriage Entirely If Same-Sex Weddings Are Allowed (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/02/18/3623884/state-supreme-court-justice-warns-may-abolish-marriage-entirely-sex-weddings-allowed/)

An obscure, two-page opinion by an Alabama Supreme Court justice contains an ominous warning. If marriage equality remains the law in Alabama, Justice Glenn Murdock may vote to abolish marriage in his state altogether (http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/02/does_gay_marriage_ruling_threa.html).

according to Murdock, if gay couples and straight couples must enjoy the exact same marriage rights under the Constitution, the proper remedy might be to deny those rights to everyone, rather than extending them to same-sex and opposite-sex couples alike.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/02/18/3623884/state-supreme-court-justice-warns-may-abolish-marriage-entirely-sex-weddings-allowed/

Alabama! :lol

Confederacy! :lol

Southern Racist Baptists! :lol

Elected judges! :lol

boutons_deux
02-18-2015, 09:43 PM
Oklahoma lawmakers advance bill punishing employees who issue same-sex marriage licenses


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/oklahoma-lawmakers-advence-bill-punishing-employees-who-issue-same-sex-marriage-licenses/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
02-19-2015, 10:46 AM
Doctor Refuses to Treat Same-Sex Couple's 6-Day-Old Baby

A married lesbian couple, Krista and Jami Contreras, wanted to take their baby Bay to a checkup at Eastlake Pediatrics in Roseville, Michigan. When they arrived at the medical facility, they were told that the doctor they had planned to see didn't even come to the office that day – she “had prayed on it, and she won't be able to care for” their baby.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/doctor-refuses-treat-same-sex-couples-6-day-old-baby

Fucking Bible-humping, hate-filled Christians, fucking up the country with their Repug and VRWC accomplices.

boutons_deux
02-19-2015, 01:00 PM
http://www.truthdig.com/images/made/images/cartoonuploads/lk021815dAPC_590_428.jpg

boutons_deux
02-19-2015, 03:03 PM
Latest Proof Obama’s A Muslim: He Openly Possesses An Index Finger

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/obama-finger.jpg



http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/finger-montage.png


some genius at “American Thinker” — where the stuff that’s too crazy for WorldNetDaily ends up — has finally found the conclusive evidence of Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro Guevara Lumumba Hitler’s definite membership in the Islamic Death Cult: He was photographed throwing Muslim Gang Signs! (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/obama_and_the_muslim_gang_sign.html) There it is, right in the picture up there!

F.W. Burleigh typed these words, allegedly in English:


Is President Obama a Muslim? A lot has been written about this, but if photographs speak louder than words, then a photo taken at last August’s U.S.-African Leaders’ Summit in Washington D.C. might shed considerable light.

It shows Barack Hussein Obama flashing the one-finger affirmation of Islamic faith to dozens of African delegates.


Read more at http://wonkette.com/576798/latest-proof-obamas-a-muslim-he-openly-possesses-an-index-finger#SqsPM5IiylrEEqQY.99

boutons_deux
02-20-2015, 09:30 PM
gun fellators, shed a tear

New UT Chief, Counterterrorism Expert, Says No To ‘Campus Carry’

The new chancellor of the University of Texas System told Gov. Greg Abbott and other top Republicans on Thursday that concealed handguns at colleges will make campus less safe.

William McRaven, the former Navy admiral who directed the Special Forces operation to kill Osama bin Laden, took over the lead of the University of Texas System this month. As his predecessor, Francisco Cigarroa, did in previous years, McRaven wrote a letter to state leaders outlining campus opposition to allowing concealed weapons in campus building and classrooms.

The “campus carry” measure backed by gun rights groups has been among the hottest issues in previous legislative sessions, and opposition from higher education officials has been a key reason for its defeat.

But the issue also has new momentum, particularly in the Senate, where a bill filed this week already had 19 co-sponsors, the precise number needed to ensure its passage in that chamber. “I am very pleased that the Senate is poised to cast this historic vote,” Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said this week.

http://tpr.org/post/new-ut-chief-counterterrorism-expert-says-no-campus-carry?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=kstxfmeducation

boutons_deux
02-23-2015, 08:39 PM
red state/Repug mastery of sex education

Idaho Republican asks if a woman can swallow a camera for gynecological exam

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Representative_Vito_Barbieri-_2014-05-03_18-49-800x430.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/audio-idaho-republican-asks-if-a-woman-can-swallow-a-camera-for-gynecological-exam/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
02-23-2015, 08:40 PM
Fucking Krazy Kruz rousing his (Texas) rabble

Reckless Crackpot Ted Cruz Falsely Compares Barack Obama to Corrupt Richard Nixon

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/23/reckless-crackpot-ted-cruz-falsely-compares-barack-obama-corrupt-richard-nixon.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux
02-25-2015, 12:07 PM
Are you worried about the UN taking over the Alamo? So is this Texas state senator.

Is the United Nations trying to steal The Alamo from Texas? Texas State Senator Donna Campbell (R) is concerned enough about the possibility that she's proposed legislation to ban foreign ownership of the site. She was prompted by a UN cultural agency that is considering designating The Alamo a world heritage site, which she is strangely confusing with an attempted UN takeover.

Here's what happened. In 2014 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/17/us-usa-unesco-alamo-idUSBREA0G1PZ20140117), the US Department of the Interior nominated the San Antonio Missions (five former Spanish missions, including The Alamo) to collectively be designated a World Heritage Site by the UN Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO).

The designation brings international recognition and, if necessary, UN support for a site's maintenance (http://whc.unesco.org/en/funding/); there are currently over 1,000 world heritage sites, including 22 in the US. None have been taken over by UN forces. According to the Texas Tribune (http://www.texastribune.org/2015/02/24/campbell-faces-skepticism-face-alamo-bill/), UNESCO will make a decision on the nomination by July.

Sen. Campbell has expressed concern that The Alamo, the site of an iconic defeat of Texas independence fighters and a symbol of state pride, could eventually be sold to the UN. "It was there that Texas first stood her ground to be free, and the UN doesn't have any business there," she said (http://www.texastribune.org/2015/01/30/donna-campbell-looks-ban-foreign-ownership-alamo/).

Her proposed bill (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84R/billtext/pdf/SB00191I.pdf#navpanes=0) is meant to prevent by banning the Texas land office from vesting "any ownership, control, or management" over The Alamo to "an entity formed under the laws of another country."

http://www.vox.com/2015/2/25/8104087/texas-alamo-un

:lol

Thanks, Texian Repugs! :lol

Aztecfan03
02-25-2015, 12:35 PM
Latest Proof Obama’s A Muslim: He Openly Possesses An Index Finger

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/obama-finger.jpg



http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/finger-montage.png


some genius at “American Thinker” — where the stuff that’s too crazy for WorldNetDaily ends up — has finally found the conclusive evidence of Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro Guevara Lumumba Hitler’s definite membership in the Islamic Death Cult: He was photographed throwing Muslim Gang Signs! (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/obama_and_the_muslim_gang_sign.html) There it is, right in the picture up there!

F.W. Burleigh typed these words, allegedly in English:


Is President Obama a Muslim? A lot has been written about this, but if photographs speak louder than words, then a photo taken at last August’s U.S.-African Leaders’ Summit in Washington D.C. might shed considerable light.

It shows Barack Hussein Obama flashing the one-finger affirmation of Islamic faith to dozens of African delegates.


Read more at http://wonkette.com/576798/latest-proof-obamas-a-muslim-he-openly-possesses-an-index-finger#SqsPM5IiylrEEqQY.99

gullibility of boutons.

boutons_deux
02-26-2015, 10:22 PM
John McCain Calls For US War In Ukraine, Libya, Syria, And Iraq (http://news.firedoglake.com/2015/02/26/john-mccain-calls-for-us-war-in-ukraine-libya-syria-and-iraq/)

Yesterday Senator John McCain spoke at the New America Foundation’s Future of War Conference (http://www.newamerica.org/international-security/future-of-war/) on his vision for American foreign policy – war.

McCain said the US should send (more) ground forces into Iraq and expand the combat mission into Syria to destroy ISIS. McCain lamented that Libya had fallen into chaos and said the fault was with the US “walking away.” He also asserted that Ukraine should be given weapons to fight Russian-backed separatists in the east and dismissed concerns that the US arming Ukraine would escalate the conflict.

To pay for these wars McCain suggested cutting entitlements and social spending

http://news.firedoglake.com/2015/02/26/john-mccain-calls-for-us-war-in-ukraine-libya-syria-and-iraq/

boutons_deux
02-26-2015, 10:24 PM
GOPer Says House Looked Into Arresting Eric Holder; Fears Muslim Brotherhood's White House Access

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/goper-says-house-looked-arresting-eric-holder-fears-muslim-brotherhoods-white-house-access

boutons_deux
02-27-2015, 06:27 AM
Ann Coulter: Undocumented Immigrants More Dangerous Than ISIS (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ann-coulter-undocumented-immigrants-more-dangerous-isis)


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ann-coulter-undocumented-immigrants-more-dangerous-isis

boutons_deux
02-28-2015, 11:08 AM
Fox News doctor: ‘Crack babies’ come from women ‘smoking this whole marijuana business’http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/fox-news-doctor-crack-babies-come-from-women-smoking-this-whole-marijuana-business/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
02-28-2015, 03:21 PM
N. Carolina officials: Sex between lobbyists and lawmakers has ‘no monetary value’“Consensual sexual relationships do not have monetary value and therefore are not reportable as gifts or reportable expenditure made for lobbying,”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/n-carolina-officials-sex-between-lobbyists-and-lawmakers-has-no-monetary-value/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
03-01-2015, 09:03 AM
Georgia Republicans latest to propose airing of right-wing propaganda as 'history' in public schools (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/26/1367012/-Georgia-Republicans-latest-to-propose-airing-of-right-wing-propaganda-as-history-in-public-schools)

Georgia lawmakers last week introduced a resolution calling on schools to screen conservative author and filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza's latest movie, "America: Imagine A World Without Her."According to the resolution sponsored by six state House Republicans, D'Souza made the movie to "combat the idea that America is a 'disgrace' to the world."

Yup, Georgia wants to "encourage" middle schools and high schools in Georgia to show the latest right-wing propaganda project of an admitted felon in history classes. Which is totally cool, though, because, you see, this six-pack of Georgia right-wingers only wants to show this propaganda because they are convinced ... convinced! ... that history classes are already a cesspool of left-wing propaganda.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/26/1367012/-Georgia-Republicans-latest-to-propose-airing-of-right-wing-propaganda-as-history-in-public-schools?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29#

a convicted, confined, federal felon as a Repug source of American history! :lol

Confederate Georgia! :lol

red states! :lol

Repugs! :lol

boutons_deux
03-01-2015, 03:35 PM
Ben Carson: Religion is needed to interpret science because ‘maybe it’s just propaganda’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/ben-carson-religion-is-needed-to-interpret-science-because-maybe-its-just-propaganda/

Wisdom from a man highly educated in science, biology, etc.

boutons_deux
03-02-2015, 01:58 PM
Black lawmakers should be ‘hanging from a noose’ for boycotting Netanyahu’s speech

the only reason those members of the Congressional Black Caucus had been elected in the first place was because the voters in their “districts are all dumb clucks.”she wasn’t sure if she was more angry at the “heinous people who occupy the halls of Congress or the dumb clucks that put them there.”

“Stupid, stupid people! Our lives are on the line and all they can think of is skin color!” she insisted. “You know, all of us are going to turn black if we end up in a cage on fire!”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/radio-host-black-lawmakers-should-be-hanging-from-a-noose-for-boycotting-netanyahus-speech/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
03-03-2015, 10:23 AM
Sharia law: North Carolina Republicans empower magistrates to refuse to marry blacks, Jews, gays (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/02/1367217/-Sharia-law-North-Carolina-Republicans-empower-magistrates-to-refuse-to-marry-blacks-Jews-gays)

North Carolina Republicans' latest wedge issue gambit, Senate Bill 2 (http://www.ncleg.net/Applications/BillLookUp/LoadBillDocument.aspx?SessionCode=2015&DocNum=459&SeqNum=0) (An Act to Allow Magistrates [...] to Recuse Themselves From Performing Duties Related to Marriage Ceremonies Due to Sincerely Held Religious Objection), passed the state Senate Wednesday on a near party-line vote

SB2 would permit a magistrate with a "sincerely held religious objection" to recuse him- or herself from performing weddings by the simple act of so notifying the chief district court judge.

No examination of the sincerity of that belief (such as would-be conscientious objectors face under Selective Service rules) would be required.

Neither would the recusing magistrate be required to state exactly what it is he objects to:

same-sex marriage (which many fundamentalist Christian denominations hold to be a sin),

mixed-race marriage (regarding which the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-Day_Saints) prophet, Warren Jeffs, proclaimed (http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2005/spring/tempest-in-texas/the-prophet-speaks)"If you marry a person who has connections with a Negro, you would become cursed"),

the re-marriage of a divorcee (which the Catholic Church holds to be a sin),

the marriage of a Christian and a Jew (sometimes frowned upon by both religions),

marriage between cousins (legal in North Carolina but proscribed by the Catholic church), or what have you.

According to former Gaston County magistrate William Stevenson (http://www.bpnews.net/43712/gay-marriage-faith-spur-judges-to-resign):

There comes a point where one has to choose between following the commands of the Lord and following the commands of the government.


Likewise, former Swain County magistrate, Gilbert Breedlove (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article9206057.html):

There are many who won’t let their personal beliefs interfere with their jobs. In this case, I had no option.

Or Tommy Holland (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article9206057.html), former Graham County magistrate:

When you’re a magistrate, you take the oath to uphold the law of North Carolina. It’s up to you to honor it. I just couldn’t.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/02/1367217/-Sharia-law-North-Carolina-Republicans-empower-magistrates-to-refuse-to-marry-blacks-Jews-gays?detail=email



Confederate Bible humping racists installing Taleban Christian Sharia

"doesn't target a specific class"? it targets the anybody who violates Bible humpers' morals, including taxpayers who pay these public officials.

boutons_deux
03-03-2015, 11:53 AM
Texas lawmaker on his fifth marriage filed complaint against judge over same-sex marriage (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/02/1367951/-Texas-lawmaker-on-his-fifth-marriage-filed-complaint-against-judge-over-same-sex-marriage)


http://images.dailykos.com/images/132005/large/tony2_copy.jpg?1425309669


Texas Rep. Tony Tinderholt, who is currently on his fifth marriage, is doing everything in his power to the protect the sanctity of marriage.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/02/1367951/-Texas-lawmaker-on-his-fifth-marriage-filed-complaint-against-judge-over-same-sex-marriage?detail=email

boutons_deux
03-04-2015, 10:52 AM
Boehner's ads attacking conservatives look like the spots Republicans ran against Dems—in 2002! (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/03/1368091/-Boehner-s-ads-attacking-conservatives-look-like-the-spots-Republicans-ran-against-Dems-in-2002)

The GOP civil war, which burst wide open with last week's Homeland Security funding debacle (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/02/1367625/-Pelosi-Boehner-promised-to-bring-clean-Homeland-Security-funding-bill-up-for-a-vote-this-week?detail=hide), has now reached a fever pitch. The American Action Network, a super PAC tied to none other than House Speaker John Boehner, is airing $400,000 worth of television ads (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/american-action-network-targets-house-conservatives-dhs-funding-115668.html), radio spots, and robocalls targeting "dozens" of Boehner's fellow Republicans for their refusal to go along with rest of their party when it comes to paying for the department's operations.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/03/1368091/-Boehner-s-ads-attacking-conservatives-look-like-the-spots-Republicans-ran-against-Dems-in-2002?detail=email#

$400K? :lol Kock Bros and friends spend $100Ms to put and keep these tea baggers in the House and Senate

boutons_deux
03-04-2015, 10:59 AM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/130958/large/2-22-strip-KOS.png?1424788748

boutons_deux
03-05-2015, 11:11 AM
This congressman doesn’t want a federal science board to be allowed to consider science

Last year, the House of Representatives passed two absurd anti-science bills, theSecret Science Reform Act (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/science/2014/11/secret_science_reform_act_house_republicans_agains t_the_epa.html) and the EPA Science Advisory Board Reform Act (http://news.sciencemag.org/environment/2014/11/environmentalists-scientists-fret-over-republican-bills-targeting-epa-science). It will come as no surprise that both bills, under the guise of “reform,” would have the practical effect of crippling the EPA’s efforts to assess science in a fair and timely way. I don’t have the heart to get into it — follow the links above for the details.

The bills are back; the House considered them both again yesterday. Emily Atkin has the gory details (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/03/03/3628631/secret-science-bills-are-back/) if you’re interested. They might get a little further this time — the Democratic Senate didn’t take them up last year, obviously, but the GOP-controlled Senate might this year — though it won’t matter in the end, as Obama has threatened to veto both (https://twitter.com/jwalkenrdc/status/572863758587981826). So it’s mainly yet another act of reactionary symbolism from the right.

All that is by way of background so I can draw your attention to a hilarious amendment attached to the Science Advisory Board bill. It comes by way of the bill’s sponsor, Rep. David McKinley (R-W.Va.), a far-right, coal-country, climate-denying (http://polluterwatch.com/category/freetagging/david-mckinley) conservative of the old school.

Here’s the amendment (http://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/MCKINL1029333151216141614.pdf). Its sole purpose is to prohibit the EPA’s Science Advisory Board from taking into consideration, for any purpose, the following reports:



the U.S. Global Change Research Program’s National Climate Assessment (http://nca2014.globalchange.gov/)
the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report (http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/)
the May 2013 Technical Update of the Social Cost of Carbon for Regulatory Impact Analysis Under Executive Order No. 12866 (https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/11/26/2013-28242/technical-support-document-technical-update-of-the-social-cost-of-carbon-for-regulatory-impact) (which I wrote about here (http://grist.org/climate-energy/the-obama-climate-move-that-nobody-noticed/))
the July 2014 Pathways to Deep Decarbonization Report (http://unsdsn.org/what-we-do/deep-decarbonization-pathways/), from the Sustainable Development Solutions Network and Institute for Sustainable Development and International Relations (which I wrote about here (http://grist.org/climate-energy/yes-we-can-beat-climate-change-but-it-will-take-massive-international-government-coordination/))


So. When considering what to do about carbon pollution, EPA may not consider what America’s best scientists have concluded about it, what an international panel of scientists has concluded about it, how the federal government has officially recommended calculating its value, or the most comprehensive solutions for it. Oh, and it can’t consider Agenda 21 (https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/index.php?page=view&nr=23&type=400) either. Otherwise the EPA can go nuts.

As I’ve said many (http://grist.org/climate-energy/on-climate-how-far-gone-is-the-far-right-spoiler-far/), many (http://grist.org/climate-energy/no-you-actually-havent-found-a-way-to-reach-conservatives-on-climate-change/) times (http://grist.org/politics/asymmetrical-polarization-the-lefts-gone-left-but-the-rights-gone-nuts/), most Americans have no idea how batshit crazy the House GOP has gone.

They serve the base, and only the base (and Politico obsessives) pay close attention.

But imagine, if you will, a GOP House and Senate paired with President Jeb Bush (http://grist.org/politics/jeb-bush-is-no-moderate-and-he-wont-fight-climate-change/). A bill like this might pass. Politicians might be picking and choosing, based on ideological criteria, which scientific reports administrative agencies are allowed to consider. It’s amusing in its own dark way, but it’s not a sitcom or a satire. It’s real life.

http://grist.org/politics/this-congressman-doesnt-want-a-federal-science-board-to-be-allowed-to-consider-science/?utm_campaign=daily_feed&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter

Repugs fucking up the country, fucking up govt, just as they are paid VERY WELL to do.

Thanks, Repug voters.

boutons_deux
03-06-2015, 10:21 AM
This Week In Crazy

5. Ben Carson

“A lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight, and when they come out, they’re gay. So, did something happen while they were in there?” Carson mused. “Ask yourself that question.”

4. Gordon Klingenschmitt

Klingenschmitt agrees: The murders were a hate crime.

Against Christians.

“An American atheist has killed three Muslims in North Carolina, because they were like Christians!” he declared. Naturally, he went on to explain that this was the Southern Poverty Law Center’s fault.

3. Louie Gohmert

The latest example is Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX), who called in to the “Point of View” radio show on Tuesday to explain (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gohmert-we-have-put-place-leaders-who-may-bring-down-judgment-united-states) how President Obama is inviting God’s wrath on the United States.

“I don’t know if you saw this story,” Gohmert lamented, “but it was reported from Nigeria that this administration said unless you change your law to allow same-sex marriage, then we’re not going to help you against the radical Islamists Boko Haram, which is killing Christians, having young girls raped and sold into sex slavery.”

Of course, if Steve Stockman and WorldNetDaily said it (http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/congressman-obama-denying-help-to-nigeria-to-fight-terror/), it has to be true.

According to Gohmert, this totally-not-made-up (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/10/14/fact-sheet-us-efforts-assist-nigerian-government-its-fight-against-boko-) “fact” is yet another sign of the looming Apocalypse.

2. David McKinley

Rep. David McKinley (R-WV) added an amendment (http://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/MCKINL1029333151216141614.pdf) that really kicks things up a notch. It would ban the EPA from ever considering the following reports when making decisions related to the SAB:


The United States Global Climate Research Program National Climate Assessment
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Fifth Assessment Report
The United Nations’ Agenda 21 Sustainable Development Plan
The May 2013 Technical Update of the Social Cost of Carbon for Regulatory Impact Analysis Under Executive Order No. 12866
The July 2014 Sustainable Development Solutions Network and Institute for Sustainable Development and International Relations’ Pathways to Deep Decarbonization Report


In other words, as Grist’s David Roberts explains (http://grist.org/politics/this-congressman-doesnt-want-a-federal-science-board-to-be-allowed-to-consider-science/):

When considering what to do about carbon pollution, EPA may not consider what America’s best scientists have concluded about it, what an international panel of scientists has concluded about it, how the federal government has officially recommended calculating its value, or the most comprehensive solutions for it. Oh, and it can’t consider Agenda 21 either. Otherwise the EPA can go nuts.


1. Kris Kobach

While discussing the University of Minnesota’s move to limit (http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_27595560/umn-stop-using-racial-descriptions-campus-crime-alerts) the use of racial descriptions in campus crime alerts, Kobach took a call from someone who warned that “given the recent story that Obama was instructing immigration enforcement to not enforce the immigration laws against illegal aliens, I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch, Kris, to envision an announcement that any black person accused of a crime, charged with a crime, is not going to be prosecuted, regardless of the crime.”

Despite the glaring evidence to the contrary (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/18/chart-of-the-week-the-black-white-gap-in-incarceration-rates/), Kobach agreed.

“Well, it’s already happened more or less in the case of civil rights laws,” he replied. “So I guess it’s not a huge jump, I think it’s unlikely, but you know I’ve learned to say with this president, never say never.”


http://www.nationalmemo.com/this-week-in-crazy-obama-bans-jail-for-black-people/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=MM_frequency_six&utm_campaign=Morning%20Memo%20-%202015-03-06

Repugs, Christians, tea baggers! What's Not To Ridicule! :lol

boutons_deux
03-07-2015, 07:43 AM
RED states! :lol

More American White Women Are Dying Prematurely

http://www.motherjones.com/files/women2.gif

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/more-american-white-women-dying-prematurely

Slutter McGee
03-07-2015, 09:01 AM
RED states! :lol

More American White Women Are Dying Prematurely

http://www.motherjones.com/files/women2.gif

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/more-american-white-women-dying-prematurely

There goes boutons, laughing at the death of thousands of women like a good little liberal.

boutons_deux
03-08-2015, 08:01 PM
Florida officials banned from saying ‘climate change’ because Gov. Rick Scott doesn’t think it’s real

ADministrators working for the Florida Department of Environmental Protection have been banned from using the terms “climate change” or “global warming” in any state documents, as well in meetings, on orders handed down from high-ranking officials in Gov. Rick Scott’s administration, reports the Miami Herald.

Staffers in the DEP say they are not allowed to use any terms not deemed, “a true fact” by higher ups in the state government.

“We were told not to use the terms ‘climate change,’ ‘global warming’ or ‘sustainability,’” explained Christopher Byrd, a former attorney with the DEP’s Office of General Counsel until 2013. “That message was communicated to me and my colleagues by our superiors in the Office of General Counsel.”

According to the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting, DEP officials were ordered not to use the terms in any official communications, emails, or reports, with one former staffer saying she was cautioned by a supervisor to refrain from using the terms in staff meetings.

“We were told that we were not allowed to discuss anything that was not a true fact,” former DEP employee Kristina Trotta explained.

www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/florida-officials-banned-from-saying-climate-change-because-gov-rick-scott-doesnt-think-its-real/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

"true fact" in the same Repug newspeak as "legitimate rape" :lol

boutons_deux
03-08-2015, 08:03 PM
Issa running dickhead to dickhead with Goober Gohmert for dumbest Repug asshole.

Darrell Issa Humiliates Himself On CNN While Calling For Criminal Charges Against Hillary Clinton

During an interview on CNN, Rep. Darrell Issa embarrassed himself by first admitting that Hillary Clinton didn’t break a law for which there was a penalty, but he called for criminal charges against Clinton anyway.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/03/08/darrell-issa-humiliates-cnn-calling-criminal-charges-hillary-clinton.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux
03-08-2015, 10:14 PM
Months old, but worth repeating

Alabama Chief Justice: The First Amendment Protects Only Christians

In comments earlier this year only now coming to light, the chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court asserted that the First Amendment only applies to Christianity since neither Buddha nor Mohammed created man.

"Everybody, to include the United States Supreme Court, has been deceived as to one little word in the First Amendment called religion. They can’t define it," chief justice Roy Moore said in January, according to video published Friday by Raw Story.

“Buddha didn’t create us, Mohammed didn’t create us, it was the God of the Holy Scriptures. They didn’t bring the Koran over on the pilgrim ship,” he continued. “Let’s get real, let’s go back and learn our history. Let’s stop playing games.”

The chief justice was speaking at a Pastor for Life Luncheon, an event in Jackson Miss., sponsored by Pro-Life Mississippi, according to Raw Story.

Moore lamented that it's not "politically correct" to discuss God and the law because Americans have been "divorced from God for so many years."

He then argued that the reference to "life" in the Declaration of Independence established a pro-life stance for the country.

"If technology’s supposed to increase our knowledge, how did we become so stupid?" he asked. :lol

"When they put ‘life’ in there, it was in the womb — we know it begins at conception. Why aren’t we going the right way instead of the wrong way?"

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/alabama-chief-justice-christianity?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Alabama! :lol

Christians! :lol

Repugs! :lol

Roy Moore ELECTED TWICE! :lol

and this being ALA fucking BAMA!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/fliers-800x430.jpg

A leader of the Loyal White Knights of the KKK admitted that members of his organization distributed over 4,000 recruitment fliers in the city of Selma, Alabama, in the weeks leading up to the 50th anniversary of “Bloody Sunday”, reports AL.com.

www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/kkk-members-used-50th-anniversary-of-bloody-sunday-to-distribute-recruitment-fliers-in-selma/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/kkk-members-used-50th-anniversary-of-bloody-sunday-to-distribute-recruitment-fliers-in-selma/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

boutons_deux
03-09-2015, 08:57 AM
There goes boutons, laughing at the death of thousands of women like a good little liberal.

not laughing at white wimmens killed by Repug death panels, but laughing at Repug death panels and the stupid, ignorant Repugs who keep electing death panel Repugs, salary-cutting Repugs, fucking-up Repugs, etc, etc.

boutons_deux
03-10-2015, 12:51 PM
If Florida censors climate change talk, it's not alone

But long before Florida unofficially banned these climate-related terms, other states passed laws attempting to limit the influence of climate change on land policies and education.

In 2012, North Carolina passed legislation banning the state from basing coastal policies on the latest predictions of sea level rise, ABC News reported (http://abcnews.go.com/US/north-carolina-bans-latest-science-rising-sea-level/story?id=16913782). Democratic Gov. Bev Perdue allowed the bill, known as House Bill 819, to become law by not taking action against it.

The law was a response to a prediction by the state's Coastal Resources Commission that sea levels could rise by 39 inches (99 centimeters) in the next century. The prediction raised fears that home insurance rates would increase and coastal development would slow.

Proponents of the law said the prediction is based on incomplete information, but critics accused the state of denying climate science.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey, sea levels in North Carolina and other "hotspots" along the East Coast between North Carolina and Massachusetts are rising at three to four times the rate worldwide (http://www.livescience.com/24647-east-coast-sea-level-rise-accelerating.html).

Meanwhile, other states had been passing laws of their own to curb the influence of climate change in education. In 2012, Tennessee passed a law to allow teachers to present alternative theories to climate change and evolution (http://www.livescience.com/19659-teaching-evolution-tennessee-bill.html), making it the second state, after Louisiana, to pass such a law.

The law was supposedly designed to protect teachers who "help students understand, analyze, critique and review in an objective manner the scientific strengths and scientific weaknesses of existing scientific theories covered in the course being taught," Reuters reported (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/13/us-usa-education-tennessee-idUSBRE83C0JR20120413). :lol

But some scientists saw the law as a threat to education. "We need to keep kids' curiosity about science alive and not limit their ability to understand the world around them by exposing them to misinformation," Brenda Ekwurzel, of the Union of Concerned Scientists, told Reuters.

At least five other states have considered similar legislation.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2015/0310/If-Florida-censors-climate-change-talk-it-s-not-alone

boutons_deux
03-10-2015, 04:32 PM
Ben Carson: The People Will Stop Obama's Third Term!

WorldNetDaily has (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/joseph-farah-and-alex-jones-wonder-if-obama-will-try-stay-or-just-hand-pick-successor) become (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/joseph-farah-just-asking-will-obama-actually-leave-office-january-2017) infatuated (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/birther-joseph-farah-wants-pfaw-help-block-third-obama-term-let-s-make-deal) with a bizarre conspiracy theory that President Obama will remain in office after his second term expires, and today the far-right outlet, best known for promoting birther claims, decided to ask (http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/ben-carson-to-wnd-constitution-will-break-obama/) likely GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson the question on everyone’s minds: “Who would stop Obama from remaining in office past his second term?”

Rather than just dismiss the absurd statement outright, Carson said that the people will rise up to defend the Constitution’s limitation on a president serving more than two terms in office against Obama.

President Obama leaves office on Jan. 20, 2017 – or does he? The Internet’s abuzz with talk about the myriad of ways Obama might seek to extend his White House role – sparked in part by radio conjecture from conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh – and now at least one likely presidential candidate, Ben Carson, has weighed in to say: Don’t worry, Obama will leave.

First, the question from WND to Carson: “Who would stop Obama from remaining in office past his second term?”

And Carson’s reply, via email: “We the people would oppose it through our Constitution, the 22nd Amendment of which forbids more than two terms. Even some of the timid people in the other two branches of government would be willing to stand behind the fortified walls of our Constitution.”

Sounds reasonable – but the buzz persists.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ben-carson-people-will-stop-obamas-third-term

"would oppose", how about "have blocked, for many decades" :lol

I'm guessing his brain surgery victims do better than his English and history.