2016 presidential odds

[InRareForm]

Hillary 2.5 to 1

Rubio 6 to 1

Jeb Bush 9 to 1

[George Gervin's Afro]

I am going to enjoy the meltdown on this board when Clinton wins in 2016

[scott]

I am going to enjoy the meltdown on this board when Clinton wins in 2016

I'll probably join. That would ensure the entire period from 1981 to 2020 there was a Bush or Clinton as President, VP or Secretary of State for all but 4 years.

Time to move on, America.

[SA210]

We all lose: 1 to 1

[2centsworth]

I'll probably join. That would ensure the entire period from 1981 to 2020 there was a Bush or Clinton as President, VP or Secretary of State for all but 4 years.

Time to move on, America.

Latino Bush will probably win after hillary in 2016 and then Chelsea will win in 2024 or 2028.

[ElNono]

Fattie not gonna run?

[jack sommerset]

I believe whoever wins the democratic side of things will win. The republican party has been damage. It has shown little signs that it will change. God bless

[baseline bum]

Fattie not gonna run?

You askin if a nigga taking a helicopter to a little league game is running? C'mon son. Doubt that nigga can even get to his fridge without his scooter tbh.

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm voting BB.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Rubio has peaked and is all downhill from here, same thing with Jebs after his "immigrants are more fertile!" remark.

I think it'll be Hilary vs. someone who makes Mitt Romney look like a Democrat. The 2012 Republican primary had several factors that kept it tame and ensured the least tea-partyish candidate would win. It'll be more controlled by extremism, jeebotardism and white nationalism this time around. IMO, the winner is gonna be a race baiting demagogue like Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, or someone we haven't even heard of yet. Corporations are a lot more concerned with a far left winger like Elizabeth Warren than they are a far right winger like Ted Cruz, so IMO they'll pour more resources into ensuring the Clinton-era corporatists keep control of the Democratic party.

:lol anyone who thinks Christie has a chance. With all the anger among dumbshit tea baggers who are too stupid to know where they should point the blame at how miserable their lives are, it'll be a cake walk for someone like Cruz or Paul to demonize Christie as a Northeastern elitist.

[ElNono]

You askin if a nigga taking a helicopter to a little league game is running? C'mon son. Doubt that nigga can even get to his fridge without his scooter tbh.

oShTJ90fC34

[Rogue]

Americans can all jump off the cliff before the nation's economy does if they somehow elect another democrat into office

[George Gervin's Afro]

Americans can all jump off the cliff before the nation's economy does if they somehow elect another democrat into office

the gop is a better option? didn't the last recession start late in the 8th year of a republican presidency? the same recession that saw a period where the GOP had all three branhes of govt for a time? that gop?

[Galileo]

Rand Paul is the odds-on favorite and will be the best president since either JFK or Andrew Jackson, depending on how long he stays in office.

Hillary probably will not run. Rubio will not run either. Bush has more baggage than a Fed Ex cargo plane.

[Th'Pusher]

The best thing about Obama leaving office will be watching the 'libertarian' and Tea Potty movements fade into obscurity again.

[Galileo]

The best thing about Obama leaving office will be watching the 'libertarian' and Tea Potty movements fade into obscurity again.

Not likely the Founding Fathers, Rand Paul, or the Constitution will fade away.

[boutons_deux]

Not likely the Founding Fathers, Rand Paul, or the Constitution will fade away.

RP is a corporate shill, like all of them, lying to the tea bagging base that he's on their side. and he's not faded in enough to notice when he fades out.

his look-at-me pandering to KY bubbas and ridgerunners is without significance outside of KY. KY? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Rand Paul is the odds-on favorite20/1 tbh

[Th'Pusher]

Not likely the Founding Fathers, Rand Paul, or the Constitution will fade away.
You mean the Rand Paul that going to back establishment Republican Mitch McConnel as opposed to the Tea Potty challenger for the 2014 KY Senate bid :lol rand Paul is puppet and you are a duped fool.

[Galileo]

You mean the Rand Paul that going to back establishment Republican Mitch McConnel as opposed to the Tea Potty challenger for the 2014 KY Senate bid :lol rand Paul is puppet and you are a duped fool.

McConnell has become a radical libertarian populist:

Mitch McConnell, Fire-Breathing Libertarian Populist

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/08/06/mitch_mcconnell_fire_breathing_libertarian_populis t.html

:ihit

[Galileo]

RP is a corporate shill, like all of them, lying to the tea bagging base that he's on their side. and he's not faded in enough to notice when he fades out.

his look-at-me pandering to KY bubbas and ridgerunners is without significance outside of KY. KY? :lol

The large corporations hate Rand Paul.

[baseline bum]

Rand Paul is the odds-on favorite and will be the best president since either JFK or Andrew Jackson, depending on how long he stays in office.

LOL neocon in a hairpiece.

[Galileo]

LOL neocon in a hairpiece.

You are the lunatic who wants the TSA to grope you, the NSA to snoop on you, and the IRS to target you.

[TheProfessor]

20/1 tbh
Pretty generous, tbh.

[scroteface]

my nigga ted cruz is gonna open up a jar of rapesauce

[baseline bum]

You are the lunatic who wants the TSA to grope you, the NSA to snoop on you, and the IRS to target you.

Because I don't support your neocon idol?

[boutons_deux]

You are the lunatic who wants the TSA to grope you, the NSA to snoop on you, and the IRS to target you.

Even RP had the power, he wouldn't roll back any of it.

[EVAY]

We all lose: 1 to 1

+1

[EVAY]

I threw away my vote last time because voting in Texas means never having to say it makes a difference how you vote.

Next time, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

Last time was the first time I didn't make a choice between the two primary parties. But I feel like I can't bitch about how it is going since I really didn't even try to influence it.

[Galileo]

Because I don't support your neocon idol?

The neocans hate Rand Paul. You are a suspected neocon troll.

[Blake]

I'll bet on the field at this point

[Galileo]

Even RP had the power, he wouldn't roll back any of it.

Rand Paul will systematically dismantle government by enacting all the laws he has been proposing.

[Galileo]

Pretty generous, tbh.

Rand is leading in the polls in 7 states!

:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The large corporations hate Rand Paul.

sans Apple after the blowjob he gave them during the congressional hearing over their taxes

[Galileo]

sans Apple after the blowjob he gave them during the congressional hearing over their taxes

Rand Paul opposes the Fed. Troll.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Rand Paul opposes the Fed. Troll.

I'm not sure what the Fed has to do with Rand Paul burying his head neck deep in Apple's ass.

[scott]

Only liberty hating trolls support Rand Paul.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Only liberty hating trolls support Rand Paul.

Truth bombs.

[Galileo]

I'm not sure what the Fed has to do with Rand Paul burying his head neck deep in Apple's ass.

Apple is a small business. The Fed is a large corporation.

[baseline bum]

LOL loving a neocon Republican.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Apple is a small business.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao now you're saying the company with the largest market cap in the US is a "small business" :lmao:lmao

:lol troll

[Clipper Nation]

Hillary 2.5 to 1

Rubio 6 to 1

Jeb Bush 9 to 1
Neocon shill: 100% odds

[Clipper Nation]

Rand is leading in the polls in 7 states!

:lmao
Because he's a garden-variety neocon who has zero in common with his father, and he gives inbred GOP voters an excuse not to vote for the Latino with the same platform :lol

[Jacob1983]

I think Spurstalk needs to have a class on the definition of neoconservatism because a lot of peckers and bubbas on here have no clue what it means.

[AFBlue]

Hillary has organization, money and Bill...but her likability is going to be a big detractor. She's also been on the scene for more than two decades, so she lacks the outsider appeal. 2-1 seems pretty high.

[scroteface]

rand paul is an open boarders pushing traitor, he can serve time for his crimes with the rest when we take back the republic

[Galileo]

Because he's a garden-variety neocon who has zero in common with his father, and he gives inbred GOP voters an excuse not to vote for the Latino with the same platform :lol

Rand Paul has exactly the same voting record as Ron Paul.

[ElNono]

Rand Paul is the best thing that ever happened to the Democratic party... imploding the GOP from within... you have to start wondering at some point if he isn't a Dem operative...

[Jacob1983]

If a person is a neocon, doesn't that mean that they support nation building, foreign aid to every country, and overthrowing dictators? You can hate and shit on Rand Paul all you want but I don't see any evidence of him supporting that stuff. If you look at his record, he is more liberal than Pelosi when it comes to nation building. However, Pelosi is probably a bad example for liberalism since she supports the NDAA and the Patriot Act.

[ElNono]

If a person is a neocon, doesn't that mean that they support nation building, foreign aid to every country, and overthrowing dictators? You can hate and shit on Rand Paul all you want but I don't see any evidence of him supporting that stuff. If you look at his record, he is more liberal than Pelosi when it comes to nation building. However, Pelosi is probably a bad example for liberalism since she supports the NDAA and the Patriot Act.

Rand Paul: "No what this debate really is about is that in order to have enough money for national defense, which I think is a priority for the government, you have to be willing to cut spending in other places"

:lol MIC shill
:lol more military spending

[SA210]

If a person is a neocon, doesn't that mean that they support nation building, foreign aid to every country, and overthrowing dictators? You can hate and shit on Rand Paul all you want but I don't see any evidence of him supporting that stuff. If you look at his record, he is more liberal than Pelosi when it comes to nation building. However, Pelosi is probably a bad example for liberalism since she supports the NDAA and the Patriot Act.

Shhh. Facts aren't allowed on this board. lol

[ChumpDumper]

Hillary has organization, money and Bill...but her likability is going to be a big detractor. She's also been on the scene for more than two decades, so she lacks the outsider appeal. 2-1 seems pretty high.You forgot about women.

[boutons_deux]

You forgot about women.

and blacks, Hispanics, LGBT, red-state women pissed off by anti-abortion terrorists, red-state/poor people who will have been helped by ACA.

Repugs are screwed, no matter whom they nominate, and they will be forced to nominate a very hard right asshole because their primaries will be as nasty as 2012. That's why they are running scorched earth voter suppression strategy thanks to the VRWC shills on SCOTUS killing VRA Sec 4.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If a person is a neocon, doesn't that mean that they support nation building, foreign aid to every country, and overthrowing dictators?

You just described Rand Paul :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Hillary has organization, money and Bill...but her likability is going to be a big detractor. She's also been on the scene for more than two decades, so she lacks the outsider appeal. 2-1 seems pretty high.

It's only retarded right wing inbreds who like the appeal of "outsiders" like Sarah Palin :lol

[SA210]

I too believe Rand is not exactly like his father, and hated his endorsement of Romney..but this is true lol

https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1150358_581834685188635_174542320_n.jpg

[Th'Pusher]

I too believe Rand is not exactly like his father, and hated his endorsement of Romney..but this is true lol

https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1150358_581834685188635_174542320_n.jpg
What about the fact that he is backing establishment republicn Mitch McConnell as oppose to the tea potty challanger for the senate bid?

[Galileo]

What about the fact that he is backing establishment republicn Mitch McConnell as oppose to the tea potty challanger for the senate bid?

show me where in the Constitution that Rand cannot endorse Mitch McChinless?

[Th'Pusher]

show me where in the Constitution that Rand cannot endorse Mitch McChinless?
I didn't say he couldn't. But it speaks to the fact that he is a shill for the establishment and his dog and pony show that he puts on in congress is nothing more than a sham to fool morons like yourself into believing he is a constitutionalist. He's a fucking GOP shill just like the rest of them.

[Galileo]

I didn't say he couldn't. But it speaks to the fact that he is a shill for the establishment and his dog and pony show that he puts on in congress is nothing more than a sham to fool morons like yourself into believing he is a constitutionalist. He's a fucking GOP shill just like the rest of them.

no, Rand is co-opting the establishment one-by-one. McConnell is now a libertarian tea party activist. YOU are just upset that the GOP establishment is defecting to Rand Paul's camp.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

McConnell is now a libertarian tea party activist.

Right, and Apple is a small business :lol

[Galileo]

Right, and Apple is a small business :lol

McConnell now supports industrial hemp. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[Th'Pusher]

no, Rand is co-opting the establishment one-by-one. McConnell is now a libertarian tea party activist. YOU are just upset that the GOP establishment is defecting to Rand Paul's camp.
Is that why Jesse Benton is 'holding his nose' about being McConnell's campaign manager. :lol at 'libertarians' now sticking up for Mitch McConnell because their hero tells them to.

You sir are a grade a moron.

[Galileo]

Is that why Jesse Benton is 'holding his nose' about being McConnell's campaign manager. :lol at 'libertarians' now sticking up for Mitch McConnell because their hero tells them to.

You sir are a grade a moron.

Benton said that back in January before McConnell was fully re-programmed, dumbshit.

[Jacob1983]

I'm confused. I thought Rand Paul had been on record being against nation building, the NSA, the NDAA, Gitmo, and illegal surveillance and wiretaps? If you are against those things, are you a neocon? Silly libtards and Obama koolaid drinkers seem to think so. I think it's funny how their lord and savior fully supports that shit yet their guy Obama isn't a neocon. Obama is Bush on steroids.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm confused. I thought Rand Paul had been on record being against nation building, the NSA, the NDAA, Gitmo, and illegal surveillance and wiretaps? If you are against those things, are you a neocon? Silly libtards and Obama koolaid drinkers seem to think so. I think it's funny how their lord and savior fully supports that shit yet their guy Obama isn't a neocon. Obama is Bush on steroids.
Obama is a neocon. So is Rand Paul.

[pgardn]

Republicans attempting to dismantle ANY plan put forward to address ANY problem, dooms them.

The DESTROY platform of the tea smokers dug the grave early.

[Galileo]

Right, and Apple is a small business :lol

There you go, defending the Federal Reserve again.

[rascal]

Americans can all jump off the cliff before the nation's economy does if they somehow elect another democrat into office

Your obsession with that blonde who is not anything special(I see better looking girls in the local Mall) kills what you say about anything else.

[Th'Pusher]

Benton said that back in January before McConnell was fully re-programmed, dumbshit.
:lol yeah McConnell will be fully reprogrammed right up until the point when he gets re-elected at which time hill revert to his GOP establishment cock stroking ways. I honestly can't believe you tea bags are this gullible.

[Galileo]

:lol yeah McConnell will be fully reprogrammed right up until the point when he gets re-elected at which time hill revert to his GOP establishment cock stroking ways. I honestly can't believe you tea bags are this gullible.

Not likely with Rand there. One thing you do not do; you do not cross Rand.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Not likely with Rand there. One thing you do not do; you do not cross Rand.

The fat wop from New Jersey crossed Rand and then ate him for Lunch :lol

[scroteface]

The fat wop from New Jersey crossed Rand and then ate him for Lunch :lol

more of a fag fight imho, both should kill themselves tho

[Galileo]

The fat wop from New Jersey crossed Rand and then ate him for Lunch :lol

LOL!!!

Favorable / Unfavorable {Net} - Among Registered Voters

Among Republicans

Rand Paul 67% / 11% {+56%}
Jeb Bush 68% / 19% {+49%}
Chris Christie 48% / 38% {+10%}

Among Independents

Rand Paul 41% / 27% {+14%}
Chris Christie 38% / 33% {+5%}
Jeb Bush 27% / 44% {-17%}

http://www.argojournal.com/2013/08/poll-watch-yougov-2016-presidential.html

[Th'Pusher]

LOL!!!

Favorable / Unfavorable {Net} - Among Registered Voters

Among Republicans

Rand Paul 67% / 11% {+56%}
Jeb Bush 68% / 19% {+49%}
Chris Christie 48% / 38% {+10%}

Among Independents

Rand Paul 41% / 27% {+14%}
Chris Christie 38% / 33% {+5%}
Jeb Bush 27% / 44% {-17%}

http://www.argojournal.com/2013/08/poll-watch-yougov-2016-presidential.html

Among College Graduates
Chris Christie 54% / 34% {+20%}
Rand Paul 43% / 40% {+3%}
Jeb Bush 38% / 47% {-9%}


Iow, uneducated people prefer Rand Paul. :lol

[scroteface]

Among College Graduates
Chris Christie 54% / 34% {+20%}
Rand Paul 43% / 40% {+3%}
Jeb Bush 38% / 47% {-9%}


Iow, uneducated people prefer Rand Paul. :lol

it's been proven time and time again politics dont really come from education, you can be a harvard grad and still vote for a shithead like barrack obama tbh the reason most grads tend to vote liberal is because they are taught my liberal professors in liberal institutions.

[Th'Pusher]

it's been proven time and time again politics dont really come from education
Wtf? You're a shitty troll and you're really going to need to learn to communicate for me to engage you.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Among College Graduates
Chris Christie 54% / 34% {+20%}
Rand Paul 43% / 40% {+3%}
Jeb Bush 38% / 47% {-9%}


Iow, uneducated people prefer Rand Paul. :lol
Uneducated people prefer Republicans :lol

"I don't need to no fancy schmancy college grad! I want a retarded slut like Sarah Palin who went to 6 different colleges because she flunked out so many times! Stupidity and jeebotardism will return America to the promise land!"

[scroteface]

let me break it down for you:

"college educated" people still vote for some fucktarded candidates, take your faux phony baseless liberal superiority complex and shove it up your ass

[scroteface]

Herp derp I voted for Barrack O'nigga because i'm a college educated libtard! Derp!

If only there were more liberals like you guys to save us :cry

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I didn't vote for Obama in 2012.

I voted for him in 2008, but then again so did you :lol

If only we had more great conservative candidates like Willard Romney to save us.

[scroteface]

I'm talking in general, it's asinine to sit there and act all high and mighty "yeah, us smart college edumuhcated people vote democrat!" whenever they're 2 arms of the same beast and both candidates suck ASS, mainly talking to shit'pushed dude needs to contemplate ending his existence on this earth.

[Th'Pusher]

let me break it down for you:

"college educated" people still vote for some fucktarded candidates, take your faux phony baseless liberal superiority complex and shove it up your ass
Do you have a college degree scroteface?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm talking in general, it's asinine to sit there and act all high and mighty "yeah, us smart college edumuhcated people vote democrat!" whenever they're 2 arms of the same beast and both candidates suck ASS, mainly talking to shit'pushed dude needs to contemplate ending his existence on this earth.
I don't think he was saying that, he was comparing Chris Christie and Rand Paul, two mainstream run-of-the-mill neocons.

[Th'Pusher]

I'm talking in general, it's asinine to sit there and act all high and mighty "yeah, us smart college edumuhcated people vote democrat!" whenever they're 2 arms of the same beast and both candidates suck ASS, mainly talking to shit'pushed dude needs to contemplate ending his existence on this earth.
Oh my. Another emotional tailspin from a political forum conservative. Thinking with his gut instead of his head. :tu

[Th'Pusher]

I don't think he was saying that, he was comparing Chris Christie and Rand Paul, two mainstream run-of-the-mill neocons.
And of those two mainstream neocons, educated people prefer Christie over Paul. Just the facts here.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

And of those two mainstream neocons, educated people prefer Christie over Paul. Just the facts here.
Rand Paul just alienating the educated people he's supposed alienate. No surprises here.

[scroteface]

I don't think he was saying that, he was comparing Chris Christie and Rand Paul, two mainstream run-of-the-mill neocons.

chris christie is a liberal in disguise as a republican same shit. he was taking the more liberal guys side over the neocon and bringing education into the equation. that dude christie sucks off obama like his personal bitch.

[scroteface]

Do you have a college degree scroteface?

dude seriously? you're the typical american know it all dumbfuck who i'm trying to get the hell away from, i graduated top of my glass and i'm going back for a 2nd degree that will be more beneficial to me in the country that i'm leaving to. fuck you american liberal assholes.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

chris christie is a liberal in disguise as a republican same shit. he was taking the more liberal guys side over the neocon and bringing education into the equation. that dude christie sucks off obama like his personal bitch.
Christie has a Republican stance on like every issue. Pro-life, anti-gay marriage, anti-public education, anti-government spending, etc. He sucked Obama off once during Hurricane Sandy (gubbamint weather!) and made conservatives ultra butthurt because he did it right before the election while he made a bunch of Obama shills fall in love with him in spite of the fact he still endorsed Romney. I agree a bunch of liberals like the guy, but it's for superficial reasons.

[Th'Pusher]

dude seriously? you're the typical american know it all dumbfuck who i'm trying to get the hell away from, i graduated top of my glass and i'm going back for a 2nd degree that will be more beneficial to me in the country that i'm leaving to. fuck you american liberal assholes.
Oh really? What's your major and where are you heading? Dont be so emotional buddy. It's just an Internet conversation with two anonymous assholes.

[scroteface]

engineering

[m>s]

As much as I hate where this country is going I would still rather live in the US than anywhere else. Sure, it's no longer the finest place to live in: crimes, pollution, dumbasses wandering all over the streets, things I want to get rid of, all of them... but there's still hardly any place that's fine enough to convince me to leave my hometown and move over there. Lack of political freedom, cultural disparity... things I would have to take into account before making the decision whether to move or not. If I do want a bit of change I'd then move to another US city, like New York or Los Angeles. This country has enough diversity within her boundary to give me every possible change I need and covet, imho.

[Galileo]

Among College Graduates
Chris Christie 54% / 34% {+20%}
Rand Paul 43% / 40% {+3%}
Jeb Bush 38% / 47% {-9%}


Iow, uneducated people prefer Rand Paul. :lol

not true, Rand is +3 with college graduates.

:lmao

[Th'Pusher]

engineering
Mechanical, computer, electrical?

[Th'Pusher]

not true, Rand is +3 with college graduates.

:lmao
And Chris Christie is +20. Would you rather be +3 or +20.

[scroteface]

Mechanical, computer, electrical?

Mechanical of course, only fitting to join the worlds largest production based economy.

[Th'Pusher]

Mechanical of course, only fitting to join the worlds largest production based economy.
Meh. I would have gone chemical. But that will serve you well. Maybe you'll learn to string together a coherent thought and start adding some real value to the political forum.

[Th'Pusher]

I look forward got it.

[Rogue]

Your obsession with that blonde who is not anything special(I see better looking girls in the local Mall) kills what you say about anything else.
I didn't vote for Obama, neither in 08 nor 12, I never voted to be exact. But I will give everything I have to help with the odd of my goddess winning the 2032 presidential election tbh. It ain't just her look that intrigues me, I'm fascinated by everything about her, her exquisite charisma, her unusual life experience etc...

[pgardn]

Mechanical of course, only fitting to join the worlds largest production based economy.

God I love free body diagrams...

[Galileo]

Sarah Palin Slams Chris Christie: "I’m On Team Rand"

“Chris Christie’s for more government and his record proves that, whereas Rand Paul with that healthy libertarian streak that we need more of, in our politicians, team Rand Paul.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/sarah-palin-slams-chris-christie-im-on-team-rand

:flag:

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Sarah Palin Slams Chris Christie: "I’m On Team Rand"

“Chris Christie’s for more government and his record proves that, whereas Rand Paul with that healthy libertarian streak that we need more of, in our politicians, team Rand Paul.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/sarah-palin-slams-chris-christie-im-on-team-rand

:flag:
:lmao:lmao is getting an endorsement from Sarah Palin supposed to be a good thing?

[baseline bum]

Sarah Palin Slams Chris Christie: "I’m On Team Rand"

“Chris Christie’s for more government and his record proves that, whereas Rand Paul with that healthy libertarian streak that we need more of, in our politicians, team Rand Paul.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/sarah-palin-slams-chris-christie-im-on-team-rand

:flag:

Good score for Christie there.

[Galileo]

:lmao:lmao is getting an endorsement from Sarah Palin supposed to be a good thing?

That's how Rand won his senate seat, he got an early endorsement from Palin. You are just jealous.

[Galileo]

Good score for Christie there.

U R jealous. Palin has a crush on Rand.

:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol that dumb slut thinks in such simplistic terms.

Team Rand!
Team Chris!

I didn't know we were watching a movie about gay vampires.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That's how Rand won his senate seat, he got an early endorsement from Palin. You are just jealous.
So he got an endorsement from a one of the most notorious fear mongering islamaphobic neocons in America?

:lol proving my point
:lol Palinfan
:lol mainstream Republican

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

U R jealous. Palin has a crush on Rand.

:lmao
Please. It's been known for years that Palin's fantasy is getting her kidnies relocated by kunta kinte's middle leg

http://oi56.tinypic.com/14ke1yr.jpg

[baseline bum]

U R jealous. Palin has a crush on Rand.

:lmao

That would be bad news for America, since bitch already has one retarded kid tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol "Rand isn't a neocon"
:lol Proudly boasting about the endorsements Rand's getting from neocons

Btw, I fucking loathe the fact that dumbass neocons have discovered the word "libertarian" and call themselves that.... as an actual libertarian, I'd rather not be lumped in with the Palins of the world....

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

That would be bad news for America, since bitch already has one retarded kid tbh.
What's the difference between Sarah Palin's mouth and Sarah Palin's vagina?

[baseline bum]

What's the difference between Sarah Palin's mouth and Sarah Palin's vagina?

One has bad breath and has only shackled our nation with one retarded thing?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

One has bad breath and has only shackled our nation with one retarded thing?
:lol basically.


Only some of the things that come out of her vagina are retarded.

[Galileo]

Rand Paul Wins MarketWatch Poll, They Still Claim Chris Christie Everyone’s ‘Favorite Politician’

Rand Paul 35.7%
Chris Christie 31.0%
Hillary Clinton 26.4%
Other 5.8%
Joe Biden 1.1%

http://www.randpaulreview.com/2013/08/rand-paul-wins-poll-marketwatch-claims-chris-christie-everyones-favorite-politician/

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

RP will NEVER be President, will NEVER be even the Pres candidate

[Galileo]

RP will NEVER be President, will NEVER be even the Pres candidate

Keep talking to yourself, while reality slides by.

[boutons_deux]

Keep talking to yourself, while reality slides by.

... says G, totally infatuated with and lost in the fantasy of RP being anything but an extreme fringe asshole from fucking KY.

[Galileo]

Poll: Rand Paul leads GOP presidential primary in Arkansas

Rand Paul 21%
Marco Rubio 17%

Note: Ted Cruz, Bobby Jindal, Chris Christie, and Scott Walker each receive less than 10 percent.

http://race42016.com/2013/08/11/poll-watch-the-polling-companywomantrend-r-arkansas-2016-presidential-survey/

:lmao

[George Gervin's Afro]

engineering

your a dumbass

[ElNono]

Sarah Palin Slams Chris Christie: "I’m On Team Rand"

“Chris Christie’s for more government and his record proves that, whereas Rand Paul with that healthy libertarian streak that we need more of, in our politicians, team Rand Paul.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/sarah-palin-slams-chris-christie-im-on-team-rand

:flag:

wtf? :lmao

Definitely a Palin quote... :lol

[scroteface]

your a dumbass
Is that supposed to affect me, coming from a be@ner pussyboy?

[The Reckoning]

i think it's well known that paul supporters are the only ones who vote in polls

[Jacob1983]

Chris Christie will never be the GOP nominee or a 3rd party nominee for president. He is too fat. And you guys know that being fat in America is a strike against you. Not gonna happen.

[ElNono]

I'm gonna go on a limb, and actually predict Christie will win the nomination if he decides to run... basically, the thinking goes like this:

Establishment republican: check
Fairly popular: check
Neocon: check
Conservative but not fringe: check
Hasn't dissed the jeebotard base: check
Bully: check

I think he's actually the more "presidential" candidate the GOP can have right now. Dems will probably take potshots at "fat" and questionable economic numbers in NJ. But that's about all the weak links.

On the other hand, it's too easy to scare off voters with the "fringe" stuff from Paul/Bachman/Santorum, etc. You know the party will back a establishment guy over a tea potty. He also gets the Neocon support. He didn't burn bridges with the jeebotards (still standing firm on vetoing gay marriage, plus if they could align behind a mormon, anything goes, tbh). He has shown he's willing to work with Dems on delicate situations. Above all, he's shown he can raise above the partisan bullshit (big plus to fetch independents, which you need to win an election).

The only question is if he's going to run. IIRC, he's running for re-election as governor right now.

[Galileo]

I'm gonna go on a limb, and actually predict Christie will win the nomination if he decides to run... basically, the thinking goes like this:

Establishment republican: check
Fairly popular: check
Neocon: check
Conservative but not fringe: check
Hasn't dissed the jeebotard base: check
Bully: check

I think he's actually the more "presidential" candidate the GOP can have right now. Dems will probably take potshots at "fat" and questionable economic numbers in NJ. But that's about all the weak links.

On the other hand, it's too easy to scare off voters with the "fringe" stuff from Paul/Bachman/Santorum, etc. You know the party will back a establishment guy over a tea potty. He also gets the Neocon support. He didn't burn bridges with the jeebotards (still standing firm on vetoing gay marriage, plus if they could align behind a mormon, anything goes, tbh). He has shown he's willing to work with Dems on delicate situations. Above all, he's shown he can raise above the partisan bullshit (big plus to fetch independents, which you need to win an election).

The only question is if he's going to run. IIRC, he's running for re-election as governor right now.

Christie can't win. He is very unpopular with the GOP base. His role is to try to win NH from Rand Paul.

[Blake]

Keep talking to yourself, while reality slides by.

Are you willing to put money down on Rand Paul getting elected?

[Galileo]

Are you willing to put money down on Rand Paul getting elected?

NOYB!

[TeyshaBlue]

i think it's well known that paul supporters are the only ones who vote in polls

All 300 of them!

[Clipper Nation]

Christie will be installed as nominee whether voters want him or not, just like Willard was, tbh.... the GOP is all about the backroom deals and the good ol' boy network....

Christie's the safe neocon who won't cut spending, won't restore sound money, won't rein in our out-of-control foreign policy, etc.... nobody else stands a chance, tbh....

That being said, he'll lose to Hillary in the general election.... I don't see the GOP winning another presidential election until they finally abandon the neocon platform, make an effort to attract young voters, and nominate a libertarian (an actual one, not a Tea Party neocon calling themselves one) who's in touch with modern society....

[boutons_deux]

Christie certainly "looks presidential" :lol

http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/191280/christieobama_kevinlamarque_reuters.jpg

literally a Wall St FAT cat.

[Galileo]

Holder’s move on mandatory minimums a boon to Rand Paul

Reforming mandatory minimums is an issue that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has been pushing (no pun intended) for a while now — including during an appearance at historically black Howard University earlier this year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/08/12/holders-move-on-mandatory-minimums-a-boon-to-rand-paul/?fb_action_ids=1112646031570&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

[boutons_deux]

here's candidate Christie and his VEEP with "a bucket of warm spit"

http://www.magicasruinas.com.ar/fotos/del30/gordoyflaco.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Holder’s move on mandatory minimums a boon to Rand Paul

Reforming mandatory minimums is an issue that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has been pushing (no pun intended) for a while now — including during an appearance at historically black Howard University earlier this year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/08/12/holders-move-on-mandatory-minimums-a-boon-to-rand-paul/?fb_action_ids=1112646031570&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

the difference is Holder has an office that can do something, and RP is little bitch whining in the backwoods of KY

[Galileo]

wtf? :lmao

Definitely a Palin quote... :lol

Holder’s move on mandatory minimums a boon to Rand Paul

Reforming mandatory minimums is an issue that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has been pushing (no pun intended) for a while now — including during an appearance at historically black Howard University earlier this year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/08/12/holders-move-on-mandatory-minimums-a-boon-to-rand-paul/?fb_action_ids=1112646031570&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

[Galileo]

the difference is Holder has an office that can do something, and RP is little bitch whining in the backwoods of KY

Wrong, Holder is NOT a senator and cannot vote. Rand is a prominent senator who can move mountains.

[boutons_deux]

Wrong, Holder is NOT a senator and cannot vote. Rand is a prominent senator who can move mountains.

prominent! :lol

he's got one vote. I suppose he has the KY vote from the backwoods meth and oxycontin abusers

federal sentencing guidelines come from the United States Sentencing Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Sentencing_Commission), not from a Senate vote

"The United States Sentencing Commission is an independent agency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_agencies_of_the_United_States_governme nt) of the judicial branch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judiciary) of the federal government of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States).[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Sentencing_Commission#cite_note-ussc_overview-1)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Sentencing_Commission

[ElNono]

Christie can't win.

okay

[Blake]

NOYB!

none of my business? In large font? Why? Are you really betting against Paul like me?

You're weird.

[TeyshaBlue]

:lmao

[TeyshaBlue]

Paul exists as an apparition only. The moment he emerges into the political arena, he disappears in a puff of logic.

[boutons_deux]

Krugman trashing RP for his libertarian bullshit and inconsistencies. Does RP even know Friedman is dead?

Milton Friedman, UnpersonRecently Senator Rand Paul, potential presidential candidate and self-proclaimed expert on monetary issues, sat down for an interview (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-08-08/rand-paul-on-republicans-voter-appeal-and-the-federal-reserve) with Bloomberg Businessweek. It didn’t go too well. For example, Mr. Paul talked about America running “a trillion-dollar deficit every year”; actually, the deficit is projected to be only $642 billion in 2013, and it’s falling fast.

But the most interesting moment may have been when Mr. Paul was asked whom he would choose, ideally, to head the Federal Reserve and he suggested Milton Friedman — “he’s not an Austrian, but he would be better than what we have.”

The interviewer then gently informed him that Friedman — who would have been 101 years old if he were still alive — is, in fact, dead. O.K., said Mr. Paul, “Let’s just go with dead, because then you probably really wouldn’t have much of a functioning Federal Reserve.”

Which suggests an interesting question: What ever happened to Friedman’s role as a free-market icon? The answer to that question says a lot about what has happened to modern conservatism.

For Friedman, who used to be the ultimate avatar of conservative economics, has essentially disappeared from right-wing discourse. Oh, he gets name-checked now and then — but only for his political polemics, never for his monetary theories. Instead, Rand Paul turns to the “Austrian” view of thinkers like Friedrich Hayek (http://mises.org/Literature/Author/126) — a view Friedman once described as an “atrophied and rigid caricature (http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1830418?uid=3739832&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21102526896661)” — while Paul Ryan, the G.O.P.’s de facto intellectual leader, gets his monetary economics from Ayn Rand, or more precisely from fictional characters (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/08/13/what_paul_ryan_s_ayn_rand_fandom_means_for_monetar y_policy.html) in “Atlas Shrugged.”


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/12/opinion/krugman-milton-friedman-unperson.html

[Jacob1983]

Too fat to be president. The Democrats would use Christie's weight against him just like they used McCain's age against him. Besides, why do you even care? America is so fucked up right now that it doesn't matter who is president.

[ElNono]

Too fat to be president. The Democrats would use Christie's weight against him just like they used McCain's age against him. Besides, why do you even care? America is so fucked up right now that it doesn't matter who is president.

Most americans are overweight anyways, tbh... if that's his major weakness, then he's in good shape (pun intended).

[Jacob1983]

Even if he survived the GOP primaries and wound up as the GOP nominee, the media would destroy him because of his weight. There is no way that a fat GOP nominee would ever beat a skinny liberal Democratic nominee in America. Being fat is on the same level as being a cigarette smoker in American society.

[ElNono]

Still not buying it. Look at Oprah, fat and black. Plus if the alternative is a skinny teapotty, might aswell not even show up.

[Jacob1983]

Oprah is also a liberal and huge contributor to the Democratic Party. She is also a huge Obama jizz drinker. Those things make her untouchable. A fatty fat fatty GOP nominee will never become president.

[ElNono]

Oprah is also a liberal and huge contributor to the Democratic Party. She is also a huge Obama jizz drinker. Those things make her untouchable. A fatty fat fatty GOP nominee will never become president.

we'll see. I think the next election is the GOP's to lose. But after looking at the last one, you can't take anything for granted anymore.

[boutons_deux]

"I think the next election is the GOP's to lose"

:lol

the primaries will be full of extremist assholes like Santorum, Paul, etc who will drive the candidate into saying extremist right-y crap to convince the extremist bubba, gun fellating base.


GOP searches for its missing white voters, too

Romney, who won 59 percent of white voters, would have needed 62.54 percent to beat President Barack Obama, Rove writes.

"That's a tall order, given that Ronald Reagan received 63 percent of the white vote in his 1984 victory, according to the Congressional Quarterly's analysis of major exit polls," Rove writes. "It's unreasonable to expect Republicans to routinely pull numbers that last occurred in a 49-state sweep."

I don't often agree with Rove, but I think he's right this time. As the "autopsy" report found in polls and focus groups revealed, the GOP has lost touch with a lot of voters across racial and ideological lines, leading to their fifth presidential election out of the last six in which the party failed to win a majority of the popular vote.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-08-07/news/ct-oped-0807-page-20130807_1_hispanic-voters-sean-trende-house-republicans

[boutons_deux]

5 Reasons Senior Citizens Are Turning On The GOP

A new national survey by Democracy Corps (http://www.nationalmemo.com/carville-greenberg/why-seniors-are-turning-against-the-gop/) find that seniors support Republican candidates by a mere five percent. Only 28 percent approve of House Republicans, down 15 percent when Republicans took over the lower house of Congress in 2011 — with 71 percent disapproving of their performance. Meanwhile, 40 percent approve of House Democrats up three percent in that same time period.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/5-reasons-senior-citizens-are-turning-against-the-gop/

[Jacob1983]

With the way things are looking right now, no way in hell that the next president will be a Republican. They piss off gay people, women, minorities, young voters, and immigrants. You can't win if you piss those groups off. I would personally love to see a 3rd party emerge and fuck up both the Democratic and Republican Parties in 2016. I know it's very unlikely that 3rd party candidate will ever be president in America. I just think it would be cute and entertaining for a 3rd party candidate to get at least 2 to 5 percent of the vote.

[Clipper Nation]

A third-party candidate could very well win the presidency in today's political climate (i.e. dysfunctional and blindly partisan government, struggling economy, growing number of registered independents).... they would need a Perot-esque war chest in order to get into debates and the media, though....

Hell, Perot was even leading the polls in '92 until it all went to his head and he stopped listening to his campaign staff, tbh....

[boutons_deux]

a 3rd party candidate who wins the Presidency won't be disruptive (destructive of govt, which is what extreme right wingers want) unless his third party also carries Congress. ain't EVER gonna happen.

[Jacob1983]

I just think it would be funny and cool if a 3rd party pissed off the Republicans and Democrats in 2016 by taking at least 2 to 5 percent of the vote and especially taking away votes in swing states.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

A third-party candidate could very well win the presidency in today's political climate (i.e. dysfunctional and blindly partisan government, struggling economy, growing number of registered independents).... they would need a Perot-esque war chest in order to get into debates and the media, though....

Hell, Perot was even leading the polls in '92 until it all went to his head and he stopped listening to his campaign staff, tbh....
Damn shame too because Perot was a prophet when it came to N:lolFTA unlike the two whores he was running against.

[InRareForm]

http://thechiefsports.com/2016/05/us-presidential-race-update-37/

[InRareForm]

I am going to enjoy the meltdown on this board when Clinton wins in 2016

[InRareForm]

Rubio has peaked and is all downhill from here, same thing with Jebs after his "immigrants are more fertile!" remark.

I think it'll be Hilary vs. someone who makes Mitt Romney look like a Democrat. The 2012 Republican primary had several factors that kept it tame and ensured the least tea-partyish candidate would win. It'll be more controlled by extremism, jeebotardism and white nationalism this time around. IMO, the winner is gonna be a race baiting demagogue like Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, or someone we haven't even heard of yet. Corporations are a lot more concerned with a far left winger like Elizabeth Warren than they are a far right winger like Ted Cruz, so IMO they'll pour more resources into ensuring the Clinton-era corporatists keep control of the Democratic party.

:lol anyone who thinks Christie has a chance. With all the anger among dumbshit tea baggers who are too stupid to know where they should point the blame at how miserable their lives are, it'll be a cake walk for someone like Cruz or Paul to demonize Christie as a Northeastern elitist.

wow you called in that 2nd paragraph with trump

[InRareForm]

I'm gonna go on a limb, and actually predict Christie will win the nomination if he decides to run... basically, the thinking goes like this:



KpRTvVnNuLc

[ElNono]

KpRTvVnNuLc

welp, that was a shitty prediction, no doubt :lol

Hopefully he enjoys being Trump's official lapdog though...

[InRareForm]

Hillary -600
Trump 4 to 1

current odds from bovada

[Reck]

welp, that was a shitty prediction, no doubt :lol

Hopefully he enjoys being Trump's official lapdog though...

Isn't he about to get charges brought on him for Bridgegate?

Christie with the rare double dip of fail. Failed campaign..failed Trump lapdog. :lol

[InRareForm]

currents odds:

Hillary -250 Trump +190

[baseline bum]

I was pretty floored to see Hillary gaining 3% on Trump in Florida today on electionbettingodds.com. Did she get a good poll in Florida today? I thought that state has been nothing but disaster for her since Friday.

[pgardn]

currents odds:

Hillary -250 Trump +190

A veritable butt load of betting houses got Briexit wrong.

[florige]

I was pretty floored to see Hillary gaining 3% on Trump in Florida today on electionbettingodds.com. Did she get a good poll in Florida today? I thought that state has been nothing but disaster for her since Friday.


I keep seeing different polls from that state. I say its a tie because I see two or three polls saying Trump is leading then turn around and see three other polls which claim she is ahead. I have really no idea who is ahead in that state.

[Warlord23]

The difference in their ground games will probably add 1% or so to her margins in every battleground state.

Either way, Donnie hasn't taken his eyes off the real prize:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/03/casting-notice-goes-out-for-new-up-and-coming-conservative-news-network.html

[boutons_deux]

The difference in their ground games will probably add 1% or so to her margins in every battleground state.

Either way, Donnie hasn't taken his eyes off the real prize:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/03/casting-notice-goes-out-for-new-up-and-coming-conservative-news-network.html

Trash will pay himself $10Ms as head of his media show, as it goes bankrupt against Fox, stiffing his investors and banks, yet again.

[InRareForm]

Funny to reread this thread