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Winehole23
08-07-2013, 03:23 PM
You probably remember the online outrage over the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) copyright enforcement proposal. Last week, the Department of Commerce’s Internet Policy Task Force released a report (http://www.uspto.gov/news/publications/copyrightgreenpaper.pdf) on digital copyright policy that endorsed one piece of the controversial proposal: making the streaming of copyrighted works a felony.


As it stands now, streaming a copyrighted work over the Internet is considered a violation of the public performance right. The violation is only punishable as a misdemeanor, rather than the felony charges that accompany the reproduction and distribution of copyrighted material.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/05/sopa-died-in-2012-but-obama-administration-wants-to-revive-part-of-it/

Winehole23
08-07-2013, 03:24 PM
factoid of the day: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/07/one-in-25-americans-was-a_n_3720526.html

TeyshaBlue
08-07-2013, 04:54 PM
As as published composer (ugh!) I have mixed feelings about this. BMI licenses my music, when applicable, for a pittance. Most small internet stations (<20,000 TLH/mo ((Total Listening Hours))would pay BMI a flat fee around $40 - $50/mo. That's chicken feed. A violation should follow the same formula. If it's falling in the sub $500, wouldn't that be a very minor offense? Hardly a felony and certainly not criminal...much like it is today.
I don't get what the driver is for upgrading to a felony.

ElNono
08-07-2013, 04:58 PM
As as published composer (ugh!) I have mixed feelings about this. BMI licenses my music, when applicable, for a pittance. Most small internet stations (<20,000 TLH/mo ((Total Listening Hours))would pay BMI a flat fee around $40 - $50/mo. That's chicken feed. A violation should follow the same formula. If it's falling in the sub $500, wouldn't that be a very minor offense? Hardly a felony and certainly not criminal...much like it is today.
I don't get what the driver is for upgrading to a felony.

Apparently to "harmonize" penalties with the other two rights: reproduction and distribution.

Here's the Internet Policy Task Force paper:
http://www.uspto.gov/news/publications/copyrightgreenpaper.pdf

Yeah, I read most of that :P

TeyshaBlue
08-07-2013, 05:00 PM
Streaming is not distribution anymore than airplay. Reproduction is a hazy area tho.

TeyshaBlue
08-07-2013, 05:00 PM
*commences reading of the .gov paper*

ElNono
08-07-2013, 05:05 PM
IMO, besides the excuses, I think it has everything to do with sites that stream live events that your cable co either charges more for (pay per view) or doesn't broadcast at all. Basically, it's quite different to go after these people if the maximum penalty is a misdemeanor vs a felony. The problem is how they word the law. SOPA/PRO-IP had very chilling open-ended wording. "public performance" can be a lot of things, from playing music over the internet to your phone playing a music ringtone. That's why wording is important.

TeyshaBlue
08-07-2013, 05:09 PM
But that is not reproduction, it's distribution. The language is and always has been, pretty straight forward for distribution issues.

I'll read on this tonight tho. At first blush, I'm spectacularly unconvinced we need this.

ElNono
08-07-2013, 05:45 PM
But that is not reproduction, it's distribution. The language is and always has been, pretty straight forward for distribution issues.

I think "streaming" actually falls within public performance, because there's no transfer of a copy, only remote viewing of a copy that's somewhere else. I could be wrong though.


I'll read on this tonight tho. At first blush, I'm spectacularly unconvinced we need this.

Me too.

Rogue
08-07-2013, 08:00 PM
it's gonna be hard to address the criminals though. Some websites may be based in foreign countries, where the American laws don't apply, and americans can still download free movies & music from those sites as long as they exist.

angrydude
08-07-2013, 08:25 PM
Obama protecting corporate profits as usual

baseline bum
08-07-2013, 09:17 PM
Obama protecting corporate profits as usual

It's pathetic that President Uncle Tom was able to get a second term. LOL Republican party.

DUNCANownsKOBE
08-07-2013, 09:22 PM
Obama protecting corporate profits as usual

Wait till Hilary gets into office. She'll put Obama to shame as far as being a total corporate whore disguised as a liberal.

TeyshaBlue
08-08-2013, 09:34 AM
Wait till Hilary gets into office. She'll put Obama to shame as far as being a total corporate whore disguised as a liberal.

Already does, tbh.