If Kobe came before Jordan, Kobe would be considered the GOAT

[Arnold Toht]

truth. all you faggots think MJ>Kobe just because MJ came before him. older player bias. fuck you

[Medvedenko]

I'm on a low sodium diet, so I'll interject:
Kobe>MJ

[Leetonidas]

no he wouldn't, he wouldn't have anyone to copy you dumbfuck

any way you slice is, Jordan is superior. Kobe literally has NO argument, Jordan has him beat in everything. 6 Finals MVPs to 2 LOL :lol:lol:lol

[Michael Jordan.]

Which dominant big was Kobe going to coattail?

[Arnold Toht]

:lol can't even put up more than 69 points in a game
:lol chucker that no one liked to admit

[Arnold Toht]

Which dominant big was Kobe going to coattail?

no need for a dominant big. just give him pippen+rodman+GOAT coach. 6 rings easily

[Leetonidas]

:lol using the amount of points scored in a RS game like it means anything
:lol Kobe only scoring 50 in a playoff game as his career high
:lol jordan hanging 63 on one of the greatest teams of all-time in the playoffs
:lol Jordan averaging 40+ for an entire Finals series while Kobe routinely shits the bed


try again faggot

[AchillesHeel]

if Kobe came before MJ he'd be another Jerry Stackhouse or Rip Hamilton.

[Arnold Toht]

if Kobe came before MJ he'd be another Jerry Stackhouse or Rip Hamilton.

:lol neither of those guys can put up 25/5/5 consistently for 18 years

[Arnold Toht]

:lol using the amount of points scored in a RS game like it means anything
:lol Kobe only scoring 50 in a playoff game as his career high
:lol jordan hanging 63 on one of the greatest teams of all-time in the playoffs
:lol Jordan averaging 40+ for an entire Finals series while Kobe routinely shits the bed


try again faggot

:lol ignoring the basis of my question

[Leetonidas]

first of all, you didn't ask a question, you made a retarded statement. secondly, I've already responded to that. your rapist has said a hundred times he modeled his game after MJ so without the GOAT to base his play/moves off of he wouldn't be shit.


trying faggot. stick to your tim duncan homo threads because you don't know how to legitimately talk basketball anyway

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

if Kobe came before MJ he'd be another Jerry Stackhouse or Rip Hamilton.

Who is that red headed slut climbing on the table in your sig?

[Arnold Toht]

^ then he would model his game after the other MJ or even Larry
:lol thinking Kobe's success has anything to do with modeling dad-killer

[Leetonidas]

6>5
6>2
30>25
Jordan>Kobe

[Leetonidas]

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/kobe_vs_jordan.png

add a couple AS appearances for Kobe and a couple more first-team nods and Jordan still shits all over him :lmao

[Leetonidas]

tbh you should be trying to compare Kobe to LeBron while you still have time before it becomes apparent to everyone that LeBron is the superior basketball player, Kobe isn't even on Jordan's level.

[Arnold Toht]

Kobe 5>LeBron 2

:lol. In a few years we'll have a championship squad again, the final ring count will be

Kobe 7-Duncan 4 + 6
Kobe 7-Jordan 6
Kobe 7-Shaq 4

[Leetonidas]

kobe is done winning titles, accept it. 7 is a fucking pipedream :lmao

and LeBron's only 28, in his prime, and still going. Kobe is old as fuck, one the decline, and coming off of a severe injury and still eats up more than half of his team's cap space. good look winning a title with Luol Deng or Danny Granger faggot :lol

[Arnold Toht]

:lol spurfan giving up on the duncan>kobe retarded argument
:lol jumping on lebron's jock early

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/kobe_vs_jordan.png

add a couple AS appearances for Kobe and a couple more first-team nods and Jordan still shits all over him :lmao

[Michael Jordan.]

no need for a dominant big. just give him pippen+rodman+GOAT coach. 6 rings easily

:lol "no need for a dominant big" when he's never won without a dominant big.

[Leetonidas]

What's really hilarious, is that Kobe is about to be 35, and you think "in a few years" you'll have a championship squad again, so let's say that's 3 years and Kobe will be 38 :lmao and now he's going to win two more titles and still be winning when he is 40 :lmao :lmao :lmao holy shit you're retarded

[Arnold Toht]

:lol "dominant" pau gasol winless in playoffs without Kobe

[Leetonidas]

:lol spurfan giving up on the duncan>kobe retarded argument
:lol jumping on lebron's jock early
now you're just dodging. you made a thread about jordan and kobe, why are you claiming spurfan has given up on Duncan>Kobe when this thread is about Jordan>Kobe? so you realize you're a retard and Kobe has no argument so you want to move the goalposts now? :lol typical lakerfan

[Arnold Toht]

What's really hilarious, is that Kobe is about to be 35, and you think "in a few years" you'll have a championship squad again, so let's say that's 3 years and Kobe will be 38 :lmao and now he's going to win two more titles and still be winning when he is 40 :lmao :lmao :lmao holy shit you're retarded

:lol we're already the 2015 NBA champions after next year's FA pool
:lol not a stretch to say Kobe'll ring #7 by age 40

[Leetonidas]

:lol "dominant" pau gasol winless in playoffs without Kobe

"better than MJ" Kobe Bryant missing the playoffs and choking 3-1 series leads before Pau came to town :lol

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol Kobe quit three times withou t a dominant big
:lol 30 pts/20 rebounds a game between Bynum and Gasol
:lol Gasol shooting damn near 60% in the post
:lol Kobe's career high is 46%

[Leetonidas]

:lol we're already the 2015 NBA champions after next year's FA pool
:lol not a stretch to say Kobe'll ring #7 by age 40

Lakers aren't getting shit next summer :lmao

lol no one wants to play with Kobe
lol biggest FA signing in the Kobe era being Ron Artest
lol one of the best Cs in the league turned down 30 million dollars to get away from kobe
lol begging that C to stay then claiming he isn't shit when he shat on your franchise
lol irrelevant til kobe retires because he refuses to take a paycut

do you know how the salary cap works?

[DMC]

There's no legitimate argument for the comparison tbh. If there was we'd see more Lakerfan calling Kobe over MJ but until a player can lead a team to two 3peats and dominate the league like MJ did without significant help (meaning he captures other accolades along the way for scoring, defense and such), there will never be a real player comparison between MJ and anyone. Lebron has the chance, but he might have hurt that by going to Miami. I doubt he gives a shit. Some Lakerfans know this which is why they hate Lebron so much. They know Lebron is the air apparent that Kobe couldn't be regardless how the media tried to make it so. Shaq was both the giver and the taker in that circus, since he gave Kobe a 3peat and took the Finals MVPs that Kobe so desperately needed in order to stay on the path. No 2nd string is going to be GOAT. It's not even debatable.

[DMC]

If Scotty Pippen grabbed a couple Finals MVPs after playing with MJ, he'd still not be the GOAT.

[AchillesHeel]

:lol neither of those guys can put up 25/5/5 consistently for 18 years

If Kobe came before MJ he wouldn't play the same way, are you going to deny that he borrowed a lot of MJ? And also he got a lot from Hakeem that MJ himself learned from, the dreamshake, the footwork in the post, Kirby didn't invent those things himself. He saw and he emulated them. He goes to Hakeem every now and then to improve his post game, a year ago he added Dirk's fadeaway to his arsenal.

[AchillesHeel]

Who is that red headed slut climbing on the table in your sig?

ariana grande

[benefactor]

All time greats don't quit on their team.

/thread

[resistanze]

http://thewhistle.com/media/uploads/basketball/jordan_james_kobe_infographic.jpg

[whitemamba]

:lol stats dont always tell the story

[ohmwrecker]

All time greats don't quit on their team.

Unless they want to take a couple of years off to be a bad baseball player . . .

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol stats dont always tell the story

:lol ethered

[Michael Jordan.]

http://thewhistle.com/media/uploads/basketball/jordan_james_kobe_infographic.jpg

[Arnold Toht]

:lol at you guys looking at stats for the first 10 seasons

the reason Kobe's the GOAT is because of his longevity. he'll still be putting up 25/5/5 in his 20th season while MJ couldn't do shit by his 15th

:lol monkeyballer james will be putting up 15/8/5 by the time he reaches Kobe's mileage

[whitemamba]

:lol ethered

http://i.imgflip.com/2v44z.jpg

[Arnold Toht]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-BGoQ65zw

[usdane]

MJ's playoff games record without Pippen 1-11.

[ShowtimeFan]

Why must "Laker fans" even attempt to argue Kobe as GOAT? :bang With their similar styles, it's just too easy to see that MJ was a cut above whether you look at stats or just from having watched both play. Second greatest SG of all time is nothing to be sneezed at.

Sure, I get that Laker fans want their guy to be the best but why not argue for Magic or Kareem instead? At least there you have a contrast in styles, etc that creates a good case of debate.

[Clipper Nation]

Everyone would forget who Kirby was after game one of MJ's career, tbqh....

[baseline bum]

If Kobe came in at the same time as Jordan, would he be considered = Drexler or < Drexler?

[Leetonidas]

:lol stats dont always tell the story

But rings, Finals MVPs, regular season MVPs, and other accolades do, and MJ has Kobe beat in every possible way

[Leetonidas]

MJ's playoff games record without Pippen 1-11.

Kobe's playoff record without an All-Star big man:

Missed playoffs
Choked 3-1 series lead & quit on his teamPERIOD
Shat on in 5 games

[Leetonidas]

:lol at you guys looking at stats for the first 10 seasons

the reason Kobe's the GOAT is because of his longevity. he'll still be putting up 25/5/5 in his 20th season while MJ couldn't do shit by his 15th

:lol monkeyballer james will be putting up 15/8/5 by the time he reaches Kobe's mileage

It's like you don't realize that Jordan played in college while Kobe was drafted at 17, and MJ decided to play baseball for two years in his prime. lol retarded Kobe jizz moppers

[ambchang]

That's why Jerry West > Jordan and became the logo, he came before Jordan.

[spurraider21]

If Kobe came before Jordan, then the Blazers, Suns, Rockets would have won titles, the Jazz would have won 2, and the Lakers would have won in 91.

[DMC]

But rings, Finals MVPs, regular season MVPs, and other accolades do, and MJ has Kobe beat in every possible way

And Kobe is near the end of his career and the desperate reaching for accolades is pitiful. It's like the college team getting that one guy 140 or so points in one game through gimmicky play.

[2pac > Kobe]

when its all said and done my ni66a lebron will be the goat so this thread is gay