Obamacare critic Rick Perry seeks cash from law

[ElNono]

Obamacare critic Rick Perry seeks cash from law

Gov. Rick Perry wants to kill Obamacare dead, but Texas health officials are in talks with the Obama administration about accepting an estimated $100 million available through the health law to care for the elderly and disabled, POLITICO has learned.
Perry health aides are negotiating with the Obama administration on the terms of an optional Obamacare program that would allow Texas to claim stepped-up Medicaid funding for the care of people with disabilities.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/rick-perry-obamacare-95727.html

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I was wondering when the health care lobby would begin to get their way with Mr 'Business friendly.'

[CosmicCowboy]

He would be stupid not to.

I'm critical of the law but I am going to abuse the shit out of it.

Whats bad for the country can be good for me.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

CC living up to the Boomer legacy.

[elbamba]

Do Texans pay federal taxes?

[CosmicCowboy]

CC living up to the Boomer legacy.

If you are stupid enough to vote for liberal politicians and get them elected I am smart enough to take advantage of them.

[ElNono]

He would be stupid not to.

I'm critical of the law but I am going to abuse the shit out of it.

Whats bad for the country can be good for me.

So talk the talk, but don't walk the walk? I know you're not a politician campaigning on ideals, so I'm not going to put it on you.

But this is the reason the GOP needs to stop campaigning on non-negotiable ideals. When push come to shove, they don't give a shit about them. And big picture, it isn't winning them the elections that matter.

[CosmicCowboy]

So talk the talk, but don't walk the walk? I know you're not a politician campaigning on ideals, so I'm not going to put it on you.

But this is the reason the GOP needs to stop campaigning on non-negotiable ideals. When push come to shove, they don't give a shit about them. And big picture, it isn't winning them the elections that matter.

I don't think either party really gives a shit about me so that is why it is up to me to look out for me and my family.

[Th'Pusher]

Do Texans pay federal taxes?
They sure do. Which is exactly why Perry has an obligation to the citizens of Texas to opt in to the Medicaid expansion the law affords.

[elbamba]

They sure do. Which is exactly why Perry has an obligation to the citizens of Texas to opt in to the Medicaid expansion the law affords.

No disagreement here.

[ElNono]

I don't think either party really gives a shit about me so that is why it is up to me to look out for me and my family.

Sure, behind the smoke and mirrors, the dems are cut from the same cloth. What I don't get is why alienate voters by taking untenable positions they're ultimately willing to compromise on anyways.

[pgardn]

If you are stupid enough to vote for liberal politicians and get them elected I am smart enough to take advantage of them.

Me, myself and I...

No sense of community? Ever had a BBQ with the neighbors?

[admiralsnackbar]

They sure do. Which is exactly why Perry has an obligation to the citizens of Texas to opt in to the Medicaid expansion the law affords.

Chicken dinner.

[boutons_deux]

Republican Governors: Shhh, Don’t Call Our Obamacare Money Obamacare!


Perry is in good company among Republican governors, many of whom want billions of federal funds under the law’s Medicaid expansion, but don’t want to call it Obamacare.

One example is Arizona’s Jan Brewer, who used scorched-earth tactics (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/jan-brewer-to-gop-expand-medicaid-ill-veto) to compel the reluctant (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/brewer-scores-big-win-for-medicaid-expansion) Republicans who lead the state legislature to accept the eligibility expansion under Medicaid. After she won the fight, she insisted she was still against Obamacare and came up with her own name for what she had done.

“While I remain opposed to the Affordable Care Act, it has become increasingly clear to me that the status quo is not an option,” Brewer said (http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/morning_call/2013/06/brewer-earns-big-medicaid-win-but.html?page=all). Instead, the governor described the expansion as her own plan. “With my Medicaid Restoration Plan, we can continue providing cost-effective care to these individuals — Arizona’s working poor.”

Another example is Florida’s Rick Scott. He initially rejected the Medicaid expansion. But faced with pressure from hospitals, and an enticing offer to insure many of his uninsured residents on the federal government’s tab, Scott buckled and championed the Obamacare provision (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/-scott-medicaid-expansion-florida.php) back in February — only to be thwarted by his Republican-led legislature.

Then he returned to criticizing Obamacare, papering over the Medicaid component.

“The president’s health care law is a disaster. It’s going to be bad for patients, it’s going to be bad for businesses, it’s going to be bad for providers. There’s nobody that wins in that bill,” Scott told the local News Radio 1620 (http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/gubernatorial/gov-scott-calls-federal-health-law-a-disaster/2125122) in June.
Well, not nobody, he admitted, calling the Medicaid expansion a “compassionate, common sense step forward,” rather then a “white flag of surrender to government-run health care.”

The governors’ desire to gloss over this contradiction reveals the contrast between Obamacare’s fixture as a conservative bogeyman and the good that the law, flawed as it may be, stands to do for many Americans. The Medicaid expansion is a lucrative offer: states are permitted to enroll new residents up to 133 percent of the federal poverty line; Washington will cover the full cost of the new beneficiaries until 2017 and pay 90 percent thereafter.

Other Republican governors who backed the expansion, such as John Kasich of Ohio and Susana Martinez of New Mexico, downplayed its link to the Affordable Care Act when declaring their intentions. But governors like Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania and Mary Fallin of Oklahoma conspicuously stressed Obamacare when announcing they’d turn it down.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, one of just four Republican governors (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/08/the-gop-states-that-have-officially-adopted-obamacare.php) to have officially enacted legislation expanding Medicaid, was more forthcoming and didn’t deny that he was embracing a part of Obamacare, albeit reluctantly.

“Let me be clear, I am no fan of the Affordable Care Act,” he said in a budget speech to the legislature back in February, announcing his support for the expansion. “I think it is wrong for New Jersey and for America. I fought against it and believe, in the long run, it will not achieve what it promises. However, it is now the law of the land. I will make all my judgments as governor based on what is best for New Jerseyans.”

This week, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R), also an outspoken Obamacare critic, reportedly pulled his request (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/bobby-jindal-pulls-request-for-obamacare-cash) for funds under the law’s Community First Choice program, the same one Perry is considering for his state, complaining that the Obama administration was not willing to be flexible.

“You can’t rail against the Affordable Care Act at every opportunity and then clandestinely, selectively apply for different pieces of funding for it,” Moriba Karamoko, who runs the Louisiana Consumer Healthcare Coalition, told Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/bobby-jindal-withdraws-request-for-obamacare-funds-95773.html).

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/08/republican-governors-shhh-obamacare-medicaid.php

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Kentucky is geared up with their health exchanges. They are now informing residents of how to get access to health insurance. They market their Obamacare state exchange under the Kynect (http://kynect.ky.gov/) name. The following reported encounter with a Kentuckian (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/kentucky-obamacare_n_3801054.html) shows the dangers of being misinformed.


A middle-aged man in a red golf shirt shuffles up to a small folding table with gold trim, in a booth adorned with a flotilla of helium balloons, where government workers at the Kentucky State Fair are hawking the virtues of Kynect, the state’s health benefit exchange established by Obamacare.

The man is impressed. "This beats Obamacare I hope," he mutters to one of the workers.

“Do I burst his bubble?” wonders Reina Diaz-Dempsey, overseeing the operation. She doesn't. If he signs up, it's a win-win, whether he knows he's been ensnared by Obamacare or not.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/23/1233305/-Kentuckians-Hate-Obamacare-But-Love-It-By-Another-Name?detail=email

Rand Paul's KY! red-state ignorance, per par :lol

[spursncowboys]

Obamacare critic Rick Perry seeks cash from law

Gov. Rick Perry wants to kill Obamacare dead, but Texas health officials are in talks with the Obama administration about accepting an estimated $100 million available through the health law to care for the elderly and disabled, POLITICO has learned.
Perry health aides are negotiating with the Obama administration on the terms of an optional Obamacare program that would allow Texas to claim stepped-up Medicaid funding for the care of people with disabilities.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/rick-perry-obamacare-95727.html

and...

[ElNono]

and...

and what? :lol

[spursncowboys]

ElNono: What's your opinion on the article you posted?

[ElNono]

ElNono: What's your opinion on the article you posted?


So talk the talk, but don't walk the walk? I know you're not a politician campaigning on ideals, so I'm not going to put it on you.

But this is the reason the GOP needs to stop campaigning on non-negotiable ideals. When push come to shove, they don't give a shit about them. And big picture, it isn't winning them the elections that matter.

[spursncowboys]

But I didn't see a reply about Texans paying federal taxes.

[ElNono]

But I didn't see a reply about Texans paying federal taxes.

Perhaps because I never opined that they're not entitled to the money?

[spursncowboys]

ElNono: then what's your point? Your comment, I agree with but doesn't seem to go very well with the OP.

[ElNono]

What part doesn't go well with the OP? We just had Perry campaigning as a GOP candidate running exactly on that kind of stuff...

[boutons_deux]

But I didn't see a reply about Texans paying federal taxes.

Texas pays towars all the red-states that are mooching/taking Fed $$ more than they send.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/give-take-small-final.png

that explains the benefits, but not the taxes paid to the Feds.

taxes on personal income, earned and unearned, corporate income, mineral royalties, fuel, etc?

[baseline bum]

^ lol in boutons' map the title says it's plotting the ratio of taxes paid to benefits received when it's really the reciprocal of that being plotted.

So is TPM another thinkprogress lol?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you are stupid enough to vote for liberal politicians and get them elected I am smart enough to take advantage of them.

I haven't voted major party in a long long time so you have no point with you use of 'you.' That is a typical boomer rationalization. You think it's poor policy that is bad for the country as a whole but fuck it you are going to get yours. Hypocrisy comes very easy to your generation. It's a hallmark really.

[spursncowboys]

I haven't voted major party in a long long time so you have no point with you use of 'you.' That is a typical boomer rationalization. You think it's poor policy that is bad for the country as a whole but fuck it you are going to get yours. Hypocrisy comes very easy to your generation. It's a hallmark really.
Isn't that a basis for liberals attacking tea party members? Because they are voting against the pork and overspending that they would, in some cases, benefit from?

[Koolaid_Man]

If you are stupid enough to vote for liberal politicians and get them elected I am smart enough to take advantage of them.

No you're not...most of you backwoods people are poor and getting poorer...I see white guys staring me down when drive by in my 120k car...they be in old ragged out trucks probably thinking they'd like to lynch me...well guess what I welcome them to approach me...and we'll find out if we're actually living in the 1950's like they think...:lol

but you guys are so dumb Cosmic..yall vote against your interests all the time with false hopes of becoming republican like rich...here is a classic example:

Kb62fpsyhC4

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Isn't that a basis for liberals attacking tea party members? Because they are voting against the pork and overspending that they would, in some cases, benefit from?

I don't know. Is it?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No you're not...most of you backwoods people are poor and getting poorer...I see white guys staring me down when drive by in my 120k car...they be in old ragged out trucks probably thinking they'd like to lynch me...well guess what I welcome them to approach me...and we'll find out if we're actually living in the 1950's like they think...:lol

but you guys are so dumb Cosmic..yall vote against your interests all the time with false hopes of becoming republican like rich...here is a classic example:

Kb62fpsyhC4
CC is actually Republican rich tbh, howeva most Republicans are of the "When I invent somtin' n' git rich, i dont want da gubbamint redistribition mer wealth!" mold. They swallow up all the bullshit opportunity the ultra-rich make them think they have :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

CC is actually Republican rich tbh, howeva most Republicans are of the "When I invent somtin' n' git rich, i dont want da gubbamint redistribition mer wealth!" mold. They swallow up all the bullshit opportunity the ultra-rich make them think they have :lol

CC ain't got shit...I saw some of the interior of his house..carpet and table and if that's republican rich then I'll be damed :lol....

[That's Funked Up]

I'm against kicking children in the face. If someone gave me a million to kick a child in the face i'd by the little fucker a mouthpiece and get payed

[boutons_deux]

Isn't that a basis for liberals attacking tea party members? Because they are voting against the pork and overspending that they would, in some cases, benefit from?

pork? tea baggers LOVE pork that comes the them.

let us know when the tea bagger "marans" demonstrate/whine about $1.5T to maintain the planet safe for US corporations, or about the financial sector, and the 1% sucking wealth out of everybody. tea baggers are fucking frauds financed by the VRWC, and best they are dupes, shills for the VRWC

[CosmicCowboy]

No you're not...most of you backwoods people are poor and getting poorer...I see white guys staring me down when drive by in my 120k car...they be in old ragged out trucks probably thinking they'd like to lynch me...well guess what I welcome them to approach me...and we'll find out if we're actually living in the 1950's like they think...:lol

but you guys are so dumb Cosmic..yall vote against your interests all the time with false hopes of becoming republican like rich...here is a classic example:

Kb62fpsyhC4

:lmao @ Kools "$120,000" pimpmobile.

Probably rents his wheels and tires....:lol

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8186026550_94751ce54e_o.png

[spursncowboys]

pork? tea baggers LOVE pork that comes the them.

let us know when the tea bagger "marans" demonstrate/whine about $1.5T to maintain the planet safe for US corporations, or about the financial sector, and the 1% sucking wealth out of everybody. tea baggers are fucking frauds financed by the VRWC, and best they are dupes, shills for the VRWC
Have you ever met a tea party member? I don't mean those ass clown politicians, pretending to be one, on tv.

[boutons_deux]

Have you ever met a tea party member? I don't mean those ass clown politicians, pretending to be one, on tv.

who elects the clown tea bagger/libertarian politicians if not clown tea bagger/libertarian bubbas?

[Wild Cobra]

Texas pays towars all the red-states that are mooching/taking Fed $$ more than they send.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/give-take-small-final.png

that explains the benefits, but not the taxes paid to the Feds.

taxes on personal income, earned and unearned, corporate income, mineral royalties, fuel, etc?

Oh this bullshit again.

Red states have lower costs of living, hence lower wages. The federal government one-size-fita-all bullshit is the problem.

Don't you get it boutons? You Nanny and uncle are the problem.

[boutons_deux]

Oh this bullshit again.

Red states have lower costs of living, hence lower wages. The federal government one-size-fita-all bullshit is the problem.

Don't you get it boutons? You Nanny and uncle are the problem.

so if red states have lower cost of living, have "right to work (for less)", why can't they pay their own way rather than be "socialistically" subsidized by other (blue) states?

[boutons_deux]

Have you ever met a tea party member? I don't mean those ass clown politicians, pretending to be one, on tv.

Here's VRWC-financed tea bagger org leading "young" tea bagger assholes to burn fake obamacare cards

Young Tea Party ‘Rebels’ Burn Fake ‘Obamacare Cards’

FreedomWorks, a Tea Party don’t-think tank, is urging young adults to be rebels with a self-destructive cause. “Stick it to the man,” FreedomWorks urges young people. It tells them to do so by filming themselves burning homemade “Obamacare” cards (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/01/inside-the-obamacare-resistance/) and “Vining” the video explaining why they are Obamacare refuseniks as flames lick their fingertips.

“Conservative” champion Stephen Colbert counsels these mutineers (http://www.hulu.com/watch/516222) to be careful not to scorch their hands because, you know, they don’t have health insurance.

Alternatively, young people could buy subsidized health insurance on the new exchanges with the help of “navigators” that Obamacare funded last week and then torch as much homemade rubbish as they choose, secure in the knowledge that if they’re injured in the process, they can afford to see a doctor.

http://www.alternet.org/speakeasy/leowgerard/crazy-young-tea-party-rebels-burn-fake-obamacare-cards?akid=10851.187590.oR9lGd&rd=1&src=newsletter887898&t=17

let me return your question: Have you ever met a tea bagger who isn't an ass clown, fogged in by libertarian, Randian bullshit?

[TeyshaBlue]

Texas pays towars all the red-states that are mooching/taking Fed $$ more than they send.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/give-take-small-final.png

that explains the benefits, but not the taxes paid to the Feds.

taxes on personal income, earned and unearned, corporate income, mineral royalties, fuel, etc?

Well, let's destroy this piece of shit "analysis" again.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192004

And let's all stare in wonder as bouton's ignores this again and posts this idiotic map next week.http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

[boutons_deux]

Texas Widens Gap Over Other States in Percentage Uninsured

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http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/dxwaopprluslc_ikkmjxkw.gif


http://www.gallup.com/poll/153053/Texas-Widens-Gap-States-Percentage-Uninsured.aspx

So while a blue state like CA with high uninsured is working with ACA to reduce that number the retrograde Repug states are rejecting ACA to keep their residents uninsured.

[boutons_deux]

Rick Perry Business Ad Rejected By Missouri Radio Station

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) is being told "don't mess with Missouri" as he tries to lure the Show Me State's businesses to Texas.

KTRS Radio in St. Louis announced Friday (http://www.ktrs.com/news/around-town/item/10646-ktrs-rejects-gov-rick-perrys-commercial) that it would not air a commercial starring Perry aimed at telling businesses to leave Missouri for Texas. The ad is part of a nine-day advertising campaign (http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2013/08/texas-gov-rick-perry-targets-missouri-in-latest-corporate-recruiting-campaign.html/)Perry is running in Missouri preceding his job recruitment trip to the state next week.

Mark Dorsey, the station's general manager, posted on the KTRS website that the station at first thought the ad was just promoting Texas tourism. Dorsey wrote: (http://www.ktrs.com/news/around-town/item/10646-ktrs-rejects-gov-rick-perrys-commercial)


It has come to the attention of KTRS management that a commercial running on KTRS Radio, voiced by Texas Governor Rick Perry, is asking Missouri business to move to Texas. When the order was placed, KTRS was under the assumption these commercials were going to promote tourism to Texas. Once we, the Management of KTRS realized these commercials were instead focused on stealing locally owned companies away from St Louis, we suspended airing these commercials immediately. We understand people have different viewpoints on public policy and we welcome that debate everyday on our airways. But as one of the few remaining locally owned radio stations in the country, we feel the need to stand strong with other small locally owned business and defend our region. Governor Rick Perry, Don't Mess with Missouri, and don't mess with St Louis.

A Perry spokesman could not be reached for immediate comment.

On Thursday, Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander (D) wrote to Perry (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/22/jason-kander-rick-perry_n_3795404.html)telling him to stay away from Missouri businesses. In his letter, Kander told Perry that it would be smarter for Texas officials to encourage Lone Star State residents to create their own businesses, which have a better chance of staying in Texas long term.

Former Missouri state Sen. Jeff Smith (D-St. Louis), now a political science professor at the New School in New York, praised the move as both a business and state-pride decision.

"That's interesting, and rather patriotic," Smith told The Huffington Post. "Of course, [KTRS is] a business making business decisions, and I bet it pays off in positive press and advertiser loyalty."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/23/rick-perry-missouri_n_3806014.html

Perry trying to rustle companies from another deep red state. :lol

[boutons_deux]

“While Governor Perry is here, he might want to go shopping as

Missouri’s sales tax rate is a full two percentage points lower than Texas,” he said.

“We also have a competitive corporate tax structure,

lower property taxes, and

higher student test scores.”

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/08/22/texas-gov-perry-hopes-to-lure-missouri-businesses/

:lol

RickyBobby, a Wild West snake oil saleman. :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

"Missouri's sales tax rate is a full two percentage points lower than Texas."

Missouri has a state income tax a full 6% higher than Texas (since Tx doesn't have a state income tax). He forgot to say that.

They also have property taxes that are lower than Tx which stands to reason since they have a state income tax.

The overall tax burden is 1.1% higher in MO than Texas.

http://best-state-taxes.247wallst.com/

[boutons_deux]

Oh this bullshit again.

Red states have lower costs of living, hence lower wages. The federal government one-size-fita-all bullshit is the problem.

Don't you get it boutons? You Nanny and uncle are the problem.

so if red states have lower cost of living, have "right to work (for less)", why can't they pay their own way rather than be "socialistically" subsidized by other (blue) states?

[TeyshaBlue]

smh....already been answered. But you continue to ignore the answer because it doesn't fit your narrative.

[boutons_deux]

In Dramatic Reversal, Michigan Senate Passes Obamacare’s Medicaid Expansion

The Michigan Senate voted Tuesday to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, extending health coverage to more than 400,000 low-income residents, but not without a little legislative drama first.

The GOP-controlled chamber approved the bill by a 20-18 vote at about 8 p.m. Tuesday after being in session for more than eight hours, much of it spent in caucus debating how to get the expansion passed. Eight Republicans finally joined 12 Democrats to pass the bill.

The House, which had already passed an expansion bill, will soon take a concurring vote, and Gov. Rick Snyder’s office confirmed to TPM that the governor would sign the legislation when it reaches his desk.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/08/michigan-approves-obamacares-medicaid-expansion.php

:lol This being one of the nastiest Repug states, I'm sure the Medicaid Expansion wasn't for humanitarian reasons (probably most of the 400K are black, not backwoods Michigan gun fellators), but strictly Repugs whoring for the Fed money.