I'm coming to Texas from Australia in April 2014... 4 games in 6 nights! Advice?

[hsxvvd]

I'm making my pilgrimage to San Antonio.... I've been a fan for over 21 years and this will be my first live game.

I'm flying from Melbourne, Australia to Dallas on the 9th April and hoping to attend the following games

San Antonio @ Dallas on the 10th April

Phoenix @ San Antonio on the 11th April

New Orleadns @ Houston on the 12th April

San Antonio @ Houston on 14th April

and will be flying home from Houston to Melbourne on the 15th April.

6 night, 4 games, 3 Spurs games.


Advice on where I am best to get my tickets?

Advice on where to stay?

I plan on renting a car and getting around by car, would you suggest driving to the games or public transport?

Not leaving much time for sight seeing, but are there any must-see sights or experiences?

Many thanks in advance for any advice Spurstalkers.

[J.T.]

Eat at Whataburger enough times to try everything on the menu.

If you leave Texas without going to Whataburger once, you have not only failed as a tourist, you have failed as a human being.

While you're in Dallas, check out the Dealey Plaza historic district. That's the place Kennedy got shot, probably the thing Dallas is most famous for so you can do that, watch the Spurs win, leave town and you're done with Dallas. Yay!

On the way to San Antonio, stop in Austin and I can give you a detailed list of locations used in the film "Dazed and Confused." If not just keep on driving. Austin's a cool place but the people here think Austin is like a super bad ass city but that's just because it leans to the left while the rest of the state leans to the right, and everyone here has a dog, likes music and smokes weed. People think this is unique to Austin. It isn't.

I grew up in San Antonio and constantly tell people who ask me if I liked it there that I didn't because the only thing to do is go to Spurs games. Maybe it's changed in eight years. I've gone back on business a few times and the north side has blown the fuck up with new neighborhoods and strip malls but that's about it. Go to the Alamo if you're feeling particularly touristy. Bottom line is you're in town for the Spurs. Get lower level seats. Arrive early. Watch them warm-up. Pretty much everyone but that faggot Duncan will sign autographs. Take in the AT&T Center. That's what you're here for. Don't get distracted by wack ass San Antonio.

[Two10Whitey]

Find some breakfast tacos in the morning, try Whataburger for lunch, eat at Rudy's for dinner. Go to the Alamo, get tipsy on the riverwalk and ignore the homeless people. Welcome to SA.

[The Reckoning]

we drive on the right side, so you get in the drivers seat from the left. if you're keen for driving on the right side in a busy city then you should drive. the public transport is total shit.

if you have kids then six flags fiesta texas is a must

when you go to whataburger, have your fries (chips) with "ketchup" not tomato sauce.

our cars have "trunks" not boots

everyone is obese and all claim it's a genetic problem.

try out a shiner bock while you're there. you have your shiner in a "koozie" not a stubby holder

eat as much mexican food as you possibly can. we call capsicum "bell peppers"

we ask where the restroom is, not the toilet.

it's aluminum, not aluminium

the only pies we have are desert pies

above all, we tip 10% for most service (waiters, taxi drivers, etc.) except fast food workers


you'll be an instant celebrity tbh. prepare for everyone to compare you with paul hogan, steve irwin and men at work.

[alamo50]

Mate, why not planned on going 2 weeks later?!?!
Now you will be seeing the big 3 on the bench resting for the upcoming playoffs!

[TXstbobcat]

Sounds like a fun trip. I recommend hitting county line for some barbecue. In Dallas, I recommend chicken fried steak at black eyed pea. In Austin, I recommend a Mexican place called Hula Hut.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Sounds like a fun trip. I recommend hitting county line for some barbecue. In Dallas, I recommend chicken fried steak at black eyed pea. In Austin, I recommend a Mexican place called Hula Hut.

You've got to be kidding with those 3 recommendations homie..

[philldafunk]

While in Dallas hit up Rudy's Chicken, Austin check out Juan in a Million, SA try Chester's.

[RudyRay]

Do not take public transportation! In SA try La Gloria or Rosario's (good food and drinks) which are both around downtown.

[Axegrinder]

Schlotskys in SA or Austin, Hut's in Austin, and just flee from Dallas asap

[hooperflash]

Hard Rick .

[Phenomanul]

Hard Rick .

:lol

[Humberto]

You've got to be kidding with those 3 recommendations homie..

:lmao

[spursfan1000]

He's asking for sites to see not places to eat, lol fat texans

[kemak]

I would try Whataburger once, realize it aint shit and then move on if I were you. It's late night drunk fast food.

The only must see thing in San Antonio is the Spurs! I guess you could go to our iconic tower just to say you've been http://www.toweroftheamericas.com/ it's a bit overpriced though.

If you feel like watching a movie try out Alamo Drafthouse, they serve you beer/drinks during the movie. http://drafthouse.com/

Also we generally tip 20% not 10%.

I hope you have fun when you visit!

[jon123spurs]

Hard Rick lmfao!!!

[stnick2261]

I would try Whataburger once, realize it aint shit and then move on if I were you. It's late night drunk fast food.

The only must see thing in San Antonio is the Spurs! I guess you could go to our iconic tower just to say you've been http://www.toweroftheamericas.com/ it's a bit overpriced though.

If you feel like watching a movie try out Alamo Drafthouse, they serve you beer/drinks during the movie. http://drafthouse.com/

Also we generally tip 20% not 10%.

I hope you have fun when you visit!

This is probably the best advice so far.


above all, we tip 10% for most service (waiters, taxi drivers, etc.) except fast food workers.

Anyone who has worked in the food industry knows 10% sucks. Start with 15% and add more for good service. Waiter's are usually paid $2/hr plus their tips (which they have to pay taxes on).

[The Reckoning]

15% it is. people say they tip that but in my experience in the food industry they rarely do tbh.


http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Travel-g191-s606/United-States:Tipping.And.Etiquette.html

[baseline bum]

Whataburger is just run of the mill fast food, so no reason to go there. And Rudy's is just shitty BBQ. If you want really good BBQ stop by Lockhart on the way from Dallas to San Antonio to try Smitty's for the brisket, or if it's Sunday, Blacks' (can't remember if Smitty's is closed on Sunday or not). Then on your drive between San Antonio and Houston get off on highway 183 to go to Luling to grab lunch at City Market (closed Sundays). Spectacular sausage and good brisket and ribs. The sides are crap.

LOL the complaint about the sights in San Antonio. There's nothing to see here other than the skanky ass river.

[bus driver]

He's asking for sites to see not places to eat, lol fat texans

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[RD2191]

Make sure you hit up Bill Millers for the best BBQ in Texas. :lmao

[philldafunk]

Tower of the Americas is free if you just go to the bar/restaurant level.

[hsxvvd]

He's asking for sites to see not places to eat, lol fat texans

I was going to ask about food, but I presumed I'd get plenty of suggestions about food.... Food is a huge part of Travel wherever you go.

The Whataburger suggestions is definately something I was planning on visiting... based solely on the number of references to it on Spurstalk.

[hsxvvd]

Whataburger is just run of the mill fast food, so no reason to go there. And Rudy's is just shitty BBQ. If you want really good BBQ stop by Lockhart on the way from Dallas to San Antonio to try Smitty's for the brisket, or if it's Sunday, Blacks' (can't remember if Smitty's is closed on Sunday or not). Then on your drive between San Antonio and Houston get off on highway 183 to go to Luling to grab lunch at City Market (closed Sundays). Spectacular sausage and good brisket and ribs. The sides are crap.

LOL the complaint about the sights in San Antonio. There's nothing to see here other than the skanky ass river.

Smitty's has been added to the list... it's my nickname, so how could I not go there for the obligatory selfy in front of the sign! If the food is good... Bonus!

[superbigtime]

Whataburger is just run of the mill fast food, so no reason to go there. And Rudy's is just shitty BBQ. If you want really good BBQ stop by Lockhart on the way from Dallas to San Antonio to try Smitty's for the brisket, or if it's Sunday, Blacks' (can't remember if Smitty's is closed on Sunday or not). Then on your drive between San Antonio and Houston get off on highway 183 to go to Luling to grab lunch at City Market (closed Sundays). Spectacular sausage and good brisket and ribs. The sides are crap.

Thank you. Rudy's is nothing special. The chicken is pretty good but it's hard to screw up chicken, and the brisket and ribs are just ordinary. Best BBQ i've had in texas is Mueller's BBQ in Taylor, Texas. Stevie Ray Vaughan actually made a video there; they are quite proud of that.

Anyway the guy asked where to go not what to eat lol.

[hsxvvd]

First Tickets purchased.... Phoenix @ San Antonio.... Lower Plaza Prime 121? Was the best within my budget by the looks of it.

[baseline bum]

Thank you. Rudy's is nothing special. The chicken is pretty good but it's hard to screw up chicken, and the brisket and ribs are just ordinary. Best BBQ i've had in texas is Mueller's BBQ in Taylor, Texas. Stevie Ray Vaughan actually made a video there; they are quite proud of that.

Anyway the guy asked where to go not what to eat lol.

There's no real must-see sites in San Antonio, especially with only one night after a drive in from Dallas and likely wanting to relax to have some energy for the game later on. In the Houston I'd say NASA is a must-see. It's worth going just to see the Saturn V rocket.

I wouldn't even call Rudy's brisket ordinary though; it's really awful.

[baseline bum]

Forgot to mention if you want a place to eat after the game in San Antonio you can go downtown and hit up Mi Tierra (it's open 24/7). Back when the Spurs used to play at Hemisfair Arena you'd often see opposing teams eating there after the games, but I have no idea about now (perhaps if they stay downtown?).

[starboy]

I was going to ask about food, but I presumed I'd get plenty of suggestions about food.... Food is a huge part of Travel wherever you go.

The Whataburger suggestions is definately something I was planning on visiting... based solely on the number of references to it on Spurstalk.

Regarding Austin:

Food I'd recommend(ranked in order of importance/rareness/goodness):

Salt Lick BBQ - http://www.saltlickbbq.com/ It's a must!
Juan in a Million - Try the Don Juan...seriously, I'm not joking here. http://www.juaninamillion.com/ Also a must!!
Uchi - http://www.uchiaustin.com/ This place is fucking EXPENSIVE fyi, but godamn best sushi ever.
Rudy's BBQ - http://www.rudysbbq.com/page/home Only if you can't hit up salt lick.
Hopdoddy's burger bar - http://www.hopdoddy.com/
Home Slice Pizza - http://www.homeslicepizza.com/

If there is only one thing you listen to from my post I hope it's this: Since you'll have a car and you're coming from Dallas, I HIGHLY recommend you drive on Capital of Texas Highway/360 to get through Austin instead of Interstate-35. Either that road or FM 2222 for the sites(or both). You'll catch some BEAUTIFUL hill country scenery, including the "lake", you'd miss if you took I-35 to get through Austin.

Honestly, there aren't many "tourist attractions" in Austin per say. Theme Parks, Aquariums, Pro Teams etc etc are located in Dal/Hou/SA.
The best thing to do to get a feel for Austin's culture is head to South Congress(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Congress) wearing shorts and flip flops, and just walk the street. Sample as many food trucks, local restaurants, and street vendors as possible while at the same time shopping at the local stores. When you're done take a pedal cab to 6th street(http://www.6street.com) and have some brews and more food! Try to make it out to Rainey Street(http://www.raineystbars.com/) which is an old neighborhood downtown(A few blocks away from 6th street) where the houses have been converted to bars and pubs. It's EXTREMELY chill and laid back and you'll get a great feel for the culture Austin is known for.

Other things you might want to take a look at if you have time is:
Barton Springs Pool (http://austintexas.gov/department/barton-springs-pool)
Zilker Park (http://austintexas.gov/department/zilker-metropolitan-park)
Texas State Capital (http://www.tspb.state.tx.us/SPB/capitol/texcap.htm)
Bob Bullock Museum (http://www.thestoryoftexas.com/)
Mount Bonnell (http://www.austinparks.org/our-parks.html?parkid=287)

Hope this helps. Austin is a beautiful city and I hope you enjoy your brief visit here!!!

[J.T.]

The people hating on Whataburger in this thread are probably too poor to go there consistently so have reduced their fast food consumption to McGangbangs and Five Dollar Footlongs.

[baseline bum]

I don't get the Whataburger hype at all. Maybe calling them run of the mill was too far; it's an above average fast food place IMO. E.g., better than McDonalds, Wendy's, Sonic, or Burger King, and more in that Carl's Jr/Jack in the Crack range; way below In N Out. Their burgers are alright but the shakes are total crap.

[Skull-1]

Laredo Taco Company for breakfast. Whataburger for lunch. Mamacita's for dinner.


See the Alamo, but hit the Mission Trail and see the others. They are all in much better shape.

Head out to the Hill Country and see the Nimitz Museum in Fredricksburg.....walk the downtown & window shop (hit The Christmas Store and watch them make candles--totally cool), then visit Enchanted Rock.

[Skull-1]

I don't get the Whataburger hype at all. Maybe calling them run of the mill was too far; it's an above average fast food place IMO. E.g., better than McDonalds, Wendy's, Sonic, or Burger King, and more in that Carl's Jr/Jack in the Crack range; way below In N Out. Their burgers are alright but the shakes are total crap.

In N Out sucks.


They taste the same going in as they do coming out.


To the OP, Whataburger onion rings. Nuff said right there.


WB isn't what it was when I was a kid, but they are still the BEST fast food burger joint on the planet. In N Out can't compete.

[Skull-1]

The people hating on Whataburger in this thread are probably too poor to go there consistently so have reduced their fast food consumption to McGangbangs and Five Dollar Footlongs.

[hsxvvd]

Thanks for all the tips coming in. Looks like I'll be needing baggy pants and a couple seats in the plane for the return flight!

I got my tickets for the San Antonio @ Houston game Baseline Riser 126 Row F near the away bench.


http://www.seats3d.com/nba/houston_rockets/

I'm happy with these seats to finish my trip.

Got my tickets for the Spurs @ Dallas game too, but it's up in the nose bleeds Upper Level Center Row F, but saving a little on these allowed me to spend a little more on the others.

Any tips for accommodation in Dallas, San Antonio or Houston? Central enough and with parking?

[spurraider21]

I don't get the Whataburger hype at all. Maybe calling them run of the mill was too far; it's an above average fast food place IMO. E.g., better than McDonalds, Wendy's, Sonic, or Burger King, and more in that Carl's Jr/Jack in the Crack range; way below In N Out. Their burgers are alright but the shakes are total crap.
Church of In n Out must only be a Cali thing :depressed

[Skull-1]

Thanks for all the tips coming in. Looks like I'll be needing baggy pants and a couple seats in the plane for the return flight!

I got my tickets for the San Antonio @ Houston game Baseline Riser 126 Row F near the away bench.


http://www.seats3d.com/nba/houston_rockets/

I'm happy with these seats to finish my trip.

Got my tickets for the Spurs @ Dallas game too, but it's up in the nose bleeds Upper Level Center Row F, but saving a little on these allowed me to spend a little more on the others.

Any tips for accommodation in Dallas, San Antonio or Houston? Central enough and with parking?


trynthe Hilton Garden Inn in Addison for Dallas. Cavenaugh Flight Museum is right up the road....great sports bar two blocks away. You can walk home after you get wrecked at the piano bar and there's a Smashburger right there....


SA.... You wanting Riverwalk or what? I am quickly becoming a Marriott fan. They are fixing them all up. Anything from a Courtyard and higher is excellent. Embassy Suites Airport isn't bad either. Free drinks from 5-7pm. :)

[SpurSpurSpurs]

Before the wheels fall off, I wish I could do the same trip. :depressed

[alamo50]

There's no real must-see sites in San Antonio.

Are you fucking kidding me?

[baseline bum]

Are you fucking kidding me?

OK, forgot about All Stars.

[J.T.]

Church of In n Out must only be a Cali thing :depressed

In N Out opening two locations in Austin by 2014 iirc

[spurs10]

Laredo Taco Company for breakfast. Whataburger for lunch. Mamacita's for dinner.


See the Alamo, but hit the Mission Trail and see the others. They are all in much better shape.

Head out to the Hill Country and see the Nimitz Museum in Fredricksburg.....walk the downtown & window shop (hit The Christmas Store and watch them make candles--totally cool), then visit Enchanted Rock.Alamo, all the missions, Nimitz Museum, and Enchanted Rock are all great recommendations. If you aren't visiting the hill country, the Witte Museum in San Antonio is a always a good visit. As for dining in San Antonio, I don't know Mamacitas, but I think Rosarios is excellent, and not far from the Alamo. Mi Tierra's is a good bet for the quintessential San Antonio experience though. All the surrounding shops are very great places for souvenirs. Lodging wise the Marriot is probably great. I love the Gunter Hotel in downtown SA. It's pretty surprising how much less the difference in cost of an excellent hotel and a sub-par one are these days. Try the Marriot, the Hilton, The Hyatt, the Omni, etc. before you settle for a dive. You're coming a long way!!

[romain.star]

Based on this thread, Texas seems to be one giant Hamburger...

[spurs10]

Based on this thread, Texas seems to be one giant Hamburger... Everything is bigger in Texas!! Seems we've started a new church. CoW...pun intended!

[baseline bum]

Alamo, all the missions, Nimitz Museum, and Enchanted Rock are all great recommendations. If you aren't visiting the hill country, the Witte Museum in San Antonio is a always a good visit. As for dining in San Antonio, I don't know Mamacitas, but I think Rosarios is excellent, and not far from the Alamo. Mi Tierra's is a good bet for the quintessential San Antonio experience though. All the surrounding shops are very great places for souvenirs. Lodging wise the Marriot is probably great. I love the Gunter Hotel in downtown SA. It's pretty surprising how much less the difference in cost of an excellent hotel and a sub-par one are these days. Try the Marriot, the Hilton, The Hyatt, the Omni, etc. before you settle for a dive. You're coming a long way!!

I would have recommended cool shit like Enchanted Rock or Lost Maples, but dude is coming to San Antonio after a 4.5 hour drive from Dallas, watching a 7:30PM Spurs game, and then driving to Houston the next day. If I'm flying in from Australia I'm getting to the game early enough to get an autograph from Manu, so probably leaving the hotel no later than 6PM. Not a lot of time to see the coolest shit in the SA area, which is all at least an hour outside town.

Mi Tierra is worth visiting just for the bakery, but the fajitas are pretty good too. Definitely the place I'd go eat after the game instead of getting some crap fast food or overpriced arena food.

[spurs10]

I would have recommended cool shit like Enchanted Rock or Lost Maples, but dude is coming to San Antonio after a 4.5 hour drive from Dallas, watching a 7:30PM Spurs game, and then driving to Houston the next day. If I'm flying in from Australia I'm getting to the game early enough to get an autograph from Manu, so probably leaving the hotel no later than 6PM. Not a lot of time to see the coolest shit in the SA area, which is all at least an hour outside town.

Mi Tierra is worth visiting just for the bakery, but the fajitas are pretty good too. Definitely the place I'd go eat after the game instead of getting some crap fast food or overpriced arena food.:tu Yeah, Mi Tierra's before or after the game is a good idea.

[Lincolnkreifels]

haha whataburger really everyone? you think he came to america to eat the fast food that makes everyone fat? you think he wants to ingest a bunch of cheap ass beef filled with bovine growth hormones that give you man boobs? i don't think so...
here is my advice:
1. get your tickets at stub hub or craigslist
2. for places to stay, download the app "hotel tonight". its ONLY for finding hotels on the night of and they put up the prices at noon everyday. You will score rooms for half the price and if you use my promo code "LCREFELTS" you'll get an additional 25 dollars off and they'll give me 25 dollars! so please do that... i promise you won't regret it. I play in a band and we use Hotel Tonight in almost every city.
3. Yep, drive your car.
4. San Antonio, The Cove is an awesome restaurant with a great beer selection, food, and atmosphere.. someone also mentioned The Alamo Drafthouses which I would recommend as well for sure and the river walk is always there as well. In Dallas, idk if you'll have time but I would go play TOP GOLF.. its a little pricey but a lot of fun even if you're not a golfer.. You compete with whoever you're with by hitting balls onto a giant interactive driving range with targets while a computer keeps your score.. awesome invention. idk about Houston. Have fun bro!

[hsxvvd]

Yeah... I'm starting to think I should skip the New Orleans @ Houston game and spend another night in San Antonio, after all... this is the Mecca of the pilgrimage.

Also seems like the car is going to be the best bet to get around. What's parking like at the AT&T? Do I need to pre-purchase or will it be available on the night? Likewise in Dallas and Houston if anybody knows?

[hsxvvd]

haha whataburger really everyone? you think he came to america to eat the fast food that makes everyone fat? you think he wants to ingest a bunch of cheap ass beef filled with bovine growth hormones that give you man boobs? i don't think so...
here is my advice:
1. get your tickets at stub hub or craigslist
2. for places to stay, download the app "hotel tonight". its ONLY for finding hotels on the night of and they put up the prices at noon everyday. You will score rooms for half the price and if you use my promo code "LCREFELTS" you'll get an additional 25 dollars off and they'll give me 25 dollars! so please do that... i promise you won't regret it. I play in a band and we use Hotel Tonight in almost every city.
3. Yep, drive your car.
4. San Antonio, The Cove is an awesome restaurant with a great beer selection, food, and atmosphere.. someone also mentioned The Alamo Drafthouses which I would recommend as well for sure and the river walk is always there as well. In Dallas, idk if you'll have time but I would go play TOP GOLF.. its a little pricey but a lot of fun even if you're not a golfer.. You compete with whoever you're with by hitting balls onto a giant interactive driving range with targets while a computer keeps your score.. awesome invention. idk about Houston. Have fun bro!

I've used Stub Hub for the tickets purchased so far, the estimated delivery on the Dallas and Houston game is ok. But the estimated delivery on the San Antonio game is the day before I fly out... it's an electronic delivery, so if it comes in late... I'll hopefully be able to print it at the hotel... otherwise, I'll be hitting up someone in here to visit to print it out before the game! Do they tend to arrive on the estimate day? earlier? Hoping to not be chasing around a computer and printer on the day of the game is all.

The Hotel Tonight, sounds great. But I'm too much of a pussy to wait until the last day to have accommodation booked in a foreign country. I like to have it all booked (and paid)before I leave.

[Biernutz]

You need to plan on coming to San Antonio for the Lakers game on April 16. This is one of the
best times to time to San Antonio. IT'S FIESTA TIME ...............Fiesta starts on April 10-27.
It's a nonstop party time and you need to spend a few days here......NIOSA (Night in old San Antonio)
is four days of music and food from all over the world and is a must go. There are parades and party's
all over town. Eat,drink and party!!!!!!!!!.......... Include this time in your schedule...Ask Patty about it......

[Lincolnkreifels]

Yeah, honestly, if you skip out on Houston, I'd spend a night in Austin.. as it is flooded with great places to eat and is considered the live music capital of the world. However, its about an hour and fifteen north of san antonio so that adds an extra 2 and 1/2 hours round trip... just about everyones fav city in Texas is austin so kinda would suck to miss out but the drive may not be worth it to you.

I think you'll have a much easier and less stressful time if you pre purchase parking. It's always been a much more pleasant experience for me when I know that I have a place to park in one of the AT&T centers lots.

haha, I understand about Hotel Tonight, all good!

Since stub hub is an open marketplace, reliability is inconsistent depending on the seller but I've honestly never had any problems and I've always received my tickets on the estimated day so you should be good.

also watch out for 5 o'clock traffic!

[hsxvvd]

You need to plan on coming to San Antonio for the Lakers game on April 16. This is one of the
best times to time to San Antonio. IT'S FIESTA TIME ...............Fiesta starts on April 10-27.
It's a nonstop party time and you need to spend a few days here......NIOSA (Night in old San Antonio)
is four days of music and food from all over the world and is a must go. There are parades and party's
all over town. Eat,drink and party!!!!!!!!!.......... Include this time in your schedule...Ask Patty about it......

I have two little boys and I need to get home in time to play the Easter Bunny. Also, my cousin did that trip the year before last... to see the Spurs in LA and it was the game Pop decided to play the bench. Turns out it was a close game and a good one to watch, but he missed out on seeing Timmy, Manu and Tony play.

Sounds like I'll still be there for Fiesta Time on the 10th/11th. It seems like there are more and more reasons to stay in San Antonio and blow off the NO v HOU game.

[Skull-1]

Just park across the street. Five bucks. The walk up to the Center is pretty cool...

[baseline bum]

Yeah... I'm starting to think I should skip the New Orleans @ Houston game and spend another night in San Antonio, after all... this is the Mecca of the pilgrimage.

Also seems like the car is going to be the best bet to get around. What's parking like at the AT&T? Do I need to pre-purchase or will it be available on the night? Likewise in Dallas and Houston if anybody knows?

With a full day in SA I would definitely recommend going up to Enchanted Rock or Lost Maples if you like the outdoors. Those are probably the two best hiking areas around San Antonio. Nothing difficult at all since our terrain is pretty flat, but they're nice areas and it won't be too hot yet in April. Plus the Hill Country has by far the prettiest driving in the San Antonio area.

[Libri]

Here's a link about visiting San Antonio.

http://visitsanantonio.com/

[Biernutz]

NIOSA dates have not been posted yet. They will probably be in the 2nd week of Fiesta.

[xmas1997]

Whataburger is ok, better than the other burger chains, but if you truly want a fantastic burger or a great bean burger then Chris Madrids puts Chester's to shame, it is consistently mentioned in the Texas Monthly magazine as one of the best in the state.
Hard to beat La Cazadora on West Ave. for cheap excellent standard Mexican food.
And the Big Easy on Walzem Rd. has some of the best Cajun food in the whole south USA, even better than New Orleans, the owner was chased here from there by hurricane Katrina because her mom lived here, our gain, their loss.

[Assman]

Holy shit there is a lot of bad advice in here.

1. Starting in Dallas, get a hotel in Uptown. It's near the AAC and some good bars and restaurants, however it's not close to the airport.
2. On your drive from Dallas to SA, stop in the town of West at the Czech Stop for Kolaches.
3. I grew up in SA but have lived in several different cities in Texas so I can say with confidence that SA is a boring city. Sure, the Riverwalk can be fun if you've never been there, but I wouldn't spend more than 24 hours in SA total. After the game, go downtown to experience the Riverwalk, then gtfo the next day and spend as much time as you can in Austin. Don't even bother going to 2 games in Houston.
4. Don't waste your time at Whataburger unless it's 3am and you're 18 beers into the night. There are much better places in SA to get a burger during normal hours. I recommend Lord's Kitchen, Chris Madrid's, or Bobby J's.
5. Since you'll now be going from Austin to Houston, head down 183 to Luling and grab some brisket from City Market. It's my favorite in the state, but there are also some great spots in Lockhart (Smitty's, Kreuz, and Black's). You really can't go wrong with any of them. Next, head down to Shiner and take a tour at the Spoetzl Brewery. You get tokens for free beer at the end.
6. Take your time on your drive and experience the great scenery.

Edit to add some Austin advice.

Grab a hotel in downtown as close to 6th and Trinity as possible. There's an Omni and a Hilton near by. This is kind of the epicenter of all of the bars and restaurants. Some of my favorite places to eat downtown are in the area south of 4th, north of Cesar Chavez, east of San Jacinto, and west of Trinity. I recommend the Vince Young steakhouse if you want one of the best steaks you've ever had. You can also pay homage to one of the greatest college football quarterbacks of all time. After you eat, head north to 6th and you'll find one of the best nightlife scenes in the country. Once you're here, you'll realize why the SA locals don't party at the Riverwalk. Good luck, we're all counting on you.

[J.T.]

Also seems like the car is going to be the best bet to get around. What's parking like at the AT&T? Do I need to pre-purchase or will it be available on the night? Likewise in Dallas and Houston if anybody knows?

Definitely no reason to buy a parking pass beforehand. I always park in the lots furthest from the AT&T center because they are the cheapest. Like $8.00 I think. Even considering you have to walk back there, always seems like I get out of the parking lot in around 15 minutes. They have their shit down directing traffic out of that place.

[spursnatic]

Yeah... I'm starting to think I should skip the New Orleans @ Houston game and spend another night in San Antonio, after all... this is the Mecca of the pilgrimage.

Also seems like the car is going to be the best bet to get around. What's parking like at the AT&T? Do I need to pre-purchase or will it be available on the night? Likewise in Dallas and Houston if anybody knows?

Dallas you will need to get there a bit early..The Stadium is in a horrible spot due to the traffic..And parking lot is small, so if you get there too late you will have to park all the way at the back..Get ready too if you are Rockin a SPURS Jersey, the fans are super hostile there..Never stopped me though...Also if you are bringing Kids you can go super early and take the Kids to the Dallas Aquarium just a few blocks up the road...

[spurs10]

Holy shit there is a lot of bad advice in here.

1. Starting in Dallas, get a hotel in Uptown. It's near the AAC and some good bars and restaurants, however it's not close to the airport.
2. On your drive from Dallas to SA, stop in the town of West at the Czech Stop for Kolaches.
3. I grew up in SA but have lived in several different cities in Texas so I can say with confidence that SA is a boring city. Sure, the Riverwalk can be fun if you've never been there, but I wouldn't spend more than 24 hours in SA total. After the game, go downtown to experience the Riverwalk, then gtfo the next day and spend as much time as you can in Austin. Don't even bother going to 2 games in Houston.
4. Don't waste your time at Whataburger unless it's 3am and you're 18 beers into the night. There are much better places in SA to get a burger during normal hours. I recommend Lord's Kitchen, Chris Madrid's, or Bobby J's.
5. Since you'll now be going from Austin to Houston, head down 183 to Luling and grab some brisket from City Market. It's my favorite in the state, but there are also some great spots in Lockhart (Smitty's, Kreuz, and Black's). You really can't go wrong with any of them. Next, head down to Shiner and take a tour at the Spoetzl Brewery. You get tokens for free beer at the end.
6. Take your time on your drive and experience the great scenery.Some great stuff here. The Czech Stop is always a good tip, if you have to be making the trip from Dallas to Austin/San Antonio. Great barbeque tips too. All the ones you mentioned are exceptional and part of the quintessential Texas experience. Though I think you are a bit tough on SA, it is true that Austin has a lot to offer. Barton Springs pool, in the middle of town, is worth the visit. If you google the Austin Chronicle, you can find out about what is happening around town. Unfortunately, you might be coming during the ACL fest, and there will be no place to stay. Pretty much October 3-6, 10-13 are a mob scene and finding a hotel is unlikely. You can always make a day trip up there. If you are mainly coming for basketball and relaxation, SA is slowier paced that's for sure. Historically, the old mission are really interesting, and the Witte Museum is nice. Austin has some incredible museums- The Blanton, LBJ Library, Ransom, and the Bullock Texas State History, to name a few.

[Skull-1]

Holy shit there is a lot of bad advice in here.

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4. Don't waste your time at Whataburger unless it's 3am and you're 18 beers into the night. There are much better places in SA to get a burger during normal hours.

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I recommend Lord's Kitchen, Chris Madrid's, or Bobby J's.
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Lmao at YOUR bad advice. First of all, if the guy is coming to Texas then he has to try Whataburger. It is required or don't come here. It is a true Texas original. There is no substitute.


If we are talking San Antonio-specific burger joints then it is Chester's hands down.

So grab a Whataburger on the drive down from Dallas then hit Chester's in SA.

And yes, SA is a boring town. That's why I stayed way north in the Hill Country and only ventured into SA when I had to or to see the Spurs.

[xmas1997]

Lmao at YOUR bad advice. First of all, if the guy is coming to Texas then he has to try Whataburger. It is required or don't come here. It is a true Texas original. There is no substitute.


If we are talking San Antonio-specific burger joints then it is Chester's hands down.

So grab a Whataburger on the drive down from Dallas then hit Chester's in SA.

And yes, SA is a boring town. That's why I stayed way north in the Hill Country and only ventured into SA when I had to or to see the Spurs.


Whataburger started in Corpus Christi and only recently moved their corporate offices to San Antonio. Don't know where Chester's started but it doestn't even compare to Chris Madrids on Blanco Rd. near Hildebrand. Chris went to MSH school and graduated from Lee HS before opening up his famous eatery. Unfortunately he passed away earlier this year but his family carries on his tradition and his burgers always wins burger competitions all over the state as professed by Texas Monthly. Yes, Chester's is good, but doesn't compare.

Oh yeah, San Antonio is only boring if you are an illiterate idiot who doesn't know where to go and what to do. We like to say, "it is a big city with a small town atmosphere". (7th largest city in the USA)

[Skull-1]

Whataburger started in Corpus Christi and only recently moved their corporate offices to San Antonio.

Started in 1950. What's your point?




Don't know where Chester's started but it doestn't even compare to Chris Madrids on Blanco Rd.

I will take Chester's over Chris Madrid's




Oh yeah, San Antonio is only boring if you are an illiterate idiot who doesn't know where to go and what to do. We like to say, "it is a big city with a small town atmosphere". (7th largest city in the USA)


No, it is a dump. A big fat, poor, run down dump. It is anything but a small town atmosphere.

The best spots are well North of the airport. Quarry area is decent. The River Walk is boring.

Bulverde has better night life than central SA. Downtown SA is dirty and old.

Anyone...anyone who has traveled to any decent big city in the world would hardly rank central SA very high. Greater SA lives off the north side. It has the benefit of the terrain north and northwest, and new infrastructure, pretty oaks, limestone, and money...otherwise, SA would be Brownsville.

[xmas1997]

Started in 1950. What's your point?



I will take Chester's over Chris Madrid's




No, it is a dump. A big fat, poor, run down dump. It is anything but a small town atmosphere.

The best spots are well North of the airport. Quarry area is decent. The River Walk is boring.

Bulverde has better night life than central SA. Downtown SA is dirty and old.

Anyone...anyone who has traveled to any decent big city in the world would hardly rank central SA very high. Greater SA lives off the north side. It has the benefit of the terrain north and northwest, and new infrastructure, pretty oaks, limestone, and money...otherwise, SA would be Brownsville.


My point? Whataburger is good as far as fast food burger joints go, and better than the other fast food burger places, but still nothing to write home about.

You have obviously never eaten at Chris Madrids or you wouldn't make a silly statement like that, but Chester's is a close second.

And your last statement is totally preposterous. Having spent time at most of the major metropolises in the US and lived in a number of them, I can easily say that your statement has absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever. And the real truth is San Antonio is a very welcome warm pleasant respite from any of those others except possibly Santa Fe, New Mexico.
But I am thankful many feel the way you do because it keeps the idiots away and the uneducated uninformed.:hat

[Skull-1]

My point? Whataburger is good as far as fast food burger joints go, and better than the other fast food burger places, but still nothing to write home about.

You have obviously never eaten at Chris Madrids or you wouldn't make a silly statement like that, but Chester's is a close second.

And your last statement is totally preposterous. Having spent time at most of the major metropolises in the US and lived in a number of them, I can easily say that your statement has absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever. And the real truth is San Antonio is a very welcome warm pleasant respite from any of those others except possibly Santa Fe, New Mexico.
But I am thankful many feel the way you do because it keeps the idiots away and the uneducated uninformed.:hat


Uh, ok. Enjoy your Brownsville-With-a-Sports-Team. Talk about uninformed. SA only put fluoride in the water what, five years ago? Lmao.


The only good parts of San Antonio aren't really San Antonio any way. Just got gobbled up to support the desire to tax and get bigger bigger bigger. At least Boerne is stil its own, charming, quiet Hill Country town.

It won't be long before they wreck the hills north of 1604 with their stupid superstores and bulldozing of trees... What am I saying? They already are. Look out Bulverde and Spring, you're next.

If it weren't for the Hill Country SA would be rather unremarkable with a road system designed by a kid with a crayon...

And yes, I have eaten at CM's and I am not impressed.

[xmas1997]

I seriously doubt you've ever eaten there, you wouldn't have that opinion if you did, but I could really care less if you're impressed or not because the consensus of opinion is clearly against you.
To each his own.
As for fluoride, I voted against it every time. They finally got it through by not putting up for a vote by the public. If you had researched and knew the downsides vs. the upsides, you would have voted against it too so I see that as a step backward, not forward.
But you are entitled to your opinion ... for whatever it is worth, and so am I.

Geez, next you'll be trying to convince people there is a better night life in Bulverde, ...wait,
you already did! :rollin

[Libri]

I seriously doubt you've ever eaten there, you wouldn't have that opinion if you did, but I could really care less if you're impressed or not because the consensus of opinion is clearly against you.
To each his own.
As for fluoride, I voted against it every time. They finally got it through by not putting up for a vote by the public. If you had researched and knew the downsides vs. the upsides, you would have voted against it too so I see that as a step backward, not forward.
But you are entitled to your opinion ... for whatever it is worth, and so am I.

Geez, next you'll be trying to convince people there is a better night life in Bulverde, ...wait,
you already did! :rollin

Falfurrias tops them all. :p:

[Skull-1]

Bulverde has the best hole in the wall honky tonk within 75 miles of SA. Great food, live band, and no pollution.

You, sir, are a homer.

Hell, Brownsville has better Mexican food AND beach access close by.

Thank gawd for the Thousand Oaks and Stone Oak areas or SA would be just another worn out old big town with bad roads and grimy buildings.


Fluoridated water is just fine. You are an ill informed dolt who probably believes in black helicopters and space invaders...

[Skull-1]

Falfurrias tops them all. :p:

The Silver Dollar Saloon in Falfurrias was fun. What a dump. Cheap beer, nice people. Better than TP's ripoff joint.

[TE]

Anyone...anyone who has traveled to any decent big city in the world would hardly rank central SA very high. Greater SA lives off the north side. It has the benefit of the terrain north and northwest, and new infrastructure, pretty oaks, limestone, and money...otherwise, SA would be Brownsville.

Tbh I don't think any city could get as bad as Brownsville. That's quite literally the worst large city in the RGV with Mission and the tri cities (Pharr, San Juan, Alamo) a close 2nd and 3rd.

[TE]

But yeah I agree about the Mexican food. Actually anywhere in the RGV, you find quality Mexican food joints. I laugh when I go to San Antonio and people there think they eat Mexican food. Even the best Mexican food places in SA wouldn't lay a candle vs what the RGV has to offer.

lol at the Falfurria sighting.

[Skull-1]

Tbh I don't think any city could get as bad as Brownsville. That's quite literally the worst large city in the RGV with Mission and the tri cities (Pharr, San Juan, Alamo) a close 2nd and 3rd.


Yeah, Brownsville sucks. But The Vermillion is a great place to eat. McAllen is still the classiest city in the Valley and a way more exciting night life than SA.

[Skull-1]

But yeah I agree about the Mexican food. Actually anywhere in the RGV, you find quality Mexican food joints. I laugh when I go to San Antonio and people there think they eat Mexican food. Even the best Mexican food places in SA wouldn't lay a candle vs what the RGV has to offer.

lol at the Falfurria sighting.

Exactly. Once you leave the Valley food quality of the Mexican variety declines precipitously.

I go through Falfurrias all the time. Surprised anyone else even knew it existed. Lol

[TE]

Yeah, Brownsville sucks. But The Vermillion is a great place to eat. McAllen is still the classiest city in the Valley and a way more exciting night life than SA.
You could be right tbh. Over the past 3 years, 10th street in Mcallen has gotten pretty good. Granted it's no 6th street in Austin but it holds it's own.

Exactly. Once you leave the Valley food quality of the Mexican variety declines precipitously.

I go through Falfurrias all the time. Surprised anyone else even knew it existed. Lol

Fellow Valleyite here. I gotta pass through Falfurrias/Premont to get to my city (burg).

Rofl I remember some thread a while back where posters were discussing Mexican food in SA. I wanted to post in it but I felt like I would've come off as an asshole.

[Skull-1]

You could be right tbh. Over the past 3 years, 10th street in Mcallen has gotten pretty good. Granted it's no 6th street in Austin but it holds it's own.


Fellow Valleyite here. I gotta pass through Falfurrias/Premont to get to my city (burg).

Rofl I remember some thread a while back where posters were discussing Mexican food in SA. I wanted to post in it but I felt like I would've come off as an asshole.


We have a right to be aholes about the food. We are spoiled. Lol

10th Street has come a long way from cruising up and down in a muscle car and honking at the girls in the HEB parking lot. Lol

Harlingen even has a couple great places to hangout now that I think about it. If the walls could talk. Whew...

[ElNono]

You can't even drive 10th street in McAllen these days... crazy packed.

The RGV has grown quite a bit in the last few years... Premium Outlets in Mercedes, and a bunch of nifty stores and restaurants on 83 & Ware Rd (Cracker Barrel, Longhorn, etc).

:lol Falfurrias... we always drive by when heading up to San Antonio on 281.

About the Mexican food, I have some people swear by Ciro's in Weslaco. Personally, not a fan on Mexican food.

[TE]

Wtf Nono in the RGV?

Ciro's in Weslaco is better than anything SA has to offer tbh

[TE]

Yeah 10th street in Mcallen is the busiest street in the RGV. With the Mall and appealing restaurants/store businesses on the side...you'd get all the traffic

[ElNono]

Wtf Nono in the RGV?

Ciro's in Weslaco is better than anything SA has to offer tbh

Wife has family in the valley... We fly in once or twice a year. Sometimes we drive up to San Antonio and catch a game too if we have time.

[Skull-1]

Yeah 10th street in Mcallen is the busiest street in the RGV. With the Mall and appealing restaurants/store businesses on the side...you'd get all the traffic

On Friday and Saturday nights the cops started busting the cruisers. That ended that.

A busy street for sure, but at least North 10th isn't a light every block.

10th Street is paradise compared to anywhere in SA or Houston. You can get from the Big Bank all the way to Nolana in no time. Decently timed lights and no median curb to back up cars wanting to turn left like every other genius city does it.... I will take McAllen streets over anywhere other than MAYBE Salt Lake City. North-South any way. Nolana and 10th to 281 is a disaster. Way too many lights...

[TE]

Wife has family in the valley... We fly in once or twice a year. Sometimes we drive up to San Antonio and catch a game too if we have time.

You all fly into McAllen?

Hit me up next time you fly in...I'm here for the forseeable future

[TE]

On Friday and Saturday nights the cops started busting the cruisers. That ended that.

A busy street for sure, but at least North 10th isn't a light every block.
Well one would imagine with all the possible dangers (drunk drivers leaving lounges, clubs and bars) they'd do that.


10th Street is paradise compared to anywhere in SA or Houston. You can get from the Big Bank all the way to Nolana in no time. Decently timed lights and no median curb to back up cars wanting to turn left like every other genius city does it.... I will take McAllen streets over anywhere other than MAYBE Salt Lake City. North-South any way. Nolana and 10th to 281 is a disaster. Way too many lights...

Tbh you live here?

[xmas1997]

The Silver Dollar Saloon in Falfurrias was fun. What a dump. Cheap beer, nice people. Better than TP's ripoff joint.

Oh, so cute.
I remember my first beer!

[ElNono]

You all fly into McAllen?

Hit me up next time you fly in...I'm here for the forseeable future

Yeah. We normally head there at least once for the holidays. I'll let you know.

[xmas1997]

My Dad lives in Weslaco.

[Skull-1]

Well one would imagine with all the possible dangers (drunk drivers leaving lounges, clubs and bars) they'd do that.



Tbh you live here?

Nah, they just chased off all the kids. Now people egg houses and stuff...


Born and raised. I live there between furloughs these days. All my family is still there. I move around a lot but keep a home there.

[Skull-1]

My Dad lives in Weslaco.


Spent many a long hot day teaching young kids how to fly in Weslaco.

When I was a little kid there was NOTHING out there, and I mean NOTHING. Sewer smell hasn't changed. Never understood that...

[Skull-1]

Yeah. We normally head there at least once for the holidays. I'll let you know.

Yeah, we need a get together sometime. That would be awesome.


Go get some Enchiladas at Taco Fiesta over by La Vista park. Great food.

[hsxvvd]

Flights booked and paid.... This is happening!!!


Thanks for all the tips. Sounds like I won't go hungry.

Didn't realize Houston and Dallas so big though 6mil+... bit nervous about the driving. I've done the whole wrong side of the road driving in Canada and Hawaii but that wasn't big city driving.

[benfti]

am I the only one that noticed that he asks for sight seeing tips, and then gets procession of food advice?

[benfti]

mind you the flip would be

Hi im from San Antonio and im coming to Australia, what are some good places to go.

Hi, you could go to South Australia, but watch out for the Red backs under your toilet seat
You could go to New South wales, but watch out for the Blue Ringed Octopus, Box Jelly Fish and white tails
You could go to Victoria but watch out for the Tiger, Copper Head and Red Bellied Black Snakes in the garden
You could go to Queensland but watch out for the Inland Tipans
You could go to Western Australia but watch out for the Crocs
You could go to the Northern Territory but watch out for all of the above.

Most of all though watch out for the Sharks.

other than that, have fun

you wonder why Patty Mills is fast? He fucken has to be.

[xmas1997]

am I the only one that noticed that he asks for sight seeing tips, and then gets procession of food advice?

No, but you need to understand that the TexMex food in San Antonio is probably the best in the world as is attested by the military stationed here. They have eaten food all over the world and this subject always comes up when talking about San Antonio. And not only is the Mexican food excellent, and profuse here, but so is the BBQ, and now the Cajun food competes with the best that New Orleans has to offer with The Big Easy.
So it is natural that food enters into any conversation that includes San Antonio, and would explain why there are so many overweight people here too.

As for sights, the old mission trail is something that appeals to the intellectual of us, as does the Alamo (the Cradle of Texas Liberty), and for the family, or the romantic couple, the RiverWalk is unique, but for the kids there is Fiesta Texas and Seaworld, and in New Braunfels you can go raft down the Guadalupe River, or go to Schlitterbahn aquatic park and rides.
The Lost Maple Forest nearby and Enchanted Rock nearby have also been mentioned, but I don't think anyone mentioned Natural Bridge Caverns in north San Antonio.
And if antiques appeal to you then any neighboring town will keep you occupied such as Wimberly, Blanco, Lytle, Fredericksburg, Poth, etc.
I have only scratched the surface of things to do and go see in this area.
Don't believe the poo- pooers on here that put down San Antonio because this is a fantastic family type of city with the lowest crime in the US for it's size, and not known for the shallowness that accompanies the bar scene.
We are not known anymore for our music unless Tejano music appeals to you, yet some of the best musicians in the world hail from here and still make their homes here, they just have to go elsewhere to make it big.

[xmas1997]

Flights booked and paid.... This is happening!!!


Thanks for all the tips. Sounds like I won't go hungry.

Didn't realize Houston and Dallas so big though 6mil+... bit nervous about the driving. I've done the whole wrong side of the road driving in Canada and Hawaii but that wasn't big city driving.

No, you won't go hungry, that's for sure.
Is it your whole family coming, any kids?
And actually Dallas isn't as big as San Antonio, but if you combine it with the city of Ft. Worth and all the little cities in between, then it is larger.
Houston however, is the 3rd largest city in the US. But it also has the most overcrowding, probably the worst humidity, definitely the worst driving (people drive offensively rather than defensively there, and have to just to get anywhere because the traffic is so crowded and bad), and the biggest Mosquitos! :lol
Shiner Bock is not Fosters, but it is good, try it.
And you have to eat some breakfast tacos of any variety, of which there are many, they originated here in this general area and then spread all over the world. Whataburger is good at least once but it is typical fast food burger fare at best, there are many better burger places already been suggested, however you need to have at least one Mexican food dinner or you've missed out on what S. A. is best known for.

By the way, this is not BS as some on here might try to mislead, they can all be easily verified online if you make just the tiniest effort to research San Antonio and environs.
:hat

[Skull-1]

No, but you need to understand that the TexMex food in San Antonio is probably the best in the world as is attested by the military stationed here. They have eaten food all over the world and this subject always comes up when talking about San Antonio. And not only is the Mexican food excellent, and profuse here, but so is the BBQ, and now the Cajun food competes with the best that New Orleans has to offer with The Big Easy.
So it is natural that food enters into any conversation that includes San Antonio, and would explain why there are so many overweight people here too.
.
You are an idiot. The military only thinks SA has the best texmex because there are no bases in the Rio Grande Valley. Lmao at the ridiculous notion that SA even knows what texmex is compared to McAllen, Harlingen, Brownsville etc.!

[xmas1997]

You are an idiot. The military only thinks SA has the best texmex because there are no bases in the Rio Grande Valley. Lmao at the ridiculous notion that SA even knows what texmex is compared to McAllen, Harlingen, Brownsville etc.!

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. Yes, I will only agree that the food there is great since I've spent so much time there, my family is from Weslaco, so I know the good places and the bad places.
But to compare it with San Antonio is out and out ludicrous because both are good, just San Antonio has more good ones is all, and what's more some of the best in the world. As much as I love the Valley and its food, I have to be honest and call it like it is. You should try a little honesty yourself, it might do you some good, unless of course you are just too blinded and proud. If so, then remember, pride comes before a fall!

[TE]

:lmao @ anyone saying SA Mexican food is better than Valley food. That's such a dishonest lie. I could count the number of decent Mexican food restaurants in San Antonio with one of my hands. For the most part the food tastes like it's been microwaved the fuck out.

:lol canola oil sauteed fajitas with cheap HEB store bought tortillas being the norm in most SA Mexican food restaurants

[xmas1997]

:lmao @ anyone saying SA Mexican food is better than Valley food. That's such a dishonest lie. I could count the number of decent Mexican food restaurants in San Antonio with one of my hands. For the most part the food tastes like it's been microwaved the fuck out.

:lol canola oil sauteed fajitas with cheap HEB store bought tortillas being the norm in most SA Mexican food restaurants

What? You can't handle truth either?
It is widely known that S.A. Mexican food is the best in the world, and I can attest to that having lived in both areas.
Just stating the facts. Sorry if the truth hurts.

And to be perfectly honest there is not much difference between the two except San Antonio has more of them and better places. You meant to say that you can count the number of really great places in the Valley on one hand (well, actually it would take two hands), whereas in S. A. they are on almost every block, and the best ones are the hole in wall greasy spoons. :blah
And you can take that to the bank, but if you still don't believe then google it. But I don't have the patience nor the time to waste arguing on this subject anymore. You can live in your fantasy world if you want, I know the truth because I spend most of my time in both areas and have family in both, plus I post a foodie website on this very subject and have explored the new and the old food places with an emphasis on TexMex food.

IMHO this is a silly stupid argument. So say what you will, it won't change the facts.

[baseline bum]

am I the only one that noticed that he asks for sight seeing tips, and then gets procession of food advice?

That's because there are no sights in San Antonio tbh.

[xmas1997]

That's because there are no sights in San Antonio tbh.

:lmao
C'mon, Bum, you know there are.
But that was funny anyway.

[TE]

You would be from Weslaco, tbh:lol.
I lived in San Antonio off and on during my middle and high school years. I have gone many a times to SA (got family) and I've tried just about every recommended restaurant. It's trashy as fuck and an embarrasement to Mexican food (really an embarrasement to real Mexicans). San Antonio, in general, blows. The only things that standout in SA are the Spurs and UTHSCSA Medical School. Everything else is shitty as fuck.

[TE]

That's because there are no sights in San Antonio tbh.

:lmao, tbh

[TE]

You are an idiot. The military only thinks SA has the best texmex because there are no bases in the Rio Grande Valley. Lmao at the ridiculous notion that SA even knows what texmex is compared to McAllen, Harlingen, Brownsville etc.!

Haven't you read bro? xmas1997 knows best

[Skull-1]

:lmao @ anyone saying SA Mexican food is better than Valley food. That's such a dishonest lie. I could count the number of decent Mexican food restaurants in San Antonio with one of my hands. For the most part the food tastes like it's been microwaved the fuck out.

:lol canola oil sauteed fajitas with cheap HEB store bought tortillas being the norm in most SA Mexican food restaurants

[Skull-1]

Haven't you read bro? xmas1997 knows best


Yes, shame on me. Nevermind that people down here in the Valley actually make the stuff from scratch the right way. My nanny would roll the tortillas by hand, etc. like all the real places do it, etc. etc. etc.

[xmas1997]

You would be from Weslaco, tbh:lol.
I lived in San Antonio off and on during my middle and high school years. I have gone many a times to SA (got family) and I've tried just about every recommended restaurant. It's trashy as fuck and an embarrasement to Mexican food (really an embarrasement to real Mexicans). San Antonio, in general, blows. The only things that standout in SA are the Spurs and UTHSCSA Medical School. Everything else is shitty as fuck.

:lmao Give me a break! And don't be so childish with your preposterous ignorance.
I remember my first beer too! :lmao

[ElNono]

That's because there are no sights in San Antonio tbh.

Well, there's the Alamo, and then that tower on Hemisfair Park... but I suppose he's going to be there more than one afternoon, tbh...

[xmas1997]

Well, there's the Alamo, and then that tower on Hemisfair Park... but I suppose he's going to be there more than one afternoon, tbh...

:rollin

[hsxvvd]

No, you won't go hungry, that's for sure.
Is it your whole family coming, any kids?
And actually Dallas isn't as big as San Antonio, but if you combine it with the city of Ft. Worth and all the little cities in between, then it is larger.
Houston however, is the 3rd largest city in the US. But it also has the most overcrowding, probably the worst humidity, definitely the worst driving (people drive offensively rather than defensively there, and have to just to get anywhere because the traffic is so crowded and bad), and the biggest Mosquitos! :lol
Shiner Bock is not Fosters, but it is good, try it.
And you have to eat some breakfast tacos of any variety, of which there are many, they originated here in this general area and then spread all over the world. Whataburger is good at least once but it is typical fast food burger fare at best, there are many better burger places already been suggested, however you need to have at least one Mexican food dinner or you've missed out on what S. A. is best known for.

By the way, this is not BS as some on here might try to mislead, they can all be easily verified online if you make just the tiniest effort to research San Antonio and environs.
:hat

No coming alone. Solo traveller. I'm a single dad and I thought about taking my eldest (will be 3 by then), but 3-4hr road trips and 3 games in 6 nights, I can't imagine he'd be too impressed.

Would you suggest ditching the rental in Houston and using public transport? The Toyota center appears to be in the center of town seem unlikely I'll need the car.

You guys passionate about your food in here... I bought a frozen "TexMex" party pack for a recent get together at my house... getting into the spirit of the upcoming trip... consisted of various items... crumbed egg plant slices, mini fajitas, re-fried beans, spicy potato gems, crumbed onion rings and chilli sweet potato pieces.... it looked disgusting and was the joke of the party... didn't taste to bad though.... but I'm just about the only one who was game enough to try....so the TexMex bar is very low... I'll be easily impressed.

[hsxvvd]

mind you the flip would be

Hi im from San Antonio and im coming to Australia, what are some good places to go.

Hi, you could go to South Australia, but watch out for the Red backs under your toilet seat
You could go to New South wales, but watch out for the Blue Ringed Octopus, Box Jelly Fish and white tails
You could go to Victoria but watch out for the Tiger, Copper Head and Red Bellied Black Snakes in the garden
You could go to Queensland but watch out for the Inland Tipans
You could go to Western Australia but watch out for the Crocs
You could go to the Northern Territory but watch out for all of the above.

Most of all though watch out for the Sharks.

other than that, have fun

you wonder why Patty Mills is fast? He fucken has to be.

He's not lying... I had a red bellied black snake in my backyard last summer, he was sitting underneath my kids kiddie pool and I was just about to put them in it, when he came out!

I'm told they are a protected species... but so are my kids... needless to say there is one less red bellied black snake in Australia.

[Libri]

You guys passionate about your food in here... I bought a frozen "TexMex" party pack for a recent get together at my house... getting into the spirit of the upcoming trip... consisted of various items... crumbed egg plant slices, mini fajitas, re-fried beans, spicy potato gems, crumbed onion rings and chilli sweet potato pieces.... it looked disgusting and was the joke of the party... didn't taste to bad though.... but I'm just about the only one who was game enough to try....so the TexMex bar is very low... I'll be easily impressed.

TexMex food with eggplant and chilli sweet potato? :lol I'm kind of tempted, tbh.

[Libri]

Here are some common dishes you will see in a TexMex restaurant if you want to try them: huevos rancheros (breakfast), pozole, menudo, tacos de carne guisada, gorditas, barbacoa, fajitas, enchiladas, tamales, burritos, quesadillas, to name a few.

[xmas1997]

TexMex food with eggplant and chilli sweet potato? :lol I'm kind of tempted, tbh.


Me too, but that definitely is not Tex Mex.
Here is what you do, when you are here in San Antonio, ask anyone, while maybe getting some gas for your car, where the best authentic Mexican food is nearby. I seriously doubt they will steer you wrong. It may look like a dive or a greasy spoon, but I guarantee you won't be sorry. Then once inside the restaurant tell the waitress where you are from and to recommend an excellent authentic REGULAR authentic Mexican meal for you to try. They won't steer you wrong either. We are proud of our food here.
Other than a cab, public trans in Houston sucks, in fact unless you want to visit NASA, stay away from Houston.:nope

Oh, and before I forget, we like our avocado with salt, contrary to South America who eat them with sugar.
A common avocado concoction is guacamole and it is really green and really good tasting. Chicken mole is real good too if you like peanut butter.

[hsxvvd]

Me too, but that definitely is not Tex Mex.
Here is what you do, when you are here in San Antonio, ask anyone, while maybe getting some gas for your car, where the best authentic Mexican food is nearby. I seriously doubt they will steer you wrong. Then inside the restaurant tell the waitress where you are from and to recommend an excellent authentic REGULAR authentic Mexican meal for you to try. They won't steer you wrong either. We are proud of our food here.
Other than a cab, public trans in Houston sucks, in fact unless you want to visit NASA, stay away from Houston.:nope

My ticket to the Houston game is probably my best of the three, so I can't avoid it. But I'm thinking I'll ditch the car and get myself a hotel as close to the Toyota center as I can. I can then book a guided tour from the hotel to NASA and a transfer to the airport home.

[TE]

:lmao Give me a break! And don't be so childish with your preposterous ignorance.
I remember my first beer too! :lmao

:lol @ calling other people childish and ignorant when almost all your posts are just that.
:lol "trust me! I know and experienced everything. Believe me, or you're in your own delusional world!"
:lol relying on the word of militarymen who have never been to the RGV
:lol poor tourists chowing down canola oil sauteed fajitas wrapped in fake HEB bought tortillas

[xmas1997]

:lol @ calling other people childish and ignorant when almost all your posts are just that.
:lol "trust me! I know and experienced everything. Believe me, or you're in your own delusional world!"
:lol relying on the word of militarymen who have never been to the RGV
:lol poor tourists chowing down canola oil sauteed fajitas wrapped in fake HEB bought tortillas

Just stay in your tiny little fantasy world, ok? No one pays attention to you.

Hsxvvd, that sounds like a good plan to me.

[Skull-1]

:lol @ calling other people childish and ignorant when almost all your posts are just that.
:lol "trust me! I know and experienced everything. Believe me, or you're in your own delusional world!"
:lol relying on the word of militarymen who have never been to the RGV
:lol poor tourists chowing down canola oil sauteed fajitas wrapped in fake HEB bought tortillas

Tuh-Ruth bomb. Xmas is an ignoramus. Authentic Mexican food in SA. Lol. Please.

[TE]

Just stay in your tiny little fantasy world, ok? No one pays attention to you.

Yet you reply to my post. You sure are paying attention for a reason.

You take offense to the truth about SA Mexican food.

[xmas1997]

Tuh-Ruth bomb. Xmas is an ignoramus. Authentic Mexican food in SA. Lol. Please.

No one pays any attention to you too, sorry.

[TE]

I legitimately feed bad for hsxvvd. If I could, I'd fly you in and direct you to REAL Mexican food made by real Mexicans. None of the fake bullshit rendition called "TexMex" in SA.

I'm talking real Mexican food.

[RD2191]

chill out folks, both places have good and crappy restaurants

[xmas1997]

chill out folks, both places have good and crappy restaurants

And that is the honest truth.
However I wouldn't put it past them to quote the bible to support their better Valley Mexican food argument. :blah

[Skull-1]

And that is the honest truth.
However I wouldn't put it past them to quote the bible to support their better Valley Mexican food argument. :blah

The Bible has no relevance here. But the Valley has the best Mexican food and frankly, I don't recall anyplace that wasn't good.

[xmas1997]

The Bible has no relevance here. But the Valley has the best Mexican food and frankly, I don't recall anyplace that wasn't good.

Fine, have it your way.
It's the least I expect given the ignorance of a bandwagon Spur fan. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[RD2191]

are you all from the valley? do you all go to a certain bar to watch games?

[TE]

BJ's Brewhouse, Tilted Kilt, Beef O Brady's and Buffalo Wild Wings. Those are my spots. You live in the RGV, rob?

[xmas1997]

are you all from the valley? do you all go to a certain bar to watch games?

Don't know about the others, but part of my family is in the Valley (Weslaco) and the other here in S.A. I've lived all over the world in my some odd 60 years on this planet, but South Texas from Austin to the Valley I call home. And I rarely go to bars anymore unless they pay me to play music there.
I live in San Antonio now, the food is better, although it is still great in the Valley too, and I love South Padre. Blackbeards all you can eat flounder can't be beat anywhere!

[RD2191]

Yeah, born and raised. Was working in Corpus but things slowed down, now I'm back home.

[TE]

Yeah, born and raised. Was working in Corpus but things slowed down, now I'm back home.

Sweet, man. Mcallen, Burg?

[RD2191]

Sweet, man. Mcallen, Burg?
Really small town on 107, La Villa. Pretty hood place to live in. Lol.

[SupremeGuy]

Mexican food in SA doesn't even come close to comparing to Mexican food in the Valley. That is unquestionable.

[xmas1997]

There used to be a nice restaurant across the river in Progresso I often went to, but I heard it closed down. You could get five course meals. Anyone remember the name of it? I didn't say it was great, rather it was nice. Was it Rodrigos, or Roberto's, or something like that? Just don't remember.
Wait, Arturo's?

[TE]

Really small town on 107, La Villa. Pretty hood place to live in. Lol.

Oh shit, dem Cardinals! Lol I live 10 mins away from La Villa.

[xmas1997]

You know, Tom Landry is from Mission.

[TE]

I bet he regrets that, unless he's from the Sharyland area.

[spurs10]

Mexican food in SA doesn't even come close to comparing to Mexican food in the Valley. That is unquestionable. Has our Australian guest decided to blow off the Spurs and spend his time in the USA in The Rio Grande Valley instead? Who knew? :hat

[RD2191]

Oh shit, dem Cardinals! Lol I live 10 mins away from La Villa.
Yeah, lol, They got the crap beat out of em in their first home game. Santa Rosa? Mercedes?

[TE]

Has our Australian guest decided to blow off the Spurs and spend his time in the USA in The Rio Grande Valley instead? Who knew? :hat

He could get the best of both worlds. The Spurs and then good ole RGV and all it has to offer.

[SupremeGuy]

Has our Australian guest decided to blow off the Spurs and spend his time in the USA in The Rio Grande Valley instead? Who knew? :hatI was just responding to the natural direction of the thread, homie. The Valley sucks at a lot of things, but Mexican food isn't one of them. lol

[TE]

Yeah, lol, They got the crap beat out of em in their first home game. Santa Rosa? Mercedes?

I wouldn't put too much into the loss. La Grulla is pretty good plus it's a 3A school. You all play Santa Rosa next iirc.

Edinburg man, born and raised.

[xmas1997]

Has our Australian guest decided to blow off the Spurs and spend his time in the USA in The Rio Grande Valley instead? Who knew? :hat

Maybe so! :rollin
But having lived in both areas and around the world I can easily attest that the Mexican food is pretty much the same in both areas, there is just more of it and many more great places to eat it in the S. A. area than in the Valley, no offense intended, just facts. Austin however has very few good places to eat it, and San Marcos has a great place right off IH35 called Henry's that rivals anything in either area.

[TE]

I was just responding to the natural direction of the thread, homie. The Valley sucks at a lot of things, but Mexican food isn't one of them. lol

SPI is also better than anything SA has to offer sans the Spurs. Like Skull-1 said, San Antonio is the valley but it has a basketball team. If you put the main cities of the RGV within a city geographically, it'd be another San Antonio, cept we got a nice little beach :)

[RD2191]

I wouldn't put too much into the loss. La Grulla is pretty good plus it's a 3A school. You all play Santa Rosa next iirc.

Edinburg man, born and raised.
Yeah, good ol Sugar Bowl. Lol. Sweet man, Where did you grad from? North? Economedes?

[ElNono]

Really small town on 107, La Villa. Pretty hood place to live in. Lol.

sup robdiaz, you hitting la pulga in Alamo on Sundays? :lol

[Skull-1]

Mexican food in SA doesn't even come close to comparing to Mexican food in the Valley. That is unquestionable. Tell it to Mister Know It All Xmas.

[Skull-1]

Maybe so! :rollin
But having lived in both areas and around the world I can easily attest that the Mexican food is pretty much the same in both areas, there is just more of it and many more great places to eat it in the S. A. area than in the Valley, no offense intended, just facts. Austin however has very few good places to eat it, and San Marcos has a great place right off IH35 called Henry's that rivals anything in either area. San Marcos? You're kidding me right? That place sucks compared to anything in the Valley. You are a delusional fool with no tastebuds. I bet you think Taco Bell is Mexican food, right?

[TE]

Yeah, good ol Sugar Bowl. Lol. Sweet man, Where did you grad from? North? Economedes?

Edinburg High brotha

[RD2191]

sup robdiaz, you hitting la pulga in Alamo on Sundays? :lol
Lol, that place is way too wild for me. I usually go to the crappy one in Mercedes.

[xmas1997]

San Marcos? You're kidding me right? That place sucks compared to anything in the Valley. You are a delusional fool with no tastebuds. I bet you think Taco Bell is Mexican food, right?

Don't be ridiculous and please quit showing your ignorance, you obviously have a lot to learn and many places to discover before you go spouting your mouth off. Taco Bell? That sounds like one of your places, you brought it up, not I.
And yes, in little old San Marcos there is a fantastic place, how improbable!
Geez, what a confined backward idiot you truly are!
Feel that rope getting tighter yet?:lmao

[Skull-1]

Don't be ridiculous and please quit showing your ignorance, you obviously have a lot to learn and many places to discover before you go spouting your mouth off. Taco Bell? That sounds like one of your places, you brought it up, not I.
And yes, in little old San Marcos there is a fantastic place, how improbable!
Geez, what a confined backward idiot you truly are!
Feel that rope getting tighter yet?:lmao

I have eaten at every place in that town. The best pseudo Mexican there....well...they're all bad. I think Los Cucos is the only one I ate all of my plate. You are such a moron.

[rascal]

Smitty's has been added to the list... it's my nickname, so how could I not go there for the obligatory selfy in front of the sign! If the food is good... Bonus!

Got to do some barbecue and Mexican food while in Texas.

[xmas1997]

I have eaten at every place in that town. The best pseudo Mexican there....well...they're all bad. I think Los Cucos is the only one I ate all of my plate. You are such a moron.

Obviously you didn't because there is only one place to eat that is really good there, Henry's.
So you are just showing more of your ignorance.
But don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself since you seem to think you're such an authority, everyone who lives there knows how to give you directions.

[TE]

:lmao San Marcos only has one restaurant that remotely resembles Mexican food and it's not something to rave on
:lmao "fantastic place"

[rascal]

Yes, shame on me. Nevermind that people down here in the Valley actually make the stuff from scratch the right way. My nanny would roll the tortillas by hand, etc. like all the real places do it, etc. etc. etc.

He is not going to the Valley to eat. He wants to know what is good in SAN ANTONIO.

[Skull-1]

We told him about SA. But there's not much good there. Actually, Austin has this little dump hole in the wall near the airport that beats anything in SA.


Xmas ran his mouth saying SA has the best TexMex in the world which is laughable at best.

then he veered off course to San Marcos which is even worse!

[rascal]

The Mexican food is san Antonio is fine. I even think that little place on Perrin Beitel, Thousand Oaks Café has good Mexican food.

[Skull-1]

Obviously you didn't because there is only one place to eat that is really good there, Henry's.
So you are just showing more of your ignorance.
But don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself since you seem to think you're such an authority, everyone who lives there knows how to give you directions.


Three stars. Lmao. http://www.yelp.com/biz/henrys-restaurant-san-marcos

[Skull-1]

The Mexican food is san Antonio is fine. I even think that little place on Perrin Beitel, Thousand Oaks Café has good Mexican food.

Fine if you didn't grow up in the Valley. We know the score.

[spurs10]

I was just responding to the natural direction of the thread, homie. The Valley sucks at a lot of things, but Mexican food isn't one of them. lol:toast I'm with you! It would be cool if he could make it to the valley. No question it would be a great experience!

[xmas1997]

The Mexican food is san Antonio is fine. I even think that little place on Perrin Beitel, Thousand Oaks Café has good Mexican food.

I've probably seen you there. They also have a place on the Austin Hwy. They do have good food. But I could clue you into some even better places as long as you keep an open mind about it, unlike some other narrow minded posters on here who won't open their minds and mouths to some great gastronomical Mexican food experiences.
But you probably already know some yourself.

[xmas1997]

:toast I'm with you! It would be cool if he could make it to the valley. No question it would be a great experience!

And I wholeheartedly agree.
I never said they didn't have great Mexican food places, just that there are many more of them in San Antonio.
And definitely might like South Padre.

[Skull-1]

And I wholeheartedly agree.
I never said they didn't have great Mexican food places, just that there are many more of them in San Antonio.
And definitely might like South Padre.


Lmao lmao lmao lmao at the ignorance.

[xmas1997]

Lmao lmao lmao lmao at the ignorance.


Ignorance? That is definitely something you are full of for sure. You are doing a wonderful job of hanging yourself in it, not only in this thread, but also in the other thread spouting your self-righteous BS.
In fact I don't know if we could ever agree on anything after having read your ignorant views.
And you have the gaul to call me ignorant? You will have a rude awakening sometime, either that or reap a shit load of nasty karma. For that I pity you, but for your ignorance I chastise you. Yet I will not nor will I ever judge you.
That, you poor soul, belongs to God. Good luck with your preposterous and narrow minded views.
I'm certainly very very glad I am not in your shoes!

Hsxvvd, I sincerely apologize for all the idiocy in your thread. Hopefully you can glean a bit of truth in all of this and read between the lines. Have a great time and Go Spurs Go!

[hsxvvd]

It's been entertaining. Can't wait to return with my impartial albeit I uniformed judgement on the food debate.

[Skull-1]

It's been entertaining. Can't wait to return with my impartial albeit I uniformed judgement on the food debate.Oh don't judge. Xmas may wet himself or call you a pagan.

[TE]

xmas1997 is like 60+ years old so he adequately sounds like a morphed up hybrid version of a on-steroid happy version of the perv grandpa from Family Guy and wannabe wise-ole grandpa from Hey Arnold. Sickening display of dishonesty and delusion, tbh.

[TE]

And I wholeheartedly agree.
I never said they didn't have great Mexican food places, just that there are many more of them in San Antonio.
And definitely might like South Padre.
Why wouldn't he like it, tbh? :lolIt's the best thing to do outside of going to a Spurs game.

[xmas1997]

xmas1997 is like 60+ years old but he sounds like morphed up hybrid version of a on-steroid happy version of the perv grandpa from Family Guy and wannabe wise-ole grandpa from Hey Arnold. Sickening display of dishonesty and delusion, tbh.
You can cease with the lying and childishness now because we've never met, you don't know me from Adam, nor will you ever, I don't associate with juvenile snot nosed punks like you who are bandwagon fans posing as Spur fans and yet cry and whine about every little thing.
Plus we've all read your posts and nobody takes you seriously, sorry.
You made your bed, now sleep in it!
And allow me to eat my delicious breakfast taco in peace, the best tacos in the world!

[The Reckoning]

damn people upstairs are a bunch of dickless assholes

[xmas1997]

damn people upstairs are a bunch of dickless assholes

Wow, what happened up there? Can't be worse than some of the idiots on here!

[The Reckoning]

Wow, what happened up there? Can't be worse than some of the idiots on here!


this is upstairs

[xmas1997]

this is upstairs

Oh.:lol. I'm told it is because it is the off season. But we have been plagued by an exceeding number of ignorant whiners and narrow minded fans lately. However I'm coming to the conclusion they are trolls disguised as Spur fans.

Again, I want to apologize to hsxvvd for all the BS that I have had to respond to rather than valid information.

[TE]

You can cease with the lying and childishness now because we've never met, you don't know me from Adam, nor will you ever, I don't associate with juvenile snot nosed punks like you who are bandwagon fans posing as Spur fans and yet cry and whine about every little thing.
Plus we've all read your posts and nobody takes you seriously, sorry.
You made your bed, now sleep in it!
And allow me to eat my delicious breakfast taco in peace, the best tacos in the world!

Okay, Avante. Tell us how juvenile we all are and how much you know. That's really telling us!

:lol got you all pissed off
:lol effeminate long paragraph responses showing your senility and delusion
:lol dumbfuck faggot calling others whiny when his vagina rears its saggy head in every post

[TE]

I want to apologize to OP for the regulating of certain posters who spout ignorance in an attempt to display their know-it-all complex.

[xmas1997]

Okay, Avante. Tell us how juvenile we all are and how much you know. That's really telling us!

:lol got you all pissed off
:lol effeminate long paragraph responses showing your senility and delusion
:lol dumbfuck faggot calling others whiny when his vagina rears its saggy head in every post

:troll

Yeah, we have your number now!
Just go back to your cell and stay there.
Don't make me come in there! :lol

[TE]

Yeah, you really are telling us "juveniles"!

[Spur|n|Austin]

damn people upstairs are a bunch of dickless assholes

yep..


Wow, what happened up there? Can't be worse than some of the idiots on here!

smh.

[xmas1997]

Yeah, you really are telling us "juveniles"!

You and skull both have lost all credibility, you are a complete laughing stock, no more, no less. So how does it feel to be such a fool? I pity you.
Just go back to your cage.

:troll

[Skull-1]

Yeah, you really are telling us "juveniles"!

[Skull-1]

xmas1997 is like 60+ years old so he adequately sounds like a morphed up hybrid version of a on-steroid happy version of the perv grandpa from Family Guy and wannabe wise-ole grandpa from Hey Arnold. Sickening display of dishonesty and delusion, tbh.


i figured he was fifteen or sixteen based on the birth year in his signature.

[xmas1997]

You've lost all credibility, too dense, and ignorant
I'm through trying to help or educate you, I leave you to confess to your Maker.

:troll

[Skull-1]

You've lost all credibility, too dense, and ignorant
I'm through trying to help or educate you, I leave you to confess to your Maker.

:troll


Good. When you shut your piehole the signal to noise ratio around here will improve dramatically.

[xmas1997]

Good. When you shut your piehole the signal to noise ratio around here will improve dramatically.

:troll

[TE]

i figured he was fifteen or sixteen based on the birth year in his signature.

He sure sounds like it. I only posted the quoted because you know what they say about old people that are losing it. A better and more severe case is Avante down in the club. xmas is not that far behind with regard to whining and the me-know-it-all attitude spamming shitty take after take.

[Skull-1]

He sure sounds like it. I only posted the quoted because you know what they say about old people that are losing it. A better and more severe case is Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) down in the club. xmas is not that far behind with regard to whining and the me-know-it-all attitude spamming shitty take after take.

Amen to that, dude. Whiny little teenager without any hair on his chin even and bad delusional take after bad deulsional take. Can't even get Tex-Mex food right. LMAO.

[hsxvvd]

So based on the direction of this thread, if I ask for directions in Texas I'm likely to have one guy tell me one way, another guy a different way. Then the two of them will start arguing about it and end up in a fist fight.

[baseline bum]

So based on the direction of this thread, if I ask for directions in Texas I'm likely to have one guy tell me one way, another guy a different way. Then the two of them will start arguing about it and end up in a fist fight.

Nah, shootout tbh.

[TE]

Just go to SPI if you got money and free time to afford it. It's better than that shitty pathogen-infested creek they call the river walk. It's the best thing to do outside of going to a Spurs game imo.

I'll pay for your dinner if you head down here for a couple of days tbh. The thought of a cluelessly-poor foreigner partaking in the shitty TexMex eateries of SA compels me to make this offer tbh.

[TE]

Nah, shootout tbh.

You know better

[Skull-1]

Just go to SPI if you got money and free time to afford it. It's better than that shitty pathogen-infested creek they call the river walk. It's the best thing to do outside of going to a Spurs game imo.

I'll pay for your dinner if you head down here for a couple of days tbh. The thought of a cluelessly-poor foreigner partaking in the shitty TexMex eateries of SA compels me to make this offer tbh.


Classic!

[xmas1997]

Had a gig so couldn't post until now.
As you can see TE and skull are two of a kind, maybe even the same ignoramus, and not to ever be taken seriously since they troll this site.
You can easily read the intelligent rational posters from the nincompoops like them.
The holes in their arguments are easily exposed so be sure not to pay any attention to those two trolls, we have a few on this site like them who plague this forum and we just tolerate their stupid posts for comic relief.
:hat

[TE]

The only holes in an argument are found in yours. Your shitty takes have ad hominems and ad ignorantiams in an attempt to make a point that can never be made. Your appeal to ignorance was noted months ago when your username started spamming vanilla take after vanilla take. Now its gotten so bad to the point that you're intentionally fucking up the OP's trip by lying to him about food and nightlife. Fix yourself. You're losing yourself, faggot.

[Skull-1]

The only holes in an argument are found in yours. Your shitty takes have ad hominems and ad ignorantiams in an attempt to make a point that can never be made. Your appeal to ignorance was noted months ago when your username started spamming vanilla take after vanilla take. Now its gotten so bad to the point that you're intentionally fucking up the OP's trip by lying to him about food and nightlife. Fix yourself. You're losing yourself, faggot.


:lol :rollin:toast

[xmas1997]

The only holes in an argument are found in yours. Your shitty takes have ad hominems and ad ignorantiams in an attempt to make a point that can never be made. Your appeal to ignorance was noted months ago when your username started spamming vanilla take after vanilla take. Now its gotten so bad to the point that you're intentionally fucking up the OP's trip by lying to him about food and nightlife. Fix yourself. You're losing yourself, faggot.


You're as sick and wrong as the troll skull. You've been called out as the troll you are, as has he. The only ones screwing up his trip are you two idiots.
He is intelligent enough to know troll posts when he reads them. Your BS about food was all the proof any of us need. And he has enough good information from most of us concerning food, sites, and interests to offset the ignorant ones you two trolls have posted, don't worry.
You should go back to the troll site where you belong and kindly allow the rest of us to post decent intelligent takes.
But then, that is not what trolls do, rather they make constant false accusations, resort to name calling, and in your case bigotry.
Good luck trying to convince anyone of anything with that type of attitude. :lol

[TE]

:cry "you big meanie" :cry

:lol stupid ignorant faggot who can't refute a thing I post
:lol getting bullied in da paint and crying about it

[Skull-1]

LOL, TE!!!! It's isn't nice to pick on the mentally unarmed. LOL!

[Skoobz]

Im from AUS too and went to SA for the 1999 Finals V knicks. I loved SA and met some really cool people. Oh and the Tex Mex food was th fo shizzle dizzle.

[xmas1997]

So based on the direction of this thread, if I ask for directions in Texas I'm likely to have one guy tell me one way, another guy a different way. Then the two of them will start arguing about it and end up in a fist fight.

:lol

No not really. I've been arguing with a couple of well known trolls here is all it is. I thought they might be reasonable, but I forgot that trolls don't use reason, if they did they wouldn't be trolling and that is how they get their kicks.
Just do what most of us do and don't pay any attention to them and they'll just slink away. They are good for comic relief.

[Skull-1]

:lol

No not really. I've been arguing with a couple of well known trolls here is all it is. I thought they might be reasonable, but I forgot that trolls don't use reason, if they did they wouldn't be trolling and that is how they get their kicks.
Just do what most of us do and don't pay any attention to them and they'll just slink away. They are good for comic relief.


You sound like a little kid whistling in the dark to reassure himself so he won't wet his pants in fear.

[xmas1997]

You sound like a little kid whistling in the dark to reassure himself so he won't wet his pants in fear.


See what I mean, Hsxvvd?
The quote above is a typical troll response to try and incite anger, or disbelief, or anything that allows them to get their rocks off by eliciting a response.
Like I said, the best thing to do is brush it off and laugh at how pathetic it is, a poor attempt at best. :lmao
They know not what they do. If they did they would be thoroughly disgusted and ashamed of themselves.
But again, trolling is how they get their kicks, sad though it be.

[Skull-1]

See what I mean, Hsxvvd?
The quote above is a typical troll response to try and incite anger, or disbelief, or anything that allows them to get their rocks off by eliciting a response.
Like I said, the best thing to do is brush it off and laugh at how pathetic it is, a poor attempt at best. :lmao
They know not what they do. If they did they would be thoroughly disgusted and ashamed of themselves.
But again, trolling is how they get their kicks, sad though it be.

Listen to Xmas everyone. *SOUND of NERVOUS WHISTLING*

[xmas1997]

Listen to Xmas everyone. *SOUND of NERVOUS WHISTLING*

Is that rope strangling you yet, should be about now, you keep hanging yourself. :lol

[Skull-1]

Is that rope strangling you yet, should be about now, you keep hanging yourself. :lol

*WHISTLING SOUND*

"Squawk! Squawk! Xmas wanna cracker! Squawk!"

[xmas1997]

*WHISTLING SOUND*

"Squawk! Squawk! Xmas wanna cracker! Squawk!"

You just get more and more inane with every single quote. :lmao
Got your rocks off yet? I'm waiting to see the next inane post from you.
Does your boyfriend know you're posting on this site?
Oops, I forgot, you divorced him!
You really are a joke, you know that?:lol

[Skull-1]

You just get more and more inane with every single quote. :lmao
Got your rocks off yet? I'm waiting to see the next inane post from you.
Does your boyfriend know you're posting on this site?
Oops, I forgot, you divorced him!
You really are a joke, you know that?:lol

*YAWN*

That's all you got?

My dog has better one liners than you do.

[TE]

You just get more and more inane with every single quote. :lmao
Got your rocks off yet? I'm waiting to see the next inane post from you.
Does your boyfriend know you're posting on this site?
Oops, I forgot, you divorced him!
You really are a joke, you know that?:lol

:cry personal attacks are immature, but not when I do them :cry

[xmas1997]

:cry personal attacks are immature, but not when I do them :cry


You again? You and skull make a cute pair.
Geez, get a life! :downspin:

[TE]

:lol shut up faggot hypocrite
:lol go work on your smack talk, its fucking pathetic

[Skull-1]

:cry personal attacks are immature, but not when I do them :cry


LOL Good catch! :)


:lol shut up faggot hypocrite
:lol go work on your smack talk, it's fucking pathetic

Couldn't agree more. And he just repeats the same lame attempted insult over and over and over again like a parrot.

[xmas1997]

:lol shut up faggot hypocrite
:lol go work on your smack talk, its fucking pathetic

:lmao what? Did the itty bitty bitch get his feelings hurt?
How sad. Oh, how so very sad.
And now it's a tag team match?
What a pair.

[TE]

:lmao what? Did the itty bitty bitch get his feelings hurt?
How sad. Oh, how so very sad.
And now it's a tag team match?
What a pair.

Sounds like your feelings are hurt. You said yourself you were done conversing with me pages ago and here you are again with your lame vanilla schtick. Some nerve I struck, tbh :lol

[xmas1997]

Sounds like your feelings are hurt. You said yourself you were done conversing with me pages ago and here you are again with your lame vanilla schtick. Some nerve I struck, tbh :lol


:lmao
Are you serious? :lmao
Seems to me the ones getting upset are you two lovebirds.
I could be wrong.
But I doubt it.

However I wouldn't mind meeting you two goons in the Valley sometime, it might be interesting.

[Skull-1]

Sounds like your feelings are hurt. You said yourself you were done conversing with me pages ago and here you are again with your lame vanilla schtick. Some nerve I struck, tbh :lol


He was done with me two days ago, but like the a bad case of herpes he keeps coming back.

[xmas1997]

Just feeding the trolls is all.

[TE]

:lmao
Are you serious? :lmao
Seems to me the ones getting upset are you two lovebirds.
I could be wrong.
But I doubt it.

However I wouldn't mind meeting you two goons in the Valley sometime, it might be interesting.
I don't associate with losers. You're gonna have to do better on Spurstalk to get yourself to be in my presence. Sorry.

[rascal]

Just go to SPI if you got money and free time to afford it. It's better than that shitty pathogen-infested creek they call the river walk. It's the best thing to do outside of going to a Spurs game imo.

I'll pay for your dinner if you head down here for a couple of days tbh. The thought of a cluelessly-poor foreigner partaking in the shitty TexMex eateries of SA compels me to make this offer tbh.

By the looks of his game schedule he won't have much free time.

[rascal]

I've probably seen you there. They also have a place on the Austin Hwy. They do have good food. But I could clue you into some even better places as long as you keep an open mind about it, unlike some other narrow minded posters on here who won't open their minds and mouths to some great gastronomical Mexican food experiences.
But you probably already know some yourself.

Is the Austin Highway/Eisenhower flea market still open? I used to go to the oldie record shop in there.

[xmas1997]

Is the Austin Highway/Eisenhower flea market still open? I used to go to the oldie record shop in there.

The indoor flea market on Eisenhower is still there. The outdoor one on Austen Hwy is long gone.

[xmas1997]

I don't associate with losers. You're gonna have to do better on Spurstalk to get yourself to be in my presence. Sorry.


A loser who doesn't want to associate with a loser? Then why are you two numb nuts together?

[TE]

A loser who doesn't want to associate with a loser? Then why are you two numb nuts together?
Did you read what I posted? YOU are the loser here. If you want to be in my presence in a future GTG between valleyites, you gotta start bring the goods rather than vanilla takes. I can't imagine how vanilla you are in real life. I wouldn't want to converse with you IRL, tbh. I can imagine that being associated with your kind brings the overall quality of a man down ten-fold.

[xmas1997]

Did you read what I posted? YOU are the loser here. If you want to be in my presence in a future GTG between valleyites, you gotta start bring the goods rather than vanilla takes. I can't imagine how vanilla you are in real life. I wouldn't want to converse with you IRL, tbh. I can imagine that being associated with your kind brings the overall quality of a man down ten-fold.


Don't flatter yourself. There is no way I would ever want to meet an ignorant backward hillbilly fool like you.
You have absolutely no class at all, and give Spur fans in general a bad name with your incessant whining.
The best thing you could do is go suck yourself off because you are a laughing stock of a human being, subhuman in actuality.
Everyone here knows you for the troll that you are, and sorry to say no one takes your posts seriously.
I pity you and have a good laugh at your expense.:lol
Now take your toys and go back to your cell.
Your trolling won't wash with anyone here anymore now that you have been called out for what you are.:troll
:nope
I have just been humoring you two trolls to see what you would say. It is so easy to psych either of you out it is pitiful. But in actuality you both are no more than a couple of annoying pests at best, and shameful pitiful excuses for human beings at worst. Your juvenile accusations and name calling pretty much condemns you both, two peas in a pod, two sides of the same coin.
You keep trying to get under people's skins but keep failing miserably.
I am just having fun calling you out and at your own expense.:stirpot:
In other more profound words you've been :owned:
:lmao

[TE]

Don't flatter yourself. There is no way I would ever want to meet an ignorant backward fool like you.
You have absolutely no class at all and give Spur fans a bad name.
The best thing you could do is go suck yourself off because you are a laughing stock of a human being, subhuman in actuality.
Everyone here knows you for the troll that you are, and sorry to say no one takes your posts seriously.
I pity you and have a good laugh at your expense.:lol
Now take your toys and go back to your cell.
Your trolling won't wash with anyone here anymore now that you have been called out for what you are.
:nope
Funny how you are the only poster who plays that card. Plenty of posters can vouch for me that I contribute more to this forum than your effeminate vanilla takes. It's just fact that you're a shitty fifth-tier poster with vanilla takes that make even the bottom dwellers seem competent.

Oh and don't worry about meeting me. Like I said, I don't associate with your kind. That you find what I said insulting should tell you how much of a pussy you sound like. Thus the me not wanting to meet you IRL.

[TE]

:lol editing your post

It sure seems like I have gotten under your skin. Typing up those paragraph long :cry stop exposing how much of a pussy I am :cry responses tells it all. You yourself said you were done pages ago and I'm still here regulating. Whether you want more, it's your call.

[xmas1997]

Funny how you are the only poster who plays that card. Plenty of posters can vouch for me that I contribute more to this forum than your effeminate vanilla takes. It's just fact that you're a shitty fifth-tier poster with vanilla takes that make even the bottom dwellers seem competent.

Oh and don't worry about meeting me. Like I said, I don't associate with your kind. That you find what I said insulting should tell you how much of a pussy you sound like. Thus the me not wanting to meet you IRL.

You're flattering yourself again. :lol
The only one you're fooling is yourself. No one except maybe skull and Tgy pays any attention to your ignorant posts.
Sorry to break it to you.
What? You really believed I would ever want to meet a backward doltish hillbilly like you? You are easier to fool than I thought!
No, I am just toying with you two trolls and have been for quite a while now, but you've been too obtuse to realize it.
Most of us are ashamed you attempt to call yourselves Spur fans because you exhibit zero class for a true long term Spur fan. You are more of the Mav/Laker variety.
And you exhibit all the mental acumen and maturity of a small child.
Each one of your posts sinks you deeper in your own abysmal mire, so keep it up. You are great comic relief.
:lol

[Skull-1]

:lol editing your post

It sure seems like I have gotten under your skin. Typing up those paragraph long :cry stop exposing how much of a pussy I am :cry responses tells it all. You yourself said you were done pages ago and I'm still here regulating. Whether you want more, it's your call.

[Skull-1]

You're flattering yourself again. :lol
The only one you're fooling is yourself. No one except maybe skull and Tgy pays any attention to your ignorant posts.
Sorry to break it to you.
What? You really believed I would ever want to meet a backward doltish hillbilly like you? You are easier to fool than I thought!
No, I am just toying with you two trolls and have been for quite a while now, but you've been too obtuse to realize it.
Most of us are ashamed you attempt to call yourselves Spur fans because you exhibit zero class for a true long term Spur fan. You are more of the Mav/Laker variety.
And you exhibit all the mental acumen and maturity of a small child.
Each one of your posts sinks you deeper in your own abysmal mire, so keep it up. You are great comic relief.
:lol


Class? This little punk is talking about class? LMAO at the irony!

TE contributes way more than the little 15 year old parrot ever dreamed.

First round on me, TE. :toast

[xmas1997]

Class? This little punk is talking about class? LMAO at the irony!

TE contributes way more than the little 15 year old parrot ever dreamed.

First round on me, TE. :toast

That's exactly right, you have no class and we are ashamed you call yourself a Spurs fan. You must be a snot nosed punk because no intelligent adult would bitch and whine and moan like you do.
Want more?
You keep asking for it. And you keep following me around this forum like a little bitch.
Why don't you do us all a favor and go back to your Mavs or Lakers teams where you belong?
We true Spurs fans never whine like immature crybabys, but that is your MO.
Aren't you through trolling this site yet?
And you still haven't posted a single informative intelligent take yet, rather you plague us here with narrow minded BS all the while refusing to acknowledge those of us who continually poke holes in your redundant arguments.
A word of advice, take your ball and just go home, because you are a total laughing stock here.
It behooves me and others to put you in your place time and time again with each new inaccuracy that you post. Your food BS took the cake, no pun intended.:nope
Frankly, you are becoming too predictable and booring barely worth a laugh.
:lol

[TE]

Still posting, but you ain't salty tho:lol...

[hsxvvd]

Sorry to interupt.

Looking to book accommodation at the La Quinta Inn Market Square. From what I've read this looks a decent location. I'm driving in, so I'm happy to avoid the Riverwalk locations, and apparently I can catch a "trolley" near here to downtown locations. It also looks simple enough to drive to games from this location? Thoughts/Opinions?

I also don't have limitless funds, and this cheaper hotel frees me up to stay more centrally in Houston.

[Skull-1]

Sorry to interupt.

Looking to book accommodation at the La Quinta Inn Market Square. From what I've read this looks a decent location. I'm driving in, so I'm happy to avoid the Riverwalk locations, and apparently I can catch a "trolley" near here to downtown locations. It also looks simple enough to drive to games from this location? Thoughts/Opinions?

I also don't have limitless funds, and this cheaper hotel frees me up to stay more centrally in Houston.


Trying to recall if I have stayed there since they remodeled it. If so, it is decent. Just can't remember.

[TE]

Yo Skull, which places do you normally watch games?

[xmas1997]

Sorry to interupt.

Looking to book accommodation at the La Quinta Inn Market Square. From what I've read this looks a decent location. I'm driving in, so I'm happy to avoid the Riverwalk locations, and apparently I can catch a "trolley" near here to downtown locations. It also looks simple enough to drive to games from this location? Thoughts/Opinions?

I also don't have limitless funds, and this cheaper hotel frees me up to stay more centrally in Houston.

That is a decent motel chain comparable to Best Western and almost as nice as the Holiday Inn. It is right downtown within walking distance of the RiverWalk, the Alamo, and the Market Square (farmers market) so you won't need the trolley.
And it's fairly easy to drive to the AT&T Center from there. Rush hour traffic is about the only thing that might impede you.
Whatever you do, do not pay any attention to anything posted by those two trolls skull and TE because they are only good for misinformation and leading you astray. Most of us just laugh at them.

[Mel_13]

:lol

No not really. I've been arguing with a couple of well known trolls here is all it is. I thought they might be reasonable, but I forgot that trolls don't use reason, if they did they wouldn't be trolling and that is how they get their kicks.
Just do what most of us do and don't pay any attention to them and they'll just slink away. They are good for comic relief.

Fine advice.

Unfortunately, your 50 posts in this thread, nearly all of them OT, lead to the conclusion that you are not among those that follow that advice. Your protests that your debate partners are trolls are difficult to take seriously given the facts that you fired the first shot and continued with personal attacks in many of your subsequent posts.

It would be great if you would simply follow your own advice and allow this thread to get back on topic.

[xmas1997]

Fine advice.

Unfortunately, your 50 posts in this thread, nearly all of them OT, lead to the conclusion that you are not among those that follow that advice. Your protests that your debate partners are trolls are difficult to take seriously given the facts that you fired the first shot and continued with personal attacks in many of your subsequent posts.

It would be great if you would simply follow your own advice and allow this thread to get back on topic.

Your advice is well taken. I thought of that very thing many times but couldn't resist correcting them.
However, I stand corrected myself. I am not too proud or dense headed not to admit when I've gone wrong. My bad.

[Skull-1]

Yo Skull, which places do you normally watch games?


In the Valley, Wings and Rings by the EBG hospital.

[TE]

In the Valley, Wings and Rings by the EBG hospital.

Edinburg Regional hospital?

[boutons_deux]

might find a couple day trips here:

http://thedaytripper.com/

[Skull-1]

Edinburg Regional hospital?


I think so. The new one. Close to 281.

[xmas1997]

Now that I've put them on my ignore list, I miss laughing at their childish juvenile attempts at trying to put me down, as well as correcting their wild ignorant narrow minded posts.
Go figure! They really were comic relief in their pitiful efforts at sarcasm.
I may reinstate those three trolls.
:lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Congratulations on planning your pilgrimage, hsxvvd! You are adding to a strong ST tradition started by Jurgen in 2002 and 2005 (IIRC?), and then me in 2003 and 2007. :D

[hsxvvd]

Congratulations on planning your pilgrimage, hsxvvd! You are adding to a strong ST tradition started by Jurgen in 2002 and 2005 (IIRC?), and then me in 2003 and 2007. :D

03, 05 & 07... You need to head back, them good years. ... I can only hope I bring the same luck.

As a fellow aussie who made the trip twice, you got any advice?

On another note when is yahoo going to get this fantasy up and running.... I need redemption.

[Skull-1]

Now that I've put them on my ignore list, I miss laughing at their childish juvenile attempts at trying to put me down, as well as correcting their wild ignorant narrow minded posts.
Go figure! They really were comic relief in their pitiful efforts at sarcasm.
I may reinstate those three trolls.
:lol


Looks like the little boy is whistling past the graveyard, still, TE. LOL

Sounds like he is trying to reassure himself.

[xmas1997]

03, 05 & 07... You need to head back, them good years. ... I can only hope I bring the same luck.

As a fellow aussie who made the trip twice, you got any advice?

On another note when is yahoo going to get this fantasy up and running.... I need redemption.

Besides bringing a little luck, bring a little rain with you when you come, we could use it.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

03, 05 & 07... You need to head back, them good years. ... I can only hope I bring the same luck.

As a fellow aussie who made the trip twice, you got any advice?

On another note when is yahoo going to get this fantasy up and running.... I need redemption.

Lemme think about that and I'll get back to you. :)

[hsxvvd]

Lemme think about that and I'll get back to you. :)

Yahoo is up. Let's get the band back together!

[xmas1997]

Looks like the Rio Grande Valley is going to get some major rainfall next week from tropical storm Ingred.

[alamo50]

Congratulations on planning your pilgrimage, hsxvvd! You are adding to a strong ST tradition started by Jurgen in 2002 and 2005 (IIRC?)

Traveled from The Netherlands to the US 8 times in 6 years to attend the following Spurs games:

'00-'01 Regular season @ New Jersey
'01-'02 Regular season @ Warriors
'01-'02 Playoffs Rounds 1 & 2 home games vs. Seattle & Fakers
'02'-03 Regular season home games vs. Cavs, Fakers, Grizz and Seattle
'02-'03 Playoffs all home games and away games @ Fakers & .allas (including championship celebrations @ Riverwalk and Alamodome)
'03-'04 Regular season home games vs. Suns (Ring presentation), Knicks, cHeat, Fakers, .allas & Jazz (the day before attended D-Rob's Retirement Gala and after the game D-Rob's jersey Retirement Ceremony)
'04-'05 Playoffs Rounds 1 & 2 home games vs. Denver & Seattle
('06-'07 Pre-Season game @ Paris)
'06-'07 Playoffs Rounds 1 & 2 home games vs. Denver & Suns

[xmas1997]

When you're here in San Antonio and ready to try some of the best Mexican food in the world which is one of the things San Antonio is world famous for, then let me know and I, and others on here, will give you some tips on some of the best places to go, and I promise not to steer you wrong because I am a connoisseur of TexMex and other foods.

[exstatic]

Definitely no reason to buy a parking pass beforehand. I always park in the lots furthest from the AT&T center because they are the cheapest. Like $8.00 I think. Even considering you have to walk back there, always seems like I get out of the parking lot in around 15 minutes. They have their shit down directing traffic out of that place.

Werd. Lot 8, FTW.

[TE]

Looks like the Rio Grande Valley is going to get some major rainfall next week from tropical storm Ingred.
Its rained everyday the last 6 days. Its gotten outright ridiculous. We were under a scorching drought. That's all but gone after this entire week.

Now with the new tropical system emerging in the Gulf. We might get additional rain that we otherwise didn't need.