Who would you take right now, Roy Hibbert or Dwight Howard?

[Donkeybong]

?

[Arnold Toht]

Quite frankly, Howard.

[Leon Black]

Hibbert. At least with him I know he won't quit on his team

[spurraider21]

Right now? Howard. Hibbert is coming off a season where he put up 12-8 on 45% shooting.

[Koolaid_Man]

?

the league is fucked if those are my best options...at this point Rimmy is still better than both....and that's a got dam shame :lol

[Leon Black]

the league is fucked if those are my best options...at this point Rimmy is still better than both....and that's a got dam shame :lol

shut up pussy nigga

[SPM]

I'm a fanuc

[CitizenDwayne]

Right now? Howard. Hibbert is coming off a season where he put up 12-8 on 45% shooting.

Pretty much.

The guy's good, but has anyone ever before got this kind of attention putting up these numbers?

[OKC]

The one who doesn't behave like a 12 year old girl.

[Koolaid_Man]

shut up pussy nigga

yes I am the pussy man :lol

[LkrFan]

Hibbert and it ain't even close. You can't teach 7'2"

[spurraider21]

Hibbert and it ain't even close. You can't teach 7'2"

damn right! take that 12-8 on 45% shooting to the bank!

[RsxPiimp]

Hibbert tbqfh.

here's why.

1. no drama
2. acts and plays like a man
3. can actually score in the post
4. bigger
5. not a technical foul machine
6. not a bible thumping hypocrite
7. has a likeable personality
8. old school
9. can do attitude
10. Can shoot his ft's

[Clipper Nation]

Hibbert based on potential and better work ethic, tbh.... neither one is particularly appealing, though....

[Michael Jordan.]

Hibbert and it ain't even close. You can't teach 7'2"

It ain't even close? The Begging says different

[spurraider21]

Hibbert based on potential and better work ethic, tbh.... neither one is particularly appealing, though....

Thread title says "right now" not talking about potential or 5 years down the line, tbh

[RsxPiimp]

Thread title says "right now" not talking about potential or 5 years down the line, tbh

cn is still right. right now, hibbert is still the wiser pick

dwight is less explosive, with a bad back. what makes it worse is the guy has the same offensive skills 9 yrs ago and is an even worst ft shooter

[RsxPiimp]

Thread title says "right now" not talking about potential or 5 years down the line, tbh

cn is still right. right now, hibbert is still the wiser pick

dwight is less explosive, with a bad back. what makes it worse is the guy has the same offensive skills 9 yrs ago and is an even worst ft shooter

[spurraider21]

hibbert is coming off a season where he averaged 12 and 8 on 45% shooting from the field. there is no argument as to who is the better player right now

[Michael Jordan.]

cn is still right. right now, hibbert is still the wiser pick

dwight is less explosive, with a bad back. what makes it worse is the guy has the same offensive skills 9 yrs ago and is an even worst ft shooter

Averaged 17-12 on that bad back. Defense was terrible without him on the floor.

[spurraider21]

lets ask ambchang for win share stats tbh

[Katherine Robinson]

If you have a terrible team, you pick Howard. If you have a good team that needs a true center, you pick Hibbert.

[DMC]

Quite frankly, Howard.

You'd like to have him back, wouldn't ya!

[DMC]

hibbert is coming off a season where he averaged 12 and 8 on 45% shooting from the field. there is no argument as to who is the better player right now

Offensive stats don't identify a good center. Not having 7 bastards helps.

[RsxPiimp]

Averaged 17-12 on that bad back. Defense was terrible without him on the floor.

not denying his talent or impact. winning a title is like picking the right partner in marriage. dwight plays the more attractive broad but she comes with a lot of drama and baggage, she's all about looking good and havin fun and blames everyone but herself when she fails to do the most basic thing for the fam. She's a good trophy wife but a miserable housewife. She also costs more to keep, fickl minded and divorce is her 1st option not last.

hibbert is a bit less attractive but he does everything s bit well and knows how to keep everything together when the going gets tough. there's balance. She's not self absorbed which is a good thing because this means she puts you and the family before herself.


now of course some people may get lucky. they pick a mail order bride (olajuwon) who is loyal and does everything exceptionally well:lol

[spurraider21]

Offensive stats don't identify a good center. Not having 7 bastards helps.

dwight also the better rebounder, defender of the 2

[The Franchise]

?

Nigga please! :lmao

[thunderup]

Hibbert based on potential and better work ethic, tbh.... neither one is particularly appealing, though....

Like you would have Dmonkey Jordan over these two.

:lol shitty takes

[LkrFan]

damn right! take that 12-8 on 45% shooting to the bank!

That's one side of the ball son. He is a great anchor and a much better offensive weapon than those numbers suggest.

BTW, in the playoffs against the champs (the barometer for which all teams will be measured), the Pacers finally figured out how to use him:

Game 1: 19 points (9-18 FGAs); 9 rebs; 2 swats
Game 2: 29 points (10-15 FGAs); 10 rebs
Game 3: 20 points (4-12 FGAs, 12-15 FTAs); 17 rebs; 2 swats
Game 4: 23 points (10-16 FGAs); 12 rebs
Game 5: 22 points (8-14 FGAs); 6 rebs; 2 swats
Game 6: 24 points (11-20 FGAs); 11 rebs; 1 swat (elimination game)
Game 7: 18 points (7-11 FGAs); 8 rebs
Totals: 22 ppg (on 55.6%), 9 rebs; 1 bpg. Source (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400466600)

Not to mention his size (pause, for you faggots) must be accounted for on both sides of the court. Miami (back to back champs) had issues with him all series. If their guards were competent, his above numbers would spike. You think that it is a mere coincidence that they are going after Oden? Like I said, I'd take him over Howard in a heartbeat. The one bad game he had shooting wise (game 3) he hit 80% of his FTAs. Howard can only dream of that. We'll agree to disagree.

[spurraider21]

I don't think one playoff series is enough. Good starting point, but Howard is heads and shoulders above him over the course of a season

[TDMVPDPOY]

hibbert is fkn good, he needs more touches though...dont like it how PG loves to dribble down the court and pull up without any hesitation cause theres not a shot he wouldnt take....

[Rogue]

Hibbert is already playing at a similar level to DH and he's still improving, while DH is declining. Hibbert is a better team player and he was one of the main reasons why the pacers could make the conference finals last season and managed drag the Heat to 7 games. It would've been a hard choice between DH and Cousins who also has a douchebag personality just like DH, but choosing Hibert over the washed-up Dwight is a no-brainer imho.

[DMC]

The Pacers were close to beating the Heat just as the Spurs were. The Lakers, not so much.

[ElNono]

Never been high on Hibbert, but Dwight just isn't really interested in basketball, tbh... so by default Roy it is.

[Arnold Toht]

You'd like to have him back, wouldn't ya!

Sure. I'm the only Laker fan on this board that wanted him back, too.

[spurraider21]

Sure. I'm the only Laker fan on this board that wanted him back, too.

finally figured ur identity out

351713481847869443

makes sense with the mavs monicker and the german avatar. misses dirk/mavs

[StrengthAndHonor]

Its Dwight. Talk to me if Hibbert can lead Turkoglu and Jameer to the Finals.

[TDMVPDPOY]

give me the guy that actually has a post game and attempts to block shots

the other just camps and most of his blocks are fkn goal tending

[Arnold Toht]

Its Dwight. Talk to me if Hibbert can lead Turkoglu and Jameer to the Finals.

Nelson was injured while Howard was busy curb-stomping James on his own. Then, when his teammates started to decline, Howard put up 23&14 on 59% shooting, including 48 in a fucking playoff game. S. Van Gundy is right, 30 out of 30 GMs would take Dwight Howard.

[spurraider21]

^Nazi

[HarlemHeat37]

NBA fans follow the "what have you done for me lately?" reasoning more than any other sports fans, tbh..

Howard had a great 2nd half of the season with an incompetent coach and a cancerous player taking most of the shots on the team, but fans remember the media narrative(mostly to protect Kobe, obviously), along with the Spurs sweep of the Lakers' D-League squad, tbh..fans also remember Hibbert having a dominant series against a team with no frontcourt and poor coaching..once Miami finally began fronting and swarming Hibbert(Spoelstra couldn't figure it out until game 7:lol), he looked rather pedestrian, tbh..

[AchillesHeel]

I'll take the one who led his team to the Finals this year


so..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBbm2gNt4Mg

[ambchang]

lets ask ambchang for win share stats tbh

Much obliged.

As horribly as Howard perceivably played last year, he had a WS of 7.6, and ws/48 of .134.

Roy Hibbert, with pretty much a career year, had 6.1 and .129.

Given that Dwight will actually be getting passes in the low post this year, I am guessing his OWS will go back somewhere closer to his Orlando days than the LAL days, adding another 1 or 2 WS. His defense will likely stay the same, because frankly, McHale is not much better of a defensive coach than MDT.

However, we have to put some caveats here, Howard is an alpha talent, Hibbert is a role player. WS for role players don't really compare that well amongst each other because if a player excels in his role, he will have a high WS. We saw that will Laimbeer, and to an extent Billups in their careers. Players like Howard can have teams and system built around him, so his winshares reflect his true value to a team.

[ambchang]

One more thing, people look at Hibbert against Miami and thinks he is some kind of God. Let's face it, Miami can defend big man for a couple of short spurts because of their speed and athleticism, but can't do it consistently due to lack of size. Hibbert scored at least 18 points a game in every single game vs. Miami last year in the playoffs. He had two other games in the entire playoffs. Rebounding tells a similar story.

And Hibbert was not an aberation, Duncan, at 37 years old, had his playoff high of 30/17 in game 7, and also another 20/10 game in the same series. He had only one other 20/10 in the entire playoffs.

D12 is about 10x the talent of Hibbert. I admire Hibbert's heart and work ethic, but at of now, D12 is about a mile ahead in terms of talent, there really isn't any serious comparisons.

[LnGrrrR]

Hibbert because Howard is a bitch. #metrics

[Clipper Nation]

Like you would have Dmonkey Jordan over these two.

:lol shitty takes
Of course I'd take both over DeContract, but that's irrelevant to the thread....

:lol Reaching
:lol Durant leaving Methlahoma ASAP
:lol RefKC choosing between Perkins and Steven Adams

[Arnold Toht]

Of course I'd take both over DeContract, but that's irrelevant to the thread....

:lol Reaching
:lol Durant leaving Methlahoma ASAP

^ Making your own troll to feed on your reputation.

[Clipper Nation]

^ 1-time champ falsely accusing a 13-time champ, tbh....

[Arnold Toht]

^ not a single banner :lol

[Clipper Nation]

^ not a single win against the Spurs last year.... Swept :lol

[Arnold Toht]

^ :lol backdoor swept and on the King James wagon and now finally landed on the 6 wagon

[Clipper Nation]

^ on the 1-timer and Frontdoor Swept wagons :lol

[thunderup]

:lol Clipper Nation is on all the bandwagons nowadays

:lol Just how the fuck does he do it?!

[spurraider21]

Anybody who seriously thinks Hibbert is currently the better player is extremely salty. Hibbert is coming off a 12-8 season on kobe-level inefficiency (from a freakin 7'2 center). They like him because he had a good series against Miami... who has no big man. Freakin Vucevic had two separate 20-20 games against that same frontcourt. Dwight prematurely came back from back surgery, played through a torn labrum, and still was playing good ball. Dwight is the better defender, rebounder of the two and has superior offensive numbers as well, minus free throw shooting.

[Arnold Toht]

Anybody who seriously thinks Hibbert is currently the better player is extremely salty. Hibbert is coming off a 12-8 season on kobe-level inefficiency (from a freakin 7'2 center). They like him because he had a good series against Miami... who has no big man. Freakin Vucevic had two separate 20-20 games against that same frontcourt. Dwight prematurely came back from back surgery, played through a torn labrum, and still was playing good ball. Dwight is the better defender, rebounder of the two and has superior offensive numbers as well, minus free throw shooting.

Go back to where you belong. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=37

[JohnnyMax]

Roy Hibbert also destroyed the Knicks and blocked Carmelo alot of times

Forced Lebron to practice floaters to avoid getting blocked

[Brazil]

Howard of course

[Arnold Toht]

Forced Lebron to practice floaters to avoid getting blocked

And yet, Howard beat LeBron in the playoffs. With 40&16 in the closing game, while LeBron quit.

[irishock]

Seems like AT wants Howard back :lol

he took the rejection pretty hard