2013 FIBA Americas Championship (with Cory Joseph)

[Rito3d30]

17pts 8rb 10ast 2st

:worthy::worthy::worthy:

Not much improvement on his jumper though:depressed

[cd98]

Unless he was beating Usain Bolt down the court not much to brag about in having a big line against Jamaica.

[dylankerouac]

Very nice.

[playblair]

cojos j >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nandos j....................................

given pt during the upcoming season cojos shot will appear..........................................

[ceperez]

cojos j >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nandos j....................................

given pt during the upcoming season cojos shot will appear..........................................

Still waiting... however he did play good defense in the playoffs.

[Mayhem321]

http://firstrownow.eu/watch/204981/1/watch-brazil-vs-canada.html he's playing now... seven points in 5 minutes

[Mayhem321]

Cojo is playing really well .12 points in the first quarter, he is hitting his outside shots

[Bruno]

I've renamed the thread to follow Joseph through that competition here.

Official website of that Championship:
http://www.caracas2013.com/en/default.asp?lang=en

[Rito3d30]

another great performance by CJ:flag:

[Mayhem321]

Brazil played as bad as I ever seen, Cojo was really bad guarded. 28 points 9 rebounds 4 assists and 3 steals for Joseph completely dominated the game

[elemento]

As a Spurs fan I couldn't be happier with Cojo. He is destroying Brazil and he is playing against a good PG (Huertas)

As a Brazilian I must say this team sucks ! Defensively they're pathetic and offensively they simply lack fundamentals. They're truly missing the NBA stars.

[Axegrinder]

Good line for CJ no doubt

[Bruno]

That's some great stats against Brazil who is a relatively good team. Joseph has started slow this summer with Canada but, despite a bad game yesterday against Puerto Rico, he has put some impressive games lately.

[TD 21]

Brazil is missing Nene, Varejao, Splitter, Barbosa, Faverani and Vinicius. As a sign of how little they thought of Joseph's scoring ability, they had Huertas, not Garcia (their best perimeter defender) guard him, despite the fact that Canada lacks anyone else even remotely capable of breaking the defense down.

I've watched Joseph play five times for Canada this summer and he hasn't just shot poorly from the perimeter, he's been thoroughly disappointing in almost every aspect. With Canada missing a lot of their front line talent/depth (Wiggins, Bennett, Olynyk, English, Kabongo, K. Joseph, Sacre), they've really needed him to not only be their primary creator, but to score too and he's failed miserably on both counts.

[ceperez]

Brazil is missing Nene, Varejao, Splitter, Barbosa, Faverani and Vinicius. As a sign of how little they thought of Joseph's scoring ability, they had Huertas, not Garcia (their best perimeter defender) guard him, despite the fact that Canada lacks anyone else even remotely capable of breaking the defense down.

I've watched Joseph play five times for Canada this summer and he hasn't just shot poorly from the perimeter, he's been thoroughly disappointing in almost every aspect. With Canada missing a lot of their front line talent/depth (Wiggins, Bennett, Olynyk, English, Kabongo, K. Joseph, Sacre), they've really needed him to not only be their primary creator, but to score too and he's failed miserably on both counts.

But, but... 28 points, 9 rebounds isn't good enough for you?

[TD 21]

But, but... 28 points, 9 rebounds isn't good enough for you?

I'm talking about the five games overall. This one was the exception, not the rule, meaning it was probably law of averages more than anything, helped by the fact that a poor defender was guarding him.

Just realized I forgot about him, but add Melo to the list of players Brazil is missing . . . in general, there's a lot of NBA players not playing in this tournament.

[racm]

If anything Joseph shows he's a great rebounder for a PG.

[hooperflash]

Good stuff, looks poised.

[ace3g]

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/08/85/83/38Xcll8KvbKc/

Canada is playing Uruguay right now

[spurs10]

Looks like another solid game for CJ!

[Vash StampedE]

Cory's game saying, "Please put off any discussion about who will be the back-up PG of my NBA team."

[TD 21]

Despite the less gaudier raw numbers, he was even better against Uruguay than he was against Brazil. I realize Uruguay aren't exactly world beaters, but still, this was the best I've ever seen him play. He basically looked like a lesser version of Parker.

Hopefully, he maintains that level of offensive aggressiveness and assertiveness going forward in the tournament, boosts his confidence in the process and carries it into the season.

[ace3g]

http://www.fibaamericas.com/files/fotos/0AEB192F077646FB97E5EC3956531504.jpg

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000WV8sB3FFoYw/s/1200/960/5-C-Joseph-6.jpg

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000VgIJMrK5mJ8/s/1200/960/5-C-Joseph-2.jpg

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000zKtJL6tn2ic/s/1200/960/5-C-Joseph-4.jpg

[hooperflash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf_HwdnoEHM

[J_Paco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf_HwdnoEHM

FlashZo, since you are our resident sneakerhead, what are those kicks that Corey Joseph is sporting? Are they available and do they come in Spurs' colors?

Side-note: Not enough CoJo highlights for my liking.

[hooperflash]

FlashZo, since you are our resident sneakerhead, what are those kicks that Corey Joseph is sporting? Are they available and do they come in Spurs' colors?

2013 Nike Hyperdunks, you can get them in Spurs Black/Silver(Pictured Below) or Spurs Fiesta colors (NIKE iD)

Sorry for the mobile links but I'm at the movies lol
http://m.footlocker.com/_-_/keyword-nike+hyperdunk
http://m.finishline.com//store/product/men-s-nike-hyperdunk-2013-basketball-shoes-?categoryId=cat20009&productId=prod725499

http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/nike_hyperdunk_2013_01.jpg

[ElNono]

Haven't been keeping track of the tournament much, but glad to see Corey's progression...

[ace3g]

Canada plays Mexico in about an hour

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/08/89/71/14EQQhj3R1Wyc/

[Vash StampedE]

http://www.fibaamericas.com/files/fotos/0AEB192F077646FB97E5EC3956531504.jpg

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000WV8sB3FFoYw/s/1200/960/5-C-Joseph-6.jpg

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000VgIJMrK5mJ8/s/1200/960/5-C-Joseph-2.jpg

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000zKtJL6tn2ic/s/1200/960/5-C-Joseph-4.jpg
He looks in tip-top shape. Really hope he continues his impressive play and stays healthy. We'll definitely need him next season.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Corey played great in the 1st half, 2nd half he had some turnovers though and it took him a bit too long to get into the offense. Still rebounded and defended well.

[ace3g]

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[barakz21]

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C. JOSEPH (http://webcast-a.live.sportingpulse.com/matches/18/08/89/71/14EQQhj3R1Wyc//index.html#)
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I notice he tends to turn the ball over a lot. Well, when he's got extended pt, that is. Anyway, what do you think of it? Does it seem like he's forcing stuff a bit, or does he need to improve his handles, or is it because of his teammates not being at the right spots?

[playblair]

I notice he tends to turn the ball over a lot. Well, when he's got extended pt, that is. Anyway, what do you think of it? Does it seem like he's forcing stuff a bit, or does he need to improve his handles, or is it because of his teammates not being at the right spots?

nah cojos to numbers are misleading ................... cojos turnovers are usually the result of his teammates........................

[barakz21]

"word....... cojo>>>>>nando>>>>>>Patty" right?

[Bruno]

With Joseph playing that well, Canada light qualify for the World Cup next summer. They need to finish in the top 4 of that competition to do that.

Renaldo Balkman is also putting great stats with Puerto Rico. He was a decent NBA player few years ago and he could be a nice small ball PF for Spurs.

[ace3g]

With Joseph playing that well, Canada light qualify for the World Cup next summer. They need to finish in the top 4 of that competition to do that.

Renaldo Balkman is also putting great stats with Puerto Rico. He was a decent NBA player few years ago and he could be a nice small ball PF for Spurs.


Yeah everyone is talking about Balkman, although he is shooting a high percentage and rebounding well, doesn't really have a jumper and he isn't that quick anymore.

[barakz21]

Yeah everyone is talking about Balkman, although he is shooting a high percentage and rebounding well, doesn't really have a jumper and he isn't that quick anymore.

I don't think Balkman's gonna be a good fit on the Spurs. He played as in import in the Philippines early this year or late last year, and he ended up getting banned. Dude was arguing with the refs, and when one of his teammates tried to pacify him, Balkman turned on him and went for a choke hold. That screams anti spur to, seems like.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a11MN4M8QI4

[mrjap2x]

"It might have been easy to overlook Joseph’s contributions on this afternoon with Rautins (19) and Heslip (21) putting on a show from long range in the second half, but Canada stayed in this contest because of Joseph’s aggressive play and the young guard finished with 17 points on 6-12 shooting, 8 rebounds and 6 assists. The FIBA Americas tournament has been quite the coming out party for the Spurs backup point guard."
http://probballreport.com/cory-joseph-leads-canada-past-mexico/

[xmas1997]

"It might have been easy to overlook Joseph’s contributions on this afternoon with Rautins (19) and Heslip (21) putting on a show from long range in the second half, but Canada stayed in this contest because of Joseph’s aggressive play and the young guard finished with 17 points on 6-12 shooting, 8 rebounds and 6 assists. The FIBA Americas tournament has been quite the coming out party for the Spurs backup point guard."
http://probballreport.com/cory-joseph-leads-canada-past-mexico/

Glad to hear this news.

[ace3g]

Canada vs Venezuela is about to start

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/08/89/76/43IxuxwQ1W4Y/

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Cory is a bit trigger happy so far, but his defense has been great imo

[Robz4000]

Looking at the boxscore it looks like foul trouble is going to doom Canada. CJ doesn't seem to be playing all that well either.

[ace3g]

The NBA on ESPN @ESPNNBA
(http://twitter.com/ESPNNBA)After trailing by as many as 14, Canada is down just 3 with 2:34 left against Venezuela. Tune in now! es.pn/1cQgwbf (http://t.co/XTmKA7B3Mp)

[TD 21]

He wasn't nearly as good as the past three games, but as always, he played with maximum intensity and along with Thompson, nearly willed Canada to a win, in a game they had no business winning.

[ace3g]

Link for Canada vs Dominican Republic

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/08/89/81/27tcpvos3GN7w/

[xmas1997]

I'm pleasantly pleased wit Cojo so far. He might be one of the keys to them making it back to the finals if he keeps improving. Pop will need to play him more so he can gain some confidence.

[Mayhem321]

Canada's game just started http://firstrownow.eu/watch/205865/1/watch-dominican-republic-vs-canada.html

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

The Dominican team can't handle the Canadians.

[Mayhem321]

I have a feeling Canada will dominate America's championships for a long time if they convince their young players to play in the summers. :depressed
Anyway CJ had 6 points in the first half

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

NVM, Canada went full autism.

[Chinook]

Is Joseph hurt or something?

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Is Joseph hurt or something?
Picked up his second foul pretty early in the 2nd quarter

[Chinook]

Makes sense, thanks. I just started watching around then.

[Mayhem321]

http://firstrownow.eu/watch/206266/1/watch-canada-vs-argentina.html last game of the summer for Joseph 7 points in the first 4 minutes

[ace3g]

stats for Canada vs Argentina

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/08/89/84/93J1ln7B1ND/

[xmas1997]

stats for Canada vs Argentina

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/08/89/84/93J1ln7B1ND/

Cojo continues to surprise me with his offensive production, he is high scorer so far. I always liked his defense.
Pop really needs to trust and use him more. Hope we see it. He just needs consistent playing time IMHO.

[Mayhem321]

Well, CJ didn't score a single point after a put the link here... so Im guessing I jinxed him :lol

[ElNono]

ARG flopping like crazy... good game so far considering it's for all the marbles...

CJ been hitting timely shots.

[ElNono]

Capt Scrubla delivering the qualification for ARG... only watched this game, and that's an awful team...

CJ played well... didn't like his D much, but he can shoot

[ace3g]

http://webcast-a.live.sportingpulse.com/pics/06/55/18.CAN.285101370952185.png
Canada











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C. JOSEPH (http://webcast-a.live.sportingpulse.com/matches/18/08/89/84/93J1ln7B1ND//index.html#)
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[Mayhem321]

Canada lost and is out of the 2014 world championship. Joseph had a great tournament though, IMO he was the second best point guard just behind Barea. CJ's today statline: 19 pts 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

And yeah Argentina was flooping really hard, Canada got like 5 offensive fouls called in the second half

[xmas1997]

Capt Scrubla delivering the qualification for ARG... only watched this game, and that's an awful team...

CJ played well... didn't like his D much, but he can shoot


Canada lost and is out of the 2014 world championship. Joseph had a great tournament though, IMO he was the second best point guard just behind Barea. CJ's today statline: 19 pts 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

And yeah Argentina was flooping really hard, Canada got like 5 offensive fouls called in the second half

It seems one game he shows defense and the next offense.
One thing he does show is promise. He needs more consistency in both areas.

[mrjap2x]

Canada lost and is out of the 2014 world championship. Joseph had a great tournament though, IMO he was the second best point guard just behind Barea. CJ's today statline: 19 pts 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

And yeah Argentina was flooping really hard, Canada got like 5 offensive fouls called in the second half

There is still a wild card tournament next year.

[Mel_13]

There is still a wild card tournament next year.

The four wild cards are selected by FIBA, with the teams to be announced in December.

[ace3g]

regarding Balkman

jean marco ‏@jeanmarcoward (https://twitter.com/jeanmarcoward) Miami Heat, los Lakers y su antiguo equipo, New York Knicks, figuran entre los 8 equipos de la NBA que están tras Renaldo Balkman.

Basically 7-8 teams interested in Balkman

[velik_m]

The four wild cards are selected by FIBA, with the teams to be announced in December.

Wild cards are such a bush league move by FIBA...

[DAF86]

Argentina should have lost so that Cojo could have got in. Argentina was a lock to get a Wild card, Canada is a lock not to.

P/S: Argentina's basketball overacheiving per par.

[Bruno]

Canada had the level to qualify for the 2014 WC but they really lack of experience especially inside where Nicholson and Thompson were so gullible. Future looks great for them.

For Argentina, I'm still amazed on how they have no youth at all. They will be so bad in a few years.

[Mayhem321]

Canada had the level to qualify for the 2014 WC but they really lack of experience especially inside where Nicholson and Thompson were so gullible. Future looks great for them.

For Argentina, I'm still amazed on how they have no youth at all. They will be so bad in a few years.
That's true and Brazil isn't much better, We basically only have Lucas Nogueira and Raul Neto (both drafted this year). That's why I think Canada will dominate America's basketball for the foreseeable future

[mrjap2x]

The four wild cards are selected by FIBA, with the teams to be announced in December.
Do you think Canada has a chance to be chosen?

[Phenomanul]

Surprise Mexican team... Probably lose tomorrow against Argentina... But still made a good run...

[racm]

Canada had the level to qualify for the 2014 WC but they really lack of experience especially inside where Nicholson and Thompson were so gullible. Future looks great for them.

For Argentina, I'm still amazed on how they have no youth at all. They will be so bad in a few years.

Once the golden generation hang up their sneakers they'll be barely a blip on the FIBA radar. Canada's stock is rising, though. 2 top 5 picks in three years, and Wiggins is currently slated as a top pick next year.

[racm]

Surprise Mexican team... Probably lose tomorrow against Argentina... But still made a good run...

Ayon's a decent player.

[Mel_13]

Do you think Canada has a chance to be chosen?

Small chance. I'd expect at least three of the wild cards to come from Europe.

[elemento]

Cory as a scorer has developed well, but he needs to improve his game as a play-maker. He looks great when his shot is on, but he looks awful when he is not scoring. That's the part of the game he needs to develop the most.

[DAF86]

Argentina will be fine, of course not at the Golden generation level fine but fine as in most of its history: top 2 / top 3 in South America fighting with good chances to get into WC's and Olympic games.

[Bruno]

That's true and Brazil isn't much better, We basically only have Lucas Nogueira and Raul Neto (both drafted this year). That's why I think Canada will dominate America's basketball for the foreseeable future

Splitter isn't that old and there are other bigmen like Vitor Faverani or even Fab Melo (if he gets it). Now, it's true that Brazil lacks of perimeter players.

[Mayhem321]

Splitter isn't that old and there are other bigmen like Vitor Faverani or even Fab Melo (if he gets it). Now, it's true that Brazil lacks of perimeter players.
I really don't believe Fab will ever get it together, Faverani never played in the National team he refused to play last three summers so I dont know if the coach will keep calling him. Splitter really seems to like to play for the NT though he wasn't happy with the comments of the coach following this tournament.

[MmP]

I really don't believe Fab will ever get it together, Faverani never played in the National team he refused to play last three summers so I dont know if the coach will keep calling him. Splitter really seems to like to play for the NT though he wasn't happy with the comments of the coach following this tournament.
What did he say about Magnano?

[Mayhem321]

What did he say about Magnano?
He didn't say anything directly to Magnano, but After Brazil got eliminated Magnano gave interviews kind of blaming Brazil shortcomings on the NBA players that didn't show up. After that Splitter tweeted somethings like "Some people said that the blame was on the players that didn't show up" and remembering all the times he played while injuried or when his sister was sick. So by the context I think he wasn't very pleased with Ruben.

EDIT: Another quote of Splitter's twitter "Defeat is where we know best and never any of us pointed the finger at the other"

[elemento]

Magnano complained because some of the NBA players said they would play, but in the end all of them refused to play. I mean, he was counting with them from the beginning, he calls them, they say they will play, but in the end none of them are there to play.

Magnano is absolutely right to complain. Splitter has always played for the NT (even in bad situations as Mayhem321 said), but if he did not have the intention to play, he should have said it from the beginning. The same can be said about Varejao, Nene, Barbosa and the rest.

[Mayhem321]

I agree he has the right to be upset but complaining about it publicly wasn't a smart move since the NT without them isn't good enough to win against fucking Jamaica. Also, Barbosa and Varejao were really injured but Magnano threw all of them under the bus. I think Magnano was used to the crazy argentinians that never refuse to play.

[ace3g]

Bruno and others what are your opinions on Donta Smith, who played for Venezuela

http://www.caracas2013.com/en/jugador.asp?r=60077&c=VEN&n=Venezuela&team=383

David Pick @IAmDPick
(http://twitter.com/IAmDPick)Via team webpage, @MaccabiHaifa (http://twitter.com/MaccabiHaifa) have stripped Donta Smith (@DontaSmith (http://twitter.com/DontaSmith)) from its roster: mhbasket.co.il/News.asp?id=19… (http://t.co/rUH3nhjxlR) pic.twitter.com/zlQcL8i3Pt (http://t.co/zlQcL8i3Pt)

David Pick (big fan of Donta) has been mentioning his name a bit during FIBA Americas, he doesn't specify if Donta off the roster is from him signing with another team, etc.

I believe he was on the Spurs 2006 Summer League roster.

[Bruno]

Bruno and others what are your opinions on Donta Smith, who played for Venezuela


He isn't especially long, is a poor shooter and isn't a great defender so he is pretty much the exact opposite of the kind of players should go after.

[jyra]

This might make it sound it like he is really old, he is 29, but I have read about him in a book (Brave Dragons, interesting read about some of the strange things that happen in chinese basketball). An interesting player because of his playmaking and rebounding skills as a wing. His unselfishness made him stand out in the Chinese league where import players are usually just asked to put up great stats by recklessly gunning for baskets.
His shooting numbers don't look too promising though. Last year in Isreal he just shot 29.5% from three on 78 attempts and his FIBA Americas numbers are even worse.

[ace3g]

Mexico beat Argentina in the first semifinal 76-70

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/08/95/31/96EWpWXvErQPQ/

[ace3g]

Puerto Rico beat Dominican Republic 79-67; apparently Francisco Garcia got hurt in 1st quarter for DR

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/08/95/30/65QIAqcwx2LJU/

[ace3g]

Final is going on now: PR vs Mexico

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/08/97/22/30PjbILabx6is/

[podesta]

Campazzo 22 years old from Argentina 31 points 11 assists , the new TP

[DAF86]

If Campazzo was a little bit taller he could be NBA material.

[ace3g]

Mexico beat PR for the Gold Medal

[PlayNando]

cojos j >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nandos j....................................

given pt during the upcoming season cojos shot will appear..........................................
gtfo

cojo sux nandos french deck per par

[PlayNando]

Mexico beat PR for the Gold Medal
wut a joke of a turnament tbh

[PlayNando]

If Campazzo was a little bit taller he could be NBA material.
he IS spurs material

international intelligence

[PlayNando]

lol at praising cojo cuz he put up ok stats in this joke of a turnament :lol

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vr9j_0vvuk