Another liberal law requiring Kindergarten student to learn homosexual sex eduucation

[apalisoc_9]

(CNSNews.com) - The Chicago Public Schools this year are mandating that the district’s kindergarten classes include sex education, fulfilling a proposal President Barack Obama supported in 2003 when he served in the Illinois state senate and later defended when he ran for president in the 2008 election cycle.

At a Planned Parenthood convention at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Washington, D.C., on July 17, 2007, a teenage girl who said she worked as a sex-education “peer educator” in the D.C. public schools asked then-U.S. Sen. Obama what he would do to encourage the teaching of “medically accurate, age-appropriate, and responsible sex education.”

Obama first noted that he had worked with Planned Parenthood to push a sex education bill when he served in the Illinois state legislature.

Then he said: “I remember Alan Keyes—I ran against Alan Keyes—but I remember him using this in his campaign against me, saying, ‘Barack Obama supports teaching sex education to kindergartners.

“And you know,” said Obama, “I didn’t know what to tell him. But it is the right thing to do, to provide age-appropriate sex education, science-based sex education in the schools.”

ABCNews.com published a story about what Obama told Planned Parenthood. It carried the headline: “Sex Ed for Kindergartners ‘Right Thing to Do,’ Says Obama.”

To explain Obama’s position further to ABC News, Obama’s campaign pointed to an Oct. 6, 2004 story in the Chicago Daily Herald about a speech Obama had given at a Catholic college in Illinois. This story carried the headline: “Obama clarifies sex ed views at Benedictine.”

"Nobody's suggesting that kindergartners are going to be getting information about sex in the way that we think about it,” Obama is quoted as telling the children. "If they ask a teacher 'where do babies come from,' that providing information that the fact is that it's not a stork is probably not an unhealthy thing. Although again, that's going to be determined on a case by case basis by local communities and local school boards."

To further clarify Obama’s position on sex ed for kindergartner’s, Obama’s campaign spokesman, Bill Burton, pointed MSNBC to the “curriculum for those in kindergarten” produced by the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States (SIECUS). This curriculum suggested discussing same-sex relationships—in non-graphic terms--with kindergartners.

In response to a campaign ad that Sen. John McCain later put out focusing on Obama’s support for sex education for kindergartners, SIECUS itself published an explanation of the Illinois state bill Obama had supported. SIECUS explained that the bill Obama supported did indeed extend sex education to kindergartners in Illinois. At that time, Illinois mandated sex education only for children in grades six through 12. SIECUS also said the bill would have removed all mention of “marriage” from sex education in the state’s public schools.

wow, this is beyond fucked up.

[Fabbs]

What are you afraid of?


that providing information that the fact is that it's not a stork is probably not an unhealthy thing.

[spursncowboys]

What are you afraid of?
you clearly don't have kids

[Spurminator]

Parents or guardians of students can opt out of the sexual health education program if they so choose.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/02/28/chicago-passes-sex-ed-for-kindergartners/

[leemajors]

you clearly don't have kids

What does that mean?

[ChumpDumper]

The only mention of any sex education before grade six in the bill:
Comprehensive Health Education Program.

The program established under this Act shall include, but not be limited to, the following major educational areas as a basis for curricula in all elementary and secondary schools in this State:....age-appropriate sexual abuse and assault awareness and prevention education in grades pre-kindergarten through 12....http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?GAID=12&SessionID=85&GA=98&DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=2675&LegID=74479&SpecSess=&Session=

And of course, any parents can opt their child out of any sex ed class.

lol cnsnews

[Fabbs]

you clearly don't have kids
No i clearly do.
And i teach them the truth.
Baby did not come from a stork.

I don't want them becoming 'fraidy of hearing a different opinion.

[UZER]

No i clearly do.
And i teach them the truth.
Baby did not come from a stork.

I don't want them becoming 'fraidy of hearing a different opinion.

So no Santa?

[mrsmaalox]

Where's the part that says kinder students are required to have homosexual sex ed as the OP claimed?

[HeatChamps]

Obama is awesome. Stupid stork creators making sex as a bad thing. Fuck those conservatives.

[spursncowboys]

What does that mean?
How a five year old comprehends things. The idea that anything sexual needs to be taught to kindergartners.

[spursncowboys]

No i clearly do.
And i teach them the truth.
Baby did not come from a stork.

I don't want them becoming 'fraidy of hearing a different opinion.

Good for you. How old if you don't mind me asking?

I don't go the stork route. But I do feel at kindergarten, any questions they have about sex should be answered by me, and not in a mass group setting.

But how would you feel if the sex ed was a faith based class? I doubt you would be as gun ho.

[spursncowboys]

No i clearly do.
And i teach them the truth.
Baby did not come from a stork.

I don't want them becoming 'fraidy of hearing a different opinion.
The truth huh? How truthful? Do you show them your keg stand pictures. You going to pull the Mosby method and tell them all the women you've banged before you met their mother?

IMO I think it is great that you have a relationship like that. I raise my children, that at 5 to be children. I don't tell them how many kids their age are killed or abused. I tell them there are bad people out there and what to do with strangers.

[mrsmaalox]

It's funny that so many people think that sex ed means teaching and demonstrating intercourse :lol In this case it means giving an age appropriate answer when your kid sees a pregnant woman (or their own mother) and asks what is wrong with her. How many kindergartners have seen animals being born on Animal Planet and want to know what's going on? That is sex ed and yes, kindergartners need to be taught that because they are curious and those are the kinds of things they ask.

[mrsmaalox]

quoted myself lol

[leemajors]

How a five year old comprehends things. The idea that anything sexual needs to be taught to kindergartners.

Yeah body shaming and guilt has done wonders for children's mental health. Not educating kids about how their bodies work has also helped them a lot!

[spursncowboys]

It's funny that so many people think that sex ed means teaching and demonstrating intercourse :lol In this case it means giving an age appropriate answer when your kid sees a pregnant woman (or their own mother) and asks what is wrong with her. How many kindergartners have seen animals being born on Animal Planet and want to know what's going on? That is sex ed and yes, kindergartners need to be taught that because they are curious and those are the kinds of things they ask.
It's even funnier how some people think that anyone thinks that. Although there have been groups who do teach the extreme part of sex, I don't think that would be the norm.
Also funny is how everyone uses the coined generalized phrase 'age appropriate'. explaining to kindergartners that adults have sex to have kids is not age appropriate. If you think it's so important, than teach it to your kid, at your home. Not in a classroom.
What is 'age appropriate' for a four to five year old?

[Drachen]

you clearly don't have kids

When my then four year old daughter asked how my wife got pregnant with our first son, we told her that mommy and daddy made a baby and put it into mommy's belly because it wasn't ready yet. That when it was ready, we would go to the hospital and the doctors would help mommy get the baby out of her belly so that we could all meet him/her (we didn't find out the gender).

That seems to be age appropriate sex ed... I don't think that the lesson plan for kindergartens is going to be "well let's pretend that Susie here is a slut with a vag the size of a Mack truck, over here we've got Brett the football player who can't be trusted... ."

[spursncowboys]

When my then four year old daughter asked how my wife got pregnant with our first son, we told her that mommy and daddy made a baby and put it into mommy's belly because it wasn't ready yet. That when it was ready, we would go to the hospital and the doctors would help mommy get the baby out of her belly so that we could all meet him/her (we didn't find out the gender).

That seems to be age appropriate sex ed... I don't think that the lesson plan for kindergartens is going to be "well let's pretend that Susie here is a slut with a vag the size of a Mack truck, over here we've got Brett the football player who can't be trusted... ."
:lol
I don't either. That's pretty much how I put it.

[ChumpDumper]

It's even funnier how some people think that anyone thinks that. Although there have been groups who do teach the extreme part of sex, I don't think that would be the norm.
Also funny is how everyone uses the coined generalized phrase 'age appropriate'. explaining to kindergartners that adults have sex to have kids is not age appropriate. If you think it's so important, than teach it to your kid, at your home. Not in a classroom.
What is 'age appropriate' for a four to five year old?
The program established under this Act shall include, but not be limited to, the following major educational areas as a basis for curricula in all elementary and secondary schools in this State:....age-appropriate sexual abuse and assault awareness and prevention education in grades pre-kindergarten through 12....I consider that to be appropriate.

Do you?

[mrsmaalox]

It's even funnier how some people think that anyone thinks that. Although there have been groups who do teach the extreme part of sex, I doubt anyone really has a problem with that.
Also funny is how everyone uses the coined generalized phrase 'age appropriate'. explaining to kindergartners that adults have sex to have kids is not age appropriate. If you think it's so important, than teach it to your kid, at your home. Not in a classroom.
What is 'age appropriate' for a four to five year old?

You are still just focused on the sexual intercourse. There is a lot to reproduction that can be explained in simple understandable terms to little kids that doesn't involve intercourse specifically. The phrase age appropriate is not generalized and if you have any knowledge in child development, you know that 5 year olds have plenty of questions about where babies come from and about their genitals; sex ed is not just about teaching the sex "act".

[mrsmaalox]

:lol
I don't either. That's pretty much how I put it.

So then why do you think it will be put any other way?

[leemajors]

You are still just focused on the sexual intercourse. There is a lot to reproduction that can be explained in simple understandable terms to little kids that doesn't involve intercourse specifically. The phrase age appropriate is not generalized and if you have any knowledge in child development, you know that 5 year olds have plenty of questions about where babies come from and about their genitals; sex ed is not just about teaching the sex "act".

that, and teens have sex too, and there is nothing you can do to stop it. They can at least be well informed when they start doing so, and know how to do it safely.

[spursncowboys]

So then why do you think it will be put any other way?
What? As far as I read, you were the one assuming. Once again, what is your definition of age appropriate for a kindergartner? What exactly are they going to learn? What would you teach other people's kids if you were a kinder teacher?

[spursncowboys]

that, and teens have sex too, and there is nothing you can do to stop it. They can at least be well informed when they start doing so, and know how to do it safely.
a five year. That's the age of a kindergartner. Sometimes four year olds.

[ChumpDumper]

What? As far as I read, you were the one assuming. Once again, what is your definition of age appropriate for a kindergartner? What exactly are they going to learn? What would you teach other people's kids if you were a kinder teacher?Read the actual law and unclench.

CNSNews has got you all riled up about nothing.

[spursncowboys]

You are still just focused on the sexual intercourse. There is a lot to reproduction that can be explained in simple understandable terms to little kids that doesn't involve intercourse specifically. The phrase age appropriate is not generalized and if you have any knowledge in child development, you know that 5 year olds have plenty of questions about where babies come from and about their genitals; sex ed is not just about teaching the sex "act".
I don't know why you keep bringing it back to intercourse, as if I assumed that.
I know child development from first hand knowledge and not from a professor who never had kids.
So what is your def of age appropriate?
As a teacher explaining where babies come from, I'm assuming you are ok with a "teacher" explaining to your kids what that is?

[spursncowboys]

Read the actual law and unclench.

CNSNews has got you all riled up about nothing.
There's a law now?

[ChumpDumper]

There's the Illinois law that governs all this that I cited twice and you failed to read twice.

Jesus.

As far as Chicago goes, the rest of it is local control which is something I thought conservatives liked. And, as has been noted but not acknowledged by any of the angries, parents can opt their kids out of any or all of the sex education.

[spursncowboys]

There's the Illinois law that governs all this that I cited twice and you failed to read twice.

Jesus.

As far as Chicago goes, the rest of it is local control which is something I thought conservatives liked. And, as has been noted but not acknowledged by any of the angries, parents can opt their kids out of any or all of the sex education.
Oh yeah I have you on ignore and sometimes don't open your posts. :toast

[scroteface]

Kindergartners should be playing with dolls and hot wheels they shouldnt even know what sex is until closer to puberty unless they learn it somewhere, you sick freaks sexualizing children is going to lead to more degeneracy

[CuckingFunt]

How a five year old comprehends things. The idea that anything sexual needs to be taught to kindergartners.

Sex education =/= porn.

[CuckingFunt]

So then why do you think it will be put any other way?

Because LIBERALS!!

[spursncowboys]

So then everyone here seems against sex ed and instead want to teach kindergartners health. Give them a health class.
:lol liberals with too much time on their hands and listening to the good idea fairy.

[CuckingFunt]

So then everyone here seems against sex ed and instead want to teach kindergartners health. Give them a health class.
:lol liberals with too much time on their hands and listening to the good idea fairy.

I genuinely don't think you have a clue what you're opposing or what your argument is against it.

[spursncowboys]

I genuinely don't think you have a clue what you're opposing or what your argument is against it.

That's very noble of you to spend your post explaining what you think I know or don't know. :toast

[spursncowboys]

I genuinely don't think you have a clue what you're opposing or what your argument is against it.
Glad you can contribute your simplistic notions of other peoples comments.

[CuckingFunt]

Got a third attempt in ya?

[scroteface]

Please commit suicide by dildo already.

[CuckingFunt]

Please commit suicide by dildo already.

If you haven't managed to kill yourself yet, what makes you think such a thing is even possible?

[marini martini]

Sex education =/= porn.

No rudeness meant, but what does this mean, in English? Is it Navajo code talk?

[leemajors]

No rudeness meant, but what does this mean, in English? Is it Navajo code talk?

spursandcowboys appears to think sex education is equivalent to porn, like a good jeeb

[scroteface]

If you haven't managed to kill yourself yet, what makes you think such a thing is even possible?
You're just not using the right dildo yet, try using a samurai sword

[CuckingFunt]

No rudeness meant, but what does this mean, in English? Is it Navajo code talk?

http://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/not-equal.html

[marini martini]

"Not equal to."

Cool, thanks!

[Rogue]

As much as I hate Obama and the liberals, I don't think giving kids the proper knowledge about sex is the wrong thing to do. With easy access to the internet, Kids can learn whatever they want to know but sometimes the info on the Internet can be false and misleading, so the right guidance that Obama proposes would only do good to them kids imho. It's not like they would teach the kids about how to do sex or masturbate. Kids are only going to learn the knowledge they ought to know

[scroteface]

It's not like they would teach the kids about how to do sex or masturbate.

can't be sure of that with these perverted weirdos

[Rogue]

I remember while I was under 10 I thought women would get pregnant by drinking men's urine. I knew something had to be done between a woman and a man to conceive a baby, and drinking the man's urine was the thing I thought it to be. I certainly had no idea back then what "sex" actually means, but it sounded very nasty disgusting to me. Such warped impression of sex might be a big reason why I became a celibate imho. Kids deserve the right to learn about sex even when they're still too young to practice it.

[Jeff Van Gundy]

Oh god rogue stfu u annoying fuck

[Jacob1983]

Other than learning how to read and write and do math and color, what else do kids learn in kindergarten? The art of taking naps?

[HeatChamps]

My sex ed is go to redtube and wank away. But yes the school version would be more scientific.

[Rogue]

Oh god rogue stfu u annoying fuck
I ain't meaning to be annoying, Jeff. I just believe that if kids had been properly and sufficiently educated about sex, there wouldn't have been so many teenagers getting pragnant early on. Sometimes young people only try sex because they're curious about it. More often than not it's their innocent curiosity rather than the natural appetite for the opposite sex that lures this teenagers in beds naked with the opposite sex imho. Kids should've been taught about the harm and risk of doing sex at an early age, but sadly no one takes the responsibility of doing this, not the parents nor the society.

[mrsmaalox]

I don't know why you keep bringing it back to intercourse, as if I assumed that.
I know child development from first hand knowledge and not from a professor who never had kids.
So what is your def of age appropriate?
As a teacher explaining where babies come from, I'm assuming you are ok with a "teacher" explaining to your kids what that is?

I brought it back to intercourse because you posted this


explaining to kindergartners that adults have sex to have kids is not age appropriate.

The definition of adults having sex is "intercourse".

I know child development from 2 sources. One is my education. Nursing school requires a basic child development course and a child psychology course; my Patient Education certification additionally required the child development courses that teachers take. And because of my personal interest in the subject I took a more advanced course as an elective. I'd never assume that any of those professors were childless as you did.

Another source is being the parent of 3 kids, one of whom was developmentally delayed until age 10 because of her premature birth. I worked very closely with developmental pediatricians and psychologists for many years for her. All my kids attended kindergarten (2 in private Christian schools, one in public school) and amazingly, all those curriculums were age appropriate! That was never a concern for me. And in the countless parent orientations I have attended in the last 19 years I have NEVER heard a single parent bring up a concern about the age appropriateness of the curriculums. From what I read in the OP, I still have no concern that suddenly out of the blue, the curriculums are going to make a total turn around to teach age inappropriate content on a controversial subject that strikes obvious terror into the brains of so many. Why are you worried about that? Have you had other experiences where your kids have been taught age inappropriate material?

[mrsmaalox]

So then everyone here seems against sex ed and instead want to teach kindergartners health. Give them a health class.
:lol liberals with too much time on their hands and listening to the good idea fairy.

Um, sex ed has always been taught in health classes. Sex is health.

[mrsmaalox]

I genuinely don't think you have a clue what you're opposing or what your argument is against it.


Because LIBERALS!!

[scroteface]

we're talking about 5 and 6 year olds you fucking weirdos, not high school health class. i'm too offended to even continue posting in this thread, america is sick and incapable of being fixed.

[Bill_Brasky]

hitler is offended, good job spurstalk.

[Drachen]

That's very noble of you to spend your post explaining what you think I know or don't know. :toast

I have to agree with CF here. You were railing against age appropriate sex ed, then I have an example of age appropriate sex ed. You then said that you totally agreed with my personal example of age appropriate sex ed, before continuing to rail against age appropriate sex ed.

[Spurminator]

Chicago Schools Mandate Sodomy Classes for Pre-K Students

Chicago, IL - The Chicago Board of Education today passed a law that requires Pre-Kindergarten students ages 4 and above to attend a minimum of eight sessions on safe sex techniques, including proper technique for anal and oral sex. The law is based on several bills put forward by Barack Hussain Obama when he was an Illinois State legislator. The U.S. Department of Education and National Teachers Union are discussing a timeline to institute the curriculum nationwide, a move that has the full support of President Obama and the ACLU, along with gun control advocates.

http://thatblog.youread.com/latestmanufacturedcontroversy/bullshityoubelieve08-30-14

[Drachen]

Lol ^^

[marini martini]

Um, sex ed has always been taught in health classes. Sex is healthy.

FIFY :toast

[ChumpDumper]

we're talking about 5 and 6 year olds you fucking weirdos, not high school health class. i'm too offended to even continue posting in this thread, america is sick and incapable of being fixed.It's good that you're leaving. You had no idea what anyone was talking about.

[kamikazi_player]

It's good that you're leaving. You had no idea what anyone was talking about.
:lol

[scroteface]

It's good that you're leaving. You had no idea what anyone was talking about.

i know what you're talking about, sex ed for 5 year olds (b-b-b-but it's teh good liberal kind!!!)

[ChumpDumper]

i know what you're talking about, sex ed for 5 year olds (b-b-b-but it's teh good liberal kind!!!)Oh, you're back.

Education consisting of what? Explain the curriculum for us.

[Leetonidas]

oh noes! my kids are gonna be educated about sex when they're younger instead of just experimenting with each other to see what it's like! now my daughter will be scared for life even though she probably would've sucked her 14 year old boyfriends cock because he said he loved her!

:rolleyes

[LkrFan]

What are you afraid of?
Nothing to be afraid of, Faggs. The question is why put gay shit into a young, highly impressionable, 5-year olds' head? WTF are you homos trying to accomplish here? SMFH

[scroteface]

14 year old

I dont think anyone objects to sex Ed for 14 year olds, this thread is about perverts wanting to destroy the innocence of 5 and 6 year olds. If I could I would strangle every one of you sick fucks advocating this shit, one thing that's not tolerated is victimizing children. Keep your perversion to your own bedrooms cucks.

[Leetonidas]

oh i know i just meant because that shit is the norm when kids are that age, at least at my middle/high schools

[ChumpDumper]

I dont think anyone objects to sex Ed for 14 year olds, this thread is about perverts wanting to destroy the innocence of 5 and 6 year olds. If I could I would strangle every one of you sick fucks advocating this shit, one thing that's not tolerated is victimizing children. Keep your perversion to your own bedrooms cucks.What do you mean by "this shit"?

You have yet to demonstrate any working knowledge of this topic. You have only threatened others with violence in such a classy way.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh no a five year old might know that adults have sex. The fucking horror. The idea that there needs to be an age appropriate level of teaching the basics of our bodies is ridiculous retardation that stems from archaic sexual ideas.

[Rogue]

People ain't teaching them kids how to do sex, but at a very basic level, kids have the right to know about it. I think it's better to allow them to learn it under the right guidance rather than set them free and let them search the knowledge by themselves, on the internet which's full of false information. I remember when I was in the 7th grade we took a class about sex, the changes happening in our bodies during puberty and stuffs like that. No one felt offended or humiliated in the classroom

[Rogue]

Oh no a five year old might know that adults have sex. The fucking horror. The idea that there needs to be an age appropriate level of teaching the basics of our bodies is ridiculous retardation that stems from archaic sexual ideas.

No one is talking about teaching kids to have sex at early ages, in fact what the president proposes is exactly the opposite. It's not the 70s and 80s when kids only knew what their teachers and parents told them about. They can find whatever knowledge they want to know these days thanks to the easy access to the internet, but most stuffs they see on the internet are fallacious and harmful, so it's the responsibility of schools and the society to inculcate the right ideas in their heads before they get occupied by the wrong imho.

[thispego]

you clearly don't have kids

:lmao

[spursncowboys]

:lol age appropriate. The coined term. Still what is age appropriate? A hundred people surveyed will give a hundred different answers. With all the the things a kindergarten teacher needs to work on, this is the least needed.
Furthermore since schools have taught sex ed on all different grades, there has not been any scientific evidence that any of these have gone down: teen pregnancies or STD's.
The idea that pushing sex ed farther and farther down the age groups does not fix any problem, even the ones brought up to do this. In fact there is no sex problems among kindergartners.
More do gooders sitting around looking for ideas to push their view on everyone.

[ChumpDumper]

Two days on and you still know nothing about the topic.

[spursncowboys]

I brought it back to intercourse because you posted this



The definition of adults having sex is "intercourse".

I know child development from 2 sources. One is my education. Nursing school requires a basic child development course and a child psychology course; my Patient Education certification additionally required the child development courses that teachers take. And because of my personal interest in the subject I took a more advanced course as an elective. I'd never assume that any of those professors were childless as you did.

Another source is being the parent of 3 kids, one of whom was developmentally delayed until age 10 because of her premature birth. I worked very closely with developmental pediatricians and psychologists for many years for her. All my kids attended kindergarten (2 in private Christian schools, one in public school) and amazingly, all those curriculums were age appropriate! That was never a concern for me. And in the countless parent orientations I have attended in the last 19 years I have NEVER heard a single parent bring up a concern about the age appropriateness of the curriculums. From what I read in the OP, I still have no concern that suddenly out of the blue, the curriculums are going to make a total turn around to teach age inappropriate content on a controversial subject that strikes obvious terror into the brains of so many. Why are you worried about that? Have you had other experiences where your kids have been taught age inappropriate material?
You keep using age appropriate. For a kinder kid what was it? How did kindergartners survive, throughout history, and not become crack head whores without learning "sex ed?

1. What is the problem that this is to fix? You keep assuming alot about me.

2. Seems to me that Chicago should be working harder on keeping kindergartners alive, rather than teach them "sex ed".

[ChumpDumper]

You keep using age appropriate. For a kinder kid what was it? You never learned how to look up something for yourself.

Or read.

[ChumpDumper]

Furthermore since schools have taught sex ed on all different grades, there has not been any scientific evidence that any of these have gone down: teen pregnancies or STD's.:lol
Teen birth rates in the U.S., which have been declining for two decades, have reached a record low, with significant drops in almost every state.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2013/05/24/whats-behind-the-drop-in-u-s-teen-birth-rates/#ixzz2dlm9vjn8

Do you have the whole world on ignore?

[Jeff Van Gundy]

It's funny when people say shit which isn't even true and misinform other people.
:lol spursncowboys

[GoodOdor]

It's funny when people say shit which isn't even true and misinform other people.
:lol spursncowboys

He's just repeating what the email told him!!!:cry

[spursncowboys]

oh noes! my kids are gonna be educated about sex when they're younger instead of just experimenting with each other to see what it's like! now my daughter will be scared for life even though she probably would've sucked her 14 year old boyfriends cock because he said he loved her!

:rolleyes
Oh wow. Why did we think about this before. We should teach kids about sex before they learn their abc's. That way they won't have sex, or they'll have less sex than if they didn't take the class. Or they'll not get pregnant, because they'll be informed. Now at 14, she'll not perform felatio because of what she learned nine year prior.

[spursncowboys]

It's funny when people say shit which isn't even true and misinform other people.
:lol spursncowboys
like...

[spursncowboys]

:lol

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2013/05/24/whats-behind-the-drop-in-u-s-teen-birth-rates/#ixzz2dlm9vjn8

Do you have the whole world on ignore?
Yeah I believe completely your link. I'll ignore the fact that all births of all age have dramatically dropped. That one of the states with the biggest decline is Utah. I'll ignore that and just assume like you that it is sex ed. Sex ed also is the reason to the dramatical decline of crime. :lol same schtick.

But a man who's paycheck comes from sex ed classes says that it is sex ed. So lets ignore everything else. :lol

[spursncowboys]

Other than learning how to read and write and do math and color, what else do kids learn in kindergarten? The art of taking naps?
no more naps. In CO, they have to know 100 words, and know all numbers 1-100.

[CuckingFunt]

Oh wow. Why did we think about this before. We should teach kids about sex before they learn their abc's. That way they won't have sex, or they'll have less sex than if they didn't take the class. Or they'll not get pregnant, because they'll be informed. Now at 14, she'll not perform felatio because of what she learned nine year prior.

It's amusing to me that this conversation always inevitably turns into a concern for what poor, innocent, helpless little girls are going to do once their abundance of education and knowledge forces them to become sluts. Young women are particularly in need of better sex education, not only because their bodies are the greatest impacted by STIs and unplanned pregnancy, but also because a greater understanding of their own agency is essential in encouraging better and more thoughtful decisions in their sexual lives.

[scroteface]

It's amusing to me that this conversation always inevitably turns into a concern for what poor, innocent, helpless little girls are going to do once their abundance of education and knowledge forces them to become sluts. Young women are particularly in need of better sex education, not only because their bodies are the greatest impacted by STIs and unplanned pregnancy, but also because a greater understanding of their own agency is essential in encouraging better and more thoughtful decisions in their sexual lives.

5 year olds dont get pregnant

[CuckingFunt]

5 year olds dont get pregnant

Never said they did, eagle eyes.

[lakerhaterade]

:cry my 4 year old kid really needs to know that men and women fuck each other to reproduce. Its essential because their curiousity compels to ask such a question at such a young age :cry

[spursncowboys]

It's amusing to me that this conversation always inevitably turns into a concern for what poor, innocent, helpless little girls are going to do once their abundance of education and knowledge forces them to become sluts. Young women are particularly in need of better sex education, not only because their bodies are the greatest impacted by STIs and unplanned pregnancy, but also because a greater understanding of their own agency is essential in encouraging better and more thoughtful decisions in their sexual lives.
5 years won't retain any information, and will probably be more confused.
That post that you quoted was a response to a specific post. Cool story tho

[scroteface]

Never said they did, eagle eyes.

so far a bunch of you nuts have been using comparisons to sex ed for teenagers in your justifications for sex ed for 5 year olds. in reality it's not even the same case. most 5 year olds don't really know what sex is, you sickos aren't going to take away their innocence. approaching the age of puberty is the appropriate age for sex ed, not for 5 year olds.

[scroteface]

:cry my 4 year old kid really needs to know that men and women fuck each other to reproduce. Its essential because their curiousity compels to ask such a question at such a young age :cry
:lol it's sick. if a 4 year old asks such a question, that's really for the parents to explain to them. i would NOT ever trust a liberal with my child let alone teaching them perversion. if anyone is going to explain these things to my child it would be me, not some perverted child predator.

[CuckingFunt]

5 years won't retain any information, and will probably be more confused.

"Mommies and daddies make babies together" isn't terribly confusing. Nor is is difficult to retain. My parents taught me where babies came from when I was six years old (using books and other materials made specifically to instruct children) and I've managed to remember it for twenty-nine years and counting.


That post that you quoted was a response to a specific post.

I know. The fact that conversation was even taking place is precisely what led to my comment. What started out as outrage about teh gays and liberals brainwashing our children turned into fear of girls being turned into sluts by access to too much information; a good ol' patriarchal mainstay.

[CuckingFunt]

so far a bunch of you nuts have been using comparisons to sex ed for teenagers in your justifications for sex ed for 5 year olds. in reality it's not even the same case. most 5 year olds don't really know what sex is, you sickos aren't going to take away their innocence. approaching the age of puberty is the appropriate age for sex ed, not for 5 year olds.

There is no one "age of puberty." Some girls can start menstruating and become pregnant at ten years old. And whether or not kindergarten-age children know the intricacies of sexual intercourse, or whether they should, you're beyond naive if you think kids as young as five don't have some understanding of sexuality as a vague concept. Whether that understanding is based on watching adults interact, or hearing funny noises coming from the parents' bedroom at night, or just recognizing certain pleasure responses in their own bodies, kids know a hell of a lot more than perhaps we want to believe they do.

[Spurminator]

I take it you guys who have been arguing against this for 4 pages still haven't read the actual law.

[scroteface]

I take it you guys who have been arguing against this for 4 pages still haven't read the actual law.

it doesn't matter what's in the law, i don't trust liberals to actually follow the law. they might lead you to believe they'll only teach something along the lines of "mommies and daddies make babies together" but in reality they'll be teaching homosexual propaganda and vulgar material. i don't want a sick in the head liberal talking to our nations children about sex and brainwashing them, period. liberals are a sick antihuman cult and they must be exterminated.

[Spurminator]

K.

[CuckingFunt]

it doesn't matter what's in the law, i don't trust liberals to actually follow the law. they might lead you to believe they'll only teach something along the lines of "mommies and daddies make babies together" but in reality they'll be teaching homosexual propaganda and vulgar material. i don't want a sick in the head liberal talking to our nations children about sex and brainwashing them, period. liberals are a sick antihuman cult and they must be exterminated.

This would be a lot more provocative if I thought for even a second you actually believed it. But as just the latest of a long line of over-the-top shticks, I'm unmoved.

[scroteface]

i'm as serious as the sky is blue, i have the utmost contempt and disgust for liberals. you may proceed with being provoked and offended for all i give a damn. you sickos are NOT getting your hands on our nations children and indoctrinating them to your sickness.

[spursncowboys]

"Mommies and daddies make babies together" isn't terribly confusing. Nor is is difficult to retain. My parents taught me where babies came from when I was six years old (using books and other materials made specifically to instruct children) and I've managed to remember it for twenty-nine years and counting.
So that's what this is about? That's age appropriate? You are saying that you want to take away from the teachers teaching so they can be told that mommies and daddies make babies. Seems very legitimate. Exactly what I'd expect a liberal to say. "let's do this great idea and not think of any consequences."

How many of those kids live with a mommy and daddy?





I know. The fact that conversation was even taking place is precisely what led to my comment. What started out as outrage about teh gays and liberals brainwashing our children turned into fear of girls being turned into sluts by access to too much information; a good ol' patriarchal mainstay.
What? What the hell are you talking about?

[Leetonidas]

5 year olds dont get pregnant

tbh i think the youngest girl to ever get preggo was 5 years old

[scroteface]

tbh i think the youngest girl to ever get preggo was 5 years old

and there are also siamese twins and all sorts of fucked up things in nature but they aren't the norm

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah I believe completely your link. I'll ignore the fact that all births of all age have dramatically dropped. That one of the states with the biggest decline is Utah. I'll ignore that and just assume like you that it is sex ed. Sex ed also is the reason to the dramatical decline of crime. :lol same schtick.

But a man who's paycheck comes from sex ed classes says that it is sex ed. So lets ignore everything else. :lolYou said they weren't going down.

You were wrong.

Fucking live with it.

[ChumpDumper]

Holy shit, SnC and m<s don't know anything about anything. They are just pseudo-conservative ragebots.

[Big Empty]

I have a harder time with them being taught who the Nazis or Klu Klux Klan were at such a young age.