Over/Under: Kobe will average 15 points a game after his injury return

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Sounds bout right.

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[irishock]

Over. He'd retire before he can see the <15ppg days.

[AchillesHeel]

Over, Kirby will average about the same on offense, same/worse on D (I'm not sure he can after last season). His efficiency should drop, depends on how well the rest of the team plays. He'll have some nice games against bad defenses and ESPN will hype it up but overall I'm not seeing anything special. Lakers have 0 pressure and no on expects them to do shit so Kirby will be able to chase the scoring title this season.

That doesn't mean he'll do great, you can average 30 ppg but if your team is still shit in terms of playoff picture it doesn't really matter.

[spurraider21]

Better question would be an over/under on his shooting%, at 44%

[Michael Jordan.]

Better question would be an over/under on his shooting%, at 44%
:rollin

[BoricuaCJA]

Over, I think he'll still average 24ppg with his shooting % taking a big hit of course imo. 40-42% shooting.

[Kool Bob Love]

Under.

[ambchang]

Come on guys, other than his rookie season where kobestans pretend never happened, Kobe has NEVER scored less than 15ppg for an entire season. Scoring has never been his issue, he will jack up 40 shots a game if he could. His shot selection is the problem. His leadership is the problem. His team play is the problem.

So instead, we should ask if he could shoot 44% for the season (addressed)
We should ask if he can "lead" the lakers to the playoffs.
We should ask what is the over/under before he starts to blame his teammates/coaching staff.
We should ask what is the over/under before he quits and demand a trade.

[RsxPiimp]

one thing I learned from kobe is never doubt the guy. he has proven evryone wrong so many times.

-in 04-05, when everyone thought kobe only scored a ton because of shaq's presence in the paint, kobe answered by putting the most points in a single seaon since mj in 86

-after losing in 2008 against boston, everybody said he can't win another championship. 2 yrs later, kobe won b2b

-halfway through the 12-13 season, with the lakers playoff hopes out of the equation. mamba pulled the lakers out of that rut leading them to a 28-12 record while avg 24.3 ppg 9.6 apg en route to a playoff seed. Thats fuckin gangsta tbh.

-2013, with a ruptured achilles, everybody thinks kobe is donr. well guess what motherfuckers, kobe will have another amazing season.

25.6 ppg 47% at age 35. Hate on that :toast

[Michael Jordan.]

one thing I learned from kobe is never doubt the guy. he has proven evryone wrong so many times.

-in 04-05, when everyone thought kobe only scored a ton because of shaq's presence in the paint, kobe answered by putting the most points in a single seaon since mj in 86

-after losing in 2008 against boston, everybody said he can't win another championship. 2 yrs later, kobe won b2b

-2013, with a ruptured achilles, everybody thinks kobe is donr. well guess what motherfuckers, kobe will have another amazing season.

25.6 ppg 47% at age 35. Hate on that :toast
111-111 in seasons without a big

Career 45% shooter including seasons with a big

Hate on that :lol

[RsxPiimp]

bottom line nigga

5 championship rings is all I see:hat

[spurraider21]

in 04-05, when everyone thought kobe only won rings because of shaq's presence in the paint, kobe answered by missing the playoffs in his prime

[Michael Jordan.]

bottom line nigga

5 championship rings is all I see:hat
I can see why. All his records don't look so good.

[baseline bum]

Over. You guys think he's going to start passing this season or some shit?

[StrengthAndHonor]

There's no reason to "pass" the rock this season. They are not winning anything obviously and the Lakers are not developing a young talent. It's anything goes and most players IMO will have career highs this season under D'Antoni's system with a full training camp under their belt.

The need to be healthy and entertain fans, that's their ceiling.

[ambchang]

one thing I learned from kobe is never doubt the guy. he has proven evryone wrong so many times.

-in 04-05, when everyone thought kobe only scored a ton because of shaq's presence in the paint, kobe answered by putting the most points in a single seaon since mj in 86

Ball hogging at its finest.


-after losing in 2008 against boston, everybody said he can't win another championship. 2 yrs later, kobe won b2b

You mean pau won b2b. Also who said they will not win another championship? They were heavy favourites in 08, the lakers underachieved because Kobe shot them out of a title, again.


-halfway through the 12-13 season, with the lakers playoff hopes out of the equation. mamba pulled the lakers out of that rut leading them to a 28-12 record while avg 24.3 ppg 9.6 apg en route to a playoff seed. Thats fuckin gangsta tbh.

Pau coming back had a lot to do with it, tbh. You, lakers without pau= 10th seed. With Pau, they moved up to 7th with some historical FTA.


-2013, with a ruptured achilles, everybody thinks kobe is donr. well guess what motherfuckers, kobe will have another amazing season.

25.6 ppg 47% at age 35. Hate on that :toast

Another scoring milestone? At least this time, he can shoot like an a stage SG.

[Katherine Robinson]

The Lakers need to make use of their pick and be as bad as possible while not looking like they are tanking. Kobe Bryant might average 28 on 30 attempts.

[DMC]

He'll average more and shoot more. There's no way he ever accepts a lesser role. No, he'll take more shots and, true to form, will find a reason to recuse himself from the inevitable shitty season results while still collecting as many career points as possible.

He doesn't have the will to win. He has the will to look like a winner. The Lakers front office will aid in that, since they too need Kobe to look like a winner.

[RsxPiimp]

Ball hogging at its finest.



You mean pau won b2b. Also who said they will not win another championship? They were heavy favourites in 08, the lakers underachieved because Kobe shot them out of a title, again.



Pau coming back had a lot to do with it, tbh. You, lakers without pau= 10th seed. With Pau, they moved up to 7th with some historical FTA.



Another scoring milestone? At least this time, he can shoot like an a stage SG.
my nigga:lol

[Axegrinder]

He'll average more and shoot more. There's no way he ever accepts a lesser role. No, he'll take more shots and, true to form, will find a reason to recuse himself from the inevitable shitty season results while still collecting as many career points as possible.

He doesn't have the will to win. He has the will to look like a winner. The Lakers front office will aid in that, since they too need Kobe to look like a winner.


YUP

[namlook]

111-111 in seasons without a big

Career 45% shooter including seasons with a big

Hate on that :lol

Jordan acting like he posted something meaningful when you couldn't do shit without Pippen. :lol

Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):

.430 win %
0 Titles
0 MVPs
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
1-9 playoff record
0 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year

[AchillesHeel]

Jordan acting like he posted something meaningful when you couldn't do shit without Pippen. :lol

Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):

.430 win %
0 Titles
0 MVPs
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
1-9 playoff record
0 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year

MJ from 84-87 averaged 31.7 ppg on 49,3% shooting, 85% FT, hadn't developed his 3pt shot yet, 5.6 reb 5 ast 2.6 stl 1.2 blk

57,1%TS
49,6% EFG
27.8 PER (led the league with a 29.8 PER 1987, before Pippen was drafted)
8,6% TRB
23,6% AST
led the league in WS in 1987 with 16.9(Kirby never had that high of a WS in a regular season, even in his prime :lol)


Rookie Of The Year (1985)
All-Rookie 1st team (1985)
Scoring champ(1987)
Most points in a single playoff game - 63 vs Boston Celtics 1986
1x Slam Dunk Contest champion 1987
3x all-star
1x All-NBA 1st team
1x All-NBA 2nd team

Individually, MJ was doing just fine.

Implying that any all-time great has won championships without help.

Lebron needed Wade,Bosh + solid role players to win his 2 titles
Hakeem needed Drexler,Horry and others to win his 2 titles(+ MJ being out of the league that time)
Duncan needed Robinson,Pop,Manu,Bowen,Horry and TP to win his
Kirby needed Shaq,Pjax,Fisher,Horry,Shaw,Pau,Odom,Artest to win his

Prime Kirby was averaging 35 ppg on decent efficiency and his team barely even made the playoffs(2x first round exit, missed playoffs without Pau), what's your point?

MJ needed help, you're not beating Pistons,Lakers,Sonics and Jazz without all-star help, MJ faced some stacked teams and he won by coming up big in late game situations.

[racm]

Without Pippen to defend Magic the Bulls might have lost. Without Paxson to hit that 3 the Suns could have won in 7.

[AchillesHeel]

Without Pippen to defend Magic the Bulls might have lost. Without Paxson to hit that 3 the Suns could have won in 7.


And without Artest Lakers lose Game 7.

[Arnold Toht]

And without Artest Lakers lose Game 7.

Without Artest we're standing here down 4-4, Kobe under Duncan.

[whitemamba]

Jordan acting like he posted something meaningful when you couldn't do shit without Pippen. :lol

Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):

.430 win %
0 Titles
0 MVPs
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
1-9 playoff record
0 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year

:lol MJ
:lol beta

[Michael Jordan.]

Jordan acting like he posted something meaningful when you couldn't do shit without Pippen. :lol

Jordan without Pippen (5 seasons):

.430 win %
0 Titles
0 MVPs
0 Finals MVP
0 Finals appearances
0 Playoff series wins
1-9 playoff record
0 NBA All Defense Team
0 NBA Defensive Player of the year
:lol only 3 seasons without an All star
:lol Kobe's teammates have more clutch playoff shots than Kobe
:lol Lakers lose when Kobe takes the most shots
:lol Kobe swept with three of the most dominant big men in the game
:lol LeBron more clutch than Kobe
:lol Choker

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol MJ
:lol beta
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[whitemamba]

:lol only 3 seasons without an All star
:lol Kobe's teammates have more clutch playoff shots than Kobe
:lol Lakers lose when Kobe takes the most shots
:lol Kobe swept with three of the most dominant big men in the game
:lol LeBron more clutch than Kobe
:lol Choker

:lol meltdown

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol meltdown
:lol deflecting

[Leetonidas]

He'll still average 25 points on 30 shot attempts imo

[Clipper Nation]

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Kirby isn't Robin, he's more like Alfred the butler, tbh....

:lol Third wheel

[whitemamba]

:lol deflecting

deflecting what? that MJ cant win without pippen>

[Leetonidas]

:lol 5 seasons without Pippen
:lol 2 of those with the Wizards
:lol 1 of those Jordan was injured the majority of the season
:lol only 2 full seasons on the Bulls without Pip when MJ wasn't 39
:lol dumbass argument

[Leetonidas]

:lol Pippen won no titles without MJ

[Michael Jordan.]

Kirby isn't Robin, he's more like Alfred the butler, tbh....

:lol Third wheel
Is this better? :lol

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[Michael Jordan.]

deflecting what? that MJ cant win without pippen>
When did Pippen win without me?

[spurraider21]

:lol meltdown

when you throw the word meltdown around like that, it makes it lose its meaning. on the other hand, this is an example of a meltdown
I figured you out.... you were one of those kids that thought he would be cool rooting for the lakers rival, you thought you would be the "cool" kid who didnt cheer for the home team. Then you realized that even your parents hated you for making such a silly decision,you ended up losing your friends, and going to in manic depression mode, which eventually lead to your failure of some classes at UCLA. Thats when the epiphany happened and you decided to come to ST and make internet friends... People who "understand" you. It all make sense now, slowly its all piecing together. You have no one with common interest, you just suck off everything thats anti lakers. Damn you and CN have some sad pathetic lives, at least your going to try and go to L:lolW School with your bio chem degree, and make something happen out of your pathetic miserable life.

[spurraider21]

When did Pippen win without me?

When did Pau win without Kobe? When did Shaq win without an all-star guard? etc etc. as the song goes, it takes 2 baby...

[Michael Jordan.]

When did Pau win without Kobe? When did Shaq win without an all-star guard? etc etc. as the song goes, it takes 2 baby...
Dirk, Hakeem, Duncan, etc...Except for them it does take two. Prime Shaq was basically two players in one.

[ginobilized]

tough injury to bounce back from

Still bet Kobe averages more than 15ppg he's a hard one to count out when it comes to willing his way through obstacles
depends more on his tendon and recovery D'Antoni's system is pretty low impact and speed reliant, could be perfect for Kobe at this late stage and coming back from such a devastating injury

gonna be interesting as always in lakerland

[whitemamba]

when you throw the word meltdown around like that, it makes it lose its meaning. on the other hand, this is an example of a meltdown

still salty i see

[whitemamba]

When did Pippen win without me?

the same time pau won without kobe

[spurraider21]

still salty i see

salty? over what, YOUR meltdown? :lol

[whitemamba]

salty? over what, YOUR meltdown? :lol

what?

[The Reckoning]

he's not going to come back, and even if he does it will be in a limited role. if he tries to play chucker kobe then he will tear that shit or his other tendon again. happened to yours truly tbh, he's fucked.

[Arnold Toht]

Over/Under: Kobe will be over Duncan 5-4 after his injury return

[ElNono]

Over/Under: Lakers were Swept by the Spurs

[Kawhi]

Under.:tu

[Kool Bob Love]

:tu

[SupremeGuy]

Kobe will do whatever it takes, and that includes shooting the ball 35+ times a game, in order to keep his ppg up. Lakers really fucked themselves over with the Contract.

[Raven]

The bet should be about if he'll play 20 games