Operation Northwoods, U.S. Govt. false flag proposals in 1962

[Parker2112]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods - " Operation Northwoods , which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war." "Following presentation of the Northwoods plan, Kennedy removed Lemnitzer as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, although he became Supreme Allied Commander (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Allied_Commander) of NATO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO) in January 1963. American armed forces leaders began to perceive Kennedy as going soft on Cuba, and the President became increasingly unpopular with the military, a rift that came to a head during Kennedy's disagreements with the service chiefs over the Cuban Missile Crisis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis)."

[Parker2112]

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[Parker2112]

"It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner en route from the United States to Jamaica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica), Guatemala, Panama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama), or Venezuela (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela). The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight. a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eglin_Air_Force_Base) would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will begin transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Civil_Aviation_Organization) radio[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods#cite_note-14) stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the United States what has happened to the aircraft instead of the United States trying to "sell" the incident."

[scroteface]

hey another US false flag

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, such a devious and super-secret strategy they declassified it and let people post it on the interweb.

[Parker2112]

CIA killing U.S. citizens isn't devious? Top secret isn't super-secret? STFU, chump.

[ChumpDumper]

Declassified is not secret at all.

[Parker2112]

Chump, the schemes laid out in that memo are not worthy of your whitewash. They warrant scrutiny, questions, and serious consideration. Not your usual brand of rapid fire excuses for any and all governmental misconduct. This plot is criminal, nefarious, and immoral. Why would you start whitewashing immediately? Is it pride? Is it simply political allegiance? Is it something they taught you in elementary school? Rethink your values, morals, and aims in life, tbh. Only a mindless, gutless sheep would whitewash the shit laid out above.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump, the schemes laid out in that memo are not worthy of your whitewash. They warrant scrutiny, questions, and serious consideration. Not your usual brand of rapid fire excuses for any and all governmental misconduct. This plot is criminal, nefarious, and immoral. Why would you start whitewashing immediately? Is it pride? Is it simply political allegiance? Is it something they taught you in elementary school? Rethink your values, morals, and aims in life, tbh. Only a mindless, gutless sheep would whitewash the shit laid out above.What's to whitewash?

It's all there.

Declassified.

[Parker2112]

Because it was declassified it can be dismissed? Nothing to see here? Move along? Is that what your saying? It is now irrelevant?

[ChumpDumper]

What are you saying?

Why did you post it?

What does this have to do with anything?

[TSA]

What are you saying?

Why did you post it?

What does this have to do with anything?
Nice dodge.

[Parker2112]

So now you imply this has no relevance? You can't see how this information has value today, on September 8th, 2013? I have to lead you through naiveté to see the relevance of this information, if any?

[ChumpDumper]

So now you imply this has no relevance? You can't see how this information has value today, on September 8th, 2013? I have to lead you through naiveté to see the relevance of this information, if any?Yes, tell us all what the relevance is.

[SA210]

:lmao This was the perfect thread for chump to get butthurt in since he can't defend Obama anymore lol

Yes, Parker. Chump is mindless and gutless and the worst kind of sheep. He's angry at the world and ankle bites anyone posting anything outside mainstream thinking. while never offering his own stances or points pertaining to the topic. Gutless.

Anyone defending Operation Northwoods knows that they are gutless trash loser turds. They know it throws a wrench in their fantasy mind that the govt loves us.

Thanks to the last great President Kennedy for having the balls to tell the mic to fuck off. Funny that they make a plan to murder US citizens for war, but kill Kennedy, one guy, the one who stopped it..nah, they wouldnt do that :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao This was the perfect thread for chump to get butthurt in since he can't defend Obama anymore lol

Yes, Parker. Chump is mindless and gutless and the worst kind of sheep. He's angry at the world and ankle bites anyone posting anything outside mainstream thinking. while never offering his own stances or points pertaining to the topic. Gutless.

Anyone defending Operation Northwoods knows that they are gutless trash loser turds. They know it throws a wrench in their fantasy mind that the govt loves us.

Thanks to the last great President Kennedy for having the balls to tell the mic to fuck off. Funny that they make a plan to murder US citizens for war, but kill Kennedy, one guy, the one who stopped it..nah, they wouldnt do that :lmaoSo you haven't said why this should be posted now either.

lol defending

[SA210]

You haven't posted why you are ok with Operation Northwoods.

[ChumpDumper]

You haven't posted why you are ok with Operation Northwoods.Straw man.

[SA210]

:lmao he can troll the forums and argue petty shit for years about nothing to the tune of 80k posts, but no one can post about Operation Northwoods in the political forum.

Senseless ban-worthy trolling for years about nothing > Factual political posts



:lmao

[SA210]

:cry don't post a real conspiracy theory, it makes chump look foolish when he tries acting like they don't exist :cry

crofl

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao he can troll the forums and argue petty shit for years about nothing to the tune of 80k posts, but no one can post about Operation Northwoods in the political forum.

Senseless ban-worthy trolling for years about nothing > Factual political posts



:lmaoDon't meltdown just because you can't justify someone else's thread.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry don't post a real conspiracy theory, it makes chump look foolish when he tries acting like they don't exist :cry

croflAnother straw man.

[SA210]

Ahh, the quick desperate 'meltdown' go to attempt and dodge

:lmao

[Parker2112]

TBH, people are better off processing this document/wiki article themselves. The revelations are pretty self-explanatory, given enough time and consideration. Chump's bullshit ankle biting notwithstanding.

[ChumpDumper]

You're the one losing his shit and furiously building straw men.

You and the OP can't say why he posted something that has been declassified for 15 years. Don't get mad.

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously, did you just find out about this?

lol

[SA210]

Aside from ur lies on losing shit and meltdowns bc you can't debate actual topics, why is not ok to post it?
Where in the forum rules does it say you can't post anything that's been out for 15 years?

(I already know the answer, bc it makes u look bad. Secret: you already do lol)

[ChumpDumper]

Aside from ur lies on losing shit and meltdowns bc you can't debate actual topics, why is not ok to post it?
Where in the forum rules does it say you can't post anything that's been out for 15 years?

(I already know the answer, bc it makes u look bad. Secret: you already do lol)There's no rule against posting 15 year old information for no reason at all.

It's clear neither of you can think of a reason to post this, or you're just too chickenshit to say anything at this point.

I understand why you would be afraid.

Proceed with your meltdown.

[SA210]

Why do u care that he posted it? Saying meltdown doesn't help you, just shows u for the coward u are.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do u care that he posted it?Where is the law against questioning anybody on the internet?
Saying meltdown doesn't help you, just shows u for the coward u are.Trying to shut down questioning just shows you for the coward you are.

[SA210]

:lmao The internet resident knows the rules of the internets :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Thanks for admitting there is no such rule.

And for melting down.

[SA210]

So why the butthurt if he can post it? :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

I asked a simple question and he got butthurt, then you melted down on his behalf.

Melting down on your own isn't enough for you anymore.

[SA210]

77, 300 meltdowns :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You should log in under one of your other names to support yourself.

As it is, you wiill never talk about this topic again.

[SA210]

Don't be angry. You can discuss the actual topic at hand for a change. But you won't. Your butthurt stings too much. It's been nice owning u again. Never gets old :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I was discussing the actual topic, remember?

Before your meltdown.

[Parker2112]

You didnt ask anything. You immediately started with whitewash. I didnt get butthurt. I told you to stfu if that was the best you could do. Thats just good solid advice imho.

[ChumpDumper]

You didnt ask anything. You immediately started with whitewash. I didnt get butthurt. I told you to stfu if that was the best you could do. Thats just good solid advice imho.I commented that this is pretty old news that the government itself released.

You got butthurt.

I then asked what was your purpose of posting 15 year old news?

You stopped talking about it altogether.

[SA210]

After your expected meltdown I laughed while exposing your ban-able tactics u use to evade the facts in the OP, that make u so butthurt for being wrong so much

Keep up the butthurt. And post again in here off topic. I command u to.

Do it, now. :lol

Obama sucks lol

Operation Northwoods was a plan by the govt to kill it's own citizens, and you can't change that fact..let the butthurt commence :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Wait, where is the plan to kill US citizens?

Give a quote from the text of the document.

[SA210]

You didnt ask anything. You immediately started with whitewash. I didnt get butthurt. I told you to stfu if that was the best you could do. Thats just good solid advice imho.

When chumps butthurt and losing a debate before it ever starts (which is always), he will lie and immediately call others butthurt :lol

He won't discuss the actual topic, he'll deflect or spin, but won't discuss it. :lol

He knows he'll get his ass handed to him, so he'll just talk about nothing for hours bc life and sex are not something he knows about, tbh

Back to the topic though. Yea this is important for ppl to know. Not many ppl know about it, and it should be spread as much as possible.

Sounds eerily like 9/11 in a lot of those plans.

[ChumpDumper]

Hey, while you were busy melting down about me again, I asked you a question about Operation Northwoods.
Wait, where is the plan to kill US citizens?

Give a quote from the text of the document.

[SA210]

Wait, where is the plan to kill US citizens?

Give a quote from the text of the document.

:lmao so ur butthurt and mad about someone posting a factual conspiracy that you haven't even read???

What a gutless ignorant sheeple turd. I don't need to do homework for you if you don't know. It's posted for u to read, you baby. I mean its been out for 15 years and you are complaining that point urself, but don't know about the plan in there on killing US citizens??

Either you're uneducated on it, or you're lying, and both are equally possible answers. Actually its probably both at the same time.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao so ur butthurt and mad about someone posting a factual conspiracy that you haven't even read???

What a gutless ignorant sheeple turd. I don't need to do homework for you if you don't know. It's posted for u to read, you baby. I mean its been out for 15 years and you are complaining that point urself, but don't know about the plan in there on killing US citizens??

Either you're uneducated on it, or you're lying, and both are equally possible answers. Actually its probably both at the same time.

:lmaoI did read it. I found nothing about killing US citizens.

Your positive claim is that it is a plan to kill US citizens.

Prove it. Should be easy for you.

[SA210]

Then what? Will you 'suddenly' crossover into reality and be a changed faggot? Will you then admit what our govt really is and does? Will you once and for all actually discuss topics like a human being without all the butthurt? Will you then think about questioning your government for a change? What is the purpose for asking for the quote?

You don't give a fuck, pussy. You just want to spin anything that gets posted, period. That's what cowards with no guts do. You don't care about facts. Sniping and male tail chasing on the net is all your life is about.

[ChumpDumper]

Then what? Will you 'suddenly' crossover into reality and be a changed faggot?lol meltdown
Will you then admit what our govt really is and does? Will you once and for all actually discuss topics like a human being without all the butthurt? Will you then think about questioning your government for a change? What is the purpose for asking for the quote?The purpose of asking is to have you prove your claim. Why would you pass up an opportunity to prove yourself right and me wrong?


You don't give a fuck, pussy. You just want to spin anything that gets posted, period. That's what cowards with no guts do. You don't care about facts. Sniping and male tail chasing on the net is all your life is about.lol meltdown

I asked you for the facts about Operation Northwoods. You said it was a plan to kill US citizens. If that's indeed a fact, it will be easy for you to prove using the text of Operation Northwoods you claim to know quite well.

[SA210]

:lol the loser lies again

No meltdown, just stating what you actually are, tbh. But u know that.

And thanks for confirming that u only want a quote so that you can spin it.

As far as an opportunity goes, the proof is there, I don't have your mindset of vendettas like you, but thanks also for admitting how you normally think.

Let's me know how badly I actually am in ur head.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol the loser lies again

No meltdown, just stating what you actually are, tbh. But u know that.

And thanks for confirming that u only want a quote so that you can spin it.

As far as an opportunity goes, the proof is there, I don't have your mindset of vendettas like you, but thanks also for admitting how you normally think.

Let's me know how badly I actually am in ur head.So I am right and you are wrong: there was no plan in Operation Northwoods to kill US citizens.

The only question is were you lying about it or just completely ignorant.

Now you are doing everything in your power to not talk about Operation Northwoods.

You will never talk about it again.

[Parker2112]

Page 8. Paragraph 3.A. Now Chump, stfu and gtfo, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Page 8. Paragraph 3.A. Now Chump, stfu and gtfo, tbh.There is no mention of that ship's being manned. You made a faulty assumption.

[Parker2112]

Page 8. Paragraph 4. Planning terror campaigns in urban centers, which involve the detonation of bombs in public places.

[ChumpDumper]

Page 8. Paragraph 4. Planning terror campaigns in urban centers, which involve the detonation of bombs in public places.Plastic bombs used "to the extent of wounding" Cuban refugees -- not US citizens.

Are you reading this for the first time?

[Parker2112]

A ship without anyone on board would not serve this purpose. We have to assume they would sink a ship with sailors on board.

[Parker2112]

Bombs detonated in public places within the U.S., yeah that just gets honorable mention, tbh. Pretty sure they aren't planning fatalities, but also pretty sure fatalities would help their cause, and that these planners wouldn't be opposed, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

A ship without anyone on board would not serve this purpose. We have to assume they would sink a ship with sailors on board.No, because in the very next paragraph they talk of sinking unmanned ships elsewhere.

Why do you assume that would be the only plan in this entire document that would kill potentially hundreds of sailors and why would their deaths be necessary if actual deaths were not necessary in any other plan -- especially the ones that include sinking boats?

[Parker2112]

And that whole "load a plane with CIA operatives, replace it midflight with a drone flight for later destruction...," I'll give that an honorable mention as well.

[ChumpDumper]

Bombs detonated in public places within the U.S., yeah that just gets honorable mention, tbh. Pretty sure they aren't planning fatalities, but also pretty sure fatalities would help their cause, and that these planners wouldn't be opposed, tbh.Sorry, it's not in the document.

SA210's claim is that was the plan. It's not the plan.

[ChumpDumper]

And that whole "load a plane with CIA operatives, replace it midflight with a drone flight for later destruction...," I'll give that an honorable mention as well.You are reading this for the first time.

I'm glad you learned this had nothing to do with planning the killing of US citizens.

SA210 was wrong.

[Parker2112]

Lets give a shout out to the lying, conniving, scheming, murderous, nefarious depths the MIC will go to start a war, tbh. Of which casualties serve the end goal, and are never ruled out even when not explicitly sought.

[Parker2112]

Bullshit. They sink a ship with sailors on it. Casualties are almost certain.

[ChumpDumper]

Lets give a shout out to the lying, conniving, scheming, murderous, nefarious depths the MIC will go to start a war, tbh. Of which casualties serve the end goal, and are never ruled out even when not explicitly sought.Let's give a shout out to you for being so gracious in your admission that operation Northwoods had nothing to do with the killing of US citizens. :tu

[Parker2112]

Lol you trying to make bond for murderous neocon MIC devils.

[Parker2112]

If you blow up a bomb in public, and bystanders die, is it murder?

[Parker2112]

If you sink a ship and sailors drown is it murder?

[Parker2112]

If you stage an attack on a US base, and US troops die, is it murder?

[ChumpDumper]

Bullshit. They sink a ship with sailors on it. Casualties are almost certain.Bullshit, there is nothing about the ship's being manned. US casualties are explicitly avoided in the other plans when only one or two would be killed.

Why would they want hundreds of deaths? Why would they be necessary here if they were not necessary anywhere else they planned to fake deaths?

Why could they not fake deaths like they planned to in the other plans?

[ChumpDumper]

If you sink a ship and sailors drown is it murder?If you sink a ship and no one is on it, do you kill anyone?

[Parker2112]

If you blow up ammo on a USS base and start fires, and soldiers die, is it murder?

[Parker2112]

If you blow up planes on a US base and bystanders die, is it murder?

[Parker2112]

If you send mortar into a US base, and soldiers die, is it murder?

[ChumpDumper]

If you blow up a bomb in public, and bystanders die, is it murder?


If you sink a ship and sailors drown is it murder?


If you stage an attack on a US base, and US troops die, is it murder?


If you blow up ammo on a USS base and start fires, and soldiers die, is it murder?Not in any of the plans.

In fact, when anything is specifically mentioned, it is explicit that no one actually dies.

[Parker2112]

If you set fires on US ships and sailors die as a result, is it murder?

[ChumpDumper]

You can plan any of these things without deaths.

That's the whole point of this document.

Good on you for actually reading it after I forced you to. :tu

SA210 couldn't even do that.

[Parker2112]

A remember the maine incident involving an empty ship? No logical premise supports your lea of logic whatsoever.

[ChumpDumper]

A remember the maine incident involving an empty ship? No logical premise supports your lea of logic whatsoever.The entire document supports that logic.

[Parker2112]

Good on you for bringing awareness to the info, after I let you open the door to a discussion of all that damning information. :king

[ChumpDumper]

Good on you for bringing awareness to the info, after I let you open the door to a discussion of all that damning information. :kingActually, you wanted to force my silence like a fascist. Instead, you ended up proving why SA210 was wrong.

[Parker2112]

The document supports the idea that these bastards only goal was invading Cuba, and they didn't care what carnage they had to leave to do so. That they didn't announce a body count doesn't alleviate their intent to blow shit up, set fire, sink ships with sailors aboard, initiate terror campaigns in major American cities, and use mortar rockets to shell American facilities, without regard to fatalities. Fatalities are a given. They in fact serve the cause. They were planned for.

[ChumpDumper]

The document supports the idea that these bastards only goal was invading Cuba, and they didn't care what carnage they had to leave to do so. That they didn't announce a body count doesn't alleviate their intent to blow shit up, set fire, sink ships with sailors aboard, initiate terror campaigns in major American cities, and use mortar rockets to shell American facilities, without regard to fatalities. Fatalities are a given. They in fact serve the cause. They were planned for.Fatalities were not a given and they were explicitly to be avoided. No real deaths were necessary for what they were proposing. If they wanted deaths, they wouldn't have explicitly planned to avoid them.

[Parker2112]

"Remember the Maine" incidents involve sailors.

[Parker2112]

Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Malice aforethought n. 1) the conscious intent to cause death or great bodily harm to another person before a person commits the crime. Such malice is a required element to prove first degree murder. 2) a general evil and depraved state of mind in which the person is unconcerned for the lives of others. Thus, if a person uses a gun to hold up a bank and an innocent bystander is killed in a shoot-out with police, there is malice aforethought.

[Parker2112]

Thus any death would be a murder. Blood on the hands of murderous government officials.

[ChumpDumper]

"Remember the Maine" incidents involve sailors.Nope. The second plan proves you wrong. There is no reason to believe the first one would involve killing sailors. No need.


Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Malice aforethought n. 1) the conscious intent to cause death or great bodily harm to another person before a person commits the crime. Such malice is a required element to prove first degree murder. 2) a general evil and depraved state of mind in which the person is unconcerned for the lives of others. Thus, if a person uses a gun to hold up a bank and an innocent bystander is killed in a shoot-out with police, there is malice aforethought.Thanks for proving the intent to kill or cause great bodily harm wasn't there.

See what happens when you actually read the crap you post? :tu

[Parker2112]

I appreciate you helping out with Operation Northwoods awareness Chump. Goodnight :sleep

[Parker2112]

Read sentence 2. Then shake it off.

[ChumpDumper]

I appreciate you helping out with Operation Northwoods awareness Chump. Goodnight :sleepThanks for proving SA210 wrong after he tried to help you.

[ChumpDumper]

Read sentence 2. Then shake it off.I did. You proved they were concerned with the document you posted.

Thanks again.

[Parker2112]

Just fyi: "The Maine is best known for her catastrophic loss in Havana Harbor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_Harbor) on the evening of 15 February 1898. Sent to protect U.S. interests during the Cuban revolt against Spain, she exploded suddenly without warning and sank quickly, killing nearly three quarters of her crew. The cause and responsibility for her sinking remained unclear after a board of inquiry. Nevertheless, popular opinion in the U.S., fanned by inflammatory articles printed in the "Yellow Press (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)" by William Randolph Hearst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst) and Joseph Pulitzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pulitzer), blamed Spain. The phrase "Remember the Maine, to Hell with Spain!" became a rallying cry for action, which came with the Spanish–American War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish%E2%80%93American_War) later that year. While the sinking of the Maine was not a direct cause for action, it served as a catalyst, accelerating the approach to a diplomatic impasse between the U.S. and Spain."

[Parker2112]

Key language being "killing nearly three quarters of her crew"

[ChumpDumper]

Just fyi: "The Maine is best known for her catastrophic loss in Havana Harbor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_Harbor) on the evening of 15 February 1898. Sent to protect U.S. interests during the Cuban revolt against Spain, she exploded suddenly without warning and sank quickly, killing nearly three quarters of her crew. The cause and responsibility for her sinking remained unclear after a board of inquiry. Nevertheless, popular opinion in the U.S., fanned by inflammatory articles printed in the "Yellow Press (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)" by William Randolph Hearst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst) and Joseph Pulitzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Pulitzer), blamed Spain. The phrase "Remember the Maine, to Hell with Spain!" became a rallying cry for action, which came with the Spanish–American War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish%E2%80%93American_War) later that year. While the sinking of the Maine was not a direct cause for action, it served as a catalyst, accelerating the approach to a diplomatic impasse between the U.S. and Spain."Just fyi: it wouldn't be necessary to kill anyone to pull that off.

[Parker2112]

So if they wanted this type of incident, sailors dying is a must, or else its something else entirely.

[ChumpDumper]

Key language being "killing nearly three quarters of her crew"Yeah, that key language down't exist in Operation Northwoods.

[Parker2112]

But people did die, Chump. Its history.

[ChumpDumper]

So if they wanted this type of incident, sailors dying is a must, or else its something else entirely.Absolutely not, as you proved in section b of the "Maine" plan.

[ChumpDumper]

But people did die, Chump. Its history.Who died in the execution of Operation Northwoods?

[Parker2112]

If I say I'm making a beef steak, does it inherently mean a cow will have been killed chump?

[Parker2112]

r u drunk right now. Y or N.

[Parker2112]

Kennedy.

[ChumpDumper]

If I say I'm making a beef steak, does it inherently mean a cow will have been killed chump?Not if you don't make a real steak.

[ChumpDumper]

r u drunk right now. Y or N.N


Kennedy.Are you saying the US military killed JFK? Y or N.

[SA210]

:lmao this is awesome. Chump flat out lies, and in his lying he admits the govt actually did plot attacks and that it was a planned conspiracy to fool Americans into war.


:lmao priceless. Thanks for admitting the govt lies us into war with false flags, chump :tu

crofl

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao this is awesome. Chump flat out lies, and in his lying he admits the govt actually did plot attacks and that it was a planned conspiracy to fool Americans into war.It is awesome. the guy you were trying to help actually helped me prove you wrong.


:lmao priceless. Thanks for admitting the govt lies us into war with false flags, chump :tu

croflI never said they haven't. I said there were no plans to kill US citizens in Operation Northwoods.

You didn't read it. Parker decided to and proved you wrong.

[SA210]

:lol the compulsive liar lies some more

[ChumpDumper]

I completely believe you still haven't read it, but I will accept that you did and were too angry to continue after you discovered you were wrong.

[SA210]

I know u will keep lying, u have never been an honest poster. It's expected. I'm sorry you got proven wrong about your government. It's ok, u can post 78, 000 more butthurt lies though to make urself feel better. Whatever helps u keep the pussy away :lmao

[Parker2112]

N

Are you saying the US military killed JFK? Y or N.
N. To say the US military killed JFK would be preposterous. Did he die as a result of Northwoods? No one but the MIC collaborators can say with certainty.

[ChumpDumper]

I know u will keep lying, u have never been an honest poster. It's expected. I'm sorry you got proven wrong about your government. It's ok, u can post 78, 000 more butthurt lies though to make urself feel better. Whatever helps u keep the pussy away :lmaoWhatever keeps you discussing me and not Operation Northwoods.

I broke you again.

[ChumpDumper]

N. To say the US military killed JFK would be preposterous. Did he die as a result of Northwoods? No one but the MIC collaborators can say with certainty.So you are saying JFK was assassinated by the MIC?

Y or N.

[Axegrinder]

It was ET on the grassy knoll....I seen't it

[SA210]

:lmao chump claiming he broke someone on the internets lol


How sad his life must be to make up fake victories and lie for lack of a life.

I log off not giving one damn about an internet addict, and go contribute to the world and live life. Meanwhile chump stays online while others live, the whole time he's so broken and hates himself so much he snipes at anything online that he can, for a living 24/7 :lmao

:lol broken
:lol coper

[Parker2112]

So you are saying JFK was assassinated by the MIC?

Y or N.

I said collaborators who were MIC agents. Does that mean the MIC as a whole?

Y or N.

[Parker2112]

Winehole! Hope your good fella. Glad to see you still around, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao chump claiming he broke someone on the internets lol


How sad his life must be to make up fake victories and lie for lack of a life.

I log off not giving one damn about an internet addict, and go contribute to the world and live life. Meanwhile chump stays online while others live, the whole time he's so broken and hates himself so much he snipes at anything online that he can, for a living 24/7 :lmao

:lol broken
:lol coperYep, all about me.

Nothing about Operation Northwoods.

That's how you know he's broken.


I said collaborators who were MIC agents. Does that mean the MIC as a whole?

Y or N.i don't know what you are getting at.

Just say who you think killed JFK.

[Parker2112]

Prescott Bush killed Kennedy.

[SA210]

Govt plans false flags to lie America into war. Glad chump admitted it. Another e-victory on chump I can laugh about, then log off and have a life and not think twice about it, while chump stays online forever bitter about it :lmao

I'll prove it eats him alive. He'll post again trying to save face lol

[Parker2112]

J/K!

[Axegrinder]

I'm old as fuck and this thing pre dates me...and mins from 6 pages on sports forum in 2013. We are fuckin doomed

[ChumpDumper]

Prescott Bush killed Kennedy.


J/K!Which is it?

[Wild Cobra]

You haven't posted why you are ok with Operation Northwoods.

If I recall correctly, operation Northwood was an idea met with scorn, and the general drafting it got in deep shit.

[Parker2112]

It was met with resounding approval in the Pentagon. white House...not so much. Kennedy fired the chairman of the Joint Chiefs because of it. Then he was given a high ranking UN position.

[Wild Cobra]

It was met with resounding approval in the Pentagon. white House...not so much. Kennedy fired the chairman of the Joint Chiefs because of it. Then he was given a high ranking UN position.
So why are you bringing this 50 year old shit up?

Slow news day?

[Parker2112]

Aint nuthin' changed but some pages on a calendar, brah.

[Wild Cobra]

Aint nuthin' changed but some pages on a calendar, brah.

Are you trying to compare Obomba to kennedy? No comparison. Obomba may go for such ideas.

[cheguevara]

interesting stuff. thanks for posting

seems to have butthurt a lot of people too which is an added bonus :lol

[SA210]

interesting stuff. thanks for posting

seems to have butthurt a lot of people too which is an added bonus :lol

:lmao I knew chump would be the first butthurt troll in this particular thread


:cry but but but ..the government would never do that to its own citizens :cry

[ChumpDumper]

Are you trying to compare Obomba to kennedy? No comparison. Obomba may go for such ideas.Yeah, JFK would only go for half ass invasion schemes and fuck them up.