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FuzzyLumpkins
09-09-2013, 08:14 PM
:lol

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/0909/George-Zimmerman-questioned-after-wife-calls-911-He-s-gonna-shoot-us

Can we say 'sociopath' yet?

boobie4three
09-09-2013, 08:23 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/krakee/zimmmmmm_zps1de53e64.gif (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/krakee/media/zimmmmmm_zps1de53e64.gif.html)

FuzzyLumpkins
09-09-2013, 08:26 PM
I can only assume that you are doing the vicarious thing. Fattie seems to be on a downward spiral nonetheless.

ChumpDumper
09-09-2013, 08:34 PM
His buds are going to have to stage another rescue for him.

Koolaid_Man
09-09-2013, 08:40 PM
His buds are going to have to stage another rescue for him.

the "thug black guy" in the white neighborhood defense was like the perfect scenario for this master criminal...I'm trying to figure out what he's gonna use on wife...

DMC
09-09-2013, 08:55 PM
:lol

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/0909/George-Zimmerman-questioned-after-wife-calls-911-He-s-gonna-shoot-us

Can we say 'sociopath' yet?

Your blog is probably on fiyah!

cheguevara
09-09-2013, 09:00 PM
His buds are going to have to stage another rescue for him.

they could always talk to "the press"

people would be informed

boutons_deux
09-09-2013, 09:13 PM
scumbag
shitbag
greasebag
psychopathic liar
dickless wannabe macho
bully
NRA hero
gun fellatin sicko

jack sommerset
09-09-2013, 09:49 PM
George is human. Killing a 17 year old in self defense then standing trial in front of the world has taken it's toll on our brother. Hopefully time will heal his wounds. Include him in your prayers tonight. God bless

pgardn
09-09-2013, 10:02 PM
His wife is as nutty as he is.

Go figure...

CosmicCowboy
09-10-2013, 07:06 AM
The estranged wife of George Zimmerman opted not to press charges against her husband Monday after police in Florida responded to her sobbing 911 call reporting he had punched her father and was threatening them with a gun.

"I'm really scared,'' Shellie Zimmerman can be heard telling Lake Mary, Fla., police in an audio recording of a 911 call placed around 2 p.m. Monday to authorities in the suburb northeast of Orlando.

Zimmerman was acquitted in July in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in a case that captured the nation's attention and put a spotlight on Florida's self-defense gun laws.

Police allowed Zimmerman to go free Monday afternoon after questioning him outside the home where Shellie Zimmerman placed the 911 call. Police Chief Steve Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman and her father decided not to press charges after consulting with an attorney.

Police deputy chief Colin Morgan said earlier that police held George Zimmerman in "investigative detention'' while they investigated the dispute.

A police spokesman said Zimmerman and his wife, who filed for divorce last week, were blaming each other for starting the fight at her father's home.

In an audio recording of Shellie Zimmerman's 911 call, she can be heard saying Zimmerman smashed an iPad she was holding and cut it with a pocket knife, struck her father in the nose and threatened both while putting a hand on a gun.

Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun, and Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman later dropped her claim that a gun was involved.

"Domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said.

The dispute "was between him and his wife and her father,'' Morgan said. "There were some allegations that there had been an assault, but we could not confirm any of it.''

Orlando TV station WKMG reported that Shellie Zimmerman's parents, David and Machelle Dean, live at the home.

WKMG's SKY 6 helicopter showed at least a half-dozen police squad cars outside the house.

In the divorce petition, Shellie Zimmerman says she and her husband separated a month after Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, was acquitted of any crime for fatally shooting Martin, a black teenager, last July. The verdict sparked protests across the nation.

boobie4three
09-10-2013, 07:41 AM
I can only assume that you are doing the vicarious thing. Fattie seems to be on a downward spiral nonetheless.

George Zimmerman lives rent-free in the heads of you Hispanic hating racists.

AntiChrist
09-10-2013, 08:04 AM
:lol

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/0909/George-Zimmerman-questioned-after-wife-calls-911-He-s-gonna-shoot-us

Can we say 'sociopath' yet?


No gun
No assault
No charges
No story

But, great thread

Trill Clinton
09-10-2013, 08:33 AM
The estranged wife of George Zimmerman opted not to press charges against her husband Monday after police in Florida responded to her sobbing 911 call reporting he had punched her father and was threatening them with a gun.

"I'm really scared,'' Shellie Zimmerman can be heard telling Lake Mary, Fla., police in an audio recording of a 911 call placed around 2 p.m. Monday to authorities in the suburb northeast of Orlando.

Zimmerman was acquitted in July in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in a case that captured the nation's attention and put a spotlight on Florida's self-defense gun laws.

Police allowed Zimmerman to go free Monday afternoon after questioning him outside the home where Shellie Zimmerman placed the 911 call. Police Chief Steve Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman and her father decided not to press charges after consulting with an attorney.

Police deputy chief Colin Morgan said earlier that police held George Zimmerman in "investigative detention'' while they investigated the dispute.

A police spokesman said Zimmerman and his wife, who filed for divorce last week, were blaming each other for starting the fight at her father's home.

In an audio recording of Shellie Zimmerman's 911 call, she can be heard saying Zimmerman smashed an iPad she was holding and cut it with a pocket knife, struck her father in the nose and threatened both while putting a hand on a gun.

Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun, and Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman later dropped her claim that a gun was involved.

"Domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said.

The dispute "was between him and his wife and her father,'' Morgan said. "There were some allegations that there had been an assault, but we could not confirm any of it.''

Orlando TV station WKMG reported that Shellie Zimmerman's parents, David and Machelle Dean, live at the home.

WKMG's SKY 6 helicopter showed at least a half-dozen police squad cars outside the house.

In the divorce petition, Shellie Zimmerman says she and her husband separated a month after Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, was acquitted of any crime for fatally shooting Martin, a black teenager, last July. The verdict sparked protests across the nation.

The question of the gun became confused later when police told reporters there was no gun involved, but George Zimmerman's attorney told CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 that he believed his client had a firearm on him.
"He acted appropriately. He never took the weapon out," said Mark O'Mara, who is also a CNN legal analyst. O'Mara said he never saw the gun.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/us/george-zimmerman-detained/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

semen shield CC, there are conflicting reports of whether zimmerman was armed coming from the police and his lawyer. which one do you believe and why would the other lie?

boutons_deux
09-10-2013, 08:52 AM
didn't matter whether greasebag had a gun or not. His wife, this being FL, only had to "feel", "believe", aka "faith-based killing", threatened to shoot him dead.

ChumpDumper
09-10-2013, 10:12 AM
they could always talk to "the press"

people would be informedThat's exactly what they did last time. See how that works?

lol butthurt

AntiChrist
09-10-2013, 11:02 AM
didn't matter whether greasebag had a gun or not. His wife, this being FL, only had to "feel", "believe", aka "faith-based killing", threatened to shoot him dead.


Head hitting concrete never killed anyone. Well, except for this guy

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/09/09/man-attacked-in-possible-bias-incident-in-union-square-dies/


I love how this is called a "bias incident". :lol

Trill Clinton
09-10-2013, 11:52 AM
so this coward can kick a elderly's person's ass but can't defend himself against a scrawny teen? okay

AntiChrist
09-10-2013, 01:04 PM
so this coward can kick a elderly's person's ass but can't defend himself against a scrawny teen? okay

No evidence of that, but he did break an iPad.

Creepn
09-10-2013, 01:12 PM
No evidence of that, but he did break an iPad.

lol @ your champion. He is one confrontational mutha that starts confrontations.

AntiChrist
09-10-2013, 01:19 PM
lol @ your champion. He is one confrontational mutha that starts confrontations.


Did you hear that he also got a speeding ticket? <gasp>

Th'Pusher
09-10-2013, 01:22 PM
Did you hear that he also got a speeding ticket? <gasp>
Are you equating speeding with domestic violence?

Creepn
09-10-2013, 01:22 PM
Did you hear that he also got a speeding ticket? <gasp>

He got 2 actually and got fined over $200 this time. Didn't learn the first time, just as he's not learning the first time he murdered a kid.

Creepn
09-10-2013, 01:23 PM
Is it true that Zimmerman dared her father to come outside and take the gun away from him? Wow.

AntiChrist
09-10-2013, 01:30 PM
Is it true that Zimmerman dared her father to come outside and take the gun away from him? Wow.

What if it's not true?

Creepn
09-10-2013, 01:34 PM
What if it's not true?

Why should I answer your question when you didnt answer mine?

FuzzyLumpkins
09-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Have to love Darrin defending the toolbag.


"He's in his car, and he continually has his hand on his gun and saying, 'step closer,'" Shellie Zimmerman tells the dispatcher during the 911 call. "He's just threatening all of us with his firearm, and he's gonna shoot us. He punched my dad in the nose. My dad has a mark on his face."

AntiChrist
09-10-2013, 07:03 PM
Have to love Darrin defending the toolbag.


Not defending, just laughing at your premature ejac thread.

FuzzyLumpkins
09-10-2013, 07:33 PM
Not defending, just laughing at your premature ejac thread.

So then you do not stand by what you say. Seems to be pretty much the story of your life.

Trill Clinton
09-10-2013, 08:55 PM
George Zimmerman
Police Chief Says
I Wouldn't Want to Be His Neighbor

Exclusive
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2013/09/09/0909-zimmermand-1.jpg
One person is on record that George Zimmerman is not the guy you want as your next door neighbor ... the Chief of Police of Lake Mary, Florida.

Police Chief Steve Bracknell tells TMZ, he's frustrated Shellie Zimmerman changed her story. She now says George did not have his hand on a gun in a threatening manner while arguing with her father.

Chief Bracknell says of Zimmerman, "The guy just can't stay out of the news" -- referring to the Trayvon Martin killing, speeding tickets and now this. Bracknell says, "You'd think he'd get the heck out of Dodge."

We're told Shellie recanted her story after talking to her lawyer. The Chief said because of her flip-flopping, "There was not enough to affect an arrest, unfortunately."

Bracknell seems concerned that Zimmerman is bent on causing trouble, saying, "It's smoke, smoke smoke. Is there a fire somewhere? Lord knows."

We asked him if he'd feel safe if Zimmerman was his next door neighbor. The Chief was clear ... "I would not want to be the neighbor of George Zimmerman."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/09/police-chief-neighbor-george-zimmerman-shellie-trayvon-martin/#ixzz2eWOrFgLr
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spursncowboys
09-10-2013, 08:59 PM
In re mrs zimmerman, this reminds me of the clayton bigsby skit

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 11:23 AM
The question of the gun became confused later when police told reporters there was no gun involved, but George Zimmerman's attorney told CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 that he believed his client had a firearm on him.
"He acted appropriately. He never took the weapon out," said Mark O'Mara, who is also a CNN legal analyst. O'Mara said he never saw the gun.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/us/george-zimmerman-detained/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

semen shield CC, there are conflicting reports of whether zimmerman was armed coming from the police and his lawyer. which one do you believe and why would the other lie?

when the meat and potatoes of the story is that the wife calls the cops saying "he says he's gna shoot us" and then she says, oh I never saw a gun, it puts the story to bed

Creepn
09-11-2013, 11:34 AM
when the meat and potatoes of the story is that the wife calls the cops saying "he says he's gna shoot us" and then she says, oh I never saw a gun, it puts the story to bed

Where you get she said that?

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 11:48 AM
Where you get she said that?
the 911 call, for one. then this (the bolded part)

The estranged wife of George Zimmerman opted not to press charges against her husband Monday after police in Florida responded to her sobbing 911 call reporting he had punched her father and was threatening them with a gun.

"I'm really scared,'' Shellie Zimmerman can be heard telling Lake Mary, Fla., police in an audio recording of a 911 call placed around 2 p.m. Monday to authorities in the suburb northeast of Orlando.

Zimmerman was acquitted in July in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in a case that captured the nation's attention and put a spotlight on Florida's self-defense gun laws.

Police allowed Zimmerman to go free Monday afternoon after questioning him outside the home where Shellie Zimmerman placed the 911 call. Police Chief Steve Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman and her father decided not to press charges after consulting with an attorney.

Police deputy chief Colin Morgan said earlier that police held George Zimmerman in "investigative detention'' while they investigated the dispute.

A police spokesman said Zimmerman and his wife, who filed for divorce last week, were blaming each other for starting the fight at her father's home.

In an audio recording of Shellie Zimmerman's 911 call, she can be heard saying Zimmerman smashed an iPad she was holding and cut it with a pocket knife, struck her father in the nose and threatened both while putting a hand on a gun.

Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun, and Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman later dropped her claim that a gun was involved.

"Domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said.

The dispute "was between him and his wife and her father,'' Morgan said. "There were some allegations that there had been an assault, but we could not confirm any of it.''

Orlando TV station WKMG reported that Shellie Zimmerman's parents, David and Machelle Dean, live at the home.

WKMG's SKY 6 helicopter showed at least a half-dozen police squad cars outside the house.

In the divorce petition, Shellie Zimmerman says she and her husband separated a month after Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, was acquitted of any crime for fatally shooting Martin, a black teenager, last July. The verdict sparked protests across the nation.

Creepn
09-11-2013, 11:58 AM
the 911 call, for one. then this (the bolded part)

They settled.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 12:00 PM
They settled.
who settled? and settled on what?

Trill Clinton
09-11-2013, 12:51 PM
when the meat and potatoes of the story is that the wife calls the cops saying "he says he's gna shoot us" and then she says, oh I never saw a gun, it puts the story to bed



yea it does but anyone with a lick of common sense and a 3rd eye can see that her original claims are true but the coward agreed to give her and her dad some hush money, which is why she retracted her story. i knew it was going to happen as soon as the story came out.

Trill Clinton
09-11-2013, 12:53 PM
also ironic that the ipad used to record the alleged assault was smashed, similar to aaron hernandez.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 01:47 PM
yea it does but anyone with a lick of common sense and a 3rd eye can see that her original claims are true but the coward agreed to give her and her dad some hush money, which is why she retracted her story. i knew it was going to happen as soon as the story came out.

http://collisionrevolutional.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/reaching-hand.jpg

FuzzyLumpkins
09-11-2013, 03:38 PM
the 911 call, for one. then this (the bolded part)

You mean the 911 call where she said he kept reaching for his gun and saying, 'come closer?'

Creepn
09-11-2013, 03:48 PM
Looks like it will all come down to the broken Ipad that Zimmerman said Shellie's father cracked over his head. lol.

Anybody find that believable? The father cracking an Ipad over that fat ass's head knowing 9/10 that he's packing a pistol?

AntiChrist
09-11-2013, 03:50 PM
allegations = fact


true story

TSA
09-11-2013, 04:08 PM
Zimmerman is still a piece of shit per par but how is this continually over looked?

"Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun, and Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman later dropped her claim that a gun was involved."

Sounds like someone was lying on the 911 call.

boutons_deux
09-11-2013, 04:25 PM
gz and his wife are shitbags, liars, sickos. Wonderfully, the FL justice system ferreted this out and rendered the correct verdict on the murder of TM.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 04:42 PM
Looks like it will all come down to the broken Ipad that Zimmerman said Shellie's father cracked over his head. lol.

Anybody find that believable? The father cracking an Ipad over that fat ass's head knowing 9/10 that he's packing a pistol?

is it more believable than a drug using kid with a history of violence attacking a creepy ass cracka?

Trill Clinton
09-11-2013, 04:47 PM
http://collisionrevolutional.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/reaching-hand.jpg

with zimmerman's history of family violence it is highly plausible.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 04:48 PM
plausibility is one thing, but stating is an outright fact is in fact, reaching

Trill Clinton
09-11-2013, 04:52 PM
plausibility is one thing, but stating is an outright fact is in fact, reaching

lemme retract that and say that he indeed kick his father in laws ass, threaten his wife with his gun and that is why she chose to record it for evidence. she chose not to press charges because he made a deal with her and her father and she destroyed the evidence by breaking the ipad, a la aaron hernandez.

i can't wait till they get the video from that ipad.

Creepn
09-11-2013, 04:56 PM
is it more believable than a drug using kid with a history of violence attacking a creepy ass cracka?

Hell no it's not more believable. Zimmerman got a history of physical confrontational violence and plenty of brushes with law enforcement. It all goes to show that he probably started the physical contact with Trayvon.

Besides, last I checked, weed don't make you want to fight.

TSA
09-11-2013, 04:59 PM
Hell no it's not more believable. Zimmerman got a history of physical confrontational violence and plenty of brushes with law enforcement. It all goes to show that he probably started the physical contact with Trayvon.

Besides, last I checked, weed don't make you want to fight.

I've got some stoner friends that love to fight. Besides, I'm sure he was referring to DXM.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 05:00 PM
Hell no it's not more believable. Zimmerman got a history of physical confrontational violence and plenty of brushes with law enforcement. It all goes to show that he probably started the physical contact with Trayvon.

Besides, last I checked, weed don't make you want to fight.
weed or not, trayvon had a history of fighting. my point is quit making assumptions because you think "you don't find something believable"

TSA
09-11-2013, 05:00 PM
"Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun, and Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman later dropped her claim that a gun was involved."



again, why is this ignored?

Creepn
09-11-2013, 05:01 PM
I've got some stoner friends that love to fight. Besides, I'm sure he was referring to DXM.

If that was the case then why didn't the Defense use it to scare more white people into believing that he was a drugged out violent black thug?

TSA
09-11-2013, 05:04 PM
If that was the case then why didn't the Defense use it to scare more white people into believing that he was a drugged out violent black thug?

It obviously wasn't necessary considering the verdict.

Creepn
09-11-2013, 05:05 PM
weed or not, trayvon had a history of fighting. my point is quit making assumptions because you think "you don't find something believable"
Trayvon got a history of getting into fights? Looks like you are the one assuming?

Creepn
09-11-2013, 05:06 PM
It obviously wasn't necessary considering the verdict.

Oh please.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 05:06 PM
Trayvon got a history of getting into fights? Looks like you are the one assuming?

yes, he did, and that doesn't even require assumption tbh

Trill Clinton
09-11-2013, 05:06 PM
weed or not, trayvon had a history of fighting. my point is quit making assumptions because you think "you don't find something believable"

what history? where is the proof?

Creepn
09-11-2013, 05:08 PM
yes, he did, and that doesn't even require assumption tbh

Show me.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 05:19 PM
Trayvon: “I lost da 1st round :) but won da 2nd nd 3rd.”
Friend: “Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting.”
Trayvon: “Nay im not done with fool….. he gone hav 2 see me again.”
Friend: “Nooo… Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?”



Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/23/3413343_p2/weed-fights-and-guns-trayvon-text.html#storylink=cpy[

FuzzyLumpkins
09-11-2013, 06:07 PM
Zimmerman is still a piece of shit per par but how is this continually over looked?

"Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said officers did not recover a gun, and Bracknell said Shellie Zimmerman later dropped her claim that a gun was involved."

Sounds like someone was lying on the 911 call.

Sounds like a story changed but at which end who knows. It's moot anyway shit isn't going to happen to him. He still seems to be on a downward spiral. Hopefully he doesn't kill anyone else.

Trill Clinton
09-11-2013, 07:14 PM
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/23/3413343_p2/weed-fights-and-guns-trayvon-text.html#storylink=cpy[




wait this is your evidence ? so you mean to tell me you're going to take the tweets of a fire lean sippin', gun totin', hoodie wearing thug as the truth?

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Shaq-points-laughs-and-leaves-press-conference.gif

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 08:33 PM
wait this is your evidence ? so you mean to tell me you're going to take the tweets of a fire lean sippin', gun totin', hoodie wearing thug as the truth?

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Shaq-points-laughs-and-leaves-press-conference.gif
who's word would you rather have? as opposed to the kid himself

Creepn
09-11-2013, 09:05 PM
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/23/3413343_p2/weed-fights-and-guns-trayvon-text.html#storylink=cpy[



So how you know the person he fought is a "creepy ass cracca"? Are you assuming that part?

Creepn
09-11-2013, 09:06 PM
wait this is your evidence ? so you mean to tell me you're going to take the tweets of a fire lean sippin', gun totin', hoodie wearing thug as the truth?

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Shaq-points-laughs-and-leaves-press-conference.gif

Lol all he got is a tweet. Zimmerman got police records.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 09:09 PM
So how you know the person he fought is a "creepy ass cracca"? Are you assuming that part?
that's trayvon's quote as well, according to the witness on the phone with him

Lol all he got is a tweet. Zimmerman got police records.
and do those police records prove guilt? nope

Creepn
09-11-2013, 09:14 PM
that's trayvon's quote as well, according to the witness on the phone with him

and do those police records prove guilt? nope

You didn't answer my question, are you assuming the guy he fought is white?

Seriously that's the stance your taking about police records? They sure do prove a whole lot more guilt than text from an adolescent teen trying to be hard.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 09:23 PM
You didn't answer my question, are you assuming the guy he fought is white?

Seriously that's the stance your taking about police records? They sure do prove a whole lot more guilt than text from an adolescent teen trying to be hard.

i never said the dude he fought was white. all i said was he has a history of fighting, and that he called zimmerman a creepy ass cracka

what part of the police record proves zimmerman's guilt in the trayvon martin case or in this latest 911 call?

Trill Clinton
09-11-2013, 09:54 PM
that's trayvon's quote as well, according to the witness on the phone with him

and do those police records prove guilt? nope

so you're assuming what they said and the tweets are true? you have no proof or police statements or school records? gotcha.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 09:55 PM
so you're assuming what they said and the tweets are true? you have no proof or police statements or school records? gotcha.

lol suddenly you want proof... a second ago you were so sure Zimmerman was guilty without any proof.

point made

Trill Clinton
09-11-2013, 10:03 PM
lol suddenly you want proof... a second ago you were so sure Zimmerman was guilty without any proof.

point made

i was sure he has a violent past, which he does and there is proof lol. i am sure he attacked his wife which she said and later retracted and i based that off of his violent past. you claimed trayvon had a violent past and the only proof you have are tweets lol.

what was your point?????

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 10:04 PM
i was sure he has a violent past, which he does and there is proof lol. i am sure he attacked his wife which she said and later retracted and i based that off of his violent past. you claimed trayvon had a violent past and the only proof you have are tweets lol.

what was your point?????

violent past =/= guilty of this crime

how can you possibly bitch and moan about the justice system if you are "so sure" this guy is guilty when there is never any evidence or proof at all

Creepn
09-11-2013, 10:11 PM
i never said the dude he fought was white. all i said was he has a history of fighting, and that he called zimmerman a creepy ass cracka

what part of the police record proves zimmerman's guilt in the trayvon martin case or in this latest 911 call?

You said,


is it more believable than a drug using kid with a history of violence attacking a creepy ass cracka?

I guess the confusion came from the bad grammar since it's a fragmented sentence. Looks like you said he has a history of fighting a white guy.

I was talking about his police reports that details his physical confrontations such as the one in a bar because he got busted letting a minor drink.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 10:12 PM
You said,


I guess the confusion came from the bad grammar since it's a fragmented sentence. Looks like you said he has a history of fighting a white guy.

I was talking about his police reports that details his physical confrontations such as the one in a bar because he got busted letting a minor drink.

^neither of which bear any relevance to the case at hand

Creepn
09-11-2013, 10:17 PM
^neither of which bear any relevance to the case at hand
WTF, we're not talking about the case. We are talking about this Shellie situation and George's past violence.

AntiChrist
09-11-2013, 10:20 PM
Don't worry -- he'll eventually be killed and the dumb mofo who kills him will go to prison.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 10:21 PM
WTF, we're not talking about the case. We are talking about this Shellie situation and George's past violence.

this case i was referring to is the shillie situation. there's nothing there. she calls 911 saying he has a gun and he's threatening us. then there's no gun. no story. some bitch getting a divorce trying to pull some shit

Creepn
09-11-2013, 10:23 PM
Don't worry -- he'll eventually be killed and the dumb mofo who kills him will go to prison.
He brought it all on himself when he targeted a black teen wearing a hoodie in the rain while walking home from the store.

Creepn
09-11-2013, 10:24 PM
this case i was referring to is the shillie situation. there's nothing there. she calls 911 saying he has a gun and he's threatening us. then there's no gun. no story. some bitch getting a divorce trying to pull some shit

Lawyer says different. You gotta be a damn fool if you don't think Zimmerman's paranoid ass isn't packing.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 10:26 PM
Lawyer says different. You gotta be a damn fool if you don't think Zimmerman's paranoid ass isn't packing.
i don't give 2 shits if zimmerman is panicking. i also don't give 2 shits if he gets convicted. i just think its hysterical how you like to jump to bold conclusions with nothing to back it up. guilty before proven innocent in your world. then you go bitching about how unfair the justice system is

Creepn
09-11-2013, 10:33 PM
i don't give 2 shits if zimmerman is panicking. i also don't give 2 shits if he gets convicted. i just think its hysterical how you like to jump to bold conclusions with nothing to back it up. guilty before proven innocent in your world. then you go bitching about how unfair the justice system is

I said "packing" not panicking. Lol it's really not a "bold" conclusion of what he's capable of when there are police records of his violent past. Did we forget he also killed an unarmed teenager?

Also, I really don't know why you are bitching when I originally said we will have to wait what comes out of the Ipad.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 10:37 PM
I said "packing" not panicking. Lol it's really not a "bold" conclusion of what he's capable of when there are police records of his violent past. Did we forget he also killed an unarmed teenager?

Also, I really don't know why you are bitching when I originally said we will have to wait what comes out of the Ipad.

you responded to me first....

when the meat and potatoes of the story is that the wife calls the cops saying "he says he's gna shoot us" and then she says, oh I never saw a gun, it puts the story to bed


Where you get she said that?


its a very bold conclusion since you have nothing to show what happened on that day. you have records that tell me what zimmerman did several years ago. in the court of law that bears no weight. the lawyer cant walk in and say "hey zimmerman did this in the past, therefore he's violent and he MUST have assaulted them with a gun."

and i agree, lets see what comes out of the ipad. if they uncover proof that he's guilty, then good, his ass deserves to get thrown in the slammer. if not, he should walk free. innocent until proven guilty. once proven guilty, fuck 'em. you act like i personally care about GZ's well being.

Creepn
09-11-2013, 10:46 PM
you responded to me first....





its a very bold conclusion since you have nothing to show what happened on that day. you have records that tell me what zimmerman did several years ago. in the court of law that bears no weight. the lawyer cant walk in and say "hey zimmerman did this in the past, therefore he's violent and he MUST have assaulted them with a gun."

and i agree, lets see what comes out of the ipad. if they uncover proof that he's guilty, then good, his ass deserves to get thrown in the slammer. if not, he should walk free. innocent until proven guilty. once proven guilty, fuck 'em. you act like i personally care about GZ's well being.

You conveniently skipped over this important tidbit:


Looks like it will all come down to the broken Ipad that Zimmerman said Shellie's father cracked over his head. lol.

It's funny you should say that we shouldn't judge based on the past because that is exactly what you did when you brought up Trayvon's texts. Anyway, you can have the last word and we'll just agree to disagree for now.

spurraider21
09-11-2013, 10:48 PM
You conveniently skipped over this important tidbit:



It's funny you should say that we shouldn't judge based on the past because that is exactly what you did when you brought up Trayvon's texts. Anyway, you can have the last word and we'll just agree to disagree for now.

i brought up trayvons texts to prove a point that you shouldn't judge somebody off their past. you said something like "its not hard to believe somebody with GZ's past would do this" and i responded with the trayvon thing to make a parallel argument to show how bogus it is

Nbadan
09-13-2013, 12:38 AM
Where did the gun go? Assault? Abuse? Littering? Will Zimmerman ever be arrested for anything? dude is like white OJ..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1HCn8cWhA#t=155

ChumpDumper
09-13-2013, 02:45 AM
Zimmerman will kill again.

He has a taste for it now.

DUNCANownsKOBE
09-13-2013, 05:46 AM
I said "packing" not panicking.
:lmao spursraiders21 has the reading comprehension skills of a 3rd grader

boobie4three
09-13-2013, 10:33 AM
Shellie Zimmerman: How bad was that news conference?
By Hal Boedeker
Staff writer
9:21 a.m. EDT, September 12, 2013

If Shellie Zimmerman wants her marriage to George Zimmerman to end quietly, she should avoid holding press conferences that become disasters.

She should avoid press conferences in general, but that one Wednesday? Ouch.

How bad was that conference with Shellie's attorney Kelly Sims?

"Long and at times bizarre," WESH-Channel 2 anchor Syan Rhodes said. WESH anchor Jim Payne found it "one of the most bizarre displays I think I have ever seen."

Robin Roberts of ABC's "Good Morning America" called the press conference "rambling." ABC's Matt Gutman described Sims' performance as "often theatrical" at 40 minutes.

Pictures: 2013 Surf Expo Fashion Show

Sims' melodramatic presentation included references to the Batmobile, Siegfried & Roy, Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry and the Tower of Terror.

"Zimmerman's wife fires back," "GMA" headlined the story.

The consensus: She and her attorney missed the target.

But the news conference reflected a story -- the Zimmermans' domestic dispute as they divorce -- that was overblown and confused from the start.

I think millions share Shellie's hope that the marriage ends quietly. The best way for that to happen is for George and Shellie to stay out of the spotlight.

We beg you: Please. You'll help yourselves. You'll do everyone a favor.


video at link

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-shellie-zimmerman-how-bad-was-news-conference-20130912,0,48410.post

boutons_deux
09-23-2013, 02:08 PM
Zimmerman goes into hiding to put divorce on hold

George Zimmerman was allowed to keep his gun after being recently acquitted for the murder of Trayvon Martin, but not even that can protect him from the divorce that his wife is demanding — so the former neighborhood watchman has reportedly gone into hiding.

On Sunday, a lawyer representing Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, told TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/22/george-zimmerman-divorce-served-papers-wife-shellie/) that they had been trying to track him down to serve divorce papers for the last week. The lawyer said that Zimmerman had been laying low ever since he allegedly threatened his wife with a gun and punched his father-in-law in the nose earlier this month (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/09/zimmerman-arrested-for-allegedly-threatening-wife-with-gun/).

According to TMZ, Zimmerman’s family had been in contact with him, but they insisted that they did not know where he was.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/23/zimmerman-goes-into-hiding-to-put-divorce-on-hold/

you right wingers sure know how to choose your heros: wanna-be macho men, bullies, liars who are really chickenshit assholes

boutons_deux
09-23-2013, 02:22 PM
...

Koolaid_Man
09-23-2013, 04:45 PM
Zimmerman goes into hiding to put divorce on hold

George Zimmerman was allowed to keep his gun after being recently acquitted for the murder of Trayvon Martin, but not even that can protect him from the divorce that his wife is demanding — so the former neighborhood watchman has reportedly gone into hiding.

On Sunday, a lawyer representing Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, told TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/22/george-zimmerman-divorce-served-papers-wife-shellie/) that they had been trying to track him down to serve divorce papers for the last week. The lawyer said that Zimmerman had been laying low ever since he allegedly threatened his wife with a gun and punched his father-in-law in the nose earlier this month (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/09/zimmerman-arrested-for-allegedly-threatening-wife-with-gun/).

According to TMZ, Zimmerman’s family had been in contact with him, but they insisted that they did not know where he was.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/23/zimmerman-goes-into-hiding-to-put-divorce-on-hold/

you right wingers sure know how to choose your heros: wanna-be macho men, bullies, liars who are really chickenshit assholes





^ :lol let's not forget their new found love for Vladimir

boobie4three
09-23-2013, 05:33 PM
Looking at my Putin and Zimmerman Fathead as we speak.

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 11:32 AM
His wife is as nutty as he is.

Go figure...
Women lie like hell when divorce is coming too. Isn't she the one who perjured herself when it came to the money?

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 11:35 AM
No gun
No assault
No charges
No story

But, great thread
As fuzzy as it's originator...

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 11:36 AM
Are you equating speeding with domestic violence?

Considering Shelly changed her story...

Well...

Believe as you wish.

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 11:40 AM
this case i was referring to is the shillie situation. there's nothing there. she calls 911 saying he has a gun and he's threatening us. then there's no gun. no story. some bitch getting a divorce trying to pull some shit

Yep, she probably figured they would believe her lie, that fell apart since he didn't bring it with him that day.

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 11:41 AM
He brought it all on himself when he targeted a black teen wearing a hoodie in the rain while walking home from the store.
You can stop reminding us of how stupid you are with making facts up. We already know.

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 11:43 AM
Zimmerman goes into hiding to put divorce on hold

George Zimmerman was allowed to keep his gun after being recently acquitted for the murder of Trayvon Martin, but not even that can protect him from the divorce that his wife is demanding — so the former neighborhood watchman has reportedly gone into hiding.

On Sunday, a lawyer representing Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, told TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/22/george-zimmerman-divorce-served-papers-wife-shellie/) that they had been trying to track him down to serve divorce papers for the last week. The lawyer said that Zimmerman had been laying low ever since he allegedly threatened his wife with a gun and punched his father-in-law in the nose earlier this month (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/09/zimmerman-arrested-for-allegedly-threatening-wife-with-gun/).

According to TMZ, Zimmerman’s family had been in contact with him, but they insisted that they did not know where he was.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/23/zimmerman-goes-into-hiding-to-put-divorce-on-hold/

you right wingers sure know how to choose your heros: wanna-be macho men, bullies, liars who are really chickenshit assholes




Which right winger here has that bag of shit as a hero? I don't recall anyone commending him for anything.

spurraider21
09-24-2013, 11:47 AM
:lmao spursraiders21 has the reading comprehension skills of a 3rd grader

misreading text =/= reading comprehension.

boutons_deux
09-24-2013, 12:04 PM
Which right winger here has that bag of shit as a hero? I don't recall anyone commending him for anything.

right wingers here were pulling hard for the shitbag white murderer to be acquitted for murdering an innocent black kid. When he was, they were overjoyed here, and around web. I've seen comments that "TM got what he deserved"

GZ gun fellator vigilante n!gg@-killer got LOTS of donations for his defense fund.

TSA
09-24-2013, 12:24 PM
right wingers here were pulling hard for the shitbag white murderer to be acquitted for murdering an innocent black kid. When he was, they were overjoyed here, and around web. I've seen comments that "TM got what he deserved"

GZ gun fellator vigilante n!gg@-killer got LOTS of donations for his defense fund.

Zimmerman is no hero, but Trayvon did get what he deserved.

ChumpDumper
09-24-2013, 02:17 PM
Zimmerman is no hero, but Trayvon did get what he deserved.Really?

That deserved death?

boutons_deux
09-24-2013, 02:27 PM
Zimmerman is no hero, but Trayvon did get what he deserved.

typical blood thirsty gun fellator. go suck a big, hard, stiff black one.

pgardn
09-24-2013, 03:01 PM
Zimmerman is no hero, but Trayvon did get what he deserved.

I don't see how Zimmerman could be charged with 2nd degree murder. Even if George is a nut job.

But the kid deserved to die? You are a trolling moron.

You and I have no clear idea what went down.
All we know is one person came armed. You assume Martin baited a guy into stalking him in order to jump him and kill him without a weapon? That's just stupid. Nothing in the evidence indicated this.

pgardn
09-24-2013, 03:05 PM
Women lie like hell when divorce is coming too. Isn't she the one who perjured herself when it came to the money?

I would not know this.

I have witnessed nutty people finding each other and the result is nutification cubed for each individual.

I am sorry you had a bad experience with the " fairer" sex.

cantthinkofanything
09-24-2013, 03:08 PM
I don't see how Zimmerman could be charged with 2nd degree murder. Even if George is a nut job.

But the kid deserved to die? You are a trolling moron.

You and I have no clear idea what went down.
All we know is one person came armed. You assume Martin baited a guy into stalking him in order to jump him and kill him without a weapon? That's just stupid. Nothing in the evidence indicated this.

All Trayvon had to do was keep his cool and he'd still be alive today. But he decided he'd keep it real and step up. It's tragic but it's the plight of the urban African American that he can't keep his shit together.

AntiChrist
09-24-2013, 03:11 PM
typical blood thirsty gun fellator. go suck a big, hard, stiff black one.

gun fellator derp derp fellate derp derp


You seem particularly obsessed with that word.

TSA
09-24-2013, 03:22 PM
Really?

That deserved death?People have died from a single punch. So yes, if you decide to assault someone who is armed and slam their head in the ground you've decided your own fate.

ChumpDumper
09-24-2013, 03:23 PM
People have died from a single punch. So yes, if you decide to assault someone who is armed and slam their head in the ground you've decided your own fate.So if George wasn't armed Trayvon wouldn't deserve death?

TSA
09-24-2013, 03:40 PM
I don't see how Zimmerman could be charged with 2nd degree murder. Even if George is a nut job.

But the kid deserved to die? You are a trolling moron.

You and I have no clear idea what went down.
All we know is one person came armed. You assume Martin baited a guy into stalking him in order to jump him and kill him without a weapon? That's just stupid. Nothing in the evidence indicated this.

I never said Martin baited anyone into stalking him, where did you get that from?

You should never assault anyone, it is illegal. You should really never assault anyone that is armed, it is illegal and foolish.

TSA
09-24-2013, 03:44 PM
So if George wasn't armed Trayvon wouldn't deserve death?When you decide to assault someone you run the risk of getting what you deserve. Who you decide to assault decides what you deserve.

ChumpDumper
09-24-2013, 03:53 PM
When you decide to assault someone you run the risk of getting what you deserve. Who you decide to assault decides what you deserve.So if he decided to assault an unarmed child, he wouldn't deserve death.

Great logic.

You've just elevated armed adult victims over unarmed child victims. Your obsession with guns has warped your morality.

Biernutz
09-24-2013, 04:15 PM
(On Sunday, a lawyer representing Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, told TMZ (http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/22/george-zimmerman-divorce-served-papers-wife-shellie/) that they had been trying to track him down to serve divorce papers for the last week. The lawyer said that Zimmerman had been laying low ever since he allegedly threatened his wife with a gun and punched his father-in-law in the nose earlier this month (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/09/zimmerman-arrested-for-allegedly-threatening-wife-with-gun/).

According to TMZ, Zimmerman’s family had been in contact with him, but they insisted that they did not know where he was. )

Zimm's wife lawyer told TMZ.........When you use TMZ to put out your info...Please......
What the NYT wouldn't take his call........

cantthinkofanything
09-24-2013, 04:22 PM
So if he decided to assault an unarmed child,

they're so cute at that age

http://blurbrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/picture-of-trayvon-trying-to-look-gangsta.jpg

TSA
09-24-2013, 04:22 PM
So if he decided to assault an unarmed child, he wouldn't deserve death.

You've just elevated armed adult victims over unarmed child victims.A unarmed child would not be physically able to give and decide what the assaulter deserves. Stop reaching.




Your obsession with guns has warped your morality.Same could be said for your morality as you seem to think it is okay for someone to assault another person and not deal with whatever the consequences may be.

ChumpDumper
09-24-2013, 05:17 PM
A unarmed child would not be physically able to give and decide what the assaulter deserves. Stop reaching.The punishment is solely determined by the ability of the victim to kill. SMH.



Same could be said for your morality as you seem to think it is okay for someone to assault another person and not deal with whatever the consequences may be.Straw man. I never said anything about no consequences. I asked you specifically if simple assault deserves death -- your answer is always if the victim has a gun.

ChumpDumper
09-24-2013, 05:18 PM
they're so cute at that age

http://blurbrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/picture-of-trayvon-trying-to-look-gangsta.jpgWasn't talking about him.

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 05:47 PM
right wingers here were pulling hard for the shitbag white murderer to be acquitted for murdering an innocent black kid. When he was, they were overjoyed here, and around web. I've seen comments that "TM got what he deserved"

GZ gun fellator vigilante n!gg@-killer got LOTS of donations for his defense fund.
Wanting proper due process does not mean one see him as a hero.

Think about what we have all said. Zimmerman is a scumbag. He killed another scumbag, and did it within the law.

That does not make him a hero.

Those of you wanting to see an innocent man prosecuted, are pathetic. More so than Zimmerman is.

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 05:49 PM
I would not know this.

I have witnessed nutty people finding each other and the result is nutification cubed for each individual.

I am sorry you had a bad experience with the " fairer" sex.
LOL...

I did have a bad experience with my ex. Why do you think I divorced her?

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 05:50 PM
gun fellator derp derp fellate derp derp


You seem particularly obsessed with that word.
LOL...

That's a pretty good Fuzzy impression!

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 05:52 PM
People have died from a single punch. So yes, if you decide to assault someone who is armed and slam their head in the ground you've decided your own fate.

Yes, Trayvon got what he deserved. Striking Zimmerman's head on the edge of the sidewalk could have been lethal.

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 05:53 PM
So if George wasn't armed Trayvon wouldn't deserve death?

I'll bet if Zimmerman wasn't armed, he would be dead, or mentally disabled from the strikes tom his head if they continued.

ChumpDumper
09-24-2013, 05:54 PM
I'll bet if Zimmerman wasn't armed, he would be dead, or mentally disabled from the strikes tom his head if they continued.lol innuendo

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 05:56 PM
lol innuendo
We will never know with any certainty. Will we?

Did you see the photo with the long strait gash at the back of his skull? That was from the edge of the sidewalk. A bit more force, and his skull could have been caved in.

What would you do if you were Zimmerman?

TSA
09-24-2013, 05:58 PM
Straw man. I never said anything about no consequences. I asked you specifically if simple assault deserves death -- your answer is always if the victim has a gun.

Funny you want to call straw man after bringing up unarmed children when we were specifically discussing the Zimmerman/Martin situation.

Simple assault.............LOL. In this situation it could only be considered simple assault because Zimmerman ended the attack. Had Zimmerman not been armed to defend himself he could have been beaten to death or suffered serious head injuries, then we are looking at murder or aggravated assault for Martin.

I can't answer your question specifically because it was a stupid question, not all assaults are the same. Each victim will respond differently depending on how threatened they feel. If they are armed and feel they need to use it to protect their life, more power to them.

Not everyone curls up in a ball like you when being assaulted.

TSA
09-24-2013, 06:05 PM
What would you do if you were Zimmerman?


I would have listened to the dispatch and stayed in my truck so I wouldn't have been in Zimmerman's situation

Now that we have that out of the way...........

Chump if you were on the ground getting your head bashed in and you were armed :lol how would you respond?

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 06:07 PM
I asked you specifically if simple assault deserves death -- your answer is always if the victim has a gun.
Damn strait.

If someone assaults me when I'm armed, they are dead. Period. No second thought. Not knowing their intent, it is them or me!

ChumpDumper
09-24-2013, 06:16 PM
We will never know with any certainty. Will we?

Did you see the photo with the long strait gash at the back of his skull? That was from the edge of the sidewalk. A bit more force, and his skull could have been caved in.

What would you do if you were Zimmerman?I would've followed procedure and not stalked the kid.


Funny you want to call straw man after bringing up unarmed children when we were specifically discussing the Zimmerman/Martin situation.I specifically mentioned children in the hypothetical. Your bad.


Simple assault.............LOL. In this situation it could only be considered simple assault because Zimmerman ended the attack. Had Zimmerman not been armed to defend himself he could have been beaten to death or suffered serious head injuries, then we are looking at murder or aggravated assault for Martin.Not in my hypothetical. Your bad.


I can't answer your question specifically because it was a stupid question, not all assaults are the same. Each victim will respond differently depending on how threatened they feel. If they are armed and feel they need to use it to protect their life, more power to them.

Not everyone curls up in a ball like you when being assaulted.You already answered. Your bad.


Now that we have that out of the way...........

Chump if you were on the ground getting your head bashed in and you were armed :lol how would you respond?I wouldn't get myself in that situation like Zimmerman did. He's an idiot. I am not.


Damn strait.

If someone assaults me when I'm armed, they are dead. Period. No second thought. Not knowing their intent, it is them or me!So you would have done that in school to the kids who bullied you so mercilessly?

Just kill them all?

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 06:27 PM
I would've followed procedure and not stalked the kid.

I wouldn't have followed him either. Again, George was a shithead.




So you would have done that in school to the kids who bullied you so mercilessly?

Just kill them all?
School? Kids you know? Compared to a stranger with unknown intent?

Chumpy... Your stupidity is showing again.

Does that apple taste like an orange?

ChumpDumper
09-24-2013, 06:29 PM
Well you should qualify your statement then.
Damn strait.

If someone assaults me when I'm armed, they are dead. Period. No second thought. Not knowing their intent, it is them or me!I'll give you a chance to amend your "kill 'em all" doctrine.

Wild Cobra
09-24-2013, 06:39 PM
Well you should qualify your statement then.I'll give you a chance to amend your "kill 'em all" doctrine.

It isn't a "kill 'em all" doctrine, you shithead.

Can you stick with the facts of what is said, or do you always have to change the meaning?

clambake
09-24-2013, 06:40 PM
"them" implies "all".

ChumpDumper
09-24-2013, 06:42 PM
Damn strait.

If someone assaults me when I'm armed, they are dead. Period. No second thought. Not knowing their intent, it is them or me!Them's the facts.

Shastafarian
09-24-2013, 06:56 PM
Is TSA a member of the UAS? UAS! UAS! UAS!

TSA
09-24-2013, 07:08 PM
I would've followed procedure and not stalked the kid. Called it.


I specifically mentioned children in the hypothetical. Your bad.I told you your hypothetical didn't apply and to stop reaching, seems you are the only one discussing your hypothetical.


Not in my hypothetical. Your bad.Again, try sticking to they topic being discussed which is Martin/Zimmerman.


You already answered. Your bad.I did answer, and my stance hasn't changed.


I wouldn't get myself in that situation like Zimmerman did. He's an idiot. I am not.Awwwww now look who doesn't want to play the hypothetical game.

TSA
09-24-2013, 07:11 PM
Let's make this easy Chump, did Zimmerman deserve to be assaulted?

pgardn
09-24-2013, 09:44 PM
Let's make this easy Chump, did Zimmerman deserve to be assaulted?

lets make this easy, what would you do if an unknown thug following you brandishing a gun indicated to you he was trained on you and got close enough for you to find an opening?

I personally would bash his head against a sidewalk!

POINT:

You don't know what went down. You think you know because one of the individuals involved was a young black male. Zimmerman may have flashed his piece at the kid at some point, you don't know that this did not occur.
So just stop it with the stupidity.

TSA
09-24-2013, 10:22 PM
lets make this easy, what would you do if an unknown thug following you brandishing a gun indicated to you he was trained on you and got close enough for you to find an opening?

I personally would bash his head against a sidewalk!

POINT:

You don't know what went down. You think you know because one of the individuals involved was a young black male. Zimmerman may have flashed his piece at the kid at some point, you don't know that this did not occur.
So just stop it with the stupidity.

:lmao @ a young black kid involved being my reason for supporting self defense.

TSA
09-24-2013, 10:23 PM
I'll touch in your other points later. That was funny.

pgardn
09-24-2013, 10:23 PM
All Trayvon had to do was keep his cool and he'd still be alive today. But he decided he'd keep it real and step up. It's tragic but it's the plight of the urban African American that he can't keep his shit together.

Bull Shit.

You don't know what went down before or during the scuffle, beat down, whatever...
You don't know.

pgardn
09-24-2013, 10:26 PM
:lmao @ a young black kid involved being my reason for supporting self defense.

So what would you do?

Just go along?

pgardn
09-24-2013, 10:31 PM
LOL...

I did have a bad experience with my ex. Why do you think I divorced her?

Wait, she divorced you. Might as well start pretending that I know exactly what your relationship was with your wife. You and TSA apparently know what happened between Martin and Zimmerman, I mean since you were there and all...

Creepn
09-24-2013, 10:34 PM
We will never know with any certainty. Will we?

Did you see the photo with the long strait gash at the back of his skull? That was from the edge of the sidewalk. A bit more force, and his skull could have been caved in.

What would you do if you were Zimmerman?
Lol @ "long". If one has to exaggerate, he already lost.

pgardn
09-24-2013, 10:43 PM
We will never know with any certainty. Will we?

Did you see the photo with the long strait gash at the back of his skull? That was from the edge of the sidewalk. A bit more force, and his skull could have been caved in.

What would you do if you were Zimmerman?

Not get out of the Fkn car with a gun.
Like he was told to do by 911.

TSA
09-24-2013, 10:47 PM
Bull Shit.

You don't know what went down before or during the scuffle, beat down, whatever...
You don't know.

Neither do you. All we have is the evidence presented in court. I believe Zimmerman is a piece of shit who should have stayed in his truck. I also believe Martin took Zimmerman by surprise and assaulted him. Don't assault armed people, don't get shot.

pgardn
09-24-2013, 10:59 PM
Neither do you. All we have is the evidence presented in court. I believe Zimmerman is a piece of shit who should have stayed in his truck. I also believe Martin took Zimmerman by surprise and assaulted him. Don't assault armed people, don't get shot.

So you believe Martin took Zimmerman by surprise and beat him up. Therefore Martin should die.

I believe I really don't know what happened. I wish no one would have died.

About sums it up...

TSA
09-24-2013, 11:52 PM
So you believe Martin took Zimmerman by surprise and beat him up. Therefore Martin should die.I believe Martin should not have assaulted Zimmerman, therefore anything happening after that point is on him.


I believe I really don't know what happened. I wish no one would have died.

About sums it up...No one really knows as it was just the two of them. I believe one was a dumbass wannabe cop, and the other assaulted the wrong guy. If there were any evidence proving otherwise I'd change my tune.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2013, 12:05 AM
Let's make this easy Chump, did Zimmerman deserve to be assaulted?
Maybe. Who knows?

boutons_deux
09-25-2013, 04:50 AM
"Martin should not have assaulted Zimmerman"

:lol How do you know that Z didn't strike first?

:lol How do you know TM didn't say something like "get off my back, you greasebag ****** beyotch" and Z hit him?

Wild Cobra
09-25-2013, 12:56 PM
Not get out of the Fkn car with a gun.
Like he was told to do by 911.

My God.

"We don't need you to do that" is not saying "don't do that"

You are a fucking idiot, or a fucking liar.

Which is it?

Also, he called the "non emergency" number. Not 911.

Do you know anything factual about the case?

pgardn
09-25-2013, 11:47 PM
My God.

"We don't need you to do that" is not saying "don't do that"

You are a fucking idiot, or a fucking liar.

Which is it?

Also, he called the "non emergency" number. Not 911.

Do you know anything factual about the case?

oh it was not 911, so the advice should not have been taken? REALLY? You play that card?

we don't need you to do that v. Don't do that...
What was implied you Dumb Fuck?
DONT FOLLOW HIM.

Seriously, who is the disingenuous idiot here Cobra?
Are you not the slightest bit ashamed?

Creepn
09-26-2013, 01:27 PM
lol Wild Cobra doesn't have any shame. He bowls naked.

boutons_deux
09-26-2013, 01:35 PM
Shellie Zimmerman Doubts Her Husband Killed Trayvon Martin In Self Defense (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/26/2684121/shellie-zimmerman-doubts-innocence/)

George Zimmerman’s estranged wife said she now doubts his innocence the night he killed Trayvon Martin. In her first interview (http://www.today.com/news/george-zimmermans-wife-i-have-doubts-i-also-believe-evidence-8C11257699) since a domestic violence incident at her home, Shellie Zimmerman said she thinks “anyone would doubt that innocence” that her husband shot Martin in self-defense.

In her interview with NBC’s Matt Lauer, she repeated what she told the 911 operator (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/09/2592521/report-george-zimmerman-taken-custody-altercation-involving-gun/) that Zimmerman punched his father-in-law and appeared to threaten them with a gun. “I really don’t know what he’s capable of,” she said. “This person that I’m married to, that I’m divorcing, I’ve kind of realized now that I don’t know him and I really don’t know what he’s capable of. I saw a look in his eyes that I’ve never seen before that day.”

SHELLIE ZIMMERMAN: I’m conflicted on that. I believe the evidence, but this revelation in my life has really helped me to take the blinders off and start to see things differently.

SHELLIE: I think anyone would doubt that innocence because I don’t know the person that I’ve been married to.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/26/2684121/shellie-zimmerman-doubts-innocence/

Th'Pusher
09-26-2013, 01:39 PM
Shellie Zimmerman Doubts Her Husband Killed Trayvon Martin In Self Defense (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/26/2684121/shellie-zimmerman-doubts-innocence/)

George Zimmerman’s estranged wife said she now doubts his innocence the night he killed Trayvon Martin. In her first interview (http://www.today.com/news/george-zimmermans-wife-i-have-doubts-i-also-believe-evidence-8C11257699) since a domestic violence incident at her home, Shellie Zimmerman said she thinks “anyone would doubt that innocence” that her husband shot Martin in self-defense.

In her interview with NBC’s Matt Lauer, she repeated what she told the 911 operator (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/09/2592521/report-george-zimmerman-taken-custody-altercation-involving-gun/) that Zimmerman punched his father-in-law and appeared to threaten them with a gun. “I really don’t know what he’s capable of,” she said. “This person that I’m married to, that I’m divorcing, I’ve kind of realized now that I don’t know him and I really don’t know what he’s capable of. I saw a look in his eyes that I’ve never seen before that day.”

SHELLIE ZIMMERMAN: I’m conflicted on that. I believe the evidence, but this revelation in my life has really helped me to take the blinders off and start to see things differently.

SHELLIE: I think anyone would doubt that innocence because I don’t know the person that I’ve been married to.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/26/2684121/shellie-zimmerman-doubts-innocence/



She'll be shot dead within a year.

Wild Cobra
09-26-2013, 02:58 PM
oh it was not 911, so the advice should not have been taken? REALLY? You play that card?

we don't need you to do that v. Don't do that...
What was implied you Dumb Fuck?
DONT FOLLOW HIM.

Seriously, who is the disingenuous idiot here Cobra?
Are you not the slightest bit ashamed?

Please...

I'm saying there were two lies out of two statement. Why should anything said, not be mocked?

Wild Cobra
09-26-2013, 02:58 PM
lol Wild Cobra doesn't have any shame. He bowls naked.
At least I have the goods not to be ashamed to...

pgardn
09-26-2013, 08:44 PM
Please...

I'm saying there were two lies out of two statement. Why should anything said, not be mocked?

A lie is an attempt to deceive. I was not doing this, so just refer to me as stupid and careless.
I really don't like playing games. I think I understand the feelings on both sides.
Roddy White, a black football player tweeted after Zimmerman was acquitted, that all the jurors should go home and shoot themselves.

I just hope to God there is a silent middle ground out there.
And not just for this incident.

pgardn
09-26-2013, 08:49 PM
Shellie Zimmerman Doubts Her Husband Killed Trayvon Martin In Self Defense (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/26/2684121/shellie-zimmerman-doubts-innocence/)

George Zimmerman’s estranged wife said she now doubts his innocence the night he killed Trayvon Martin. In her first interview (http://www.today.com/news/george-zimmermans-wife-i-have-doubts-i-also-believe-evidence-8C11257699) since a domestic violence incident at her home, Shellie Zimmerman said she thinks “anyone would doubt that innocence” that her husband shot Martin in self-defense.

In her interview with NBC’s Matt Lauer, she repeated what she told the 911 operator (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/09/2592521/report-george-zimmerman-taken-custody-altercation-involving-gun/) that Zimmerman punched his father-in-law and appeared to threaten them with a gun. “I really don’t know what he’s capable of,” she said. “This person that I’m married to, that I’m divorcing, I’ve kind of realized now that I don’t know him and I really don’t know what he’s capable of. I saw a look in his eyes that I’ve never seen before that day.”

SHELLIE ZIMMERMAN: I’m conflicted on that. I believe the evidence, but this revelation in my life has really helped me to take the blinders off and start to see things differently.

SHELLIE: I think anyone would doubt that innocence because I don’t know the person that I’ve been married to.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/26/2684121/shellie-zimmerman-doubts-innocence/




Reliable you think Bouton's?
No grudges?

boutons_deux
09-27-2013, 05:05 AM
Reliable you think Bouton's?
No grudges?

fucked up people, fucked up liars, and fucked up FL that didn't want to win their prosecution

pgardn
09-27-2013, 07:44 AM
fucked up people, fucked up liars, and fucked up FL that didn't want to win their prosecution
Now that I understand Florida law a bit better, it seemed to me that the prosecution shot to high, even if lesser charges could be brought. It was not palatable to the jury. Way too tough a case. Manslaughter of some sort and putting effort proving the lesser charge. I did not realize the prosecution had to go back and reargue for the judge to consider a lesser charge. That turned out to be very tough to do.

The guy chose to bring a firearm and chose to take on a potentially deadly confrontstional situation instead of letting the police handle it. And letting the police handle the situation was a perfectly reasonable option, the kid was not breaking into Zimmerman's home. This resulted in a death. IMO this is bringing a match close to fuel, even if you never wanted a fire to start. Reckless decision results in no legal penalty. This is very difficult to accept in hindsight.

boutons_deux
09-27-2013, 08:08 AM
This is very difficult to accept in hindsight.

but right-wing gun fellatin assholes here say TM deserved to be murdered.

Fabbs
09-27-2013, 08:31 AM
LAUER: I want to make sure I understand. So you now doubt his innocence, at least the fact that he was acting in self-defense on the night that Trayvon Martin was killed?

SHELLIE: I think anyone would doubt that innocence because I don’t know the person that I’ve been married to.

Passive aggressive evasive answer as she avoids saying what she thinks and shifts. Is she looking at a book or movie deal and needs to juice up the script? Entirely possible.

Fabbs
09-27-2013, 08:54 AM
Women lie like hell when divorce is coming too. Isn't she the one who perjured herself when it came to the money?
Yep. When you add in some major bank often times the divorce ugliness including big time lies on either side increases.
It appears Zimmerman is going to come into some large cash once the suit against NBC for defamation gets settled....