Who is going to beat Denver?

[Avante]

How about when they meet up with the Chiefs in KC after a road game in Foxboro (November) with the Chiefs at home...again?

[Holden_Caulfield]

jacksonville

[Avante]

Jacksonville in Denver in a back to back road scenario.....hmmm?

[spurraider21]

nobody. denver is going undefeated and will win the superbowl. you know, because of schedules

[HarlemHeat37]

The only people that can stop Denver in the playoffs are John Fox and the officials, tbh..

[spurraider21]

The only people that can stop Denver in the playoffs are John Fox and the officials, tbh..

:rolleyes your Heat-fan half is showing again

[Chief Brody]

The only people that can stop Denver in the playoffs are John Fox and the officials, tbh..
and Rahim Moore

[vander]

probably Eli Manning

[Clipper Nation]

The only people that can stop Denver in the playoffs are John Fox and the officials, tbh..
You forgot Peyton, tbh, he's done a great job stopping his teams from winning playoff games over the years....

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

Peyton Manning will beast in the regular season as always. But once the postseason begins, he will resort to his losing ways. Peyton is 9-11 in the playoffs. He has been one and done in the playoffs 8 times. And since Rex Grossman is no longer a starting QB, he will never win another Super Bowl. It's this reason that anyone who thinks that Peyton Manning is the GOAT is absolutely delusional.

[HarlemHeat37]

and Rahim Moore

Moore should be a backup, tbh, so it's Fox's decision to play him..

:lol Broncos fans still severrly overrate Moore and Slowshon, tbh..

[Avante]

nobody. denver is going undefeated and will win the superbowl. you know, because of schedules

Imagine this scenario...

X has a Thursday game at home. They also have another home again in 10 days. Z their next opponet will be on the road again when they face X. Does that seem fair to you?

[Holden_Caulfield]

i wonder if del rio gets a hc job again :lol

[Brunodf]

49ers tbh

[Avante]

49ers tbh

According to most those football mags that will be the Superbowl....Niners vs Broncos.

I can the see Niners winning the game they do have the better big guys. Gore the best back. Better D.

But the Broncos will lose before the Superbowl.

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol at the 49ers going back to the Super Bowl after losing in it the previous season. They had their chance and Kaepernick choked it all away.

[Avante]

:lol at the 49ers going back to the Super Bowl after losing in it the previous season. They had their chance and Kaepernick choked it all away.

How many games had Kaepernick played in prior to the SB?

[Bill_Brasky]

I see we still have plenty of tards in complete denial of how good the niners are.

[Avante]

I see we still have plenty of tards in complete denial of how good the niners are.

great coach
young dynamic QB
best combination 0/D lines in the league
best linebacker gang
good defensive backs
deep stable of backs
one of the best TE's the league
solid ST's
stud receiver

Only weakness is depth at wide receiver and that's only because of injury.

Without question one of the top 4 teams in the league.

[lefty]

A lot of teams

Except the Raiders

[Avante]

A lot of teams

Except the Raiders

So who beats them first?

[TIMMYtoZO]

I see we still have plenty of tards in complete denial of how good the niners are.

:lol They are very very good. They allowed themselves to get down 17 and 22 in 2 playoff games and their QB choked with 3 terrible passes with a Super Bowl on the line. Teams who also lose the SB get worse the next season.

:lol praising the 49ers
:lol ignoring Kaepernick's unclutch play with everything on the line
:lol ignoring the SB losers curse

[Bill_Brasky]

:lol They are very very good. They allowed themselves to get down 17 and 22 in 2 playoff games and their QB choked with 3 terrible passes with a Super Bowl on the line. Teams who also lose the SB get worse the next season.

:lol praising the 49ers
:lol ignoring Kaepernick's unclutch play with everything on the line
:lol ignoring the SB losers curse

that all sounds very skip baylessesque. your takes are usually a lot better and based on good observations/stats, not cliches like "so and so was unclutch, super bowl loser curse".

kaep is definitely good enough. the curse will be broken.

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

History clearly states that the 49ers will not be returning to the SB this season. People can try and convince themselves all that they want that the 49ers will get back to the Super Bowl because of their talent. But the numbers don't lie. A Super Bowl loser hasn't been back to the Super Bowl the next season in 20 years. All of those Super Bowl losers were talented the next season, but still couldn't get back there. The 49ers will not be returning to the Super Bowl this season. Evidence below.

……………………………………………………
** How the Super Bowl losers have fared the following season:
2012 49ers: 11-4-1; lost to Ravens, 34-31, in Super Bowl XLVII
2013 49ers: ????
……………………………………………………
2011 Patriots: 13-3; lost to Giants, 21-17, in Super Bowl XLVI
2012 Patriots: 12-4; lost to Ravens, 28-13, in AFC Championship Game
……………………………………………………
2010 Steelers: 12-4; lost to Packers, 31-25, in Super Bowl XLV
2011 Steelers: 12-4; lost to Broncos, 29-23, in AFC wild-card playoffs
……………………………………………………
2009 Colts: 14-2; lost to Saints, 31-17, in Super Bowl XLIV
2010 Colts: 10-6; lost to Jets, 17-16, in AFC wild-card playoffs
……………………………………………………
2008 Cardinals: 9-7; lost to Steelers, 27-23, in Super Bowl XLIII
2009 Cardinals: 10-6; lost to Saints, 45-14, in NFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
2007 Patriots: 16-0; lost to Giants, 17-14, in Super Bowl XLII
2008 Patriots: 11-5; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2006 Bears: 13-3; lost to Colts, 29-17, in Super Bowl XLI
2007 Bears: 7-9; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2005 Seahawks: 13-3; lost to Steelers, 21-10, in Super Bowl XL
2006 Seahawks: 9-7; lost to Bears, 27-24 in NFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
2004 Eagles: 13-3; lost to Patriots, 24-21, in Super Bowl XXXIX
2005 Eagles: 6-10; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2003 Panthers: 11-5; lost to Patriots, 32-29, in Super Bowl XXXVIII
2004 Panthers: 7-9; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2002 Raiders: 11-5; lost to Buccaneers, 48-21, in Super Bowl XXXVII
2003 Raiders: 4-12; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2001 Rams: 14-2; lost to Patriots, 20-17, in Super Bowl XXXVI
2002 Rams: 7-9; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2000 Giants: 12-4; lost to Ravens, 34-7, in Super Bowl XXXV
2001 Giants: 7-9; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
1999 Titans: 13-3; lost to Rams, 23-16, in Super Bowl XXXIV
2000 Titans: 13-3; lost to Ravens, 24-10, in AFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
1998 Falcons: 14-2; lost to Broncos, 34-19, in Super Bowl XXXIII
1999 Falcons: 5-11; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
1997 Packers: 13-3; lost to Broncos, 31-24, in Super Bowl XXXII
1998 Packers: 11-5; lost to 49ers, 30-27, in NFC wild-card playoffs
……………………………………………………
1996 Patriots: 11-5; lost to Packers, 35-21, in Super Bowl XXXI
1997 Patriots: 10-6; lost to Steelers, 7-6, in AFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
1995 Steelers: 11-5; lost to Cowboys, 27-17, in Super Bowl XXX
1996 Steelers: 10-6; lost to Patriots, 28-3, in AFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
1994 Chargers: 11-5; lost to 49ers, 49-26, in Super Bowl XXIX
1995 Chargers: 9-7; lost to Colts, 35-20, in AFC wild-card playoffs
……………………………………………………
1993 Bills: 12-4; lost to Cowboys, 30-13, in Super Bowl XXVIII
1994 Bills: 7-9; missed playoffs

[Avante]

History clearly states that the 49ers will not be returning to the SB this season. People can try and convince themselves all that they want that the 49ers will get back to the Super Bowl because of their talent. But the numbers don't lie. A Super Bowl loser hasn't been back to the Super Bowl the next season in 20 years. All of those Super Bowl losers were talented the next season, but still couldn't get back there. The 49ers will not be returning to the Super Bowl this season. Evidence below.

……………………………………………………
** How the Super Bowl losers have fared the following season:
2012 49ers: 11-4-1; lost to Ravens, 34-31, in Super Bowl XLVII
2013 49ers: ????
……………………………………………………
2011 Patriots: 13-3; lost to Giants, 21-17, in Super Bowl XLVI
2012 Patriots: 12-4; lost to Ravens, 28-13, in AFC Championship Game
……………………………………………………
2010 Steelers: 12-4; lost to Packers, 31-25, in Super Bowl XLV
2011 Steelers: 12-4; lost to Broncos, 29-23, in AFC wild-card playoffs
……………………………………………………
2009 Colts: 14-2; lost to Saints, 31-17, in Super Bowl XLIV
2010 Colts: 10-6; lost to Jets, 17-16, in AFC wild-card playoffs
……………………………………………………
2008 Cardinals: 9-7; lost to Steelers, 27-23, in Super Bowl XLIII
2009 Cardinals: 10-6; lost to Saints, 45-14, in NFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
2007 Patriots: 16-0; lost to Giants, 17-14, in Super Bowl XLII
2008 Patriots: 11-5; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2006 Bears: 13-3; lost to Colts, 29-17, in Super Bowl XLI
2007 Bears: 7-9; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2005 Seahawks: 13-3; lost to Steelers, 21-10, in Super Bowl XL
2006 Seahawks: 9-7; lost to Bears, 27-24 in NFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
2004 Eagles: 13-3; lost to Patriots, 24-21, in Super Bowl XXXIX
2005 Eagles: 6-10; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2003 Panthers: 11-5; lost to Patriots, 32-29, in Super Bowl XXXVIII
2004 Panthers: 7-9; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2002 Raiders: 11-5; lost to Buccaneers, 48-21, in Super Bowl XXXVII
2003 Raiders: 4-12; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2001 Rams: 14-2; lost to Patriots, 20-17, in Super Bowl XXXVI
2002 Rams: 7-9; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
2000 Giants: 12-4; lost to Ravens, 34-7, in Super Bowl XXXV
2001 Giants: 7-9; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
1999 Titans: 13-3; lost to Rams, 23-16, in Super Bowl XXXIV
2000 Titans: 13-3; lost to Ravens, 24-10, in AFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
1998 Falcons: 14-2; lost to Broncos, 34-19, in Super Bowl XXXIII
1999 Falcons: 5-11; missed playoffs
……………………………………………………
1997 Packers: 13-3; lost to Broncos, 31-24, in Super Bowl XXXII
1998 Packers: 11-5; lost to 49ers, 30-27, in NFC wild-card playoffs
……………………………………………………
1996 Patriots: 11-5; lost to Packers, 35-21, in Super Bowl XXXI
1997 Patriots: 10-6; lost to Steelers, 7-6, in AFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
1995 Steelers: 11-5; lost to Cowboys, 27-17, in Super Bowl XXX
1996 Steelers: 10-6; lost to Patriots, 28-3, in AFC divisional playoffs
……………………………………………………
1994 Chargers: 11-5; lost to 49ers, 49-26, in Super Bowl XXIX
1995 Chargers: 9-7; lost to Colts, 35-20, in AFC wild-card playoffs
……………………………………………………
1993 Bills: 12-4; lost to Cowboys, 30-13, in Super Bowl XXVIII
1994 Bills: 7-9; missed playoffs


I'm a stat/trend guy but know the difference between what's real and what isn't. Back to back on the road an historically bad spot. Double home stand....great! That above trend is stupid.

[Clipper Nation]

I see we still have plenty of tards in complete denial of how good the niners are.
Nobody's saying they're a bad team, but history and the fact that the NFC is stacked works against their chances of making it back to the Super Bowl, tbh....

[Clipper Nation]

I'm a stat/trend guy but know the difference between what's real and what isn't. Back to back on the road an historically bad spot. Double home stand....great! That above trend is stupid.
Translation:

:cry "That trend is stupid because it doesn't favor my Niners!" :cry

[Avante]

Translation:

:cry "That trend is stupid because it doesn't favor my Niners!" :cry

Why try and talk about things you know nothing about little fella? You wouldn't know a stat from a trend.

[LkrFan]

:lol They are very very good. They allowed themselves to get down 17 and 22 in 2 playoff games and their QB choked with 3 terrible passes with a Super Bowl on the line. Teams who also lose the SB get worse the next season.

:lol praising the 49ers
:lol ignoring Kaepernick's unclutch play with everything on the line
:lol ignoring the SB losers curse
:lol Gnats about to go 0-2
:lol Re-signing Brandon Jacobs' fatass corpse
:lol Tiki Barber 2.0 will lose more confidence
:lol No running game
:lol 450 yards passing = Loss

[J.T.]

I just hope Indy puts up a fight in Week 7. If Luck can hang with Manning for most of the game I'll be happy.

[Thebesteva]

Broncos better win this year

[td4mvp2k]

Broncos better win this yearu suk!

[Avante]

Broncos better win this year

The Pats are down, the Ravens are down and Houston plays like shit in big games. The Broncos stay healthy they own the AFC.

[spurraider21]

Houston gets torched by teams that can spread the field with 4-5 receiver looks. they got absolutely wrecked by the Packers last year, and Tom Brady made mince meat out of them in the playoffs. The Broncos with Thomas, Decker, Welker, Thomas should be able to score on them. I mean, whats the best team in the AFC after that? Baltimore? Cincinnati?

Maybe if the Pats somehow manage to get to full health with Gronk, Amendola, Vereen

[Avante]

Houston gets torched by teams that can spread the field with 4-5 receiver looks. they got absolutely wrecked by the Packers last year, and Tom Brady made mince meat out of them in the playoffs. The Broncos with Thomas, Decker, Welker, Thomas should be able to score on them. I mean, whats the best team in the AFC after that? Baltimore? Cincinnati?

Maybe if the Pats somehow manage to get to full health with Gronk, Amendola, Vereen

You nailed! With that Broncos receiving corp the Texans in deep shit.

There is no AFC team with the talent on both sides of the ball to compare with Denver. They have it all.

The Pats are the only AFC team capable of pulling the upset but it would have to be in Foxboro and the Broncos lose the turnover battle.

[Ghazi]

I just wanna say.

Last year it looked like the Broncos had a clear path to the Super Bowl too... and they didn't make it.

Let's not start sucking their dicks as if they are drastically better this year. They were an elite team on both sides of the ball last year and had no business losing in the AFC Playoffs.

[Avante]

You might suck dick, I don't....ok?

So the addition of Montee Ball and Wes Welker and the emergence of TE Julius Thomas makes no difference? They started off 2-3 last season.....remember?

If you had to bet right now on who wins the AFL what would you say?

[Michael Jordan.]

Houston gets torched by teams that can spread the field with 4-5 receiver looks. they got absolutely wrecked by the Packers last year, and Tom Brady made mince meat out of them in the playoffs. The Broncos with Thomas, Decker, Welker, Thomas should be able to score on them. I mean, whats the best team in the AFC after that? Baltimore? Cincinnati?

Maybe if the Pats somehow manage to get to full health with Gronk, Amendola, Vereen


You nailed! With that Broncos receiving corp the Texans in deep shit.

There is no AFC team with the talent on both sides of the ball to compare with Denver. They have it all.

The Pats are the only AFC team capable of pulling the upset but it would have to be in Foxboro and the Broncos lose the turnover battle.
Remember, Cushing was lost for the season by the time they got torched. His presence makes a huge difference in covering tight ends and getting to the QB. Swearinger looks to be pretty good so far. We'll see.

[spurraider21]

Remember, Cushing was lost for the season by the time they got torched. His presence makes a huge difference in covering tight ends and getting to the QB. Swearinger looks to be pretty good so far. We'll see.

i'm a big fan of cushing (i've referenced his impact on the Texans D in a few different threads), but there is no doubt the Texans prefer to play their physical brand of football. They would rather play a team like Baltimore/Pittsburgh where they can just out-physical the opponent. I actually think the Texans could fare decently well against the Seahawks/Niners. But against teams that really spread the field, they've seen their struggles. Plus, there is still the Schaub factor

[Michael Jordan.]

i'm a big fan of cushing (i've referenced his impact on the Texans D in a few different threads), but there is no doubt the Texans prefer to play their physical brand of football. They would rather play a team like Baltimore/Pittsburgh where they can just out-physical the opponent. I actually think the Texans could fare decently well against the Seahawks/Niners. But against teams that really spread the field, they've seen their struggles. Plus, there is still the Schaub factor
Yeah I agree. The problem is when they face QBs, like Brady or Rodgers, the offense is so inconsistent that it forces the D to stay on the field longer. Against those teams, Kubiak has to call plays that result in TDs, not field goals. Tbh, I'm more concerned about the offense at this point.

[spurraider21]

Yeah I agree. The problem is when they face QBs, like Brady or Rodgers, the offense is so inconsistent that it forces the D to stay on the field longer. Against those teams, Kubiak has to call plays that result in TDs, not field goals. Tbh, I'm more concerned about the offense at this point.
Shane Lechler was our best offensive weapon for years. Use him to your advantage :lol. But in all seriousness, for a run-heavy, defense oriented team like the Texans, winning the field position battle is huge, and Lechler is like a field position cheat code. 8 of his 10 punts this year have been inside the 20, and he can still boom it if you're backed up

[Michael Jordan.]

Shane Lechler was our best offensive weapon for years. Use him to your advantage :lol. But in all seriousness, for a run-heavy, defense oriented team like the Texans, winning the field position battle is huge, and Lechler is like a field position cheat code. 8 of his 10 punts this year have been inside the 20, and he can still boom it if you're backed up
:lol Yeah, Lechler definitely saved our asses yesterday. Bullock's value is on kickoffs, kicking it out of the end zone everytime, but that isn't going to matter much if he keeps shanking 50 yarders. Best FA signing in a whille (Lechler)

[Raven]

it's pretty stupid to talk about that right now, the injury bug has yet to strike.

[spurraider21]

The Raiders will obviously beat Denver on Monday Night Football :hat