Reports: Several Killed In Shooting At Navy Yard In Washington

[scott]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/samir/an-active-shooter-has-shot-multiple-people-at-navy-yard-in-w?bffb

[boutons_deux]

yeah, it's been too quiet recently. Very unAmerican to go so long without an All-American mass murder.

What great about this one is that there's up to 3 "active shooters".

WTF is an inactive shooter?

[whitemamba]

possible cover up for syrian U.N. report release??

[ChumpDumper]

Obvious false flag.

[EDIT]lol too late. Someone said it seriously.

[scott]

WTF is an inactive shooter?

A dead one?

[whitemamba]

Obvious false flag.

[EDIT]lol too late. Someone said it seriously.

blatant if you ask me.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Can I just place the blame on barry for this now? Save WC , Darrins/Antichrist the post?

[boutons_deux]

I blame the mushroom-infected cantaloupes

[m>s]

You're not getting the guns none of you.

[CosmicCowboy]

I blame it on eating chickens. Was just talking to one of my customers that works for one of the big chicken chains. Holy shit! They take it from an egg cracked chick to a 4 1/2# slaughtered chicken in 32 days. Takes some serious growth hormones to do that!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There were apparently 3 shooters and only one of them has been dealt with so far.

[ElNono]

Condolences to the victims' families.

[ChumpDumper]

blatant if you ask me.I'm asking you.

Why do you say this?

[CosmicCowboy]

shooter from Fort Worth?

[ChumpDumper]

Yep, 34 year-old civilian contractor.

[CosmicCowboy]

Trill is gonna scream bloody murder...they "cleared" the white suspect.

[boutons_deux]

They take it from an egg cracked chick to a 4 1/2# slaughtered chicken in 32 days. Takes some serious growth hormones to do that!

aka, farm animal porn (not the usual kind of animal porn you rural bubbas prefer)

[mrsmaalox]

Trill is gonna scream bloody murder...they "cleared" the white suspect.

:lol

[Trill Clinton]

prayers up to the victims and their families. i'm just now hearing about this.

[PlayNando]

reap wut they sew

[CosmicCowboy]

reap wut they sew

WTF?

[Wild Cobra]

I blame it on eating chickens. Was just talking to one of my customers that works for one of the big chicken chains. Holy shit! They take it from an egg cracked chick to a 4 1/2# slaughtered chicken in 32 days. Takes some serious growth hormones to do that!

Well, he can't blame this discharged slippery hands from cooking.

[Wild Cobra]

Trill is gonna scream bloody murder...they "cleared" the white suspect.
Yep.

Black guy steals white guys access card...

[TeyshaBlue]

Yep.

Black guy steals white guys access card...


I defend the truth, and presenting allegations and innuendo as fact is very appalling to me.


I just overdosed on irony. Thanks Obama!

[Wild Cobra]

I just overdosed on irony. Thanks Obama!

I read various articles. I guess you didn't. He was arrested before, for discharging his weapion into a neighbors apartment. He claimed he was cleaning his weapon and it accidentally discharged. There was a history between these two. He claimed the accident was because he was cooking and his hands were still slippery.

Security records had another workers access card being used. That's why another suspect was thought to be at large. He had this card on him.

[TeyshaBlue]

I have yet to read a single article that claims he had another worker's access card in his possession.

I do see mention of a card being found near the shootings. But nothing connecting the two yet.

"A federal law enforcement supervisor briefed on the Navy Yard investigation said an official Navy employee ID card was found near the scene of the shootings but that it apparently does not match the identity of the person they believe was the shooter. Rather, he said, the card belonged to a different individual who was “let go or transferred” from his job recently."
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-gunman-washington-navy-yard-access-20130916,0,790805.story

[TeyshaBlue]

But go ahead and double down. It makes me giggle.

[CosmicCowboy]

Sad thing is, the price had finally just come back down on P-Mags. *heading to Academy after work*

[Trill Clinton]

Sad thing is, the price had finally just come back down on P-Mags. *heading to Academy after work*

sad thing is at least 12 people lost their lives to a coward.

[ChumpDumper]

Sad thing is, the price had finally just come back down on P-Mags. *heading to Academy after work*Yes, that's the sad thing.

[CosmicCowboy]

Your crocodile tears won't change a fucking thing.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sad thing is, the price had finally just come back down on P-Mags. *heading to Academy after work*

CC, I have to say that you are one of the most self centered and materialistic people that I have ever encountered. Tragedy occurs and your primary concern is how much more a gun accessory is going to cost you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your crocodile tears won't change a fucking thing.

And you attitude is a detriment to society. That does change a thing and in a bad way. Congratulations.

[CosmicCowboy]

GFY

more crocodile tears.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

GFY

more crocodile tears.

So how does it feel to emulate boutons? You're so cool!

[ChumpDumper]

Your crocodile tears won't change a fucking thing.


GFY

more crocodile tears.Why so salty?

Did the price go up that much?

[CosmicCowboy]

So how does it feel to emulate boutons? You're so cool!

You're such a pissy little faggot.

[m>s]

Gun obsessed can suck my cock, it's long and resembles the barrel of a rifle

[PlayNando]

WTF?
the turth hurts

[Chief Brody]

And you attitude is a detriment to society. That does change a thing and in a bad way.
How so?

[whitemamba]

blatant if you ask me.

something always happens coincidentally with major news... take the mind of the fact that obama is full of shit about syria.. who knows, again its a theory.

[Th'Pusher]

something always happens coincidentally with major news... take the mind of the fact that obama is full of shit about syria.. who knows, again its a theory.
How does the UN report subject Obama as being full of shit about Syria? Everything that came out of it confirms the use of sarin gas and while the report does not point fingers at the Assad regime directly, the findings are consistent with what the Obama administration reported.

[spursncowboys]

They need to allow open carry on military bases.

[LnGrrrR]

They need to allow open carry on military bases.

You know this will never happen.

I think I would prefer x-raying cars entering the base myself. Open carry might have prevented the last four deaths or so, but not the first half dozen.

how much of a time difference do you think it really was from bases security getting there as opposed to a hypothetical open carrier? 3 minutes? 5?

[ChumpDumper]

More guns!

[m>s]

More dick in my ass!

Cum dumpster with the ultra generic liberal cookie cutter terminology beta cuck post per par

[spursncowboys]

You know this will never happen.

I think I would prefer x-raying cars entering the base myself. Open carry might have prevented the last four deaths or so, but not the first half dozen.

how much of a time difference do you think it really was from bases security getting there as opposed to a hypothetical open carrier? 3 minutes? 5?

Well I don't know exactly with this situation. That post was reactionary. As if units patrol with it. That's stupid as if I was an officer coming up with a bone head idea. But only because banning guns was that same kind of reaction by the dark side. But I think concealed/ open or in your trunks should be acceptable. X-ray cars too but theres no way the army would do that. If they got extra money for that, what would happen in the army is every CO would have a new door plaque.

With opportunity and desire being the basic elements of a crime. I think it would definitely make people rethink their strategy for doing this kind of thing. So it would take some of their desire and shorten their length of opportunity. Trying to tighten security would try to catch their opportunity while doing nothing to their desire. Sure if one got caught trying, it might take the next person's desire away. But these are so few and far in between.

[ChumpDumper]

Cum dumpster with the ultra generic liberal cookie cutter terminology beta cuck post per parActually you were first with the internets fake tough guys loser post.

[TSA]

So this is a "mass shooting" yet Ft. Hood was "workplace violence"?

[ChumpDumper]

So this is a "mass shooting" yet Ft. Hood was "workplace violence"?Both are both.

[m>s]

Actually you were first with the internets fake tough guys loser post.

let's not kid ourselves tbh it's not just guns but all phallic symbols and symbols of power which intimidate your dickless effeminate ass imho

[ChumpDumper]

let's not kid ourselves tbh it's not just guns but all phallic symbols and symbols of power which intimidate your dickless effeminate ass imhoLet's not kid ourselves: You have no power at all.

[TSA]

Both are both.

One was a mass shooting/workplace violence, the other a terrorist attack.

[ChumpDumper]

One was a mass shooting/workplace violence, the other a terrorist attack.Both were mass shooting/workplace violence. The terra thing depends on your definition; some fit, some don't. Why are your panties in a wad about it?

[TSA]

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/16/feinstein-calls-for-new-gun-control-laws-again-after-navy-yard-shooting/

Didn't take the bitch long to exploit the dead. Fucking Swine.


If reports are accurate, Alexis came in with a shotgun and killed along the way collecting the other two guns, yet this will be another ban the AR-15 story we've seen before.

[TSA]

Both were mass shooting/workplace violence. The terra thing depends on your definition; some fit, some don't. Why are your panties in a wad about it?

Do you think Ft. Hood was a terrorist attack? Yes or no?

[m>s]

Let's not kid ourselves: You have no power at all.

i'm a high ranking national socialist leader and you'll shine my boots in due time, comrade.

will you be attending any gun control rallies in the wake of this terrible tragedy since you feel powerful through the collective?

[ChumpDumper]

Do you think Ft. Hood was a terrorist attack? Yes or no?By my definition, yes. Other definitions are just as valid, though.


i'm a high ranking national socialist leader and you'll shine my boots in due time, comrade.

will you be attending any gun control rallies in the wake of this terrible tragedy since you feel powerful through the collective?You have no power. You will have no power.

[m>s]

just wait for the coup

[ChumpDumper]

There will be no coup. Just you being angry.

[spursncowboys]

Is this one guy with multiple troll acct's with the nazi crap?

[ChumpDumper]

Is this one guy with multiple troll acct's with the nazi crap?Yes.

He's got problems.

[m>s]

Is this one guy with multiple troll acct's with the nazi crap?

it's not multiple accounts, cumguzzler abused his jr mod powers to ban my other account even though i checked with kori and there was no violation

real problem begin when you'd rather watch another man have sex with your wife than actually having sex with your wife, cuck. get back to butchering the socratic method before i expose you for what you really are, a zionist shill.

[ChumpDumper]

Were I a mod I would ban all your accounts. You're just a terrible person.

[Ignignokt]

Were I a mod I would ban all your accounts. You're just a terrible person.

You forgot a question mark at the end of those two sentences.

[ChumpDumper]

You forgot a question mark at the end of those two sentences.No, the punctuation is just fine.

[m>s]

and you're even more terrible of a political poster. all you do is ask people questions to try to trip them up in their own opinions without ever having an opinion of your own to have to defend, it's the cheapest most bush league tactic in the book. that and your zionist cocksucking make all 80,000 of your posts fucking unbearable..i think i'd rather punch myself in the face 77,679 times than read that shit.

[m>s]

No, the punctuation is just fine.

all matter of factly and shit, what a little bitch

chump style: did you say that with a lisp?

[ChumpDumper]

and you're even more terrible of a political poster. all you do is ask people questions to try to trip them up in their own opinions without ever having an opinion of your own to have to defend, it's the cheapest most bush league tactic in the book. that and your zionist cocksucking make all 80,000 of your posts fucking unbearable..i think i'd rather punch myself in the face 77,679 times than read that shit.But you keep reading them.

[spursncowboys]

You forgot a question mark at the end of those two sentences.

http://bluraymedia.ign.com/bluray/image/article/111/1116211/ron-burgundy-20100901113857334.jpg
I'm Ron Burgundy?

[ChumpDumper]

all matter of factly and shit, what a little bitch

chump style: did you say that with a lisp?I posted it. I don't have to say it out loud. That would be silly.

[m>s]

no there is a difference, i skim them to pick out the shittiest parts and take a big fat doo doo on your little white face, givin' you a lil chocolate swirl

jamalonchump'swife.gif

[ChumpDumper]

no there is a difference, i skim them to pick out the shittiest parts and take a big fat doo doo on your little white face, givin' you a lil chocolate swirl

jamalonchump'swife.gifYou need to decide which shtick you are going to go with. You're coming across as a little unhinged at this point.

[Ignignokt]

But you keep reading them.
correction, we keep applying the proper hermeneutic principles to ascertain the implied meaning or unimplied meaning of your proposition, that's ofcourse if you have such a propostion.

[Ignignokt]

You need to decide which shtick you are going to go with. You're coming across as a little unhinged at this point.

what dialectical hermeneutic UTSA method did you apply in recieving such an interpretation?

[spursncowboys]

correction, we keep applying the proper hermeneutic principles to ascertain the implied meaning or unimplied meaning of your proposition, that's ofcourse if you have such a propostion.
I thought there was an op about you killing yourself. Serious post btw

[m>s]

You need to decide which shtick you are going to go with. You're coming across as a little unhinged at this point.

speaking of unhinged, you might as well take your front door off the hinges and invite in any stray n!ggar off the streets to come right in and plow your wife. you liberals are a disgrace to my race that's the point that utsa grads apparently don't understand.

[Ignignokt]

I thought there was an op about you killing yourself. Serious post btw

I need a proper link. Then we could establish some proper conceptual definitions of what "killing oneself" would mean, if it were the case that I actually posted such things.

[ChumpDumper]

speaking of unhinged, you might as well take your front door off the hinges and invite in any stray n!ggar off the streets to come right in and plow your wife. you liberals are a disgrace to my race that's the point that utsa grads apparently don't understand.I don't think there is anything specific in my posting history that would indicate that.

[m>s]

I don't think there is anything specific in my posting history that would indicate that.

you're right, a post such as "i think it's hot when large black men plow my wife" would be posting an opinion which we all know is against the chump crew code of conduct. don't worry we can all read between the lines though.

[ChumpDumper]

you're right, a post such as "i think it's hot when large black men plow my wife" would be posting an opinion which we all know is against the chump crew code of conduct. don't worry we can all read between the lines though.You're getting really worked up now.

[Ignignokt]

You're getting really worked up now.

unqualified psychoanalysis with lack of an argument.

[spursncowboys]

I thought CD is a girl? Or is it clambake?

[m>s]

I thought CD is a girl? Or is it clambake?

i could see him being a fat dyke but not a feminine girl. he's another one of those CF types who give off the vibe online of being a transgender. nobody can say for sure and i don't really want to find out. my guess is a girly man who dresses up in women's panties and lingerie. he's probably fucking typing up a response with a pair of his wife's panties on his head that jamal just took off 30 minutes ago.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do people like m<s fantasize so hard about me and think that posting those sexual fantasies insults me?

[phxspurfan]

WTF is an inactive shooter?

Milwaukee Bucks' Gary Neal

[m>s]

fantasize so hard about me, sexual fantasies

lol somebody's turned on

[ChumpDumper]

lol somebody's turned onIt's safe to conclude it's the one posting his sexual fantasies.

[Ignignokt]

It's safe to conclude it's the one posting his sexual fantasies.

You're really hung up on convincing you're wanted.

[ChumpDumper]

You're really hung up on convincing you're wanted.You're the ones posting your sexual fantasies about me.

[TSA]

Another mass murder, in a gun-free building, on a gun-free military base, in the middle of a city with the tightest gun controls in the US.

[TSA]

What is an AR-15 shotgun and where do I get one?

[LnGrrrR]

Well I don't know exactly with this situation. That post was reactionary. As if units patrol with it. That's stupid as if I was an officer coming up with a bone head idea. But only because banning guns was that same kind of reaction by the dark side. But I think concealed/ open or in your trunks should be acceptable. X-ray cars too but theres no way the army would do that. If they got extra money for that, what would happen in the army is every CO would have a new door plaque.

With opportunity and desire being the basic elements of a crime. I think it would definitely make people rethink their strategy for doing this kind of thing. So it would take some of their desire and shorten their length of opportunity. Trying to tighten security would try to catch their opportunity while doing nothing to their desire. Sure if one got caught trying, it might take the next person's desire away. But these are so few and far in between.

You aren't dealing with rational actors here. Many gunmen commit suicide after their spree is over, so I don't think jail is much of a deterrent. And allowing open carry would certainly INCREASE the opportunity for a would-be gunman.

[LnGrrrR]

I like when Ignignokt tries to show off how smart he is by using big words.

[LnGrrrR]

Another mass murder, in a gun-free building, on a gun-free military base, in the middle of a city with the tightest gun controls in the US.

How tough are the Colorado gun laws? Just asking. I seem to remember a mass shooting there recently as well.

[TSA]

How tough are the Colorado gun laws? Just asking. I seem to remember a mass shooting there recently as well.

Laws will not prevent this from happening.

[symple19]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Which tin hatter from around here does this sound like?


"I wouldn't call him nice, but he seemed harmless, if really awkward," said Demby, the lead writer for NPR's Code Switch blog about race and culture. "He was insecure. He was like a barbershop conspiracy theorist, the kind of guy who believes he's smarter than everyone else. He also was kind of like perpetually aggrieved, but not megalomaniacal or delusional."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NAVY_YARD_SHOOTING_SUSPECT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-09-16-23-11-11

[PlayNando]

does america get what it deserves?

this shat doesnt happen in france.

[PlayNando]

muricans are crazy with their guns. too many murcans are too stoopid to be able to use them. murca is a dumb country and cant be trusted with firearms. the 2nd amendment nee dst oto be repealed before moire people die cuz murcans are dumb,

[m>s]

muricans are crazy with their guns. too many murcans are too stoopid to be able to use them. murca is a dumb country and cant be trusted with firearms. the 2nd amendment nee dst oto be repealed before moire people die cuz murcans are dumb,

repeal your life first

[PlayNando]

repeal your life first
u first racist

[m>s]

i know you think you're real cute with your little be@ner troll whoever the fuck you are but it's lame and obnoxious

[PlayNando]

i know you think you're real cute with your little be@ner troll whoever the fuck you are but it's lame and obnoxious
i am cute

ur just a bich

[Axegrinder]

i am cute

ur just a bich Faggotspeak

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How so?

Specificly, he consistently denounces programs as wasteful and against the public good and then uses them. He thinks it's funny that his generation has left a big shit burger for the rest of us because he is going to be dead by the time it really starts going to go to to shit. As long as he gets his he doesn't care about how it will effect the whole. He has made that clear and seems to take pride in it. At least he fronts as if he does.

If you want to argue on behalf of objectivism then go right ahead.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You aren't dealing with rational actors here. Many gunmen commit suicide after their spree is over, so I don't think jail is much of a deterrent. And allowing open carry would certainly INCREASE the opportunity for a would-be gunman.

Fuck it. Why not just repeal vigilante laws too. It will be great!

[CosmicCowboy]

Specificly, he consistently denounces programs as wasteful and against the public good and then uses them. He thinks it's funny that his generation has left a big shit burger for the rest of us because he is going to be dead by the time it really starts going to go to to shit. As long as he gets his he doesn't care about how it will effect the whole. He has made that clear and seems to take pride in it. At least he fronts as if he does.

If you want to argue on behalf of objectivism then go right ahead.

:lmao

hypersensitive little faggot...:lol

Quit voting for that shit and I'll quit taking advantage of it. You want to promote the use of electric vehicles by giving tax credits? Fine. You modified my behavior. I took advantage of them and got free electric vehicles. You want to promote the use of solar energy by giving tax credits? Fine. You modified my behavior and I took advantage of them and am saving $100+ a month that I can spend on cigars and booze. You want the Federal government to subsidize health care? Fine. You modified my behavior. I'll quit providing health care for my employees and you can have what you want and I can save a shitload of money...I'm tentatively thinking about 50K a year. Thats a lot of hookers and blow. Thanks, BITCH!

I just point out that these liberal programs you support aren't necessarily in your best interest.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao

hypersensitive little faggot...:lol

Quit voting for that shit and I'll quit taking advantage of it. You want to promote the use of electric vehicles by giving tax credits? Fine. You modified my behavior. I took advantage of them. You want to promote the use of solar energy by giving tax credits? Fine. You modified my behavior and I took advantage of them. You want the Federal government to subsidize health care? Fine. You modified my behavior. I'll quit providing health care for my employees and you can have what you want and I can save a shitload of money.

I just point out that these liberal programs you support aren't necessarily in your best interest.

If giving a shit about the future of society makes me hypersensitive then I can live with that.

I don't 'vote for that shit.' Try again.

Way to not take personal responsibility though. Modified your behavior? What a fucking cop out. You will take whatever as long it doesn't cost you and you don't give a damn what it costs anyone else.

I just want it pointed out that people that despise freeloaders can look to you for their vitriol.

[CosmicCowboy]

If giving a shit about the future of society makes me hypersensitive then I can live with that.

I don't 'vote for that shit.' Try again.

Way to not take personal responsibility though. Modified your behavior? What a fucking cop out. You will take whatever as long it doesn't cost you and you don't give a damn what it costs anyone else.

I just want it pointed out that people that despise freeloaders can look to you for their vitriol.

:lmao

I work 60+ hour weeks. I'm not freeloading off anyone.

Do you intentionally pay more taxes that you are legally obligated to pay?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao

I work 60+ hour weeks. I'm not freeloading off anyone.

Do you intentionally pay more taxes that you are legally obligated to pay?

I don't vote a tax reduction for myself as a matter of course. I am going to go out on a limb and say that you do.

And for someone who works 60 hours a week you seem to have plenty of time to fuck off on this forum most of every day. Fucking off on the internet while you have work crews out doing shit is hardly compelling. Taking handouts is taking handouts and it's obvious you will take any that you can. You call it having your behavior modified rather than taking responsibility for it. It's typical cognitive dissonance. Cliche really.

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't vote a tax reduction for myself as a matter of course. I am going to go out on a limb and say that you do.

And for someone who works 60 hours a week you seem to have plenty of time to fuck off on this forum most of every day. Fucking off on the internet while you have work crews out doing shit is hardly compelling. Taking handouts is taking handouts and it's obvious you will take any that you can. You call it having your behavior modified rather than taking responsibility for it. It's typical cognitive dissonance. Cliche really.

:lmao @ mr. righteous and high and mighty fucking off on the internet all day.

McCain :lol

You and he are equally irrelevant attention whores.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao @ mr. righteous and high and mighty fucking off on the internet all day.

McCain :lol

You and he are equally irrelevant attention whores.

What are you talking about. I have time while stuff assembles to browse from time to time but I am not even at work right now. I am guessing you on the other hand are at 'work.'

At least you are not trying to deny what you are anymore. Instead you are trying to paint me as just like you. That also is very telling.

And you would think that McCain is irrelevant. Shows how much acumen you have ie none. Do you do anything but bluster? Makes me wonder really.

[TSA]

I heard some people were shot yesterday.

[TeyshaBlue]

Yep.

Black guy steals white guys access card...


I defend the truth, and presenting allegations and innuendo as fact is very appalling to me.

Yeah. http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

"He was an IT contractor. He had medium security clearance, high enough to work at multiple Navy offices over the summer. He had an ID badge to enter the Navy Yard. His employer says the shooter jumped through all the right hoops. "
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/us/navy-yard-shooting-knowns-unknowns/

[whitemamba]

How does the UN report subject Obama as being full of shit about Syria? Everything that came out of it confirms the use of sarin gas and while the report does not point fingers at the Assad regime directly, the findings are consistent with what the Obama administration reported.

show me obamas proof.

[ChumpDumper]

show me obamas proof.Show me your proof that the UN report says Obama is full of shit.

[whitemamba]

Show me your proof that the UN report says Obama is full of shit.

obama made the accusation. he needs to provide the evidence chump

[Th'Pusher]

obama made the accusation. he needs to provide the evidence chump
There is nothing in the UN report that contradicts Obama's information on what occurred. You act as if this report totally contradicted Obama's account of what happened, so he went ahead and had 12 Americans killed to distract the public. You're ridiculous.

[ChumpDumper]

obama made the accusation. he needs to provide the evidence chumpYou just made an accusation. You need to provide the evidence.

[CosmicCowboy]

As I understand it the UN report just verified Sarin was used, and didn't have an opinion on who used it.

If we are going to claim Assad used it a little real proof isn't out of the question.

Saying "Trust me, I've read the classified reports and he did it" doesn't really fly anymore.

Iraq and WMD's pretty well poisoned the "trust me" well.

[ChumpDumper]

As I understand it the UN report just verified Sarin was used, and didn't have an opinion on who used it.

If we are going to claim Assad used it a little real proof isn't out of the question.

Saying "Trust me, I've read the classified reports and he did it" doesn't really fly anymore.

Iraq and WMD's pretty well poisoned the "trust me" well.While the report’s authors did not assign blame for the attack on the outskirts of Damascus, the details it documented included the large size and particular shape of the munitions and the precise direction from which two of them had been fired. Taken together, that information appeared to undercut arguments by President Bashar al-Assad of Syria that rebel forces, who are not known to possess such weapons or the training or ability to use them, had been responsible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/world/europe/syria-united-nations.html

What other possible conclusion could you come to?

[m>s]

Lol believing what you hear from the Zionist puppet committee..dude you're something else

[ChumpDumper]

OK, what do you say happened and what is your source?

[clambake]

Yep.

Black guy steals white guys access card...

lol

[whitemamba]

There is nothing in the UN report that contradicts Obama's information on what occurred. You act as if this report totally contradicted Obama's account of what happened, so he went ahead and had 12 Americans killed to distract the public. You're ridiculous.


You just made an accusation. You need to provide the evidence.

The U.N. didnt say it was the Syrian Govt... what evidence is the US using, they havent even been in Syria, they are watching from a distance, and making these accusations.. Tell me Chump, did they find the "WMD's" in Iraq yet?

[whitemamba]

There is nothing in the UN report that contradicts Obama's information on what occurred. You act as if this report totally contradicted Obama's account of what happened, so he went ahead and had 12 Americans killed to distract the public. You're ridiculous.

Obama kills innocent children on the daily... what makes you think he wont do something like this? Anyone who kills kids is a possible suspect for any bad thing imho.

[m>s]

OK, what do you say happened and what is your source?

I believe that those al Qaeda swine used chemical weapons again as they have been caught doing in order to draw the US into the war.

my source: fighting on the ground in Syria with my men in support of al Assad in order to gain valuable experience for the militia movement

[Th'Pusher]

I believe that those al Qaeda swine used chemical weapons again as they have been caught doing in order to draw the US into the war.

my source: fighting on the ground in Syria with my men in support of al Assad in order to gain valuable experience for the militia movement
Do they have credit unions on the ground in Syria? And if they do, what does one have to do to join one?

[whitemamba]

There is nothing in the UN report that contradicts Obama's information on what occurred. You act as if this report totally contradicted Obama's account of what happened, so he went ahead and had 12 Americans killed to distract the public. You're ridiculous.


I believe that those al Qaeda swine used chemical weapons again as they have been caught doing in order to draw the US into the war.

my source: fighting on the ground in Syria with my men in support of al Assad in order to gain valuable experience for the militia movement

Everyone forgets the U.N. said the rebels or Al Qaida used chemical weapons in Khan Al Assal in the northern city of Aleppo... lol @ MSM

[ChumpDumper]

The U.N. didnt say it was the Syrian Govt... what evidence is the US using, they havent even been in Syria, they are watching from a distance, and making these accusations.Who else could have possibly done it?
Tell me Chump, did they find the "WMD's" in Iraq yet?Sorry, Assad just admitted it has WMD.


I believe that those al Qaeda swine used chemical weapons again as they have been caught doing in order to draw the US into the war.

my source: fighting on the ground in Syria with my men in support of al Assad in order to gain valuable experience for the militia movementHoly shit.

You just claimed to be fighting in Syria?

You're sitting in a cubicle in Arlington.

[ChumpDumper]

Everyone forgets the U.N. said the rebels or Al Qaida used chemical weapons in Khan Al Assal in the northern city of Aleppo... lol @ MSMLink?

[Chief Brody]

Specificly, he consistently denounces programs as wasteful and against the public good and then uses them.

Well yeah, if you have certain policies forced on you that you didn't want or vote for then of course you're going to make the best of the situation. What a terrible human being he is.

[whitemamba]

Who else could have possibly done it?Sorry, Assad just admitted it has WMD.

Holy shit.

You just claimed to be fighting in Syria?

You're sitting in a cubicle in Arlington.

the rebels maybe...

[whitemamba]

Link?

http://shoebat.com/2013/08/27/evidence-syrian-rebels-used-chemical-weapons-not-assad/

[ChumpDumper]

the rebels maybe...The investigators were unable to examine all of the munitions used, but they were able to find and measure several rockets or their components. Using standard field techniques for ordnance identification and crater analysis, they established that at least two types of rockets had been used, including an M14 artillery rocket bearing Cyrillic markings and a 330-millimeter rocket of unidentified provenance.

These findings, though not presented as evidence of responsibility, were likely to strengthen the argument of those who claim that the Syrian government bears the blame, because the weapons in question had not been previously documented or reported to be in possession of the insurgency.

Moreover, those weapons are fired by large, conspicuous launchers. For rebels to have carried out the attack, they would have had to organize an operation with weapons they are not known to have and of considerable scale, sophistication and secrecy — moving the launchers undetected into position in areas under strong government influence or control, keeping them in place unmolested for a sustained attack that would have generated extensive light and noise, and then successfully withdrawing them — all without being detected in any way.

One annex to the report also identified azimuths, or angular measurements, from where rockets had struck, back to their points of origin. When plotted and marked independently on maps by analysts from Human Rights Watch and by The New York Times, the United Nations data from two widely scattered impact sites pointed directly to a Syrian military complex.

Other nonproliferation experts said the United Nations report was damning in its implicit incrimination of Mr. Assad’s side in the conflict, not only in the weaponry fragments but also in the azimuth data that indicated the attack’s origins. An analysis of the report posted online by the Arms Control Association, a Washington-based advocacy group, said “the additional details and the perceived objectivity of the inspectors buttress the assignment of blame to Bashar al-Assad’s Syrian government.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/world/europe/syria-united-nations.html

What information leads you to the conclusion it was the rebels?

[m>s]

Who else could have possibly done it?Sorry, Assad just admitted it has WMD.

Holy shit.

You just claimed to be fighting in Syria?

You're sitting in a cubicle in Arlington.
Not in the summer of 2012

[whitemamba]

The investigators were unable to examine all of the munitions used, but they were able to find and measure several rockets or their components. Using standard field techniques for ordnance identification and crater analysis, they established that at least two types of rockets had been used, including an M14 artillery rocket bearing Cyrillic markings and a 330-millimeter rocket of unidentified provenance.

These findings, though not presented as evidence of responsibility, were likely to strengthen the argument of those who claim that the Syrian government bears the blame, because the weapons in question had not been previously documented or reported to be in possession of the insurgency.

Moreover, those weapons are fired by large, conspicuous launchers. For rebels to have carried out the attack, they would have had to organize an operation with weapons they are not known to have and of considerable scale, sophistication and secrecy — moving the launchers undetected into position in areas under strong government influence or control, keeping them in place unmolested for a sustained attack that would have generated extensive light and noise, and then successfully withdrawing them — all without being detected in any way.

One annex to the report also identified azimuths, or angular measurements, from where rockets had struck, back to their points of origin. When plotted and marked independently on maps by analysts from Human Rights Watch and by The New York Times, the United Nations data from two widely scattered impact sites pointed directly to a Syrian military complex.

Other nonproliferation experts said the United Nations report was damning in its implicit incrimination of Mr. Assad’s side in the conflict, not only in the weaponry fragments but also in the azimuth data that indicated the attack’s origins. An analysis of the report posted online by the Arms Control Association, a Washington-based advocacy group, said “the additional details and the perceived objectivity of the inspectors buttress the assignment of blame to Bashar al-Assad’s Syrian government.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/world/europe/syria-united-nations.html

What information leads you to the conclusion it was the rebels?

Dont the rebels always attack military bases in syria, and raid them and take all the weapons available? its all over youtube isnt it?

[ChumpDumper]

http://shoebat.com/2013/08/27/evidence-syrian-rebels-used-chemical-weapons-not-assad/That was one woman, not the UN -- and she never said a word about it after that.

In fact, the Syrian government lobbied to make the UN report not assign responsibility for the Khan Al Assal attack.

Why? What do they have to hide?

[ChumpDumper]

Not in the summer of 2012You're lying.


Dont the rebels always attack military bases in syria, and raid them and take all the weapons available? its all over youtube isnt it?You didn't answer the question.

What information leads you to the conclusion it was the rebels?

[whitemamba]

You're lying.

You didn't answer the question.

What information leads you to the conclusion it was the rebels?

Military Intervention because they are losing the war. The Syrian military stayed surprisingly quite disciplined, what I mean by that is, they Army is still loyal to the government. Why would Assad use chemical weapons if Obama drew a red line, and knew that was the ticket for intervention?

[PlayNando]

Faggotspeak
u wuld no wouldnt u?

[Wild Cobra]

I read the UN report, and the US report.

"High Confidence?"

What percentage is assigned? They even say it isn't a "certainty."

[ChumpDumper]

Military Intervention because they are losing the war. The Syrian military stayed surprisingly quite disciplined, what I mean by that is, they Army is still loyal to the government. Why would Assad use chemical weapons if Obama drew a red line, and knew that was the ticket for intervention?So no real information like I listed above just guesses. If you have guesses as to how the rebels sneaked into a government controlled area and fired a government warhead into their own neighborhood to kill themselves, go ahead and post them.

My guess is that chemical weapons were used by Assad's forces without Assad's explicit order. That makes the Russian initiative to just take them completely out of the conflict make sense. That's the way to avoid a US strike now.

[Wild Cobra]

Link: Various reports (http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2013/08/world/syria-documents/index.html)

[ChumpDumper]

I read the UN report, and the US report.

"High Confidence?"

What percentage is assigned? They even say it isn't a "certainty."That wasn't the UN's mission.

But if you think it was the rebels, tell us all how they pulled it off.

[Wild Cobra]

That wasn't the UN's mission.

But if you think it was the rebels, tell us all how they pulled it off.

I can come up with valid speculation, but it would only be speculation.

Think you're smart for asking such a strawman question?

[whitemamba]

So no real information like I listed above just guesses. If you have guesses as to how the rebels sneaked into a government controlled area and fired a government warhead into their own neighborhood to kill themselves, go ahead and post them.

My guess is that chemical weapons were used by Assad's forces without Assad's explicit order. That makes the Russian initiative to just take them completely out of the conflict make sense. That's the way to avoid a US strike now.

You trying to insult my intelligence is pretty sad, your information comes from sources who caused the world to become what it is. Unfortunately like most American's, you are gravely misinformed. How do you support administrations that kill innocence and have been for the last 5-6 decades. Better you support liberty and the constitution if you want this empire to survive.

[CosmicCowboy]

I can give you a valid speculation. Rebels infiltrate the army all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Whats to keep them from doing the same in Syria and popping off a couple of missiles? It's not like Assad walks around with a "football" where he is the only one that can order a launch.

This is a valid speculation. It is not "my" theory.

[ChumpDumper]

I can come up with valid speculation, but it would only be speculation.

Think you're smart for asking such a strawman question?It wasn't a straw man question. It was a direct question based.

You either believe the rebels did it or you don't.

Do you believe the rebels did it?


You trying to insult my intelligence is pretty sad, your information comes from sources who caused the world to become what it is. Unfortunately like most American's, you are gravely misinformed. How do you support administrations that kill innocence and have been for the last 5-6 decades. Better you support liberty and the constitution if you want this empire to survive.What information do you have that supports your claims.

Post the information.


I can give you a valid speculation. Rebels infiltrate the army all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Whats to keep them from doing the same in Syria and popping off a couple of missiles? It's not like Assad walks around with a "football" where he is the only one that can order a launch.

This is a valid speculation. It is not "my" theory.So they would just gas thousands of their own people under conditions where it would have maximum effect?

Seems unlikely to me.

[Wild Cobra]

Wow...

Such limited binary thinking.

You're getting more stupid all the time Chumpmonkey.

[TeyshaBlue]

Wow...

Such limited binary thinking.

You're getting more stupid all the time Chumpmonkey.

lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222211&page=4&p=6841410&viewfull=1#post6841410

[whitemamba]

It wasn't a straw man question. It was a direct question based.

You either believe the rebels did it or you don't.

Do you believe the rebels did it?

What information do you have that supports your claims.

Post the information.

So they would just gas thousands of their own people under conditions where it would have maximum effect?

Seems unlikely to me.

your starting to get defensive now, drone striking, illegal wars, illegal prisons, CIA funding terrorists to overthrow governments, that is the proof, if you dont know any of these events i suggest you pick up a histroy book from time to time.

[ChumpDumper]

Wow...

Such limited binary thinking.

You're getting more stupid all the time Chumpmonkey.It's a simple question.

Do you think the rebels launched this chemical attack?

Either you do or you don't.

[ChumpDumper]

your starting to get defensive now, drone striking, illegal wars, illegal prisons, CIA funding terrorists to overthrow governments, that is the proof, if you dont know any of these events i suggest you pick up a histroy book from time to time.Innuendo isn't information.

You're just throwing out inforwars buzzwords now. You're another lazy conspiracy non-theorist.

[Axegrinder]

u wuld no wouldnt u?That youre a faggot? Indeed I do..full flamer

[spursncowboys]

Obama kills innocent children on the daily... what makes you think he wont do something like this? Anyone who kills kids is a possible suspect for any bad thing imho.
Obama kills innocent children on the regs?

[TSA]

Guess a black guy mass murdering with a shotgun doesn't keep everyone's attention like a white guy and an AR-15. SMH.

[ChumpDumper]

Poor whitey.

[TSA]

How did this thread turn in to Syria? Seriously.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well yeah, if you have certain policies forced on you that you didn't want or vote for then of course you're going to make the best of the situation. What a terrible human being he is.

Kinda like when you say you are going to leave the board but you don't want to so you just go to various troll accounts?

I agree undoubtedly that rejecting principles for self gain is a hallmark of he and his generation. I just think it's hilarious when boomers try to act like someone else is the selfish one with unrealistic expectations. Unrealistic doesn't matter so much when you can kick the can down the road until after your dead though. There is that.

[Wild Cobra]

Yeah. http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

"He was an IT contractor. He had medium security clearance, high enough to work at multiple Navy offices over the summer. He had an ID badge to enter the Navy Yard. His employer says the shooter jumped through all the right hoops. "
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/us/navy-yard-shooting-knowns-unknowns/
How does that disagree with what I said?

It said he used a valid ID card. they didn't say he used "His" valid ID card.

I read multiple accounts from several media outlets. I'll bet when the dust settles, he used someone elses ID card to get access to where he was. probaly why they thought there was another.

We have a security card security system at work. Being an electronic tech that helps maintain the system, I can pull the access log in seconds. It easily tells me every swipe made by time, location, and user.

[Chief Brody]

Kinda like when you say you are going to leave the board but you don't want to so you just go to various troll accounts?

I agree undoubtedly that rejecting principles for self gain is a hallmark of he and his generation. I just think it's hilarious when boomers try to act like someone else is the selfish one with unrealistic expectations. Unrealistic doesn't matter so much when you can kick the can down the road until after your dead though. There is that.

No not like that at all, but i see you're frustrated and are trying to get jabs in. :lol

You can't be mad at someone for making the best of an unfortunate situation. It just reeks of bitterness.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No not like that at all, but i see you're frustrated and are trying to get jabs in. :lol

You can't be mad at someone for making the best of an unfortunate situation. It just reeks of bitterness.

Actually saying something and not following through by a veneer of bullshit is is like that completely.

Saying you are going to do something given circumstances and not doing it is saying you are going to do something given circumstances and not doing it. Honor is simply the morality of superior men. Behavior modification and troll accounts oh my.

And I also do not buy into the benefit of stoicism on the internet or any forum really is virtue. I get that it 'feeds the trolls' but at the same time people that abandon their principles for self gain and laugh at people that are harmed I don't like. He behaves in a manner cliche with what identify as a problem and I will comment as such. Why don't you call me salty or something too? OH NOES!

[ChumpDumper]

How did this thread turn in to Syria? Seriously.Conspiritard false flag claims.

Obama is black, if that helps soothe your feelings.

[Chief Brody]

Actually saying something and not following through by a veneer of bullshit is is like that completely.

Saying you are going to do something given circumstances and not doing it is saying you are going to do something given circumstances and not doing it. Honor is simply the morality of superior men. Behavior modification and troll accounts oh my.

And I also do not buy into the benefit of stoicism on the internet or any forum really is virtue. I get that it 'feeds the trolls' but at the same time people that abandon their principles for self gain and laugh at people that are harmed I don't like. He behaves in a manner cliche with what identify as a problem and I will comment as such. Why don't you call me salty or something too? OH NOES!
Oh stfu you whiny **** of a man. If he would've come out with the obligatory RIP blah blah blah, would it change your life? Perhaps a sunnier disposition? Lower your blood pressure maybe?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Oh stfu you whiny **** of a man. If he would've come out with the obligatory RIP blah blah blah, would it change your life? Perhaps a sunnier disposition? Lower your blood pressure maybe?

I didn't get 'salty' but your approach to peer pressure is as I expected. In the end, I note that you have abandoned trying reason and have resorted to this tactic. And the irony of calling me a whiny kunt after this recent mewl is not lost on me either.

[Chief Brody]

I didn't get 'salty' but your approach to peer pressure is as I expected. In the end, I note that you have abandoned trying reason and have resorted to this tactic. And the irony of calling me a whiny kunt after this recent mewl is not lost on me either.

Ok cool. Lisinopril, Xanax, and maybe some Lithium will help you.

As you were.

[PlayNando]

That youre a faggot? Indeed I do..full flamer
aw ur cute

too bad ur losing the argument per par

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ok cool. Lisinopril, Xanax, and maybe some Lithium will help you.

As you were.

If you are going to try and insult me then perhaps you should go after something other than my emotional investment into principles. We get that you have none and don't care.

And klonopin is where its at.

[Chief Brody]

If you are going to try and insult me then perhaps you should go after something other than my emotional investment into principles. We get that you have none and don't care.

And klonopin is where its at.

Everybody has principles and nobody wanted to see those 12 people get killed, even if some of us didnt do photo ops in this thread.

Klonopin wouldn't be strong enough unless you took it sublingually

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Everybody has principles and nobody wanted to see those 12 people get killed, even if some of us didnt do photo ops in this thread.

Klonopin wouldn't be strong enough unless you took it sublingually

Speak for yourself and now you are resorting to psychobabble? You abandoned merit awhile ago. Keep dancing, monkey.

This is boring really, if you want to go back to something substantive rather than using psychobabble to support hypocritical and selfish behavior then I might respond. Else the last word is yours.

[Chief Brody]

Yes, my bad. People on this forum were probably partying like it was 1999 when the news broke-,i know i was!

That's awful Christian of you to bear that cross for us, though:tu

[clambake]

How does that disagree with what I said?

It said he used a valid ID card. they didn't say he used "His" valid ID card.

I read multiple accounts from several media outlets. I'll bet when the dust settles, he used someone elses ID card to get access to where he was. probaly why they thought there was another.

We have a security card security system at work. Being an electronic tech that helps maintain the system, I can pull the access log in seconds. It easily tells me every swipe made by time, location, and user.

the FBI says you're wrong. again :lol

[TSA]

Feinstein is reeling right now. Legally acquired shotgun.


This was a fucked up situation no doubt, but I hope it at least opens the eyes of some here that gun control isn't the answer. Gun control will not stop mass shootings. We need to get to the root of the problem with these crazy assholes if we want to see these horrific events decline. CNN of all news outlets ran a piece today saying gun control is not the answer, shocking I know.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes, my bad. People on this forum were probably partying like it was 1999 when the news broke-,i know i was!

That's awful Christian of you to bear that cross for us, though:tu

Not substantive but at least different, monkey. I never said anyone was. That still does not mean that CC's immediate concern wasn't how much a gun accessory was going to cost him.

You aren't very good at this. You have gone from trying to argue on merit to petulant to desperate in a matter of hours.

Dance, monkey, dance.

[TeyshaBlue]

the FBI says you're wrong. again :lol

Shocking.





Not.
lol WildRetard

[DMC]

States with the toughest gun control laws have the fewest gun related deaths.

[TSA]

States with the toughest gun control laws have the fewest gun related deaths.

Wrong thread DMC.

[Chief Brody]

Not substantive but at least different, monkey. I never said anyone was. That still does not mean that CC's immediate concern wasn't how much a gun accessory was going to cost him.

You aren't very good at this. You have gone from trying to argue on merit to petulant to desperate in a matter of hours.

Dance, monkey, dance.
And you fell for CC's post hook line and sinker. You're right, nobody's quite as good as you when it comes to melting down over random posts on an internet forum that have no tangible effect on your life:lol. You need to learn to tone down the whining and preachiness, especially when you come from such a sheltered background

[TSA]

Alexis took Biden's advice.


You don’t need an AR-15. It’s harder to aim, it’s harder to use, and in fact, you don’t need 30 rounds to protect yourself. Buy a shotgun. Buy a shotgun.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And you fell for CC's post hook line and sinker. You're right, nobody's quite as good as you when it comes to melting down over random posts on an internet forum that have no tangible effect on your life:lol. You need to learn to tone down the whining and preachiness, especially when you come from such a sheltered background

:lol melting down? Your need to portray my reaction as such speak much more about you than it does me. It's a hallmark of for example SA210.

I am in full control of my faculties. I just have contempt for that approach. He seems like the embodiment of what is wrong with his generation. And yes that attitude has come out in public policy across the country because of people just like him. It's the something for nothing, I will gladly have my children pay for it after I am dead for a hamburger today generation.

You can call my outlook preachy but you demonstrate no ability to dispute what I am saying on merit. You then try and say that I am whining. The irony is strong in you.

You know nothing of my background. Speak for yourself. Really. You are flailing around like a fool, monkey.

[LnGrrrR]

Here's what is hypocritical about CC: he bitches about people on welfare buying slushies, but sees nothing wrong with using tax credits.

[Chief Brody]

:lol melting down? Your need to portray my reaction as such speak much more about you than it does me. It's a hallmark of for example SA210.

I am in full control of my faculties. I just have contempt for that approach. He seems like the embodiment of what is wrong with his generation. And yes that attitude has come out in public policy across the country because of people just like him. It's the something for nothing, I will gladly have my children pay for it after I am dead for a hamburger today generation. D

You can call my outlook preachy but you demonstrate no ability to dispute what I am saying on merit. You then try and say that I am whining. The irony is strong in you.

You know nothing of my background. Speak for yourself. Really. You are flailing around like a fool, monkey.
You wear your white guilt like a badge of honor so yeah, it's pretty easy to deduce a couple things about your background:lol

[Axegrinder]

aw ur cute

too bad ur losing the argument per par Ya right, I provide facts and you just lie. Noone on this site has EVER lost an argument with you moron

[CosmicCowboy]

:lol melting down? Your need to portray my reaction as such speak much more about you than it does me. It's a hallmark of for example SA210.

I am in full control of my faculties. I just have contempt for that approach. He seems like the embodiment of what is wrong with his generation. And yes that attitude has come out in public policy across the country because of people just like him. It's the something for nothing, I will gladly have my children pay for it after I am dead for a hamburger today generation.

You can call my outlook preachy but you demonstrate no ability to dispute what I am saying on merit. You then try and say that I am whining. The irony is strong in you.

You know nothing of my background. Speak for yourself. Really. You are flailing around like a fool, monkey.

I can't believe just how easy it is to troll this angry, sanctimonious, impotent little faggot.

My message board persona is so in his head he is still raving about it when I'm not even signed in...:lol

[CosmicCowboy]

And for ALL of you guys that fall for this inter generational blame game let me break it to you...every generation has it's winners and losers. It's up to you to decide how bad you want it and how much you are willing to work for it.

There are plenty of guys in your generation kicking ass, my kids included.

Scott's a great example...he's gonna be a wealthy guy some day because he is smart, works hard, sets goals, balances risk and reward, and then goes after what he wants. He is not sitting back waiting for someone to take care of him and is willing to risk great failure to achieve great success.

[LnGrrrR]

CC, do you stop and wonder WHY he might feel comfortable taking risks that others might not?

Do you wonder why he might have more opportunities than others?

[Sportcamper]

Here's what is hypocritical about CC: he bitches about people on welfare buying slushies, but sees nothing wrong with using tax credits.

Uhhh...One needs to generate income to use tax credits....Thought you should know that...:lol

[LnGrrrR]

SC, the point is, both are working the system in some fashion or another. CC argues, "Don't blame me for taking advantages that the system provides!" but then blames others for taking advantages that the system provides.

[Trill Clinton]

I can't believe just how easy it is to troll this angry, sanctimonious, impotent little faggot.


bout as easy as it is to troll your old, dry brisket bbq'n ass:lol

[Wild Cobra]

Uhhh...One needs to generate income to use tax credits....Thought you should know that...:lol
It depends on the specific tax credit. Most "tax credits" are a credit to what you paid in taxes. Therefore, you can get more money back than your tax deductions were.

[Wild Cobra]

SC, the point is, both are working the system in some fashion or another. CC argues, "Don't blame me for taking advantages that the system provides!" but then blames others for taking advantages that the system provides.
Really?

I seem to recall CC having the same viewpoint I do. I do not advocate tax credits or tax deductions for myself. However, I will take them if they are part of the tax system and I am eligible. I have a problem with anyone, rich or poor, who advocates for these tax credits. Not for using them.

Do you follow the difference?

[Sportcamper]

SC, the point is, both are working the system in some fashion or another. CC argues, "Don't blame me for taking advantages that the system provides!" but then blames others for taking advantages that the system provides.

I don’t agree…Some posters in here have paid tens of thousands of dollars (every year) in federal income tax for decades and are not working the system for a once in a lifetime federal give back…

The 2009 tax rebate for new car purchases, cash for clunkers, golf carts, energy upgrades rebates etc helped to get a stagnant economy moving…

[boutons_deux]

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2013_09_MassShootingsALT_4.png

What a great country you gun fellating gun industry shills have poisoned! :lol

[LnGrrrR]

WC, so if the person who was buying slushies didn't advocate for welfare, then it would be totally cool?

I disagree, personally. As I noted in a thread awhile back, I had an option to go on food stamps because of kids, pay, etc etc, but chose not to because I don't think the program was designed for someone like me, who can get by without it. I guess that makes me a "sucker" though.

[TSA]

Why are an overwhelming majority of Mass shooters democrats?

[TeyshaBlue]

WC, so if the person who was buying slushies didn't advocate for welfare, then it would be totally cool?

I disagree, personally. As I noted in a thread awhile back, I had an option to go on food stamps because of kids, pay, etc etc, but chose not to because I don't think the program was designed for someone like me, who can get by without it. I guess that makes me a "sucker" though.

You did yourself a favor. Foods stamps taste terrible.

[LnGrrrR]

Care to back that up TSA?

@TB, :lol

[AntiChrist]

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2013_09_MassShootingsALT_4.png

What a great country you gun fellating gun industry shills have poisoned! :lol

Lotta gun violence in dem blue states

[TSA]

Care to back that up TSA?

I work the voting polls.

[LnGrrrR]

TSA, you could just say, "I made that shit up". Go ahead, we won't judge you.

[TSA]

Fine. My aunt works the voting polls.

[Chief Brody]

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2013_09_MassShootingsALT_4.png

The Hialeah shooting was a welcome site, nothing but useless, illiterate refs there. Can't wait till a hurricane comes through and cleanses that area (hopefully hitting Haiti along the way).

[PlayNando]

Ya right, I provide facts and you just lie. Noone on this site has EVER lost an argument with you moron
Aw, you are resorting to personal attacks now? It just makes it abundantly clear that you have lost the argument, per par.

[Axegrinder]

Aw, you are resorting to personal attacks now? It just makes it abundantly clear that you have lost the argument, per par.But you're really a moron, so it's not hardly an attack. Just some truth that you seem to be allergic to

[PlayNando]

But you're really a moron, so it's not hardly an attack. Just some truth that you seem to be allergic to
:lol :lol :lol

You're a joke.

:lol :lol :lol

[Axegrinder]

:lol :lol :lol

You're a joke.

:lol :lol :lolYou champion a mediocre at best player, lie in pathetic attempts to defend a country that would surrender to a cheerleading squad, and are just in general, a punk.

[PlayNando]

You champion a mediocre at best player, lie in pathetic attempts to defend a country that would surrender to a cheerleading squad, and are just in general, a punk.
Pot calling the kettle black, per par.

Racist scum.

[Axegrinder]

Pot calling the kettle black, per par.

Racist scum.How am I racist short bus? Obviously I have you completely rattled.:lol

[PlayNando]

How am I racist short bus? Obviously I have you completely rattled.:lol
Your boy Skull has Mark Levin and an Obama-hating POS image in his signature. TGY has a signature where he calls Russell Westbrook a monkey. Yes, you area a bitter racist by association. You can't deny the truth.

[Axegrinder]

Your boy Skull has Mark Levin and an Obama-hating POS image in his signature. TGY has a signature where he calls Russell Westbrook a monkey. Yes, you area a bitter racist by association. You can't deny the truth.Never even replied to those two gaymo. Obviously those two are just 2 of the MANY posters here that have destroyed your shitty takes, so you lash out like a petulant child. Might as well list the whole board bottom bitch

[PlayNando]

Never even replied to those two gaymo. Obviously those two are just 2 of the MANY posters here that have destroyed your shitty takes, so you lash out like a petulant child. Might as well list the whole board bottom bitch
:lol :lol :lol

You three are all the same poster, bth.

:lol :lol :lol

You know it's true.

:lol :lol :lol

[Axegrinder]

Wrong as usual GayNando

[Parker2112]

http://youtu.be/VXIYUxZExGk

[Parker2112]

The stand down order. Where has this shit been seen before?

[Parker2112]

Where's the outrage over the government's standown? Sheeples fo reelz.

[ChumpDumper]

Just sounds like a garden variety fuck up.

Are you saying it's something else?

[Parker2112]

A routine stand down. Cant get this under the rug fast enough...dont even bother me with this, tbh...must get back to statist worship. Says chump.

[Parker2112]

Here is some wisdom for you chump: prior to investigation, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IT IS. And sometimes even after. Stop assuming you can stand in for judge, jury and governor's pardon. Stop defending the state before the questioning can take place. THE SYSTEM DOESNT WORK THAT WAY, dumbass.

[ChumpDumper]

No, a routine fuckup. Jurisdictional and mission confusion. Multiple agencies.

I said what I thought it was; there's already an investigation underway. Come out and say what you think it was. Don't be a pussy.

[Parker2112]

Its a stand down. We both know that. The motive is the only issue. And youll never know what the motive is without questioning and cross exams under oath.

[Parker2112]

Name some more instances where armed swat was called off a mass shooting like this. Lol "routine" shooter standdown

[ChumpDumper]

Its a stand down. We both know that. The motive is the only issue. And youll never know what the motive is without questioning and cross exams under oath.Just say what you think it is. Quit being a pussy.


Name some more instances where armed swat was called off a mass shooting like this. Lol "routine" shooter standdownI can tell you about several interdepartmental fuckups. You've never heard of any? Pretty ignorant of you, if true.

[Parker2112]

Just say what you think it is. Quit being a pussy. Its a stand down. Have I said it enough now?



I can tell you about several interdepartmental fuckups. You've never heard of any? Pretty ignorant of you, if true. Way to change the question. But no, this type of "interdepartmental fuckup" is not routine. Nothing about this scenario is routine, tbh. The crime is not routine. The call is not routine. The stand down order is not routine, because the emergency is not routine.

[Parker2112]

LOL, you won't even call it what it is...a stand down order.

[Parker2112]

Funny how quickly you are able to dismiss this...funny how the people involved have been shaken up quite badly...
Gunman Aaron Alexis killed 12 people.

The BBC has also learned that four members of the highly trained team have
applied for temporary leave, as they "grapple" with the aftermath of the
incident.

The Capitol Police department has not yet granted the request, nor given
approval for them to use their own paid time off.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24163244

[Parker2112]

Only a pretty shitty American would sweep this incident under the rug, tbh

[Parker2112]

Members of the Containment and Emergency Response Team
(Cert) are typically debriefed "right away, at the very least the following day"
after an incident, a Capitol Police source said.

"[They] haven't even been given the courtesy of a debrief… They have not even
been given an answer as to why the decision was made that they should not
respond," the source added.
Yeah...looks anything but routine to me chump. Consider yourself out of the water. What other cheap bullshit can you spout. I'll wait.

[ChumpDumper]

Its a stand down. Have I said it enough now?We already know that.


ay to change the question. But no, this type of "interdepartmental fuckup" is not routine. Nothing about this scenario is routine, tbh. The crime is not routine. The call is not routine. The stand down order is not routine, because the emergency is not routine.Fuckups happen.

If you think it was done for some nefarious purpose, man the fuck up and say it.

[Parker2112]

Do either of us know who issued the order? Do we actually know the policy that should have controlled? Do we know how much information was available at the time of the order? No. No. And no. Do we know whether it was done for some nefarious purpose? No. Have we shown reliable evidence that tends to prove that the Pentagon has planned false flag terrorists to strike US Naval facilities in the past? Yes or no.

[Th'Pusher]

Do either of us know who issued the order? Do we actually know the policy that should have controlled? Do we know how much information was available at the time of the order? No. No. And no. Do we know whether it was done for some nefarious purpose? No. Have we shown reliable evidence that tends to prove that the Pentagon has planned false flag terrorists to strike US Naval facilities in the past? Yes or no.
Has there ever been a conspiracy you didn't swallow whole?

[ChumpDumper]

Do either of us know who issued the order? Do we actually know the policy that should have controlled? Do we know how much information was available at the time of the order? No. No. And no. Do we know whether it was done for some nefarious purpose? No. Have we shown reliable evidence that tends to prove that the Pentagon has planned false flag terrorists to strike US Naval facilities in the past? Yes or no.Do you think it was done for some nefarious reason?

Yes or no.

I do not.

[Parker2112]

This is mainstream media reporting facts that you clowns would rather not read. Instead, the lot of you would rather call each other cock suckers and proceed to fellate one another for hours (reference any thread on this board, page 5). I don't buy a fucking thing. I QUESTION. Unlike the circle-jerk of statist conservatives and ultra-statist liberals who inhabit this intellectual vacuum on a daily basis.

[ChumpDumper]

This is mainstream media reporting facts that you clowns would rather not read.I accept the USA Today report.
Blah blah blahDo you think it was done for nefarious purposes?

Yes or no.

I do not.

[Parker2112]

I answered with what I know. You answered with assumptions intended to make unpleasant facts go away. I answered with what I know, and that's the only answer I will give. Unlike you, I have no agenda sufficient to make me look away from certain FACTS.

[Parker2112]

What you think doesn't fucking matter. The facts should be hashed out NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK.

[ChumpDumper]

I answered with what I know. You answered with assumptions intended to make unpleasant facts go away. I answered with what I know, and that's the only answer I will give. Unlike you, I have no agenda sufficient to make me look away from certain FACTS.Of course you have an agenda.

You just don't have the balls to say what you think really happened.

I'm sensing a pattern here.

[Parker2112]

You should do more reading and less cock-sucker calling. You are losing your edge, Chump.

[ChumpDumper]

What you think doesn't fucking matter. The facts should be hashed out NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK.What I think matters just as much as what you think. I merely have the courage to say what I think anonymously on the internet. Not to say that takes a lot of courage, but as you have proved, it's more than you posses.

[Parker2112]

My agenda is to bring to light the facts that tend to make people question the official plot. Why should we not do that Chump?

[Th'Pusher]

What you think doesn't fucking matter. The facts should be hashed out NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK.
And they will be. Why is your initial reaction a conspiratorial tailspin?

[ChumpDumper]

You should do more reading and less cock-sucker calling. You are losing your edge, Chump.You should say what you think happened. You never had an edge because you were always too afraid.

[Parker2112]

New thread for you in three...two..one...

[ChumpDumper]

New thread for you in three...two..one...Whatever keeps you from saying what you think really happened, I guess.

[boobie4three]

Navy Yard: Swat team 'stood down' at mass shooting scene

18 September 2013 Last updated at 17:51 ET
By Debbie Siegelbaum
BBC News, Washington

One of the first teams of heavily armed police to respond to Monday's shooting in Washington DC was ordered to stand down by superiors, the BBC can reveal.

A tactical response team of the Capitol Police, a force that guards the US Capitol complex, was told to leave the scene by a supervisor instead of aiding municipal officers.

The Capitol Police department has launched a review into the matter.

Aaron Alexis, 34, killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard.

"I don't think it's a far stretch to say that some lives may have been saved if we were allowed to intervene," a Capitol Police source familiar with the incident told the BBC.

Assault weapons ready

A former Navy reservist, Alexis was working as a technical contractor for the Navy and had a valid pass and security clearance allowing him entry to the highly secure building in south-east Washington DC.

About 8:15 local time (12:15 GMT), Alexis entered Building 197, headquarters for Naval Sea Systems Command, which builds and maintains ships and submarines for the Navy, and opened fire.

Armed with a shotgun and a pistol he took from a guard he had shot, he sprayed bullets down a hallway and fired from a balcony down on to workers in an atrium.

He fired on police officers who eventually stormed the building, and was later killed in the shootout.

Multiple sources in the Capitol Police department have told the BBC that its highly trained and heavily armed four-man Containment and Emergency Response Team (Cert) was near the Navy Yard when the initial report of an active shooter came in about 8:20 local time.

The officers, wearing full tactical gear and armed with HK-416 assault weapons, arrived outside Building 197 a few minutes later, an official with knowledge of the incident told the BBC.

'A different outcome'

According to a Capitol Police source, an officer with the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD), Washington DC's main municipal force, told the Capitol Cert officers they were the only police on the site equipped with long guns and requested their help stopping the gunman.

When the Capitol Police team radioed their superiors, they were told by a watch commander to leave the scene, the BBC was told.

The gunman, Aaron Alexis, was reported killed after 09:00.

Several Capitol Police sources who spoke to the BBC asked to remain anonymous for fear of reprisal.

Capitol Police Officer Jim Konczos, who leads the officers' union, said the Cert police train for what are known as active shooter situations and are expert marksmen.

"Odds are it might have had a different outcome," he said of Monday's shooting and the decision to order the Cert unit to stand down. "It probably could have been neutralised."

Capitol Hill Police chief Kim Dine has ordered "a comprehensive, independent review of the facts surrounding the Capitol Police's response to the Navy Yard shootings".

The Capitol Police Board responded by establishing what it called a "Fact Review Team", led by Michael Stenger, a former assistant director of the US Secret Service.

Earlier, Capitol Police spokeswoman Lt Kimberly Schneider said its officers had "offered and provided mutual support and assistance at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday".

more...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/24153252

[Th'Pusher]

Capitol Hill Police chief Kim Dine has ordered "a comprehensive, independent review of the facts surrounding the Capitol Police's response to the Navy Yard shootings".

great. Can we at least wait for the outcome before devolving into conspiracy theories?

[Parker2112]

great. Can we at least wait for the outcome before devolving into conspiracy theories? The details are not cooperating, tbh...
Radios failed during Navy Yard attack, emergency responders say
By Kevin Bogardus - 09/19/13 05:38 PM ET



Radios for federal firefighters and police officers failed during Monday’s mass shooting at Washington’s Navy Yard, according to union representatives for first responders.

Union officials said police and firefighters resorted to using their cellphones and radios from D.C.’s emergency responders to communicate with each other during the attack.



Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/323495-radios-failed-during-navy-yard-attack-first-responders-say#ixzz2fb4XaeeI
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[Th'Pusher]

The details are not cooperating, tbh...
Cooperating with what? Police Radios fail and that is evidence of something sinister? You're a fucking moron...

[boutons_deux]

Well it's fucking shithole Kansas

Journalism professor suspended after tweet, ‘blood is on the hands’ of NRA

A journalism professor at the University of Kansas was placed on indefinite administrative leave Friday after he Tweeted about the Navy Yard shooting, saying “blood is on the hands of the #NRA. Next time, let it be YOUR sons and daughters.”

Guth teaches media ethics, as well as strategic and crisis communications, among other classes.
“In order to prevent disruptions to the learning environment for students, the School of Journalism and the university, I have directed Provost Jeffrey Vitter to place Associate Professor Guth on indefinite administrative leave pending a review of the entire situation,” Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little said Friday in a press release (http://news.ku.edu/2013/09/20/guth-placed-administrative-leave). “Professor Guth’s classes will be taught by other faculty members.”

“The news of the senseless slaughter today at Washington’s Navy Yard has me again questioning how we can let this madness continue. Frankly, I don’t care if I am criticized for being too quick to judge, too harsh in my criticism or too strident in my tone. The time has passed for niceties and tact. The blood spilled today is on the hands of the National Rifle Association. I don’t care how the NRA tries to spin this.”

His Twitter account, @DWGuth, has been disabled.

Kansas lawmakers and the Kansas NRA quickly called for his removal after the tweet drew the attention of a conservative activist campus reform site (http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=5088). Kansas Senate Majority Leader Terry Bruce, R-Hutchinson, called on the school to dismiss Guth, noting on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/SenatorTerryBruce?hc_location=timeline) that “Wishing death and damnation upon parents and their children is reprehensible and is not befitting of an employee of such a distinguished university.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/21/journalism-professor-suspended-after-tweet-blood-is-on-the-hands-of-nra/

freedom of speech for gun fellators and right-wingers is not to bused speaking AGAINST them. :lol

more guns = more gun violence, more gun deaths

NRA and gun fellators = soft on crime, blood on their hands for 1000s of dead

[TSA]

Suck start a shotgun boutons