Propaganda (by Edward Bernays, for Chump)

[Parker2112]

Propaganda (1928)
by Edward Bernays




[The] American business community was also very impressed with the propaganda effort. They had a problem at that time. The country was becoming formally more democratic. A lot more people were able to vote and that sort of thing. The country was becoming wealthier and more people could participate and a lot of new immigrants were coming in, and so on.
So what do you do? It's going to be harder to run things as a private club. Therefore, obviously, you have to control what people think. There had been public relation specialists but there was never a public relations industry. There was a guy hired to make Rockefeller's image look prettier and that sort of thing. But this huge public relations industry, which is a U.S. invention and a monstrous industry, came out of the first World War. The leading figures were people in the Creel Commission. In fact, the main one, Edward Bernays, comes right out of the Creel Commission. He has a book that came out right afterwards called Propaganda. The term "propaganda," incidentally, did not have negative connotations in those days. It was during the second World War that the term became taboo because it was connected with Germany, and all those bad things. But in this period, the term propaganda just meant information or something like that. So he wrote a book called Propaganda around 1925, and it starts off by saying he is applying the lessons of the first World War. The propaganda system of the first World War and this commission that he was part of showed, he says, it is possible to "regiment the public mind every bit as much as an army regiments their bodies." These new techniques of regimentation of minds, he said, had to be used by the intelligent minorities in order to make sure that the slobs stay on the right course. We can do it now because we have these new techniques.
This is the main manual of the public relations industry. Bernays is kind of the guru. He was an authentic Roosevelt/Kennedy liberal. He also engineered the public relations effort behind the U.S.-backed coup which overthrew the democratic government of Guatemala.
His major coup, the one that really propelled him into fame in the late 1920s, was getting women to smoke. Women didn't smoke in those days and he ran huge campaigns for Chesterfield. You know all the techniques—models and movie stars with cigarettes coming out of their mouths and that kind of thing. He got enormous praise for that. So he became a leading figure of the industry, and his book was the real manual.


—Noam Chomsky

(From Chomsky's "What Makes Mainstream Media
Mainstream": a talk at Z Media Institute, June 1997)




Contents I. ORGANIZING CHAOS (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION1)
II. THE NEW PROPAGANDA (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION2)
III. THE NEW PROPAGANDISTS (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION3)
IV. THE PSYCHOLOGY OF PUBLIC RELATIONS (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION4)
V. BUSINESS AND THE PUBLIC (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION5)
VI. PROPAGANDA AND POLITICAL LEADERSHIP (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION6)
VII. WOMEN'S ACTIVITIES AND PROPAGANDA (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION7)
VIII. PROPAGANDA FOR EDUCATION (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION8)
IX. PROPAGANDA IN SOCIAL SERVICE (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION9)
X. ART AND SCIENCE (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION10)
XI. THE MECHANICS OF PROPAGANDA (http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html#SECTION11)






CHAPTER I
ORGANIZING CHAOS

THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.
We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.
Our invisible governors are, in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet.
They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure. Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons—a trifling fraction of our hundred and twenty million—who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.
It is not usually realized how necessary these invisible governors are to the orderly functioning of our group life. In theory, every citizen may vote for whom he pleases. Our Constitution does not envisage political parties as part of the mechanism of government, and its framers seem not to have pictured to themselves the existence in our national politics of anything like the modern political machine. But the American voters soon found that without organization and direction their individual votes, cast, perhaps, for dozens or hundreds of candidates, would produce nothing but confusion. Invisible government, in the shape of rudimentary political parties, arose almost overnight. Ever since then we have agreed, for the sake of simplicity and practicality, that party machines should narrow down the field of choice to two candidates, or at most three or four.
In theory, every citizen makes up his mind on public questions and matters of private conduct. In practice, if all men had to study for themselves the abstruse economic, political, and ethical data involved in every question, they would find it impossible to come to a conclusion about anything. We have voluntarily agreed to let an invisible government sift the data and high-spot the outstanding issues so that our field of choice shall be narrowed to practical proportions. From our leaders and the media they use to reach the public, we accept the evidence and the demarcation of issues bearing upon public questions; from some ethical teacher, be it a minister, a favorite essayist, or merely prevailing opinion, we accept a standardized code of social conduct to which we conform most of the time.
In theory, everybody buys the best and cheapest commodities offered him on the market. In practice, if every one went around pricing, and chemically testing before purchasing, the dozens of soaps or fabrics or brands of bread which are for sale, economic life would become hopelessly jammed. To avoid such confusion, society consents to have its choice narrowed to ideas and objects brought to its attention through propaganda of all kinds. There is consequently a vast and continuous effort going on to capture our minds in the interest of some policy or commodity or idea.
It might be better to have, instead of propaganda and special pleading, committees of wise men who would choose our rulers, dictate our conduct, private and public, and decide upon the best types of clothes for us to wear and the best kinds of food for us to eat. But we have chosen the opposite method, that of open competition. We must find a way to make free competition function with reasonable smoothness. To achieve this society has consented to permit free competition to be organized by leadership and propaganda.
Some of the phenomena of this process are criticized—the manipulation of news, the inflation of personality, and the general ballyhoo by which politicians and commercial products and social ideas are brought to the consciousness of the masses. The instruments by which public opinion is organized and focused may be misused. But such organization and focusing are necessary to orderly life.
As civilization has become more complex, and as the need for invisible government has been increasingly demonstrated, the technical means have been invented and developed by which opinion may be regimented.

[Parker2112]

Learn something. Entire text here. http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html

[Parker2112]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

[ChumpDumper]

tldr;

Tell me what you think I should really take away from this.

[Parker2112]

Bernays, working for the administration of Woodrow Wilson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson) during World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) with the Committee on Public Information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Public_Information), was influential in promoting the idea that America's war efforts were primarily aimed at “bringing democracy to all of Europe". Following the war, he was invited by Woodrow Wilson to attend the Paris Peace Conference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Conference,_1919) in 1919.
Stunned by the degree to which the democracy slogan had swayed the public both at home and abroad, he wondered whether this propaganda model could be employed during peacetime. Due to negative implications surrounding the word propaganda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda) because of its use by the Germans in World War I, he promoted the term "Public Relations".[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#cite_note-6) According to the BBC interview with Bernays's daughter Anne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Bernays), Bernays felt that the public's democratic judgment was "not to be relied upon" and he feared that "they [the American public] could very easily vote for the wrong man or want the wrong thing, so that they had to be guided from above". This "guidance" was interpreted by Anne to mean that her father believed in a sort of "enlightened despotism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightened_despotism)" ideology.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#cite_note-7)
This thinking was heavily shared and influenced by Walter Lippmann (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Lippmann), one of the most prominent American political columnists at the time. Bernays and Lippmann sat together on the U.S. Committee on Public Information, and Bernays quotes Lippmann extensively in his seminal work Propaganda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book)).[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
Bernays also drew on the ideas of the French writer Gustave LeBon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_LeBon), the originator of crowd psychology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowd_psychology), and of Wilfred Trotter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Trotter), who promoted similar ideas in the anglophone world in his book Instincts of the Herd in Peace and War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instincts_of_the_Herd_in_Peace_and_War). Bernays refers to these two names in his writings. Trotter, who was a head and neck surgeon at University College Hospital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College_Hospital), London, read Freud's works, and it was he who introduced Wilfred Bion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Bion), whom he lived and worked with, to Freud's ideas. When Freud fled Vienna for London after the Anschluss (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss), Trotter became his personal physician, and Wilfred Bion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Bion) and Ernest Jones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Jones) became key members of the Freudian psychoanalysis movement in England, and would develop the field of Group Dynamics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Dynamics), largely associated with the Tavistock Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavistock_Institute) where many of Freud's followers worked. Thus ideas of group psychology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_psychology) and psychoanalysis came together in London around World War II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II).[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
Bernays's public relations efforts helped to popularize Freud's theories in the United States. Bernays also pioneered the PR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_relations) industry's use of psychology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology) and other social sciences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_sciences) to design its public persuasion campaigns:

If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, is it not possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing about it? The recent practice of propaganda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda) has proved that it is possible, at least up to a certain point and within certain limits.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#cite_note-8)
He called this scientific technique of opinion-molding the 'engineering of consent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Engineering_of_Consent)'.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#cite_note-9)
Bernays began his career as press agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_agent) in 1913, counseling to theaters, concerts and the ballet. In 1917, US President Woodrow Wilson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson) engaged George Creel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Creel) and realizing one of his ideas, he founded the Committee on Public Information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Public_Information). Bernays, Carl Byoir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Byoir) and John Price Jones (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Price_Jones&action=edit&redlink=1) worked together to influence public opinion towards supporting American participation in World War I.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
In 1919, he opened an office as Public Relations Counselor in New York. He held the first Public Relations course at New York University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University) in 1923, publishing the first groundbreaking book on public relations entitled Crystallizing Public Opinion (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crystallizing_Public_Opinion&action=edit&redlink=1) that same year.[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#cite_note-10)

[ChumpDumper]

Conspirabots really are incapable of independent thought.

[Parker2112]

Benays (Frued's nephew) sold WW I to the US people for Wilson. He literally wrote the book on propaganda to steer the masses, utilizing the "herd instinct." His approach is still being used to this day. Or, as he put it, "THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society."

[Parker2112]

You are a herd animal.

[ChumpDumper]

You are a herd animal.So now that you have that out of your system, do you think the Capitol Police stand down at the Naval Yard was done for nefarious purposes?

I don't.

[Parker2112]

I don't need an opinion about this event. I know that these events have been planned by the government in the past, and that domestic media will be colored by the very lenses that Bernays forged in the early 20th Century, through modern practitioners. I only need to keep reaching through the propaganda for the truth. Something you don't give a damn about. You care only about opinion and conjecture, and controlling perception. And you are afraid to not immediately brand some new information with your approval/ disapproval/ criticism/ disdain/ hysterical smilies. Im not like you. I can embrace facts as facts, without the need to color them to suit me.

[Parker2112]

In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgment or of the moral sense; but they put themselves on a level with wood and earth and stones; and wooden men can perhaps be manufactured that will serve the purpose as well. Such command no more respect than men of straw or a lump of dirt. They have the same sort of worth only as horses and dogs. Yet such as these even are commonly esteemed good citizens. Others- as most legislators, politicians, lawyers, ministers, and office-holders- serve the state chiefly with their heads; and, as they rarely make any moral distinctions, they are as likely to serve the devil, without intending it, as God.
A very few- as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense, and men- serve the state with their consciences also, and so necessarily resist it for the most part; and they are commonly treated as enemies by it. A wise man will only be useful as a man, and will not submit to be "clay," and "stop a hole to keep the wind away," but leave that office to his dust at least:

"I am too high-born to be propertied, To be a secondary at control,
Or useful serving-man and instrument
To any sovereign state throughout the world."

[Parker2112]

Civil Disobedience
By Henry David Thoreau
1849

[Parker2112]

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/WALDEN/Essays/civil.html Read that for your own benefit chump.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't need an opinion about this event. I know that these events have been planned by the government in the past, and that domestic media will be colored by the very lenses that Bernays forged in the early 20th Century, through modern practitioners. I only need to keep reaching through the propaganda for the truth. Something you don't give a damn about. You care only about opinion and conjecture, and controlling perception. And you are afraid to not immediately brand some new information with your approval/ disapproval/ criticism/ disdain/ hysterical smilies. Im not like you. I can embrace facts as facts, without the need to color them to suit me.Of course, you just showed what colors your opinions -- when you have the courage to actually state them.

You just throw out conspiracy innuendo and then are quickly reduced to a babbling pastebot when asked to expand upon your foundation of crap.

I think you have nothing to offer me aside from innuendo and pasting.

Prove me wrong if you can. I don't think you can.

[Parker2112]

Mainstream media reports, declassified government documents, and widely understood U.S. history hardly classifies as "conspiracy innuendo," does it? Yes or no.

[Parker2112]

Learn some history chump. it would do you good. And if you need me to explain that quote to you...well I don't really have the fuggin time, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Mainstream media reports, declassified government documents, and widely understood U.S. history hardly classifies as "conspiracy innuendo," does it? Yes or no.Your innuendo is your innuendo.

I called you on it in this case and you shit yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

Learn some history chump. it would do you good. And if you need me to explain that quote to you...well I don't really have the fuggin time, tbh.You had time to look up and copy and paste all this shit to distract from the fact you couldn't answer a simple yes or no question.

You have the time.

[Parker2112]

Actually, you are squirming like a whore in church because I limit this encounter to the facts. Because the facts tend to favor my agenda, which is "question domestic plot-lines."

[Parker2112]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LK9a8AT2b8 These mofos are still using Bernays' methods.

[TSA]

So now that you have that out of your system, do you think the Capitol Police stand down at the Naval Yard was done for nefarious purposes?

I don't.
Why do you think it was done?

[Parker2112]

And Operation Northwoods still makes good sense to a very many traitors in this country.

[Parker2112]

Why do you favor the traitors, chump?

[ChumpDumper]

Actually, you are squirming like a whore in church because I limit this encounter to the facts. Because the facts tend to favor my agenda, which is "question domestic plot-lines."Well the facts are already known and the investigation is already underway -- so what is you point?


Why do you think it was done?There was probably confusion as to how this incident fit into the overall mission of the Capitol Police, as they are a separate entity from the DC Metro Police and exist for a different reason.


Why do you favor the traitors, chump?Who do you claim to be the traitors?

Name them.

[Parker2112]

Traitors are anyone who would take us to war via propaganda. I see a couple of actors above. Lets start there. Charles Jaco. CNN chick. Carl Rochelle. Their boss. Their boss's boss. And lets include all of the Joint Chiefs who signed off on Operation Northwoods. They are all known conspirators.

[Parker2112]

Tons in the Bush Administration. Tons in the Obama Administration. That made sure that no one in the Bush Administration would ever face charges.

[Parker2112]

Bernays is a traitor for selling WW I under admitted propaganda.

[Parker2112]

Wilson Admin officials were complicit. Probably right up to Woodrow himself.

[SnakeBoy]

There was probably confusion as to how this incident fit into the overall mission of the Capitol Police, as they are a separate entity from the DC Metro Police and exist for a different reason.


This is crazy talk. The capitol police exist to protect congress so the only explanation for why they didn't defend the naval yard is that it was a conspiracy. Wake up and connect the dots!

[Parker2112]

Can we get some indictments here?

[Parker2112]

I still fuggin like your style, snake. You always tickle my funny bone.

[Parker2112]

Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Terry Gainer said that while the department's primary responsibility was to protect
the Capitol complex, which houses the US Congress, that mission did not allow it
to turn a "blind eye" when asked for help.
"It's a very serious allegation and inference to indicate that we were on scene
and could have helped and were told to leave," he said. "It crushes me if that's
the case."

[ChumpDumper]

Traitors are anyone who would take us to war via propaganda. I see a couple of actors above. Lets start there. Charles Jaco. CNN chick. Carl Rochelle. Their boss. Their boss's boss. And lets include all of the Joint Chiefs who signed off on Operation Northwoods. They are all known conspirators.


Tons in the Bush Administration. Tons in the Obama Administration. That made sure that no one in the Bush Administration would ever face charges.


Bernays is a traitor for selling WW I under admitted propaganda.


Wilson Admin officials were complicit. Probably right up to Woodrow himself.


Can we get some indictments here?So you named four people.

What charges are you calling for Jaco and Rochelle?

[Parker2112]

Already told you. You weren't smart enough to pick it out of the quoted post.

[Parker2112]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uUlOAyQsn4

[ChumpDumper]

Already told you. You weren't smart enough to pick it out of the quoted post.So upon what precedent or statute are you proposing this prosecution you refuse to describe?

[Parker2112]

What crime is a traitor guilty of, Chump?

[Parker2112]

18 U.S.C. § 2381

[Parker2112]

18 U.S.C. § 2384

[Parker2112]

18 U.S.C. § 2388

[ChumpDumper]

18 U.S.C. § 2381


18 U.S.C. § 2384


18 U.S.C. § 2388OK, so how did the actions of each person you named, and all the others you didn't, meet the conditions of those statutes?

You have to be specific for each one. These are serious charges you are making.

[Parker2112]

Members of the media have been convicted for false statements affecting our armed forces before. Dont take my word for it though.


192 F.2d 338

United States Court of Appeals Ninth Circuit.

IVA IKUKO TOGURI D’AQUINO
v.
UNITED STATES.

No. 12383.

Oct. 10, 1951.


After having been employed in various jobs in 1942 and in the early part of 1943, appellant sought employment at Radio Tokyo and began her work as a typist for the Broadcasting Corporation of Japan in the fall of 1943. Shortly thereafter she began her broadcast work for this corporation which was under the control of the Japanese Government. There is evidence in the record that when the appellant took her voice test and accepted employment as an announcer and broadcaster for Radio Tokyo she knew that her work was to be concerned with a program known as “Zero Hour” which was to be beamed and directed specially to Allied soldiers in the Pacific. She was told and understood that the program would consist of music and entertainment designed to procure a listening audience among Allied soldiers, and that there was to be interspersed news and commentaries containing propaganda which was to be used as an instrument of psychological warfare. Their object was to cause the Allied troops to become homesick, tired and disgusted with the war.

[ChumpDumper]

Members of the media have been convicted for false statements affecting our armed forces before. Dont take my word for it though.That has no relevance here. Stick to the cases you are currently failing to make.

[Parker2112]

Bullshit. You don't have much imagination. Good attorneys do. I could use this precedent to prosecute a case.

[ChumpDumper]

Bullshit. You don't have much imagination. Good attorneys do. I could use this precedent to prosecute a case.How, counselor?

[Parker2112]

Successfully frame those interests pushing our nation to war (you would insist that these are imaginary, but the video above shows at least some members of the media to be complicit) as "enemies" of the United States, using propaganda to influence our foreign policy, place our troops in harms way, drain our resources, and otherwise and expose us to greater risk at the hands of extremists. In other words, the enemy using psychological propaganda via the media to instigate us into unnecessary conflict, thus waging war on our military, our coffers, and our national security.

[ChumpDumper]

Successfully frame those interests pushing our nation to war (you would insist that these are imaginary, but the video above shows at least some members of the media to be complicit) as "enemies" of the United States, using propaganda to influence our foreign policy, place our troops in harms way, drain our resources, and otherwise and expose us to greater risk at the hands of extremists. In other words, the enemy using psychological propaganda via the media to instigate us into unnecessary conflict, thus waging war on our military, our coffers, and our national security.Again, go ahead and show how each violated each code you listed.

You already missed the mark with with the instigate into unnecessary conflict. That had nothing to do with anything Tokyo Rose did.

Some precedent.

[Parker2112]

Do they use propaganda to achieve gun control aims? You bet your ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxAWy_bUuio

[ChumpDumper]

lol disappearing nose a closer look

[Parker2112]

Enemies use different tactics to bring America down. You can attack it overtly or covertly. Tokyo Rose used psychological to attack our forces covertly, thus placing them in increased danger. If someone uses psychological warfare (as Tokyo Rose DID DO and CNN did) via false news reports (as Tokyo Rose DID DO and CNN did as well) to effectively place our troops at an increased danger level (as Tokyo Rose DID DO and CNN did as well) and CAUSE HARM TO OUR NATION (as Tokyo Rose was convicted of doing and CNN definitely did) by inciting war (CNN DID DO, Tokyo Rose was acting during wartime)....wtf else do you need to hear? :wakeup

[Parker2112]

Did Anderson Cooper ever work for the CIA? Yes or No.

[Parker2112]

Answer is Yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Cooper

[ChumpDumper]

Enemies use different tactics to bring America down. You can attack it overtly or covertly. Tokyo Rose used psychological to attack our forces covertly, thus placing them in increased danger. If someone uses psychological warfare (as Tokyo Rose DID DO and CNN did) via false news reports (as Tokyo Rose DID DO and CNN did as well) to effectively place our troops at an increased danger level (as Tokyo Rose DID DO and CNN did as well) and CAUSE HARM TO OUR NATION (as Tokyo Rose was convicted of doing and CNN definitely did) by inciting war (CNN DID DO, Tokyo Rose was acting during wartime)....wtf else do you need to hear? :wakeup lol you have no way of proving any causation with CNN.

Nor intent.

Did Anderson Cooper ever work for the CIA? Yes or No.Summer internship.

Are you saying he is still working for them?

Yes or no.

[Parker2112]

Its a relevant line of investigation and questioning.

[ChumpDumper]

Its a relevant line of investigation and questioning.So your treason prosecution is a fishing expedition?

lol motion denied

[Parker2112]

Have you ever heard of the discovery phase?

[ChumpDumper]

You have to get the indictment first.

[Parker2112]

Anderson Cooper, CNN, war and propaganda, all foretold by Woodrow Wilson's right hand man....
THE media by which special pleaders transmit their messages to the public through propaganda include all the means by which people to-day transmit their ideas to one another. There is no means of human communication which may not also be a means of deliberate propaganda, because propaganda is simply the establishing of reciprocal understanding between an individual and a group.
The important point to the propagandist is that the relative value of the various instruments of propaganda, and their relation to the masses, are constantly changing. If he is to get full reach for his message he must take advantage of these shifts of value the instant they occur. Fifty years ago, the public meeting was a propaganda instrument par excellence. To-day it is difficult to get more than a handful of people to attend a public meeting unless extraordinary attractions are part of the program. The automobile takes them away from home, the radio keeps them in the home, the successive daily editions of the newspaper bring information to them in office or subway, and also they are sick of the ballyhoo of the rally.
Instead there are numerous other media of communication, some new, others old but so transformed that they have become virtually new.

[Parker2112]

It might be better to have, instead of propaganda and special pleading, committees of wise men who would choose our rulers, dictate our conduct, private and public, and decide upon the best types of clothes for us to wear and the best kinds of food for us to eat. But we have chosen the opposite method, that of open competition. We must find a way to make free competition function with reasonable smoothness. To achieve this society has consented to permit free competition to be organized by leadership and propaganda.

[ChumpDumper]

Are you saying Anderson Cooper is still working for the the CIA?

Yes or no.

[Parker2112]

Some of the phenomena of this process are criticized—the manipulation of news, the inflation of personality, and the general ballyhoo by which politicians and commercial products and social ideas are brought to the consciousness of the masses. The instruments by which public opinion is organized and focused may be misused. But such organization and focusing are necessary to orderly life.

[Parker2112]

I told you I have no proof. Did his nose disappear: yes or no. I'll wait.

[Parker2112]

As civilization has become more complex, and as the need for invisible government has been increasingly demonstrated, the technical means have been invented and developed by which opinion may be regimented.
With the printing press and the newspaper, the railroad, the telephone, telegraph, radio and airplanes, ideas can be spread rapidly and even instantaneously over the whole of America.

[ChumpDumper]

I told you I have no proof.Do you think he still is?

Yes or no.

lol disappearing nose: a closer look

[Parker2112]

I think his invisible nose is part of the invisible government spoken of by Bernays. There you have it. You finally got it out of me.

[Parker2112]

everything wrapped up tight in a bow as far as I am concerned.

[ChumpDumper]

I think his invisible nose is part of the invisible government spoken of by Bernays. There you have it. You finally got it out of me.


everything wrapped up tight in a bow as far as I am concerned.Huh?

Explain.

I think it was just used to show him as closer to the site of an event than he actually was.

Which is more plausible?

[Parker2112]

Should have used blue I suppose. Nonetheless, did he lie? Did the woman he was interviewing lie as well? Was she involved in the shooting at all? Who coordinated this hoax? Where does the lying stop? Is this propaganda? Is it meant to further an anti-gun agenda? Does Anderson Cooper still carry out CIA orders? Does CNN employ very many ex-CIA employees? Is CNN used to push propaganda? If so to what extent? What does this say for CNN's credibility? What does Anderson Cooper's fake interview say for his own credibility? The woman's? Most important, why aren't answers to these questions demanded by the public? Why aren't we holding their feet to the fire? Is the truth being obscured from public eyes purposely? Is this what Bernays spoke of in his book "Propaganda"?

[Parker2112]

So Anderson's nose is just like the figure on a stick in front of the fire in the cave, huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2afuTvUzBQ

[Parker2112]

Any dictator would admire the
uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media. (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/n/noamchomsk143312.html)

Noam Chomsky (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/n/noam_chomsky.html)

[ChumpDumper]

Should have used blue I suppose. Nonetheless, did he lie? Did the woman he was interviewing lie as well? Was she involved in the shooting at all? Who coordinated this hoax? Where does the lying stop? Is this propaganda? Is it meant to further an anti-gun agenda? Does Anderson Cooper still carry out CIA orders? Does CNN employ very many ex-CIA employees? Is CNN used to push propaganda? If so to what extent? What does this say for CNN's credibility? What does Anderson Cooper's fake interview say for his own credibility? The woman's? Most important, why aren't answers to these questions demanded by the public? Why aren't we holding their feet to the fire? Is the truth being obscured from public eyes purposely? Is this what Bernays spoke of in his book "Propaganda"?Turns out it wasn't a hoax at all. It was simply a result of video compression from a remote transmission.


http://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-sandy-hook-anderson-cooper-green-screen-disappearing-nose-with-pozner.1148/

I don't expect you to read this. Let's just concede that will make you grand jury laugh you out of a job and you can move on to the next conspiracy.

[ChumpDumper]

And congratulations for accusing the mother of the youngest Sandy Hook victim of being involved in the shooting. Her six year old son's hand and jaw were blown away and you just said she was behind it.

Way to go. I can't wait to see what your ignorant ranting produces next.

[Parker2112]

Nice strawman smear. What I said was...Was she involved in the bogus news production?

[Parker2112]

I mean obviously she knew that she was standing in front of a green screen, and not at a memorial service happening in another town, right? Or was it just spliced and cgi'd completely? Or should we just say enough is enough and refuse to buy anything else that CNN is sellin'?

[ChumpDumper]

So you didn't read the thread I posted. Read it and try again.

Keep making me look good and keep accusing murder victims' mothers of treason. :tu

[Parker2112]

Show me where I accused her of anything. Or if all you can do is throw out weak strawman smear attempts, stfu. Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

Show me where I accused her of anything. Or if all you can do is throw out weak strawman smear attempts, stfu. Yes or no.You insinuated she was complicit in an act of treason (well, what you stupidly characterize as an act of treason)..

Read the thread yet?

[Parker2112]

Read your thread (missed it before). Your source for phone a friend loses credibility, because he fails to address the most obvious bullshit involved: the reporter's demeanor. The reporter goes from laughing to fearing for his life and donning a gas mask for show. Sorry, but like you, his agenda shines clearly.

[ChumpDumper]

Read your thread (missed it before). Your source for phone a friend loses credibility, because he fails to address the most obvious bullshit involved: the reporter's demeanor. The reporter goes from laughing to fearing for his life and donning a gas mask for show. Sorry, but like you, his agenda shines clearly.Anderson Cooper put on a gas mask at Sandy Hook?

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

You're the dumbest poster ever.

The nose distortion was video compression from a remote transmission. The uncompressed footage is linked right there. Your entire world was destroyed today. How does it feel?

[Parker2112]

You dont even know wtf your phone a friend said...you didnt even finish reading the shit that YOU posted. Keep up the great work, chump. Thanks for drawing so much attention to this thread as well. Your death by a thousand cuts/smear the OP through strawman bullshit has brought a lot of people to the truth about propaganda in this country. Job well done, fool.

[ChumpDumper]

You dont even know wtf your phone a friend said...you didnt even finish reading the shit that YOU posted. Keep up the great work, chump. Thanks for drawing so much attention to this thread as well. Your death by a thousand cuts/smear the OP through strawman bullshit has brought a lot of people to the truth about propaganda in this country. Job well done, fool.You are saying the new world order conspired to make a CNN reporter act like he was panicking in a what yoiu say is a fake war zone after he whiffed a few fumes that they instantly concluded was not chemical weapons?

What purpose could that possibly serve?

[ChumpDumper]

Here's the thread on the Jaco remote.

You would really save yourself a lot of embarrassment if you just looked even on thing up yourself.

http://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-cnns-fake-news-broadcasts-charles-jaco-and-the-fake-live-gulf-war-reports.1140/

[ChumpDumper]

But good job wasting time on a tangent. I fully expect you to try to change the subject again as your world crumbles around you.

[Blake]

Parker would make a terrible prosecutor

[Parker2112]

Again, your guy is glossing over the actual propaganda going on in that clip.

[Parker2112]

I would grill you bitches on the stand till your faces turned red. There would be no strawmen, no smearing, no phone a friend, no evasive tactics. Just you, me, and the Holy Bible to kick your asses all day long.

[ChumpDumper]

Again, your guy is glossing over the actual propaganda going on in that clip.
You'll have to be specific. You've been whining about video. Now that you failed with that you are mvoing the goalposts.

I would grill you bitches on the stand till your faces turned red. There would be no strawmen, no smearing, no phone a friend, no evasive tactics. Just you, me, and the Holy Bible to kick your asses all day long.
You failed here.

Badly.

[Blake]

I would grill you bitches on the stand till your faces turned red. There would be no strawmen, no smearing, no phone a friend, no evasive tactics. Just you, me, and the Holy Bible to kick your asses all day long.

I can see the red faced/red assed anger in your post

[Parker2112]

Lol, check the OP, Chump. Check the number of viewers on this thread. What did I fail at again?

[ChumpDumper]

You tried to sell thoroughly pre-debunked conspiracies.

Didn't work out for you too well. Everyone checked in to see your dumpster fire.

[Parker2112]

The truth was spread. Tellingly, you never touched the op. But you kept the thread alive long enough for people to learn some history. History that might help them navigate the waters of the shit that folks like you are selling.

[ChumpDumper]

The truth was spread. Tellingly, you never touched the op. But you kept the thread alive long enough for people to learn some history. History that might help them navigate the waters of the shit that folks like you are selling. I know all about the propaganda regarding WWI and pretty much every other war. You tried to accuse CNN of treason and fake reporting.

That was a lie. You undid anything you set out to do and now just look like a fool.

[Blake]

History that might help them navigate the waters of the shit that folks like you are selling.

the good thing is that those waters are fluoridated.

[Fabbs]

originally by Rump Humper
tldr;

Tell me what you think I should really take away from this.


You are a herd animal.
:lol

[ChumpDumper]

lol multiflabbs