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boutons_deux
09-30-2013, 05:33 AM
Singh was pulled over in January for a flat tire, and was harassed by the state's Department of Transportation officers who wrongly assumed that his kirpan, a small spiritual sword that is a religious article for Sikhs, was illegal. They taunted him as a "terrorist" and arrested him for refusing to obey "an officer's lawful command," reports the ACLU (https://www.aclu.org/blog/religion-belief-racial-justice/judge-sikh-man-remove-rag-or-go-jail).

On his March 26th court date, Judge Aubrey Rimes of the Pike County Justice Court ejected him from the courtroom stating that Singh would not be allowed to re-enter unless he removed "that rag" from his head.

Singh's attorney confirmed (https://www.aclu.org/blog/religion-belief-racial-justice/judge-sikh-man-remove-rag-or-go-jail) that Rimes expelled him due to his turban. However, Singh's faith mandates the covering and he believes that to unwrap it in public would be both sacrilegious and shameful.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/27/judge-rimes-sikh-slur-remove-that-rag_n_3998852.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/27/judge-rimes-sikh-slur-remove-that-rag_n_3998852.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)

America is SO Beautiful in Confederate and red states.

I note that it's possible in very blue NYC: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/23/sikh-professor-attacked-by-teens-in-new-york-city-they-called-me-a-terrorist/

but that equates a MS judge with NYC street punks. MS still wins the beauty contest.

TDMVPDPOY
09-30-2013, 05:38 AM
lol those clowns down here want to ride a motorbike without a helmet cause it conflicts with the turban...fkn clowns will always be clowns

boutons_deux
09-30-2013, 06:22 AM
lol those clowns down here want to ride a motorbike without a helmet cause it conflicts with the turban...fkn clowns will always be clowns

We have lots of clowns in USA riding motorcycles without out helmets because it conflicts with their "freedom". Avg costs of a motorcycle accident is $1.5M, of which the "freedom" riders pay very little, if any. Their (taxpayer funded) "freedom" is riding without helmets or insurance.

101A
09-30-2013, 08:47 AM
We have lots of clowns in USA riding motorcycles without out helmets because it conflicts with their "freedom". Avg costs of a motorcycle accident is $1.5M, of which the "freedom" riders pay very little, if any. Their (taxpayer funded) "freedom" is riding without helmets or insurance.

Link?

boutons_deux
09-30-2013, 08:51 AM
I can't find the link now but google "average cost of motorcycle accident", LOTS of studies

RandomGuy
09-30-2013, 12:54 PM
Singh was pulled over in January for a flat tire, and was harassed by the state's Department of Transportation officers who wrongly assumed that his kirpan, a small spiritual sword that is a religious article for Sikhs, was illegal. They taunted him as a "terrorist" and arrested him for refusing to obey "an officer's lawful command," reports the ACLU (https://www.aclu.org/blog/religion-belief-racial-justice/judge-sikh-man-remove-rag-or-go-jail).

On his March 26th court date, Judge Aubrey Rimes of the Pike County Justice Court ejected him from the courtroom stating that Singh would not be allowed to re-enter unless he removed "that rag" from his head.

Singh's attorney confirmed (https://www.aclu.org/blog/religion-belief-racial-justice/judge-sikh-man-remove-rag-or-go-jail) that Rimes expelled him due to his turban. However, Singh's faith mandates the covering and he believes that to unwrap it in public would be both sacrilegious and shameful.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/27/judge-rimes-sikh-slur-remove-that-rag_n_3998852.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/27/judge-rimes-sikh-slur-remove-that-rag_n_3998852.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)

America is SO Beautiful in Confederate and red states.

I note that it's possible in very blue NYC: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/23/sikh-professor-attacked-by-teens-in-new-york-city-they-called-me-a-terrorist/

but that equates a MS judge with NYC street punks. MS still wins the beauty contest.







NM... read it wrong redacted.
amiright?

vy65
09-30-2013, 01:22 PM
We have lots of clowns in USA riding motorcycles without out helmets because it conflicts with their "freedom". Avg costs of a motorcycle accident is $1.5M, of which the "freedom" riders pay very little, if any. Their (taxpayer funded) "freedom" is riding without helmets or insurance.


Patients who had worn helmets during their crash had average hospital costs of $31,158, as opposed to $37,317 for those who hadn't worn a helmet. Ninety-two percent of the helmeted riders were insured, while only 86 percent of unhelmeted riders were.

http://scienceblog.com/community/older/2002/B/20026226.html


According to the NHTSA, medical costs are the most expensive part of a motorcycle accident. Medical costs will vary greatly depending upon several factors. If a motorcyclist was wearing a helmet yet suffered fatal wounds, hospital medical costs average around $14,000 per person. If a motorcyclist suffered fatal injuries without wearing a helmet, medical costs rise to roughly $16,000 per person.

http://www.motorcycleaccident.org/the-cost-of-motorcycle-accident-injuries/

inb4 Big Helmet and Big Motorcylce lying about the #s

The Reckoning
09-30-2013, 01:39 PM
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boutons_deux
10-01-2013, 09:30 AM
More red-state judging

Nebraska Man Sentenced To Ban On Romantic Relationships (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/01/2702771/nebraska-man-sentenced-to-ban-on-romantic-relationships/)

Although Hoadley could have seen more jail time for the offense, Judge Mark Johnson took his sentencing in a different direction after he noted that Hoadley had a “moral compass.” He then imposed his own morals (http://norfolkdailynews.com/news/man-ordered-not-to-be-romantically-involved-as-part-of/article_669eced8-2846-11e3-a352-0019bb30f31a.html) on Hoadley, ordering him to pay an $1,800 fee and serve probation — and a ban on romantic relationships. “You need to focus on you,” Johnson said, according to the Norfolk Daily News. If Hoadley doesn’t comply with these probation terms, he could see 120 days in jail.

The U.S. Supreme Court has also suggested (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/01/2702771/nebraska-man-sentenced-to-ban-on-romantic-relationships/reasonably%20related%20to%20legitimate%20penologic al%20interests.) that those under correctional supervision only have weaker constitutional rights — including privacy, due process, and other fundamental freedoms — if incursions on those rights are “reasonably related to legitimate penological interests.”


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/01/2702771/nebraska-man-sentenced-to-ban-on-romantic-relationships/

boutons_deux
10-01-2013, 09:34 AM
Pastor Who Claimed He Raped Teenage Boys to Keep Them “Sexually Pure” Will Not Serve Jail Time (http://www.loonwatch.com/2013/09/pastor-who-claimed-he-raped-teenage-boys-to-keep-them-sexually-pure-will-not-serve-jail-time/)

Iowa pastor and youth counselor Brent Girouex, who claimed with a straight face that he was trying to “cure” teenage boys of their “homosexual urges” by having sex with them, has had his sentence reduced from 17 years in prison to sex offender treatment and probation.

Since Girouex confessed to having sex with four underage boys, eight additional young men have come forward saying they were sexually violated by the 31-year-old pastor. Girouex, who is not longer a pastor at the Victory Fellowship Church, believed that he could rape away the gay by “praying while he had sexual contact” with the boys, all in an effort to keep them “sexually pure” for God.

According to reports, he told police that “when they would ejaculate, they would be getting rid of the evil thoughts in their mind.”

http://www.loonwatch.com/2013/09/pastor-who-claimed-he-raped-teenage-boys-to-keep-them-sexually-pure-will-not-serve-jail-time/

"in their mind"? :lol where would they have evil thoughts?

boutons_deux
10-01-2013, 09:58 AM
gerrymandered red PA!

Pennsylvania church puts pastor on ‘trial’ for officiating son’s gay marriage in Massachusetts

A Pennsylvania pastor who is facing a “trial” by his church said that he officiated his son’s same sex wedding because the couple was “just as worthy and precious in God’s sight as anybody else.”

In an interview published on Monday, Rev. Frank Schaefer of the Zion United Methodist Church of Iona in Lebanon told The Patriot News (http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/09/frank_schaefer_united_methodis.html?utm_source=dlv r.it&utm_medium=twitter) that he thought he was following Christian principles when he agreed to help the couple get married in 2007.

“We just love him so much it was an honor to be asked. Had I said no to him, it would have negated all the affirmations we gave him for all those year…that we believe you are just as worthy and precious in God’s sight as anybody else,” he explained.

Only 26 days before the statute of limitations would have run out, one of the members of Schaefer’s congregation filed a complaint with church officials.

“Sadly, our church is once again being led down the path of a costly and divisive trial by a pastor who chose to disregard the prayerful and consistent teaching of our church that Christian marriage is the holy union of one man and one woman,” evangelical United Methodist Rev. Thomas Lambrecht insisted to UMC Connections (http://umcconnections.org/2013/09/23/trial-date-set-pennsylvania-pastor-officiated-sons-sex-wedding/) earlier this month. “As a father, I share Rev. Schaefer’s desire to affirm his son, but there are ways of doing so that do not require a pastor to break the Discipline and the covenant that all United Methodist pastors agree to uphold.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/30/pennsylvania-church-puts-pastor-on-trial-for-officiating-sons-gay-marriage-in-massachusetts/

fucking "Christians" following the loving, welcoming example the Christ The Hater :lol

Th'Pusher
11-17-2013, 01:31 PM
Link?

Ran across this today...




Biking without a helmet
No brainer
Feel the wind in your hair; bill the taxpayer for your injuries
Nov 16th 2013 | LINCOLN, NEBRASKA |From the print edition (http://www.economist.com/printedition/2013-11-16)
Born to be wildly irresponsible


STAFF at the Madonna Rehabilitation Hospital in Lincoln, Nebraska can sometimes guess the home state of the motorcyclists they treat. Nebraska obliges all riders to wear helmets; neighbouring Iowa, Kansas and South Dakota do not. The helmetless are distinctive, says Dr Lori Terryberry-Spohr: they suffer “diffuse” internal bleeding and cell death across large areas. Such patients typically run up $1.3m in direct medical costs. Fewer than a third work again. A study of helmet-shunning bikers admitted to one large hospital, cited by the Centres for Disease Control (CDC), found that taxpayers paid for 63% of their care.


During the 2013 legislative session, 19 bills were introduced in 11 states to repeal all-rider helmet laws. None passed. Appeals to thrift can take some of the credit. For years, helmet-advocates stressed human suffering when giving evidence to state legislatures. Now they also stress costs to taxpayers. Libertarians often demand: “Let those who ride decide,” says Jacqueline Gillan, who heads Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety, an insurer-funded lobby group. Her retort is: “Let those who pay have a say.”


When states repeal or weaken motorcycle-helmet laws, as dozens have, helmet use falls, fatalities rise and head-injury hospitalisations soar. Biker deaths rose 18% after Michigan repealed its all-rider helmet law in 2012. A rule obliges unhelmeted Michigan riders to carry at least $20,000 in medical-payments coverage. That does not even cover initial stabilisation in intensive care after a nasty crash.


Helmet-haters claim that increased deaths merely reflect a jump in miles ridden after laws are repealed, as bikers enjoy the wind in their hair. Not so. Some studies measure death rates by motorcycle-miles travelled: deaths-per-bike-mile rose 25% when Texas scrapped helmets, for instance. In Washington Tom Petri, the Republican chairman of the House of Representatives committee that oversees highways, wants the CDC to stop researching motorcycle safety. :lol The agency seems to have “an anti-motorcycle agenda”, he growls. Asked about accidents involving the helmetless, he says: “I don’t think there’s that clear a correlation.”

Earlier this year Dave Bloomfield, a Republican state senator in Nebraska, sponsored an abortive bid to make helmets optional for adults. “We don’t know that there will be more deaths,” he argues, before offering an anecdote about a biker who took a three-state detour to avoid riding through Nebraska in a helmet, depriving the state of his spending on food and fuel. Mr Bloomfield will try again in 2014. Asked directly, he concedes that—personally—he thinks it “silly” to ride a motorcycle without a helmet on the highway. “But government shouldn’t tell people what to do,” he says. How about taxpayers?

boutons_deux
11-17-2013, 01:45 PM
http://scienceblog.com/community/older/2002/B/20026226.html



http://www.motorcycleaccident.org/the-cost-of-motorcycle-accident-injuries/

inb4 Big Helmet and Big Motorcylce lying about the #s

from a post below:

The helmetless are distinctive, says Dr Lori Terryberry-Spohr: they suffer “diffuse” internal bleeding and cell death across large areas. Such patients typically run up $1.3m in direct medical costs.Fewer than a third work again. A study of helmet-shunning bikers admitted to one large hospital, cited by the Centres for Disease Control (CDC), found that taxpayers paid for 63% of their care.

mouse
11-18-2013, 05:38 AM
If you ask any of them when was it first written you had to cover your head you get conflicting answers.

koYWznEIV50

ErnestLynch
11-19-2013, 06:07 PM
People don't care when people kill themselves. Which is why drunk driving isn't the big threat they like you to believe it is. Only 5% of road deaths are caused by drunk drivers killing someone besides THEMSELVES and part of that 5% are their passengers.

DMC
11-20-2013, 01:00 AM
Go to India or some middle eastern country, appear in court and use your religion as a reason to disobey the authority. See how that flies. Bet it doesn't even make the paper.

ErnestLynch
11-20-2013, 01:57 AM
or, it may very well make the paper. You're a ME expert ? Read a lot of ME papers have you ?