The truth is, Americans love Obamacare

[boutons_deux]

Among the many delusions guiding the Republican campaign against the Affordable Care Act, surely the most consistent is the idea that the public detests the law and is clamoring for repeal.

Here's the truth: The American public loves Obamacare, with as much as 88% in favor.

How can that be, when polls regularly show a plurality of respondents with an "unfavorable" view of Obamacare? (In September's Kaiser Family Foundation tracking poll (http://bit.ly/19k08v3), the difference was 43% unfavorable to 39% favorable.)

The answer, of course, is that most Americans have no idea what's in the law. In the Kaiser survey, 57% said they didn't have enough information to know how it would affect them. When they're asked how they feel about specific provisions, however, they're almost always thunderously in favor.

Here are the figures, from Kaiser's March 2013 (http://kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/march-2013-tracking-poll/) poll:

Tax credits for small businesses to buy insurance: 88% in favor.

Closing the Medicare drug benefit doughnut hole: 81% in favor.

Extension of dependent coverage to offspring up to age 26: 76% in favor.

Expanding Medicaid: 71% in favor.

Ban on exclusions for preexisting conditions: 66% in favor.

Employer mandate: 57% in favor.

If you agree with those provisions, congratulations: you love Obamacare. Yet when respondents are asked how they feel about "Obamacare," they're against it. :lol

The one provision that always polls negatively is the individual mandate. Unfortunately, the mandate is necessary if you're going to outlaw exclusions for preexisting conditions. Without it, you'd bankrupt every health insurer in the country, because people wouldn't enroll until they're sick.

The only possible conclusion from all this is that the law's opponents have succeeded brilliantly in marketing "Obamacare" as something it's not, and it's defenders have failed miserably at communicating what it is.

But that defines the history of Republican vs. Democratic messaging over the last couple of decades. It's the same stunt that brought us "death panels," or that redefined the estate tax as the "death tax."

The key moment was the 2010 mid-term election, when Democrats ran away from their healthcare achievement as if it were poison, leaving it to their GOP opponents to place their own brand on the law; they should have stood up proudly for their handiwork. The harvest is today's government shutdown, which is predicated on the voters' supposed hatred for a law they actually support.


http://touch.latimes.com/#section/5/article/p2p-77620165/

The Repugs, tea baggers, right-wing hate machine, Fox have been much more aggressive in LYING about ACA than the supporters have been in promoting it.

ACA will be seen as a huge step forward for (Dem) govt involvement to solve horrible problems that the "free market" created and refused to address.

[boutons_deux]

Beginning of the end for major health insurers

Obamacare will unleash innovation in insurance market, expose irrelevance of the big firms

As I’ve noted previously, my former CEO at Cigna said at a leadership retreat that what kept him up at night was the fear that big health insurance corporations might someday be viewed as unnecessary middlemen, that their “value proposition” would come under scrutiny and found to be wanting. That insurance companies would, to use his term, be disintermediated.
That day has arrived.

One of the things apparent right off the bat is that some of the best deals will be offered by nonprofit health insurers, including the brand new co-op plans that will be available in about half the states.

These plans will be lean and mean. They won’t have the enormous overhead costs of the big for-profit insurance corporations that I used to work for, and they won't have to charge extra for coverage just to satisfy the profit demands of shareholders. They won’t have shareholders.

If you’re wondering why Aetna, Cigna, Humana and UnitedHealth Group, four of the biggest for-profits, are not planning to participate in many of the marketplaces, it’s because they know they cannot be competitive and still satisfy

Before long both Wall Street and Main Street will catch on to the idea that the big for-profits are bloated Goliaths that can and will be taken down by the new Davids of the insurance world. The value proposition held out by the bigs for years — that their armies of underwriters, marketers and “medical management” specialists are essential — will be blown to smithereens.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/09/30/13474/beginning-end-major-health-insurers?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=watchdog&utm_medium=publici-email

[dbestpro]

Puffy stats aside, the simple fact that Americans do not want to spend more money for something that will not meet what they expect will no doubt make this one of the most hated programs ever instituted by the government once it is fully instituted.

The problem is not universal healthcare. The problem is we never got around to healthcare reform, so that the way we practice medicine could be more affordable once universal healthcare is initiated. Unfortunately, the ego rush to drive something through before it is ready will cause it to collapse and may take another 50 years before it is looked at, again.

The republicans, unknowingly may save universal healthcare, while the democrats in their rush to get their product to market will ultimately be the ones who destroy it.

[TSA]

88% in favor
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[boutons_deux]

88% in favor
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Tax credits for small businesses to buy insurance: 88% in favor.

[hitmanyr2k]

Puffy stats aside, the simple fact that Americans do not want to spend more money for something that will not meet what they expect will no doubt make this one of the most hated programs ever instituted by the government once it is fully instituted.

The problem is not universal healthcare. The problem is we never got around to healthcare reform, so that the way we practice medicine could be more affordable once universal healthcare is initiated. Unfortunately, the ego rush to drive something through before it is ready will cause it to collapse and may take another 50 years before it is looked at, again.

The republicans, unknowingly may save universal healthcare, while the democrats in their rush to get their product to market will ultimately be the ones who destroy it.

What the fuck are you smokin? :lol These are the same idiots that scream "socialism" and "death panels" every time universal healthcare is brought up. The main reason we can't ever get a reasonable healthcare debate in this country is because of jackass Republicans and their dullard supporters. They were against that shit from Day 1.

[TSA]

Tax credits for small businesses to buy insurance: 88% in favor.


That is one small aspect of Obamacare yet your bullshit article says the American public is 88% in favor as a whole.

The article states:
Here's the truth: The American public loves Obamacare, with as much as 88% in favor.


88% in favor
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[Wild Cobra]

Sure, take the good parts and ask about them only....

What a sham.

[boutons_deux]

Sure, take the good parts and ask about them only....

What a sham.

the individual mandate was not rated highly in the poll

[Th'Pusher]

Puffy stats aside, the simple fact that Americans do not want to spend more money for something that will not meet what they expect will no doubt make this one of the most hated programs ever instituted by the government once it is fully instituted.

The problem is not universal healthcare. The problem is we never got around to healthcare reform, so that the way we practice medicine could be more affordable once universal healthcare is initiated. Unfortunately, the ego rush to drive something through before it is ready will cause it to collapse and may take another 50 years before it is looked at, again.

The republicans, unknowingly may save universal healthcare, while the democrats in their rush to get their product to market will ultimately be the ones who destroy it.

what types of reforms should have been put into place to reduce the cost of healthcare?

[angrydude]

I love the fact that if I bought health insurance I'm going to basically have another car payment every month! Love that law. Love that even with that extra car payment I'll still have to pay a shitload of out of pocket expenses. YES! I also love the fact that in a few years I'll be taxed 2 % of my income because I don't have health insurance. YEA! Love that law some more.

Thank you Obama for making me poorer! Love ya!

[TSA]

I'm curious to see how many doctors will head to the black market and deal in cash only.

[Th'Pusher]

I'm curious to see how many doctors will head to the black market and deal in cash only.
The answer is 14.

[TSA]

How long until the government says no cash payments for medical?

[Chief Brody]

This one doesn't.

[Th'Pusher]

How long until the government says no cash payments for medical?
137 years.

[TSA]

137 years.how many degrees in the shade?

[ChumpDumper]

Sure, take the good parts and ask about them only....

What a sham.The writer did not compose the poll.

What are the bad parts, according to you?

[DMX7]

Americans at their best!

sx2scvIFGjE

[AntiChrist]

Millennials being forced to subsidize baby boomers health care? What's not to love?

Good thing most millennials are loyal Obamabots, or they'd be pissed.

[Rogue]

the truth is that most americans love to live an lazy life in an irresponsible way, abusing their resources until running out their credit line, which's why the country careened into such an economic mess of shit in the first place. Libetards have done nothing to fix the problems, but instead, their efforts have all ended up making things worse, much worse.

[AntiChrist]

Americans at their best!

sx2scvIFGjE


Californians at their best.

[Rogue]

Libertards approval rates always goes in reverse proposition to the average educational level of this nation's population, imho.

[DMX7]

Californians at their best.

If you think the answers to those questions would have been any different in Texas, Mississippi, or South Carolina, etc..., then you're kidding yourself.

[SA210]

:lmao:rollin:rollin



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoSnqofelsQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVyF2WdyzsE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AOJBiklP1Q

[Trainwreck2100]

I'm curious to see how many doctors will head to the black market and deal in cash only.

can't you already deal with them in a cash only basis?

[ElNono]

can't you already deal with them in a cash only basis?

I'm gonna propose we call this new method of payment 'out of pocket'. I know, sounds kinda weird, but I think it will catch on, tbh

[boutons_deux]

Millennials being forced to subsidize baby boomers health care? What's not to love?

Good thing most millennials are loyal Obamabots, or they'd be pissed.

that's how all insurance works, the 80/20 rule, approximately, spreading the risk and claims costs. 80% with no or tiny claims finance the 20% with enormous claims.

the bigger the pool the cheaper the insurance. a mandatory (premium deducted from all income) govt/public insurance program would have a pool of 150m+ premium payers. It would also have the lowest overheads (like SS) rather than hyper-complicated kludge all insurance is now.

[Nbadan]

I'm gonna propose we call this new method of payment 'out of pocket'. I know, sounds kinda weird, but I think it will catch on, tbh

:lol