*** Official D.Rose return thread, tbh ***

[AchillesHeel]

Nigga is expected to play 12-24 minutes against the Pacers on Oct 5th, 7PM ET. How good do you think the nigga will be this season?

There really are only 2 real options here:
A) Performs better than pre-injury like Adrian Peterson, everyone jumps on his dick
B) He takes the RGIII route, comes out totally rusty and uncomfortable with his play, doesn't play as agressive as he should, becomes rather irrelevant.

[fevertrees]

C. Doesn't play

[AchillesHeel]

2 hrs to go

[AchillesHeel]

Rose got his 1st bucket

[jeebus]

in before his knee explodes

[lefty]

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/283969_634445969917264_397546524_n.jpg

[lefty]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NbyOgLteGnA/UaqzMi1-zYI/AAAAAAAAAKw/m7n_t2_zmZs/s1600/Z+Rose+Bench.png

[AchillesHeel]

lol Rose 1 - 4

Thibs will probably play him for 40 mins though

[DPG21920]

He looks physically fine. Rusty, but physically stable.

[jeebus]

lol Rose 1 - 4

Thibs will probably play him for 40 mins though
:cry "he's a great fuckin coach!" :cry

[AchillesHeel]

lol rose b2b turnovers in 10 secs, looks totally off, tbh.

It's just pre-season, but cmon son!

[AchillesHeel]

This game is so fking boring, FT shooting fest and fans are booing every 5 seconds :lol

[AchillesHeel]

crofl, 3rd TO already and missed 2 FTs in a row

[AchillesHeel]

oh shit, nigga woke up

[racm]

He looks physically fine. Rusty, but physically stable.

Yeah, he looks like he's just as explosive. Needs to find rhythm and re-establish chemistry with his teammates though.

[AchillesHeel]

One thing I notice, Rose still hasn't developed a solid J, he always passes it up on the perimeter and he tries to bulldoze inside, no wonder he's always injured, tbh.

[AchillesHeel]

Paul George showing why he's one of the best in the league.

[racm]

David West's jumper is money.

[racm]

Jimmy Butler with 12 FTAs (!)

[AchillesHeel]

Bulls - Pacers feels like an actual regular season game, they're not holding it back

[AchillesHeel]

Wonder if Thibs will throw Rose out there in the 4th...

[racm]

Bulls - Pacers feels like an actual regular season game, they're not holding it back

Both teams are shooting <40% too, both will be top 5 defenses easily IMO

[AchillesHeel]

Granger is playing like ass though, Pacers will need him playing well in the playoffs if they want to beat Miami, they're pretty deep with the addition of Scola off the bench.

[ace3g]

lol

[AchillesHeel]

wow

[AchillesHeel]

horrible basketball by the Pacers 2nd unit. Missing wide open 3s, dunks, passing to the rafters...

[racm]

horrible basketball by the Pacers 2nd unit. Missing wide open 3s, dunks, passing to the rafters...

thought it was overrated IMO

Bulls' bench mob looking great though. Gibson + 4 shooters in Hinrich/Snell/Dunleavy/Murphy.

[AchillesHeel]

thought it was overrated IMO

Bulls' bench mob looking great though. Gibson + 4 shooters in Hinrich/Snell/Dunleavy/Murphy.


Pacers problem has been finishing at the rim and making wide open 3s, just frustrates watching guys miss open looks, the same ish was going on in the playoffs against the Heat... It's only preseason but it's still basketball, you're supposed to convert open layups and dunks.


Impressed by the Bulls 2nd unit, Taj has been great so far. Hopefully we'll see Noah play soon.

[ace3g]

Still wondering why Pacers didn't bring in a pure shooter.

[AchillesHeel]

PG fouled out while only playing 18 minutes :lol

[racm]

Pacers problem has been finishing at the rim and making wide open 3s, just frustrates watching guys miss open looks, the same ish was going on in the playoffs against the Heat... It's only preseason but it's still basketball, you're supposed to convert open layups and dunks.


Impressed by the Bulls 2nd unit, Taj has been great so far. Hopefully we'll see Noah play soon.

Yeah, I kinda see the Bulls playing a 10 man rotation with Noah returning.

Rose/Hinrich
Butler/Snell
Deng/Dunleavy
Boozer/Gibson
Noah/Mohammed

Solid group.


Still wondering why Pacers didn't bring in a pure shooter.

Copeland?

[AchillesHeel]

Taj 18 points 12 reb 2 blk 9-11 from the field

[ElNono]

lol Pacers, back to 3rd in the East

[racm]

Taj 18 points 12 reb 2 blk 9-11 from the field

I think he's got a good chance of winning Sixth Man of the Year if he keeps it up. Too bad they usually give it to chuckers.

[Killakobe81]

Welcome back Drose I know he has many haters here but I admire his game. Hope he regains his explosion.

[lefty]

You admire his ballhogging ?

[Rogue]

He admires Rose for his teamwork imho. Just like I said, Rose is a much better team player than Kobe has ever been, even when it comes to raping a bitch.

[lefty]

Ballhog gor ballhog, I would rather have Kobe TBH

[spurraider21]

Ballhog gor ballhog, I would rather have Kobe TBH
Kobe is the GOAT volume scorer tbh, so i'd take him over a volume scorer like Rose anyday

[lefty]

Kobe is the GOAT volume scorer tbh, so i'd take him over a volume scorer like Rose anyday

He is the GOAT rapist too

[spurraider21]

He is the GOAT rapist too
what about that ogre that raped MJ tbh

[RD2191]

He is the GOAT rapist too
:lmao

[mystargtr34]

Rose was and I hope still is a top 3 player to watch in terms of wow factor.. sure he's an SAT cheatier and gang banger but it would be a huge loss to basketball fans if his career is effected by the injury.

[lefty]

but it would be a huge loss to basketball fans if his career is effected by the injury.
TBH I didnt notice anything different last season

[Killakobe81]

Rose hate still strong I see

[AchillesHeel]

He admires Rose for his teamwork imho. Just like I said, Rose is a much better team player than Kobe has ever been, even when it comes to raping a bitch.

I don't know, Rose isn't a better passer than Kirby. Kirby has better court vision and in the 2nd half of the season last year, Kirby was averaging like 25 ppg 7 reb 7.5 ast

I wasn't that impressed with rose, he got some easy baskets, didn't make or take any decent jump shots, still turns the ball over and he's rusty as hell in terms of team chemistry.

Rose will be a decent player (given he doesn't get injured again) this year, but people overrate his impact on the court. He wins games and he dominates other PGs with his speed and the ability to drive alone, but he needs to slow it down like MJ did after his foot injury and he needs to improve his shooting.

Saw some clip from China, where Rose shot 3s in some "contest", and he made like 2 out of 15... Rose looks good until he plays a real defensive team like Indy or Miami, they take away the lanes and they'll force him to shoot, unless he improves in that area he will win 0 championships.

[TDMVPDPOY]

he wouldve been useful against the heat last season the playoffs who look very vunerable for an upset...

fck him anyway

[TE]

lol Pacers, back to 3rd in the East
Regular season, yeah. By the time the playoffs start they'll get back to 2nd because half of the Bulls roster will be inevitably depleted.

[Killakobe81]

Fair points. But dude is young and talented I hope he continues to develop the rest if his game I don't get all the hate. As hoop fans we benefit by having talent Like DRose improve and maximize their talents.

[Killakobe81]

Fair points, Achilles.his game needs work. Parker developed his Rose can too ...dude is young and talented I hope he continues to develop the rest if his game I don't get all the hate. As hoop fans we benefit by having talent Like DRose improve and maximize their talents.

[AchillesHeel]

I don't think people really hate D.Rose personally, they hate the fans who hype his shit up like he's the best player in basketball, or even top 5. He's a stud and a top 3 or top 5 PG in the league depending on the situation, but he really needs to improve his shot, it should be a priority. Lebron did that, and he turned into the best player in the league and won back to back titles. MJ perfected his shot, added range to his game and won 6 rings.

That's what separates an athletic stud PG from an all-time great PG, the athletic stud is fun to watch and he has tons of potential(until people realize he's pushing 30 and hasn't improved) whereas an all-time great PG can shoot, defend(at least at an above-average defender and not a liability), pass and handle the ball and what not.

His 3pt% is actually not that bad, it's average, chucker-esque, but in his last season he shot 35,7% on jump shots, while let's say Kirby shot 39,4%, CP3 shot 44,3%.

D.Rose has to have a mid-range game, he's already 25 years old and he needs to slow down a little before he has another big foot injury.

[Killakobe81]

I don't think people really hate D.Rose personally, they hate the fans who hype his shit up like he's the best player in basketball, or even top 5. He's a stud and a top 3 or top 5 PG in the league depending on the situation, but he really needs to improve his shot, it should be a priority. Lebron did that, and he turned into the best player in the league and won back to back titles. MJ perfected his shot, added range to his game and won 6 rings.

That's what separates an athletic stud PG from an all-time great PG, the athletic stud is fun to watch and he has tons of potential(until people realize he's pushing 30 and hasn't improved) whereas an all-time great PG can shoot, defend(at least at an above-average defender and not a liability), pass and handle the ball and what not.

His 3pt% is actually not that bad, it's average, chucker-esque, but in his last season he shot 35,7% on jump shots, while let's say Kirby shot 39,4%, CP3 shot 44,3%.

D.Rose has to have a mid-range game, he's already 25 years old and he needs to slow down a little before he has another big foot injury.

agree.with most of this but I don't get why people were so bent out of shape over Rose winning MVP if MJ could be robbed of the award no big deal Rose stole one of LeBron's award has been horseshit since Malone stole Jordan's tbh ...
Kid plays hard and is fearless driving (pre injury) sure he needs to improve his jumper like James has done. But to say he is not hated is not true. I was in Chicago thus summer and even Bulls fans were questioning his toughness.

[lefty]

I think the Bulls have played better without Rose

The ball movemment is wayyyy better

Actually, Rose playing Miami would benefit the Heat simce the ball spends a lot of time in Rose's hands, and defensively Lebron plays Rose effectively

Lebron doesnt have that luxury when Chicago is moving the ball

[AchillesHeel]

Bulls with Rose - lost 1-4 against the Heat in the ECF 2011
Bulls without Rose - lost 1-4 against the Heat in the ESF

Rose is a great regular season PG as his team wins more games with him in the line-up, but his team still won't win a championship with Heat/Pacers being there to stop the Bulls from even reaching the Finals.

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xQtcMb2Qks

[ace3g]

Player
Game



Min
FGM-A
FTM-A
3PM-A
Off
Reb
Def
Reb
Tot
Reb
Asst
Stl
Blk
TO
PF
Pts


Carlos Boozer (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/carlos-boozer/105599), F/C
26
7-12
2-2
0-0
2
2
4
2
0
0
3
3
16


Luol Deng (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/luol-deng/209347), SF
25
3-8
6-8
1-2
0
3
3
2
1
2
1
2
13


Nazr Mohammed (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/nazr-mohammed/71110), C
15
0-0
2-2
0-0
2
4
6
0
0
3
2
1
2


Jimmy Butler (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/jimmy-butler/1287451), G/F
26
3-7
3-4
0-1
1
2
3
1
3
0
2
1
9


Derrick Rose (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/derrick-rose/551523), PG
23
3-8
6-10
1-1
2
2
4
3
3
0
1
1
13

[Brazil]

agree.with most of this but I don't get why people were so bent out of shape over Rose winning MVP if MJ could be robbed of the award no big deal Rose stole one of LeBron's award has been horseshit since Malone stole Jordan's tbh ...
Kid plays hard and is fearless driving (pre injury) sure he needs to improve his jumper like James has done. But to say he is not hated is not true. I was in Chicago thus summer and even Bulls fans were questioning his toughness.

Bulls fans are right to question his toughness, dude is 25 y/o and quit on his team mates and bulls fans

[ace3g]

Michael Lee @MrMichaelLee
(http://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee)Bummer in Brazil. Game has lost some star power: Derrick Rose is out with left knee soreness. Joakim Noah also out. #wizards (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23wizards) #NBAGlobalGames (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23NBAGlobalGames)

[RD2191]

Lol, D Rose will never be the same.

[jeebus]

lol what a gigantic pussy

[Calispursfan11]

Tbh I Rose is decent even though I am not a fan because the Heat need some competition other than Indiana. I personally think the Nets will be good but throwing a bunch of talented players together has been known not to work out at least in season one. Add to that the fact that Deron has been getting progressively worse and all the good players they added are older than dirt and the Niets aren't really too fearsome. So hopefully Rose's return is legit so it might slow the Heat tbh.

[thunderup]

Not a Rose fan but its the preseason. Who cares about playing in front of a third world country crowd?

[Rogue]

I think if the revamped nets can't post a threat to the Heat, nor can the Bulls. I doubt Rose will come back the same player he was pre-injury. Dude's been out of game for more than one year and a half, and the damage of the injury has extended far beyond his knee imho. It eroded his mind and made him a wimp.

[Venti Quattro]

Came back too soon, tbh :lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

do i get a refund of my crazy lights, tbh? :cry

[jeebus]

in before his knee explodes
whew

[Rogue]

Told you guys he wasn't yet mentally ready to play again. Dude needs to gang bang more bitches to gain enough confidence for him to really suit up again imho

[Venti Quattro]

Told you guys he wasn't yet mentally ready to play again. Dude needs to gang bang more bitches to gain enough confidence for him to really suit up again imho

:lmao Rogue was right

:lol Derrick Rose
:lol gangbanger
:lol negro knees

[Infinite_limit]

He'll be back

[Robz4000]

:lmao 6 month countdown