2013-2014 Heisman Watch

[The Reckoning]

i figured this is a good point in the season where heisman rankings start to become more solidified. as of now according to ESPN, Oregon's Mariota is an overwhelming favorite followed by Tajh Boyd and Manziel. here's the link that tracks the useless, cursed award's status.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/heisman13/

Mariota has yet to throw an interception. Manziel has 5.

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UPDATED TOP 5

1. Mariota
2. Manziel
3. Boyd
4. Winston
5. Bridgewater

[ThePop]

Johnny is playing better than last year but actually has competition this year.

[DesignatedT]

It's probably Mariota's to lose. Only way Johnny gets it is if A&M some how gets into the SECCG.

[The Reckoning]

looks like it's between mariota and jameis now

[jeebus]

:lmao poor inbred midget

[The Reckoning]

http://youtu.be/FSXXJ8X_mwM

[DMX7]

You may cross Johnny F. off the list.

[The Reckoning]

johnny has actually gone up one in the rankings since taj blew it


i think it all depends on his injury

[The Reckoning]

i also don't understand why mike evans isn't getting some love. he clearly makes manziel look much better.

[Sisk]

i also don't understand why mike evans isn't getting some love. he clearly makes manziel look much better.


If he doesn't win the Biletnikoff they might as well quit giving that award out. He definitely bails out Johnny frequently.

[Obstructed_View]

Manziel likely won last year because people expecting the Aggies to be near the bottom of the SEC turned out to be a deciding factor. Since they can't top last year's record, people don't notice how well he's playing. There's also a bias because voters won't want to give him back to back trophies.

[Holden_Caulfield]

carr should be ahead of bridgewater tbh

[DesignatedT]

Manziel is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mariota.

It isn't even close. Mariota doesn't touch Johnny on the football field. You're retarded if you think he does.

[Sisk]

Manziel is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mariota.

It isn't even close. Mariota doesn't touch Johnny on the football field. You're retarded if you think he does.

Cosigned.

[DesignatedT]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9945624&ex_cid=espnapi_public

[symple19]

Johnny should win it again, but Jameis will probably end up with the trophy... Unfortunately

[The Gemini Method]

Johnny should win it again, but Jameis will probably end up with the trophy... Unfortunately
Don't know if its unfortunate--the kid is playing pretty well (Miami game could be an issue...) I think the real thing holding back Manziel from making it two in a row is how he has acted prior to the beginning of the season. I mean, yeah, the play should be first in selecting a Heisman but let's be realistic here; the negative publicity is probably stuck in the minds of those whom vote on the honor.

[Sisk]

Don't know if its unfortunate--the kid is playing pretty well (Miami game could be an issue...) I think the real thing holding back Manziel from making it two in a row is how he has acted prior to the beginning of the season. I mean, yeah, the play should be first in selecting a Heisman but let's be realistic here; the negative publicity is probably stuck in the minds of those whom vote on the honor.

Him already winning it is what is holding him back the most IMO.

[AFBlue]

Manziel has been great, but he doesn't have the signature win this year. Winston is the new shiny thing, and he already had his signature win.

[Sisk]

Manziel has been great, but he doesn't have the signature win this year. Winston is the new shiny thing, and he already had his signature win.

LSU beats Bama and we beat LSU. Or Missouri wins out until we play them. We must win out for him to have a shot though.

[DesignatedT]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY-loSqCQAA-5JZ.jpg:medium

[LakerHater]

If he had FSU's D...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY-qrN4CYAAiDL0.jpg:large

[Vito Corleone]

Winston has him in the most important category of all. The loss column.

[LakerHater]

Uh Oh, now that Winston is bein investigated for a FELONY sexual assult is it Manziel's to lose!?!?

[DesignatedT]

Uh Oh, now that Winston is bein investigated for a FELONY sexual assult is it Manziel's to lose!?!?

Well see how much airtime this gets....

[LakerHater]

Well see how much airtime this gets....

ESPiN jus barely reported it!

[LakerHater]

Manziel's stats vs Winston's, adjusted for playing time


By Matt Knipe

Most of my family grew up in Florida and are huge Florida State fans (despite only my dad attending the university). I grew up loving Florida State before becoming an Aggie. I've been rooting for the Noles this year, but I believe that hands down Johnny deserves the Heisman again.
Any time I get into that argument with family and friends, who are FSU fans, they say that Manziel's stats only appear to be better because he's had so much more playing time. I know FSU has dominated the majority of their opponents and Winston has sat out his fair share of quarters, but I thought their amount of playing time was closer than they thought. Nonetheless, this was an interesting point and I decided it was worth looking into.
There are many ways to look at this. You could compare the overall stats by each quarterback to time of possession, number of drives, number of quarters played, etc. But due to the diferring styles of offenses, I figured the best approach would be to go by number of quarters played. So I dove into the play-by-plays for each game to determine exactly when each quarterback left the game and turned the ball over to their respective backup. I rounded each quarter to the nearest tenth and here are the results:
Quarters Played by Johnny "Football" Manziel:
· Rice - 2
· Sam Houston - 2.6
· Alabama - 4
· SMU - 2.2
· Arkansas - 4
· Ole Miss - 4
· Auburn - 4
· Vanderbilt - 2.6
· UTEP - 2.5
· Mississippi State - 4
Total - 31.9
Quarters Played by "Famous" Jameis Winston:
· Pittsburgh - 3.4
· Nevada - 2.7
· Bethune-Cookman - 2.1
· Boston College - 4
· Maryland - 3
· Clemson - 4
· NC State - 2.1
· Miami - 4
· Wake Forest - 2.2
· Syracuse - 2
Total - 29.5
Now I wanted to attempt to "normalize" the overall stats for each Heisman contender with this information. Below are the actual overall stats:
Johnny Manziel
· Total yards - 3924
· Passing yards - 3313
· Rushing yards - 611
· Total touchdowns - 39
· Passing touchdowns - 31
· Rushing touchdowns – 8
Jameis Winston
· Total yards - 3083
· Passing yards - 2938
· Rushing yards - 145
· Total touchdowns - 31
· Passing touchdowns - 28
· Rushing touchdowns - 3
In an attempt to make these stats more fair and less inflated in favor of the player with more playing time, I took the following approach:
· Divide each category by the number of total quarters to get an average per quarter. For instance, divide total yards by Johnny (3924) by the number of total quarters played (31.9) to get the average total yards per quarter (123).
· Multiply that average by 40. 40 quarters is the number of quarters that would have been played by each quarterback had they stayed in the entire game for all 10 of their games.
Below are the "normalized" overall stats for each player with this approach:
Johnny Manziel
· Total yards - 4920
· Passing yards - 4154
· Rushing yards - 766
· Total touchdowns - 49
· Passing touchdowns - 39
· Rushing touchdowns - 10
Jameis Winston
· Total yards - 4180
· Passing yards - 3984
· Rushing yards - 197
· Total touchdowns - 42
· Passing touchdowns - 38
· Rushing touchdowns - 4

Although the difference between these numbers isn't quite as drastic as the actual stats, there is still a significant difference in how much better Johnny's stats are than Winston's. This should help put the argument to rest that Johnny's stats only appear to be better due to more playing time. Unfortunately, if any of your annoying Baylor friends try to make this argument, you'll just have to point out they still play in the Big 12.

[pgardn]

John the football.

He is the best player in college football. He may be the best player ever in college football.
No other player I have seen can do what this distasteful person has done. He is the best.

cant wait to see how he handles the pros. He has been fun to watch in college.

[Michael Jordan.]

John the football.

He is the best player in college football. He may be the best player ever in college football.
No other player I have seen can do what this distasteful person has done. He is the best.

cant wait to see how he handles the pros. He has been fun to watch in college.
No

[benefactor]

He may be the best player ever in college football.

:lol...he's not even the best QB ever, much less the best player.

[Vito Corleone]

John the football.

He is the best player in college football. He may be the best player ever in college football.
No other player I have seen can do what this distasteful person has done. He is the best.

cant wait to see how he handles the pros. He has been fun to watch in college.

He is a great player, and I agree he is the best player in college football right now, but RGIII, Vince Young, Michael Vick, and Tommie Frazier were all more dominate. Then you look at guys that play other positions like Ricky Williams, Bo Jackson, Reggie Bush, Ndamukong Suh, Cornelius Bennett, Deon Saunders, and the best defensive player I ever witnessed was Leroy Selmon.

IMO the greatest college player I ever witnessed was Barry Saunders.

Now I have no problem mentioning Manziel with those guys, he is in their class, but he isn't the head of that class.

[Clipper Nation]

He may be the best player ever in college football.
:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

:lol...he's not even the best QB ever, much less the best player.
Truth bombs, tbh.... at the college level, I'd have trouble ranking Johnny Inbred over the majority of guys like Vince, Frazier, Tebow, Flutie, Cum Newton, Vick, Crouch, Staubach, Kellen Moore, Elway, Luck, RG3, etc....

[Vito Corleone]

I'd rank Manziel above Ty Dietmer, Colt McCoy based on his ability to stay healthy with some of the shots he has taken. I love Colt and think as a college QB he was one of the best, but he couldn't take a hit. Manziel can. He is as good a QB as RGIII and Vick in his ability to throw, but not nearly as fast. He slightly below Vince and Frazier when it comes to dominance but not quite as good.

He is no where near the passer as Elway, Payton Manning or even Luck. He is head and shoulders better than guys like Andre Ware, Matthew Stafford, Tim Tiebow, and Matt Leinart.

I have said this before, but he reminds me of Joe Montana, in size, elusiveness, and passing ability. Time will tell if he is like Joe on the NFL level, but he sure looks the part on the college level.

[Phillip]

I have said this before, but he reminds me of Joe Montana, in size, elusiveness, and passing ability. Time will tell if he is like Joe on the NFL level, but he sure looks the part on the college level.
:lmao is this a joke?

Manziel is average at best as a pocket passer at the college level.

[Sisk]

Manziel > RGIII

[Sisk]

Easily

[DesignatedT]

Manziel is a great passer. People who say otherwise are just showing they don't watch the games. Especially those saying his first instinct is to bail out of the pocket. Couldn't be further from the truth, A&M fans have been begging him to run the ball more this season because it's so effective but he much rather stay in and make a throw.l

Manziell's biggest weakness (and pretty much only one) is decision making, which is obviously correctable.

[Blake]

Winston has him in the most important category of all. The loss column.

it's the losses vs Alabama and Auburn.

Last year the win over Bama was what got him the trophy.

[DesignatedT]

If Manziel plays well and wins this weekend it could definitely make the race interesting. Right now it's Winston's to lose (Assuming they win out and he doesn't get charged with a felony)

[Phillip]

Manziel is a great passer. People who say otherwise are just showing they don't watch the games. Especially those saying his first instinct is to bail out of the pocket. Couldn't be further from the truth, A&M fans have been begging him to run the ball more this season because it's so effective but he much rather stay in and make a throw.l

Manziell's biggest weakness (and pretty much only one) is decision making, which is obviously correctable.

decision making is arguably the most important aspect to being a pocket passer

and his decision making is quite poor actually, only he gets bailed out by a monster receiver most of the time

0% chance he will be anything special in the NFL

[DesignatedT]

Great take. Thanks for contributing.

[pgardn]

Truth bombs, tbh.... at the college level, I'd have trouble ranking Johnny Inbred over the majority of guys like Vince, Frazier, Tebow, Flutie, Cum Newton, Vick, Crouch, Staubach, Kellen Moore, Elway, Luck, RG3, etc....

No Fckn way.

Staubach. So you watched him? In college? Give me a break. Texas beat Roger 28-0. Manziel in college is a better combination runner/passer than any of the above including Vince. No way does Vince locate a target like JF after buying time. Just no way. RG3 is the only guy I would consider.

As far as the mentioning of Barry Sanders... He was a better pro than a college player imo. I know he had some gaudy stats, but he made tacklers look worse in the pros.

[Michael Jordan.]

No Fckn way.

Staubach. So you watched him? In college? Give me a break. Texas beat Roger 28-0. Manziel in college is a better combination runner/passer than any of the above including Vince. No way does Vince locate a target like JF after buying time. Just no way. RG3 is the only guy I would consider.

As far as the mentioning of Barry Sanders... He was a better pro than a college player imo. I know he had some gaudy stats, but he made tacklers look worse in the pros.
:lmao all Manziel does is run around in the backfield like a chicken with its head cut off and throws up prayers to his receivers. Vince dominated complete games.

[pgardn]

:lmao all Manziel does is run around in the backfield like a chicken with its head cut off and throws up prayers to his receivers. Vince dominated complete games.

He runs around and finds open guys. It works well in their offense in college. Chickens are very difficult to catch btw. So he is a focused chicken. How he does in the pros is a diff. beast.

We got Aggie haters who refuse to see such a resourceful player.

[DesignatedT]

We got Aggie haters who refuse to see such a resourceful player.


That's all it is.

[benefactor]

No Fckn way.

Staubach. So you watched him? In college? Give me a break. Texas beat Roger 28-0. Manziel in college is a better combination runner/passer than any of the above including Vince. No way does Vince locate a target like JF after buying time. Just no way. RG3 is the only guy I would consider.

As far as the mentioning of Barry Sanders... He was a better pro than a college player imo. I know he had some gaudy stats, but he made tacklers look worse in the pros.
As a Longhorns fan, you seem to be forgetting just how good Vince was in that championship season. I would say that Manziel is likely the more accurate passer, but Vince was a better open field runner and college player overall. Running the table with no let downs then beating one of the best college teams even on what is basically their home field is the stuff of legend.

Manziel is a very good player though and definitely one of the best to ever do it at the college level.

[Sisk]

As a Longhorns fan, you seem to be forgetting just how good Vince was in that championship season. I would say that Manziel is likely the more accurate passer, but Vince was a better open field runner and college player overall. Running the table with no let downs then beating one of the best college teams even on what is basically their home field is the stuff of legend.

Manziel is a very good player though and definitely one of the best to ever do it at the college level.

Did we lose either game because of Manziel?

[Phillip]

:lmao all Manziel does is run around in the backfield like a chicken with its head cut off and throws up prayers to his receivers. Vince dominated complete games.

this. VY was a much more patient and composed passer than JFF is. Vince always looked completely in control of his games and his team. Johnny is a master at creating plays out of nothing, about as good as you will ever see, but he doesn't seem nearly as controlled as Vince was. If you replace Vince with Johnny, Texas gets completely raped by USC in 2005.

[Vito Corleone]

No Fckn way.

Staubach. So you watched him? In college? Give me a break. Texas beat Roger 28-0. Manziel in college is a better combination runner/passer than any of the above including Vince. No way does Vince locate a target like JF after buying time. Just no way. RG3 is the only guy I would consider.

As far as the mentioning of Barry Sanders... He was a better pro than a college player imo. I know he had some gaudy stats, but he made tacklers look worse in the pros.

Post less you will look smarter.

I watched almost every game Barry played in in 1989, I've never seen a runningback do anything close to what Barry did, take that back, the one guy who looked that good was a high school kid named Johnny Bailey when he played for Jack Yates in the mid-80's. Barry made everyone he played against look like children.

[Sisk]

this. VY was a much more patient and composed passer than JFF is. Vince always looked completely in control of his games and his team. Johnny is a master at creating plays out of nothing, about as good as you will ever see, but he doesn't seem nearly as controlled as Vince was. If you replace Vince with Johnny, Texas gets completely raped by USC in 2005.

How do you quantify composed?

[Phillip]

How do you quantify composed?

Do you truly believe Johnny is a better pocket passer in college than Vince was?

[Sisk]

Do you truly believe Johnny is a better pocket passer in college than Vince was?

Absolutely. The statistics overwhelmingly agree with me.

[Vito Corleone]

Absolutely. The statistics overwhelmingly agree with me.

Vince never needed to attempt many passes so the stats aren't really very telling. Texas was usually in control by half time and Vince was usually pulled well before the 4th Quarter. Manziel is averaging about 40-50 attempts per game, Vince averaged about 25-30 per game.

[The Reckoning]

vince was a man amongst men. i saw him in the big xii championship when they destroyed colorado by 70 something points. he was sitting on the bench drinking gatorade by halftime.

[Sisk]

Johnny hasn't sat a large number of quarters? :lol

[Phillip]

Johnny hasn't sat a large number of quarters? :lol

dont be stupid

[Michael Jordan.]

Christ Aggy is dumb.

[Sisk]

dont be stupid

Take your own advice. Johnny has sat through many quarters this year.

[Phillip]

Take your own advice. Johnny has sat through many quarters this year.

No one said he didn't.

But compare VYs big season, to JFF's year last season, and its clear that VY sat considerably more by the fact that there were over 120 less plays completed in which he either passed or ran.

[Sisk]

No one said he didn't.

But compare VYs big season, to JFF's year last season, and its clear that VY sat considerably more by the fact that there were over 120 less plays completed in which he either passed or ran.

Not to mention A&M runs one of the fastest pace offenses in the nation...

[pgardn]

As a Longhorns fan, you seem to be forgetting just how good Vince was in that championship season. I would say that Manziel is likely the more accurate passer, but Vince was a better open field runner and college player overall. Running the table with no let downs then beating one of the best college teams even on what is basically their home field is the stuff of legend.

Manziel is a very good player though and definitely one of the best to ever do it at the college level.

Vince was a God in that game and the Kansas game when it counted. But for gosh sakes Manziel in his first year came in and was fabulous. And he is better this year. I love football. Manziel is absolutely unique.

He is the Ali of college football. He thumbs his nose at all the good guy protocol and then backs it up on the field. The Aggies must play full out because their D stinks. He is the most valuable player in college football. Twice. If he does not win the Heisman it will be because of his off field antics in the summer and or because he has already won it.The best up to this point.

What I find so ironic is that if he played for Texas, the Aggies would despise him like no other. He is so NOT Aggie... It's a joy to see.

[pgardn]

Post less you will look smarter.

I watched almost every game Barry played in in 1989, I've never seen a runningback do anything close to what Barry did, take that back, the one guy who looked that good was a high school kid named Johnny Bailey when he played for Jack Yates in the mid-80's. Barry made everyone he played against look like children.

Making pros look like children is a lot more impressive than making slow college DB's look like fools.

You are the LAST person on this board who needs to judge others posts.

[Sisk]

What I find so ironic is that if he played for Texas, the Aggies would despise him like no other. He is so NOT Aggie... It's a joy to see.

Of course we would hate him. I don't wish anything but bad for the horns.

He is exactly what I've always wanted our program to have and has been needing for years. We needed a guy to come in and have an attitude and all out confidence... but to get a guy like Johnny is more than anyone could have hoped for.

[Phillip]

Not to mention A&M runs one of the fastest pace offenses in the nation...

Oh okay. I'm sure that is 100% the reason why. Absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Texas was completely dominating every team they played that season and was generally blowing teams out by the 3rd quarter, if not halftime. :dizzy

Geez what's with the butthurt by you? oh, nvm lol aggy

[Sisk]

Oh okay. I'm sure that is 100% the reason why. Absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Texas was completely dominating every team they played that season and was generally blowing teams out by the 3rd quarter, if not halftime. :dizzy

Geez what's with the butthurt by you? oh, nvm lol aggy

Facts = butthurt. Got it.

[DesignatedT]

What I find so ironic is that if he played for Texas, the Aggies would despise him like no other. He is so NOT Aggie... It's a joy to see.

but he does go to Texas A&M and he is an Aggie. Soooo

[Phillip]

:cry you texas fans dont suck JFFs cock dry like i do:cry so you are :cry obviously delusional :cryand have no clue what :cryyou are :crytalking about :cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

[Sisk]

41-13

[AFBlue]

I'm going to throw Petty into the mix. He's already top-3, but I could see him vaulting himself into the lead with a big game on Saturday.

Gaudy stats, no comp internally from Seastrunk, ESPN hype machine on Saturday, being the perceived "good guy" alternative to Winston and Manziel...all reasons I think he has a legit shot at it.

[Sisk]

He does. Especially if we only win 1 of the next 2 or lose both. What drives me crazy about Baylor is the fact that the team deserves a much better fan base.


An OSU source told The Oklahoman that Baylor did not request its full allotment of 3,800 tickets and then only sold about 700.

[pgardn]

but he does go to Texas A&M and he is an Aggie. Soooo

So you and Sisk show what true Aggiedom is. Hate Texas more than loving your own team. Texas fans can at least appreciate awesome football. Going to the SEC was the best move ever. The big hard Orange Sun still weighs on you though.

Can you imagine Texas fans actually rooting for the Aggies in the SEC? How about the other way around?
I think this is what distinguishes the two sets of fans. Little brother has left the house and is out on his own. But will always envy big brother.

On the other hand you have two chances to make Saturday the best day of the week; A Texas loss and an Aggie win. What has to be troubling is which would you rather have?

Please beat LSU. I would really like to see that.

[benefactor]

So you and Sisk show what true Aggiedom is. Hate Texas more than loving your own team. Texas fans can at least appreciate awesome football. Going to the SEC was the best move ever. The big hard Orange Sun still weighs on you though.

They will be sawing off horns until the end of time tbh.

[Bill_Brasky]

So you and Sisk show what true Aggiedom is. Hate Texas more than loving your own team. Texas fans can at least appreciate awesome football.



lol, yeah right. half of the posts in this thread are texasfan trying to diminish/deflect JFF's accomplishments and circlejerking :cry Vince :cry (:lol out of the NFL and trying to beg)

[symple19]

He does. Especially if we only win 1 of the next 2 or lose both. What drives me crazy about Baylor is the fact that the team deserves a much better fan base.

Takes more than a few seasons to change a culture. Briles is on the right track, though

[DesignatedT]

Hate Texas more than loving your own team.

I have watched maybe 2 full quarters of texas football this season. I don't give two shits about what you guys are doing or if you are winning or losing.

I would actually prefer you beat Baylor when the time comes.

[pgardn]

lol, yeah right. half of the posts in this thread are texasfan trying to diminish/deflect JFF's accomplishments and circlejerking :cry Vince :cry (:lol out of the NFL and trying to beg)

To me it looks like the majority of Texas fans recognize JF greatness in college. Vince being out of the NFL does not diminish what he did as a college player. Vince just thought he would make a great pro and could not read a play book or read pro defenses. And then It's tough when you are not faster and stronger than all of the defenders chasing you down.

I don't think Manziel will have a Vince problem. He is too slick. But he could very well have other difficulties in the pros.

[pgardn]

I have watched maybe 2 full quarters of texas football this season. I don't give two shits about what you guys are doing or if you are winning or losing.

I would actually prefer you beat Baylor when the time comes.

Well I can understand that. You don't like bad football.

I have watched most of the Aggie games and thoroughly enjoy watching JF.
I like to watch good players and teams. Strange thing...
So you did not watch Texas games the year they beat USC and won the NC? (Barring the ATM game of course)

[the chronic]

Leigh Ann followed by saying "And trust us, we know Nick very well. He was hired by LSU in our living room."


No he wasn't.

:lmao

[Phillip]

I would actually prefer you beat Baylor when the time comes.

oh for the SEC's sake? to make sure they have the easiest road possible, so you can claim an SEC national championship? great idea :toast

[Michael Jordan.]

Manzielfan is probablu the worst thing to happen to football since Tebow.

[pgardn]

Manzielfan is probablu the worst thing to happen to football since Tebow.

Yeah.

Manziel with that huge Christian following...

Christ...

[Sisk]

So you and Sisk show what true Aggiedom is. Hate Texas more than loving your own team.

:lmao

[Holden_Caulfield]

derek carr for heisman

[jeebus]

Johnny Interception having a statement game so far.

[leemajors]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2Df4IKO_04

:lol

[LakerHater]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba1DzRBCIAExyBD.jpg:large

[leemajors]

4 losses

[LakerHater]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SgOeeqlUw

[Vito Corleone]

stats are for losers

[LakerHater]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba1DzRBCIAExyBD.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Baxhw2ACcAAXfPK.jpg:large

[DesignatedT]

Heisman finalists announced: Johnny Manziel-A&M; Tre Mason-Auburn; A.J. McCarron; Jameis Winston-FSU; Andre Williams-BC; Jordan Lynch-NIU.

[Holden_Caulfield]

wheres derek carr :cry :cry :cry what a joke

[The Reckoning]

looks like winston will win it. there's talk that he's going to shatter the votes.

[The Reckoning]

btw, johnny has the ultimate troll face. can anyone photoshop a troll face on that stats post?

[DesignatedT]

Winston deserves it. Even Manziel didn't cast his first or second place vote for himself.

[benefactor]

Unsurprising result, but congrats anyway to Winston.

[BRHornet45]

Winston raped the competition

[benefactor]

Winston raped the competition
https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1462867_10153681124105160_1073448455_n.jpg

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Unsurprising result, but congrats anyway to Winston.