Corey Maggette To Retire From NBA If He Doesn't Make Spurs

[SpursFanInAustin]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/230204/Corey-Maggette-To-Retire-From-NBA-If-He-Doesnt-Make-Spurs

"If I could get an opportunity here, it would be great," Maggette said. "If not, this game has been good to me.”

[RD2191]

I kind of just feel bad for the guy now, I hope he makes it.

[Bruno]

That's some unreal level of respect for Pop. Maggette has been a very good NBA player for more than a decade, he isn't that old and he is basically saying "If Pop thinks I'm done, then I'm done". It quite show how high Pop is valued by some players.

Spurs had to give Maggette a long and fair shot to make the roster. It's mostly because he is the last legit option for the 15th spot and that he will fit a need but it's also now because it's his career that is in play. If Pop decides he isn't good enough, then Spurs should consider offering him a FO spot. There should have some openings given that Marks went from the FO to the coaching staff this summer.

[spursfan1000]

Hopefully we sign him, I don't see anyone else better then him.

[rayray2k8]

Well... I guess it was a good career. I honestly don't think he'll be signed by the Spurs.

[exstatic]

Hopefully we sign him, I don't see anyone else better then him.

Spurs never set their 15 in concrete at the beginning of the season. There are usually good players cut at the deadline. Meantime, they can run some d-leaguers in and out.

[spurraider21]

I don't think the Spurs have 15 players better than him tbh. The ability to draw fouls is a solid skill to have that can be useful in a pinch

[lefty]

Wears a SPurs unoform once and becomes 10 years older

[Poolboy5623]

Can he still dunk?

[xmas1997]

That's some unreal level of respect for Pop. Maggette has been a very good NBA player for more than a decade, he isn't that old and he is basically saying "If Pop thinks I'm done, then I'm done". It quite show how high Pop is valued by some players.

Spurs had to give Maggette a long and fair shot to make the roster. It's mostly because he is the last legit option for the 15th spot and that he will fit a need but it's also now because it's his career that is in play. If Pop decides he isn't good enough, then Spurs should consider offering him a FO spot. There should have some openings given that Marks went from the FO to the coaching staff this summer.

Makes sense. No one is better at extending a vets career better than Pop. I would not be surprised if that is his next move because I really don't think he will make on the team.
I thought they were saving that FO position for Bonner though.

[Ice009]

That's some unreal level of respect for Pop. Maggette has been a very good NBA player for more than a decade, he isn't that old and he is basically saying "If Pop thinks I'm done, then I'm done". It quite show how high Pop is valued by some players.

Spurs had to give Maggette a long and fair shot to make the roster. It's mostly because he is the last legit option for the 15th spot and that he will fit a need but it's also now because it's his career that is in play. If Pop decides he isn't good enough, then Spurs should consider offering him a FO spot. There should have some openings given that Marks went from the FO to the coaching staff this summer.

If he were to get a job in the FO, can he actually still play if the Spurs were to need an extra player on the court? Is that allowed?

[Ice009]

If Maggette can improve his defense and shooting a little bit, then I would like to have him on the team. Drawing fouls is something I value quite highly. It helps in many situations and makes the game easier for the stars on the team. For example, when the starters rest, if Corey were to sub in a draw a foul or two then that gets us closer to the bonus for when the starters come back in, it also gives players more of a rest, and it also can help preserve/keep or even extend leads. It's also big on the road. Getting to the free throw line on the road can really contribute towards winning tough road games.

I hope he gets a very legit shot to make the team. Even if we sign him, it doesn't mean we have to keep him for the whole year does it? Can the Spurs just sign him to a non guaranteed contract, or do you guys think he won't sign unless it's a full guarantee for the season?

[xmas1997]

If he were to get a job in the FO, can he actually still play if the Spurs were to need an extra player on the court? Is that allowed?

I think he would have to come out of retirement for that to occur.

[Ice009]

I think he would have to come out of retirement for that to occur.

Does he have to officially retire to accept a front office job? I thought he could take the job and not officially retire, just in case he might be needed on the court.

[exstatic]

I don't think the Spurs have 15 players better than him tbh. The ability to draw fouls is a solid skill to have that can be useful in a pinch

They have 14 players on guaranteed contracts. Those spots are locked up tight, so don't act like Magette is competing with ANY of those players.

CM really has one skill , drawing fouls, and that has a short shelf life for an athletic player aged 34. He can't defend, and he can't shoot, making him pretty much useless to the Spurs.

If you sign Magette and lock up that spot, you're ruling out any kind of Diaw-type player dropping into our laps at buyout time. Luckily, the Spurs are a little more patient than most of their fans.

[xmas1997]

They have 14 players on guaranteed contracts. Those spots are locked up tight, so don't act like Magette is competing with ANY of those players.

CM really has one skill , drawing fouls, and that has a short shelf life for an athletic player aged 34. He can't defend, and he can't shoot, making him pretty much useless to the Spurs.

If you sign Magette and lock up that spot, you're ruling out any kind of Diaw-type player dropping into our laps at buyout time. Luckily, the Spurs are a little more patient than most of their fans.
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

[spurraider21]

They have 14 players on guaranteed contracts. Those spots are locked up tight, so don't act like Magette is competing with ANY of those players.

CM really has one skill , drawing fouls, and that has a short shelf life for an athletic player aged 34. He can't defend, and he can't shoot, making him pretty much useless to the Spurs.

If you sign Magette and lock up that spot, you're ruling out any kind of Diaw-type player dropping into our laps at buyout time. Luckily, the Spurs are a little more patient than most of their fans.
I must have missed the part where I said "omg sign him now!" That said, he is a guy that can provide scoring during a dry run, or a guy we can play late in quarters while the big guns get a rest and we have them in the penalty.

[Ice009]

They have 14 players on guaranteed contracts. Those spots are locked up tight, so don't act like Magette is competing with ANY of those players.

CM really has one skill , drawing fouls, and that has a short shelf life for an athletic player aged 34. He can't defend, and he can't shoot, making him pretty much useless to the Spurs.

If you sign Magette and lock up that spot, you're ruling out any kind of Diaw-type player dropping into our laps at buyout time. Luckily, the Spurs are a little more patient than most of their fans.

Who says that they have to sign him to a guaranteed contract? Can't they sign him to an non-guaranteed contract and still have that flexibility if they need it?

[callo1]

I wouldn't trust Pop with my career if I were Magette. Pop didn't even know his own player well (Manu) and kept trying to insert him into crunch time situations when he was obviously in a terrible funk.

I still have great respect for Pop, but he is far from perfect in his ability to gage a players mental and physical status.

[exstatic]

Who says that they have to sign him to a guaranteed contract? Can't they sign him to an non-guaranteed contract and still have that flexibility if they need it?

You still have to make the decision on whether to cut him before the NBA guarantee date in January LONG before the buyout players become available late Feb or early Mar. He might not want to sign a non-guaranteed deal, either. It sounds like he's pretty at peace with retirement.

[exstatic]

I wouldn't trust Pop with my career if I were Magette. Pop didn't even know his own player well (Manu) and kept trying to insert him into crunch time situations when he was obviously in a terrible funk.

I still have great respect for Pop, but he is far from perfect in his ability to gage a players mental and physical status.

You obviously have NO repsect for Pop, and are just jumping on the troll wagon to try to make some friends on this board.

Fuck off.

[Texas_Ranger]

Well there are no better SF's left. So yea, I'd keep him.

[chapnis]

He can't be any worse than Jax was last season surely?

I'd be keen to the FO to sign him if they can flip De Colo for a 2nd round pick, otherwise probably want to keep the 15th roster spot open.

[FireMicoHalili]

It's either he has tremendous respect for Pop as mentioned above or one of those situations where a dude threatens to kill himself if his girlfriend dumps him

personally though I hope he makes the team. Great value for vet min. Just needs a corner triple.

[will_spurs]

You still have to make the decision on whether to cut him before the NBA guarantee date in January LONG before the buyout players become available late Feb or early Mar. He might not want to sign a non-guaranteed deal, either.

If his salary isn't too high, couldn't the Spurs just cut him at any time after that and simply pay him his dues?

[justinandimcool]

Better fit for this team than Bellinelli. Small sample size but Maggette fills a position need while his talents, despite being limited, are vital and consistent (getting to the line). Belinelli forces us to play one guy out of position every time he's on the floor, and his inconsistent jumpshot mechanics mixed with the confidence of Gary Neal will drive everyone up a wall.

His handles will make up for Gary's inadequacy as a ball-handler, but Marco is a no-no down the stretch because you can't trust his shot or decision making. Maggette won't be asked to do more than his role, and he's the type of player to do that effectively.

That said, if Maggette is just going to be signed to be a microball 4 next to Ayres or Baynes, it would be a disaster.

[Vash StampedE]

He went to the line 8 times and made them all. That's a good sign, based on boxscore solely.

[bklynspursfan]

Might not be the greatest defender, but if he could get key guys into foul trouble from the opposing team, I guess that's just as good as playing defense by keeping those guys on the bench. I don't know whether he has a legit shot or not, but I'd be all for it. Would give us a different element in whatever amount of playing time he would get.

[Bruno]

Having 15 players under contract with Spurs being that far from the luxury tax (more than $7M below it if Maggette is kept) doesn't really take away flexibility. If there is an available player Spurs like, they can easily waive another one with a guaranteed contract.

[Proxy]

His statistical drop post-GSW is pretty steep. He's only been to the playoffs with that Cassell LAC team too, so I imagine the motivation to make this team is there.

If he can't make a team in search of a backup SF and with said variable in mind, then it makes sense to retire.

[Budkin]

Who the hell else is left? Did Pietrus get signed? Keep him.

[Holden_Caulfield]

can we cut de colo?

[Hoops Czar]

Who the hell else is left? Did Pietrus get signed? Keep him.

Last I heard, he wanted a guaranteed contract, not a camp invite. He's still on the market. After watching Young and Maggette play, I don't think Pietrus could have been any worse at this point.

[exstatic]

I don't think he's going to make the cut. He ABSOLUTELY watched a rebound hit the floor, when he was the closest player to it, and Faried RAN in and grabbed it. Pop don't play that shit.

[iManu]

Looks done.

[Darkwaters]

I don't think he's going to make the cut. He ABSOLUTELY watched a rebound hit the floor, when he was the closest player to it, and Faried RAN in and grabbed it. Pop don't play that shit.

I watched that play and had a similar reaction. Honestly, I was still kind of on a fence with him until I saw that. Yea, not interested anymore.

[anakha]

Stick a fork (spork?) in him.

[CitizenDwayne]

I don't think he's going to make the cut. He ABSOLUTELY watched a rebound hit the floor, when he was the closest player to it, and Faried RAN in and grabbed it. Pop don't play that shit.

That was kinda shocking to see. The vast majority of the posters on here could have grabbed that board...wtf was he thinking?

[Spur|n|Austin]

I don't think he's going to make the cut. He ABSOLUTELY watched a rebound hit the floor, when he was the closest player to it, and Faried RAN in and grabbed it. Pop don't play that shit.

Yeah not sure what that was about, but it's not going to help his case at all. He's gone.

[iManu]

De Colo should probably go with him.

Bummer.

[Ice009]

No idea. Not too happy with him after this game. He has a golden chance to make the team, but he is blowing it so far. I'd still give him a game or two, especially if he hasn't played for 10 months or so, like Bruno said.

Anymore games with those poor hustle plays though and you might as just well cut him outright and look for players that are hungrier. I'd be interested in Pietrus if he is OK physically. What do you think about Pietrus, Bruno?

[exstatic]

No idea. Not too happy with him after this game. He has a golden chance to make the team, but he is blowing it so far. I'd still give him a game or two, especially if he hasn't played for 10 months or so, like Bruno said.

Anymore games with those poor hustle plays though and you might as just well cut him outright and look for players that are hungrier. I'd be interested in Pietrus if he is OK physically. What do you think about Pietrus, Bruno?

Pietrus wants guaranteed money. The Spurs want someone who can spell Kawhi for just 10-12 minutes. I don't see a meeting of the minds happening.

[look_at_g_shred]

If only Maggette had a mcdyess type jumper to go with his ability to draw fouls I'd be all In for corey. At this point, I think we should keep the 15th spot open. We always have diaw/Manu to put there when Kawhi needs rest.

[Sean88888]

I kinda like Fells after these 3 games. He played better than Maggette. Can we cut Maggette, then stick Fells in Toros so that we can call him up when we need him?

[Josepatches_]

Pietrus? We have enough french players

[lefty]

I kinda like Fells after these 3 games. He played better than Maggette. Can we cut Maggette, then stick Fells in Toros so that we can call him up when we need him?

wtf sig :lmao

[RD2191]

wtf sig :lmao
:lmao

[eDizzle20]

With the way things are going in regards to the backup small forward position if Deshaun Thomas was in camp he would be looking the best. He's at least a knock down shooter.

[Baseline]

Fells is infinitely more interesting than either of the Coreys. Magguette is just not a Spur. All he can do is throw himself against people in the paint and hope to get a call. But since when have Spur players gotten a call? I think Manu got a call during the 2007 playoff run. I don't think I've seen it happen since then. And Corey Joseph? People, the guy is so average, and has no upside. We know he can't shoot, and he certainly doesn't have a three ball. Fells looks like he has upside - he's long, active, knows how to dish, and can finish better than Joseph on the break. I have no idea about his shot, but what I'm saying is that if you're going to have a backup PG who can't shoot, I'd rather go with Fells. Joseph scares the crap out of me. That said, I'd play Patty in front of Joseph.

[Ice009]

Fells, I'm pretty sure, isn't a PG. So what the f#$% are you talking about? Cory Joseph was much better tonight. I also liked the aggressiveness that Kabongo displayed out there. He was very aggressive getting to the rim, which I like.

Maggette really wasn't good at all tonight. Hopefully, it's just rust, and he starts playing better, if not, then I don't think he is good enough to make the team with the way he's been playing so far.

[RD2191]

:lol

[waisman]

why his jumpshoot is miss ...

[Darkwaters]

I'm actually kind of interested in keeping Kabongo. It's probably a long-shot though. But if the team were honestly considering moving away from De Colo then we'd probably want another PG on the roster other than just Parker and Joseph. Kabongo could be that guy. And as a 14th or 15th guy on a bare bones minimum contract it would be a respectable enough signing.

[xmas1997]

I have been touting Kabongo since I first read about him.
He was supposed to be a lottery pick but got into various unfortunate situations that sidetracked his career.
I think he might have a brighter upside than Cojo.

[bklynspursfan]

Maggette struggled, and that blown rebound was just awful... He got a few good looks tho from the corner and a couple mid range shots, but just isn't knocking them down. He started to force the issue a little. Playing in a b2b with the altitude may have affected it, plus the fact that he hasn't played in so long.

I was expecting to see he was cut today but I guess we'll see what happens. Maybe he'll get 1 more crack at it. The first game he played he wasn't that bad, so maybe he'll have another opportunity.

[look_at_g_shred]

why his jumpshoot is miss ...
huh?

[xmas1997]

They cut Young early. I bet Maggette gets the axe early too.

[rjv]

maggette was so bad last night he made the manu of last year's finals look like an all-star. he lacked confidence in his shot, could not finish and was terrible.

[xmas1997]

So, who is hosting his retirement party, McGrady, SJax? :lol

[td4mvp2k]

Paul Garcia PS @PaulGarciaPS
(http://twitter.com/PaulGarciaPS)On Corey Maggette, Coach Pop said Maggette “wouldn’t be a bad insurance policy” for Kawhi. #Spurs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs)

[xmas1997]

So is Maggette this years version of last years McGrady?

[Darius Bieber]

I think they will cut him. Spurs don't usually have a maxed roster to begin the season. Last year we picked up Baynes, then the year before that we picked up Mills and Diaw during the season. I think the Spurs will hold their 15th spot.

I also think they'll send Kabongo and Air Force to the Toros. They have potential.

[waisman]

I think Maggette can good offence except shoot.
But his jump shoot is too poor.

[I. Hustle]

I think Maggette can good offence except shoot.
But his jump shoot is too poor.

http://img.pandawhale.com/30582-Thats-Waisis-gif-pyaA.gif

[bigfan]

The guy is done.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Maggette waived - http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/131015_spurs_waive_cousin_kabongo_maggette

[RD2191]

damn

[Baam]

Kabongo and Maggette, sad to hear, Pop going with the exact same PGs that didn't cut it last year and no back up SF to relieve a player with tendinitis... What do they say about doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome...

[justinandimcool]

lmfao those 8-10 minutes a night of inconsistent ass Belinelli at 2 and Manu at backup 3 will be painful

and if I got cut from a team with Nando fucking De Colo still sitting on the sidelines I'd retire too

[Darius Bieber]

Other teams getting better while the Spurs pretty much remain the same. Same story, different season.

[McGusto55]

He just got wavied

[waisman]

end

[waisman]

want SF

[monkeypunk]

Best of luck to you, Corey!

[ace3g]

Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
(http://twitter.com/JaredZwerling)From Maggette's friend: "The Spurs loved him. Pop and the staff wanted him. He's a good fit for their culture & system. All a health issue."

[RD2191]

what the?

[timtonymanu]

:lol Spurs remaining the same. They've upgraded from Blair to Ayres. The jury is still out on Belinelli but he should be better than Neal. Leonard, Baynes and Joseph should all be improved.

It's not like Maggette was really going to help. He looks done.

[UZER]

So is Maggette this years version of last years McGrady?

Id rather have last years mcgrady

[Dex]

Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
(http://twitter.com/JaredZwerling)From Maggette's friend: "The Spurs loved him. Pop and the staff wanted him. He's a good fit for their culture & system. All a health issue."



Wow, that's unfortunate.

Best of luck to Maggette.

[rick1991]

Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
(http://twitter.com/JaredZwerling)From Maggette's friend: "The Spurs loved him. Pop and the staff wanted him. He's a good fit for their culture & system. All a health issue."


What health issue?

[xmas1997]

Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerling
(http://twitter.com/JaredZwerling)From Maggette's friend: "The Spurs loved him. Pop and the staff wanted him. He's a good fit for their culture & system. All a health issue."



About five or so years too late for Maggette on this team.

[Chillen]

He's done in terms of playing at a high level in the NBA, in terms of actual basketball skill he would crush anyone in street ball, or a local Y game. Often players just regress and that is why they retire early, it really takes alot to play this game at a high level night in, night out, eventually it goes away sadly, that's life. People always see players retire from the NBA and say they are done, to old, blah blah. Most of those players are more athletic than your average joe but the body starts breaking down and these players freakish athletic skills just go poof.

[Ice009]

It also shows that having a great/muscular body doesn't mean that you still have your athleticism. I made the mistake thinking that he might still be all right physically just by looking at him. There's obviously something wrong with him physically, or he has some kind of injury.

Do you guys think that the health issue is an injury or that he has declined too much physically?

btw Bruno, what do you think about Pietrus? Is he a possibility at all? What's your personal opinion of him as a player for this Spurs team (taking money and contracts out of the equation)?

[xmas1997]

It also shows that having a great/muscular body doesn't mean that you still have your athleticism. I made the mistake thinking that he might still be all right physically just by looking at him. There's obviously something wrong with him physically, or he has some kind of injury.

Do you guys think that the health issue is an injury or that he has declined too much physically?

btw Bruno, what do you think about Pietrus? Is he a possibility at all? What's your personal opinion of him as a player for this Spurs team (taking money and contracts out of the equation)?

Don't know what Bruno will say. I am curious too.
But I think he wants a guaranteed contract, and teams are reluctant to give him one, that is why he hasn't signed with anybody, or anyone hasn't signed him.

[lefty]

So is Maggette this years version of last years McGrady?

No


Tmac came close to winning a title



VERY close

[benfti]

Well done to Cory, one of my all time favorite Spurs

[look_at_g_shred]

Dude is finished.

[Bruno]

btw Bruno, what do you think about Pietrus? Is he a possibility at all? What's your personal opinion of him as a player for this Spurs team (taking money and contracts out of the equation)?

I guess he could be a possibility but I don't like it. Pietrus has been a lot injured in the past few years and has surely lost a lot of his athleticism. another issue is that he is quite small/light for what the Spurs need. If Spurs add another SF, he should be significantly bigger/stronger than a player like Green. Young and Maggette were quite small but they were also very strong player.

Pietrus also worked out for Spurs in September so it's a given Spurs weren't thrilled by what they saw from him.

[callo1]

You obviously have NO repsect for Pop, and are just jumping on the troll wagon to try to make some friends on this board.

Fuck off.

So let me get this straight, if I share an opinion that you disagree with that automatically makes me a troll, and I can F-off...umm...okay Joseph Stalin.

Any person could see that Manu had no confidence, and was in a funk in the Finals. Pop was trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip and it totally backfired.

Did you miss the part where I stated that I still had much respect for Pop, our were you too busy reading Mao's Little Red Book to notice?

Two words.....calm down

[Ice009]

I guess he could be a possibility but I don't like it. Pietrus has been a lot injured in the past few years and has surely lost a lot of his athleticism. another issue is that he is quite small/light for what the Spurs need. If Spurs add another SF, he should be significantly bigger/stronger than a player like Green. Young and Maggette were quite small but they were also very strong player.

Pietrus also worked out for Spurs in September so it's a given Spurs weren't thrilled by what they saw from him.

Oh OK, I guess we can scratch him off the list then. If the Spurs already worked him out, then I guess they weren't that impressed with him.

[RD2191]

Good God, some people need to sack up. I claimed Leonard had a bad game the other night and everyone started bitching like a little girl. Opinions vary, get the fuck over it.

[Ice009]

Good God, some people need to sack up. I claimed Leonard had a bad game the other night and everyone started bitching like a little girl. Opinions vary, get the fuck over it.

Did you even watch the game? I don't think you did.

[RD2191]

Yes I did. Am I as knowledgeable as you are when it comes to basketball? Hell no. But like I said, opinions vary. People just start calling you an idiot and whining when people disagree with them. Was he good on defense? I though he was good but not great. His free throw shooting was also terrible. Nice assist and what not but I really wasn't that impressed. I thought since the big 3 were out he would be able to thrive as the first option.