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JohnnyMax
10-15-2013, 12:44 PM
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Jordan thought Brown was cocky and disrespectful sometimes, particularly when the teenager nagged him about playing a one-on-one game, hinting that doom awaited him. Finally, Jordan agreed to the game, Brown grinning on the court, convinced his youth and height would be indefensible weapons against this shorter man twice his age. Early in the game, believing he had a lunging, jabbing Jordan off balance, the kid dared to say, "You reach, I'll teach." Jordan snapped, "You teach, and I'll knock you on your damn ass." He proceeded to humiliate Brown, mocking him while scoring at will, declining to help him up when the teenager fell hard to the floor, winning lopsidedly and, at the end, yelling at Brown to acknowledge his superiority in front of the team: "You better call me 'Daddy,' (expletive)." "Michael was breaking him down," one observer recounted, "probably to build him up. But there was a lot of breaking down."

lefty
10-15-2013, 12:59 PM
Alpha Male behavior

thunderup
10-15-2013, 01:13 PM
That's why MJ is the toughest competitor ever. LeRoid will never be on MJ's level.

UZER
10-15-2013, 01:22 PM
:lol mentally destroying and ruining his own first round draft pick just because he felt disrespected.

lefty
10-15-2013, 01:31 PM
That's why MJ is the toughest competitor ever. LeRoid will never be on MJ's level.

LeROid still shits on BetaDurant :lol

FkLA
10-15-2013, 01:39 PM
:lol mentally destroying and ruining his own first round draft pick just because he felt disrespected.

Ruthless. No wonder this mofo ended up being the GOAT.

ambchang
10-15-2013, 01:42 PM
A great leader would have understood who can take what sort of motivation.

While Kwame was most definitely a wuss, a better leader would have found ways to motivate and get the best out of him instead of destroying him.

Killakobe81
10-15-2013, 01:46 PM
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Nothing surprising. Heard similar stories. MJ still a bad ass but soooo far from the perfect player some people choose to remember. He took bad shots (though nothing like Kobe or AI) and berated and punched team-mates. But he won, had a nice smile and promoted his brand.

Still the GOAt but not untouchable. Lebron still has an outside shot tbh ...

UZER
10-15-2013, 01:48 PM
A great leader would have understood who can take what sort of motivation.

While Kwame was most definitely a wuss, a better leader would have found ways to motivate and get the best out of him instead of destroying him.

Exactly my point

Killakobe81
10-15-2013, 01:52 PM
A great leader would have understood who can take what sort of motivation.

While Kwame was most definitely a wuss, a better leader would have found ways to motivate and get the best out of him instead of destroying him.

Agree. Kobe suffers from the same disease. But it worked with Pippen it eventually destroyed his bond with horace Grant. MJ and Kobe never studied "Situational Leadership". They old school my way or the highway types ...

Pop might of been great for Kwame tough, but caring. Collins and Mj was a bad elixir ...

jag
10-15-2013, 01:54 PM
In an attempt to be like Mike, Kobe was also tough on his parents. Then they disowned him and auctioned all the gifts he had given them over the years.

Clipper Nation
10-15-2013, 01:56 PM
That's why MJ is the toughest competitor ever. LeRoid will never be on MJ's level.
Durflop will never even be in the conversation.... :lol his own fiancee and Westbrick being more alpha on the court than him

DeadlyDynasty
10-15-2013, 02:02 PM
Worst hands in sports history.

Killakobe81
10-15-2013, 02:04 PM
Worst hands in sports history.

They were bad. but he could of been better than he was if developed correctly.

DeadlyDynasty
10-15-2013, 02:09 PM
They were bad. but he could of been better than he was if developed correctly.
Kwame, in a nutshell:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-OpTHixpU

jeebus
10-15-2013, 02:36 PM
Kwame, in a nutshell:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-OpTHixpU
:lmao

Rogue
10-16-2013, 12:37 AM
another evidence that dad killer is a class-1 asshole except when playing basketball.

HI-FI
10-16-2013, 12:46 AM
Agree. Kobe suffers from the same disease. But it worked with Pippen it eventually destroyed his bond with horace Grant. MJ and Kobe never studied "Situational Leadership". They old school my way or the highway types ...

Pop might of been great for Kwame tough, but caring. Collins and Mj was a bad elixir ...
agree on this. would've been interesting to see what Pop could do with Kwame. and part of MJ's asshole behavior was certainly not helped by the NBA covering for his ass.

TDMVPDPOY
10-16-2013, 01:20 AM
MJ fcked up browns development imo, triangle offense dont benefit anyone besides the chucker...

Killakobe81
10-16-2013, 08:14 AM
MJ fcked up browns development imo, triangle offense dont benefit anyone besides the chucker...

The triangle is great for post players who can pass (Shaq and Pau found great success). Wings who can pass Kukoc, Pippen and to a lessor degree Kobe and MJ. And scorers who want spacing: Mj, kobe shaq. spot up shooters also benefit from the floor spacing (kerr, paxson, fisher, Shaw Hodges, Horry) It is not good for dribble heavy players which is why Mj struggled some early with it and kobe "fought it" even though it was the best offense for him.

LkrFan
10-16-2013, 08:22 AM
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Yawn. Preying on the weak-minded. What happens when he plays a real alpha dog? This:

u-2Hd-Ly2CQ

About the 0:57 mark, Air Jaundice gets a breakaway dunk and is smiling. Seething at this point, Kobe calls him a bitch. Then he proceeds to drop 8 3-ptrs right between his jaundiced eyes en route to a 42-point half and a cool double nickel for the night. He lucky JVG (think Knicks-Bulls rivalry) wasn't our coach that night instead of PJ. Wilt's record would have fell with 6 minutes left in the game tbh. :rollin :lmao :rollin

ambchang
10-16-2013, 09:44 AM
another evidence that dad killer is a class-1 asshole except when playing basketball.

I think the conclusion is that he is a class-1 a-hole, regardless of whether he is playing basketball or not.

That's why the Bulls team was well constructed. You have an psychopathic ego-maniac as an alpha with the skills to match, a versatile Robin who is willing to direct traffic, take blame, and admire the hell out of Jordan, you have a rebounder/inside player in Grant/Rodman to do the dirty work, you have mid-range shooting big man to open up the lanes and the lowpost for Jordan, and you have a bunch of 3 point shooters to space the lanes.

As much as people hate Jabba-the-Krause, he was a genius in creating that team by putting the right pieces together.

ambchang
10-16-2013, 09:55 AM
Yawn. Preying on the weak-minded. What happens when he plays a real alpha dog? This:

u-2Hd-Ly2CQ

About the 0:57 mark, Air Jaundice gets a breakaway dunk and is smiling. Seething at this point, Kobe calls him a bitch. Then he proceeds to drop 8 3-ptrs right between his jaundiced eyes en route to a 42-point half and a cool double nickel for the night. He lucky JVG (think Knicks-Bulls rivalry) wasn't our coach that night instead of PJ. Wilt's record would have fell with 6 minutes left in the game tbh. :rollin :lmao :rollin

Prime Kobe vs. Washington Jordan is a fair comparison, I agree with you.

Also, :lol with Lue, Stackhouse and Parg:lol guarding Kobe throughout, and Lakers putting Fox and George on Jordan. Washington putting horrible defensive players and no double teams on Kobe even when Kobe was going off, while Lakers putting their best on Jordan. Only time Kobe scored on Jordan were bail out fouls.

For comparison's sake, an over-the-hill Jordan scored 36, 30, 27, and 31 points on Kobe.

AchillesHeel
10-16-2013, 10:36 AM
Kwame was a fucking pussy, he called out MJ and wanted to play him 1 vs 1, Kwame got a bit over his head after being picked 1st and he was often slacking in practice and playing video games instead of working on his game, MJ flipped on him and rightfully so. Kwame never had a desire to be great, he was just 7 ft tall with big hands and some athleticism, never reached his potential, didn't work on his hands or his defense, he should have been way better.