After the Dwightmare, we have....

[spurraider21]

the Melodrama.

http://nba.si.com/2013/10/16/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-free-agency-2014/


Carmelo says he wants to be a free agent. I hope he joins the Lakers. Sign a 30 year old proven loser to a max contract :tu

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol cant win in the east, now force to go west?

he wouldve had a good % to win out east, if the big3 didnt assemble...then again the knicks look like shit compared to the pacers and bulls

[LkrFan]

the Melodrama.

http://nba.si.com/2013/10/16/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-free-agency-2014/


Carmelo says he wants to be a free agent. I hope he joins the Lakers. Sign a 30 year old proven loser to a max contract :tu

Once upon a time, there was this dude name LeBron James, who for almost a decade, he was fondly known as LeHype. You are probably asking how could that be because there isn't a statline he couldn't fill. You need 30pts, 12 asts, 8 rebs, 3 steals, 4 blocks - he was your man, 50-grand. However, no matter how many gaudy stats he would put up, he still couldn't...wait for it...WIN. In other words, the above bolded terms in the OP desribed him to a tee. Try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try (see what I did there - 8 times? :lol) as he must, he just couldn't get over the hump... So he decides to do the unthinkable. He did something equivalent of slapping his own mamma (wouldn't put it past him tbh :lol). He made The Decision! to collude with his two BFFs from the studly class of 2003. He just couldn't take being the above bolded terms in the OP any longer. He wanted to shed that choking label and he wanted to do it now. So what he couldn't get past Boston. He didn't want to pay his dues. He had an organization by their collective jock and bra straps. Anything he did, no matter how disrespectful or hideous, they would just smile, pat him on the back, and turn a blind eye to his shennangins. They spoiled him rotten.

He proceeded to take a wet dogshit on them anyway as he took his talents to South Beach and did so in front of millions upon millions of people. He didn't even have the balls to tell management face to face (cowardly tbh). Through his play, he was threatening to continue to be the above bolded terms in the OP again when Dirk decided to bitch slap him in the Finals. Naturally, panic began to set in. He found himself beginning to really own the above bolded terms in the OP. It was getting to him. You could tell as he passed up last second shot after last second shot for fear of failure (pathetic tbh). The world was caving in on him. There was nowhere to go...until Mike Miller went nuts the following year from the land of plenty (saving his ass) and Shane Battier + Ray Allen followed suit the following year. Now Big Daddy Kang can puff out his chest a little bit more. 2x champion that would finally shed the above bolded terms in the OP thanks to collusion with his BFFs... and a few savy vets.

/The End

:downspin:

[Thebesteva]

Dont want that guy near the Lakers...he's very talented but he misses that 'it' factor that you need to win it all

[ezau]

^^ As if Dwight has that winning gene.:lol

[spurraider21]

Once upon a time, there was this dude name LeBron James, who for almost a decade, he was fondly known as LeHype. You are probably asking how could that be because there isn't a statline he couldn't fill. You need 30pts, 12 asts, 8 rebs, 3 steals, 4 blocks - he was your man, 50-grand. However, no matter how many gaudy stats he would put up, he still couldn't...wait for it...WIN. In other words, the above bolded terms in the OP desribed him to a tee. Try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try (see what I did there - 8 times? :lol) as he must, he just couldn't get over the hump... So he decides to do the unthinkable. He did something equivalent of slapping his own mamma (wouldn't put it past him tbh :lol). He made The Decision! to collude with his two BFFs from the studly class of 2003. He just couldn't take being the above bolded terms in the OP any longer. He wanted to shed that choking label and he wanted to do it now. So what he couldn't get past Boston. He didn't want to pay his dues. He had an organization by their collective jock and bra straps. Anything he did, no matter how disrespectful or hideous, they would just smile, pat him on the back, and turn a blind eye to his shennangins. They spoiled him rotten.

He proceeded to take a wet dogshit on them anyway as he took his talents to South Beach and did so in front of millions upon millions of people. He didn't even have the balls to tell management face to face (cowardly tbh). Through his play, he was threatening to continue to be the above bolded terms in the OP again when Dirk decided to bitch slap him in the Finals. Naturally, panic began to set in. He found himself beginning to really own the above bolded terms in the OP. It was getting to him. You could tell as he passed up last second shot after last second shot for fear of failure (pathetic tbh). The world was caving in on him. There was nowhere to go...until Mike Miller went nuts the following year from the land of plenty (saving his ass) and Shane Battier + Ray Allen followed suit the following year. Now Big Daddy Kang can puff out his chest a little bit more. 2x champion that would finally shed the above bolded terms in the OP thanks to collusion with his BFFs... and a few savy vets.

/The End

:downspin:


Dont want that guy near the Lakers...he's very talented but he misses that 'it' factor that you need to win it all
^Melo has never been anywhere near the caliber of LeBron, so please lets not associate their careers. Melo is a ballstopper who scores at average efficiency while doing nothing to use his teammates, and does virtually nothing defensively. LeBron scores efficiently, gets his teammates the easiest looks they'll get anywhere in the NBA, and is one of the best defensive players in the league.

[Katherine Robinson]

Bad news for the future of the Lakers, Baby Buss is salivating at the idea of recruiting Carmelo Anthony.

[AchillesHeel]

Bad news for the future of the Lakers, Baby Buss is salivating at the idea of recruiting Carmelo Anthony.

And the funniest part is, Melo will be 30 next year

I can imagine the Lakers' starting line-up in a year:

Pau - 34
PF - who cares
SF - Melo 30
SG - Kirby 36
PG - Nash 41

:lmao

[elmanutres]

my god, can you imagine 3 ball hogs at the same floor on the same team (kirby, melo and young)
http://lickthestranger.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/mother-of-god-meme.jpg

[RsxPiimp]

Bad news for the future of the Lakers, Baby Buss is salivating at the idea of recruiting Carmelo Anthony.

They can try but I think melo stays in ny. Also a huge market, can offer the most $$$ and less pressure.

[Katherine Robinson]

They can try but I think melo stays in ny. Also a huge market, can offer the most $$$ and less pressure.

The future of the Lakers rests on that.

[LkrFan]

^Melo has never been anywhere near the caliber of LeBron, so please lets not associate their careers. Melo is a ballstopper who scores at average efficiency while doing nothing to use his teammates, and does virtually nothing defensively. LeBron scores efficiently, gets his teammates the easiest looks they'll get anywhere in the NBA, and is one of the best defensive players in the league.
To be fair, They both were 8-time losers. Tangible difference between the two of them? Collusion. Had LBJ not flown the coup, he'd likely still be sitting on a goose egg. He got bailed outPERIOD by the likes of Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Ray Allen, and a major assist by a team that couldn't hold a fucking lead for 28 seconds.

LBJ ain't fooling nobody. He's been protected since his first NBA game vs. the Queens. He has a good skillset and he's physically gifted so he will always put up stats. Despite it all, he still had to collude to win. Each rang he wins through collusion gets a big fat * in my book. Had he won in Cleveland even ONCE I'd gladly STFU about him and give him his props. But he didn't because he wasn't good enough.

He should be 1-3 in the Finals. San Antonio Chokers. SMH

:downspin:

[Michael Jordan.]

To be fair, They both were 8-time losers. Tangible difference between the two of them? Collusion. Had LBJ not flown the coup, he'd likely still be sitting on a goose egg. He got bailed outPERIOD by the likes of Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Ray Allen, and a major assist by a team that couldn't hold a fucking lead for 28 seconds.

LBJ ain't fooling nobody. He's been protected since his first NBA game vs. the Queens. He has a good skillset and he's physically gifted so he will always put up stats. Despite it all, he still had to collude to win. Each rang he wins through collusion gets a big fat * in my book. Had he won in Cleveland even ONCE I'd gladly STFU about him and give him his props. But he didn't because he wasn't good enough.

He should be 1-3 in the Finals. San Antonio Chokers. SMH

:downspin:
Your trolling sucks. Bron made it to the finals without a decent big. Kobe couldn't even get by those terrible defensive D'antoni teams :lol

[spurraider21]

To be fair, They both were 8-time losers. Tangible difference between the two of them? Collusion. Had LBJ not flown the coup, he'd likely still be sitting on a goose egg. He got bailed outPERIOD by the likes of Mike Miller, Shane Battier, Ray Allen, and a major assist by a team that couldn't hold a fucking lead for 28 seconds.

LBJ ain't fooling nobody. He's been protected since his first NBA game vs. the Queens. He has a good skillset and he's physically gifted so he will always put up stats. Despite it all, he still had to collude to win. Each rang he wins through collusion gets a big fat * in my book. Had he won in Cleveland even ONCE I'd gladly STFU about him and give him his props. But he didn't because he wasn't good enough.

He should be 1-3 in the Finals. San Antonio Chokers. SMH

:downspin:
Lebron took those fucking cavs to the finals. Melo sucks so bad he even sucked at colluding with fuckin stoudemire :lmao

[Leetonidas]

Yeah that 2007 Cavs team outside of Bron was on par with the 2005-2007 Lakers, maybe even worse. I mean starting Sasha Pavlovic, Drew fucking Gooden, Boobie Gibson, and old ass Illgauskas? That they were in the Finals at all was a testament to LeBron's greatness tbh

[Leetonidas]

Also Lakerfan should stfu about Bron needing help, Kobe needed two all-star bigmen and a 6MOY plus a former DPOY and all-star in Artest. Honestly the 2010 Lakers with Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, Odom, and Artest were more talented than the Miami Heat. How quickly we forget :lol

[Chris]

The Mavs should seriously consider writing a blank check to Melo in the offseason tbh.

[benstanfield]

He was never going to sign an extension so this is a nonstory. Knicks will throw a truck full of cash at him, he can sign for 1 more year of a max deal with NY than with anyone else.

[Rogue]

Fans are sometimes deceived into thinking the Knicks are built to win championships, when they actually aren't. NY just want the guys who can sell the most tickets, who're good at scoring and showing, but not winning. It's just what NYC is all about, they want glamor and noise more than anything imho

[fevertrees]

http://ihatelebronjames.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/melo-hating-on-lebron.jpg

http://www.nba.com/media/suns/index_as_040828.jpg


While

http://touchfm.org/wp/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/69f4a_kobe-wins-2012-gold.jpg

[Rogue]

http://touchfm.org/wp/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/69f4a_kobe-wins-2012-gold.jpg

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9e/45/fb/9e45fbe0fec29e430e6d4f2acfb14598.jpg while http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4668622035094813&pid=15.1

[LkrFan]

Also Lakerfan should stfu about Bron needing help, Kobe needed two all-star bigmen and a 6MOY plus a former DPOY and all-star in Artest. Honestly the 2010 Lakers with Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, Odom, and Artest were more talented than the Miami Heat. How quickly we forget :lol

Difference: Pau came to Kobe to win after going 0-12 without him; Of course after The Sweep! Pau is now 0-16 without Kobe.

OTOH: LeBronze went to Wade's team to win along with Bosh Spice, after 7 years of all bark (stats) and no bite (rangs)

:downspin:

[spurraider21]

Bosh Spice
at least try to be original, tbh

[LkrFan]

http://ihatelebronjames.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/melo-hating-on-lebron.jpg

http://www.nba.com/media/suns/index_as_040828.jpg


While

http://touchfm.org/wp/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/69f4a_kobe-wins-2012-gold.jpg

Let's talk about leadership. Tammy gets all kinds of props for his leadership. What about the Olympics? He had LeBronze, Wade, and AI - on his team. No way in hell should they have not won gold. No fucking wayPERIOD. They were stacked, but like his marriage, Tammy was an Olympic failure.

Maybe they were missing something...a true leader who already won 3 rangs...let's delve into that, shall we?

It's 2008. Kobe is fresh off of an MVP season (should have won more, but white mediots are still holding Colorado against him, but I digress). After The Bronze! in 2004, American history was made in the worst way. Coach K called upon a 12-year NBA vet to save the U.S. Men's Olympic team. He had a 2-time chumpion that lead his NBA team to many 50-win teams, but without referee help, he could only muster a bronze medal. Enter Kobe Bean. Immediately in their first practice, Kobe set the tone. LeBronze and the crew followed. He practices as hard as he plays. It was to no one's surprise that they went on to win gold:

http://www.usab.com/photos/08_moly_bryant_bio_300.jpg

I'd even argue that Kobe taught LeBronze how to win. Prior to that 2008 Olympic team (for which Kobe was his teammate setting the tone) LeBronze had ZERO (http://www.nba.com/history/awards_defensiveteams.html)all defensive honors. It's true, LeBronze didn't win even one all defensive honor before he participated in the 2008 Olympics. Is it a coincidence that after the 2008 Olympics he finally became a perinneal all defender? I think not sons.

:downspin:

[spurraider21]

LkrFan you have used the :downspin: emoticon on every post in this thread (and a majority of your posts on this forum). we get it

[TDMVPDPOY]

a lakerfan comparing lebrons all defensive vs kobe...lol everyone knows kobe all defensive honors are questionable...

[spurraider21]

the Melodrama.

http://nba.si.com/2013/10/16/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-free-agency-2014/


Carmelo says he wants to be a free agent. I hope he joins the Lakers. Sign a 30 year old proven loser to a max contract :tu

[LkrFan]

Let's talk about leadership. Tammy gets all kinds of props for his leadership. What about the Olympics? He had LeBronze, Wade, and AI - on his team. No way in hell should they have not won gold. No fucking wayPERIOD. They were stacked, but like his marriage, Tammy was an Olympic failure.

Maybe they were missing something...a true leader who already won 3 rangs...let's delve into that, shall we?

It's 2008. Kobe is fresh off of an MVP season (should have won more, but white mediots are still holding Colorado against him, but I digress). After The Bronze! in 2004, American history was made in the worst way. Coach K called upon a 12-year NBA vet to save the U.S. Men's Olympic team. He had a 2-time chumpion that lead his NBA team to many 50-win teams, but without referee help, he could only muster a bronze medal. Enter Kobe Bean. Immediately in their first practice, Kobe set the tone. LeBronze and the crew followed. He practices as hard as he plays. It was to no one's surprise that they went on to win gold:

http://www.usab.com/photos/08_moly_bryant_bio_300.jpg

I'd even argue that Kobe taught LeBronze how to win. Prior to that 2008 Olympic team (for which Kobe was his teammate setting the tone) LeBronze had ZERO (http://www.nba.com/history/awards_defensiveteams.html) all defensive honors. It's true, LeBronze didn't win even one all defensive honor before he participated in the 2008 Olympics. Is it a coincidence that after the 2008 Olympics he finally became a perinneal all defender? I think not sons.

:downspin:
Still no significant reply to the above. Especially the blue area. :lol

[Arnold Toht]

Once upon a time, there was this dude name LeBron James, who for almost a decade, he was fondly known as LeHype. You are probably asking how could that be because there isn't a statline he couldn't fill. You need 30pts, 12 asts, 8 rebs, 3 steals, 4 blocks - he was your man, 50-grand. However, no matter how many gaudy stats he would put up, he still couldn't...wait for it...WIN. In other words, the above bolded terms in the OP desribed him to a tee. Try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try (see what I did there - 8 times? :lol) as he must, he just couldn't get over the hump... So he decides to do the unthinkable. He did something equivalent of slapping his own mamma (wouldn't put it past him tbh :lol). He made The Decision! to collude with his two BFFs from the studly class of 2003. He just couldn't take being the above bolded terms in the OP any longer. He wanted to shed that choking label and he wanted to do it now. So what he couldn't get past Boston. He didn't want to pay his dues. He had an organization by their collective jock and bra straps. Anything he did, no matter how disrespectful or hideous, they would just smile, pat him on the back, and turn a blind eye to his shennangins. They spoiled him rotten.

He proceeded to take a wet dogshit on them anyway as he took his talents to South Beach and did so in front of millions upon millions of people. He didn't even have the balls to tell management face to face (cowardly tbh). Through his play, he was threatening to continue to be the above bolded terms in the OP again when Dirk decided to bitch slap him in the Finals. Naturally, panic began to set in. He found himself beginning to really own the above bolded terms in the OP. It was getting to him. You could tell as he passed up last second shot after last second shot for fear of failure (pathetic tbh). The world was caving in on him. There was nowhere to go...until Mike Miller went nuts the following year from the land of plenty (saving his ass) and Shane Battier + Ray Allen followed suit the following year. Now Big Daddy Kang can puff out his chest a little bit more. 2x champion that would finally shed the above bolded terms in the OP thanks to collusion with his BFFs... and a few savy vets.

/The End

:downspin:

Hands down, man down.

[Bill_Brasky]

Let's talk about leadership. Tammy gets all kinds of props for his leadership. What about the Olympics? He had LeBronze, Wade, and AI - on his team. No way in hell should they have not won gold. No fucking wayPERIOD. They were stacked, but like his marriage, Tammy was an Olympic failure.

Maybe they were missing something...a true leader who already won 3 rangs...let's delve into that, shall we?

It's 2008. Kobe is fresh off of an MVP season (should have won more, but white mediots are still holding Colorado against him, but I digress). After The Bronze! in 2004, American history was made in the worst way. Coach K called upon a 12-year NBA vet to save the U.S. Men's Olympic team. He had a 2-time chumpion that lead his NBA team to many 50-win teams, but without referee help, he could only muster a bronze medal. Enter Kobe Bean. Immediately in their first practice, Kobe set the tone. LeBronze and the crew followed. He practices as hard as he plays. It was to no one's surprise that they went on to win gold:

http://www.usab.com/photos/08_moly_bryant_bio_300.jpg

I'd even argue that Kobe taught LeBronze how to win. Prior to that 2008 Olympic team (for which Kobe was his teammate setting the tone) LeBronze had ZERO (http://www.nba.com/history/awards_defensiveteams.html)all defensive honors. It's true, LeBronze didn't win even one all defensive honor before he participated in the 2008 Olympics. Is it a coincidence that after the 2008 Olympics he finally became a perinneal all defender? I think not sons.

:downspin:

dude just be realistic. melo is cancer. he has done nothing of note in the playoffs. lebron taking 07 cavs to finals >>>> anything melon could ever dream of.

[scanry]

Let's talk about leadership. Tammy gets all kinds of props for his leadership. What about the Olympics? He had LeBronze, Wade, and AI - on his team. No way in hell should they have not won gold. No fucking wayPERIOD. They were stacked, but like his marriage, Tammy was an Olympic failure.

Maybe they were missing something...a true leader who already won 3 rangs...let's delve into that, shall we?

It's 2008. Kobe is fresh off of an MVP season (should have won more, but white mediots are still holding Colorado against him, but I digress). After The Bronze! in 2004, American history was made in the worst way. Coach K called upon a 12-year NBA vet to save the U.S. Men's Olympic team. He had a 2-time chumpion that lead his NBA team to many 50-win teams, but without referee help, he could only muster a bronze medal. Enter Kobe Bean. Immediately in their first practice, Kobe set the tone. LeBronze and the crew followed. He practices as hard as he plays. It was to no one's surprise that they went on to win gold:

http://www.usab.com/photos/08_moly_bryant_bio_300.jpg

I'd even argue that Kobe taught LeBronze how to win. Prior to that 2008 Olympic team (for which Kobe was his teammate setting the tone) LeBronze had ZERO (http://www.nba.com/history/awards_defensiveteams.html)all defensive honors. It's true, LeBronze didn't win even one all defensive honor before he participated in the 2008 Olympics. Is it a coincidence that after the 2008 Olympics he finally became a perinneal all defender? I think not sons.

:downspin:

You're kidding yourself if you think Kobe is even in the ball park of Lebron. The game is becoming more and more effortless for Lebron. One thing i've noticed about Kobe is that he's always had to work real hard to make an impact (except the 2008 & the 2009 season, he looked real comfortable during those two years). He trusted his teammates and his shot selection was much better.

Thinking Kobe taught a thing or two (especially defense) to Lebron? Son that's called flattery. BTW Lebron was already the better player by 2008.

[irishock]

(except the 2008 & the 2009 season, he looked real comfortable during those two years). He trusted his teammates and his shot selection was much better.


Agree, I thought Kobe had changed for good back then. Sad to see him start chucking like a fucking maniac ever since the lockout.

[spurraider21]

If LeBron learned his defense from Kobe, we'd see him "conserving energy for offense" a lot more

[scanry]

If LeBron learned his defense from Kobe, we'd see him "conserving energy for offense" a lot more

Unlike Kobe, Lebron didn't counterfeit another player's Jumper or a fadeaway or even a post game speech.

[LkrFan]

If LeBron learned his defense from Kobe, we'd see him "conserving energy for offense" a lot more
Did LeBron have ANY all defensive honors before the 2008 Olympics or not? I even posted a link that backs up my claim. And since i I know you are either going to dismiss my truth bomb or :downspin: it, I'm gonna be preemptive: -100 points son. SMH

[LkrFan]

If LeBron learned his defense from Kobe, we'd see him "conserving energy for offense" a lot more
Kobe was 1st team all defense by his 4th year (this after him inexcusably sitting behind Eddie Jones for two straight years). So I'd say he was able to teach LeBron a thing or too about defense. He was more than qualified. :tu

[Michael Jordan.]

Kobe was 1st team all defense by his 4th year (this after him inexcusably sitting behind Eddie Jones for two straight years). So I'd say he was able to teach LeBron a thing or too about defense. He was more than qualified. :tu

Naw. Even Phil said Kobe wasn't great on defense.

[LkrFan]

Naw. Even Phil said Kobe wasn't great on defense.
True or false? Pippen was a better defender than MJ.

[Michael Jordan.]

True or false? Pippen was a better defender than MJ.

Why do you deflect so much? :lol

[LkrFan]

Why do you deflect so much? :lol
:lol

[ambchang]

Still no significant reply to the above. Especially the blue area. :lol

USA wasn't a world power prior to WWII. Is it coincidence that USA learned to become a world power because they learned from the Nazis?

The reason you had no response earlier is because of how stupid it was.

[scanry]

True or false? Pippen was a better defender than MJ.

Pippen was the better defender by 1991. MJ however was the more decorated defensive player because he was always guarding the other team's best player and also because Pippen was too busy getting punked by Rodman and the Pistons.

[spurraider21]

Did LeBron have ANY all defensive honors before the 2008 Olympics or not? I even posted a link that backs up my claim. And since i I know you are either going to dismiss my truth bomb or :downspin: it, I'm gonna be preemptive: -100 points son. SMH

thats some shitty logic. maybe it was tashuan prince that inspired LeBron to play defense. he was on the 08 olympic team. maybe it was dwert. your assertion that "oh they were 2 of the 12 players on the same team so therefore it MUST have been kirby to teach him" is retarded. maybe it was coach K... retarded assumption leading to a retarded conclusion

[spurraider21]

Kobe was 1st team all defense by his 4th year (this after him inexcusably sitting behind Eddie Jones for two straight years). So I'd say he was able to teach LeBron a thing or too about defense. He was more than qualified. :tu
we also know darn well that kobe got a lot of fantom all-defense nominations later in his career. while kirby was actually a good defender during the shaq era (probably because offense didn't require as much energy while shaq was getting tripled), his defense faded afterwards. he still got fantom nominations as late as 2012

[LkrFan]

USA wasn't a world power prior to WWII. Is it coincidence that USA learned to become a world power because they learned from the Nazis?

The reason you had no response earlier is because of how stupid it was.
Yet you and your fat fingers typed up a response anyway. Says a lot about you tbh. :lol

[LkrFan]

Why do you deflect so much? :lol
OK, I'm woke now... Fact: LBJ received no all defensive honors prior to the Olympics. Fact: LeBron lead the Cavs to be 7x losers. Fact: LeBronze earned his nickname in '04. Fact: Kobe has no bronze medals. Fact: Kobe was on the 1st team by his 22nd birthday and remained there for 7 years - prior to the '08 Olympics. Fact: Coach K was quoted as saying Kobe set the tone during their first practice in '08.

So it is reasonable for me make the correct Scientific assumption that Kobe showed LeBron how to win. Fact is, before the '08 Olympics - for which Kobe, was already a 3x NBA champion who just so happened to have 7 all defensive nominations too - indeed taught LeBron that defense wins championships. LBJ got another Finals beat down (on a stacked team I might add) by _irk since then, but afterwards he hasn't loss since. He can thank Kobe for that tbh. ;)

[LkrFan]

Pippen was the better defender by 1991. MJ however was the more decorated defensive player because he was always guarding the other team's best player and also because Pippen was too busy getting punked by Rodman and the Pistons.
I'd say Pip was a better defender by '89. He just wasn't good enough offensively to help MJ get past the Bad Boys that year.

[LkrFan]

BNSFags know darn well that kobe got a lot of fantom all-defense nominations later in his career. while kirby was actually a good defender during the shaq era (probably because offense didn't require as much energy while shaq was getting tripled), his defense faded afterwards. he still got fantom nominations as late as 2012
FIFY. Good thing the people who actually vote for these awards are not Laker hating Southwest Texas farmers, huh? :lol

[spurraider21]

FIFY. Good thing the people who actually vote for these awards are not Laker hating Southwest Texas farmers, huh? :lol
i don't live in texas. i actually live in LA so i watch essentially all laker/clipper games as well. teams with quick backcourts have given the lakers fits for years because both kirby and fisher would get smoked. whatever, i don't expect good takes from a be@ner kobestan anyway

[LkrFan]

i don't live in texas. i actually live in LA so i watch essentially all laker/clipper games as well. teams with quick backcourts have given the lakers fits for years because both kirby and fisher would get smoked. whatever, i don't expect good takes from a be@ner kobestan anyway
Don't matter where you're at. You're a Spur Fan? Then by natural law you are a farmer. ;)

:lol @ you still thinking I'm Hispanic. I'm a smart dude. I took Spanish in Middle and High School quite sometime ago. Because someone can speak Spanish, that means they're Hispanic. No ¿muy brillante, ¿verdad? :lol

[ambchang]

Yet you and your fat fingers typed up a response anyway. Says a lot about you tbh. :lol

I like talking to stupid people, it's like a form of charity.

[spurraider21]

Don't matter where you're at. You're a Spur Fan? Then by natural law you are a farmer. ;)

:lol @ you still thinking I'm Hispanic. I'm a smart dude. I took Spanish in Middle and High School quite sometime ago. Because someone can speak Spanish, that means they're Hispanic. No ¿muy brillante, ¿verdad? :lol
if you are a Lakerfan, then by natural law you are hispanic ;)

[LkrFan]

if you are a Lakerfan, then by natural law you are hispanic ;)

:lol - that's my schtick. Get your own son. :nope

[spurraider21]

:lol - that's my schtick. Get your own son. :nope
just because your own faggoty logic applies to yourself doesn't mean its invalid