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m>s
10-17-2013, 02:21 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/tea-party-science-98488.html?hp=r3

:lmao all you self righteous fucks who talk shit about how dumb conservatives are can go fist yourselves in your hypocritical asses
AntiChrist
10-17-2013, 02:37 PM
I’ve got to confess, though, I found this result surprising. As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I’d be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension,” Kahan wrote.

“But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the Tea Party,” he continued. “All my impressions come from watching cable tv...
ChumpDumper
10-17-2013, 03:01 PM
What do they know about credit unions?
MannyIsGod
10-17-2013, 03:20 PM
http://www.culturalcognition.net/storage/tpscic.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=138185898400 5


The findings met the conventional threshold of statistical significance, the professor said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/tea-party-science-98488.html#ixzz2i0pa6lLC


Significance? Nope. I also didn't read on the prof's post where he said they were significant. That's a pretty weak correlation. According to the P value they are significant the 95 percentile but with the r value is so fucking tiny that its absolutely meaningless.
MannyIsGod
10-17-2013, 03:28 PM
I will say this, the quote Darrin posted makes this guy seem like a tool and him being "surprised" by a meaningless statistic is even more damning. If I tried to claim significance with an rsquared value of 0.025 with any of my work I'd be a fool.
scott
10-17-2013, 03:39 PM
I will say this, the quote Darrin posted makes this guy seem like a tool and him being "surprised" by a meaningless statistic is even more damning. If I tried to claim significance with an rsquared value of 0.025 with any of my work I'd be a fool.

What he actually said:


Next time I collect data, too, I won't be surprised at all if the correlations between science comprehension and political ideology or identification with the Tea Party movement disappear or flip their signs. These effects are trivially small, & if I sample 2000+ people it's pretty likely any discrepancy I see will be "statistically significant"--which has precious little to do with "practically significant."
MannyIsGod
10-17-2013, 03:39 PM
Oh, one last thing. M>S fails per usual. The comparison was between tea party members and non tea party members not liberals. I don't think you should claim scientific literacy until you at least learn to read, TBH.
ChumpDumper
10-17-2013, 03:40 PM
His blog comes across snarky like a liberal DarrinS.
MannyIsGod
10-17-2013, 03:40 PM
What he actually said:

That's better I guess. But then why claim to be surprised at all?
scott
10-17-2013, 03:49 PM
That's better I guess. But then why claim to be surprised at all?

He's a law professor with a blog, not Nate Silver.
MannyIsGod
10-17-2013, 03:55 PM
He's a law professor with a blog, not Nate Silver.

Would an economics professor with a blog have been surprised?
101A
10-17-2013, 04:03 PM
The thing I find interesting is how sheltered this guy is. He doesn't know ANYONE who associates with the tea party? Needs to get out more.
scott
10-17-2013, 04:06 PM
Would an economics professor with a blog have been surprised?

I don't think an economics professor with a blog would have thought one way or another about such a weak correlation.

Edit: but no, I would not have been surprised to find that in a sample of 2,000, the raw outcome showed any group higher than any other
ChumpDumper
10-17-2013, 04:08 PM
The thing I find interesting is how sheltered this guy is. He doesn't know ANYONE who associates with the tea party? Needs to get out more.I don't know if I personally know any. Plenty of conservatives, not tea partiers. Maybe I should meet more scientists.
101A
10-17-2013, 04:15 PM
I don't know if I personally know any. Plenty of conservatives, not tea partiers. Maybe I should meet more scientists.

He's an academic; should actively seek differing points of view, and avoid echo chambers. I think the prof. is happy in his.
scott
10-17-2013, 04:17 PM
Maybe all the Tea Partiers go to Princeton and Harvard Law instead
MannyIsGod
10-17-2013, 04:21 PM
Maybe all the Tea Partiers go to Princeton and Harvard Law instead

Obviously all the Tea Partiers go to MIT and Cal Tech.
scott
10-17-2013, 04:23 PM
Obviously all the Tea Partiers go to MIT and Cal Tech.

Way to T Park up a Ted Cruz joke, Manny.
boobie4three
10-17-2013, 06:50 PM
I guess this is as good a time as any to reveal who I really am.

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Nbadan
10-17-2013, 07:40 PM
Maybe all the Tea Partiers go to Princeton and Harvard Law instead

!!Warning!!
Insignificant Ted Cruz Joke Crossing
pgardn
10-18-2013, 08:11 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/tea-party-science-98488.html?hp=r3

:lmao all you self righteous fucks who talk shit about how dumb conservatives are can go fist yourselves in your hypocritical asses

Smarter than libs in science...

This is such a twisted conclusion; but it fits a wannabe nazi brain perfectly.