Preseason Game Thread: 10/19/13 Spurs vs Heat

[RD2191]

nice fucking going chip

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol Spurs fans with the preseason excuses already, tbh..

boiled down to:

duncan: 4 (as an alpha)
wade: 3 (2 as a beta bitch)

wade is compared to parker or manu.. ain't on TD's level and never will be

[rogues]

boiled down to:

duncan: 4 (as an alpha)
wade: 3 (2 as a beta bitch)

wade is compared to parker or manu.. ain't on TD's level and never will be
Lebron > any Spurs player ever:lol..

[ElNono]

lol ndc

[loveforthegame]

NDC sucks. :bang

[ElNono]

well, if we make it that far again, I think the finals against the Nets is going to be interesting...

[DapDaGenius]

Why are the Spurs so focused on wasting money/roster spots on foreign trash?

[RD2191]

Lebron > any Spurs player ever:lol..
lebron will always be a bitch, mike never left, duncan never left, dirk never left, lebron left.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Lebron > any Spurs player ever:lol..

Lebron is the best in the world right now. And Miami pried him from the cold dead grip
of America's anus, to be on your team.

[r0drig0lac]

well, if we make it that far again, I think the finals against the Nets is going to be interesting...
2 ... but the bank of nets and perhaps one of the most stacked in the history ... logically about the competition of the season

[rogues]

ElNono making the same mistake of the last couple of years, tbh..picking against the Heat..you haven't learned yet boy?..

[ElNono]

2...mas o banco dos nets e talvez um dos mais empilhados da historia ... logicamente em relação a competição da temporada

obrigado

[Strategic]

well, if we make it that far again, I think the finals against the Nets is going to be interesting...That's if the Nets can beat the Pacers in the eastern finals.

[ElNono]

ElNono making the same mistake of the last couple of years, tbh..picking against the Heat..you haven't learned yet boy?..

is that you, Norris Cole? :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Lebron > any Spurs player ever:lol..

he was not better than tim duncan in his prime. you guys couldn't even contain him at 37 years old. duncan is a better leader and teammate than lebitch.. just being real.

greatest PF of all time.. lebron isn't even the greatest at his position... bird > lebron.. he's also not better than gervin ;) which is a spurs player

[r0drig0lac]

Spurs with an old duncan = seconds to win the season against a prime .. lebron, imagine a prime duncan what would this serie ... Spurs 4-0 easily ... lebron better than any spurs my bag

[GB20]

we have so much dead weight in this team

nando, bonner ,cory , mill and manu

[Budkin]

CROFL at the preseason meltdowns

[ElNono]

Manu with another great game... hope he keeps it going when the season starts

[r0drig0lac]

Bonner garbage time in a game of pre season, however only when the opponent leads with 20 points ahead .. lol

[RD2191]

we have so much dead weight in this team

nando, bonner ,cory , mill and manu
was thinking the same thing cept for manu

[ElNono]

The Heat is a great team, tbh... worthy b2b champs... not sold on the Nets yet, but they could be pretty good. Indiana will fold, IMO.

[RD2191]

i know everyone laughed but i thought we should of brought livio over, why the fuck are we waiting to develop talent?

[ElNono]

nwalweleleelel

[Johnny RIngo]

Heat got better this off-season. Spurs got worse. lol @ SA for overpaying for a washed-up Argy and a soft Brazillian. Still don't understand why SA values trash foreign players like these guys after seeing how beastly a young American player like Leonard was last year. So much foreign trash on this team right now. DeColo's the worst though. The fucker isn't even good enough for most Euroleague teams and he has a NBA roster spot. Hilarious.

SA will be a 2nd round exit this year. Heat will three-peat.

[Uriel]

The Spurs are pathetic, responding to the most devastating loss in franchise history by getting destroyed by a LeBron-less Heat in Game 8. :bang

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Heat got better this off-season. Spurs got worse. lol @ SA for overpaying for a washed-up Argy and a soft Brazillian. Still don't understand why SA values trash foreign players like these guys after seeing how beastly a young American player like Leonard was last year. So much foreign trash on this team right now. DeColo's the worst though. The fucker isn't even good enough for most Euroleague teams and he has a NBA roster spot. Hilarious.

SA will be a 2nd round exit this year. Heat will three-peat.

Why are you basing so much off a preseason game? Parker shot the ball four times, and Ginobili went 3-4 from three. We have a lot of questions answered today. For instance, Leonard is ready to break out. We learned that Belinelli can step up offensively and Baynes can keep up with an elite NBA team. We also learned that Joseph is still a bit green and may not be ready to get a lot of minutes in a meaningful playoff game.

[r0drig0lac]

Heat got better this off-season. Spurs got worse. lol @ SA for overpaying for a washed-up Argy and a soft Brazillian. Still don't understand why SA values trash foreign players like these guys after seeing how beastly a young American player like Leonard was last year. So much foreign trash on this team right now. DeColo's the worst though. The fucker isn't even good enough for most Euroleague teams and he has a NBA roster spot. Hilarious.

SA will be a 2nd round exit this year. Heat will three-peat.
mad?

[Robz4000]

The Heat is a great team, tbh... worthy b2b champs... not sold on the Nets yet, but they could be pretty good. Indiana will fold, IMO.

I still say the Nets fall apart by the end of the season while Indy gets it together.

[rogues]

The only true niggas on the Spurs is Duncan and Leonard..one will retire soon and the other will leave just in time to avoid sinking down with that ship, tbh..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The only true niggas on the Spurs is Duncan and Leonard..one will retire soon and the other will leave just in time to avoid sinking down with that ship, tbh..

parker is the best pg in the league tbh

[Johnny RIngo]

Why are you basing so much off a preseason game? Parker shot the ball four times, and Ginobili went 3-4 from three. We have a lot of questions answered today. For instance, Leonard is ready to break out. We learned that Belinelli can step up offensively and Baynes can keep up with an elite NBA team. We also learned that Joseph is still a bit green and may not be ready to get a lot of minutes in a meaningful playoff game.

Manu's old as fuck and has been a terrible playoff performer the past two years. Odds on him being healthy all year aren't good. TD"s an all-time great but he can't carry the frontcourt forever. If only Tiago wasn't such a bust. Good defender but can't do anything else. Parker's the youngest of the big three but we already saw last season that he couldn't stay healthy the entire NBA season plus post-season. Fatigue got to him and he disappointed throughout the Finals. Playing off-season ball with France is going to bite him in the ass this year.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Manu's old as fuck and has been a terrible playoff performer the past two years. Odds on him being healthy all year aren't good. TD"s an all-time great but he can't carry the frontcourt forever. If only Tiago wasn't such a bust. Good defender but can't do anything else. Parker's the youngest of the big three but we already saw last season that he couldn't stay healthy the entire NBA season plus post-season. Fatigue got to him and he disappointed throughout the Finals. Playing off-season ball with France is going to bite him in the ass this year.

dude parker had a fantastic playoffs. he averaged like 25 points and 13 assists in the Grizzlies series tbh.. if we wouldn't have choked he would have been the mvp probably if not duncan

[tmtcsc]

Lol at anyone trying to learn anything from a preseason game. Not sold on Heat making a 4th consecutive trip to finals...but I hope they do and I hope the Spurs play them again. B2B champs because the Spurs gifted the title to them. Not mad just honest.

[ElNono]

Tony will be fine... he just needs to use this season to get ready to play for France next summer... I think he'll be fine.

[RD2191]

Tony will be fine... he just needs to use this season to get ready to play for France next summer... I think he'll be fine.
:lol

[r0drig0lac]

Tony will be fine... he just needs to use this season to get ready to play for France next summer... I think he'll be fine.
9/10

[tmtcsc]

Parker's the second youngest of the big three but we already saw last season that he couldn't stay healthy the entire NBA season plus post-season. Fatigue got to him and he disappointed throughout the Finals. Playing off-season ball with France is going to bite him in the ass this year.

fify. Manu isn't big 3 anymore.

[GB20]

The only true niggas on the Spurs is Duncan and Leonard..one will retire soon and the other will leave just in time to avoid sinking down with that ship, tbh..
becareful pal if lebron left once, he can do it again

[Johnny RIngo]

dude parker had a fantastic playoffs. he averaged like 25 points and 13 assists in the Grizzlies series tbh.. if we wouldn't have choked he would have been the mvp probably if not duncan

Yeah, Parker had his best playoff run...until the Finals. His injuries last year were obviously fatigue-related. Expect him to be worse this season during the playoffs(if he can even last that long).

[Johnny RIngo]

B2B champs because Manu gifted the title to them. Not mad just honest.

fify

[Johnny RIngo]

was thinking the same thing cept for manu

Washed-up Manu on a 14 mil contract was dead weight. Washed up Manu on a 7 mil contract isn't that bad but it's still overpaying for him. 5 milllion would have been more than fair.

[ElNono]

I'm glad we got Manu locked up for two more seasons. As I said, I expect the FO to offer a contract extension by Mid-Season... he looks in great shape, tbh

[Johnny RIngo]

Injured players don't get contract extensions.

[ElNono]

Manu did.

[HI-FI]

Injured players don't get contract extensions.
that's because most players don't have a legion of third worlders worshiping them. if Manu was American, we would've gotten a much better deal on him.

[ElNono]

Anyways, was great to see Manu as backup PG again. :tu

[ElNono]

that's because most players don't have a legion of third worlders worshiping them. if Manu was American, we would've gotten a much better deal on him.

I still think the Spurs can have him handing out chalupas at the AT&T entrance once he retires. I think that would get some more people to the games, tbh...

[HI-FI]

I still think the Spurs can have him handing out chalupas at the AT&T entrance once he retires. I think that would get some more people to the games, tbh...
:lol
sad but true. dude is going to most likely run as a politician, i could see him being the most worshiped dictator yet in that region. CIA might have to do what PATFO could not....

[ElNono]

:lol
sad but true. dude is going to most likely run as a politician, i could see him being the most worshiped dictator yet in that region. CIA might have to do what PATFO could not....

Dunno about that. Would be difficult for him to pass up $5m a season for handing out chalupas...

[HI-FI]

Dunno about that. Would be difficult for him to pass up $5m a season for handing out chalupas...

Hope no one from FO is reading this idea.

[ElNono]

Hope no one from FO is reading this idea.

Where do you think I got the idea from? :lol

[HI-FI]

http://img.pandawhale.com/60951-Popovich-Facepalm-Pops-frettin-Hiun.gif

[mrjap2x]

How was Leonard's performance?

[ElNono]

How was Leonard's performance?

He was great, but he didn't play much.

[mrjap2x]

He was great, but he didn't play much.

Do you think his play is sustainable?

[ElNono]

Do you think his play is sustainable?

hope so. rooting for him

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Do you think his play is sustainable?

I think it can get better. Once he realizes that he can take most fools off the dribble because of his burst, he will settle for less 18 footers.

[bklynspursfan]

Washed-up Manu on a 14 mil contract was dead weight. Washed up Manu on a 7 mil contract isn't that bad but it's still overpaying for him. 5 milllion would have been more than fair.

Throughout his time here, he could've gotten more if he wanted in his prime. So the fact that he got what he did now just shows the mutual respect from both sides. 5 million would not have been fair to Manu for all he's done for the Spurs.

[mrjap2x]

Nice to see kawhi being able to play great.

[ElNono]

Do you think his play is sustainable?


hope so. rooting for him

[200 miles]

I wonder if rogues will change his favorite team from the Heat to the Lakers next season tbh.

[racm]

The concern with Whiwhi has never been consistency but health IMO.

[mrjap2x]

The concern with Whiwhi has never been consistency but health IMO.
Is that knee gonna be along term problem?

[racm]

Is that knee gonna be along term problem?

It shouldn't be with proper care. The Spurs medical staff is good enough.

[Skull-1]

Why are you basing so much off a preseason game? Parker shot the ball four times, and Ginobili went 3-4 from three. We have a lot of questions answered today. For instance, Leonard is ready to break out. We learned that Belinelli can step up offensively and Baynes can keep up with an elite NBA team. We also learned that Joseph is still a bit green and may not be ready to get a lot of minutes in a meaningful playoff game.


And Manu is gonna jack up threes again all season...clang.

watch that percentage go into the cellar fast.

[Skull-1]

dude parker had a fantastic playoffs. he averaged like 25 points and 13 assists in the Grizzlies series tbh.. if we wouldn't have choked he would have been the mvp probably if not duncan
And fell apart at the end.

[Skull-1]

Tony will be fine... he just needs to use this season to get ready to play for France next summer... I think he'll be fine.
:rollin

[Skull-1]

fify. Manu isn't big 3 anymore.. True. Leonard is though.

[Skull-1]

that's because most players don't have a legion of third worlders worshiping them. if Manu was American, we would've gotten a much better deal on him.
Boom.

[Sean Cagney]

pretty much. I'd say the anger has become less, but occasionally I think about the blown chances and it still stings to a certain degree. Props to Parker for admitting that shit will bother him til he's dead. It's only human to think about what could've been. In the end Miami was the better team, but since so much of their team depends on the freakishness of Lebron and we're more system based and solidly built, I hope the law of averages works in our favor.
Yep, you know you got the rings but you always think about the ONE that got away more at times for some reason. I am sure when Tony retires he will have some closure and realize he did well in his career and has 3 (Hopefully 4 by the time got willing) rings and can smile some. He though will think about the one that got away too as most will. I feel bad for Leonard and Green and others who played their butt off and never got a ring, that must be devistating to be so close to a ring for the young guys and then BOOM since they don't know if they will ever be back and they basically had it.

[Skull-1]

The only true niggas on the Spurs is Duncan and Leonard..one will retire soon and the other will leave just in time to avoid sinking down with that ship, tbh..


I will be a fan of any team Leonard is on, even if it is The Lakers. Dude deserves a ring and I hope he gets it after he leaves SA, because he isn't getting one as a Spur if Manu has anything to do with it.

[Kyl3]

Went to the game tonight. While 96 isn't a really bad final score, if I didn't look at the scoreboard the whole game, I could have sworn the spurs were well below 80. Just a bad game overall, especially with Miami shooting so well. Kawhi looked fantastic though with 17 points in only 12 minutes. Was scared when I saw him sitting on the bench with knee bags on for the rest of the game.

[HI-FI]

Went to the game tonight. While 96 isn't a really bad final score, if I didn't look at the scoreboard the whole game, I could have sworn the spurs were well below 80. Just a bad game overall, especially with Miami shooting so well. Kawhi looked fantastic though with 17 points in only 12 minutes. Was scared when I saw him sitting on the bench with knee bags on for the rest of the game.
they showed him later with no knee bags on, and in the previous game, TD and TP had ice bags too.

from listening to RC's comments, it sounds like the tendonitis was there since college and because of the shortened season, never had time to properly deal with it. so I'm sure Pop will try to gauge it as well as he can.

[Ice009]

Heat got better this off-season. Spurs got worse. lol @ SA for overpaying for a washed-up Argy and a soft Brazillian. Still don't understand why SA values trash foreign players like these guys after seeing how beastly a young American player like Leonard was last year. So much foreign trash on this team right now. DeColo's the worst though. The fucker isn't even good enough for most Euroleague teams and he has a NBA roster spot. Hilarious.

SA will be a 2nd round exit this year. Heat will three-peat.

Like I've said before - Nando, is living someone else's dream. He shouldn't even be in the NBA.

[Ice009]

parker is the best pg in the league tbh

I know it is a preseason game, but TP seems to play like trash against the Heat. The only two guys that you can count on to show up against them consistently is Duncan and Leonard. That's not really good enough from the rest of the players on the team.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I know it is a preseason game, but TP seems to play like trash against the Heat. The only two guys that you can count on to show up against them consistently is Duncan and Leonard. That's not really good enough from the rest of the players on the team.

The Heat's entire gameplan is to take Parker out. They end up playing a 3-2 zone because they double Parker with Bosh and Cole/Chalmers or put Lebron on him. They are able to get away with it because Bosh is one of if not the best perimeter defending bigs in the NBA. He is a popular guy to pile on but without him they don't make the Finals much less beat us. James is a once in a gneration talent. It also helps that the refs let Cole and Chalmers push pull and ride him. It's playoff basketball so be it.

If they are going to do that and hide Allen/Wade and Haslem/Anderson on Leonard and Duncan than you have to make them pay. You can rotate help to one but you cannot do it to both. With a guy like Green, Belli or Manu with his head on straight they can make rotations even more difficult. I have a feeling this year, should that happen, Leonard is going to have a field day. Post up Wade and just have your way with Allen.

[Baam]

Spolstra is outcoaching Pop once again, nothing to see here... Said the tosb should have retired...

The Spurs got weaker this season, it is what it is, I agree with the second round exit at best predictions.

[Baam]

Spoelstra is now 2-0 without LeBron vs Pop and the big 3, that's pure outcoaching... Pop is done but nobody wants to hear it...

[Baseline]

I'm disappointed. I thought the Spurs would use this opportunity to hatchet murder Popovich at the scene of his greatest crime - like at midcourt. And of course, that they would let Tim finish him off with the last swing...because Pop doesn't allow him to finish. But hey...no such luck.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Spolstra is outcoaching Pop once again, nothing to see here... Said the tosb should have retired...

The Spurs got weaker this season, it is what it is, I agree with the second round exit at best predictions.

Well, I now have you pegged at least.

Spoelestra used the same sets he did last year. We didn't adjust at all while we trotted out that zone to tinker with.

What I want to know where that zone came from. Diaw and Baynes made a couple of adjustmenst so you could tell they've been coached in it.

Spurs press corps: I'm giving you a good story to write and even your sorry asses can figure out who to interview.

[siraulo23]

TP needs to take a break, he wont get there as whole if the spurs go deep in the POs again

Kawhi looked good, what limits him is his poor passing and decision making, but he's already showed promise in that area vs nuggets and heat, he just needs to play, play, play and go through the learning process

[Bruno]

It's a little surprising to see Bonner being that down in the rotation while Spurs decided to pay $3M to keep him. $3M for a 6th big is a damn lot of money.
Maybe Pop/Spurs didn't expected to see Baynes and Ayres at that level, maybe the depth chart will change during the regular season or maybe Spurs want to use Bonner's expiring contract at the trade deadline, we'll see...

De Colo nightmare preseason continue with now a combined 7/25 from the field. He is better than that and he is in great shape after the Eurobasket so he shouldn't play poorly. Maybe it's mental and he has given up.

With De Colo sucking, Maggette and Young cut, Spurs are really thin at SG/SF. They are a Manu injury away to only have 3 decent SG/SF on their roster. Alternate solutions like Diaw at SF or playing with two PGs doesn't sound very promising. This lack of depth is a little worrying.

[hyhy]

It's a little surprising to see Bonner being that down in the rotation while Spurs decided to pay $3M to keep him. $3M for a 6th big is a damn lot of money.
Maybe Pop/Spurs didn't expected to see Baynes and Ayres at that level, maybe the depth chart will change during the regular season or maybe Spurs want to use Bonner's expiring contract at the trade deadline, we'll see...

De Colo nightmare preseason continue with now a combined 7/25 from the field. He is better than that and he is in great shape after the Eurobasket so he shouldn't play poorly. Maybe it's mental and he has given up.

With De Colo sucking, Maggette and Young cut, Spurs are really thin at SG/SF. They are a Manu injury away to only have 3 decent SG/SF on their roster. Alternate solutions like Diaw at SF or playing with two PGs doesn't sound very promising. This lack of depth is a little worrying.

I think they know what to expect from bonner, so nth much to see him in the preseason.

[ace3g]

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[Bruno]

I think they know what to expect from bonner, so nth much to see him in the preseason.

You can say the same for a lot of other Spurs players and they are playing more than Bonner.

[Skull-1]

You can say the same for a lot of other Spurs players and they are playing more than Bonner.
:lmao

[mountainballer]

It's a little surprising to see Bonner being that down in the rotation while Spurs decided to pay $3M to keep him. $3M for a 6th big is a damn lot of money.
Maybe Pop/Spurs didn't expected to see Baynes and Ayres at that level, maybe the depth chart will change during the regular season or maybe Spurs want to use Bonner's expiring contract at the trade deadline, we'll see...


IMO this all makes sense. Bonner is the only trade asset Spurs might be able to turn into something without losing much. Bonner is the only expiring contract with some salary potential outside Diaw and Diaw is more improtant at this point. so, if the Spurs see a big enough probablility that they will trade Bonner, it does make much senso to already install a Bonner less rotation. or, at least, test it.

[Hoops Czar]

I actually shouldn't be surprised the Spurs were clowned from beyond the arc. Now that Manu, Belinelli and Mills are a part of the perimeter rotation, looks like they'll get clowned from deep a lot this season.

[ace3g]

Shots fired!!!

Jeff Ayres says Heat players were ‘trying to take out his knees’ during preseason game vs. Spurs (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/jeff-ayres-says-heat-players-were-trying-to-take-out-his-knees-during-preseason-game-vs-spurs/)

Ayres felt no love lost in Miami after switching to the Spurs.
“That’s what it felt like,” Ayres said. “People were trying to take out my knees and stuff. I was like, it’s preseason take a chill pill.”



http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/jeff-ayres-says-heat-players-were-trying-to-take-out-his-knees-during-preseason-game-vs-spurs/

[RD2191]

:ihit

[Hoops Czar]

Ayres played a total of 4 minutes and 46 seconds against the Heat in the playoffs. I'm sure it was nothing personal against Ayres. I don't think most players on Miami even know who he is and they probably don't care.

[Russ]

Shots fired!!!

Jeff Ayres says Heat players were ‘trying to take out his knees’ during preseason game vs. Spurs.

This guy sounds like a drama queen -- changing his name after he's traded for some family reason, claiming that he's significant enough that someone would try to injure him.

An odd fit for the Spurs perhaps? :rolleyes

Hopefully, he'll just shut up and play well.

[PlayNando]

This guy sounds like a drama queen -- changing his name after he's traded for some family reason, claiming that he's significant enough that someone would try to injure him.

An odd fit for the Spurs perhaps? :rolleyes

Hopefully, he'll just shut up and play well.
Cut his scrubby ass, I say! No room on the Spurs' roster for this time of hatred!

[Fireball]

I really disliked what I saw of Patty Mills this game ... that was chucking up shots at its worst. Despite his new fitness I think he should be the towel waver, CoJo is our back-up and Nando can fill in at times (he will not shoot this bad all season I suppose).

[D-Wade]

LOL @ this thread. It's just preseason. Even D-Wade's performance I'm not gonna get too high on. He looked solid back as the #1 option but he was mostly having his way against Spurs backups. Tbd if he's actually healthy and back. And Pendergraph is a punk but perhaps just the guy y'all need whether you face us or a team like Indy (w/David West &Scola) or the Nets (w/KG, Evans and Blatche). He's the opposite of Splitter.

[elmanutres]

After the drama from last season I wish we can just skip straight to the playoffs

[xmas1997]

LOL @ this thread. It's just preseason. Even D-Wade's performance I'm not gonna get too high on. He looked solid back as the #1 option but he was mostly having his way against Spurs backups. Tbd if he's actually healthy and back. And Pendergraph is a punk but perhaps just the guy y'all need whether you face us or a team like Indy (w/David West &Scola) or the Nets (w/KG, Evans and Blatche). He's the opposite of Splitter.

He changed his name to Ayers now. I think because his other name was too hard for the Heat to say/spell.
As for Wade, what happens when he fails his peds test?