Ethnic Cleansing

[SequSpur]

Who will be the first country to start? Not saying this should be done, but are Mosques the first to go and the people within them?

[scott]

Start? Do you mean "be next"? I'd be hard pressed to bet against an eastern European nation.

[exstatic]

Read a history of Yugoslavia. The Serbs had that shit down to a science. Of course, they're all on trial now, so EC does have consequences....

[SequSpur]

My buddy were talking about this today while we were golfing......

When is the next time some fuckhead blows something up in the US?

[SequSpur]

Watching this shit in London, Egypt, Iraq, etc. etc. is making me fucking sick.

[Nbadan]

Africa - What do I win?


:hat

[SWC Bonfire]

Africa - What do I win?


:hat

Um... Africa is a continent, not a country. You could have at least stated a region (sub-sarahan Africa hasn't been a great place to be lately).

[Cant_Be_Faded]

america was pretty good at it when they told people they were takign care of the big bad Indian problem

[SWC Bonfire]

america was pretty good at it when they told people they were takign care of the big bad Indian problem

Hey, let's be like Middle Easterners and bring up crap from hundreds of years ago as if it's relevant today...:rolleyes

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Hey, let's be like Middle Easterners and bring up crap from hundreds of years ago as if it's relevant today...:rolleyes



What do you mean by relevant?

If by relevant you mean having no impact or effect in today's world, then yes i will be 'like a middle easterner' because it does have a lingering effect today...if people accepted mass murder on their own soil back then (not even that long ago by 'middle easterner' standards) then its not like we can't do it again. Listen to what people like whottt and TRO are saying in the terrorist thread....they dont give a fuck if we start bombing and killing terorist families and nuking their holy sites, etc.....values get passed down veritcally and horizontally, and a large portion of the people who blindly and ignorantly accepted mass murder in america have many decendants in today's america...

people who might just accept anti-liberty edicts and laws and regulations and mass murder in any country...even our own

not relevant? So what is this clearly defined line seperating a time of relevancy and non-relevancy that you seem to know all so well??

hundreds of years ago??? well technically you are right, because it was about 200 years ago when shit like this happened...and if you think real hard about it, thats only like 3 human lifespans...

3 or 4 human lifespans is the blink of an eye in human history

not relevant?

[JoeChalupa]

If we forget the past we are bound to repeat it.
I for one have no desire to forget how the Native people were treated or about slavery.

[SWC Bonfire]

So what are you saying, because my ancestors fought Indians that makes me want to go burn down a mosque? That has no bearing on my actions.

If you are so offended by the possession of land "taken" from the Indians, I invite you to find someplace or country that didn't "belong" to someone else first.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

So what are you saying, because my ancestors fought Indians that makes me want to go burn down a mosque? That has no bearing on my actions.



1) Wrong. Actions are behavior. Behavior is a product of 2 things:

Genetics and Environment.

Everything you were brought up to know, do, think, whoever raised you, was raised by someone, who was raised by someone, who more than likely accepted this (maybe not actively but passively is acceptance too)

these values and ideals passed on to you all have an effect on your behavior, whether you accept it or not.

It doesnt necessarily predetermine your behavior, but it does play a part in determining it




If you are so offended by the possession of land "taken" from the Indians, I invite you to find someplace or country that didn't "belong" to someone else first.

2) There is not a single atom in my body or idea in my brain that doesnt think this is a racist, ignorant, stupid stupid stupid remark.
I'm so offended by land "taken" from indians??

Why the quotation marks, SWC? Huh? Why is it "taken" and not taken?

you are an ignorant

The land was TAKEN, and there is no sarcasm or joking about it, but more importantly, life was TAKEN.
Like it was just said, individuals ignorant enough about their past are bound to repeat it. this works on an individual level but also on a society level.

There is no joking or me being a liberal tree hugger about it...its the fact that americans slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people, i never once brought up the issue about "being here first"

in fact, with such a stupid ass remark, you have supported my #1 response

[scott]

Native Americans have casinos and cheap tabacco. We have repented.

[jochhejaam]

Who will be the first country to start? Not saying this should be done, but are Mosques the first to go and the people within them?

Muslims from around the world have built millions of mosques and their population is well over 1 billion so that's not gonna happen.

What I see as a major global concern in regards to ethnic cleansing is the faction of Muslims that refer to themselves as Militant Muslims. There objective or creed is to convert the world to Islam, by force if necessary.

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/8889

[The Ressurrected One]

I think until you either eliminate or dissuade those Muslims that are hoping for a global Islamic Caliphate, you'll be dealing with these bugs.

[SequSpur]

How do you distinguish them from sleeper cells?

[smeagol]

There objective or creed is to convert the world to Islam, by force if necessary.
Isn't Christianity's Creed to try to convert the whole World too?

Didn't they use force in the past?

[jochhejaam]

[
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Isn't Christianity's Creed to try to convert the whole World too?

Didn't they use force in the past?[/B]

By force? NO!! The past? Go for it.

Muslim Militantsand extremists: "We will convert the world to Islam, if necessary by force".

Christianity: Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Christianity: Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Christianity:For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.

Notice any similarities? I hope not because there are none!!
The means of conversion are diametrically opposed.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

jochhejaam is an ignorant, flash, its useless

[exstatic]

Christians always deny their violent past. Makes it easier to chuck stones at other religions that are still going through their growing pains. Maybe in 4 or 5 hundred years, Muslims will only be bombing the occasional abortion clinic or shooting a doctor.

[jochhejaam]

during the crusades, christians(catholics) went to constantinople and killed, slaughtered other christians(orthodox) by mistake, thinking they were muslim....even though they had crosses everywhere......

during the spanish inquistion more than 20,000 jews, and muslims were killed because they would not convert.

in winston-salem numerous "witches" were hanged in the name of god (puritans)

in the early days of christianity circa 370, chirstians that believed jesus was god, would murder other christians that thought jesus was the hebrew messiah, but not god. they would find these people, drag them into their churches, rip their clothes off and skin them alive...in the church.......very holy indeed.


then circa 470 the holy roman empire made it punishable by death if you believed jesus was not god.

hitler killed 6million jews under the banner of christianity

milosavic killed about 200,000 muslims, also in the name of chrsitianity

catholic priests (who are made celibate for only god knows why) prey on innocent young children....in fact, a person I met at work has a gay son who is going to seminary school to be a priest, coincedence?

and one final thought,
in a world that promotes no religion and says pornagraphy is "free speech". isn't america and western europe a prime target for islamic conversion?

the future is looking more and more like a crescent moon, rather than a cross.


Nice history lesson :sleep

Christianity in its purest form does not advocate senseless killings and if you knew anything about Christ you would realize that. I don't know of any active movement by any militant pseudo-Christian faction terrorizing the world.Militant Islam on the other hand is active, alive and well on planet Earth.

Enjoy your forays into the ghosts of history while innocents are currently being targeted by the scourge of the earth.

[smeagol]

[[QUOTE]B]

By force? NO!! The past? Go for it.[/B]

Muslim Militantsand extremists: "We will convert the world to Islam, if necessary by force".

Christianity: Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Christianity: Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Christianity:For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.

Notice any similarities? I hope not because there are none!!
The means of conversion are diametrically opposed.

I'm a Christian myself. That does not mean I will deny Christianity has use violent methods in the past. Not doing so would be ignorant.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Nice history lesson :sleep

Christianity in its purest form does not advocate senseless killings and if you knew anything about Christ you would realize that. I don't know of any active movement by any militant pseudo-Christian faction terrorizing the world.Militant Islam on the other hand is active, alive and well on planet Earth.

Enjoy your forays into the ghosts of history while innocents are currently being targeted by the scourge of the earth.

Well, the Catholic Church is murdering people by taking posture for all Catholics to avoid the use of condoms.

[Dos]

how soon they forget all those great athiestic states of Soviet Union, China and Cuba, they've only killed about 100 million people.

[SWC Bonfire]

Genetics and Environment.

Everything you were brought up to know, do, think, whoever raised you, was raised by someone, who was raised by someone, who more than likely accepted this (maybe not actively but passively is acceptance too)

What if I said that you are likely to enslave someone because your ancestors owned slaves, or you were more likely to allow yourself to become a slave because your ancestors were slaves? Pretty crazy statement, isn't it?

And when my 3 X great-grandfather rode with the Texas Rangers out in Castroville and fought the Comanches in the 1840s-1850s, you would have had a harder sell on the merits of the noble Indians. You forget that people didn't live very long back then, because of disease or natural hazards or hostiles. I would wager the life expectancy for some settlers was lower than that of the Indians.

[SWC Bonfire]

in winston-salem numerous "witches" were hanged in the name of god (puritans)


:lol The Salem witch trials were in Salem, Massachusetts. Winston-Salem is in North Carolina and is a major intellectual/technological hub of the US. We got your point, though.

[Swishy McJackass]

how soon they forget all those great athiestic states of Soviet Union, China and Cuba, they've only killed about 100 million people.

In those cases, "God" was replaced by "the state."