Lakers: true or false: lakers will do everything in their power to tank this season [Archive]

RsxPiimp

10-21-2013, 09:30 PM

watching bill simmons and he's implying the lakers will tank this season. assuming kobe returns around december and the lakers are playing 500 ball or struggling to reach that mark, the lakers will probably put a stop on this mini run, trade gasol while he has value and allow kobe to just score at will and entertain the fans. also a good chance d'antoni is fired before as break.

true or false, lakers will purposely tank for wiggins?

ElNono

10-21-2013, 09:51 PM

well, what's the alternative to tanking? playing as hard as they can and end up, at best, 10th in the west?

Thebesteva

10-21-2013, 09:55 PM

would u guys let her sit on your face?

http://images1.sex.com/images/pinporn/2012/05/29/620/285080-curvy-colombian-babe-with-big-booty-selfshot.jpg

ElNono

10-21-2013, 09:58 PM

that gotta be a photoshop, IMO

Katherine Robinson

10-21-2013, 09:58 PM

They will appear competitive, barely miss playoffs and get the #2 or 3 pick. Silver cannot gift the Lakers the first pick and not expect repercussions.

Katherine Robinson

10-21-2013, 09:59 PM

would u guys let her sit on your face?

http://images1.sex.com/images/pinporn/2012/05/29/620/285080-curvy-colombian-babe-with-big-booty-selfshot.jpg

Something is wrong with her quads.

Thebesteva

10-21-2013, 10:10 PM

Something is wrong with her quads.

Noticed that....but u gotta love that quarter horse look in these females

Leetonidas

10-21-2013, 10:18 PM

They really have no shot at making the playoffs barring widespread injuries to the other bottom feeders in the West, so they might as well try to land Wiggins. They have a 0% chance of winning the NBA title and have ~30% chance of making the playoffs. Makes more sense to try to land the next big star.

Thebesteva

10-21-2013, 10:20 PM

Or we can just get KD in 2015, and build a young core in the meantime

Clipper Nation

10-21-2013, 10:23 PM

False.... take a look at the Sixers if you want to see a team who's really committing to the tank, tbh....

ElNono

10-21-2013, 10:24 PM

Or we can just get KD in 2015, and build a young core in the meantime

you would still be missing an alpha, tbh...

DMC

10-21-2013, 10:32 PM

Does it really matter? Lakers are irrelevant, like the Celtics.

DMC

10-21-2013, 10:33 PM

Something is wrong with her quads.

Photoshop imo

Thebesteva

10-21-2013, 10:42 PM

you would still be missing an alpha, tbh...

I'd be more concerned with the Spurs. Spurs r done once Timmy and Parker are gone. Manu is already washed up, I respect the organization and love the way they find guys like Danny Green, Neal, Manu, Parker, etc. But once that core is gone and Popo retires, I see that organization fading into oblivion.

Leetonidas

10-21-2013, 10:43 PM

I'd be more concerned with the Spurs. Spurs r done once Timmy and Parker are gone. Manu is already washed up, I respect the organization and love the way they find guys like Danny Green, Neal, Manu, Parker, etc. But once that core is gone and Popo retires, I see that organization fading into oblivion.

Spurs will tank and luck into another #1 pick and continue their success so the NBA has a small market team they can always point to as an example :toast

ElNono

10-21-2013, 10:49 PM

I'd be more concerned with the Spurs. Spurs r done once Timmy and Parker are gone. Manu is already washed up, I respect the organization and love the way they find guys like Danny Green, Neal, Manu, Parker, etc. But once that core is gone and Popo retires, I see that organization fading into oblivion.

Not gonna worry about the future, when the present is enjoyable. But you do have a point though. It's not much different to what the Lakers are going through right now, after Fisher/Phil Jackson aged and walked away.

Arnold Toht

10-21-2013, 10:49 PM

^ And Duncan will retire down 5-4. Boo-hoo!

ElNono

10-21-2013, 10:50 PM

^ Duncan can retire tomorrow proud of the Sweep

Thebesteva

10-21-2013, 10:58 PM

Not gonna worry about the future, when the present is enjoyable. But you do have a point though. It's not much different to what the Lakers are going through right now, after Fisher/Phil Jackson aged and walked away.

It's VERY different, Lakers have epically collapsed I give you that. But it was obvious to anyone after 2011 that this team was going to be DONE for a while. Only your average run of the mill Mexican taco bender was gonna think Kobe was going to win another chip. You gotta remember, they went 10 years without a finals appearance until they got Phil Jackson+Shaq+Kobe. When Shaq left, many including myself questioned if Dr. Buss still had 'it', Lakers looked horrible from 2005-2007, the FO especially by missing pieces like Boozer, Garnett, Yao, etc.

It wasnt until 2008 things looked better and ultimately everyone cemented Dr. Buss as the GOAT owner. Jim on the other hand is the worst thing to happen to LA since that earthquake in 94.

Rogue

10-21-2013, 11:01 PM

They will tank but they ain't gonna get it done in an obvious manner imho. They'll pretend to be still competing to keep the fans on board, and probably they'll sign another washed-up big name player in the mid-season (Steve Nash caliber) but there'll be no feasible way for them to advance anywhere further than the 1st round imho.

ElNono

10-21-2013, 11:24 PM

It's VERY different, Lakers have epically collapsed I give you that. But it was obvious to anyone after 2011 that this team was going to be DONE for a while. Only your average run of the mill Mexican taco bender was gonna think Kobe was going to win another chip. You gotta remember, they went 10 years without a finals appearance until they got Phil Jackson+Shaq+Kobe. When Shaq left, many including myself questioned if Dr. Buss still had 'it', Lakers looked horrible from 2005-2007, the FO especially by missing pieces like Boozer, Garnett, Yao, etc.

It wasnt until 2008 things looked better and ultimately everyone cemented Dr. Buss as the GOAT owner. Jim on the other hand is the worst thing to happen to LA since that earthquake in 94.

Agree with all that, but before Dr Buss passed, it seemed the storm was only going to be around until Kirby decided to call it quits, because his salary, while it made the team money, was simply a choke-hold against acquiring solid talent.

But now the ascension of Jim puts the expiration date on mediocrity on stand by. You have to add that while going deep in the luxury tax was no problem when Dr Buss was around, now it's extremely prohibitive.

Obviously, there will be more CBA negotiations in the future, but these times are not like Dr Buss times.

Bynumite

10-21-2013, 11:37 PM

Spurs will tank and luck into another #1 pick and continue their success so the NBA has a small market team they can always point to as an example :toast

Good luck getting another Jim and not another David Robinson :lol

DMC

10-21-2013, 11:49 PM

I'd be more concerned with the Spurs. Spurs r done once Timmy and Parker are gone. Manu is already washed up, I respect the organization and love the way they find guys like Danny Green, Neal, Manu, Parker, etc. But once that core is gone and Popo retires, I see that organization fading into oblivion.

We'll have time to cross that bridge when we get there. Right now, it's the Lakers being a team of the past. Let's not stray.

DMC

10-21-2013, 11:50 PM

Good luck getting another Jim and not another David Robinson :lol

At least we won't beg anyone to stay.

DMC

10-21-2013, 11:56 PM

^ And Duncan will retire down 5-4. Boo-hoo!

Tim doesn't give a shit about Kobe's 5 rings. You think he loses sleep thinking about Fisher's rings, or Horry's rings, or Jordan's rings?

You so want Kobe to be the benchmark, but he's not. He's not even close. The only people comparing his rings to Duncan's are Lakers fans.

So when someone thinks of Tim, they will think "one of the best to ever play the game, greatest PF ever" while with Kobe it's "tried to be Mike, got lucky by getting Shaq for a few years and then the franchise center from another playoff caliber team" They'll think Kobe was unrealized potential, held back by what Michael was able to defeat: the quest for personal glory over team glory.

No one has done for a franchise what Tim did for the Spurs, since what MJ did for the Bulls. That's a fact.

Bynumite

10-21-2013, 11:57 PM

At least we won't beg anyone to stay.

Well, Jim's already on his knees *cough* faggot *cough*, so begging would be a natural next step tbh.

DMC

10-22-2013, 12:05 AM

Well, Jim's already on his knees *cough* faggot *cough*, so begging would be a natural next step tbh.

You're future is dim at best. You have the user name of someone who was run out of town, and your team is irrelevant nonetheless. You're pretty much relegated to talking about sucking cock.

Bynumite

10-22-2013, 12:08 AM

You're future is dim at best. You have the user name of someone who was run out of town, and your team is irrelevant nonetheless. You're pretty much relegated to talking about sucking cock.

Collecting regular season titles until Jim retires and playing decades of lottery ball after that is not that good either tbh.

ElNono

10-22-2013, 12:15 AM

Collecting regular season titles until Jim retires and playing decades of lottery ball after that is not that good either tbh.

You can tell us about that next season, tbh...

Bynumite

10-22-2013, 12:18 AM

So what's it gonna be, Seattle Spursonics or back to Dallas Chaparrals after Jim retires?

ElNono

10-22-2013, 12:25 AM

Hopefully Jim keeps over-spending in awful talent and subsidizing the San Antonio Spurs...

Arnold Toht

10-22-2013, 12:30 AM

^ Won't matter if you guys give up 5 point leads with 28 seconds to go in a championship deciding game.

Until that changes, 5>4, Kobe over Duncan, son. :lol

ElNono

10-22-2013, 12:32 AM

^ Won't matter if you keep not winning a single game in the playoffs

Until that changes, Swept son :lmao

Thebesteva

10-22-2013, 12:33 AM

Agree with all that, but before Dr Buss passed, it seemed the storm was only going to be around until Kirby decided to call it quits, because his salary, while it made the team money, was simply a choke-hold against acquiring solid talent.

But now the ascension of Jim puts the expiration date on mediocrity on stand by. You have to add that while going deep in the luxury tax was no problem when Dr Buss was around, now it's extremely prohibitive.

Obviously, there will be more CBA negotiations in the future, but these times are not like Dr Buss times.

The first and most important thing that needs to and WILL happen (I predict at some point this season) is the Buss family overthrowing Jim

Arnold Toht

10-22-2013, 12:34 AM

^ We can be swept as many times as possible. Won't do a damned thing to 5-4, Kobe over Duncan.

YOU, however? Oh boy. You're in for some deep shit if you're fine with missing game tying shots in the final minute of game 7. WHILE DOWN 5-4 IN THE COUNT.

ElNono

10-22-2013, 12:38 AM

^ You keep on getting Swept. Won't do a damned thing to 7-5, Horry over Kobe.

YOU, however? We're going to keep reminding you that WE didn't let you win a single playoff game. :lmao

Arnold Toht

10-22-2013, 12:39 AM

^ Kerr has 5.

Oh, my. El....

ElNono

10-22-2013, 12:39 AM

^ fixed... and Swept

Arnold Toht

10-22-2013, 12:40 AM

5× NBA champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_champions) (2000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_NBA_Finals)–2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_NBA_Finals), 2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NBA_Finals)–2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NBA_Finals))
4× NBA champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_champions) (1999 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NBA_Finals), 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NBA_Finals), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NBA_Finals), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NBA_Finals))

ElNono

10-22-2013, 12:41 AM

^ 0-4 one time Swept

ElNono

10-22-2013, 12:43 AM

The first and most important thing that needs to and WILL happen (I predict at some point this season) is the Buss family overthrowing Jim

I don't see it. It was Dr Buss' will... not this soon.

Clipper Nation

10-22-2013, 12:45 AM

^ 0-4 one time Swept
Not just one time.... Timmy shut down the Forum with a Sweep as well, tbh...

Arnold Toht

10-22-2013, 12:45 AM

^ Combined 3X Backdoor swept victims.

ElNono

10-22-2013, 12:53 AM

^ Swept, Begged and Rejected

Arnold Toht

10-22-2013, 12:54 AM

^ The Cuck, the Choke and the Coming Out

ElNono

10-22-2013, 12:57 AM

^ Swept by the cuck, the choke and the coming out

Arnold Toht

10-22-2013, 01:04 AM

^ Still a 4-timer or no?

ElNono

10-22-2013, 01:05 AM

^ still the dude that Swept you

Arnold Toht

10-22-2013, 01:07 AM

^ 4-time NBA World Champion

ElNono

10-22-2013, 01:10 AM

^ Swept, Begged and Rejected

Thebesteva

10-22-2013, 01:12 AM

ElNono

10-22-2013, 01:16 AM

Honestly tho, as a Laker fan, the best thing to happen to the Lakers this season (aside from Phil being HC) is Lakers getting the dog shit kicked out of them. It makes the message harder to avoid by the FO that its time to change

I'll be surprised if you don't go through a couple more coaches before Jim realizes he has to go though...

Thebesteva

10-22-2013, 01:29 AM

I'll be surprised if you don't go through a couple more coaches before Jim realizes he has to go though...

Honestly, as Kobe stood there and had one of the worst games of his career but hoisted that finals MVP. I thought it was CLEAR as day it would be his last championship, and the Lakers last ring for a LONG time. I assumed 5-8 years (long for lakers). One way or the other, I see Kobe leaving early this season because the team is not really worthy, Pau is gonna sit out as well.

I see Kobe leaving to play for another team and give it 1 or 2 more seasons and try to win a chip (ie Peyton Manning in Denver). I also think Lakers will go till 2018 before they have a realistic chance at contending again. It's not too bad tho, it was expected after 7 out of 10 finals appearances from 2000-2010

Thebesteva

10-22-2013, 01:30 AM

Oh yeah I also see Dwight pulling the same shit again in Houston after a season or two

ElNono

10-22-2013, 01:38 AM

Oh yeah I also see Dwight pulling the same shit again in Houston after a season or two

ditto

HI-FI

10-22-2013, 01:52 AM

Not gonna worry about the future, when the present is enjoyable. But you do have a point though. It's not much different to what the Lakers are going through right now, after Fisher/Phil Jackson aged and walked away.
:lol
subtle

Agree with all that, but before Dr Buss passed, it seemed the storm was only going to be around until Kirby decided to call it quits, because his salary, while it made the team money, was simply a choke-hold against acquiring solid talent.

But now the ascension of Jim puts the expiration date on mediocrity on stand by. You have to add that while going deep in the luxury tax was no problem when Dr Buss was around, now it's extremely prohibitive.

Obviously, there will be more CBA negotiations in the future, but these times are not like Dr Buss times.

elephant in the room and best overall point. the laker fans on here thinking Lakers should get whatever they want because they can outspend everyone better pray there won't be a hard cap, because things are inching further in that direction. that would actually benefit teams like Spurs who have no problem working within a budget. if the CBA becomes more prohibtive, I could see a mass exodus of Laker bandwagoners tbh. This board wouldn't be the same.:cry

as for bynumite fag about Spurs post Duncan, we won't be winning 4 championships in several years like with the greatest PF of all time, but we were competing in playoffs pre Duncan so most likely we will continue to compete.

AchillesHeel

10-22-2013, 02:28 AM

^ Swept, Begged and Rejected

:lol Nono shits on Toht every time and he still keeps trying

elmanutres

10-22-2013, 02:52 AM

Honestly, as Kobe stood there and had one of the worst games of his career but hoisted that finals MVP. I thought it was CLEAR as day it would be his last championship, and the Lakers last ring for a LONG time. I assumed 5-8 years (long for lakers). One way or the other, I see Kobe leaving early this season because the team is not really worthy, Pau is gonna sit out as well.

I see Kobe leaving to play for another team and give it 1 or 2 more seasons and try to win a chip (ie Peyton Manning in Denver). I also think Lakers will go till 2018 before they have a realistic chance at contending again. It's not too bad tho, it was expected after 7 out of 10 finals appearances from 2000-2010

I have a hard time believing the lakers would let Kobe go easily. The guy puts butts at seats. Plus he has admitted on wanting to be a laker for life.

spurraider21

10-22-2013, 03:19 AM

the Lakers can potentially make the 8th seed, though I wouldn't put money on it. You pretty much have to expect the following 7 to be locks for the playoffs: Spurs, Thunder, Clippers, Rockets, Grizzlies, Warriors, Mavs. that leaves one spot, where the Lakers will have a shot. If the Lakers go back to being a Pau-centric offense, they will have a good shot of taking that 8th spot. I'd like to think New Orleans takes that last spot provided cornerstone can play > half the season

Thebesteva

10-22-2013, 03:54 AM

I have a hard time believing the lakers would let Kobe go easily. The guy puts butts at seats. Plus he has admitted on wanting to be a laker for life.

I have a hard time believing Kobe is gonna wanna return to this mess after he sees whats up this season. Lakers are a mess inside out, its not his fault. I just cant see a contender team that would greatly benefit from having Kobe though.

ambchang

10-22-2013, 10:45 AM

What should happen - Lakers played hard to fight for the playoffs, barely missed it. Lands 13th pick.
What Lakers should do - Tank the hell out of the season to get a top 3 pick.
What Laker execs want to happen - Lakers played hard to fight for the playoffs, barely missed it. Lands 2nd pick.
What would happen - Lakers played hard to fight for the playoffs, gets a +12FTA advantage, makes 7th seed. Lands 2nd pick by trading away Jim Buss, D'antoni and spare car parts.

ambchang

10-22-2013, 10:46 AM

BTW, also agree Spurs will be irrelevant once Popovich is gone. He may not be the best X&O coach in the history of the league, but he is most definitely one of the best leaders in building a culture of winning, getting right fit, and preparing the team in the best way possible.

StrengthAndHonor

10-22-2013, 08:53 PM

StrengthAndHonor

10-22-2013, 08:56 PM

There's a good chance D'Antoni is fired before All Star break which should make this year as Nash' last season with the Lakers.

Arnold Toht

10-22-2013, 08:58 PM

^ You'd sure like to expand that collection of 0-timers, wouldn't you?

ambchang

10-23-2013, 10:35 AM

I think he's the best in game coach better than Phil IMHO.

I don't really see KFC as a great X&O coach, and for reasons I can't even explain, I always gave that benefit to Ted Winters. But other great X&O coaches are Chuck Daly, Pat Riley, Larry Brown, Hubie Brown, Scott Brooks ....