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raybies
10-25-2013, 12:35 PM
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/10/25/spurs-to-sign-josh-howard-to-non-guaranteed-deal/

ace3g
10-25-2013, 12:38 PM
Sad day when SAEN beats other reporters on the news...

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 12:41 PM
Wha wha whatttttt?

Not sure how to take this. He's likely done but if he isn't, can he contribute? Seems too old to defend well, knee surgery will impact his lateral movement but he may be able to score a little.

Never wanted this guy on the team as he seemed like a bad locker room guy but I guess we'll find out.

Baam
10-25-2013, 12:43 PM
WTF.... Should have kept Maggette...

NASpurs
10-25-2013, 12:44 PM
:lmao

ace3g
10-25-2013, 12:45 PM
Looks like he is going directly to Toros for rehab

Uriel
10-25-2013, 12:45 PM
Sad day when SAEN beats other reporters on the news...
At least they're finally doing their job. :tu

RD2191
10-25-2013, 12:47 PM
:lmaoSpurs

DPG21920
10-25-2013, 12:49 PM
What is with the love affair with this damn guy. Spurs will literally look at anyone who's ever had one great game against them.

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 12:50 PM
What is with the love affair with this damn guy. Spurs will literally look at anyone who's ever had one great game against them.

To be fair, Josh had quite a few good games against the spurs but at his age and with his marginal work ethic, he'll likely never be a rotational player with the Spurs.

superbigtime
10-25-2013, 12:51 PM
JHo won't do shit for the Spurs.

DPG21920
10-25-2013, 12:53 PM
Chris Douglas-Roberts has been cut..

DPG21920
10-25-2013, 12:54 PM
To be fair, Josh had quite a few good games against the spurs but at his age and with his marginal work ethic, he'll likely never be a rotational player with the Spurs.

I don't think it's a work ethic issue. Its age & injury issues. Of course Josh had several good games, but the Spurs seem to fall in love with anyone who has even one great game against them.

UZER
10-25-2013, 12:58 PM
What is with the love affair with this damn guy. Spurs will literally look at anyone who's ever had one great game against them.

No joke. It's like that girl that looked hot wearing that ONE outfit that ONE time. Plus, you were a little tipsy.

ColinB
10-25-2013, 12:58 PM
Called this in the free agent thread over the summer.

Wish I would have predicted the Spurs signed AK47 instead.

Dex
10-25-2013, 01:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/QznyA5L.gif

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 01:02 PM
I don't think it's a work ethic issue. Its age & injury issues. Of course Josh had several good games, but the Spurs seem to fall in love with anyone who has even one great game against them.

I only say marginal work ethic because good players find ways to be productive when their athleticism declines. It's a moot point anyway as he won't see any meaningful minutes with the spurs.

I'd have much rather them use that roster spot on someone younger who has a chance of making the rotation. Plenty of fish in that sea, Nunally, CDR, shit even Royce White's crazy ass would be worth a shot over a broken down JHoward.

Johnny RIngo
10-25-2013, 01:05 PM
Called this in the free agent thread over the summer.

Wish I would have predicted the Spurs signed AK47 instead.

One of the most disappointing off-seasons in recent memory. We went from having a shot at Ak47 to signing Josh Howard...massive fucking step down.

ace3g
10-25-2013, 01:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hB74NPhbL3o

Johnny RIngo
10-25-2013, 01:06 PM
Spurs will literally look at anyone who's ever had one great game against them.

Bonzi Wells to be signed next week.

DJR210
10-25-2013, 01:08 PM
What is with the love affair with this damn guy

We sign J.R. Smith in 2019 followed by a sign and trade for Amir Johnson in 2020.

Darkwaters
10-25-2013, 01:08 PM
We all knew this day was coming...

xmas1997
10-25-2013, 01:10 PM
Was R.C. drunk or something?

loveforthegame
10-25-2013, 01:18 PM
Well. Whoever the Spurs sign always comes with a hope he pans out tag.

McGrady, Young, and Maggette didn't cut it. So now we hope Howard can provide something. Time will tell. If not, they move on to the next guy until the find the right fit.

At least they keep looking.

timtonymanu
10-25-2013, 01:20 PM
Gross.

PlayNando
10-25-2013, 01:20 PM
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/10/25/spurs-to-sign-josh-howard-to-non-guaranteed-deal/
fk this clown.

fkn pathetic move made by RC and company. Unbelievable. Another toxic asset to replace SJax smh!!!

Trill Clinton
10-25-2013, 01:23 PM
so is he still on a steady diet of blunts and alcohol or nah?

ace3g
10-25-2013, 01:23 PM
Official press release:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/131025_spurs_sign_josh_howard

davidbowie
10-25-2013, 01:26 PM
ugh :madrun

bklynspursfan
10-25-2013, 01:26 PM
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SanAntonioSpurs23
10-25-2013, 01:26 PM
:lmao The horse face is finished

Mr. Body
10-25-2013, 01:27 PM
Best option still is Stephen Jackson.

Captivus
10-25-2013, 01:27 PM
This is for all of you that say the 2K games have crazy trades!!

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 01:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hB74NPhbL3o

I'm sure his agent put this out there but I have to say, he's moving pretty well.

Robz4000
10-25-2013, 01:29 PM
:lmao

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 01:29 PM
so is he still on a steady diet of blunts and alcohol or nah?

It's purple drank these days...

timtonymanu
10-25-2013, 01:29 PM
Well its a non guaranteed contract so they cut always cut him.

I doubt they would have brought him in though if he still had character issues.

xmas1997
10-25-2013, 01:31 PM
They can't allocate Kabongo?
Then this is just sheer stupidity.

timtonymanu
10-25-2013, 01:32 PM
I still remember the rumored Danny Green for Josh Howard trade 2 years ago. :lmao

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 01:32 PM
I doubt they would have brought him in though if he still had character issues.

SJax says Hi, :lol

Still :depressed about that knucklehead knuckleheading his way off the team.

xmas1997
10-25-2013, 01:34 PM
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This definitely makes no sense, because Kabongo has decent upside if properly developed in the D league.

xmas1997
10-25-2013, 01:36 PM
Best option still is Stephen Jackson.

SJax? Give me a break! He was the beginning of subpar signings IMHO.

Darkwaters
10-25-2013, 01:37 PM
Why would we want to allocate Howard to the Toros? They're obviously not looking to develop him as a prospect since hes 33 and broke down. So they want him in Austin to...what? Keep him close so that they can call him up quickly? I'm not convinced. Especially if it comes at the cost of a viable prospect in Kabongo.

Hoops Czar
10-25-2013, 01:39 PM
:lmao The horse face is finished

Yeah, RC proving that he was never the brains behind the organization. He's been exposed. Josh Howard is also done.

Raven
10-25-2013, 01:39 PM
after belinelli, this is another nightmare signing.. what a terrible offseason..

xmas1997
10-25-2013, 01:40 PM
Why would we want to allocate Howard to the Toros? They're obviously not looking to develop him as a prospect since hes 33 and broke down. So they want him in Austin to...what? Keep him close so that they can call him up quickly? I'm not convinced. Especially if it comes at the cost of a viable prospect in Kabongo.

I agree totally. Kabongo is the first really decent PG to come along at the Spurs disposal in a long time. He is a distributor type of point guard.

dg7md
10-25-2013, 01:43 PM
I actually like this signing. I feel like it is more likely to do efficient work than T-Mac. I think he'll be a solid rotation man for the jobs is he asked of.

Ginobili3
10-25-2013, 01:43 PM
I'll give a final verdict when Howard actually plays, but as of right now, he's not Spurs material at all imo, in terms of culture. He's about to be sipping lean and smoking blunts all day now lol

CitizenDwayne
10-25-2013, 01:43 PM
Just think about how bad Young & Maggete must have been, if they're willing to accept J-Ho over them.

And no, don't even bring up Jax. He's just as bad, if not worse at this point.

xmas1997
10-25-2013, 01:45 PM
Just think about how bad Young & Maggete must have been, if they're willing to accept J-Ho over them.

And no, don't even bring up Jax. He's just as bad, if not worse at this point.

All your points make perfect sense.

Uriel
10-25-2013, 02:03 PM
I don't get why there's so much hate for this signing. It's a non guaranteed contract; there's almost no risk involved. The Spurs are at liberty to cut the guy anytime they want; and if he ends up panning out (admittedly a big if), the potential reward is far greater than what can be reasonably expected of any 15th man.

Texas_Ranger
10-25-2013, 02:04 PM
still probably better than De Colo....

Bruno
10-25-2013, 02:05 PM
If it's a Toros signing like said in the article, there is nothing really to bitch about.

Howard will be cut in a few days and then signed a D-League contract and be assigned to the Toros. IF he does well enough with them, Spurs might sign him later this season.

And Kabongo will also go to the Toros. Up to 3 cut training camp invites might go to the affiliated D-League team.

phxspurfan
10-25-2013, 02:05 PM
Dear Spurs,

Great signing!

Sincerely,
The year 2007

elemento
10-25-2013, 02:08 PM
Typical Spurs :lol

Can't say that I am surprised

xmas1997
10-25-2013, 02:09 PM
If it's a Toros signing like said in the article, there is nothing really to bitch about.

Howard will be cut in a few days and then signed a D-League contract and be assigned to the Toros. IF he does well enough with them, Spurs might sign him later this season.

And Kabongo will also go to the Toros. Up to 3 cut training camp invites might go to the affiliated D-League team.


If this is indeed the case then who am I to complain?

Biernutz
10-25-2013, 02:12 PM
The Toros is rehab. If another team thought he could help they would have signed him. A non-guaranteed
in Austin.

timtonymanu
10-25-2013, 02:13 PM
If it's a Toros signing like said in the article, there is nothing really to bitch about.

Howard will be cut in a few days and then signed a D-League contract and be assigned to the Toros. IF he does well enough with them, Spurs might sign him later this season.

And Kabongo will also go to the Toros. Up to 3 cut training camp invites might go to the affiliated D-League team.

Thanks for clearing that up! Hopefully this is the case then.

The_Coyote
10-25-2013, 02:17 PM
Josh Howard on the Spurs? Jesus that's almost as scary as signing Jason Terry...

Sean Cagney
10-25-2013, 02:21 PM
Josh Howard on the Spurs? Jesus that's almost as scary as signing Jason Terry...
PLEASE DO NOT JOKE like that :( If Terry ever comes to the SPURS I am going to punch a hole in the wall.

xmas1997
10-25-2013, 02:23 PM
PLEASE DO NOT JOKE like that :( If Terry ever comes to the SPURS I am going to punch a hole in the wall.

:lmao. Me too!

bigfan
10-25-2013, 02:24 PM
Yeah, he can shoot but he is a dumb as a post so I doubt Pop will tolerate his stupidity for long. Also, quite a "party" type.

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 02:32 PM
after belinelli, this is another nightmare signing.. what a terrible offseason..

Such Emo after not one reg season game aside, Beli has the ability to really flourish with the Spurs so not sure what you are on about...

spursince#99
10-25-2013, 02:34 PM
Maybe we can use him as A Trade piece?

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 02:34 PM
Jesus that's almost as scary as signing Jason Terry...

Nothing is as scary as that asshat Terry on the Spurs. Nothing.

Sean Cagney
10-25-2013, 02:49 PM
Nothing is as scary as that asshat Terry on the Spurs. Nothing.

.........

Raven
10-25-2013, 02:50 PM
Such Emo after not one reg season game aside, Beli has the ability to really flourish with the Spurs so not sure what you are on about...

you'll find out soon enough.

Libri
10-25-2013, 03:01 PM
The Spurs FO once again have done an SUI (signing under the influence).

ohmwrecker
10-25-2013, 03:07 PM
Chris Douglas-Roberts has been cut..

I was wondering what happened to that dude. Was he still with the Mavs? Who cut him?

ohmwrecker
10-25-2013, 03:08 PM
Never mind . . . Knicks.

CitizenDwayne
10-25-2013, 03:30 PM
All your points make perfect sense.

Thanks. I try.

Spurs9
10-25-2013, 03:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hB74NPhbL3o

dam looks better than I expected

Kidd K
10-25-2013, 03:41 PM
Called this in the free agent thread over the summer.

Wish I would have predicted the Spurs signed AK47 instead.

Well you would've been wrong then. :lol

Good call though if you did predict Josh Howard. :toast


Such Emo after not one reg season game aside, Beli has the ability to really flourish with the Spurs so not sure what you are on about...

I watched Belinelli ALL of last season. He was not a very good signing. You guys were way overhyped on him and I completely didn't get it. . .until I realized you guys have barely seen him play before.

He's not as good as you think he is. He's worse than Richard Jefferson on both ends of the floor. Actually, I have no doubt RJ would school that guy 9 times out of 10 in both team settings and one on one. Best case scenerio, he'll be a lateral movement to Gary Neal. Of course, I already know it's a step down offensively. Neal's defense was so poor though, maybe it'll balance out to have mediocre defense out of that spot instead of atrocious defense.

SpursFan86
10-25-2013, 03:45 PM
People are underestimating the impact of a team's offensive system.

Sure, Belinelli didn't play too well in Chicago last year. Part of the reason for that is Chicago had a shitty offense (23rd best in the league). Their system is nothing like ours. I think Belinelli will be getting much better looks this year as a Spur, and will take advantage of it. I know it's just preseason, but he has looked pretty good thus far.

I'm not saying he'll be an all-star or anything...but I really think he'll be at least a decent improvement over Neal. No way he can be worse on defense, and I think he'll be better on offense. He's bigger and has better basketball IQ as well.

UZER
10-25-2013, 03:46 PM
PLEASE DO NOT JOKE like that :( If Terry ever comes to the SPURS I am going to punch a hole in the wall.

who knows, he is only 36. The spurs may have interest in him in 5 years.

benefactor
10-25-2013, 03:52 PM
Kidd K and Raven saying Beli will suck...which basically assures that he will turn into '05 Manu.

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 04:00 PM
He's not as good as you think he is. He's worse than Richard Jefferson on both ends of the floor. Actually, I have no doubt RJ would school that guy 9 times out of 10 in both team settings and one on one. Best case scenerio, he'll be a lateral movement to Gary Neal. Of course, I already know it's a step down offensively. Neal's defense was so poor though, maybe it'll balance out to have mediocre defense out of that spot instead of atrocious defense.

Wow, can't believe I'm responding to this but you can't actually be serious, can you? Did you not see HWSNBN play in SA? The 3 was all he had left. He couldn't pass, rebound, dunk or even draw fouls any more with that flailing at the basket screaming move we saw over and over and over.

Beli can create, play pnr, defend (a little) and shoot. Neal can shoot and... um... shoot. Even if Beli shooting % is lower than Neal, he brings much more to the game than Neal ever will. Net positive.

ace3g
10-25-2013, 04:05 PM
Still laughing at the people hating on Marco because of his defense against Harden, no one said he would be some defensive stopper on the Spurs.

You can already see in preseason the impact he can have on the court and I guarantee he won't be a lateral movement to Neal just on the fact that he can handle the ball.

Also saying HWSNBN could school Marco, lol

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 04:09 PM
Still laughing at the people hating on Marco because of his defense against Harden, no one said he would be some defensive stopper on the Spurs.

You can already see in preseason the impact he can have on the court and I guarantee he won't be a lateral movement to Neal just on the fact that he can handle the ball.

Also saying HWSNBN could school Marco, lol

Laying blame on Beli for Harden last night is ludicrous. Harden is the best sg in the league right now, no one can shut him down at the level he's playing at.

rayray2k8
10-25-2013, 04:10 PM
Ugh... The only good news about this is that it's non-guaranteed.. Which is sad. :\

moisaenz
10-25-2013, 04:17 PM
great signing

Chomag
10-25-2013, 04:20 PM
Maggette, Young, Tmak, what the hell is up with the Spurs and their love affair with washed up old players? I dont think ill ever understand, but if they were going to sign J-ho why release MAggette? Still the better player at this stage imo..

benefactor
10-25-2013, 04:25 PM
Wow, can't believe I'm responding to this but you can't actually be serious, can you?
Oh he's serious...he's just a dumbass.

tenbeersbold
10-25-2013, 04:45 PM
Best option still is Stephen Jackson.

YUP! The ONLY player in the 2012 PO's to enter the 50-40-90 club and we cut him for the corpse of McGrady...

Pop/RC shit the bed there big time,gave up 10-12 ppg MINIMUM not even counting the PRESSURE factor

BB is a game of runs and clutch performances,you can't convince me that STAK5 woulndna gone off for at least one game in the Finals,enuff to win it fo' sho

objective
10-25-2013, 04:46 PM
Howard is a terrible player at this point in his career and the move cements the Spurs FO doing as little as possible to make the team any better than it was last year. There's gambles, and then there's flushing. There is no potential for return on Howard (unlike Maggette), there is only his horrid game that needs to be flushed from the NBA. Too bad he'll be clogging the Spurs toilet.

TheyCallMePro
10-25-2013, 04:51 PM
I was actually very excited when I saw this. Didn't know about his knee issues though. All I remember is that this guy was a BEAST in Dallas and lit us up every time we played them.

Watched the 6 minute workout video. He made pretty much every shot...but I didn't see any kind of explosiveness in his game. You'd think he'd want to showcase how healthy he is by dunking the ball and dribbling really fast into the lane, but all he did was shoot. Not very impressed. We need someone who can defend at that position. Someone who can provide energy off the bench. We have plenty of shooters already.

We'll see. I do however disagree with most of you as I believe he WILL be part of the active roster immediately. The Spurs wouldn't bring in a veteran and send him to the Toros. Pop just doesn't do that. He might not play immediately, but he'll be on the bench for sure.

tenbeersbold
10-25-2013, 04:52 PM
Still laughing at the people hating on Marco because of his defense against Harden, no one said he would be some defensive stopper on the Spurs.

You can already see in preseason the impact he can have on the court and I guarantee he won't be a lateral movement to Neal just on the fact that he can handle the ball.

YOU GUARANTEE...LMFAO

Libri
10-25-2013, 04:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hB74NPhbL3o

Bonner also makes all his shots in practice.

ace3g
10-25-2013, 04:58 PM
Bonner also makes all his shots in practice.

Wasn't really the point of the vid, just trying to find the latest visual evidence of what type of shape he was or wasn't in.

Austin_Toros
10-25-2013, 05:00 PM
I don't understand why the Spurs would be looking at Howard after waiving Maggette. Howard has his own injury concerns. Can he offer anything more than Maggette could?

tenbeersbold
10-25-2013, 05:01 PM
Wow, can't believe I'm responding to this but you can't actually be serious, can you? Did you not see HWSNBN play in SA? The 3 was all he had left. He couldn't pass, rebound, dunk or even draw fouls any more with that flailing at the basket screaming move we saw over and over and over.

Beli can create, play pnr, defend (a little) and shoot. Neal can shoot and... um... shoot. Even if Beli shooting % is lower than Neal, he brings much more to the game than Neal ever will. Net positive.

Except none of what you say is actually true,Neal has better stats in every definable NBA category
TRUTH,not opinion

Net bullshit is more like it...

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 05:07 PM
Maggette, Young, Tmak, what the hell is up with the Spurs and their love affair with washed up old players? I dont think ill ever understand, but if they were going to sign J-ho why release MAggette? Still the better player at this stage imo..

Maggette had a health issue apparently which is why they let him walk.

Libri
10-25-2013, 05:15 PM
Wasn't really the point of the vid, just trying to find the latest visual evidence of what type of shape he was or wasn't in.

Oh I know, good video. :tu

My comment was for anybody who might get a little too excited about Howard making all his shots. :lol

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 05:20 PM
Howard is a terrible player at this point in his career and the move cements the Spurs FO doing as little as possible to make the team any better than it was last year. There's gambles, and then there's flushing. There is no potential for return on Howard (unlike Maggette), there is only his horrid game that needs to be flushed from the NBA. Too bad he'll be clogging the Spurs toilet.

Maggette's main redeeming quality was getting to the free throw line but in the preseason we saw that he just didn't have the lift to get far enough in that they had to foul him.

Howard is a gamble but for the last roster spot on an unguaranteed contract, not a huge one.

Still rather have Nunnally, CDR or someone young enough to get better over time.

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 05:24 PM
Except none of what you say is actually true,Neal has better stats in every definable NBA category
TRUTH,not opinion

Net bullshit is more like it...

Guess the system he was playing in had nothing to do with his success, huh? Let's compare their stats at the end of this season and see where they are then.

And if you think that Beli can't create, play pnr, defend (a little) and shoot and that Neal can, then you are as big of a dumbass as you seem to be.

Net trollshit is more like it...

Dex
10-25-2013, 05:27 PM
Well, I'll give this to the Spurs FO....they are definitely not sitting on their laurels for that backup SF spot.

TimDunkem
10-25-2013, 05:28 PM
Wait - there are people who actually think that he's going to suit up for the Spurs? Did anyone read the OP?

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 05:38 PM
Oh he's serious...he's just a dumbass.

:lol but yeah, he really is.

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 05:41 PM
Wait - there are people who actually think that he's going to suit up for the Spurs? Did anyone read the OP?

The OP said that he might go to the Toros and even then it could just be for a few games to get his legs back. It wouldn't be surprising to see him play for SA a few weeks into the season. That's not to say that he won't suck, as in all likelihood he will. But they wouldn't sign him just to stick on the Toros.

Budkin
10-25-2013, 05:42 PM
Would have been awesome in 2006. Now? :lmao

TimDunkem
10-25-2013, 05:44 PM
The OP said that he might go to the Toros and even then it could just be for a few games to get his legs back. It wouldn't be surprising to see him play for SA a few weeks into the season. That's not to say that he won't suck, as in all likelihood he will. But they wouldn't sign him just to stick on the Toros.

Yes, it would be surprising if he suited up considering they're only helping him rehab. Expect Howard to be waived soon.

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 05:52 PM
Yes, it would be surprising if he suited up considering they're only helping him rehab. Expect Howard to be waived soon.

He might be waived and go to the Toros then but if he plays halfway decent there, don't be surprised to see them call him back up.

Hoops Czar
10-25-2013, 06:01 PM
Wait - there are people who actually think that he's going to suit up for the Spurs? Did anyone read the OP?


I read the OP. The Spurs aren't going to sign a guy like Howard to a non-guaranteed contract, release him, and have him sign with the Toros if they weren't at least considering bringing him up at some point. RC might as well hold open auditions at the AT&T center for anyone interested in playing backup SF for the Spurs this year ( just bring photo ID) as if RC hasn't already made a mess of this off season. What could the Spurs see in a 33 year old has been, who hasn't played in more than 43 games since his first knee surgery? This is the best they could do? Apparently, Houston wasn't interested in his services after camp and RC's always the first in line for sloppy seconds. What a travesty of an off season.

TimDunkem
10-25-2013, 06:01 PM
I won't hold my breath for any of those things to happen except for him to be waived.

Hoops Czar
10-25-2013, 06:03 PM
Yes, it would be surprising if he suited up considering they're only helping him rehab. Expect Howard to be waived soon.

Why would the Spurs care about Howard's rehabilitation. They're not running a free clinic.

rick1991
10-25-2013, 06:04 PM
Guess the system he was playing in had nothing to do with his success, huh? Let's compare their stats at the end of this season and see where they are then.

And if you think that Beli can't create, play pnr, defend (a little) and shoot and that Neal can, then you are as big of a dumbass as you seem to be.

Net trollshit is more like it...
Maggette had 8 free throws against the Suns. I still think he has the ability. He just had a horrible game in Denver on the second night of a back to back. I would much rather have Maggette or TMAC.

TimDunkem
10-25-2013, 06:05 PM
I read the OP. The Spurs aren't going to sign a guy like Howard to a non-guaranteed contract, release him, and have him sign with the Toros if they weren't at least considering bringing him up at some point.

I don't know...Signing Howard ( a guy they like for whatever reason) just to help him rehab and restart his NBA career seems like exactly the kind of thing the Spurs would do.

TimDunkem
10-25-2013, 06:07 PM
Why would the Spurs care about Howard's rehabilitation. They're not running a free clinic.

Like you said, perhaps down the road they might consider him if his rehab goes well. The chances of that happening is slim to none though..in my opinion.

Mugshot
10-25-2013, 06:17 PM
When he played for the Mavs, I had his phone number and would prank call him all the time.

Full Circle....

xmas1997
10-25-2013, 06:33 PM
Why would the Spurs care about Howard's rehabilitation. They're not running a free clinic.


I don't know...Signing Howard ( a guy they like for whatever reason) just to help him rehab and restart his NBA career seems like exactly the kind of thing the Spurs would do.


Like you said, perhaps down the road they might consider him if his rehab goes well. The chances of that happening is slim to none though..in my opinion.

Could that be why his contract is not guaranteed? Seems to me that if they really wanted him then at least part of his contract would be guaranteed.
I just wish they had done the same for a much younger player like Nunnally.

monkeypunk
10-25-2013, 06:38 PM
I don't know...Signing Howard ( a guy they like for whatever reason) just to help him rehab and restart his NBA career seems like exactly the kind of thing the Spurs would do.

They have no obligation to Howard and have no history of signing vets strictly to play for the Toros.

They're doing it to take a look at him to gauge whether he has anything left, if so, they'll call him up.

TimDunkem
10-25-2013, 07:02 PM
Why sign him just to waive him and send him to the Toros then? Couldn't they just keep him here to check him out if he was actually capable of playing right now?

exstatic
10-25-2013, 07:07 PM
Why sign him just to waive him and send him to the Toros then? Couldn't they just keep him here to check him out if he was actually capable of playing right now?

He's only really recently been cleared for 5 on 5. He surely needs to rehab and get into basketball shape. Maybe they don't want to pay him NBA wages to do so. Having him rehab on a d-league contract is MUCH cheaper, even for a short term rehab.

Kool Bob Love
10-25-2013, 07:14 PM
When he played for the Mavs, I had his phone number and would prank call him all the time.

Full Circle....
:lmao

Bruno
10-25-2013, 07:54 PM
And Josh Howard might stay less than a day with Spurs. The deadline to cut him for free is Saturday 5pm ET. After that, it will cost about $5,200 by day to keep Howard.

rastaspur
10-25-2013, 08:30 PM
Dont fret. Er ting gonna be alright. Pafto are doing their due diligence. Just searching in the scrap pile. They are starting to remind me of the show american pickers with this backup sf search. Looking in old barns to try and find a hidden antique treasure. Im gonna be shooting ball this weekend at a park court and rc and pop are gonna come rolling into the parking lot in a rape van drunk on wine trying to give me an tryout. Lol. Im high. So imagination is in overdrive

tim_duncan_fan
10-25-2013, 08:32 PM
PATFO gets everyone I ask for about 7 years after I ask for them.

This guy is foolish, probably unable to put the weed down and is DONE. WTF?

rastaspur
10-25-2013, 08:35 PM
The ting is da herb is not his problem. He is his problem.

I and i knows timmy gets high. Its not a problem for the greatestpf of all time.

spurraider21
10-25-2013, 08:38 PM
hope its just a d-league thing. either way, still better than Tmac :lol

rastaspur
10-25-2013, 08:44 PM
Pafto should search all the crackhouses in america to see if richard dumas still has game. He was a promising young prospect in the 90's but the cocaine ruined it. His legs could be fresh due to low mileage

ElNono
10-25-2013, 08:50 PM
Solid signing... gonna have to up the offseason grade from B+ to A-, tbh...

rastaspur
10-25-2013, 08:56 PM
:lmao. Me too!


Solid signing... gonna have to up the offseason grade from B+ to A-, tbh...
If his knees prove to be much improved over the last three seasons then it pays dividends. If not then no biggie and on to the next prospect. Not a bad signing. Nothing to lose and a solid pobackup as a potentiaal reward.

Hoops Czar
10-25-2013, 09:13 PM
Nono wouldn't care if the Spurs signed Mr. Hanky.

Poolboy5623
10-25-2013, 09:51 PM
The fact that they're shuffling through these guys, like they are, is a bit alarming..seems a bit desperate. Why is it so hard to find a backup Sf?

elmanutres
10-25-2013, 09:57 PM
why do washed up mavericks always end up with the spurs?

Axegrinder
10-25-2013, 09:58 PM
My understanding was that the LAST 3 players waived from roster can be allocated to Toros..which somewhat explains why Young and Maggette, players highly unlikely to sign D league deals for obvious reasons, were 1st waived, and young guys waived last.

Hoops Czar
10-25-2013, 09:59 PM
The fact that they're shuffling through these guys, like they are, is a bit alarming..seems a bit desperate. Why is it so hard to find a backup Sf?

It's a combination of the Spurs want for "free" what somebody else has to pay for and there are just so few players around the world that fit the Spurs system. The selection process is crazy.

Libri
10-25-2013, 10:05 PM
why do washed up mavericks always end up with the spurs?

It's certainly plausible for Dirk to end up with the Spurs once he's a useless corpse.

ElNono
10-25-2013, 10:11 PM
Nono wouldn't care if the Spurs signed Mr. Hanky.

That's Mr. Hankey... and I would need a reason why he wouldn't be better than, say, DeColo...

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
10-25-2013, 10:12 PM
yikes

elmanutres
10-25-2013, 10:13 PM
It's certainly plausible for Dirk to end up with the Spurs once he's a useless corpse.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Mark-Cuban-disbelief.gif

jeebus
10-25-2013, 10:15 PM
Solid signing... gonna have to up the offseason grade from B+ to A-, tbh...
The lineup of Cory, Nando, Joshua, Matthew, and Jeffrey is really gonna look beautiful on HD television.

HarlemHeat37
10-25-2013, 10:25 PM
:lol all these meltdowns over a potential backup SF that may not even remain on the roster..

It's October 25th, who exactly do people expect the Spurs to sign at this point, tbh?:lol..

I understand the disappointment in the Spurs' lackluster off-season, especially since they had room to improve and separate themselves from the pack, but only on ST is the backup SF position the deal breaker for a championship:lol..

The Spurs are throwing shit on the wall and hoping it sticks, tbh, until a potential amnesty candidate in the stretch run, or they plan on playing Diaw at the backup 3, which is a viable option, tbh..

007nites
10-25-2013, 10:36 PM
So we didn't sign Maggette who was working his ass off and now we sign this guy?

racm
10-25-2013, 10:36 PM
:lol all these meltdowns over a potential backup SF that may not even remain on the roster..

It's October 25th, who exactly do people expect the Spurs to sign at this point, tbh?:lol..

I understand the disappointment in the Spurs' lackluster off-season, especially since they had room to improve and separate themselves from the pack, but only on ST is the backup SF position the deal breaker for a championship:lol..

The Spurs are throwing shit on the wall and hoping it sticks, tbh, until a potential amnesty candidate in the stretch run, or they plan on playing Diaw at the backup 3, which is a viable option, tbh..

Plus, name me a team that has a better starting AND backup SF than San Antonio.

Miami? lol LeBron is a positionless freak

Chicago? lol Leonard > Deng at this point

Brooklyn? Maybe, but Pierce and AK are old

OKC? KD's backup is Ryan G:lolmes

Houston? Parsons is good and Casspi's a deadly shooter and that's it

Golden State? Iguodala + Barnes is scary, but that's it

LAC? Dudley and Matt Barnes are good role players but neither have Kawhi's ceiling.

So I'd say the only teams with an undeniably better SF rotation than SA are Miami (because LeBron), GS, and possibly Brooklyn.

The concern for this team isn't filling up an antiquated depth chart (because Pop doesn't think in terms of PG/SG/SF/PF/C, and I agree because that was made obsolete with the increased reliance on perimeter play) but making sure their top 6 remain healthy.

rastaspur
10-25-2013, 10:38 PM
:lol all these meltdowns over a potential backup SF that may not even remain on the roster..

It's October 25th, who exactly do people expect the Spurs to sign at this point, tbh?:lol..

I understand the disappointment in the Spurs' lackluster off-season, especially since they had room to improve and separate themselves from the pack, but only on ST is the backup SF position the deal breaker for a championship:lol..

The Spurs are throwing shit on the wall and hoping it sticks, tbh, until a potential amnesty candidate in the stretch run, or they plan on playing Diaw at the backup 3, which is a viable option, tbh..

I and i agree. If ayres and baynes prove rotation worthy diaw will log about half his minutes at the three.

rastaspur
10-25-2013, 10:47 PM
That's Mr. Hankey... and I would need a reason why he wouldn't be better than, say, DeColo...
Is mr. Hankey the talking poo or that homos handpuppet? I get confused.
If the former, then he and nando share common traits. Both play like shit. At least the talking poo would literally be guaranteed to leave his mark on the court. It goes without saying that the talking poo would be classified as a streaky shooter.

ElNono
10-25-2013, 10:48 PM
Is mr. Hankey the talking poo or that homos handpuppet? I get confused.
If the former, then he and nando share common traits. Both play like shit. At least the talking will literally leave his mark out on the court.

the former

ElNono
10-25-2013, 10:50 PM
The lineup of Cory, Nando, Joshua, Matthew, and Jeffrey is really gonna look beautiful on HD television.

Throw a Pop interview in the mix and there's fapping material for the whole family...

racm
10-25-2013, 11:26 PM
I don't see what's so bad about this move. He's not eating up our cap with a big contract and he's not starting or playing over a promising young prospect.

In other words, he's not Richard Jefferson.

tesseractive
10-26-2013, 01:55 AM
One of the most disappointing off-seasons in recent memory. We went from having a shot at Ak47 to signing Josh Howard...massive fucking step down.
That's not a step down, it's a cliff dive.

james evans
10-26-2013, 02:01 AM
It's certainly plausible for Dirk to end up with the Spurs once he's a useless corpse.
if he's a useless corpse, that's when we'll sign him. we have a habit of that lately.

gee
10-26-2013, 03:35 AM
:violin we should have got lebron

tenbeersbold
10-26-2013, 03:52 AM
Guess the system he was playing in had nothing to do with his success, huh? Let's compare their stats at the end of this season and see where they are then.

And if you think that Beli can't create, play pnr, defend (a little) and shoot and that Neal can, then you are as big of a dumbass as you seem to be.

Net trollshit is more like it...

Ohh.... don't like FACTS do ya

You can spout off all the dribble you BELIEVE might happen but the FACTS are different right now

Neal is a better player by every NBA stat,you find one just one where he isn't and maybe I'll grant yer pansy ass some credit

Till then.... suck it douchebag

monkeypunk
10-26-2013, 10:55 AM
Ohh.... don't like FACTS do ya

You can spout off all the dribble you BELIEVE might happen but the FACTS are different right now

Neal is a better player by every NBA stat,you find one just one where he isn't and maybe I'll grant yer pansy ass some credit

Till then.... suck it douchebag

If you are just looking at stats then you don't really understand team basketball, internet tough girl. Go troll someone else. The adults are talking...

Darius Bieber
10-26-2013, 11:23 AM
http://i.imgur.com/adhHSs8.jpg

Joyrider
10-26-2013, 11:27 AM
Spurs just trolling their fans now.

manufor3
10-26-2013, 11:30 AM
Just wanted his D-League rights... everybody off the cliff

Rebounds
10-26-2013, 11:40 AM
and he's .....gone?

benefactor
10-26-2013, 11:43 AM
and he's .....gone?
He'll play in the D-League for a rehab stint. If he looks good the Spurs will bring him back up. No risk situation tbh.

DPG21920
10-26-2013, 11:57 AM
Yup - they have been after Josh for years and have remained persistent. I am actually surprised (just look at the interest there was coming off of his last knee surgery) that he opted to take the d-league route.

Raven
10-26-2013, 12:21 PM
i'm happier now

Calispursfan11
10-26-2013, 12:49 PM
:lmao The horse face is finished

Slightly more donkey looking but close

xmas1997
10-26-2013, 01:17 PM
Can we still get Nunnally? If so, will they?

Bruno
10-26-2013, 01:59 PM
It was expected. What Spurs did with Howard exposed a loophole in D-League rules. Rules should change because it isn't good for the simplicity of the NBA to have players signed only for 1 day just to have teams owning their D-League rights.

This move shows that Spurs have some interest in Howard. If he is back at 100% with the Toros in one or two months, Spurs might sign him. It also shows that Spurs haven't given up on getting another SF after the Young and Maggette failure.

ceperez
10-26-2013, 02:19 PM
It was expected. What Spurs did with Howard exposed a loophole in D-League rules. Rules should change because it isn't good for the simplicity of the NBA to have players signed only for 1 day just to have teams owning their D-League rights.

This move shows that Spurs have some interest in Howard. If he is back at 100% with the Toros in one or two months, Spurs might sign him. It also shows that Spurs haven't given up on getting another SF after the Young and Maggette failure.

Is there a limit to how many players you set up like this? Interesting that Maggette didn't go this route.

Darius Bieber
10-26-2013, 02:20 PM
Isn't it the last 3 players you cut that applies to this rule?

Bruno
10-26-2013, 02:21 PM
A reason that could explain Spurs having done that little for the SF spot is that they are just looking at a stopgap. In addition of the very young and talented Leonard, Spurs have in Europe two quality SF/mobile PF with Bertans and Jean-Charles. Spurs might no want to commit assets or long term money for another SF given how loaded could be that position in the future.

Chomag
10-26-2013, 02:27 PM
Still don't understand this move by the FO, they cut Maggette (who is by far the better player) claiming reasons of an injury but then they sign a guy who is in rehab for an injury of his own. This FO needs to step away from the wine bottle for a couple of months at least.

At this stage it would be better to have a young project for that last slot, but who knows I guess maybe J-ho finally got his shit together enough to be a half decent player, and not just a walking useless corpse...

At their ages Maggette > A clean uninjured J-ho

ace3g
10-26-2013, 02:29 PM
Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(http://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Pop on Josh Howard: 'He’s trying see what body feels like,see if he can play at level advantageous for him for another team he could go to,'

Bruno
10-26-2013, 02:31 PM
Is there a limit to how many players you set up like this? Interesting that Maggette didn't go this route.

It's up to three. I guess it will be Howard, Kabongo with the third being Fells or Cousins. It will depend on if they want to go overseas of if they D-League rights are still owned by another team.

Reports said Maggette retired because of health issues. The best for him was likely to retire instead of trying to play through pain to be an end of the bench player. It's even more a smart choice that he has post playing career aspirations with being part of a NBA front office.

ChumpDumper
10-26-2013, 06:49 PM
It's up to three. I guess it will be Howard, Kabongo with the third being Fells or Cousins. It will depend on if they want to go overseas of if they D-League rights are still owned by another team.Cousin has already played for the Toros so I don't think they have to use an allocation spot for him.

Fells hasn't played in the D-League to my knowledge.

TimDunkem
10-26-2013, 08:01 PM
Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(http://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Pop on Josh Howard: 'He’s trying see what body feels like,see if he can play at level advantageous for him for another team he could go to,'


Yep...I thought so.

td4mvp2k
10-26-2013, 08:56 PM
Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA (http://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Pop on Josh Howard: 'He’s trying see what body feels like,see if he can play at level advantageous for him for another team he could go to,':clap

ElNono
10-27-2013, 05:25 PM
Lmao this Spurs team aint going nowhere this season.

I saw Josh Howard play > 40 games for the Jazz, shooting 24% from three and barely-clipping 40% from the field.

Chucking doesn't begin to describe this dude's mentality. Me-first, looks to shoot three times before he passes.


BRUTAL on the fast-break. Will ignore other wide-open teammates in order to get his.

He's so fucking bad, and it warms the cockles of my heart to see him go to the urinal cake of Texas (and all of USA for that matter)

We waived him... makes sense he played for the Jazz before moving up to the D-League though...

ElNono
10-27-2013, 05:29 PM
Lmao he was waived?? Real A- move by Spurs management. LOL.

yeah, we send players that really suck to the D-League or the Jazz... see: Jefferson, Richard

ElNono
10-27-2013, 05:30 PM
l-m-a-o. Cant wait to bump this post in a couple months.

sarcasm. google it.

Kidd K
10-28-2013, 08:09 PM
Wow, can't believe I'm responding to this but you can't actually be serious, can you? Did you not see HWSNBN play in SA? The 3 was all he had left. He couldn't pass, rebound, dunk or even draw fouls any more with that flailing at the basket screaming move we saw over and over and over.

Beli can create, play pnr, defend (a little) and shoot. Neal can shoot and... um... shoot. Even if Beli shooting % is lower than Neal, he brings much more to the game than Neal ever will. Net positive.

I watched every game Belinelli played last season. He was much worse than RJ was his 2nd year with us.

And no he actually doesn't bring much more positive to the game. He can shoot, but worse than Neal and RJ. His greatest strength is shooting. Think about it. His D' is poor too. I don't know how else to explain it besides just say "watch and see".

DrSteffo
10-28-2013, 08:29 PM
Lmao this Spurs team aint going nowhere this season.

I saw Josh Howard play > 40 games for the Jazz, shooting 24% from three and barely-clipping 40% from the field.

Chucking doesn't begin to describe this dude's mentality. Me-first, looks to shoot three times before he passes.


BRUTAL on the fast-break. Will ignore other wide-open teammates in order to get his.

He's so fucking bad, and it warms the cockles of my heart to see him go to the urinal cake of Texas (and all of USA for that matter)

This one is even more retarded and butthurt than your average jazz fan.

Biernutz
06-26-2014, 01:43 AM
I have looked for some story on how Howards rehabilitation went in Austin but could not
find anything......anyone with an update? Is he still with the Spurs?

mavsfan1000
06-26-2014, 01:44 AM
Good signing. Lol

DJR210
06-26-2014, 08:49 AM
I have looked for some story on how Howards rehabilitation went in Austin but could not
find anything......anyone with an update? Is he still with the Spurs?

The update is: he sucks and his pro career is over.