The blame for losing this last championship goes to .......

[xmas1997]

An objective comprehensive view is needed so ......

You've got a whole contingent who only blame Manu.
Another group who only blame Pop.
And another group who blame only Tony.
While another group blames only Kawhi.
And yet another group who blames only Danny.
And still another group who blame only Neal.
plus another group who only blames Tiago.
And then another group who says Cojo did not play enough, or too much.
A couple who say that it is because they did not play Blair.
And a couple more who say it is because they did not play Nando.
And a few who claim they should have played McGrady, Baynes, Mills, and Boris more, and Bonner less.
And even some who blame it only on Timmy.

Excuse my ignorance in all of this, but isn't that pretty much the whole team? :lol
This isn't rocket science, guys.

Does anyone here see how ridiculous and ignorant all this blame casting for the perfect scapegoat is, other than me?
Other teams' fans must be rolling on the floor laughing at us Spur fans for all the backbiting we are doing to each other.
They don't even need to come here and troll us because we are imploding in on ourselves! :lol

[Skull-1]

Manu Ginobili.

[xmas1997]

Manu Ginobili.

I mentioned him above, your contingent is duly represented, as are all the other contingents.
And all are equally valid in your opinions.

[Kool Bob Love]

No Spurs fan has blame shit on GODuncan. Fuck outta here.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Once we lost patty mills to injury... It was over

[xmas1997]

No Spurs fan has blame shit on GODuncan. Fuck outta here.

Your reading comprehension is suffering then, because you must have missed the posts outlining his mistakes.
You have only yourself to blame for that.
I'm just basing this conclusion on the posts and logic posted in this forum.
And that is the facts, Ma'am, not fiction.

[TrainOfThought5]

No Spurs fan has blame shit on GODuncan. Fuck outta here.

[xmas1997]

Wrong!
Go back and read the posts, ........ if you can.
Don't take my word for it. They are all there in black and white.
There are Spurs fans who blamed Timmy.
Whether you like it or not, he was still blamed, their posts are still here.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

No Spurs fan has blame shit on GODuncan. Fuck outta here.

[xmas1997]

You don't read either?
Didn't you learn that in grade school?
I am not making any of this up, the fact is that some on here blamed Timmy.
Live with it.

[james evans]

No Spurs fan has blame shit on GODuncan. Fuck outta here.
i agree. i have seen no such fuckery anywhere. the blame is on popovich 1st and foremost for the many shitty decisions he made in game 6:

benching the starters in the 4th
benching duncan on the defensive end
NOT PUTTING IN THE TOP FREETHROW SHOOTERS AT THE END OF THE GAME
allowing ginobli to keep playing while he was shitty
not fouling or defending the 3 point line at the end of the game


the worst display i've ever seen of coaching in a closeout finals game.

after popovich, i blame ginobli, but if ginobli wasn't in the game, he wouldn't have been fuking up. then he allowed him to play in game 7. there aint a person alive that can pass a 6th grade reading test that didn't know ginobli was gonna play like shit in game 7. who the hell didn't know that? if i were the owner of the team, he would never have played in that game 7. i don't blame leonard cuz i knew he was gonna miss one. he was shooting 60% freethrows for the series. shaq shot 50%. would u let shaq shoot freethrows for u to ice the game? i would have had neal, bonner, and green in the game to catch the ball. i've never seen a coach send out a 60% freethrow shooter to finish the game for them. i've never seen it.

[Marrow]

I point fingers for a living...the busiest time of the year is when something goes horribly wrong

[xmas1997]

i agree. i have seen no such fuckery anywhere. the blame is on popovich 1st and foremost for the many shitty decisions he made in game 6:

benching the starters in the 4th
benching duncan on the defensive end
NOT PUTTING IN THE TOP FREETHROW SHOOTERS AT THE END OF THE GAME
allowing ginobli to keep playing while he was shitty
not fouling or defending the 3 point line at the end of the game


the worst display i've ever seen of coaching in a closeout finals game.

after popovich, i blame ginobli, but if ginobli wasn't in the game, he wouldn't have been fuking up. then he allowed him to play in game 7. there aint a person alive that can pass a 6th grade reading test that didn't know ginobli was gonna play like shit in game 7. who the hell didn't know that? if i were the owner of the team, he would never have played in that game 7.

Still regardless of its validity or not, there are some on here who posted statistical logical arguments and opined that Timmy was to blame. They are here in this forum in black and white, they have not been erased.

My only contention is that so far various Spurs fans have blamed every player on the team plus Pop. Those are the facts. I did not make this up. Again if you don't believe me then go back and read all the posts.

[Libri]

I blame Bonner.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

http://hollywoodnose.com/images/net_worth5/manu-ginobili-wealth/manu-ginobili.jpg

[spurs10]

An objective comprehensive view is needed so ......

You've got a whole contingent who only blame Manu.
Another group who only blame Pop.
And another group who blame only Tony.
While another group blames only Kawhi.
And yet another group who blames only Danny.
And still another group who blame only Neal.
plus another group who only blames Tiago.
And then another group who says Cojo did not play enough, or too much.
A couple who say that it is because they did not play Blair.
And a couple more who say it is because they did not play Nando.
And a few who claim they should have played McGrady, Baynes, Mills, and Boris more, and Bonner less.
And even some who blame it only on Timmy.

Excuse my ignorance in all of this, but isn't that pretty much the whole team? :lol
This isn't rocket science, guys.

Does anyone here see how ridiculous and ignorant all this blame casting for the perfect scapegoat is, other than me?
Other teams' fans must be rolling on the floor laughing at us Spur fans for all the backbiting we are doing to each other.
They don't even need to come here and troll us because we are imploding in on ourselves! :lol Listen, if basketball was a team sport you might have a point, but.....:rolleyes Wait a minute, I see. So you're saying blaming one guy is "ignorant?" Of course it is, but some folks wave their ignorance flag with pride. I like to wave another flag, even though it was a horrible sickening experience watching the champonship slip away. :flag:"It's a new dawn, it's a new day, it's a new life for me and I'm feelin' good."

[xmas1997]

I blame Bonner.

Hell, why not? :lol
Everybody else has been blamed, except for the assistant coaches, R.C., and the Coyote. :lol
Even Stern has been blamed.

[xmas1997]

Listen, if basketball was a team sport you might have a point, but.....:rolleyes Wait a minute, I see. So you're saying blaming one guy is "ignorant?" Of course it is, but some folks wave their ignorance flag with pride. I like to wave another flag, even though it was a horrible sickening experience watching the champonship slip away. :flag:"It's a new dawn, it's a new day, it's a new life for me and I'm feelin' good."

I like your attitude.

[RD2191]

I blame Tony Romo.

[xmas1997]

I blame Tony Romo.

:lol
May as well blame Jack Nicholson.

[spurraider21]

i would like a cast a vote for dumb luck as well. it was a combination of a lot of things. rebounds, free throws, and substitutions

[Skull-1]

i agree. i have seen no such fuckery anywhere. the blame is on popovich 1st and foremost for the many shitty decisions he made in game 6:

benching the starters in the 4th
benching duncan on the defensive end
NOT PUTTING IN THE TOP FREETHROW SHOOTERS AT THE END OF THE GAME
allowing ginobli to keep playing while he was shitty
not fouling or defending the 3 point line at the end of the game


the worst display i've ever seen of coaching in a closeout finals game.

after popovich, i blame ginobli, but if ginobli wasn't in the game, he wouldn't have been fuking up. then he allowed him to play in game 7. there aint a person alive that can pass a 6th grade reading test that didn't know ginobli was gonna play like shit in game 7. who the hell didn't know that? if i were the owner of the team, he would never have played in that game 7. i don't blame leonard cuz i knew he was gonna miss one. he was shooting 60% freethrows for the series. shaq shot 50%. would u let shaq shoot freethrows for u to ice the game? i would have had neal, bonner, and green in the game to catch the ball. i've never seen a coach send out a 60% freethrow shooter to finish the game for them. i've never seen it.


Best post ever.

[xmas1997]

i would like a cast a vote for dumb luck as well. it was a combination of a lot of things. rebounds, free throws, and substitutions

Luck always has something to do with it.

But did't the Heat also have the 5th ranked defense, and the 5th ranked offense? Not too shabby. It would be really naive to think that did not have something to do with them winning.

[lefty]

We lost becasue he is the One


http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/02/this_sums_up_lebron_vs_kobe-32354.gif

[spurraider21]

Luck always has something to do with it.

But did't the Heat also have the 5th ranked defense, and the 5th ranked offense? Not too shabby. It would be really naive to think that did not have something to do with them winning.
their ranking on offense or defense doesn't have anything to do with us missing 2 free throws, either of which that would have won the championship. it also has nothing to do with them missing 2 three pointers and getting the rebound both times. i blame pop for those defensive possessions, sure. but its hard to look away from the fact that me had 2 free throws miss, when EITHER would have sealed the championship. sasha vujacic did it for the Lakers in '10

[Hoops Czar]

I'd like to know one person who blamed the series loss on De Colo (not including PlayNando) or Blair for that matter? You can't put the blame on a player who doesn't play. If someone is to blame at all, it would have to be the individual who chose not to play them and in this case, it's Pop.

While were playing the blame game, you could have included RC Buford, who probably could have done a better job during last year's off season and trade deadline. or the fans, who could have cheered a little bit louder during the second half of game 4. Maybe, you could even blame the locals posting in here that chose to watch the game on their HD plasma TV screen rather than fill those empty seats way up in the rafters. But, it could be the economies fault for why those seats were left vacant. Obama is the reason the economy is in such bad shape. So, ultimately, Obama was the reason the spurs lost the finals.

[Juggity]

Excuse my ignorance in all of this, but isn't that pretty much the whole team?

Well, to put it bluntly, no. It's not the fault of the whole team.

Some players showed up to the finals in a big way, and some did not.

Tim, DG, Gary Neal, Boris, Kawhi, and TP showed up when it mattered. It's a matter of factual inaccuracy to blame them.

[GoodOdor]

Well, to put it bluntly, no. It's not the fault of the whole team.

Some players showed up to the finals in a big way, and some did not.

Tim, DG, Gary Neal, Boris, Kawhi, and TP showed up when it mattered. It's a matter of factual inaccuracy to blame them.

6-23 is considered "showing up when it mattered"?:lol

[kobyz]

op is a troll!

[Capt Bringdown]

All somebody had to do was to merely hold back on a few dumb passes, and the championship was ours.
We all know who that somebody was and is.

[james evans]

All somebody had to do was to merely hold back on a few dumb passes, and the championship was ours.
We all know who that somebody was and is.
u can't be talking about ginobli. i mean, he's been underpaid and under appreciated his whole career. even now at 7 million per year is way low than he deserves..

(according a a few posters here)

[xmas1997]

[QUOTE=kobyz. OP is a troll![/QUOTE]

I am a troll?
Why, because I don't play your little "woe is me" emo BS?
So are you blaming me now for the Spurs loss too?
This is beyond the absurd, it is infantile.
It is foolish to even acknowledge your posts anymore because everyone here knows your stench!
Calling it like it is!

Concerning the Nando question, no one blamed him. What I read was that they blamed "not playing him" for the loss.

As everyone who can read can easily see, blame is touching almost everyone, so it is ludicrous to place it on one or two people. One person sarcastically even goes so far as to blame R.C., the fans in the arena and watching on TV, the U.S. Government, and Obama. :lol

The ones responsible for acting like spoiled children know who they are, so grow up and start acting like adults!

What happened to the "classy" Spurs fans?

Does anyone besides me see how ridiculous and thoroughly childish all this "blame game" is?

Sorry for stepping on anyone's toes when I say this, but it goes way beyond ignorance.
And to keep doing it smacks squarely on the head of obsession and idiocy, bordering on delusional lunacy.

IMHO it is time to put the whole blame issue to rest, unless you want to keep making a total fool of yourself, because the reality is is that is all you are accomplishing! And if you do not care whether anyone takes you seriously in the future, then by all means keep up the BS. :hat

I am calling it like it is, but I have no doubts that many on here will try to deflect their own infantilism onto me for being so bluntly honest in saying all this, or they may fail in claiming I am whining about all the whiners whining, I am merely "calling it as it is" and as bluntly as possible!
So if you can't stand the heat, folks, then get out of the kitchen, in this case SpursTalk! :lol
:flag:

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Best post ever.

... if it was accurate..

18 points 5 assists faggot

[kobyz]

Op! Your post is garbage, stupid, very demagoguery... that is why you are a troll!

[wildcardX]

The Spurs had the same chance as Miami to win that game in overtime or to win game 7. Why dwell on the end of regulation in game 6? If the Spurs were the better team they would've taken care of business and either won the game in overtime or game 7. They had their chances, now time to move on to this year.

[ElNono]

:lol this thread

[monkeypunk]

The OP's mom is who I blame.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Why start this thread? Seriously, gtfoh!

[TrainOfThought5]

We lost becasue he is the One


http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/02/this_sums_up_lebron_vs_kobe-32354.gif

Fucking. Priceless.

[xmas1997]

Op! Your post is garbage, stupid, very demagoguery... that is why you are a troll!

If I am a troll as you claim, then why are you asking a troll a question?
Any first grader will tell you you will get a trollish response back.
Seems rather foolish, don't you think?



Why start this thread? Seriously, gtfoh!


Why?
I explained that already or did you miss the post.
Just for you: to compile all the posts assigning blame in order to show the foolishness of it all and thus hopefully to put this whole "blame game" to rest. When things are put in proper perspective, most reasonable people will see the error of continuing to post BS, or look absolutely foolish otherwise.

[Spursone]

Manupovich!

[Skull-1]

All somebody had to do was to merely hold back on a few dumb passes, and the championship was ours.
We all know who that somebody was and is.

Apparently we all don't. You and I do but the other morons have no clue. Cd021 has some "advanced stats" that "prove" that particular player "didn't really hurt us."

[PlayNando]

The blame lies on Pop's shoulders for not playing Nando...

That fker let his anti-French nationalism blind him. Makes me sick, tbh...

[Skull-1]

... if it was accurate..

18 points 5 assists faggot


Four turnovers and three ridiculous downtown bricks while clinging for dear life, ahole.



Eight turnovers with only nine points, jerkoff, making Game Seven necessary in the first place. Stfu idiot homer.

[wildcardX]

The blame lies on Pop's shoulders for not playing Nando...

That fker let his anti-French nationalism blind him. Makes me sick, tbh...

DAMN YOU POP !!!! http://acynicalview.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/star-trek-2-khan-570x407.jpg

[Juggity]

6-23 is considered "showing up when it mattered"?:lol

Did Lakerfan just set up a trap for himself? 6-23 is perilously close to and marginally better than 6-24.

[GoodOdor]

Did Lakerfan just set up a trap for himself? 6-23 is perilously close to and marginally better than 6-24.

So Parker played by a **** hair less shitty than Kobe did - what's your point, spur fan?

[pgardn]

Lebron James

[AchillesHeel]

Manu fucked upPERIOD.

[Embedded]

I think Mr. Parker's calf injury due to Andrew Bogut of the Warriors was the culprit.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Really, nobody. Fate is already set in stone, we are just along for the ride. Just be glad that fate had D-rob going down a with back injury and the Spurs getting Duncan. That D'Antoni, the Spurs Head Scout, recommended Manu to us, that the Celtics passed on Tony Parker, the Heat didn't resign Bowen, etc. etc.

24 years and only missing the playoffs once (which netted the Spurs Duncan), and people complain. Dude, just be glad you aren't a Bobcats, Clippers, Kings, Pelicans, Jazz, Nets, Cavaliers, Pacers, Magic, Nuggets, Warriors, T'Wolves, Suns, Grizzlies, Wizards, Raptors.... Teams that have never even won 1 championship and have missed the playoffs quite a bit these past 24 years.

[xmas1997]

Really, nobody. Fate is already set in stone, we are just along for the ride. Just be glad that fate had D-rob going down a with back injury and the Spurs getting Duncan. That D'Antoni, the Spurs Head Scout, recommended Manu to us, that the Celtics passed on Tony Parker, the Heat didn't resign Bowen, etc. etc.

24 years and only missing the playoffs once (which netted the Spurs Duncan), and people complain. Dude, just be glad you aren't a Bobcats, Clippers, Kings, Pelicans, Jazz, Nets, Cavaliers, Pacers, Magic, Nuggets, Warriors, T'Wolves, Suns, Grizzlies, Wizards, Raptors.... Teams that have never even won 1 championship and have missed the playoffs quite a bit these past 24 years.

I just wish we could add the Mavs to that list, it still irks me that they won one. The only one on that team who deserved a ring was Dirk.

[hater]

ya, we didn't lose cause of manu. and the germans didn't bomb perl harbour :rollyes

[Skull-1]

I think Mr. Parker's calf injury due to Andrew Bogut of the Warriors was the culprit.
He faked that just like Wade faked it.

[HI-FI]

everyone made mistakes, including the Heat obviously, but the biggest culprits were Manu and Pop.

Pop because he got scared and played not to lose, which happens to a lot of great coaches. Instead of going for the throat he sat the starters too long, pulling Duncan etc....

Manu because he played to lose, you can't be that reckless with the ball and expect to win shit.

[xmas1997]

ya, we didn't lose cause of manu. and the germans didn't bomb perl harbour :rollyes

:lmao

That was funny, truly, I wish I had thought of that. I knew you had a sense of humor, so you are not all bad.
But sorry, the correlation is waaaaaay off base. Classic fail. But the humor is right on.
Just calling it like it is. :lol

[Skull-1]

:lmao

That was funny, truly, I wish I had thought of that. I knew you had a sense of humor, so you are not all bad.
But sorry, the correlation is waaaaaay off base. Classic fail. But the humor is right on.
Just calling it like it is. :lol


^ Never saw ANIMAL HOUSE.

[xmas1997]

^ Never saw ANIMAL HOUSE.


I have the DVD. IMHO the best flick John Belushi ever did.