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N0 LyF3 ScRuB
10-29-2013, 12:13 PM
Let's have another legit convo here.. Who was better in their prime?

AchillesHeel
10-29-2013, 12:18 PM
AI was so fucking inefficient though, his numbers look nice until you see his fg%

averaged 29,6 ppg on 41,7% shooting and 30,5% from 3 for his 8 best seasons (counted from his scoring title year in 99 to the 33 ppg season in 06)

Kirby's prime I also picked 8 seasons, from his 00-01 season to his MVP year

29 ppg on 45,4% shooting and 34% from 3

Kirby also averaged 1.9 more rebounds per game and only averaged .6 apg less per game than Iverson.

It's a no-brainer, imo.

ambchang
10-29-2013, 01:05 PM
While it was well documented that both are highly inefficient players who benefited greatly from a soft league that opened up the perimeter for higher ratings, I will have to pick Kobe on this one despite AI being one of my favourite players to watch.

Ai's highest WS season was 00-01, in which he had 11.8 WS (0.190 WS/48). The self-proclaimed Black Mamba (not to be mistaken for a female fictional character) had 6 seasons of > 11.8 WS, and 9 seasons of > 0.190 WS/48 seasons.

From a winning perspective though, AI was able to drag a bunch of role players to the finals, while Kobe, with a similar supporting cast, couldn't even crack the playoffs. I can never really understand this part though.

Buddy Mignon
10-29-2013, 01:17 PM
While it was well documented that both are highly inefficient players who benefited greatly from a soft league that opened up the perimeter for higher ratings, I will have to pick Kobe on this one despite AI being one of my favourite players to watch.

Ai's highest WS season was 00-01, in which he had 11.8 WS (0.190 WS/48). The self-proclaimed Black Mamba (not to be mistaken for a female fictional character) had 6 seasons of > 11.8 WS, and 9 seasons of > 0.190 WS/48 seasons.

From a winning perspective though, AI was able to drag a bunch of role players to the finals, while Kobe, with a similar supporting cast, couldn't even crack the playoffs. I can never really understand this part though.

There's nothing wrong with proclaiming yourself as such and such. Ali proclaimed himself the greatest. Shaq proclaimed himself the most dominate. Duncan proclaimed himself as Merlin.

ambchang
10-29-2013, 01:31 PM
There's nothing wrong with proclaiming yourself as such and such. Ali proclaimed himself the greatest. Shaq proclaimed himself the most dominate. Duncan proclaimed himself as Merlin.

I was worried that retards would think that I am saying Kobe was an actual snake because Kobestans would take offense to the most minute of phrases and take it as an insult, but then you somehow took a fact as some sort of an insult.

spurraider21
10-29-2013, 01:50 PM
Kobe. he better identified dominant bigs to play with whereas iverson ended up hitching his wagons to fucking carmelo

Mugen
10-29-2013, 01:54 PM
One's an inefficient chucker who was gifted an MVP award because of his coach's system and the other is Allen Iverson, tbh. Tough choice but give me Kirby.

baseline bum
10-29-2013, 01:58 PM
Sorry bro; only thing Iverson has on Bryant is lyrical skill.

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resistanze
10-29-2013, 02:13 PM
Sorry bro; only thing Iverson has on Bryant is lyrical skill.

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:lmao @ Kobe's delivery

A.I came hard though.

Captivus
10-29-2013, 03:08 PM
Hard to tell...
Im going with Kobe but...I wonder what AI could have done if playing with Shaq/Paul...

LkrFan
10-29-2013, 05:16 PM
:rolleyes

lefty
10-29-2013, 05:17 PM
Hard to tell...
Im going with Kobe but...I wonder what AI could have done if playing with Shaq/Paul...
7 titles imo

Leetonidas
10-29-2013, 05:20 PM
I dislike the rapist as much as the next guy but this isn't even a question. AI makes Kobe look like Kevin Durant efficiency wise. AI's chucking would make Kobe blush imo