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ElNono
10-30-2013, 12:31 AM
15 pts, 13 reb in just under 25 mins...

You gotta wonder why Mike D doesn't use him more when the team is whole, tbh...

Chief Brody
10-30-2013, 12:34 AM
+/- was -2 and the Lakers went on their game-sealing run without him. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Bynumite
10-30-2013, 12:36 AM
He still looked scared of any shot near the rim tbh.

HI-FI
10-30-2013, 12:37 AM
MVP salvaged Kobe's career when it was spiraling downward. He's also the reason 99% of the Laker fans showed up here, thus giving more exposure to timvp and Kori's website. absolute respect for MVPau.

DMC
10-30-2013, 12:37 AM
15 pts, 13 reb in just under 25 mins...

You gotta wonder why Mike D doesn't use him more when the team is whole, tbh...

The team is whole tbh...

ElNono
10-30-2013, 12:38 AM
+/- was -2 and the Lakers went on their game-sealing run without him. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're correct, though he was the one holding the fort when the game started. His +/- got slammed when the Clipps made their run, but he had a solid game. Only Laker with double-digit rebounds.

Chief Brody
10-30-2013, 12:41 AM
You're correct, though he was the one holding the fort when the game started. His +/- got slammed when the Clipps made their run, but he had a solid game. Only Laker with double-digit rebounds.

He was very good, but D'Antoni brought the Pop managing minute goods in that game. He's getting older, so any time he plays under 35 minutes and the Lakers win is a godsend--and will probably happen only a handful of times this year.

DMC
10-30-2013, 12:51 AM
Don't you know Mike D would absolutely love to have a winning record without Kobe Bryant? He'd probably coach for free just to get that point across.

Rogue
10-30-2013, 07:33 AM
Pau shows he's still capable of balling tbh. and the extra fat around his belly only turns out to be helpful when he settles at the C

Bynumite
11-02-2013, 12:17 AM
lolvagina

lefty
11-02-2013, 12:20 AM
He almost led them to a win tonight

Lakers' ALPHA MALE !

HI-FI
11-02-2013, 12:21 AM
Bynumite, salty as usual. He's only here because of MVPau and throwing him under the bus per par.

Bynumite
11-02-2013, 12:22 AM
Bynumite, salty as usual. He's only here because of MVPau and throwing him under the bus per par.

If he keeps shooting jumpers and playing nowhere near the rim like a vagina, i will gladly throw him under the bus tbh.

TDMVPDPOY
11-02-2013, 12:24 AM
interesting how they continue to blame d12 for paus struggles, when there is another ball hog on the team that never gets the blame...

HI-FI
11-02-2013, 12:26 AM
interesting how they continue to blame d12 for paus struggles, when there is another ball hog on the team that never gets the blame...

:crythat's because he plays through injuries

:cryand his desire to win is only matched by his desire to rape.

Bynumite
11-02-2013, 12:29 AM
interesting how they continue to blame d12 for paus struggles, when there is another ball hog on the team that never gets the blame...

Ball hog didn't play the last 7 games, you chink piece of shit and we are 1-6 in those games faggot.

Mugen
11-02-2013, 12:36 AM
Damn, salty as fuck already after the 3rd game of the season. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the season tbh.

Mugen
11-02-2013, 12:37 AM
Pau has to spend the twilight of his career watching Swaggy P and Xavier Henry shoot step-back fadeaways. Pretty sad tbh.

ElNono
11-02-2013, 12:38 AM
Pau with the double-double tonight, willing the Lakeshow to a close game while Nash and Swaggy P both quit in crunchtime...

Don't mind salty lakerfuck, tbh...

Mugen
11-02-2013, 12:39 AM
Steve Nash gettin paid 9mil to sleep on the baseline :lol

ElNono
11-02-2013, 12:40 AM
Steve Nash gettin paid 9mil to sleep on the baseline :lol

:lmao somebody gotta photoshop Nash pitching a tent on the baseline, heating up some marshmallows...

Katherine Robinson
11-02-2013, 12:41 AM
Pau with the double-double tonight, willing the Lakeshow to a close game while Nash and Swaggy P both quit in crunchtime...

Don't mind salty lakerfuck, tbh...

Only Kevin and his belief that Kaman will be the #1 big this year is salty, everybody else is surprised it wasn't a blowout. I am sure Cobbler is doubling his blood pressure meds, though.

Brunodf
11-02-2013, 01:13 AM
Lakers wasted big bucks on deadweight tbh
Nash+Kaman+Kobe= 43 million

AchillesHeel
11-02-2013, 05:47 AM
:lmao somebody gotta photoshop Nash pitching a tent on the baseline, heating up some marshmallows...

:lmao Nono back in mid-season form

jeebus
11-02-2013, 08:43 AM
good job by Paussy and Cuman holding Tiago, a guy who struggles to get 5 or 6 rebs, to 14 rebounds

Bill_Brasky
11-02-2013, 10:13 AM
:lol fredo
:lol building an NBA roster around an old injury prone pile of shit
:lol no valuable youth or player development
:lol not knowing wtf you're doing
:lol Nash's deadbeat dad corpse logging 25+ mins a night
:lol "go, go go!" passes for coaching in Lakerland these days

ElNono
11-03-2013, 11:58 PM
:worthy:

Raven
11-03-2013, 11:59 PM
delivering tbh

ElNono
11-03-2013, 11:59 PM
16/13 in 27 mins... game winning freebies and block to seal the deal....

Clipper Nation
11-03-2013, 11:59 PM
MVPau with the clutch FT's and block.... we are all witnesses! :wow

Deuce Bigalow
11-05-2013, 10:55 PM
Might get his first MVP vote this season

Rogue
11-06-2013, 06:33 AM
yet dude was still made a bitch yet again by our German Allah.

LkrFan
11-06-2013, 07:07 AM
-15 points for this thread. :lol

Killakobe81
11-06-2013, 07:24 AM
Fuck yo thread, clown!!!
16 rings bitch!
LOL, we suck

Bill_Brasky
11-06-2013, 09:43 AM
derk plers

ElNono
11-13-2013, 11:44 PM
25/12/3/1 in 30 mins :wow

Killakobe81
11-13-2013, 11:54 PM
25/12/3/1 in 30 mins :wow

Nice last 2 games were impressive

Deuce Bigalow
11-14-2013, 12:04 AM
25/12/3/1 in 30 mins :wow
25 points on 27 shots :wow Somebody give this man an MVP already

ElNono
11-14-2013, 12:17 AM
:lol now kobestans have a problem with the number of shots taken

http://icanhasinternets.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/haters.gif

ambchang
11-18-2013, 07:58 AM
Near triple double. Blks and stls.

Total gangsta.

Deserves a bump to honour the leader of a two time championship team.

AchillesHeel
11-18-2013, 08:10 AM
Pau is averaging nearly 11 rebounds per game(was 8.6 last year) and his blocks have gone up a little, but he's the 2nd/3rd best player on the team right now, which is somewhat embarrassing, considering Meeks and Blake are the two that are arguably better than him so far.

Meeks is averaging 13.7 ppg on 52,8% FG and 49,2% from 3
Blake is averaging 9.8 ppg with 46,4% from 3, 3.2 reb, 7.3 ast and only 1.8 TOV

Killakobe81
11-18-2013, 09:47 AM
Pau is averaging nearly 11 rebounds per game(was 8.6 last year) and his blocks have gone up a little, but he's the 2nd/3rd best player on the team right now, which is somewhat embarrassing, considering Meeks and Blake are the two that are arguably better than him so far.

Meeks is averaging 13.7 ppg on 52,8% FG and 49,2% from 3
Blake is averaging 9.8 ppg with 46,4% from 3, 3.2 reb, 7.3 ast and only 1.8 TOV

comedy. At least Achiiles gives him praise for what he does well Rebound. He is also still a great passer ...but because he is shooting so poorly on some nights, it becomes less effective ... if he were more aggressive it would make him more effective as a facilitator.

I like Pau, great player seems like an intelligent dude. He could really be a huge asset as a #3 on a legit contender.

Amb with the bads trying to bait Kobe fans with revisionist history ...

Jodelo
11-18-2013, 11:16 AM
25 points on 27 shots :wow

Oh, the irony...

whitemamba
11-18-2013, 12:43 PM
Pau is averaging nearly 11 rebounds per game(was 8.6 last year) and his blocks have gone up a little, but he's the 2nd/3rd best player on the team right now, which is somewhat embarrassing, considering Meeks and Blake are the two that are arguably better than him so far.

Meeks is averaging 13.7 ppg on 52,8% FG and 49,2% from 3
Blake is averaging 9.8 ppg with 46,4% from 3, 3.2 reb, 7.3 ast and only 1.8 TOV

:lol

pau is shooting 39% while leading the team in field goal attempts.... crofl at this one tbh

Jodelo
11-18-2013, 12:48 PM
Why do Lakersfans care about percentages now?

whitemamba
11-18-2013, 12:57 PM
Why do Lakersfans care about percentages now?

apparently people dont understand things said unless a stat is mentioned.

AchillesHeel
11-18-2013, 01:21 PM
:lol

pau is shooting 39% while leading the team in field goal attempts.... crofl at this one tbh

crofl at my post...or the thread in general? Like I said, Blake and Meeks have arguably been a bigger factor than Pau :lol, but his fg% will come around

It's funny how Lakerfans care about percentages when it doesn't have anything to do with Kirby :toast

whitemamba
11-18-2013, 01:24 PM
crofl at my post...or the thread in general? Like I said, Blake and Meeks have arguably been a bigger factor than Pau :lol, but his fg% will come around

It's funny how Lakerfans care about percentages when it doesn't have anything to do with Kirby :toast

that post, his FG% has been declining since 2011, hes gotten slower, softer, just worse in general. Stats dont favor a jump shooting gaurd, but one of the most talented centers in the league shooting under 40%? a center? He needs to come around fast we need him.

Clipper Nation
11-18-2013, 01:48 PM
:lmao Kirbystan
:lmao FG% only matters when it can be used to shit on Kirby's teammates and prop up Kirby

hater
11-18-2013, 02:47 PM
:lol now kobestans have a problem with the number of shots taken

http://icanhasinternets.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/haters.gif

:lmao

Captivus
11-18-2013, 07:47 PM
25 points on 27 shots :wow Somebody give this man an MVP already

This post is gonna hunt you forever. Don't waste time and make another user.

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Deuce Bigalow
11-18-2013, 07:56 PM
Excuse me what's the problem?

Pau this year: 13.0 ppg on 13.5 fga

Kobe last year: 27.3 ppg on 20.4 fga

At least have a PPS of over 1

ambchang
11-18-2013, 10:16 PM
Suddenly fg% and MVP votes are useful gauges for measuring the effectiveness of a player.

At least we haven't heard 5>2 yet.

ElNono
11-23-2013, 01:02 AM
:wow 24/10, leading his team to a win against the division leader, while raising money for Spoelstra's children... unlike the snitches and low lifes that pollute the NBA, Pau also showing his leadership skills on and off the court...

How under-appreciated is this guy?

Holden_Caulfield
11-23-2013, 01:03 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2517195/roseclaps.gif

ElNono
11-23-2013, 01:05 AM
403213221382742016

:worthy:

Splits
11-23-2013, 01:05 AM
raising money for Spoelstra's children

:lmao

Holden_Caulfield
11-23-2013, 01:06 AM
24k
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2517195/roseclaps.gif

irishock
11-23-2013, 01:07 AM
while raising money for Spoelstra's children

:lol

Bynumite
11-23-2013, 01:08 AM
:wow 24/10, leading his team to a win against the division leader, while raising money for Spoelstra's children... unlike the snitches and low lifes that pollute the NBA, Pau also showing his leadership skills on and off the court...

How under-appreciated is this guy?

Well, he deserves to get shit on when he's putting up career lows and Blake and Meeks are leading the team in scoring but tonight i give him props :toast

racm
11-23-2013, 01:08 AM
while raising money for Spoelstra's children

:rollin

DMC
11-23-2013, 02:30 AM
It's amazing what you can do when your cancer is in remission.

Brunodf
11-23-2013, 02:51 AM
Kobe-less Lakers just beating the teams they are supposed to beat tbh

jimbo
11-23-2013, 02:54 AM
while raising money for Spoelstra's children

:rollin:lol:rollin

hater
11-23-2013, 03:24 AM
finally some class in the purple n gold. the ol'sport is classy imo

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 12:24 AM
Wow MVPau!

ElNono
11-25-2013, 12:38 AM
20/10 again, shooting 50%... putting the team on his shoulders and carrying them to .500.... even the haters starting to see the light, tbh...

Bynumite
11-25-2013, 12:42 AM
Pau >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TOSB cuck imho.

Arnold Toht
11-25-2013, 12:48 AM
Pau >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TOSB cuck imho.

In game 7 of the Finals, definitely.

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 12:48 AM
Pau >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TOSB cuck imho.
Was Duncan a better defending version of Pau Gasol in his prime? Very similar numbers tbh, Duncan just got a little more volume on offense and was a better defender.

Arnold Toht
11-25-2013, 12:48 AM
But, the Spaniard's record in the playoffs w/o Kobe is 0&16.


Makes me wonder.

ElNono
11-25-2013, 12:58 AM
I would agree that Pau started better than Timmy this season, sure...

When Pau is not actively being sabotaged by certain teammate, he's a great player, tbh...

ElNono
11-25-2013, 01:00 AM
Pau never missed the playoffs in his prime...

Makes me wonder

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 01:00 AM
I would agree that Pau started better than Timmy this season, sure...

When Pau is not actively being sabotaged by certain teammate, he's a great player, tbh...
Yeah because Pau didn't have his best seasons with Kobe...

ElNono
11-25-2013, 01:01 AM
Yeah because Pau didn't have his best seasons with Kobe...

Not sure about that... he certainly had his best seasons with Derek Fisher and Phil Jackson....

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 01:10 AM
Not sure about that... he certainly had his best seasons with Derek Fisher and Phil Jackson....
What about the team leader in assists tbh?

ElNono
11-25-2013, 01:15 AM
What about the team leader in assists tbh?

What about him?

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 01:45 AM
What about him?
Most of those assists were to Pau tbh

ElNono
11-25-2013, 01:55 AM
Most of those assists were to Pau tbh

Well, we already know what a season without Phil and Fish looks like... you know, last season... definitely far from the best of Pau's career...

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 02:21 AM
Well, we already know what a season without Phil and Fish looks like... you know, last season... definitely far from the best of Pau's career...
I forgot how dominant he was in the 2011 playoffs. Phil giving him bumps for his greatness.

Cry Havoc
11-25-2013, 02:22 AM
Amazing the numbers this "soft" big man that "needs to be traded ASAP" puts up when he actually gets the ball. Just astonishing. It's almost like he's always been a really, really, really, really good player that got thrown under the bus a lot. For *some* reason.

AchillesHeel
11-25-2013, 02:42 AM
b2b 20 and 10 games

but, but, Pau is soft and overrated

HI-FI
11-25-2013, 02:45 AM
Pau never missed the playoffs in his prime...

Makes me wonder

exactly. if he had bitched his way onto a franchise that gets more hookups than anyone else, it's crazy to think what his ceiling could have been.

still, good to see Laker fans finally learn to appreciate MVPau, even though he subconsciously motivated them to join this site. still, better late than never.

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 03:07 AM
Amazing the numbers this "soft" big man that "needs to be traded ASAP" puts up when he actually gets the ball. Just astonishing. It's almost like he's always been a really, really, really, really good player that got thrown under the bus a lot. For *some* reason.
He's been getting the ball plenty every game

His FGA per game was higher than his PPG for a while, It wasn't until these past 2 games that got his PPG higher than his FGA/gm.

ElNono
11-25-2013, 03:38 AM
I forgot how dominant he was in the 2011 playoffs. Phil giving him bumps for his greatness.

That was a 57 win team that made the 2nd round... and while he struggled a bit in the playoffs, he averaged 18/13 during the season... definitely closer to his better season than his worst...

Bill_Brasky
11-25-2013, 03:43 AM
lakerfans don't deserve Pau.

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 04:16 AM
That was a 57 win team that made the 2nd round... and while he struggled a bit in the playoffs, he averaged 18/13 during the season... definitely closer to his better season than his worst...
What years do you think he was robbed of the MVP?

whitemamba
11-25-2013, 04:35 AM
lakerfans don't deserve Pau.

$!9 million a year.. hes getting paid tbh

DMC
11-25-2013, 09:18 AM
What years do you think he was robbed of the MVP?

Since you go by points scored and not efficiency only when it suits your argument, probably never. If we were to be honest though, Pau could have very easily gotten the MVP in at least one of the Finals. He shut down KG, basically destroyed him in rebounds and points, and was very efficient in the process. Kobe just volume shot his way to the MVP.

DMC
11-25-2013, 09:22 AM
Here's a neat little article from back when it happened:

http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/6/19/pau-gasol-the-real-finals-mvp.html

Congratulations to Los Angeles on winning consecutive titles, but we need to clear up a little matter called the Finals MVP Award. As much as Kobe Bryant seems like an obvious selection because he's the team's most lauded player and he averaged 28.6 points per, he clearly was not the Lakers' best player in the 2010 Finals. That player was Pau Gasol.
The most straight-forward way of looking at this debate is that the series was decided by defense and rebounding. It was a low-scoring, poorly shot affair all around, and the Lakers won the rebounding battle by a landslide in their four wins. Gasol was by far their most impressive rebounder in the series, leading everyone in both the amount he collected and his skill in doing so in the trenches, picking up the tough ones in traffic (not the long caroms that guards usually end up with). On top of that, his strong interior defense set the tone for the Lakers, who rode their defense to the championship; Bryant spent the series playing centerfield far off of Rajon Rondo, certainly not a stopper or defensive game-changer in any capacity.

Statistically, Gasol's input in his Lakers' title defense was significantly more important than that of Bryant. Obviously Kobe's 29 points per look better than Gasol's 19, but it was simply the result of shooting an insane amount of shots at a low percentage. Although the Lakers shot a pitiful 41% over their seven games with Boston, Bryant actually made things worse by shooting 40% (66-163). Not only that, but in a series full of close fourth-quarter battles, Bryant shot an abysmal 31% (11-36) in the games' final periods. Gasol connected on a team-high 48% from the field, hitting 43 of 90 attempts. His efficiency from the field was instrumental in stressing a tight Boston defense.

From a distribution/running-the-O standpoint, Gasol far trumped Kobe in the Finals. The big Spaniard lead the entire Laker squad with a phenomenal 26-13 (2.0) assist-turnover rate. He did a great job passing out of double teams, passing out of the low-post, high-post, perimeter, etc. The only player to accrue more assists on LA was the primary ball handler, Bryant, who handed out one more, 27. Unfortunately for the team, he also turned the ball over 27 times for a terrible 1.0 ratio. It could have been much worse if his teammates didn't hustle to retain possession on numerous Bryant passes that were tipped away by the Celtics into random spaces each game. Offensively, there is no question that Gasol was far more important to the overall success and effectiveness of the Lakers' attack.

Considering the winner of all seven games was also the team that lead each contest in rebounds, this part of their games cannot be overlooked. Gasol was the top rebounder by quite a substantial margin for the series, snagging 11.6 boards per, including an incredible 5.0 offensive each night. With the rest of the Lakers shooting such a low percentage from the field, Gasol's offensive rebounds and the subsequent second-chance points alone were regularly the difference between winning and losing. He surpassed his rebound average in four of the seven games, so there were no single-game totals that pushed his average so high.

Bryant chipped in with an impressive 8.0 rebounds per, including 1.7 offensive, but it should be pointed out he met or exceeded that average only twice. A few outliers skewed his average above a true indication of what he contributed in this category. Not only that, most of Gasol's boards were grabbed in the middle of hard-fought scrums in the paint, whereas Bryant's were usually of the long-bounce-right-to-him variety.

Defensively, Gasol's man-to-man defense is alright, but his ability to energetically block and redirect shots was unparalleled, blocking 18 for the series (2.6 per) and persuading multiple potential shots to not be taken. A big man's defensive presence is always more valuable than a wing's because they have to help clean up the mess opposing guards make when they drive into the paint. That being said, Bryant's defense wasn't responsible for much in the series. He guarded Rajon Rondo, who can't shoot, by hanging out in the lane; Bryant rarely had to hustle or be responsible for containing any tough plays. Rondo still ended up averaging 14 points and 8 assists for the series. Bryant did get credit for 15 steals over the seven games, 8 of which came in two home contests when any deflections caused by his teammates' hustle were given to him if LA's stats keepers determined he gained possession in the end. NBA stats keepers, who work for individual clubs, are allowed a lot of leeway in determining who to give credit for steals, which is why it's one of the most home-oriented statistics for star players.

Pau Gasol was clearly the most impressive player in the 2010 Finals and deserved to win the Bill Russell MVP Award. This is not a slight to Bryant, it's just that Gasol is that good. He is the only other player in the best-big-in-the-league discussion with Dwight Howard. Duncan's slowing speed has taken away a lot of his defense, and Chris Bosh is neither a defender, passer, winner, or much more than a pedestrian shooter inside. On the other hand, the best perimeter player in the league is an argument involving Chris Paul, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Kevin Durant, maybe Jason Kidd, and Bryant.

Gasol is doing some special things right now that have brought the Lakers out of their three-year .500-ball funk and into a great stretch of Finals runs that includes two titles. It's time he got his due.

Rogue
11-25-2013, 10:03 AM
Pau never missed the playoffs in his prime...

Makes me wonder
The prime Pau playing in Memphis never won a single game in the playoffs either

AchillesHeel
11-25-2013, 10:06 AM
Here's a neat little article from back when it happened:

http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/6/19/pau-gasol-the-real-finals-mvp.html

Congratulations to Los Angeles on winning consecutive titles, but we need to clear up a little matter called the Finals MVP Award. As much as Kobe Bryant seems like an obvious selection because he's the team's most lauded player and he averaged 28.6 points per, he clearly was not the Lakers' best player in the 2010 Finals. That player was Pau Gasol.
The most straight-forward way of looking at this debate is that the series was decided by defense and rebounding. It was a low-scoring, poorly shot affair all around, and the Lakers won the rebounding battle by a landslide in their four wins. Gasol was by far their most impressive rebounder in the series, leading everyone in both the amount he collected and his skill in doing so in the trenches, picking up the tough ones in traffic (not the long caroms that guards usually end up with). On top of that, his strong interior defense set the tone for the Lakers, who rode their defense to the championship; Bryant spent the series playing centerfield far off of Rajon Rondo, certainly not a stopper or defensive game-changer in any capacity.

Statistically, Gasol's input in his Lakers' title defense was significantly more important than that of Bryant. Obviously Kobe's 29 points per look better than Gasol's 19, but it was simply the result of shooting an insane amount of shots at a low percentage. Although the Lakers shot a pitiful 41% over their seven games with Boston, Bryant actually made things worse by shooting 40% (66-163). Not only that, but in a series full of close fourth-quarter battles, Bryant shot an abysmal 31% (11-36) in the games' final periods. Gasol connected on a team-high 48% from the field, hitting 43 of 90 attempts. His efficiency from the field was instrumental in stressing a tight Boston defense.

From a distribution/running-the-O standpoint, Gasol far trumped Kobe in the Finals. The big Spaniard lead the entire Laker squad with a phenomenal 26-13 (2.0) assist-turnover rate. He did a great job passing out of double teams, passing out of the low-post, high-post, perimeter, etc. The only player to accrue more assists on LA was the primary ball handler, Bryant, who handed out one more, 27. Unfortunately for the team, he also turned the ball over 27 times for a terrible 1.0 ratio. It could have been much worse if his teammates didn't hustle to retain possession on numerous Bryant passes that were tipped away by the Celtics into random spaces each game. Offensively, there is no question that Gasol was far more important to the overall success and effectiveness of the Lakers' attack.

Considering the winner of all seven games was also the team that lead each contest in rebounds, this part of their games cannot be overlooked. Gasol was the top rebounder by quite a substantial margin for the series, snagging 11.6 boards per, including an incredible 5.0 offensive each night. With the rest of the Lakers shooting such a low percentage from the field, Gasol's offensive rebounds and the subsequent second-chance points alone were regularly the difference between winning and losing. He surpassed his rebound average in four of the seven games, so there were no single-game totals that pushed his average so high.

Bryant chipped in with an impressive 8.0 rebounds per, including 1.7 offensive, but it should be pointed out he met or exceeded that average only twice. A few outliers skewed his average above a true indication of what he contributed in this category. Not only that, most of Gasol's boards were grabbed in the middle of hard-fought scrums in the paint, whereas Bryant's were usually of the long-bounce-right-to-him variety.

Defensively, Gasol's man-to-man defense is alright, but his ability to energetically block and redirect shots was unparalleled, blocking 18 for the series (2.6 per) and persuading multiple potential shots to not be taken. A big man's defensive presence is always more valuable than a wing's because they have to help clean up the mess opposing guards make when they drive into the paint. That being said, Bryant's defense wasn't responsible for much in the series. He guarded Rajon Rondo, who can't shoot, by hanging out in the lane; Bryant rarely had to hustle or be responsible for containing any tough plays. Rondo still ended up averaging 14 points and 8 assists for the series. Bryant did get credit for 15 steals over the seven games, 8 of which came in two home contests when any deflections caused by his teammates' hustle were given to him if LA's stats keepers determined he gained possession in the end. NBA stats keepers, who work for individual clubs, are allowed a lot of leeway in determining who to give credit for steals, which is why it's one of the most home-oriented statistics for star players.

Pau Gasol was clearly the most impressive player in the 2010 Finals and deserved to win the Bill Russell MVP Award. This is not a slight to Bryant, it's just that Gasol is that good. He is the only other player in the best-big-in-the-league discussion with Dwight Howard. Duncan's slowing speed has taken away a lot of his defense, and Chris Bosh is neither a defender, passer, winner, or much more than a pedestrian shooter inside. On the other hand, the best perimeter player in the league is an argument involving Chris Paul, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Kevin Durant, maybe Jason Kidd, and Bryant.

Gasol is doing some special things right now that have brought the Lakers out of their three-year .500-ball funk and into a great stretch of Finals runs that includes two titles. It's time he got his due.

Truth hurts :cry

Killakobe81
11-25-2013, 10:14 AM
Here's a neat little article from back when it happened:

http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/6/19/pau-gasol-the-real-finals-mvp.html

Congratulations to Los Angeles on winning consecutive titles, but we need to clear up a little matter called the Finals MVP Award. As much as Kobe Bryant seems like an obvious selection because he's the team's most lauded player and he averaged 28.6 points per, he clearly was not the Lakers' best player in the 2010 Finals. That player was Pau Gasol.
The most straight-forward way of looking at this debate is that the series was decided by defense and rebounding. It was a low-scoring, poorly shot affair all around, and the Lakers won the rebounding battle by a landslide in their four wins. Gasol was by far their most impressive rebounder in the series, leading everyone in both the amount he collected and his skill in doing so in the trenches, picking up the tough ones in traffic (not the long caroms that guards usually end up with). On top of that, his strong interior defense set the tone for the Lakers, who rode their defense to the championship; Bryant spent the series playing centerfield far off of Rajon Rondo, certainly not a stopper or defensive game-changer in any capacity.

Statistically, Gasol's input in his Lakers' title defense was significantly more important than that of Bryant. Obviously Kobe's 29 points per look better than Gasol's 19, but it was simply the result of shooting an insane amount of shots at a low percentage. Although the Lakers shot a pitiful 41% over their seven games with Boston, Bryant actually made things worse by shooting 40% (66-163). Not only that, but in a series full of close fourth-quarter battles, Bryant shot an abysmal 31% (11-36) in the games' final periods. Gasol connected on a team-high 48% from the field, hitting 43 of 90 attempts. His efficiency from the field was instrumental in stressing a tight Boston defense.

From a distribution/running-the-O standpoint, Gasol far trumped Kobe in the Finals. The big Spaniard lead the entire Laker squad with a phenomenal 26-13 (2.0) assist-turnover rate. He did a great job passing out of double teams, passing out of the low-post, high-post, perimeter, etc. The only player to accrue more assists on LA was the primary ball handler, Bryant, who handed out one more, 27. Unfortunately for the team, he also turned the ball over 27 times for a terrible 1.0 ratio. It could have been much worse if his teammates didn't hustle to retain possession on numerous Bryant passes that were tipped away by the Celtics into random spaces each game. Offensively, there is no question that Gasol was far more important to the overall success and effectiveness of the Lakers' attack.

Considering the winner of all seven games was also the team that lead each contest in rebounds, this part of their games cannot be overlooked. Gasol was the top rebounder by quite a substantial margin for the series, snagging 11.6 boards per, including an incredible 5.0 offensive each night. With the rest of the Lakers shooting such a low percentage from the field, Gasol's offensive rebounds and the subsequent second-chance points alone were regularly the difference between winning and losing. He surpassed his rebound average in four of the seven games, so there were no single-game totals that pushed his average so high.

Bryant chipped in with an impressive 8.0 rebounds per, including 1.7 offensive, but it should be pointed out he met or exceeded that average only twice. A few outliers skewed his average above a true indication of what he contributed in this category. Not only that, most of Gasol's boards were grabbed in the middle of hard-fought scrums in the paint, whereas Bryant's were usually of the long-bounce-right-to-him variety.

Defensively, Gasol's man-to-man defense is alright, but his ability to energetically block and redirect shots was unparalleled, blocking 18 for the series (2.6 per) and persuading multiple potential shots to not be taken. A big man's defensive presence is always more valuable than a wing's because they have to help clean up the mess opposing guards make when they drive into the paint. That being said, Bryant's defense wasn't responsible for much in the series. He guarded Rajon Rondo, who can't shoot, by hanging out in the lane; Bryant rarely had to hustle or be responsible for containing any tough plays. Rondo still ended up averaging 14 points and 8 assists for the series. Bryant did get credit for 15 steals over the seven games, 8 of which came in two home contests when any deflections caused by his teammates' hustle were given to him if LA's stats keepers determined he gained possession in the end. NBA stats keepers, who work for individual clubs, are allowed a lot of leeway in determining who to give credit for steals, which is why it's one of the most home-oriented statistics for star players.

Pau Gasol was clearly the most impressive player in the 2010 Finals and deserved to win the Bill Russell MVP Award. This is not a slight to Bryant, it's just that Gasol is that good. He is the only other player in the best-big-in-the-league discussion with Dwight Howard. Duncan's slowing speed has taken away a lot of his defense, and Chris Bosh is neither a defender, passer, winner, or much more than a pedestrian shooter inside. On the other hand, the best perimeter player in the league is an argument involving Chris Paul, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Kevin Durant, maybe Jason Kidd, and Bryant.

Gasol is doing some special things right now that have brought the Lakers out of their three-year .500-ball funk and into a great stretch of Finals runs that includes two titles. It's time he got his due.

Great article I will recommend ...

Looking at straight stats is silly. Just like many on here argue that it was the defensive attention on shaq that allowed Kobe to push the Spurs ish in in the early 2000's ...the same argument can be made here. The Celts never doubled Pau. Now they did NOT double Kobe either ... but if you watched the series Stopping Kobe was their main focus and they shaded their defensive help to prevent Kobe from attacking the paint. Pierce and company did yeoman's work on Kobe ... yet Kobe still had a significant impact on that series.

I dont even have a major issue with the argument for Pau as the MVP in 2010 ...in 2009 though it's a fool's argument. In fact in many ways Bynum injuring Perkins was pretty significant as well, considering how close Game 7 was ...

Kobe played a similar role to Duncan (drawing most of the defensive attention) when Parker won Finals MVP ...however Kobe was the leading scorer in the 2010 finals and I would argue that points not rebounds were the most precious commodity. As bad as the Lakers and Celtics shot ...there were plenty of rebounds to be had, highlighted by Kobe grabbing so many in Game 7. Points however were so hard to get., making baskets by fisher, Rondo the non big scorers EXTREMELY valuable.

I think it's great that the author wanted to give an underrated Pau his just due. And I would kill to have THAT Pau playing for the Lakers ...

But now who cares? Kobe won that award over 3 years ago. Pau got a nice extension for his play during the Finals run ... and has failed to live up to it ... but i am STILL grateful for helping us get to 16.

His recent play has been encouraging. I just hate to feel as though I need to disparage Pau to rebuttal some silly arguments on here.

Pau has been a great Laker. And I have been a voice here and on LG, despite his recent playoff struggles arguing AGAINST trading him for Kevin Love or ZBO (though I obviously would now reconsider that stance on Klove). He seems like a great guy, a good team-mate and Kobe has constantly defended him publicly and privately (according to sources). I dont want him at $16 or $18 million but if he is willing to give us a discount ...I would welcome him back to our team.

Kobe should also take a substantial pay-cut too btw ...

Killakobe81
11-25-2013, 10:17 AM
The prime Pau playing in Memphis never won a single game in the playoffs either

Truth hurts ... part two ...

Michael Jordan.
11-25-2013, 10:19 AM
The prime Pau playing in Memphis never won a single game in the playoffs either
The Grizzlies never made the playoffs before Pau either.

DMC
11-25-2013, 10:35 AM
Great article I will recommend ...

Looking at straight stats is silly. Just like many on here argue that it was the defensive attention on shaq that allowed Kobe to push the Spurs ish in in the early 2000's ...the same argument can be made here. The Celts never doubled Pau. Now they did NOT double Kobe either ... but if you watched the series Stopping Kobe was their main focus and they shaded their defensive help to prevent Kobe from attacking the paint. Pierce and company did yeoman's work on Kobe ... yet Kobe still had a significant impact on that series.

I dont even have a major issue with the argument for Pau as the MVP in 2010 ...in 2009 though it's a fool's argument. In fact in many ways Bynum injuring Perkins was pretty significant as well, considering how close Game 7 was ...

Kobe played a similar role to Duncan (drawing most of the defensive attention) when Parker won Finals MVP ...however Kobe was the leading scorer in the 2010 finals and I would argue that points not rebounds were the most precious commodity. As bad as the Lakers and Celtics shot ...there were plenty of rebounds to be had, highlighted by Kobe grabbing so many in Game 7. Points however were so hard to get., making baskets by fisher, Rondo the non big scorers EXTREMELY valuable.

I think it's great that the author wanted to give an underrated Pau his just due. And I would kill to have THAT Pau playing for the Lakers ...

But now who cares? Kobe won that award over 3 years ago. Pau got a nice extension for his play during the Finals run ... and has failed to live up to it ... but i am STILL grateful for helping us get to 16.

His recent play has been encouraging. I just hate to feel as though I need to disparage Pau to rebuttal some silly arguments on here.

Pau has been a great Laker. And I have been a voice here and on LG, despite his recent playoff struggles arguing AGAINST trading him for Kevin Love or ZBO (though I obviously would now reconsider that stance on Klove). He seems like a great guy, a good team-mate and Kobe has constantly defended him publicly and privately (according to sources). I dont want him at $16 or $18 million but if he is willing to give us a discount ...I would welcome him back to our team.

Kobe should also take a substantial pay-cut too btw ...


So it's a great article but you disagree with it's premise. Instead, you think volume shooting should be rewarded.

RsxPiimp
11-25-2013, 10:46 AM
Pau never missed the playoffs in his prime...

Makes me wonder

:lol He sure was leading that team to a lottery in 07-08

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801280MEM.html

Memphis was 13-32 before Gasol begged for a trade :lol

Killakobe81
11-25-2013, 10:51 AM
So it's a great article but you disagree with it's premise. Instead, you think volume shooting should be rewarded.

Sarcasm detector ... broken?

I can't see how anyone could not be encouraged by Pau's play lately AND be rooting for him to get close to his 2010 form. If some LAker fans want him gone ...then by playing well, he ups his trade value. Right now, he is helping us win games and making the games more enjoyable to watch with his slick passing and smooth post play.

I am not completely against tanking, but if Pau plays like this, and our bench continues to thrive, IF Kobe comes back close to form this team can be dangerous. Not a title team by any stretch ... but a team that could pull off a upset.

Just not sure we would not be better off getting a top 10 pick, adding him to a healthy Pau/Kobe (ata reduced price) and signing an additional core piece. No, I dont think Lebron or even Melo are coming to LA ... but if Pau can maintain and Kobe is close to normal when he gets back we are not THAT far away from being a legit contender ...NEXT year ...if we add a top rookie and a legit #2 option.

Let's be honest, Pau at this stage should be a #3 option, similar to Bosh on a legit contender. Miami is NOT going anywhere and for the Lakers to compete for titles Pau has to be a third option not a #1 or #2 ... Kobe would also be better off as a #2 option ...but doubt Lakers could acquire a #1 (Lebron/Durant/Paul George) that is better.

pgardn
11-25-2013, 11:21 AM
In game 7 of the Finals, definitely.

No Perkins and Pau did not get shoved around.

This has always been his problem. Hugely skilled but easy to beat on.

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 12:56 PM
Lol no shady articles are going to change the facts

29/8/4/2/1 on 41/32/88/53TS/45eFG won the FMVP and was the first option that the defense focused on is better than
19/12/4/1/3 on 48/0/72/56TS/48eFG as second option

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 01:01 PM
:lol He sure was leading that team to a lottery in 07-08

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801280MEM.html

Memphis was 13-32 before Gasol begged for a trade :lol
http://cdn.niketalk.com/4/47/476868a7_antonio-banderas-gif-52bbd904-original.gif

http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq339/Phatal101/iSpxXFnwJh21z_zpsbd4e8b87.gif

DMC
11-25-2013, 04:42 PM
Lol no shady articles are going to change the facts

29/8/4/2/1 on 41/32/88/53TS/45eFG won the FMVP and was the first option that the defense focused on is better than
19/12/4/1/3 on 48/0/72/56TS/48eFG as second option

So then the FMVP indicates who was the better player.

Thanks for kicking your own ass.

DMC
11-25-2013, 04:44 PM
Sarcasm detector ... broken?

I can't see how anyone could not be encouraged by Pau's play lately AND be rooting for him to get close to his 2010 form. If some LAker fans want him gone ...then by playing well, he ups his trade value. Right now, he is helping us win games and making the games more enjoyable to watch with his slick passing and smooth post play.

I am not completely against tanking, but if Pau plays like this, and our bench continues to thrive, IF Kobe comes back close to form this team can be dangerous. Not a title team by any stretch ... but a team that could pull off a upset.

Just not sure we would not be better off getting a top 10 pick, adding him to a healthy Pau/Kobe (ata reduced price) and signing an additional core piece. No, I dont think Lebron or even Melo are coming to LA ... but if Pau can maintain and Kobe is close to normal when he gets back we are not THAT far away from being a legit contender ...NEXT year ...if we add a top rookie and a legit #2 option.

Let's be honest, Pau at this stage should be a #3 option, similar to Bosh on a legit contender. Miami is NOT going anywhere and for the Lakers to compete for titles Pau has to be a third option not a #1 or #2 ... Kobe would also be better off as a #2 option ...but doubt Lakers could acquire a #1 (Lebron/Durant/Paul George) that is better.

Btw, your #2 option is making 25m a year after this season (30m now, sitting in the crowd).

DMC
11-25-2013, 04:50 PM
:lol He sure was leading that team to a lottery in 07-08

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801280MEM.html

Memphis was 13-32 before Gasol begged for a trade :lol

The Pau Gasol Trade: Los Angeles Lakers, Before and After

The Lakers were one of the best teams in the league when emerging center Andrew Bynum was healthy, and the team was clicking with Bynum and Lamar Odom as the second and third options.
Then, Bynum's great season was abruptly interrupted when he injured his knee going up for a rebound on January 13 against the Memphis Grizzlies. At the time, the Lakers expected Bynum to be out for eight weeks, and hoped to have him back by the end of March.
However, without Bynum's presence inside, the Lakers struggled mightily, going 4-4. They reverted back to the Lakers teams of the last few years, with Kobe having to score 35 points for the Lakers to win.
Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak knew there was a chance the Lakers, who had been looking like title contenders, could possibly miss the playoffs entirely, due to the West's overall depth. But on February 1 (one day after a heartbreaking loss to Detroit where Tayshaun Prince made a game winning three), Kupchak pulled off one of the biggest robberies in NBA History, acquiring All Star big man Pau Gasol without giving up any of the team's top ten players.
In return, the Grizzlies received Kwame Brown's $9 million expiring contract, a couple of first round picks, and a couple of good young players—Javaris Crittenton and Pau's brother Marc Gasol.
Instantly, you could tell the Lakers were given a boost. On the same day that his team got Gasol, Kobe Bryant destroyed the poor Toronto Raptors, scoring 46 points—including several highlight plays—in a rout.
Gasol would play his first game as a Laker a few days later, when the New Jersey Nets hosted the Lakers. Gasol's impact was immediate, as the Lakers won despite Kobe having one of his worst games in his career. (Bryant scored six points and had seven TOs while shooting 3-13 from the field.
The Lakers still won that game—and then they went on to win 22 of the 27 games they played with Pau. By the end of the season, Los Angeles had the best record in the mighty Western Conference, after surviving the greatest regular-season race of all time.
Bynum's knee never seemed to heal entirely, and now there is realistically no chance of him playing again this season, even if the Lakers made the Finals. Today, the Lakers announced that Bynum will be undergoing arthroscpic knee surgery on Wednesday, and the timetable of his return will be known later that day.
Now, the debate is whether the Lakers were better with a healthy Bynum and no Gasol or Pau with no Andrew. With Gasol, the Lakers are a better passing team because of Gasol's ability to find his teammates in the post and are a little bit better offensively because Odom has been flourishing playing alongside Gasol.
The negatives of the roster with Gasol are that the Lakers are a weak rebounding team, because of Gasol's reliance on finesse playm, and are only average defensively. With Bynum, the Lakers were the best rebounding team in the league as well as one of the best defensive teams, but they weren't as efficient offensively.
My personal opinion is that the Lakers would be a little bit better with Bynum, because he is a defensive force in the middle and is a rebounding machine. One thing all people can agree on is that next season, when Bynum is healthy and Gasol is there, no team in the league will be able to match up with the Lakers.
Los Angeles will have one of the greatest frontcourts of all time, with Bynum at center, Pau at power forward, and Odom at small forward. They also still have a guy named Kobe Bryant at shooting guard, who is pretty good, and a great veteran leader at point guard in Derek Fisher.
Barring any injuries, it's safe to say that Lakers will win four or five championships over the next eight years, and become one of the league's greatest dynasties.



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/24071-the-pau-gasol-trade-los-angeles-lakers-before-and-after



lol det last line...

RsxPiimp
11-25-2013, 04:58 PM
Wow, quoting articles from bleacher report 8 yrs ago, that's pretty disappointing of you:lol

Glad to debunk the notion that implied Gasol could never missed a playoff in Memphis though:hat

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 06:14 PM
Wow, quoting articles from bleacher report 8 yrs ago, that's pretty disappointing of you:lol

Glad to debunk the notion that implied Gasol could never missed a playoff in Memphis though:hat
Pau pulled a Wilt. Wilt in '65 led his team to a 10-28 record and then was traded.

HI-FI
11-25-2013, 06:49 PM
Great article I will recommend ...

Looking at straight stats is silly. Just like many on here argue that it was the defensive attention on shaq that allowed Kobe to push the Spurs ish in in the early 2000's ...the same argument can be made here. The Celts never doubled Pau. Now they did NOT double Kobe either ... but if you watched the series Stopping Kobe was their main focus and they shaded their defensive help to prevent Kobe from attacking the paint. Pierce and company did yeoman's work on Kobe ... yet Kobe still had a significant impact on that series.

I dont even have a major issue with the argument for Pau as the MVP in 2010 ...in 2009 though it's a fool's argument. In fact in many ways Bynum injuring Perkins was pretty significant as well, considering how close Game 7 was ...

Kobe played a similar role to Duncan (drawing most of the defensive attention) when Parker won Finals MVP ...however Kobe was the leading scorer in the 2010 finals and I would argue that points not rebounds were the most precious commodity. As bad as the Lakers and Celtics shot ...there were plenty of rebounds to be had, highlighted by Kobe grabbing so many in Game 7. Points however were so hard to get., making baskets by fisher, Rondo the non big scorers EXTREMELY valuable.

I think it's great that the author wanted to give an underrated Pau his just due. And I would kill to have THAT Pau playing for the Lakers ...

But now who cares? Kobe won that award over 3 years ago. Pau got a nice extension for his play during the Finals run ... and has failed to live up to it ... but i am STILL grateful for helping us get to 16.

His recent play has been encouraging. I just hate to feel as though I need to disparage Pau to rebuttal some silly arguments on here.

Pau has been a great Laker. And I have been a voice here and on LG, despite his recent playoff struggles arguing AGAINST trading him for Kevin Love or ZBO (though I obviously would now reconsider that stance on Klove). He seems like a great guy, a good team-mate and Kobe has constantly defended him publicly and privately (according to sources). I dont want him at $16 or $18 million but if he is willing to give us a discount ...I would welcome him back to our team.

Kobe should also take a substantial pay-cut too btw ...

it is a pretty good article. good to see MVPau get his proper due. props to DMC for posting it.

Cry Havoc
11-25-2013, 06:50 PM
He's been getting the ball plenty every game

His FGA per game was higher than his PPG for a while, It wasn't until these past 2 games that got his PPG higher than his FGA/gm.

So you're saying that now that he's become accustomed to getting more than 5-10 touches per game, he's reasserted himself as a highly effective post player despite the fact that the Lakers have no other weapons? That's more of a ringing endorsement of how good Pau is than a knock on his ability to produce, tbh.

By the way, Pau actually plays defense. Easy to forget when you're point counting, but it's a fact.

DMC
11-25-2013, 07:00 PM
Wow, quoting articles from bleacher report 8 yrs ago, that's pretty disappointing of you:lol

Glad to debunk the notion that implied Gasol could never missed a playoff in Memphis though:hat

The article was just after the trade. I realize you can be blindfolded with dental floss, but try to see the context.

RsxPiimp
11-25-2013, 07:20 PM
The article was just after the trade. I realize you can be blindfolded with dental floss, but try to see the context.

So what does that have to do with what I proved? That Gasol led Grizzlies would never miss a playoffs? You can't be that stupid for the sake of trolling.

DMC
11-25-2013, 07:33 PM
So what does that have to do with what I proved? That Gasol led Grizzlies would never miss a playoffs? You can't be that stupid for the sake of trolling.

The Lakers went from missing the playoffs/Kobe threatening to quit to making the Finals in one year, all because of Pau Gasol.

RsxPiimp
11-25-2013, 07:36 PM
The Lakers went from missing the playoffs/Kobe threatening to quit to making the Finals in one year, all because of Pau Gasol.

Whatever dude, how's your day going so far DMC? :toast

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 08:16 PM
The Lakers went from missing the playoffs/Kobe threatening to quit to making the Finals in one year, all because of Pau Gasol.
Lakers were 30-16 before the Pau trade. Grizzles were 13-32 when they traded Pau.

ElNono
11-25-2013, 08:20 PM
What years do you think he was robbed of the MVP?

Where did I said he was robbed of the MVP? Quote? Stop making stuff up, tbh :lol

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 08:22 PM
Where did I said he was robbed of the MVP? Quote? Stop making stuff up, tbh :lol
Yet you call him MVPau

ElNono
11-25-2013, 08:23 PM
:lol He sure was leading that team to a lottery in 07-08

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801280MEM.html

Memphis was 13-32 before Gasol begged for a trade :lol

After he was traded the Lakeshow suddenly went into a 10 game winning streak :lol

Who are you kidding? Memphis was tanking, but Gasol was the shit...

ElNono
11-25-2013, 08:23 PM
Yet you call him MVPau

I think he's the Laker's most valuable player... that's all.

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 08:24 PM
I think he's the Laker's most valuable player... that's all.
I'd say Jordan Hill is right now tbh

ShowtimeFan
11-25-2013, 08:26 PM
By the way, Pau actually plays defense. Easy to forget when you're point counting, but it's a fact.

Unfortunately not true this year, but hey, we say anything we like around here as fact.

DMC
11-25-2013, 08:28 PM
Lakers were 30-16 before the Pau trade. Grizzles were 13-32 when they traded Pau.

They only lost 4 of their next 27 games. Bynum went down, Lakers went to 50/50 ball. Pau bailed them out of that.

Deuce Bigalow
11-25-2013, 08:31 PM
They only lost 4 of their next 27 games. Bynum went down, Lakers went to 50/50 ball. Pau bailed them out of that.
Of course they got better. Pau is a good player. A good second option All-Star caliber big man.

Bynumite
11-26-2013, 11:23 PM
And of course Nene had himself a career game while being guarded by MVPussy :lol I'm shocked tbh.

ElNono
11-27-2013, 12:07 AM
Whotts funny is Lakerfan propping Jordan Hill like hell when the Lakeshow do well, but when another center does well, it's all on Pau :lol

MVPau had another great game, dropping 17 on 55% shooting... unfortunately him and ear jordan couldn't overcome that scrub William going 1-7...

ElNono
11-27-2013, 12:12 AM
Also, props for MVPau for not mailing it in, tbh... after the news that he's basically thrown under the buss, he still showed up and played...

Bynumite
11-27-2013, 12:28 AM
Also, props for MVPau for not mailing it in, tbh... after the news that he's basically thrown under the buss, he still showed up and played...

Been mailing it in since 2011 son. He's 33, had no major injuries, the Lakers gave him plenty of shots imo. He's a grown ass nigga, "I got cucked" is no excuse to play like shit, Jim had himself a playoff under the same circumstances.

HI-FI
11-27-2013, 12:33 AM
Been mailing it in since 2011 son. He's 33, had no major injuries, the Lakers gave him plenty of shots imo. He's a grown ass nigga, "I got cucked" is no excuse to play like shit, Jim had himself a playoff under the same circumstances.
I thought the story was he cheated on his wife, Kobe ratted him out (per par)?

Killakobe81
11-27-2013, 09:27 AM
Pau played a good offenseive game. Only 6 boards but I thik he had 8 assists and 16 or 17 points (off the top of my dome ... I don't box score hunt)

But the fact Nene and Gortat got whatever they wanted cancelled that out. I want Pau back but has to be at a significant discount ...not the kobe Bryant type discount.
He has served us well I will always root for his success. Great player, not a MVP ... borderline HOF'er ...but a great person it seems.

AchillesHeel
11-27-2013, 09:34 AM
Pau played a good offenseive game. Only 6 boards but I thik he had 8 assists and 16 or 17 points (off the top of my dome ... I don't box score hunt)

But the fact Nene and Gortat got whatever they wanted cancelled that out. I want Pau back but has to be at a significant discount ...not the kobe Bryant type discount.
He has served us well I will always root for his success. Great player, not a MVP ... borderline HOF'er ...but a great person it seems.

Pau also had a ton of turnovers, and missed a wide open layup at the end to bring his team within 3.

His offense has improved, he's scoring more consistently and he's getting guys the ball at the right places, but his defense, or lack thereof, negates everything.

Killakobe81
11-27-2013, 09:36 AM
Pau also had a ton of turnovers, and missed a wide open layup at the end to bring his team within 3.

His offense has improved, he's scoring more consistently and he's getting guys the ball at the right places, but his defense, or lack thereof, negates everything.

yep. i mentioned the TO's as the game was playing. Needs to be a third option or 4th if he went to Miami they may 4peat tbh ... especially if they Kept Bosh ...

Killakobe81
11-27-2013, 09:36 AM
Lebron masks many weaknesses ...

ElNono
11-29-2013, 11:58 PM
Another double-double for Capt Pau who now has the Lakeshow over .500 :wow

Didn't shot the ball well after getting triple-teamed on every possession, but he delivered per the usual...

Haters can't argue with results, tbh...

Bynumite
11-30-2013, 12:07 AM
Gasol 13 points on 5-14 shooting, Shawne Williams 20 points, Wes Johnson 27 points. Try harder son.

As usual the 3 ball kept them in the game while Gasol's stellar defense helped allow around 70 Detroit points in the paint.

Brunodf
11-30-2013, 12:08 AM
:wowDamn, that Gasol guy is really good, leading a 40 million roster over .500

Can u imagine what could he do if the Lakers GM signed some decent supporting cast? :wow

ElNono
11-30-2013, 12:13 AM
Gasol 13 points on 5-14 shooting, Shawne Williams 20 points, Wes Johnson 27 points. Try harder son.

As usual the 3 ball kept them in the game while Gasol's stellar defense helped allow around 70 Detroit points in the paint.

lmao, who had the 12 rebounds, especially with Jordan Hill going down... you don't deserve MVPau, tbh

Bynumite
11-30-2013, 12:24 AM
lmao, who had the 12 rebounds, especially with Jordan Hill going down... you don't deserve MVPau, tbh

The Lakers deserve MVPau, unfortunately they're stuck with MVPussy since 2011.

ElNono
11-30-2013, 12:29 AM
The Lakers deserve MVPau, unfortunately they're stuck with MVPussy since 2011.

Nigga is earning his paycheck, got his team on a winning situation... he could've just as easily quit and :cry buy thanksgiving dinner for teammates :cry...

ambchang
11-30-2013, 12:32 AM
MVPau can't get credit even when cancer is hurt.

Shame.

mystargtr34
11-30-2013, 12:39 AM
Lakers playing good team ball.. good ball movement and inside outside basketball with MVPau... :lol unfortunately it will all turn to shit ball once 48/2 returns.

HarlemHeat37
11-30-2013, 12:53 AM
He looked horrible to start the year and he was barely giving an effort, but looks like he's been playing hard and turning it around lately, tbh..I wonder what has motivated him, tbh..

Being the #1 option on a +.500 team with arguably the worst roster in the West, maybe the NBA, is very impressive, tbh..especially for a guy that should be a #3 guy at this point in his career, too..

HI-FI
11-30-2013, 01:01 AM
He looked horrible to start the year and he was barely giving an effort, but looks like he's been playing hard and turning it around lately, tbh..I wonder what has motivated him, tbh..

Being the #1 option on a +.500 team with arguably the worst roster in the West, maybe the NBA, is very impressive, tbh..especially for a guy that should be a #3 guy at this point in his career, too..
agree, and :lol at your new avatar. I remember that one thread about Bryant's daughters.

Killakobe81
11-30-2013, 01:13 AM
He looked horrible to start the year and he was barely giving an effort, but looks like he's been playing hard and turning it around lately, tbh..I wonder what has motivated him, tbh..

Being the #1 option on a +.500 team with arguably the worst roster in the West, maybe the NBA, is very impressive, tbh..especially for a guy that should be a #3 guy at this point in his career, too..

How is Lakers roster Shittier than Utah, Celts or Bucks?!
And if so mike d is a fucken genius coach ...

DMC
11-30-2013, 01:28 AM
Last season with the "NBA FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED" roster on this date (or this point in the season) the Lakers were 8-9. They are now 9-8 without Kobe, Nash, Howard or Artest.

HarlemHeat37
11-30-2013, 02:27 AM
First of all, D'Antoni is a solid coach that has been scapegoated by big-market teams that failed to meet expectations for circumstances that weren't under his control(Knicks and Lakers)..when you give him a roster of shitty players, he can at least make them look decent and take them to the playoffs..

Steve Blake- good backup PG, but Lakers have him as their leading player in minutes:lol
Jodie Meeks- good 8th-9th man, but Lakers are starting him
Wes Johnson- scrub that was horrible in Minnesota..at best, he's an 8th or 9th man, tbh..he's LA's starting SF
Jordan Hill- good 3rd big, but in LA he's a starter
Pau- good 3rd option, #1 option in LA

Swaggy P- decent 6th man, playing correct role
Jordan Farmar- pretty good backup PG, playing correct role..Laker fans all hated him in his previous stint:lol
Xavier Henry- an 11th or 12th man that couldn't play in Memphis
Shawne Williams- shouldn't be on an NBA 12-man roster

Killakobe81
11-30-2013, 03:54 PM
Just saying if roster is DAT shitty mike d is a genius. He is not ...roster is mediocre. I say probably a 7-9 or 6-10 but they have over achieved by 2 or 3 games ...

Bynumite
12-02-2013, 12:02 AM
Gasol 13 points on 5-14 shooting, Shawne Williams 20 points, Wes Johnson 27 points.

Once again a group of NBA rejects tried to carry MVPussy to another win but his 3-15 shooting night was just too much to overcome.

Good thing Kobe comes back this friday to steal MVPussy's touches, because this soft piece of shit with a 40% shooting average clearly doesn't deserve 14 attempts per game.

lefty
12-02-2013, 12:05 AM
Genius thread :lmao


Forcing Lakers fans to slam their own players :lmao



http://cdn.motinetwork.net/demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1001/another-epic-pwnage-epic-pwnage-ownage-demotivational-poster-1262629578.jpg

Bynumite
12-02-2013, 12:06 AM
Genius thread :lmao


Forcing Lakers fans to slam their own players :lmao

lefty with the retarded bads per par. Like spurfan doesn't shit on Manu and Parker 24/7 :lol

AchillesHeel
12-02-2013, 12:10 AM
Pau's coasting until the playoffs, tbh.

lefty
12-02-2013, 12:10 AM
lefty with the retarded bads per par. Like spurfan doesn't shit on Manu and Parker 24/7 :lol
We do it but you had nothing to with it

Spur fan started this thread and got Laker fan right where he wanted him to be.
That was easy :lol

TDMVPDPOY
12-02-2013, 12:10 AM
this roster is even crap then what pau had to deal with in memphis

ElNono
12-02-2013, 12:12 AM
MVPau sucked tonight, tbh... can't spin that one... not coincidentally, the Lakeshow lost the game...

lefty
12-02-2013, 12:12 AM
MVPau sucked tonight, tbh... can't spin that one... not coincidentally, the Lakeshow lost the game...
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130309174652/glee/images/f/fc/Sorry_but_it's_true.gif

Splits
12-02-2013, 12:13 AM
Good thing Kobe comes back this friday.

So when the .500 Lakers get Kirbs back and drop under .500, that will also be MVPau's fault? Just trying to keep all your crazy logic straight.

lefty
12-02-2013, 12:14 AM
:cry Nene stop pls
:cry I'll tell Keri and Tem
:cry Keri, Tem, where are you
:cry anyone ?
:cry pls

Bynumite
12-02-2013, 12:38 AM
MVPau sucked tonight, tbh... can't spin that one... not coincidentally, the Lakeshow lost the game...

MVPussy shot 5-14 vs Detroit, 1-10 vs Houston, 5-18 vs Atlanta. All Laker W's.

The soft pussy is being carried by a bunch of NBA rejects.

Now go to bed, you've posted enough bullshit for today.

Splits
12-02-2013, 12:40 AM
Pau = Cornerstone.

Even when he has an off night he wills his team

Bynumite
12-02-2013, 12:45 AM
Gasol's game and numbers are Duncanesque right now. 20 point comeback with MVPussy on the bench, what a joke :lol

RsxPiimp
12-02-2013, 12:50 AM
Lost in all this is how Jordan Hill is playing like the Lakers best player, despite of limited minutes.

He leads the team in

PER (19.7)
FG %
Win Shares
Rebounds Per 36 minutes

Not to mention he's the hustle and motor of that Laker team.

ElNono
12-02-2013, 12:58 AM
MVPussy shot 5-14 vs Detroit, 1-10 vs Houston, 5-18 vs Atlanta. All Laker W's.

The soft pussy is being carried by a bunch of NBA rejects.

Now go to bed, you've posted enough bullshit for today.

:lmao Pau got a double-double both on the Detroit and Atlanta games, and double digit boards in the Houston game...

Lakerfan picking and choosing to throw MVPau under the bus...

lefty
12-02-2013, 01:01 AM
:lmao Pau got a double-double both on the Detroit and Atlanta games, and double digit boards in the Houston game...

Lakerfan picking and choosing to throw MVPau under the bus...
Truth bombs !!!!!!

Deuce Bigalow
12-02-2013, 01:05 AM
The Most Valuable Pau Award is what the MVP should be named after this performance

ElNono
12-02-2013, 01:05 AM
MVPau sucked tonight, tbh... can't spin that one... not coincidentally, the Lakeshow lost the game...

Bynumite
12-02-2013, 01:22 AM
:lmao Pau got a double-double both on the Detroit and Atlanta games, and double digit boards in the Houston game...

Lakerfan picking and choosing to throw MVPau under the bus...

If a 7 foot faggot couldn't catch a fucking defensive rebound and lead this Laker team in REB per game when he's averaging the most minutes among Laker big men, might as well join the fucking WNBA.

MVPussy's shitty offense is well documented (14 PPG on 14 attempts, 43% shooting) and his defense is even worse with opposing big men (Anthony Davis, Nene) getting career nights in points under his watch.

ElNono
12-02-2013, 01:28 AM
If a 7 foot faggot couldn't catch a fucking defensive rebound and lead this Laker team in REB per game when he's averaging the most minutes among Laker big men, might as well join the fucking WNBA.

MVPussy's shitty offense is well documented (14 PPG on 14 attempts, 43% shooting) and his defense is even worse with opposing big men (Anthony Davis, Nene) getting career nights in points under his watch.

:lol He's leading the team in double-doubles, dude is putting in work at both ends. FACT.

This is typical Lakerfan analysis, tbh... "Ohhh, Kobe shot his usual 42%, not the reason we lost" while overlooking he gave up 35pts to whoever he was guarding... :lol

LkrFan
12-02-2013, 01:33 AM
Nene set a career high on MVPaussy. Then LMA dropped him off real proper-like. MVPaussy has a pink fork in his back. He's donePERI:lolD.

Bynumite
12-02-2013, 01:34 AM
Truth bombs !!!!!!

And i can't stress enough how fucking retarded lefty is. When he's not posting phaggy memes, gifs or emoticons, this faggot is a glorified cheerleader that follows anti-laker spurfans from thread to thread and deep throats them after every post they make.

After 58K of nothing but steaming pile of shit posts, suicide should be a viable option in your case and no one should judge you if you choose such ending.

ElNono
12-02-2013, 01:37 AM
Nene set a career high on MVPaussy. Then LMA dropped him off real proper-like. MVPaussy has a pink fork in his back. He's donePERI:lolD.

:lol keep picking and choosing... fact is this team is nowhere near .500 without MVPau... numbers back it up

ElNono
12-02-2013, 01:39 AM
Damn, RMAO fan on RMAO fan violence... :lol

whitemamba
12-02-2013, 10:58 AM
3-15

MVP

MVP

MVP

Bynumite
12-02-2013, 11:32 AM
:lol He's leading the team in double-doubles, dude is putting in work at both ends. FACT.

This is typical Lakerfan analysis, tbh... "Ohhh, Kobe shot his usual 42%, not the reason we lost" while overlooking he gave up 35pts to whoever he was guarding... :lol

Kobe's offense is still elite which makes up for his defensive shortcomings. Gasol putting up 14 PPG on 14 FGA and shooting 42% from the field while opposing big men have career games is not "putting in work at both ends" son.


MVPau sucked tonight, tbh... can't spin that one... not coincidentally, the Lakeshow lost the game...

Are you saying that when the best player on the team in Kobe's absence doesn't show up and shoots bricks all night long, the Lakers chances of getting the win drop significantly?

Wow... shocking revelation, you sir are a visionary. You should be sitting next to Simmons and Magic imho.

The fact that this Lakers team still managed to get multiple wins this season with Gasol shooting so poorly and playing little to no defense must be mind blowing for you.

Another interesting stat, when Kobe doesn't play, not coincidentally, Gasol never won a single playoff game.

ambchang
12-02-2013, 01:18 PM
Even Kobe knows it was MVPau who got them the championships:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-saturday-bryant-dishes-on-legacy-teammates/


Championships are won on the inside ... That’s really been the biggest strength with our Lakers team. We have a lot of guys who can play in the post, and that’s how you win championships. I can post, Lamar [Odom] can post, Ron [Artest] can post, Pau [Gasol] can post and Andrew [Bynum] can post. Teams are usually lucky if they have one guy that can control the block.
Read more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-saturday-bryant-dishes-on-legacy-teammates#bG2LDBjcFMlUVmEz.99


That's why Kobe was so hopping mad when MVPau wasn't turning in MVPau performances, because Kobe knows he can no longer coattail to a championship like he did all 5 times.

Also worth noticing that he went in ascending order of ability to post. Kobe (least), Odom (big with perimeter skills), MWP (perimeter player who can't play the perimeter no more and has to bang in the post, MVPau, Bynum (too many injuries though).

ambchang
12-02-2013, 01:24 PM
More gold from the article:


So, we lose the game, I go the locker room, I’m steaming. Steaming. I’m furious. Then, finally I get a call, they said, ‘You know what, we got something that’s happening with Pau.’ I was like, ‘Alright. Cool.’ The first game with Pau, we ran the pick-and-roll and I slipped him the ball. He catches it! I was like, ‘Yes!’ Then, he makes the shot! So, as I’m running back to the timeout, I’m screaming. I’m jumping on Pau’s back. It was like, ‘Oh, I have someone that can play.’ That’s what I had to deal with the whole year.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-saturd...acy-teammates/

You can't make this up. While he threw his ex-teammates under the bus (old habits), he can't help but praise MVPau.

Suspect
12-02-2013, 01:32 PM
And i can't stress enough how fucking retarded lefty is. When he's not posting phaggy memes, gifs or emoticons, this faggot is a glorified cheerleader that follows anti-laker spurfans from thread to thread and deep throats them after every post they make.

After 58K of nothing but steaming pile of shit posts, suicide should be a viable option in your case and no one should judge you if you choose such ending.

Lefty getting ethered

Arnold Toht
12-02-2013, 01:46 PM
And i can't stress enough how fucking retarded lefty is. When he's not posting phaggy memes, gifs or emoticons, this faggot is a glorified cheerleader that follows anti-laker spurfans from thread to thread and deep throats them after every post they make.

After 58K of nothing but steaming pile of shit posts, suicide should be a viable option in your case and no one should judge you if you choose such ending.

Oh, my god.

Killakobe81
12-02-2013, 01:47 PM
Kobe obsessed is what i read out of this thread. Would be awesome if yall really did admire Pau's game as much as you pretend in this thread ...
But i saw the Real feelings when the Pau is now better than Dirk/Tim duncan threads ...

It's only to get at Achilles that yall suck at Pau's tit ...and we(most of us) know it. It used to bug me the MVPau stuff ... but now it just makes me laugh these weak attempts at subtle and not so subtle Kobe bashing. Especially my boy Amb (great troll job btw) at least Harlem, Lefty and Mid freely admit their hate and do not try to hide behind some outrage at how Pau is treated in L.A.

ambchang
12-02-2013, 02:45 PM
Kobe obsessed is what i read out of this thread. Would be awesome if yall really did admire Pau's game as much as you pretend in this thread ...
But i saw the Real feelings when the Pau is now better than Dirk/Tim duncan threads ...

It's only to get at Achilles that yall suck at Pau's tit ...and we(most of us) know it. It used to bug me the MVPau stuff ... but now it just makes me laugh these weak attempts at subtle and not so subtle Kobe bashing. Especially my boy Amb (great troll job btw) at least Harlem, Lefty and Mid freely admit their hate and do not try to hide behind some outrage at how Pau is treated in L.A.

Don't be mad KK81, we are just calling as it is. We don't bash leaders of b2b championships.

And this year, so far, a lot of players are playing better than Duncan, MVPau is actually one of them despite how much he's sucking so far. It says more about how Duncan has been playing than how MVPau has been playing though. Interestingly though, both seems to be turning the corner lately, so we'll see. But if Duncan's worst seasons by far is worst than a below average season from MVPau, we know how good Duncan is.

AchillesHeel
12-02-2013, 03:34 PM
Nono's threads never fail, dumb lakerfans keep taking the bait

:worthy:poster of the year :worthy:

spurraider21
12-02-2013, 03:57 PM
Pau is great but Duncan is top 5 all time

Suspect
12-02-2013, 09:04 PM
Lefty avoiding this thread now tbh

ElNono
12-02-2013, 09:48 PM
Kobe's offense is still elite which makes up for his defensive shortcomings. Gasol putting up 14 PPG on 14 FGA and shooting 42% from the field while opposing big men have career games is not "putting in work at both ends" son.

:lmao Kobe's defense is the reason the team didn't reach .500 till March. Who are you kidding?


Are you saying that when the best player on the team in Kobe's absence doesn't show up and shoots bricks all night long, the Lakers chances of getting the win drop significantly?

Wow... shocking revelation, you sir are a visionary. You should be sitting next to Simmons and Magic imho.

:lol then why do you keep arguing if it's so obvious??? I wasn't the one advancing that MVPau is getting carried by scrubs...


The fact that this Lakers team still managed to get multiple wins this season with Gasol shooting so poorly and playing little to no defense must be mind blowing for you.

Another interesting stat, when Kobe doesn't play, not coincidentally, Gasol never won a single playoff game.

Except that in those wins MVPau did play solid defense, grabbed double-digit rebounds, and in two out of the three cases, posted a double-double, in many cases the only one on the team to do it.

It's not me shitting on your silly arguments... it's MVPau, tbh...

Killakobe81
12-03-2013, 02:37 PM
Don't be mad KK81, we are just calling as it is. We don't bash leaders of b2b championships.

And this year, so far, a lot of players are playing better than Duncan, MVPau is actually one of them despite how much he's sucking so far. It says more about how Duncan has been playing than how MVPau has been playing though. Interestingly though, both seems to be turning the corner lately, so we'll see. But if Duncan's worst seasons by far is worst than a below average season from MVPau, we know how good Duncan is.

Who is mad ish is funny at this point ... was quite clever of you and El back in the day ...

midnightpulp
12-03-2013, 07:51 PM
I admire Nono and Amb's trolling in this thread, but "MVPau" is done.

Now, I'm not sure if that's an indictment on him or how the league has dramatically changed in the last 3 years. Bigmen don't (and can't) really dominate offensively like they used to with the way the game is called (you can take a big's head off and he probably doesn't go to the line) and the changes in offensive philosophy that values floor spacing above all else, which requires a big to be more of a jumpshooter now.

The game has changed, people. Dramatically.

The traditional low post bigman will all but be extinct in 5 years.

ambchang
12-03-2013, 08:01 PM
The numbers back us up though. WS, w/l records with vs without Kobe vs MVPau , historical numbers all point to MVPau being MVPau.

Andy
12-03-2013, 08:45 PM
The numbers back us up though. WS, w/l records with vs without Kobe vs MVPau , historical numbers all point to MVPau being MVPau.

If Gasol's impact is that great, how do you explain his mediocre playoff record (0-16) without Kobe?

irishock
12-03-2013, 08:48 PM
"MVPau" is done.


Everyone knows that... Lakerfans just keep taking the bait :lol

ElNono
12-03-2013, 09:27 PM
I admire Nono and Amb's trolling in this thread, but "MVPau" is done.

Now, I'm not sure if that's an indictment on him or how the league has dramatically changed in the last 3 years. Bigmen don't (and can't) really dominate offensively like they used to with the way the game is called (you can take a big's head off and he probably doesn't go to the line) and the changes in offensive philosophy that values floor spacing above all else, which requires a big to be more of a jumpshooter now.

The game has changed, people. Dramatically.

The traditional low post bigman will all but be extinct in 5 years.

MVPau clearly misses Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher's leadership... it's pretty obvious, tbh... he always won at least one playoff game with those two being part of the team...

That said, MVPau never missed the playoffs in his prime... a trait all great players have, tbh...

ambchang
12-03-2013, 10:11 PM
If Gasol's impact is that great, how do you explain his mediocre playoff record (0-16) without Kobe?

You mean he should have the same record Mike Miller and Jodie Meeks in place of Kobe?

Deuce Bigalow
12-03-2013, 10:48 PM
MVPau clearly misses Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher's leadership... it's pretty obvious, tbh... he always won at least one playoff game with those two being part of the team...

That said, MVPau never missed the playoffs in his prime... a trait all great players have, tbh...
What record did he lead the Grizzles to before the trade?

ElNono
12-03-2013, 11:07 PM
What record did he lead the Grizzles to before the trade?

49-33

LkrFan
12-03-2013, 11:20 PM
49-33

:downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! I said. :lol

Here's a riddle:
1) 0-12
2) B2B
3) 0-4

:downspin:

lefty
12-03-2013, 11:24 PM
:cry

ElNono
12-03-2013, 11:24 PM
Here's a riddle:
1) 0-12
2) B2B
3) 0-4


Already addressed, tbh...


MVPau clearly misses Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher's leadership...

Here's another riddle...

1) Diesel
2) 121-125
3) MVPau

start :downspin: det one

HI-FI
12-03-2013, 11:38 PM
Already addressed, tbh...



Here's another riddle...

1) Diesel
2) 121-125
3) MVPau

start :downspin: det one

Here's another riddle for LkrFan....
1)Tamales
2)Enchiladas
3)Burritos

LkrFan
12-03-2013, 11:51 PM
Already addressed, tbh...

Here's another riddle...

1) Diesel
2) 121-125
3) MVPau

start :downspin: det one

:rollin :lmao :rollin

LkrFan
12-03-2013, 11:53 PM
Here's another riddle for LkrFan....
1)Tamales
2)Enchiladas
3)Burritos
-10 points son for no mention of tacos or nachos. :lol

HI-FI
12-03-2013, 11:55 PM
-10 points son for no mention of tacos or nachos. :lol

:lol true. I was just mainly thinking of the shit I order from the local Mexican drive thru.

spurraider21
12-04-2013, 12:07 AM
Lakerfans very well know that they didn't consider themselves in a position to compete in the post-shaq-pre-pau era. i would know, i live here. all the same fucks that have shit talked my whole life were really quiet in those few years, resorting to dumb shit like "tim duncan looks like a monkey lolz."

even when phil came back, there was never serious hope of competing, they were just praying to get out of the first round, especially after shaq got his ring. the whole "kobe can't win without shaq but shaq can't win without kobe" sphiel died really quick, after which there were rumors of trading bynum and odom for jermaine o'neal, anything to shake things up. then kobe wanted to be traded, and they were talking about sending him to the bulls in a package including deng. shit was ugly. the gift literally came out of nowhere. there were no rumors leading up to it. no stories that the two sides were talking. it literally just happened, and at that point, laker fans knew they were in business. iirc pau had a pretty good debut (bad shooting numbers, but good game overall) and laker nation aka kobestan we know today was born.

they called it kobe's rebirth and maturation and shit even though they all very well knew it was only possible because of pau's arrival. this is the narrative i lived through in LA

Deuce Bigalow
12-04-2013, 01:47 AM
49-33
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801280MEM.html

Try again

ElNono
12-04-2013, 02:12 AM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200801280MEM.html

Try again

Try again...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MEM/2006.html

That was his last full season in Memphis. He was injured in 06-07, and Memphis shopped him in 07-08 while tanking...

You already played this card in page 5 of this thread, tbh :lol


They only lost 4 of their next 27 games. Bynum went down, Lakers went to 50/50 ball. Pau bailed them out of that.


Of course they got better. Pau is a good player. A good second option All-Star caliber big man.

It didn't work then, not sure why you think it's going to work now :lol

Arcadian
12-04-2013, 02:38 AM
The game has changed, people. Dramatically.

The traditional low post bigman will all but be extinct in 5 years.

...And the few who remain will be even more valuable as a result.

ambchang
12-04-2013, 07:09 AM
Lol. Laker fans trying hard to say missing the playoffs entirely > getting swept in the first round.

ElNono
12-07-2013, 12:36 AM
MVPau and Meeks with the team-high +10, putting the Lakeshow over .500... :wow

Impressive, tbh, considering the Lakeshow started the season with the 4th most difficult schedule (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings/_/sort/sos) in the league....

What coach D'Antoni and MVPau have been able to accomplish so far is pretty amazing... hopefully the ball movement and team game that has been so successful for them continues, tbh...

Bynumite
12-07-2013, 12:42 AM
Lakers scoring run without MVPussy on the floor per par, 10+ point deficit erased in the 4th quarter with Gasol on the bench.

whitemamba
12-07-2013, 12:50 AM
6-15

spurraider21
12-07-2013, 12:53 AM
swaggy P +12 tbh...

but mvpau with the +10 compared to boogie cousins +2

TDMVPDPOY
12-07-2013, 12:55 AM
If Gasol's impact is that great, how do you explain his mediocre playoff record (0-16) without Kobe?

explain kobes record in the playoffs without a legit bigman top5?

ElNono
12-07-2013, 01:36 AM
swaggy P +12 tbh...

but mvpau with the +10 compared to boogie cousins +2

oops, missed Swaggy P... still top 2 tonight, despite Kobestan gymnastics...

Rogue
12-07-2013, 09:02 AM
Trade Pau for Melo now when his value is high, do it Mitch!!!

Kool Bob Love
12-08-2013, 02:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOtlOTvUwLg

ElNono
12-21-2013, 12:53 AM
:wow He's back!

AchillesHeel
12-21-2013, 12:55 AM
Nono with the best thread since the above .500 one last season, tbh.

ElNono
12-21-2013, 01:33 AM
Hope the Spurs make a run for him when he becomes a free agent, tbh...

Although a 20-10 guy with leadership like him probably gonna get paid...

Clipper Nation
12-21-2013, 01:40 AM
MVPau's always welcome across the hallway at Staples, where he'd actually be appreciated....

Arnold Toht
12-21-2013, 01:42 AM
Nono with the best thread since the above .500 one last season, tbh.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/853/463/102302981_display_image.jpg?1302578866

^ I see the Bill Russell Finals MVP award about to be in someone else's grasp.

ElNono
12-21-2013, 01:55 AM
Don't quite get why Kirbystans are so mad, tbh... Reeks of insecurity.

MVPau is leading the Lakers into a winning season, what's not to like, tbh?

AchillesHeel
12-21-2013, 02:21 AM
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/853/463/102302981_display_image.jpg?1302578866

^ I see the Bill Russell Finals MVP award about to be in someone else's grasp.

The picture shows that Pau is the ultimate team guy, celebrating with the entire team while Kirby is demanding the Finals MVP trophy.

Arnold Toht
12-21-2013, 02:26 AM
The player who is most valuable to his championship team is the ultimate team guy. Don't even try to spin it.

AchillesHeel
12-21-2013, 02:43 AM
The player who is most valuable to his championship team is the ultimate team guy. Don't even try to spin it.

And it's Pau Gasol per the stats and eye test. Kirby just chucks 20-30 shots a game to get his 25-30 points on 43-45% shooting. Pau led the Lakers in Winshares and had a PER as high as Kirby and let's not even mention who plays better defense.

Kirby is proven to be a cancer, now he's ruining the future of your team. And you still defend him? Pathetic.

whitemamba
12-21-2013, 03:20 PM
is this the first game pau has played well since kobes absence ?

spurraider21
12-21-2013, 03:44 PM
11-9

spurraider21
12-21-2013, 09:43 PM
Pau out today with respiratory issue

Killakobe81
12-21-2013, 10:23 PM
Pau played great ...
He and Swaggy P brought us home ...

ambchang
12-22-2013, 12:34 AM
MVPau leading the lakers to an overachieving season despite being way past his prime.

One of the most underrated players this century.

Deuce Bigalow
12-23-2013, 10:56 PM
Is that another career high by Pau's man?

MVPau giving teams gifts, this man is so generous.

LakerHater
12-23-2013, 10:59 PM
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3762733/PAUOW1.jpg

LakerHater
12-23-2013, 11:03 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcOJPbtCAAAACTe.jpg

Clipper Nation
12-23-2013, 11:26 PM
Damn, MVPau.... warrior status, tbh....

irishock
12-23-2013, 11:27 PM
Pau Gasol bleeding out there trying to win games for LA

Thread
12-23-2013, 11:27 PM
Pau Gasol bleeding out there trying to win games for LA

After taking the other nite off.

spurraider21
12-27-2013, 09:17 PM
lets see how the lakers fare against the worst in the west with mvpau out

spurraider21
12-27-2013, 11:28 PM
Damn... Losing to the jazz on a putback... Could have used Pau's defensive rebounding

AchillesHeel
12-27-2013, 11:36 PM
Damn... Losing to the jazz on a putback... Could have used Pau's defensive rebounding

you see that out of bounds play? :lmao he got the ball at half court and had 2 seconds to get a shot off

Lakers without MVPau are a 20-win team.

Bynumite
12-27-2013, 11:36 PM
Lakers did good considering no Kobe, Pau, Blake and no Young for the last 5 minutes. Anyway, tanking is the motto right now.

spurraider21
12-27-2013, 11:39 PM
Imagine how effective tanking would be with pau out and Kobe playing :lol

DeadlyDynasty
12-28-2013, 12:06 AM
:lolmissing the game with a wittle cold

Hopefully one of his faggot fanbois in this thread can make him some chicken noodle soup and tuck him in tonight.

Thread
12-28-2013, 12:13 AM
:lolmissing the game with a wittle cold

Hopefully one of his faggot fanbois in this thread can make him some chicken noodle soup and tuck him in tonight.

Word up:::don't be a bit surprised if after the new year we don't start hinting at extending him. Just warning ya.

spurraider21
12-28-2013, 12:13 AM
Meh if tanking is your MO you should keep pau out and get Kobe all the fetuses he can handle

DeadlyDynasty
12-28-2013, 12:18 AM
No, just keep it status quo and watch the Lakers slowly lose steam and devolve into shit. It'll be the gift of playoff Pau, but months earlier

Splits
01-04-2014, 08:32 AM
:wow 23/17/8 with 3 blocks to snap The Streak

impressive.

Thread
01-04-2014, 08:43 AM
No, just keep it status quo and watch the Lakers slowly lose steam and devolve into shit. It'll be the gift of playoff Pau, but months earlier

Deads

ElNono
01-04-2014, 09:37 AM
:wow 23/17/8 with 3 blocks to snap The Streak

impressive.

Capt Pau coming through again

AchillesHeel
01-04-2014, 09:43 AM
:wow 23/17/8 with 3 blocks to snap The Streak

impressive.

Prime Hakeem numbers

Clipper Nation
01-04-2014, 10:26 AM
MVPau doesn't tank :downspin:

Thread
01-04-2014, 10:30 AM
MVPau doesn't tank :downspin:

Injuries not so funny now, huh?

You had it comin', CN. Admit it.

- Pap

Arnold Toht
01-04-2014, 10:31 AM
MVPau doesn't tank :downspin:

The April&May Clippers do.

DeadlyDynasty
01-04-2014, 12:59 PM
Spurfan has a fetish for uncircumcised euros tbh

ElNono
01-04-2014, 01:04 PM
Lakeshow with MVPau and without Cancer: 12-12 :wow

Dunno why Lakerfan is mad Euro is trying to save the franchise some face, tbh

DeadlyDynasty
01-04-2014, 01:08 PM
OMG 12-12?!!! I am overfuckingwhelmed...save some of that Pau semen for the rest of us

AchillesHeel
01-04-2014, 01:19 PM
OMG 12-12?!!! I am overfuckingwhelmed...save some of that Pau semen for the rest of us

:lol omg ur so funny bruh

spurraider21
01-04-2014, 01:26 PM
OMG 12-12?!!! I am overfuckingwhelmed...save some of that Pau semen for the rest of us
2-7 in the rest of the games