serious talk, if the clippers wants to be taken seriously, should they trade griffin?

[RsxPiimp]

so the dude is 24? obviously has great athleticism and appears to have a good head above his shoulder. but i don't know, if the clippers wants to win, they need to ditch the guy since deandre is practically giving the same type of production and highlights for less.



i see blake having a perennial all star like career similar to kemp, webber, amare but doesnt seem to have the fundamentals to be a player like chuck, kg, malone etc.



can this guy be an actual first or second option on a championship team?


i think the clippers should trade the guy for lamarcus aldridge honestly. griffin really is no different than josh smith at this point.


an excerpt from a recent article


"His point production actually fell precipitously through his first three seasons, from 22.5 points per game to 18 in 2012-13. His rebound-per-game average also dropped from 12.1 to 8.3 over that span. And at a moribund 66 percent, Griffin's free-throw shooting is only slightly better than the 64 percent he shot in his first active season.

Griffin's 0.6 blocks-per-game average in 2012-13, meanwhile, was also only slightly better than the 0.5 he put up his first season.

By comparison, Karl Malone -- the broad-shouldered Hall of Fame prototype Griffin has often been compared to -- saw his scoring average jump from 14.9 to 27.7 over his first three seasons, while his rebounding average went from 8.9 per game to 12.

Tim Duncan, another definer of the modern-day power forward, saw his scoring increase steadily from 21.1 ppg to 23.2 over his first three years, with rebounding also increasing from 11.9 to 12.4. Perhaps most notable, Duncan led the San Antonio Spurs to an NBA title in his first season in 1998-99"

[Arnold Toht]

He's a Clipper product, he's damaged goods.

[Baseline]

Blake's just a really gifted athlete, and that athleticism/power/size combo makes it possible for him to average 17-18 points a night. But he's certainly not a natural scorer. His ability to score without dunking is still limited, and defenses know that. Defenders will let him shoot 18-ffot jumpers all night rather than allow him to drive. Also, his ballhandling is excellent for a big man, but his finishing skills other than dunks could be better...especially in the half court. Rebounding is a different story - he was way more ferocious on the glass in his rookie season.

[StrengthAndHonor]

You don't make decisions like this for purely basketball reasons. Griffin is loved in L.A., he's the second most popular athlete in the city. His first few years under VDN taught him nothing, this is his first year under a decent coach. I'll give them a 2-3 yr window and if Griffin doesn't improve defensively and at the line then we'll see, but at this point, his potential is just too great. The Clippers championship hopes does hinge on him, unfair or not, he does need to step up at a quicker pace.

[StrengthAndHonor]

He's a Clipper product, he's damaged goods.

Lamar was a Clipper and he helped Kobe get his 4th and 5th tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol your concerns about Griffin are understandable, but then your example of a replacement is Lamarcus Aldridge?..

Aldridge is one of the softest big men in the NBA, tbh..also, he refuses to play in the post anymore, he just shoots jump shots..


Griffin will improve, tbh..he can be a solid #2 guy on a title team in a system that plays to his strengths, he has the skills, he just needs the system..

Clippers don't have a legit #1 option though, tbh..

[StrengthAndHonor]

:lol your concerns about Griffin are understandable, but then your example of a replacement is Lamarcus Aldridge?..

Aldridge is one of the softest big men in the NBA, tbh..also, he refuses to play in the post anymore, he just shoots jump shots..


Griffin will improve, tbh..he can be a solid #2 guy on a title team in a system that plays to his strengths, he has the skills, he just needs the system..

Clippers don't have a legit #1 option though, tbh..


I was going to post this too. It's not really an upgrade bringing LMA for Blake tbh.

[scanry]

Tim Duncan, another definer of the modern-day power forward, saw his scoring increase steadily from 21.1 ppg to 23.2 over his first three years, with rebounding also increasing from 11.9 to 12.4. Perhaps most notable, Duncan led the San Antonio Spurs to an NBA title in his first season in 1998-99"

Duncan led the Spurs to titles in his second and sixth season.

Most importantly he had a post up game from the get go unlike players like Howard, Griffin, Kemp, Garnett and the rest.

You need foot work, agility and a hook shot to consistently score in the paint. A lot of the guards learn as they get older and can't rely on jumpers all day like MJ, West, Kobe, Tony Parker, Stockton and etc.

[Johnsyounger]

Whats interesting is if you put a 23 year old Duncan in Blakes place you got a real contender. Blake isn't half the player Duncan or even KG is.... even Pau or Zbo would make that team more interesting...Blakes skill set is very limited...

[chief keef]

I was going to post this too. It's not really an upgrade bringing LMA for Blake tbh.

swap them and the clips go to the finals easily

[lefty]

He will have to work hard every single day next summer

In the summer of 95, after the Sonics underachieved for the 2nd straight season, Shawn Kemp worked in the gym, on a basketball court and even in corn fields like a madman in Indiana, all summer long.

He came back as a more complete player, had an MVP type of season and the Sonics went to the NBA Finals

Yeah I know the rest of his career wasnt so great, but my point is that with the same dedication, Blake can reach another level

[GuerillaBlack]

Duncan led the Spurs to titles in his second and sixth season.

Most importantly he had a post up game from the get go unlike players like Howard, Griffin, Kemp, Garnett and the rest.

You need foot work, agility and a hook shot to consistently score in the paint. A lot of the guards learn as they get older and can't rely on jumpers all day like MJ, West, Kobe, Tony Parker, Stockton and etc.

To be fair, Duncan was a few years older than all of these players when he entered the league, especially ones like Howard and KG coming straight from HS.

[Rogue]

monkeyball is athletic as fuck but he's not that naturally gifted imho. it seems like his wingspan hasn't grown since his 6th grade which also encumbers his game imho

[stomp]

Blake for kevin love??