Mid-Late 90s/early 2000s rap was...

[AchillesHeel]

the shitznit


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC4ORS5n9Hg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX5VCY28_Xo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx_X6KPeM3A

[AchillesHeel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBMaYLrl3mU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QagknwNl6Q4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMWBh0B9F0M

[AchillesHeel]

gotta get some rule in this bish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5NXlIlygts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLx00bjVKc
errbody have to know this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ4tNmnuMgQ

[IronMexican]

l12Csc_lW0Q

[silverblk mystix]

sad

[rascal]

Garbage, not even music.

[2pac > Kobe]

uijHb5U1pD8
cpk6FTbxvc4

[silverblk mystix]

Garbage, not even music.

[xmas1997]

Trash

[Clipper Nation]

That era of hip-hop makes faggots like Drake sound like absolute shit by comparison, tbh....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_jbluF0qo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dr1kQDGgRk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_25FlxDw5As

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM81TyMoNpc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z-VxXEpjYw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScpGYQ2ygU8

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayfv0SOjvRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-E--iVQ7wE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qZXENAU4xY

[DJR210]

sad

:lol

Look at the shit you like..

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208129

Doll Box? The Eagles?

:lol

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK3MIu-2FUM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci78Y6oTAY8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr0tntiFGM8

[benefactor]

:lol old people...why even enter the thread?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pjHlizcXI8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN_o5b3Ercw

[DJR210]

:lol old people...why even enter the thread?

Right? The osteoporosis crew had to show up, all we need is an avante appearance.

[benefactor]

...and of course, Slim was Slim back then.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=053yG9Bcfr8

[DJR210]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0PB4o9GH2A


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63kRUCWstCo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9La1ZO2tW8s

[Clipper Nation]

Garbage, not even music.
Far better than the old people shit you listen to, tbh.....

[DJR210]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZEjKf4gBJw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99OMPB9a9Ak


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFpwOZaxjAc

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtRbEgoTqQs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUDNMmbYtkw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM36LjjJkR0

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSTc5UFdx0Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bufqNV-fmE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTBI0ZVtdyQ

[m>s]

n!ggers

[silverblk mystix]

Right? The osteoporosis crew had to show up, all we need is an avante appearance.


At least we never resorted to acting black, talking black, and listening to shitty - wanna be black music. Wearing baggy pants down our asses or "impersonating hoodlums" and all that other garbage. Are you black? Then for god's sake get a hold of yourself and stop impersonating other talentless idiots - regardless of their ethnic background.

Soul music was at least made by soulful people.

"now - get off my lawn!" :lol


"yo"

lol

[DJR210]

At least we never resorted to acting black, talking black, and listening to shitty - wanna be black music. Wearing baggy pants down our asses or "impersonating hoodlums" and all that other garbage. Are you black? Then for god's sake get a hold of yourself and stop impersonating other talentless idiots - regardless of their ethnic background.

Soul music was at least made by soulful people.

"now - get off my lawn!" :lol


"yo"

lol

:lol Go listen to Doll $ Box bitch.

[Clipper Nation]

At least we never resorted to acting black, talking black, and listening to shitty - wanna be black music. Wearing baggy pants down our asses or "impersonating hoodlums" and all that other garbage. Are you black?
lol "enlightened" racist against "labeling"

You do realize there are plenty of talented rappers who aren't black, right? Real hip-hop is not about "acting black," dumbass... and real rappers (not the faggots on the radio nowadays) are better lyricists than the majority of other genres, imho....

In before you try to deflect from your hypocrisy and ignorance by calling me a :cry "snitch" :cry

[rascal]

Far better than the old people shit you listen to, tbh.....

Not even close. I listen to music that has a melody and people actually sing.

[silverblk mystix]

lol "enlightened" racist against "labeling"

You do realize there are plenty of talented rappers who aren't black, right? Real hip-hop is not about "acting black," dumbass... and real rappers (not the faggots on the radio nowadays) are better lyricists than the majority of other genres, imho....

In before you try to deflect from your hypocrisy and ignorance by calling me a :cry "snitch" :cry


Dumbshit.

Rap and hip hop came from blacks in the ghettos of major meccas like NY and other spots -

The idiots that are not black and copied them - are just that - copies!

I got no hate for the originals - IN ANYTHING - be original. Be true. Be yourself. Wear whatever YOU wear.

These idiots - like yourself - who see some originals and begin acting like them, singing/rapping like them, dressing like them -talking like them
(yo my nigga) lol


are nothing but wanna be's and fake copycats who have no fucking integrity.

Spin that - snitch troll.

[Clipper Nation]

Dumbshit.

Rap and hip hop came from blacks in the ghettos of major meccas like NY and other spots -

The idiots that are not black and copied them - are just that - copies!
Hey dumbfuck, the history of white rappers goes all the way back to DJ Flash and the Rappers Rapp Group in 1981.... even though hip-hop has predominantly black origins, non-black rappers have been around since pretty much the beginnings of the modern genre....

By your logic, all those faggy soft-rock bands you listen to are also "wannabe's and fake copycats with no integrity," as rock-and-roll has its roots in predominantly African-American genres like R&B, gospel, jazz, and blues....

[silverblk mystix]

Hey dumbfuck, the history of white rappers goes all the way back to DJ Flash and the Rappers Rapp Group in 1981.... even though hip-hop has predominantly black origins, non-black rappers have been around since pretty much the beginnings of the modern genre....

By your logic, all those faggy soft-rock bands you listen to are also "wannabe's and fake copycats with no integrity," as rock-and-roll has its roots in predominantly African-American genres like R&B, gospel, jazz, and blues....





Here is something for YOU to consider - but by all means - continue copying other cultures and other idiots - you are the one looking like an unoriginal idiot - but consider this;


Imagine....


That all young black, latinos, & hip-hop caucasians...


suddenly go to COUNTRY music...and being wearing cowboy hats, speaking TWANG, en masse -


and copying that whole COUNTRY STYLE AND LIFESTYLE!!!!


You would look idiotic wouldn't you?



This is how this BLACK RAP WORSHIP shit looks to someone - who never copied other groups or cultures or music.


You do your own thing or you are just another wanna be.

[Clipper Nation]

Imagine....


That all young black, latinos, & hip-hop caucasians...


suddenly go to COUNTRY music...and being wearing cowboy hats, speaking TWANG, en masse -


and copying that whole COUNTRY STYLE AND LIFESTYLE!!!!


You would look idiotic wouldn't you?



This is how this BLACK RAP WORSHIP shit looks to someone - who never copied other groups or cultures or music.


You do your own thing or you are just another wanna be.
You're right, we should all show our "individualism" by listening to the same faggy soft-rock groups that you listen to :lol

Again, by your logic, every time you listen to The Eagles, you are "copying other cultures" by listening to a genre invented by black people being performed by a band of white people....

[silverblk mystix]

You're right, we should all show our "individualism" by listening to the same faggy soft-rock groups that you listen to :lol

Again, by your logic, every time you listen to The Eagles, you are "copying other cultures" by listening to a genre invented by black people being performed by a band of white people....


Dumbsnitch -

There is a huge fuckin difference in listening to music and...

talking, acting, dressing, worshipping, etc...

Rock music came from blacks and it was all a copied thing - but I didn't begin doing the above things - only listening to the shit.

When I see a moron LATINO kid wearing pants under his ass and talking like a black kid and he comes up to me and say,

"yo - wut up my nigga?"

I wanna slap the shit out of him. I tell him, "son, wake the fuck up and speak to me like an educated person - ok?"


Now - gtf off my lawn. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Dumbsnitch -

There is a huge fuckin difference in listening to music and...

talking, acting, dressing, worshipping, etc...
Your "argument" depends on the assumption that everyone who listens to hip-hop acts the same way, and you would be wrong, tbh....

[silverblk mystix]

Your "argument" depends on the assumption that everyone who listens to hip-hop acts the same way, and you would be wrong, tbh....



Look at you - you dumbsnitch!!!!


An asian kid who is ashamed of being asian and acts black!!!

Have some fuckin dignity.


I will speak to you man to man here, son.

Asians are ok. You are ok. Be a fuckin man and own it and act with integrity. Stop following others. Stop snitching. Fly your asian flag proudly. Be a fuckin man, for once. Fuck the rest of the world. Be you. Don't look to someone else to decide what you are.

You are welcome.

[SA210]

Hey dumbfuck, the history of white rappers goes all the way back


Interesting, interesting. That's very deep bro. Now please explain how far back history goes on followers, their roots..and how you decided to be one. Did your dream to be a follower start in the crib? As a teen? Did you one day watch The Breakfast Club, got a crush on Anthony Michael Hall, then you thought you saw him here on Spurstalk and have followed him and his shticks ever since? Please elaborate for the history books, and for Fag-ipedia. Thank you.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol SA210 coming in to rescue SBM per par
:lol Resorting to the usual schticks now that you've lost the argument

[silverblk mystix]

Interesting, interesting. That's very deep bro. Now please explain how far back history goes on followers, their roots..and how you decided to be one. Did your dream to be a follower start in the crib? As a teen? Did you one day watch The Breakfast Club, got a crush on Anthony Michael Hall, then you thought you saw him here on Spurstalk and have followed him and his shticks ever since? Please elaborate for the history books, and for Fag-ipedia. Thank you.



Vanilla Ice?

[silverblk mystix]

:lol SA210 coming in to rescue SBM per par
:lol Resorting to the usual schticks now that you've lost the argument


Heed my words son - they were heartfelt and sincere.

[SA210]

:lol SA210 coming in to rescue SBM per par



That's not an answer to what I asked you about your follower history. Here I'll ask again..



Interesting, interesting. That's very deep bro. Now please explain how far back history goes on followers, their roots..and how you decided to be one. Did your dream to be a follower start in the crib? As a teen? Did you one day watch The Breakfast Club, got a crush on Anthony Michael Hall, then you thought you saw him here on Spurstalk and have followed him and his shticks ever since? Please elaborate for the history books, and for Fag-ipedia. Thank you.

[SA210]

Vanilla Ice?

ClitterNation not far off tbh..


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GljwQl_xB50/TauCyDexGII/AAAAAAAAALk/mbun0bbwvUo/s1600/mullet1.jpg



:lmao

[silverblk mystix]

:lmao


Don't listen to him clitternation - fly your flag son!


Seriously.

[SA210]

:lmao


Don't listen to him clitternation - fly your flag son!


Seriously.


:lol Why are these trolls running all of a sudden?

[Avante]

rap simply doen't deliver the goods if you know music. If you are new to music ok I can see it.

[leemajors]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvMCA9jHFZ0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j02V67iKeIA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-HjhxG0SYE

[leemajors]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u1Ps6ZlDxA

[xmas1997]

Since when did rap start to be considered music?
Definition of music = an art form consisting of sequences of sounds in time, esp tones of different pitch organized melodically, harmonically, rhythmically, and according to tone color.

Rap does not fit the description, sorry.

[Clipper Nation]

Since when did rap start to be considered music?
Definition of music = an art form consisting of sequences of sounds in time, esp tones of different pitch organized melodically, harmonically, rhythmically, and according to tone color.

Rap does not fit the description, sorry.
Pretty much all beats fit that description and many rappers also sing, tbh....

[leemajors]

Since when did rap start to be considered music?
Definition of music = an art form consisting of sequences of sounds in time, esp tones of different pitch organized melodically, harmonically, rhythmically, and according to tone color.

Rap does not fit the description, sorry.

That's not the definition of music.

[benefactor]

Black Ice :tu

[xmas1997]

That's not the definition of music.

According to Dictionary.com it is. Are they not reputable?
If not, what is?
I will keep an open mind about this, but so far I have never heard of any musician claiming rap was music.

[leemajors]

According to Dictionary.com it is. Are they not reputable?
If not, what is?
I will keep an open mind about this, but so far I have never heard of any musician claiming rap was music.

You haven't heard many musicians talk about rap then. Give up the dumb shtick. Is free jazz not music either? Ambient music?

[benefactor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSLZSQTADfU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvY7QH-Tiag


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpabGXYugFE

Fuck Faces had one cold ass beat.

[resistanze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-HjhxG0SYE

Andre murdered the track.

[xmas1997]

You haven't heard many musicians talk about rap then. Give up the dumb shtick. Is free jazz not music either? Ambient music?

IMHO they are. But rap? Jury is still out for that. Where is the tonal quality? The only instrument I hear is drums.
Seriously! No schtick involved. I am open to points of views, however. Just because it is sold in the music sections of most stores does not automatically make it a musical genre. I don't hear any melody or harmony lines like you do with soul music, which I really like.

[Clipper Nation]

Again, many rappers and rap groups use live instrumentation and/or sing.... for someone who pretends to be open-minded, you sure have a closed-minded view of what music is, tbh....

[Koolaid_Man]

rap music is bad for youth...but I listen anyway...

Pregnant Pussy :toast

Q7EGWwQwYgE

[leemajors]

IMHO they are. But rap? Jury is still out for that. Where is the tonal quality? The only instrument I hear is drums.
Seriously! No schtick involved. I am open to points of views, however. Just because it is sold in the music sections of most stores does not automatically make it a musical genre. I don't hear any melody or harmony lines like you do with soul music, which I really like.

Hip-hop is an art form with 4 components, two are musical - rap and turntablism. These are things we know.

[xmas1997]

Again, many rappers and rap groups use live instrumentation and/or sing.... for someone who pretends to be open-minded, you sure have a closed-minded view of what music is, tbh....

And you sure like to make snap judgements based off of simple questions.
Don't you realize that is more closed minded than my asking questions?
I wasn't pretending, I don't need to.
But it seems you took it rather too personally.
For your information I am a musician these days, is why I asked. I don't Get the whole rap thing.
And I never know where my next inspiration for a new song will come from which is why I am so inquisitive.
That should bring you up to date. :lol

[xmas1997]

Hip-hop is an art form with 4 components, two are musical - rap and turntablism. These are things we know.

Thank you, Lee. I was hoping for a civil answer like that.
You could take a lesson or two in civility from Lee here, CN.

[DAF86]

Here is something for YOU to consider - but by all means - continue copying other cultures and other idiots - you are the one looking like an unoriginal idiot - but consider this;


Imagine....


That all young black, latinos, & hip-hop caucasians...


suddenly go to COUNTRY music...and being wearing cowboy hats, speaking TWANG, en masse -


and copying that whole COUNTRY STYLE AND LIFESTYLE!!!!


You would look idiotic wouldn't you?



This is how this BLACK RAP WORSHIP shit looks to someone - who never copied other groups or cultures or music.


You do your own thing or you are just another wanna be.

Well yeah, everybody that uses cowboy hats and boots looks idiotic, tbh.

[DAF86]

n!ggers

I can do it better.

n¡ggers.

[AchillesHeel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgoqrgc_0cM
any1 here remember this classic mixtape by 9th? it's been 10 fucking years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr1TCNTS2fM
Nas got so many classics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ8AmN2XaIM

[AchillesHeel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRVEFsDOfdE
this really isn't early 2000s but the best collab since Big L and Jay's freestyle, tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHBGLLKdRuo
Oh and since I already mentioned the word freestyle, this shit bangs, nigga just flows off the top of his head while drunk as fuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-IpeU-aWvs

[xmas1997]

Hip-hop is an art form with 4 components, two are musical - rap and turntablism. These are things we know.

Just for clarification:
What are the four components?
And how is turntablism musical?
Are you saying that a turntable is a musical instrument?
Because I always thought a turntable was a device for the playing of records and listening to already recorded music.

[leemajors]

A turntable can definitely be used as a musical instrument. It fits your chosen definition easily.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfwXxRNVqi4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVjgRlto8PI

4 elements of hip hop are rhyming, dj'ing, breaking, and graffiti.

[xmas1997]

A turntable can definitely be used as a musical instrument. It fits your chosen definition easily.
4 elements of hip hop are rhyming, dj'ing, breaking, and graffiti.

The rhyming fits for cadence and timing, but how does dj'ing fit?
Breaking? What is being broken and why?
And graffiti is a visual art form, not an aural one, which music is.
Help me understand this better. No disrespect is intended.

[leemajors]

watch wild style or style wars.

[resistanze]

The rhyming fits for cadence and timing, but how does dj'ing fit?
Breaking? What is being broken and why?
And graffiti is a visual art form, not an aural one, which music is.
Help me understand this better. No disrespect is intended.

Shut up faggot

[AchillesHeel]

The rhyming fits for cadence and timing, but how does dj'ing fit?
Breaking? What is being broken and why?
And graffiti is a visual art form, not an aural one, which music is.
Help me understand this better. No disrespect is intended.

use Google

[silverblk mystix]

Well yeah, everybody that uses cowboy hats and boots looks idiotic, tbh.


Exactly.


Now look at the rap/hip hop world - and this is exactly how idiotic you look.

Look back at the disco era - and see how faggoty and stupid those tight pants and open shirts with chains look and faggoty guys dancing like Tony Manero /Travolta look -

fast forward 30 years - this is how faggoty all you rap wanna-bes - (mainly the ones that aren't even black) are going to look when you look back.



:rollin:rollin:rollin

[AchillesHeel]

Exactly.


Now look at the rap/hip hop world - and this is exactly how idiotic you look.

Look back at the disco era - and see how faggoty and stupid those tight pants and open shirts with chains look and faggoty guys dancing like Tony Manero /Travolta look -

fast forward 30 years - this is how faggoty all you rap wanna-bes - (mainly the ones that aren't even black) are going to look when you look back.



:rollin:rollin:rollin

I'm a big fan of hip-hop and I dress like a normal human being, just because the rappers choose to dress a certain way doesn't mean that all their listeners do too.

[silverblk mystix]

I'm a big fan of hip-hop and I dress like a normal human being, just because the rappers choose to dress a certain way doesn't mean that all their listeners do too.


Yes, I agree with you. I am referring to those sideways baseball cap, jeans ten sizes too big under their ass, talking gangsta', wanna be black

idiots.

[leemajors]

Yes, I agree with you. I am referring to those sideways baseball cap, jeans ten sizes too big under their ass, talking gangsta', wanna be black

idiots.

A truly enlightened perspective, as always.

[xmas1997]

Shut up faggot


And this response explains what exactly?
That you are mature?
Or more likely you have something to hide since you evaded the questions?
Your discussion attitude speaks volumes.
:lol

[silverblk mystix]

Just for clarification:
What are the four components?
And how is turntablism musical?
Are you saying that a turntable is a musical instrument?
Because I always thought a turntable was a device for the playing of records and listening to already recorded music.




A turntable has a switch. One click and it goes = OFF
One click in the other direction and it goes = ON

Years and years and years of musical training go into this seemingly simple act. A DJ goes through a woodshedding - phase - you know like for example a young Eddie Van Halen - or a very young Andres Segovia - when they would spend 18 hours a day in a room by themselves with their musical instrument - for months and years on end. After this woodshedding - they would face the world and the world would drop their collective jaws.

A DJ - if that is the proper title - does the same thing - then one day - they flick this ON/OFF switch with the world as witness.
Same thing if you compare a vocalist who woodshedded and trained their voice - and played years and years of shitty gigs to become a world class vocalist -
A rapper - flicks on the switch - you know - the switch where the pre-recorded drums play (the drums that were recorded by a real drummer)- then he talks really fast or really angry and cusses a lot - suddenly he is known as an artist.

Quite amazing.

[xmas1997]

A turntable has a switch. One click and it goes = OFF
One click in the other direction and it goes = ON

Years and years and years of musical training go into this seemingly simple act. A DJ goes through a woodshedding - phase - you know like for example a young Eddie Van Halen - or a very young Andres Segovia - when they would spend 18 hours a day in a room by themselves with their musical instrument - for months and years on end. After this woodshedding - they would face the world and the world would drop their collective jaws.

A DJ - if that is the proper title - does the same thing - then one day - they flick this ON/OFF switch with the world as witness.
Same thing if you compare a vocalist who woodshedded and trained their voice - and played years and years of shitty gigs to become a world class vocalist -
A rapper - flicks on the switch - you know - the switch where the pre-recorded drums play (the drums that were recorded by a real drummer)- then he talks really fast or really angry and cusses a lot - suddenly he is known as an artist.

Quite amazing.


:lmao

That's what I thought.
So rap is Not a genre of music.

[leemajors]

A turntable has a switch. One click and it goes = OFF
One click in the other direction and it goes = ON

Years and years and years of musical training go into this seemingly simple act. A DJ goes through a woodshedding - phase - you know like for example a young Eddie Van Halen - or a very young Andres Segovia - when they would spend 18 hours a day in a room by themselves with their musical instrument - for months and years on end. After this woodshedding - they would face the world and the world would drop their collective jaws.

A DJ - if that is the proper title - does the same thing - then one day - they flick this ON/OFF switch with the world as witness.
Same thing if you compare a vocalist who woodshedded and trained their voice - and played years and years of shitty gigs to become a world class vocalist -
A rapper - flicks on the switch - you know - the switch where the pre-recorded drums play (the drums that were recorded by a real drummer)- then he talks really fast or really angry and cusses a lot - suddenly he is known as an artist.

Quite amazing.

Herbie Hancock begs to differ:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A762XcUZG5g

[silverblk mystix]

Herbie Hancock begs to differ:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A762XcUZG5g


Herbie Hancock is a musician. A child prodigy who was a world class pianist/keyboardist. He played with fuckin' Miles Davis -
in which universe is he known as a "rapper?" A true world class musician. Maybe you didn't read my post.

[leemajors]

Herbie Hancock is a musician. A child prodigy who was a world class pianist/keyboardist. He played with fuckin' Miles Davis -
in which universe is he known as a "rapper?" A true world class musician. Maybe you didn't read my post.

He included another world class musician, Grandmaster DXT, who specializes in turntable music on several of his albums. Your post was ignorant drivel that can only lead us to believe you have been cucked by a DJ, honestly.

[O.J. Simpson]

Herbie Hancock is a musician. A child prodigy who was a world class pianist/keyboardist. He played with fuckin' Miles Davis -
in which universe is he known as a "rapper?" A true world class musician. Maybe you didn't read my post.

Yet you consider the sound of your fingers thrusting an inmate's cornhole music.

How fuckin' ironic.

[silverblk mystix]

He included another world class musician, Grandmaster DXT, who specializes in turntable music on several of his albums. Your post was ignorant drivel that can only lead us to believe you have been cucked by a DJ, honestly.


A turntable prodigy!

He can twist a round turntable and make scratchy noises - awesome!

Herbie Hancock = Musician

Grandmaster = rofl

[johnsmith]

It's funny to me when people argue that their music is better then someone elses music.


Couldn't possibly be a preference thing.

[xmas1997]

Shut up faggot


Somehow we are supposed to believe this is an intelligent response?
Go figure! :lol

[silverblk mystix]

It's funny to me when people argue that their music is better then someone elses music.


Couldn't possibly be a preference thing.


You are absolutely correct.

I was just jerking chains -

All music is good - and I was just fuckin' around - it seemed to cause a little butthurt.

Just kidding fellas - I got love for all musicians, all rappers, all artists.

Now the wanna bees that follow around and dress,talk, act , etc.... I was serious about that. Sorry. It was still only my opinion.

No one's music or generation tbh - is better or worse than anyone else's. Just having fun.

[resistanze]

Somehow we are supposed to believe this is an intelligent response?
Go figure! :lol

Shut up faggot

[silverblk mystix]

Shut up faggot

[AchillesHeel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9m8D6-pj7Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ4gOcMzjZ4

[xmas1997]

First time writing English. Don't make fun of foreigners. He's Canadian.

[benefactor]

Getting this thread back on track, I'd like to dedicate this next song to Buddy Mignon, Avante and Koolaid_Man.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8jm8i2uues

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Good stuff outside of the boomers hating on just one generation after. Well that and the race baiters.

Y9B7rxtxZs4

p5vuTToYN8M

uhfui-Jxp44

4Oo2XO_ub18

1mt3vZHDiM8

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9m8D6-pj7Q
This redeems the Ja Rule shit you posted earlier. He was the beginning of the end.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9_FkoLZ3hY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3BJGHPdh8E

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AHzkg7yxww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITLNzPoEqs

[AchillesHeel]

This redeems the Ja Rule shit you posted earlier. He was the beginning of the end.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9_FkoLZ3hY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3BJGHPdh8E

Compared to today's rap, Rule's "pop music" is not that bad, tbh. I guess I've come to appreciate all the RnB and singing shit from the early 2000s because of guys like Drake, tbh.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn0qJBKPqvo

[AchillesHeel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmvtNkKmEdE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnjXM2TgzRw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMPKeG_j7QY

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao

That's what I thought.
So rap is Not a genre of music.

sbm is wrong. The is a cross fader that allows you to mix what the two turntables are playing. Its an analog continuous fade with either end being completely that turntable and the other off and then mixing the other in as you move the switch. Also you have to match the beats. If you have one going at 130 bpm and the other at 80 then you have to speed one up and/or slow one down. This changes the tone and you have to find what sounds good. There is a lot of rhythm with it as well because you have to move from various bars in the song being played on both tables. It's not all that hard to do once you get a feel for it especially if you are musically inclined.

Also there is scratching where you have to find segments that you can pull through and move it at the proper speed to get the sound and flow that you like.

All of that is rhythm and harmony. The sound you can get out of it can be quite diverse but the typical rhythm is one trach that is on the beat and the other with parts on the back beat. That gives you the syncopation and the hip to the hop.

if that is not music then neither is something like the trumpet which is entirely single notes in a set range much less something like the tympani or even less the bass drum.

you're just ignorant to the genre and reject it out of hand.

[leemajors]

sbm is wrong. The is a cross fader that allows you to mix what the two turntables are playing. Its an analog continuous fade with either end being completely that turntable and the other off and then mixing the other in as you move the switch. Also you have to match the beats. If you have one going at 130 bpm and the other at 80 then you have to speed one up and/or slow one down. This changes the tone and you have to find what sounds good. There is a lot of rhythm with it as well because you have to move from various bars in the song being played on both tables. It's not all that hard to do once you get a feel for it especially if you are musically inclined.

Also there is scratching where you have to find segments that you can pull through and move it at the proper speed to get the sound and flow that you like.

All of that is rhythm and harmony. The sound you can get out of it can be quite diverse but the typical rhythm is one trach that is on the beat and the other with parts on the back beat. That gives you the syncopation and the hip to the hop.

if that is not music then neither is something like the trumpet which is entirely single notes in a set range much less something like the tympani or even less the bass drum.

you're just ignorant to the genre and reject it out of hand.

I can't remember which documentary it was in, but I think it was the Bernie Worrell one Stranger, where he talked about hip hop and how widely sampled his music (and P-Funk family in general) was. Initially he was upset, but then he realized they were taking the "new" sounds he created with Moogs, taking it further and creating even more new sounds and textures - and he realized how exciting what they were doing was. I don't think it hurt that De La Soul presented them with a $100K check for using Not Just Knee Deep :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I can't remember which documentary it was in, but I think it was the Bernie Worrell one Stranger, where he talked about hip hop and how widely sampled his music (and P-Funk family in general) was. Initially he was upset, but then he realized they were taking the "new" sounds he created with Moogs, taking it further and creating even more new sounds and textures - and he realized how exciting what they were doing was. I don't think it hurt that De La Soul presented them with a $100K check for using Not Just Knee Deep :lol

That is a good point. Alot of times you are seeing use of a roland 808 or various synthesizers like the moog you mention that are used for the music to flow over.

I'm not a fan of wheezy overall but i do like how bass heavy is. Shit like this just sounds nice. Have the lows crossed over into something that hits hard and its that much better.

j0-MuuyLsYo

[leemajors]

That is a good point. Alot of times you are seeing use of a roland 808 or various synthesizers like the moog you mention that are used for the music to flow over.

I'm not a fan of wheezy overall but i do like how bass heavy is. Shit like this just sounds nice. Have the lows crossed over into something that hits hard and its that much better.

j0-MuuyLsYo

Yeah, I am a big fan of dub too for the same reasons. The sound and deep bass they got out of their cheap equipment they cobbled together was amazing. I have a couple albums of DXT doing instrumental hip hop dub stuff collaborating with Bill Laswell:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhZlyu0aUeU

[xmas1997]

sbm is wrong. The is a cross fader that allows you to mix what the two turntables are playing. Its an analog continuous fade with either end being completely that turntable and the other off and then mixing the other in as you move the switch. Also you have to match the beats. If you have one going at 130 bpm and the other at 80 then you have to speed one up and/or slow one down. This changes the tone and you have to find what sounds good. There is a lot of rhythm with it as well because you have to move from various bars in the song being played on both tables. It's not all that hard to do once you get a feel for it especially if you are musically inclined.

Also there is scratching where you have to find segments that you can pull through and move it at the proper speed to get the sound and flow that you like.

All of that is rhythm and harmony. The sound you can get out of it can be quite diverse but the typical rhythm is one trach that is on the beat and the other with parts on the back beat. That gives you the syncopation and the hip to the hop.

if that is not music then neither is something like the trumpet which is entirely single notes in a set range much less something like the tympani or even less the bass drum.

you're just ignorant to the genre and reject it out of hand.

If you had left out your last sentence with the insult, I would have comprehended your opinion and kept an open mind.
But you had to be insulting and that negated your whole point.
Try again sometime when you have learned how to discuss an issue.
I guess I have to continue tutoring you until you "get" it.
In the meantime, I don't buy what you are selling.
Sorry, it fails miserably!

[TSA]

I can't remember which documentary it was in, but I think it was the Bernie Worrell one Stranger, where he talked about hip hop and how widely sampled his music (and P-Funk family in general) was. Initially he was upset, but then he realized they were taking the "new" sounds he created with Moogs, taking it further and creating even more new sounds and textures - and he realized how exciting what they were doing was. I don't think it hurt that De La Soul presented them with a $100K check for using Not Just Knee Deep :lol

Excellent documentary touching on exactly this.

tIoR3PYpduo
Copyright Criminals
"Long before people began posting their homemade video mashups on the Web, hip-hop musicians were perfecting the art of audio montage through sampling. Sampling — or riffing — is as old as music itself, but new technologies developed in the 1980s and 1990s made it easier to reuse existing sound recordings. Acts like Public Enemy, De La Soul and the Beastie Boys created complex rhythms, references and nuanced layers of original and appropriated sound. But by the early 1990s, sampling had collided with the law. When recording industry lawyers got involved, what was once called "borrowed melody" became "copyright infringement."

COPYRIGHT CRIMINALS examines the creative and commercial value of musical sampling, including the related debates over artistic expression, copyright law and money. The film showcases many of hip-hop music's founding figures like Public Enemy, De La Soul and Digital Underground, as well as emerging artists such as audiovisual remixers Eclectic Method. It also provides first-person interviews with artists who have been sampled, such as Clyde Stubblefield — James Brown's drummer and the world's most sampled musician — and commentary by another highly sampled musician, funk legend George Clinton.

Computers, mobile phones and other interactive technologies are changing our relationships with media, blurring the line between producer and consumer and radically changing what it means to be creative. As artists find more inventive ways to insert old influences into new material, COPYRIGHT CRIMINALS poses the question: Can you own a sound?"

"

[xmas1997]

Excellent documentary touching on exactly this.

tIoR3PYpduo
Copyright Criminals
"Long before people began posting their homemade video mashups on the Web, hip-hop musicians were perfecting the art of audio montage through sampling. Sampling — or riffing — is as old as music itself, but new technologies developed in the 1980s and 1990s made it easier to reuse existing sound recordings. Acts like Public Enemy, De La Soul and the Beastie Boys created complex rhythms, references and nuanced layers of original and appropriated sound. But by the early 1990s, sampling had collided with the law. When recording industry lawyers got involved, what was once called "borrowed melody" became "copyright infringement."

COPYRIGHT CRIMINALS examines the creative and commercial value of musical sampling, including the related debates over artistic expression, copyright law and money. The film showcases many of hip-hop music's founding figures like Public Enemy, De La Soul and Digital Underground, as well as emerging artists such as audiovisual remixers Eclectic Method. It also provides first-person interviews with artists who have been sampled, such as Clyde Stubblefield — James Brown's drummer and the world's most sampled musician — and commentary by another highly sampled musician, funk legend George Clinton.

Computers, mobile phones and other interactive technologies are changing our relationships with media, blurring the line between producer and consumer and radically changing what it means to be creative. As artists find more inventive ways to insert old influences into new material, COPYRIGHT CRIMINALS poses the question: Can you own a sound?"

"

Excellent post. I am starting to get where some of you are coming from now.
I may have to change my opinion.

[TSA]

Excellent post. I am starting to get where some of you are coming from now.
I may have to change my opinion.

Here is one of my all time favorites from the DMC team World Champs----Birdy Nam Nam

What's really different about this set is each guy is scratching a single instrument in order to create their "band".

qMYMC6atRoE

[resistanze]

If you had left out your last sentence with the insult, I would have comprehended your opinion and kept an open mind.
But you had to be insulting and that negated your whole point.
Try again sometime when you have learned how to discuss an issue.
I guess I have to continue tutoring you until you "get" it.
In the meantime, I don't buy what you are selling.
Sorry, it fails miserably!

Why do you post paragraphs saying nothing? You can sum up your idiotic posts in less than 10 words, tbh

[xmas1997]

Why do you post paragraphs saying nothing? You can sum up your idiotic posts in less than 10 words, tbh


I've been told this before, it's a valid statement. How's that for being concise? :lol

[2pac > Kobe]

Excellent post. I am starting to get where some of you are coming from now.
I may have to change my opinion.
dumb fuck

[xmas1997]

dumb fuck

How so?
Because you say so?
Who are you?
And that doesn't show your intelligence?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you had left out your last sentence with the insult, I would have comprehended your opinion and kept an open mind.
But you had to be insulting and that negated your whole point.
Try again sometime when you have learned how to discuss an issue.
I guess I have to continue tutoring you until you "get" it.
In the meantime, I don't buy what you are selling.
Sorry, it fails miserably!

So now you are all knowing? You are ignorant to the genre thus you asking questions about it. You read it and now you know. You can go for the self righteous schtick all you like but you are ignorant to the genre that is an accurate and fair statement. The truth is still the truth no matter how repugnant.

You fail miserably by your hubris.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

All of that is rhythm and harmony. False. Yes, it's rhythm but there's no harmony there. DJ's really don't care about staying in key. Plus, the harmony isn't really played by the DJ but the people he's sampling.


if that is not music then neither is something like the trumpet which is entirely single notes in a set range much less something like the tympani or even less the bass drum.That's pretty much nonsense. A trumpet and tympani are pitched instruments so they can make music. Just because it plays single notes doesn't make it not musical. Tympanis are normally played in a set of three so that like saying Middle C isn't musical on a full size grand piano. Idiotic, really. So, I guess you think that the only "music" that happens in a symphony are all the instruments outside of the string section???? Same thing for a regular band. Half the group is playing "music" and the rest are just wanking? Pfffff. Give me a break. A bass drum is percussive so that is the only thing that's right about your statement, so I'll give you that.


you're just ignorant
quite

[xmas1997]

False. Yes, it's rhythm but there's no harmony there. DJ's really don't care about staying in key. Plus, the harmony isn't really played by the DJ but the people he's sampling.

That's pretty much nonsense. A trumpet and tympani are pitched instruments so they can make music. Just because it plays single notes doesn't make it not musical. Tympanis are normally played in a set of three so that like saying Middle C isn't musical on a full size grand piano. Idiotic, really. So, I guess you think that the only "music" that happens in a symphony are all the instruments outside of the string section???? Same thing for a regular band. Half the group is playing "music" and the rest are just wanking? Pfffff. Give me a break. A bass drum is percussive so that is the only thing that's right about your statement, so I'll give you that.


quite

This is just one of the reasons why I don't reply to his posts with any kind of seriousness.
In fact I pay very little attention to his agendas either.
Why waste time and effort?
I just humor him. He needs humor more than anything. :lol

[DJR210]

Why do you post paragraphs saying nothing? You can sum up your idiotic posts in less than 10 words, tbh

Truth.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

False. Yes, it's rhythm but there's no harmony there. DJ's really don't care about staying in key. Plus, the harmony isn't really played by the DJ but the people he's sampling.

That's pretty much nonsense. A trumpet and tympani are pitched instruments so they can make music. Just because it plays single notes doesn't make it not musical. Tympanis are normally played in a set of three so that like saying Middle C isn't musical on a full size grand piano. Idiotic, really. So, I guess you think that the only "music" that happens in a symphony are all the instruments outside of the string section???? Same thing for a regular band. Half the group is playing "music" and the rest are just wanking? Pfffff. Give me a break. A bass drum is percussive so that is the only thing that's right about your statement, so I'll give you that.


quite

By adjusting the speed at which something is played, you adjust the pitch. You dismiss that by saying that DJs do not care about pitch but that is completely unjustified. Have you ever tried to match beats? I have and I do care about tonality. Sure there is some hip hop is discordant but not all of it is. Your blanket dismissal as with most of your takes is weak.

You ignored the point I was making about scratching.

I never said that everything outside of strings was not music. I want you to read what I wrote again. Note that I used the conditional 'if.' Think about it and try to use basic reading skills. I am not going to respond to your contention about bands and symphonies as such. Of course those are musical instruments.

With a turntable you can take the key of the song and by adjusting the speed, take it through several octaves. The range of tone you can get out it is continuous. Saying 'DJs don't care' does not change those facts. You generalize that artists without cause. Quite frankly the blanket baseless dismissal is about as shitty an argument as one can make.

A trumpet is a few octaves of single notes. A tympani is three tones. Two turntables and a microphone can make a hugely diverse amount of melodies. All of the are musical instruments.

Nice to see your still a butthurt, proud member of the fan club.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is just one of the reasons why I don't reply to his posts with any kind of seriousness.
In fact I pay very little attention to his agendas either.
Why waste time and effort?
I just humor him. He needs humor more than anything. :lol

What agendas do I have?

I don't find you funny. I think you are a douchebag. Reading the posts on this page alone should show you that I am not the only one that feels that way. That does not hold true for everyone. I find many things funny. There is a time and a place for all things.

At least this time you didn't insult me and then say that is all I do. Now that is hilarious when you do that.

[xmas1997]

What agendas do I have?

I don't find you funny. I think you are a douchebag. Reading the posts on this page alone should show you that I am not the only one that feels that way. That does not hold true for everyone. I find many things funny. There is a time and a place for all things.

At least this time you didn't insult me and then say that is all I do. Now that is hilarious when you do that.


Ironic that you say that when I don't need to insult you simply because you do a perfectly fine job of doing that to yourself, better than I could ever do.
The irony is that you are oblivious of it.
Fine by me. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Excellent post. I am starting to get where some of you are coming from now.
I may have to change my opinion.
Check out the Roots while you're at it - they use live instrumentation when performing live, tbh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9dpaTiNPW8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NLuzq7e3vY

[xmas1997]

Check out the Roots while you're at it - they use live instrumentation when performing live, tbh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9dpaTiNPW8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NLuzq7e3vY

Thanks CN, I will.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ironic that you say that when I don't need to insult you simply because you do a perfectly fine job of doing that to yourself, better than I could ever do.
The irony is that you are oblivious of it.
Fine by me. :lol

Oh so this is like your pursuit of truth. A bunch of bullshit analogies and allusions that you cannot barely articulate.

Remember when resistanze said that you write a lot of words that say nothing? That is what people take your act as. It is very apt as evidenced by your attempt here.

I get that I come across as an adversarial jerk. I am fine with that. I infinitely prefer that to being seen as saying much and meaning nothing at all.

[resistanze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvevupLi6hk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Fy5w2klbg

[resistanze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeTnog5RRQo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01yUzXQctcM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtc9f2WBcKg


Yeah late 90s/early 2000s was pretty dope.

[AchillesHeel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeTnog5RRQo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01yUzXQctcM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtc9f2WBcKg


Yeah late 90s/early 2000s was pretty dope.

This nigga knows what's good

So much on my mind that I can't recline
Blastin holes in the night til she bled sunshine
Breathe in, inhale vapors from bright stars that shine
Breathe out, weed smoke retrace the skyline
Heard the bass ride out like an ancient mating call
I can't take it y'all, I can feel the city breathin
Chest heavin, against the flesh of the evening
Sigh before we die like the last train leaving

[Two10Whitey]

Will Smith was a lyrical genius back in the 90's.

[AchillesHeel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0nh_j6ptaE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi6TnG2SpvM

this shit still cracks me up :lmao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjED06olvIU

[Two10Whitey]

Now this is the story all about how
My life got flipped, turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-air


In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground where I spent most of my days
Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool
And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys, they were up to no good
Started making trouble in my neighbourhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
And said "You're moving with your auntie and uncle in Bel-air"


I whistled for a cab and when it came near the
License plate said "fresh" and had a dice in the mirror
If anything I could say that this cab was rare
But I thought nah, forget it, yo homes to Bel-air!


I pulled up to a house about seven or eight
And I yelled to the cabby "Yo, homes smell you later!"
Looked at my kingdom I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-air

[AchillesHeel]

Now this is the story all about how
My life got flipped, turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-air


In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground where I spent most of my days
Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool
And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys, they were up to no good
Started making trouble in my neighbourhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
And said "You're moving with your auntie and uncle in Bel-air"


I whistled for a cab and when it came near the
License plate said "fresh" and had a dice in the mirror
If anything I could say that this cab was rare
But I thought nah, forget it, yo homes to Bel-air!


I pulled up to a house about seven or eight
And I yelled to the cabby "Yo, homes smell you later!"
Looked at my kingdom I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-air


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvg6gs3vkFY

[Two10Whitey]

Lmao Eminem was dope back in the day. Used to clown on Willie bad. Shoot he used to clown on everyone.

[rascal]

1960s was the best.

Lightnin Strikes- Lou Christie
See You In September - Happenings

Better than any rap put up in here.

[resistanze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFF3EaclEEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM_lFtEFidA

[DJR210]

1960s was the best.

Lightnin Strikes- Lou Christie
See You In September - Happenings

Better than any rap put up in here.

gtfo avante

[rascal]

gtfo avante
I am not Avante

[rascal]

1960s/early 70s northern and sweet soul is the best.

[DJR210]

I am not Avante

Might as well be.

[HarlemHeat37]

1960s/early 70s northern and sweet soul is the best.

Hey man, has your life improved this year?..I remember you made a thread about being a loser in real life last year, tbh, just wondering how everything is going these days..

[resistanze]

I thought getting a college degree in engineering would help me land a good paying job, it never did. I am working a low paying job similar to what I worked before I got the degree. UTSA in San Antonio does not have a good engineering program at least when I went to school there. I came out ill prepared to do well in the field.

[DeadlyDynasty]

rascal is Jacob 25 years from now

[lebomb]

I thought getting a college degree in engineering would help me land a good paying job, it never did. I am working a low paying job similar to what I worked before I got the degree. UTSA in San Antonio does not have a good engineering program at least when I went to school there. I came out ill prepared to do well in the field.


Must have chosen the wrong engineering field then. I work among a group of about 60 engineers.......many from Baylor and Utsa. Believe me when I say they get paid very well. :greedy

[resistanze]

rascal is Jacob 25 years from now

:lol I literally was going to post this.

[resistanze]

Must have chosen the wrong engineering field then. I work among a group of about 60 engineers.......many from Baylor and Utsa. Believe me when I say they get paid very well. :greedy

why don't ya hook up rascal, give him a fresh start :lol

[xmas1997]

1960s/early 70s northern and sweet soul is the best.


Damn good stuff, even now. The best stuff stands the test of time.

[rascal]

Damn good stuff, even now. The best stuff stands the test of time.

Artistics- Girl I Need You
from 1967 playing on my station right now.

[rascal]

Hey man, has your life improved this year?..I remember you made a thread about being a loser in real life last year, tbh, just wondering how everything is going these days..

Same place just another year older.

[TE]

6BCsxQg3NE4

[AchillesHeel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c515ix-9bnY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB9TPWPVkqI