2013-2014 Contenders or Pretenders?

[LkrFan]

The Pacers are the biggest threat to Miami. They have the NBA's top scorer in Paul George (28.0 ppg), top swatter in Mount Hibbert (6bpg), they are 3rd in points allowed (only 88.5ppg), 5th in point differential (+7.5), and 4th in opponents FG% (only 39.3%). Of course, they're also 3-0. They are playing with an air of invincibility and a swagger I haven't seen from them in a minute.

Paul George seems like he's taking the next step. Their X-Factor: Lance Stephenson. He is by far the biggest surprise for me. This dude is giving them 17.5ppg, 7.5rpg, 4.5apg, 22.15 PER, and shooting a blistering 62.5%. We know what D West brings to the table, but they also added Scola to back him up. I like how George Hill has been playing.

Verdict: they're contenders. Miami, beware of Pacers. Can't wait to see them lock horns in the playoffs again tbh.

http://www.bballbreakdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/pacers-heat-playoff-odds.jpg

[HarlemHeat37]

They look like the 2nd best team in the NBA, tbh, but they are still weak at the guard position, which can be exploited easily by top defensive teams..

They should start Watson and have Hill come off the bench, though..

[Sean Cagney]

Pacers are legit..... They are Miamis biggest problem.

[TDMVPDPOY]

stephenson, are they still leaving him open to shoot do whatever he wants like the last 2 seasons where most of his points come from....

[apalisoc_9]

They look pretty legit to me.

But honestly any team who gives Stephenson the green light is suspect IMO.

[LkrFan]

They look pretty legit to me.

But honestly any team who gives Stephenson the green light is suspect IMO.:lol - indeed. But they need a 2nd scorer and he's fitting the bill quite nicely. Truth be told, if Wade don't get 100% healthy by playoff time, I'd take my chances with Lance in their matchup if I'm a Pacer fan. Dude is in beast mode right now.

[HarlemHeat37]

They don't need another scorer, they have George/Hibbert/West, tbh..

They need a ballhandler at the guard position to aid them in getting into their offensive sets, rather than stalling and killing time on the shot clock, tbh..George Hill can barely dribble a ball, and Stephenson isn't a PG, obviously..

[TDMVPDPOY]

is granger still out injured or his playing atm?

[Michael Jordan.]

Pretenders. And they are severely overrated.

[Rogue]

If they convert Granger into something that can actually help this team (like a decent playmaker or something similar) then they'll be a serious contender. They took Miami to 7 games in the ECF last season and they've further strengthened their squad the past summer, while the Heat remained pretty much the same except getting one year older.

[TDMVPDPOY]

hows scola so far this season? has he helped?

granger should focus on defense, but i think his contract is nearly up...i doubt he accept a lower role when his looking for his next big and last contract

[DMC]

Pacers are legit contenders. To say otherwise is senseless speculation. They took the champs to the brink, so if that's not contending then the word doesn't really exist.

[Mugen]

Pacers with the LkrFan kiss of death tbh. RIP niggaz.

[SpurSwag]

I'm going to lean more towards pretenders for now just because I still don't think Hibbert is that much of a threat offensively against the bigger teams, and a Hill-Stephenson back court is extremely suspect and inconsistent. They definitely have the potential to win a championship as constructed though, but I think it would be due more to favorable matchups than any thing else. However, I think they become a serious contender, maybe even the front runner behind Miami (who should be considered the favorite just for beign b2b champs) if they can turn Granger into a guard who can flat out score and shoot the ball.

[Rogue]

Pacers are legit contenders. To say otherwise is senseless speculation. They took the champs to the brink, so if that's not contending then the word doesn't really exist.
they heat just always have a hard time dealing with certain type of teams like the Magic of DH's epoch, and the Pacers, and almost any team with a quality big standing in the middle. even the 37yr old TOSB caused them tons of troubles in the finals imho. the pacers were just a horrible matchup for the heat yet they still came through it regardless

[DMC]

they heat just always have a hard time dealing with certain type of teams like the Magic of DH's epoch, and the Pacers, and almost any team with a quality big standing in the middle. even the 37yr old TOSB caused them tons of troubles in the finals imho. the pacers were just a horrible matchup for the heat yet they still came through it regardless

Yes, but they beat every team on their way to the ECF and gave the champs a run for their money. That's contending.

[DAF86]

Is this the team Kobefans will bandwagon this year?

[Findog]

Brooklyn, Chicago and Indiana are all plausible possibilities to beat Miami in a seven-game series. Not saying they will, but they have a chance.

[Venti Quattro]

Danny Granger will beat Indiana in the playoffs.

[Killakobe81]

They don't need another scorer, they have George/Hibbert/West, tbh..

They need a ballhandler at the guard position to aid them in getting into their offensive sets, rather than stalling and killing time on the shot clock, tbh..George Hill can barely dribble a ball, and Stephenson isn't a PG, obviously..

Agree. Though Hill can be a pg in a triangle type system ...

[scanry]

How about the Spurs?

Contenders:
Regular Season on cruise control and the Spurs make it back to the NBA Finals.

Pretenders:
Mediocre regular season and are knocked out in the second round.

So which will it be?

[Rogue]

Don't think the Bulls have enough low-post strength to cause the Heat any troubles. Boozer is a scrub now, Noah is good but he has little to contribute at the offensive end.

And Greg Oden may probably turn out to be a secret weapon for heat to cope with such teams like Pacers that they used to have trouble dealing with, if he can live up to even half of his potential, defensively at least. Birdman is a solid defender and rebounder but he's thin like a leather. Every team needs one or two fatass bigs imho

[LkrFan]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/1105/nba_pgeorgets_576.jpg


Led by Paul George (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4251/paul-george) and their trademark stingy defense, the Indiana Pacers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/ind/indiana-pacers) held off a late Detroit Pistons (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/det/detroit-pistons) rally to remain the NBA's lone unbeaten team.

George scored a game-high 31 points with 10 rebounds, becoming the first Pacers player with a 30-point, 10-rebound game since David West (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2177/david-west) did it at the beginning of last season.

It was George's second 30-point effort of the season, after scoring 32 in the Pacers second game against the New Orleans Pelicans (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/no/new-orleans-pelicans). He's already one 30-point game away from matching his number of such games last season just four games into the 2013-14 campaign.

One reason for his scoring boost has been greater efficiency from 3-point range.

So far, he's connected on 14 of his 31 attempts -- a 45 percent clip. He's attempting almost eight 3-pointers per game so far, almost two full attempts more than he averaged a season ago.

While George has the led the way for Indiana offensively, the team's defense has picked up right where it left off a season ago.



LINK (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/63805/george-defense-key-indys-unbeaten-start)

Still going strong. They just need to gel with their new players and stay healthy tbh.

[AchillesHeel]

Pacers will be a force for years. Paul George is really developing into a superstar.

[Robz4000]

Contender, but getting a true PG would make them favorites imo.

[AussieFanKurt]

Can they pick up a real PG

[romsey31]

Can they pick up a real PG

We already have the real pg. Paul george! In our system hill fits perfectly. We have a ball dominant player in pg that needa the ball in his hand. Hill is a great catch and shoot player that compliments pg. If you look throughout the league any team with a ball dominant wing player has more of a spot up shooting type player at the 1 position

[Rogue]

if they convert Granger into something worth even half his 13m salary they would be really scary tbh. Even as the team they're now, they're already the #2 in the east and a safe top 3 of the league.

[Captivus]

Contenders,no doubt.
Otherwise, if I not include them in the contenders list, then there are NO contenders.
Last year they we also very good.

[Leetonidas]

Posting inflated stats 4 games into the season doesn't paint an accurate picture bro. Let's see 20 or so games played before we starting throwing player averages out there

[Leetonidas]

tbh though they would be a much better team with even a decent PG like Sessions who can actually dribble and set up the offense

[romsey31]

tbh though they would be a much better team with even a decent PG like Sessions who can actually dribble and set up the offense

And then what would happen on the defensive end of the floor?

[spurraider21]

If Vogel didn't pull Hibbert out twice in game 1 (sound familiar? :lol), the Pacers might have already dethroned the Heat last year tbh. If the Spurs didn't collapse (manu shit game 6 + missed free throw, Kawhi missed free throw, Pop yanking Duncan twice... didn't he learn from Vogel's blunder?) the Heat would have been questioned and they wouldn't be favorites right now.

Miami is FAR from unbeatable. they are a great team, and as defending champs and with the best player in the world, should be considered favorites. but they have plenty reason to be concerned. Indiana was good enough last year, and they're better this year.

[Rogue]

I never tried hyping up the Bulls as a contender, shitty supporting cast (except Noah though, who's half decent) surrounding a gangbanger who'll never be as good as he once was.

[LkrFan]

Pacers with the LkrFan kiss of death tbh. RIP niggaz.

The Heat are going to win it all this year. There is no doubt in my mind. It's a stone cold lock tbh. ;)

[LkrFan]

Is this the team Laker Fans will bandwagon this year?
Yes. :toast

Signed,
PcrFan

:downspin:

[ezau]

Look at how Laker fans have to bandwagon Miami and Indiana these days. :lol

[BatManu20]

I think it's an Indy-Heat ECF again, and it goes 7 again, with Miami emerging as the victors. I just don't see Indy beating the Heat.

[LkrFan]

Look at how Laker fans have to bandwagon Miami and Indiana these days. :lol

:nope - that's just 6 talking.

[ezau]

:nope - that's just 6 talking.

Swept talking

[DAF86]

Indiana is the 2nd best team in the NBA regardless IMO, but they really should move Granger for a PG..he's injury prone and there's a strong chance he won't be able to contribute consistently, it wouldn't hurt to have a good role playing PG to help run the offense..in last year's playoffs, George Hill struggled just to bring the ball up and run the offense, tbh..

George is a good passer, but he's not Lebron, he's not going to consistently run the offense, he needs help IMO..

I'd make a move for Jameer Nelson, tbh, although I haven't looked at his contract..

If the Grizzlies keep losing Pacers should try to make a move for Conley, he would fit like a glove. Granger's expiring plus draft picks and maybe cash could make for an interesting offer.

[tlongII]

Contenders. The Pacers will be a handful for Miami.

[Chomag]

Contenders, I felt they have grown so much in the last 2 years

[Suspect]

Thunder vs Pacer/Nets finals tbh

[The Gemini Method]

Go Pacers! Best team in the NBA! Been a fan since they ruled the ABA! First 5-0 start since the last title year! Just have to switch the purp with the blue and we're set!

[CitizenDwayne]

They're a damn good team, but I still don't buy them beating a Heat team at full strength.

[Raven]

Miami can't stay on that throne forever tbh

[Mikeanaro]

I Think they are contenders. Paul George said Bulls are still living on the Jordan era pretending they are some kind of basketball royalty, I think he is right

[The Gemini Method]

-Pacer fan since 2012.

[LkrFan]

6-0. Just held another team under 40% shooting. Not liking their 15 TOs. Bird needs to go get a Kyle Lowry type player after the ASG - when teams are having fire sales - as they position themselves for next year's lotto.

They need to be more reliable offensively. Until then, they'll continue to rely on their Doberman defense led by Mt Hibbert. They are a work in progress.

[LkrFan]

8-0. Unexpected triple dub from my man Lance Stephenson: 13 pts, 12 asts, 11 rebs. Pacers are making their gym a house of horrors sporting a perfect 5-0 record. Their staple - defense and rebounding - did not disappoint as they held 8 to 79 points while outrebounding them 45-32 and locking them down to 41.3% shooting.

Their budding star, PG, efficiently dropped 23 pts and 7 rebs on 9/16 FGAs. Mt Hibbert chipped in with 5 swats - although his offense was offensively shitty. Next victim: Milwaukee Bucks. Will they stay undefeated? Stay tuned. :)
Still contending... :toast

[TDMVPDPOY]

this pacers team reminds me of the spurs last season
solid frontline and backups
solid perimeter and backups
the bench can easily replace 1 or 2 starting players if needed...

spurs once had that luxury 2 seasons, last year with jax wouldve made a difference in the finals....we went from a solid perimeter rotation of green kawhi and jax and ginoboli of the bench that will keep the bench defense honest, to not having jax and relying on scrubs to replace his defensive presence aka neal

[LkrFan]

Pretenders. And they are severely overrated.
-1:lol for this take son. Apologize.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i guess it all depends on grangers role when he comes back

is he going to take not only a backseat to PG, but also stephenson when his playing with the bench?

[LkrFan]

i guess it all depends on grangers role when he comes back

is he going to take not only a backseat to PG, but also stephenson when his playing with the bench?
The writing is on the wall: it's PG's team now. I think he understands that. I'd like to see him back up PG if he can come back healthy. He should be good for about 15 mpg. They'll need Granger's experience to get past Miami just year. They got a legit shot tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

The writing is on the wall: it's PG's team now. I think he understands that. I'd like to see him back up PG if he can come back healthy. He should be good for about 15 mpg. They'll need Granger's experience to get past Miami just year. They got a legit shot tbh.

another winger who would accept his role as a defender out there

something the spurs fcked up when they got rid of jax, could give 2 shits what he wanted from pop offensively a bigger role, but jax never in his career went hero mode that cost the game/series, another legit backup defender the spurs couldve used in the finals...

playing the heat u need a legit backup defender on the bench to come in and keep the heats lebron/wade honest if they are logging +40mpg

[Rogue]

Pacers thrashed the spurs last night at at&t center

Blazers beat the Pacers the other night in Portland, the same place where our beloved boys in blue beat the Blazers last night. so Mavs > Blazers > Pacers > Spurs, imho.

[LkrFan]

23-5... Still contending. Now they're reincorporating D Granger into the mix. Scola, Granger, Mahinmi and CJ Watson should be a formidable bench as the season wears on. I approve. :tu

[Clipper Nation]

23-5... Still contending. Now they're reincorporating D Granger into the mix. Scola, Granger, Mahinmi and CJ Watson should be a formidable bench as the season wears on. I approve. :tu

Tú eres el bandwagoner peor! :lol

[Reck]

Tú eres el bandwagoner peor! :lol

I'm forgetting what the Spanish call that word, there is one. lol

[LkrFan]

Tú eres el bandwagoner peor! :lol
G:lol Pacers!

[Clipper Nation]

I'm forgetting what the Spanish call that word, there is one. lol
I believe they refer to it as the "LkrFan" :lol

[LkrFan]

I believe they refer to it as the "LkrFan" :lol
:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

G:lol Pacers!

Enjoy them while they last, s:loln.... IIRC, PG, Blake, and CP3's contracts all expire at the same time, and George was a Clipperfan growing up :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Enjoy them while they last, s:loln.... IIRC, PG, Blake, and CP3's contracts all expire at the same time, and George was a Kobefan growing up :downspin:
FIFY. His number is visual proof. :tu

[Clipper Nation]

FIFY. His number is visual proof. :tu


With teams such as the Los Angeles Clippers (his favorite team growing up), Utah Jazz, Memphis Grizzlies and Milwaukee Bucks all looking for a dynamic swingman who can create, shoot and defend, the chance of George being picked in the 8-15 range looks very good at the moment.


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Paul-George-5688
:downspin: dat shit!

[HarlemHeat37]

Indiana is a great team, but unfortunately for them, they play in the Lebron era, tbh..

[Thread]

Indiana is a great team, but unfortunately for them, they play in the Lebron era, tbh..

"LeBron era," my ass. You had him beat. You had him beat and Media had already set up that poor fuck Bosh to be the fall guy. You not only blew your 5th, but, you saved Bosh from being lynched. Even after it was over Media still chewed the bark off his ass for a few days out of complete shock. tee, hee.

[LkrFan]

:downspin: dat shit!

Maybe he grew up poor, and couldn't afford Laker tix? :downspin:

[Clipper Nation]

Maybe he Grew up poor, and couldn't afford Laker tix? :downspin:

Sorry, s:loln, but not everybody led the illegal immigrant lifestyle that you did growing up :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Sorry, s:loln, but not everybody led the illegal immigrant lifestyle that you did growing up :downspin:
:rollin :lmao :rollin

[LkrFan]

Indiana is a great team, but unfortunately for them, they play in the Lebron era, tbh..
-5,000 points son. You don't get an era when you collude with other stars. :nope

[LkrFan]

Bumping this thread for the homies. Discuss sons. :toast

[Clipper Nation]

Bumping this thread for the homies. Discuss sons. :toast
Get your taxpayer-subsidized ass off the Pacers' bandwagon and root for your actual team, s:loln :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Get your taxpayer-subsidized ass off the Pacers' bandwagon and root for your actual team, s:loln :downspin:
I pay taxes too dadnabbit! :lol

[DMC]

It's not clairvoyance to say that the Pacers are contenders when they took the Heat to 7 games in the ECF last season and added Scola in the offseason. I don't get the point of this thread. How can a team that pushes the defending champs to the edge be anything but contenders?

[DMC]

Lkrfan trying to cherry pick predictions:


this game could kick start the Knicks as well.

This is me calling the Knicks run in the 1st game of the resurgence. Yeah I know I know, must be a gift.

[LkrFan]

It's not clairvoyance to say that the Pacers are contenders when they took the Heat to 7 games in the ECF last season and added Scola in the offseason. I don't get the point of this thread. How can a team that pushes the defending champs to the edge be anything but contenders?
They did that shit last year. It's a new year, hence, I'd like to know if other posters think they are contenders...or not.

With your logic, the 2012 Mavs were contenders too. -10 points s:loln

[DMC]

They did that shit last year. It's a new year, hence, I'd like to know if other posters think they are contenders...or not.

With your logic, the 2012 Mavs were contenders too. -10 points s:loln

Well no, I didn't say at the time you make the thread that it's obvious, however the Pacers didn't blow up the team.

[Venti Quattro]

At 33-7, do they still look like pretenders? This is not a sarcastic question. Just want to know what's the SpursTalk consensus.

[lefty]

They are contenders TBH


As long as they don't turn the ball over too much


Miami's fastbreak is deadly

[HI-FI]

definitely contenders. I think they take the East fwiw.

[KaiRMD1]

The one thing these ol' sports were missing was consistency in their shooting. They seem to have taken care of that so these ol' sports are definitely contenders

[TDMVPDPOY]

At 33-7, do they still look like pretenders? This is not a sarcastic question. Just want to know what's the SpursTalk consensus.

remember the nash suns, they had good records and we all know they were pretenders

[timtonymanu]

Definitely a contender. If the Spurs get to the Finals and Indiana is there, I would still be terrified.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Definitely a contender. If the Spurs get to the Finals and Indiana is there, I would still be terrified.

if both teams meet, i think pacers would come out winning the whole thing, ghill will make enrique why his no hero

[Ghazi]

The Pacers are on a historic pace right now. 33-7 with a +9.9 point differential, very impressive stuff. Mostly due to their dominant defense, as their offense is right around league average.

I don't like their offense that much, really not much playmaking and shooting, looks like it stagnates at times, but their defense saves so many points over the game that it doesn't even matter. 2nd half of GS game was a good example of what I'm talking about, as the Pacers seemed to just grind out a 2nd half win despite a lot of bad offensive possessions.

[Rogue]

The pacers are just like the Spurs of 10yrs ago, to some extent. They ain't having another superstar outside of Paul George yet they're still kicking asses, just like the Dortmund side which won two Bundesliga championships in a row a couple of years ago. And the playoffs always favor the style of game they're playing (based on defense, see how it worked out for Memphis last season), and the Pacers haven't got such douchebag fans like TlongII and Thunderup

[Brazil]

Clear contender so far and clearly better than last year with the addition of Scola and the improvements of Hib and PG. Second unit could see a lot of improvements if Granger could get back close to a high level

[Thread]

Is Bird officially involved/employed by the Pacers?

[Double-Up]

Is Bird officially involved/employed by the Pacers?

Does your mother's pubic bush still smell like unfrozen week old shrimp? :lol

[Thread]

Does your mother's pubic bush still smell like unfrozen week old shrimp? :lol

I'm the man who became a legend in his own time.

[DMC]

if both teams meet, i think pacers would come out winning the whole thing, ghill will make enrique why his no hero

I'm still trying to decide which language you're trying to speak.

[Katherine Robinson]

They are the only team in the NBA who can challenge the Heat this year. OKC is a bad match, Blazers are too guest, Spurs are too old.

[RD2191]

They are the only team in the NBA who can challenge the Heat this year. OKC is a bad match, Blazers are too guest, Spurs are too old.
As much as I despise the Heat I don't see Indiana as a legitimate threat to them out East. I actually have the Heat winning in 6 if they meet up in the ECF. Pacers have a good defense but its a bit inflated due to playing in a shit conference.

[LkrFan]

I'm still trying to decide which language you're trying to speak.
:lol

[LkrFan]

As much as I despise the Heat I don't see Indiana as a legitimate threat to them out East. I actually have the Heat winning in 6 if they meet up in the ECF. Pacers have a good defense but its a bit inflated due to playing in a shit conference.
But they're putting steel toed boots to WC team asses too. Just ask Clipper Nati:loln. -10 points son.

[RD2191]

But tey're putting steel toe boots to WC team asses too. Just ask Clipper Nati:loln. -10 points son.
Do they play western teams as often?

[LkrFan]

Do they play western teams as often?
You be the judge, dumbass (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/ind/indiana-pacers). :lol

[RD2191]

You be the judge, dumbass (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/ind/indiana-pacers). :lol
?? So I am right, dumbass.

[Rogue]

If we somehow make a trade with NY to get TC back we'll also be able to challenge Miami as well imho. By far we're still the only team who've won a playoff series over the Superfriends tbh.

[ElNono]

Pretenders, tbh

[lefty]

yeah a bump on the road and they get written off :lol

As I said : turnovers are key for this team; if they keep them down , they can beat anyone in the playoffs/finals

If not, Miami or OKC will kill them on fast breaks

[ElNono]

despite tonight's game, they're a shredder, tbh... but you always wonder if they can survive Miami

[Katherine Robinson]

Their only worry is the Heat, there will be a few bumps on the way to ECF.

[Venti Quattro]

Wow the Rayjays are dismantling the Pacers...

[Clipper Nation]

:downspin: esta mierda, PcrFan!

[RD2191]

Nothing to see here, just the West exposing the garbage East. Pacers should of also lost last night.

[RD2191]

As much as I despise the Heat I don't see Indiana as a legitimate threat to them out East. I actually have the Heat winning in 6 if they meet up in the ECF. Pacers have a good defense but its a bit inflated due to playing in a shit conference.
:wakeup

[ElNono]

Pretenders, tbh

[thunderup]

They struggle with athletic teams. Not a surprise.

[thunderup]

yeah a bump on the road and they get written off :lol

As I said : turnovers are key for this team; if they keep them down , they can beat anyone in the playoffs/finals

If not, Miami or OKC will kill them on fast breaks
:lol props, that's your best basketball take ever
:lol the starving Algerian who snuck into Canada is showing some basketball intellect

[Venti Quattro]

:lol the starving Nigerian who snuck into Canada is showing some basketball intellect
lefty is Algerian

[Clipper Nation]

lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) is Algerian
:lmao Methhead not knowing the difference between Algeria and Nigeria
:lmao MethKC education

[thunderup]

lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) is Algerian


:lol the starving Algerian who snuck into Canada is showing some basketball intellect
Fixed.

[RD2191]

denver with the choke:lol

[scanry]

If the pacers come out of the West, OKC will sweep them. Heck even Denver, Phx & Portland are a matchup nightmare.

There's a reason why the Mavs always matchuped well against the Spurs during the championship years.

[Reck]

This loss means little. every good team gets dismantled from time to time.

[Venti Quattro]

This loss means little. every good team gets dismantled from time to time.

Well yeah and they're not exactly being dismantled now. 7 point deficit with 8 mins to go. They've made a game out of it...

[HI-FI]

East is a coin toss though. I just can't see Wade making it through grueling playoffs again. at some point his knee will crack open like in The Fly (1986) and all kinds of green HGH shit will come spewing out. It will top the Kevin Ware injury imho. Therefore I think Indiana can pull this off.

[Reck]

Well yeah and they're not exactly being dismantled now. 7 point deficit with 8 mins to go. They've made a game out of it...

Oh. I am not watching the game. I just went by the recent comments that they were getting picked apart.

Talk about premature ejaculation. lol

[Venti Quattro]

Game...

IND 34-9
OKC 35-10
SAS 33-10

[LkrFan]

:downspin: esta mierda, PcrFan!
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Pacers with the LkrFan kiss of death tbh. RIP niggaz.
:lol this

[djohn2oo8]

-1:lol for this take son. Apologize.
Wrong again, Esteban.

[djohn2oo8]

East is a coin toss though. I just can't see Wade making it through grueling playoffs again. at some point his knee will crack open like in The Fly (1986) and all kinds of green HGH shit will come spewing out. It will top the Kevin Ware injury imho. Therefore I think Indiana can pull this off.
That movie was fucking grotesque.

[LkrFan]

Wrong again, Esteban.
:lol

[Venti Quattro]

To the Cavs? :lol

[313]

Christ! :lol

[Clipper Nation]

LkrFan is the Avante of the NBA Forum :lol

[spurraider21]

the pacers will be there against miami when its all said and done, and they're a matchup issue for them as we've seen time and time again...

roster talent =/= matchup issue

[Clipper Nation]

the pacers will be there against miami when its all said and done
Says who? They could easily choke to Chicago in a series and not even face Miami :lol

[Thread]

LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824) is the Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) of the NBA Forum :lol

God bless them both. Two fine laddies.

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao LkrFan

[ElNono]

Pretenders, tbh

Nonostradamus :hat

[Venti Quattro]

remember the nash suns, they had good records and we all know they were pretenders
Fkn kent wanker TDMVPDPOY dropping shit bombs

[Killakobe81]

Pacers will be a force for years. Paul George is really developing into a superstar.

Man how quick you turned ...

[LkrFan]

:lmao LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824)

:lmao :cry :lmao

[HI-FI]

LkrFan is the undisputed GOAT at making threads that will get bumped many times later.

[ElNono]

Peeps committing mass suicide at PacersDigest :lol

http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?94688-Pacers-Spurs-Post-Game-Thread

[LkrFan]

LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824) is the undisputed GOAT at making threads that will get bumped many times later.
:lol

[Clipper Nation]

LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824) is the undisputed GOAT at making threads that will get bumped many times later.

If he has a take, there's a 99.9% chance he ends up being wrong :lol

Speaking of that, LkrFan, thanks for starting that "Clippers = Pretenders" thread in October, that could come in handy later :downspin:

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Looks like Dale posts in there now::


That hurts a lot. This March has been hell. Roy was crying on the bench and I think that I'm close to that point as well http://www.pacersdigest.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

I'll watch some anime to make myself feel better.

[Hoops Czar]

Paul George has got to be the most overrated player in the NBA. He was totally manhandled by Leonard.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Pacers' Roy Hibbert after recent loss: 'Some selfish dudes in here'
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24508932/pacers-roy-hibbert-after-recent-loss-some-selfish-dudes-in-here

The Bynum curse is real..

[Killakobe81]

Wow implosion city Bird should step in tbh

[ElNono]

shit, Roy going IN

[LkrFan]

If he has a take, there's a 99.9% chance he ends up being wrong :lol

Speaking of that, LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824), thanks for starting that "Clippers = Pretenders" thread in October, that could come in handy later :downspin:N:lol problem.

[TDMVPDPOY]

PG season went downhill after gettin paid and making some ho preggers....

he has thrown in t he white towel and called it a season

[HI-FI]

PG season went downhill after gettin paid and making some ho preggers....

he has thrown in t he white towel and called it a season
blowing a load in a bitch and sending pics to a gay dude have caused him to go downhill. plus letting Granger go might have disrupted chemistry. Just need them to at least wear down the Heat though.

[Michael Jordan.]

Pretenders. And they are severely overrated.

MJ the gawddamn prophet.

[TD 21]

I never got sucked into the Pacers. The way they're built doesn't win championships. People had/have this idea that because they're equipped to potentially beat the Heat, that they're automatically contenders. But there was never any good reason to think they'd be able to beat the Thunder or Spurs.

Nothing's changed from the past three seasons: Either the best individual talents are going to win it or the best team (Spurs) is.

[Thread]

I never got sucked into the Pacers. The way they're built doesn't win championships. People had/have this idea that because they're equipped to potentially beat the Heat, that they're automatically contenders. But there was never any good reason to think they'd be able to beat the Thunder or Spurs.

Nothing's changed from the past three seasons: Either the best individual talents are going to win it or the best team (Spurs) is.

It'll be keen watching Media let Bird retire again without nary a peep of reproach.

[Michael Jordan.]

They don't need another scorer, they have George/Hibbert/West, tbh..

They need a ballhandler at the guard position to aid them in getting into their offensive sets, rather than stalling and killing time on the shot clock, tbh..George Hill can barely dribble a ball, and Stephenson isn't a PG, obviously..

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kUXK6azldF0/UE5YveZFI7I/AAAAAAAACy8/xBXs1gccHFA/s1600/crazy-laughter.jpg

[Mugen]

Pacers with the LkrFan kiss of death tbh. RIP niggaz.

:rollin dem indy nigs never stood a chance tbh

[Mugen]

LkrFan, i see you lurking. I need you to analyze the 2014 Spurs and conclude that they're pretenders tbh.

Ese pls :cry

[TD 21]

It'll be keen watching Media let Bird retire again without nary a peep of reproach.

Yeah and he'll deserve some of the blame if they don't at least push the Heat to the limit again. There's no denying that team had strong chemistry, the players supposedly weren't on board with the two moves that were made and he made them anyway.

[Michael Jordan.]

LkrFan, i see you lurking. I need you to analyze the 2014 Spurs and conclude that they're pretenders tbh.

Ese pls :cry

:lmao

[DPG21920]

Lol 5 REB Hibb going in on dudes

[RsxPiimp]

Honestly, no one really saw George would implode like this. A lot we're calling him overrated which was an easy call considering he has a flawed offensive game, but his attitude has been horrific which has been one of the main reasons they're going downhill. That success got to his head way to early. I remember when this guy would humbly do his thing and get back on the other end of the floor to defend. Him and Lance have changed the Pacers blue collar attitude which doesn't sit well with the rest of the Pacers players.

George has been emulating Melo on the offensive end but with worst efficiency :lol Hi jumper is pretty streaky and his ISO game is Gerald Wallace like. :lol


I'm not absolving Hibbert either. Their culture has changed since the trade, call it bad karma or what have you but their chances are not looking good this year. Heck, Brooklyn may beat them in the second round.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I'm not absolving Hibbert either. Their culture has changed since the trade, call it bad karma or what have you but their chances are not looking good this year. Heck, Brooklyn may beat them in the second round.

with or without the trade, didnt make a difference due to granger not gettin many minutes, same shit can be said about turner, they can choose not to play him at all if they wanted...it has got more to do with the starting unit and scola on the bench hasnt be utilized...

[RsxPiimp]

with or without the trade, didnt make a difference due to granger not gettin many minutes, same shit can be said about turner, they can choose not to play him at all if they wanted...it has got more to do with the starting unit and scola on the bench hasnt be utilized...

I think the trade made a difference. Granger had influenced over PG, the respect and camaraderie was there. The moment Granger was shipped, PG started playing recklessly. That trade IMO was a clear cut signal from Indiana's front office that, "You don't have to hold anything back at this point, here's they key to our team, it's all yours" Except it didn't work out as planned since PG is a limited offensive player being exposed at the right time.

[ElNono]

450849035419533313

[LkrFan]

LkrFan, i see you lurking. I need you to analyze the 2014 Spurs and conclude that they're pretenders tbh.

Ese pls :cry
:flag:

[Michael Jordan.]

450849035419533313
:lol and Laker fan wants Stephenson on his team.

[Venti Quattro]

So, LkrFan, could you please boil it down?

[The Batman]

People better hope LkrFan never makes a good prediction about your team, it's like the fucking kiss of death.

[Clipper Nation]

Can't decide what's worse: Avante betting on your team, or LkrFan starting a thread to praise your team :lol

[Venti Quattro]

:lol LkrFan
:lol jinx
:lol kiss of death

[Venti Quattro]

454824752322850816

:lmao :lmao

:downspin: this shit LkrFan

[LkrFan]

454824752322850816

:lmao :lmao

:downspin: this shit LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824)
Oprah ain't singing yet. Bump this shit when they're eliminated from the 'offs. :toast

His rebounds are like TP's assists tbh :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Oprah ain't singing yet. Bump this shit when they're eliminated from the 'offs. :toast

His rebounds are like TP's assists tbh :lol
:lol Jhonatan doubling down on The Jinx!

[midnightpulp]

Has the Lkrfan jinx ever been overcome?

- Predicted the Spurs to beat OKC in 2012: Backfired

- The Ramon Sessions' Show: Backfired

- Prepare your asses: Backfired

- Dwyane Wade, TOSB: Backfired

- Numerous threads predicting Duncan's demise: Backfired

- Marc Gasol, Best big in the game: Backfired

- Crowning the Pacers as contenders: Backfired

And many more.

[Sean Cagney]

Has the Lkrfan jinx ever been overcome?

- Predicted the Spurs to beat OKC in 2012: Backfired

- The Ramon Sessions' Show: Backfired

- Prepare your asses: Backfired

- Dwyane Wade, TOSB: Backfired

- Numerous threads predicting Duncan's demise: Backfired

- Marc Gasol, Best big in the game: Backfired

- Crowning the Pacers as contenders: Backfired

And many more.

Yeah, TBH he sucks at predictions.
Oprah ain't singing yet. Bump this shit when they're eliminated from the 'offs. :toast

His rebounds are like TP's assists tbh :lol

Yes, or the Lakers seasons win total :lol

[Venti Quattro]

Has the Lkrfan jinx ever been overcome?

- Predicted the Spurs to beat OKC in 2012: Backfired

- The Ramon Sessions' Show: Backfired

- Prepare your asses: Backfired

- Dwyane Wade, TOSB: Backfired

- Numerous threads predicting Duncan's demise: Backfired

- Marc Gasol, Best big in the game: Backfired

- Crowning the Pacers as contenders: Backfired

And many more.
lefty is extremely salty about this tbh. Someone has higher jinxing powers than him

[LkrFan]

Has the Lkrfan jinx ever been overcome?

- Predicted the Spurs to beat OKC in 2012: Backfired

- The Ramon Sessions' Show: Backfired

- Prepare your asses: Backfired

- Dwyane Wade, TOSB: Backfired

- Numerous threads predicting Duncan's demise: Backfired

- Marc Gasol, Best big in the game: Backfired

- Crowning the Pacers as contenders: Backfired

And many more.
6 trumps all. Now Tammy looking up to 4 < 5 - and I won't let you forget it. :)

[LkrFan]

Yeah, TBH he sucks at predictions.

Yes, or the Lakers seasons win total :lol
:lol

[Venti Quattro]

6 trumps all. Now Tammy looking up to 4 < 5 - and I won't let you forget it. :)

CROFL I fully expect the Spurs to win #5 now

[LkrFan]

CROFL I fully expect the Spurs to win #5 now
Nope. I got cHeat 3-peating. Count it son.

[ElNono]

Has the Lkrfan jinx ever been overcome?

- Predicted the Spurs to beat OKC in 2012: Backfired

- The Ramon Sessions' Show: Backfired

- Prepare your asses: Backfired

- Dwyane Wade, TOSB: Backfired

- Numerous threads predicting Duncan's demise: Backfired

- Marc Gasol, Best big in the game: Backfired

- Crowning the Pacers as contenders: Backfired

And many more.

He'll prognosticate correctly the next Chivas vs Monterrey game though...

[Venti Quattro]

He'll prognosticate correctly the next Chivas vs Monterrey game though...

Can you imagine lefty and LkrFan on opposite sides in of a rivalry in the Soccer Forum? The game would end 4-4 with 3 players from each side tearing their ACLs.

[midnightpulp]

6 trumps all. Now Tammy looking up to 4 < 5 - and I won't let you forget it. :)

Referencing 6 doesn't make any sense. You didn't predict it.

I think you might've predicted the Spurs to win the Finals, hence the collapse in 6.

[midnightpulp]

Nope. I got cHeat 3-peating. Count it son.

If you're trying to jinx the Heat, it won't work unless you're sincere and actually believe it.

[LkrFan]

Referencing 6 doesn't make any sense. You didn't predict it.

I think you might've predicted the Spurs to win the Finals, hence the collapse in 6.
It makes sense. You usually take a summer vacation from ST. This summer was different. You didn't post until a few months into the regular season. 6 mindfucked you bad.

I may not have predicted 6, but it feels great rubbing BNSF's nose in that permanent shitstain. :)

[HI-FI]

Nope. I got cHeat 3-peating. Count it son.
seriously, thank you.

[LkrFan]

If you're trying to jinx the Heat, it won't work unless you're sincere and actually believe it.
:lol. - I honestly wanted Dungcan to get #5, so maybe you're right. :lmao

[LkrFan]

seriously, thank you.
:lmao - depends on if WB is healthy or not. Remember, y'all don't make the Finals last year if he were healthy.

[ElNono]

Can you imagine lefty and LkrFan on opposite sides in of a rivalry in the Soccer Forum? The game would end 4-4 with 3 players from each side tearing their ACLs.

mind aspolde, tbh

[Sean Cagney]

Nope. I got cHeat 3-peating. Count it son.

You just jinxed that for the Cheat.. Good job.

[Clipper Nation]

lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) is extremely salty about this tbh. Someone has higher jinxing powers than him Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) is the biggest jinxer of all, tbh.... case in point: during Chiefs/Colts last year, he started a thread bashing Luck for turning the ball over so much - end result: the Colts promptly rallied from a 28-point deficit to win the game :lol

Then there was his "Lock of the Year" the season before that he was pimping all summer as a sure bet for him to win, and he lost that too :lol

[MeloHype]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10154963_10152718648204056_860034306179030672_n.jp g

[LkrFan]

Can you imagine lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) and LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824) on opposite sides in of a rivalry in the Soccer Forum? The game would end 4-4 with 3 players from each side tearing their ACLs.

Pacers are back in 1st place (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400490065) in the EC. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh! :lol

LINK (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings)

[Clipper Nation]

Pacers are back in 1st place (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400490065) in the EC. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh! :lol

LINK (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings)
Not for long, since they're going to get anally devastated by the T-Refs tomorrow :lol

[Kawhi]

Enjoy them while they last, s:loln.... IIRC, PG, Blake, and CP3's contracts all expire at the same time, and George was a Clipperfan growing up :downspin::lmao

[LkrFan]

Not for long, since they're going to get anally devastated by the T-Refs tomorrow :lol
Nah, they know they need game 7 in Indy. I'd be shocked if they laid an egg.

[Clipper Nation]

I'd be shocked if they laid an egg.
:lol Still saying this after how they've played since the trade deadline

[LkrFan]

:lmao
And he got nerve enough to bump this thread. Pacers, like PG, was balling when this thread was made. Now, not so much. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

And he got nerve enough to bump this thread.
:lol You bumped this thread, Eduardo, not me....

[LkrFan]

:lol Still saying this after how they've played since the trade deadline
They've beaten your cHeat since det deadline (in Indy by 2). What's your point?

[Clipper Nation]

They've beaten your cHeat since det deadline (in Indy by 2). What's your point?
They're not "my" Heat, and I'm pretty sure that was before the league finally banned the BS "verticality" call that Hibbert used to use to the max against Miami.... after that rule change, Hibbert looked like a scrub last time they played Miami and they lost badly:downspin:

[LkrFan]

They're not "my" Heat, and I'm pretty sure that was before the league finally banned the BS "verticality" call that Hibbert used to use to the max against Miami.... after that rule change, Hibbert looked like a scrub last time they played Miami and they lost badly:downspin:
LeBron's Zipper Nation - don't fr:lolnt.

LeBronze getting MJ-type food stamps. That "rule change" allowed your cHeat to thrive with Bosh Spice at center and neutered Hibbert. Glad that rule didn't exist when we had Shaq... SMH

[LkrFan]

:lol You bumped this thread, Eduardo, not me....
:lol

[Clipper Nation]

LeBron's Zipper Nation - don't fr:lolnt.
PostPauPcrFag


LeBronze getting MJ-type food stamps. That "rule change" allowed your cHeat to thrive with Bosh Spice at center and neutered Hibbert. Glad that rule didn't exist when we had Shaq... SMH
Stern DID get rid of handchecking to benefit your boy Kirby :lol

And no, the "verticality" shit was always BS and Hibbert gets exposed badly when they don't call it :lol

[LkrFan]

PostPauPcrFag?

Maaaaaaaaaad :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Maaaaaaaaaad :lol
You'd be shinin' the Guests' shoes on OregonLive without MVPau and you know it :lol

[LkrFan]

You'd be shinin' the Guests' shoes on OregonLive without MVPau and you know it :lol
You guys will be spit shining Mark Jackson's size 11 Stacy Adams real soon. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

You guys will be spit shining Mark Jackson's size 11 Stacy Adams real soon. :lol
Thanks for picking against us :tu

[LkrFan]

Thanks for picking against us :tu
No problem. Gotta get that 2nd round hymen popped one day. Why not now? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

The Pacers are the biggest threat to Miami. They have the NBA's top scorer in Paul George (28.0 ppg), top swatter in Mount Hibbert (6bpg), they are 3rd in points allowed (only 88.5ppg), 5th in point differential (+7.5), and 4th in opponents FG% (only 39.3%). Of course, they're also 3-0. They are playing with an air of invincibility and a swagger I haven't seen from them in a minute.

Paul George seems like he's taking the next step. Their X-Factor: Lance Stephenson. He is by far the biggest surprise for me. This dude is giving them 17.5ppg, 7.5rpg, 4.5apg, 22.15 PER, and shooting a blistering 62.5%. We know what D West brings to the table, but they also added Scola to back him up. I like how George Hill has been playing.

Verdict: they're contenders. Miami, beware of Pacers. Can't wait to see them lock horns in the playoffs again tbh.

http://www.bballbreakdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/pacers-heat-playoff-odds.jpg
https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1384749876/6954859.gif

[Venti Quattro]

LkrFan come and :downspin: :downspin: :downspin: :downspin: :downspin: det shit

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao LkrFan

[Malik Hairston]

Pacers(along with the Knicks) were the only flaw on my resume this year, tbh:lol..

Although you could also credit that to me trying to hype East teams, tbh:lol..

[LkrFan]

:lmao LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824)
:lol

[LkrFan]

Thanks for picking against us :tu
How's it working so far? :downspin:

[LkrFan]

You'd be shinin' the Guests' shoes on OregonLive without MVPau and you know it
You guys will be spit shining Mark Jackson's size 11 Stacy Adams real soon.



You guys will be spit shining Mark Jackson's size 11 Stacy Adams real soon. :lol
Might be sooner than I thought. CR:lolFL

[Franklin]

Pacers(along with the Knicks) were the only flaw on my resume this year, tbh:lol..

That along with your sexual orientation which's a flaw on your resume for life long.

[hater]

this team is done. sure they can recover to win a couple of series. but no way they recover to even get to the Finals. DONE

[Venti Quattro]

LkrFan how do you like them Pacers now you spic

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[midnightpulp]

Jesus, when he curses he really curses.

A sub-.500 8th seed beating a 1 seed is unthinkable. But Lkrfan found a way.

[Katherine Robinson]

It's time to curse the Spurs, LkrFan

[Clipper Nation]

Jesus, when he curses he really curses.

A sub-.500 8th seed beating a 1 seed is unthinkable. But Lkrfan found a way.
Don't forget the Lakers now tanking because he roots for them :lol

[ElNono]

Alfredo with the voodoo shit, tbh

[HI-FI]

It's time to curse the Spurs, LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824)
:lol
fuck you.
LkrFan, it's time to put all your chips on the Heat or Thunder.

[LkrFan]

LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824) how do you like them Pacers now you spic

:lmao :lmao :lmao

:lol

[LkrFan]

Jesus, when he curses he really curses.

A sub-.500 8th seed beating a 1 seed is unthinkable. But Lkrfan found a way.:lol

[spurraider21]

LkrFan do us all a solid and predict Dallas to fulfill the upset tbh

[Mugen]

I want LkrFan to pick the Mavs and lefty to pick the Spurs so the world explodes tbh.

[LkrFan]

LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824) do us all a solid and predict Dallas to fulfill the upset tbh
Sorry, no can do (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231969&p=7268774#post7268774)son. :lol

[LkrFan]

I want LkrFan to pick the Mavs and lefty to pick the Spurs so the world explodes tbh.

CR:lolFL

[Expert]

The OP asked which teams were contenders. At the time the OP was made, the teams mentioned were indeed contenders. A great hitter isn't a shitty hitter just because he's in a slump. Indy still has the best RS record in the East. They just need to find their game, win one on the road and then take care of home.

[Venti Quattro]

LkrFan spin this shit right now, cabron

[LkrFan]

:)

[MeloHype]

Wizards in 4 or 5

[LkrFan]

Wizards in 4 or 5
We'll see son. :toast

[Clipper Nation]

:)
Beating a sub-.500 team in 7 games =/= "contender," Alando :lol

[LkrFan]

Jesus, when he curses he really curses.

A sub-.500 8th seed beating a 1 seed is unthinkable. But Lkrfan found a way.
LkrFan Curse = brokenPERI:lolD

[Clipper Nation]

LkrFan Curse = brokenPERI:lolD


Beating a sub-.500 team in 7 games =/= "contender," Alando :lol

[LkrFan]

Beating a sub-.500 team in 7 games =/= "contender," Alando :lol
'08 champs struggled early and often that year... Until the Finals. :(

:)

[Clipper Nation]

'08 champs struggled early and often that year... Until the Finals. :(

:)
'08 champs won 66 games in a better Eastern Conference and never collapsed as epically as your Pacers did, Tito :lol

They then sent your Kirby out with a 39... Christ!

[LkrFan]

'08 champs won 66 games in a better Eastern Conference and never collapsed as epically as your Pacers did, Tito :lol

They then sent your Kirby out with a 39... Christ!Context son. They had a few 7-game series IIRC in the playoffs. Just like these Pacers. They were the #1 seed. Just like these Pacers. They had the #1 defense in the association... Just like these Pacers.

I'm glad the Pacers are struggling. This was a good wakeup call for them because they've been sliding since they 86'd Granger. Even Mt Hibbert (6-10 FGs, 7 rebs, 5 swats, +16) rose to the challenge of a game 7. Maybe they're pacing themselves. ;)

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao..

[spurraider21]

:lol hibbert was doing so shitty that getting 7 rebounds against Pero Antic was considered stepping up

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao spin this shit now, Ruben!
:lmao LkrFan

[LkrFan]

:lmao spin this shit now, Ruben!
:lmao LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824)

:lmao

[Venti Quattro]

:lol LkrFan
:lol Juancho
:lol Pacers

[midnightpulp]

I thought he might've broken it. Wasn't it to be.

The Pacers are too mentally weak. Miami wins in 5.

[Venti Quattro]

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[spurraider21]

While being a final 4 team is typically good enough for contender status, it's hard to imagine the pacers would have survived a round out west. Their decline within a few months still confuses me. Maybe they were playing over their heads, but they aren't even as good as they were last season

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao LkrFan

:downspin: dis shiiiiitttttt, Anibal! :lol

[rogues]

:lol The cute little team should have just lost in the first round..