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tlongII
11-07-2013, 11:26 AM
http://www.weather.com/news/new-dinosaur-predates-t-rex-found-utah-20131106

http://s.imwx.com/dru/2013/11/15044b16-a494-40dc-abc7-b8ebd6cf1c44_650x366.jpg

Paleontologists on Wednesday unveiled a new dinosaur discovered four years ago in southern Utah that proves giant tyrant dinosaurs like the Tyrannosaurus rex were around 10 million years earlier than previously believed.

A full skeletal replica of the carnivore — the equivalent of the great uncle of the T. rex — was on display at the Natural History Museum of Utah alongside a 3-D model of the head and a large painted mural of the dinosaur roaming a shoreline.

It was the public's first glimpse at the new species, which researchers named Lythronax argestes (LY'-throw-nax ar-GES'-tees). The first part of the name means "king of gore," and the second part is derived from poet Homer's southwest wind.
The fossils were found in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in November 2009, and a team of paleontologists spent the past four years digging them up and traveling the world to confirm they were a new species.

Paleontologists believe the dinosaur lived 80 million years ago in the late Cretaceous Period on a landmass in the flooded central region of North America.

(WATCH: What Happened to the Dinosaurs?)

The discovery offers valuable new insight into the evolution of the ferocious tyrannosaurs that have been made famous in movies and captured the awe of school children and adults alike, said Thomas Holtz Jr., a vertebrate paleontologist at the University of Maryland department of geology.

"This shows that these big, banana-tooth bruisers go back to the very first days of the giant tyrant dinosaurs," said Holtz, who reviewed the findings. "This one is the first example of these kind of dinosaurs being the ruler of the land."

The new dinosaur likely was a bit smaller than the Tyrannosaurus rex but was otherwise similar, said Mark Loewen, a University of Utah paleontologist who co-authored a journal article about the discovery with fellow University of Utah paleontologist Randall Irmis.

It was 24 feet long and 8 feet tall at the hip, and was covered in scales and feathers, Loewen said. Asked what the carnivorous dinosaur ate, Loewen responded: "Whatever it wants."

"That skull is designed for grabbing something, shaking it to death and tearing it apart," he said.

The fossils were found by a seasonal paleontologist technician for the Bureau of Land Management who climbed up two cliffs and stopped at the base of a third in the national monument.

(MORE: Fossil Fish is Oldest Creature With a Face)

"I realized I was standing with bone all around me," said Scott Richardson, who called his boss, Alan Titus, to let him know about the fossils.

Loewen and others spent three years traveling the world to compare the fossils to other dinosaurs to be absolutely sure it was a new species. The findings are being published in the journal PLOS One.

The fossils were found in a southern Utah rock formation that also has produced the oldest-known triceratops, named "Diabloceratops," and other dome-headed and armored dinosaurs.

There are about 1 million acres of cretaceous rocks that could be holding other new species of dinosaurs, said Titus, the BLM paleontologist who oversees the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. Only about 10 percent of the rock formation has been scoured, he said. Twelve other new dinosaurs found there are waiting to be named.

"We are just getting started," Titus said. "We have a really big sandbox to play in."

Holtz said the finding is a testament to the bounty of fossils lying in the earth in North America. He predicts more discoveries in Utah.

"It shows we don't have to go to Egypt or Mongolia or China to find new dinosaurs," Holtz said. "It's just a matter of getting the field teams out."

tlongII
11-07-2013, 11:27 AM
Of course this can't be true though...

bigzak25
11-07-2013, 11:33 AM
Cool, can't wait to watch the new episode of Dino Dan with my kids.

The Reckoning
11-07-2013, 12:22 PM
in b4 mouse "why won't paleontologists cure cancer" shtick

Woo Bum-kon
11-07-2013, 01:20 PM
But the earth is only 6000 years old.

jag
11-07-2013, 01:21 PM
But the earth is only 6000 years old.

lol so predictable. So obsessed

I. Hustle
11-07-2013, 02:01 PM
But the earth is only 6000 years old.

Where did you get that from?

CubanSucks
11-07-2013, 02:20 PM
Who gives a shit

SA210
11-07-2013, 02:23 PM
Who gives a shit

Well, there was a Hobbit found next to it..

CubanSucks
11-07-2013, 02:24 PM
Well, there was a Hobbit found next to it..

Nice try except hobbits only existed in New Zealand and Britain idiot

SA210
11-07-2013, 02:26 PM
Nice try except hobbits only existed in New Zealand and Britain idiot

:rollin

TDMVPDPOY
11-07-2013, 03:22 PM
another day, another wanker making up fake shit just for more govt funding for bullshit research not relevant...

mouse
11-08-2013, 02:30 PM
Where did you get that from?

He's making up $hit. That is why I don't bother debating him. First off there are many different parts of the world that have historical records of a massive flood dating back to around 6,000 years. As well as the Bible.

The earth had already been here long before that time. Not even the "Bible Thumpers" as many of you that can't debate w/o name calling refer them to, not even they claim the earth is 6,000 years old.

But trying to discus these matters with TLongII and others is like trying to teach a room full of 4 years old's how to properly fill out a Tax form.


Funny how anyone else is wrong about something they are "Liars" "full of $hit" but the Science and the paleontologist get a pass. Its not we were "Lied" to, they just didn't have all the data or fossils.

We have all the fossils we need not one fossil proves Evolution. In fact many fossils found in the same layer as the dinosaur prints show presents of humans.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/foot54.jpg

But these fossils never make it into the school text books therefore you produce students that don't get the whole story and then you end up with naive people like TLongII that have to be educated on a Spurs forum.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/foot2.jpg

RD2191
11-08-2013, 02:37 PM
He's making up $hit. That is why I don't bother debating him. First off there are many different parts of the world that have historical records of a massive flood dating back to around 6,000 years. As well as the Bible.

The earth had already been here long before that time. Not even the "Bible Thumpers" as many of you that can't debate w/o name calling refer them to, not even they claim the earth is 6,000 years old.

But trying to discus these matters with TLongII and others is like trying to teach a room full of 4 years old's how to properly fill out a Tax form.


Funny how anyone else is wrong about something they are "Liars" "full of $hit" but the Science and the paleontologist get a pass. Its not we were "Lied" to, they just didn't have all the data or fossils.

We have all the fossils we need not one fossil proves Evolution. In fact many fossils found in the same layer as the dinosaur prints show presents of humans.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/foot54.jpg

But these fossils never make it into the school text books therefore you produce students that don't get the whole story and then you end up with naive people like TLongII that have to be educated on a Spurs forum.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/foot2.jpg
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7n9xtvJ9K1qi4uu3.gif

SA210
11-08-2013, 02:48 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7n9xtvJ9K1qi4uu3.gif

lol

mouse
11-09-2013, 06:03 PM
Evolutionist are always searching for something to reassure them they must be right.

I love Lucy must be one of TLong's favorite shows for him and his misguided follower's.


j7GZCgjE2H0

AchillesHeel
11-09-2013, 06:22 PM
Earth is 4.6 billion years old

mouse
11-09-2013, 09:26 PM
Earth is 4.6 billion years old

Making sure I lock in your quote so you cant dispute it when your properly educated later.


Try and answer this question .......

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/th_MIT-on-Evolution-22_zpsf6e8801c.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/MIT-on-Evolution/MIT-on-Evolution-22_zpsf6e8801c.mp4)


I will check back Sunday so take your time to research the answer.

mouse
11-09-2013, 09:30 PM
Evolution frauds

Why are there evolution frauds.

In 1859, in his book Origin of the Species, Charles Darwin said: “Why, if species have descended from other species by insensibly fine gradations, (why) do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms?”. This is from chapter six entitled Difficulties on the Theory. Scientists who believe evolution have been searching for transitional forms ever since but they have been not found. Therefore, fraudulent fossils have been made and presented as transitional forms.
http://evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/files/2009/05/haeckels-fraud-drawings.jpg

Evolution fraud. Haeckels drawings are still printed in some of todays school science text books with full knowledge that they are wrong.

One of the most popular and familiar pieces of evidence used to bolster the theory of evolution – reproduced for decades in most high school and college biology textbooks – is fraudulent, and has been known to be fraudulent for nearly 100 years.

Most people have seen those drawings of human embryos next to developing animal embryos, and they look virtually indistinguishable. (The Haeckel embryo sequence shown purported to show – left to right – a hog, calf, rabbit and human).This has long been said to demonstrate that humans share a common ancestry with these animals and thus prove the theory of evolution.

These pictures were designed by German zoologist Ernst Haeckel. What few people know – and one of many surprises in the evolution debate is that they were fakes. At Jena, the university where he taught, Haeckel was charged with fraud by five professors and convicted by a university court. His deceit was exposed in “Haeckel’s Frauds and Forgeries,” a 1915 book by J. Assmuth and Ernest R. Hull, who quoted 19 leading authorities of the day.

http://www.wnd.com/images/heckell.jpg

Rutimeyer said in 1868

“Haeckel claims these works to be both easy for the scientific layman to follow, and scientific and scholarly. No one will quarrel with the first evaluation of the author, but the second quality is not one that he seriously can claim. These are works, clothed in medieval formalistic garb. There is considerable manufacturing of scientific evidence perpetrated. Yet the author has been very careful not to let the reader become aware of this state of affairs.” (Referate, L. Rutimeyer, in Archiv fur Anthropologie, 1868). [Notes: In 1868, L. Rutimeyer wrote an article, entitled "Referate," which appeared on pages 301-302 of the Archiv fur Anthropologie (Archives of Anthropology). In that article, Rutimeyer, professor of zoology and comparative anatomy, at the University of Basel, reviewed two of Haeckel's books, Natural History of Creation (Naturliche Schopfungsgeschichte), and his Uber die Enstehung and den Stammbaum des Menschengeschlechts, both of which had been newly published the same year that Rutimeyer's review was published: 1868. Rutimeyer the fraudulent woodcuts. For example, the dog embryo and human embryo, shown on page 240 of Haeckel's book, are completely identical. Haeckel maintained that he faithfully copied the dog embryo from Bischoff (4th week). Rutimeyer then reprinted the original drawing made by Bischoff of the dog embryo at 4 weeks, and the original of human embryo at 4 weeks made by Haeckel. The originals were very much different! Then Rutimeyer notes that, elsewhere in Haeckel's book, that same woodcut is used to portray a dog, a chicken, and a tortoise! Rutimeyer was a well-known German scientist living at that time. He regularly had articles in each yearly volume of Archiv fur Anthropologie, yet his book review was never translated into English nor published in Britain or America!]

Yet, despite Haeckel’s fraud conviction and early exposure, Western educators continued using the pictures for decades as proof of the theory of evolution.

The matter was settled with finality by Dr. Michael Richardson, an embryologist at St. George’s Medical School in London. He found there was no record that anyone ever actually checked Haeckel’s claims by systematically comparing human and other fetuses during development. So Richardson assembled a scientific team that did just that – photographing the growing embryos of 39 different species.

In a 1997 interview in The Times of London, Dr. Richardson stated: “This is one of the worst cases of scientific fraud. It’s shocking to find that somebody one thought was a great scientist was deliberately misleading. It makes me angry. … What he [Haeckel] did was to take a human embryo and copy it, pretending that the salamander and the pig and all the others looked the same at the same stage of development. They don’t. … These are fakes.”

Today – believe it or not – Haeckel’s drawings still appear in many high school and college textbooks. Among them are “Evolutionary Biology” by Douglas J. Futuyma (Third Edition, Sunderland, MA: Sinauer Associates, 1998), and also the bedrock text, “Molecular Biology of the Cell” (third edition), whose authors include biochemist Dr. Bruce Alberts, president of the National Academy of Sciences.

Haeckel’s fraudulent drawings are just one of evolution’s pillars now under spectacular scientific assault. There are many others. And I will post them.

wontstartdumbthreads
11-10-2013, 03:55 AM
Nice try except hobbits only existed in New Zealand and Britain idiot

That's so hot. I can't even think about a Hobbit without masturbating.

mouse
11-22-2013, 06:13 AM
Earth is 4.6 billion years old

And your best evidence is?

AchillesHeel
11-22-2013, 07:52 AM
And your best evidence is?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-JmVLEkTKc

Leetonidas
11-22-2013, 08:43 AM
mouse being a retard per par

Illuminati
11-23-2013, 01:38 PM
mouse being a retard per par

Leetonidas proving every day with his school yard mentality he can take out the Intelligent of Intelligent design.

Look at his past postings over the years his brain suffers from CTE and the sad part he can't blame football.

He will have to sue the ballet teacher to recover any damages.

( waiting for Leetonidas to Google the term CTE and come back with more proof he has it)

Michael Jordan.
11-23-2013, 02:00 PM
http://www.weather.com/news/new-dinosaur-predates-t-rex-found-utah-20131106

http://chasing23.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Kobe-Bryant-Jaw.jpg

Paleontologists on Wednesday unveiled a new dinosaur discovered four years ago in southern Utah that proves giant tyrant dinosaurs like the Tyrannosaurus rex were around 10 million years earlier than previously believed.

A full skeletal replica of the carnivore — the equivalent of the great uncle of the T. rex — was on display at the Natural History Museum of Utah alongside a 3-D model of the head and a large painted mural of the dinosaur roaming a shoreline.

It was the public's first glimpse at the new species, which researchers named Lythronax argestes (LY'-throw-nax ar-GES'-tees). The first part of the name means "king of gore," and the second part is derived from poet Homer's southwest wind.
The fossils were found in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in November 2009, and a team of paleontologists spent the past four years digging them up and traveling the world to confirm they were a new species.

Paleontologists believe the dinosaur lived 80 million years ago in the late Cretaceous Period on a landmass in the flooded central region of North America.

(WATCH: What Happened to the Dinosaurs?)

The discovery offers valuable new insight into the evolution of the ferocious tyrannosaurs that have been made famous in movies and captured the awe of school children and adults alike, said Thomas Holtz Jr., a vertebrate paleontologist at the University of Maryland department of geology.

"This shows that these big, banana-tooth bruisers go back to the very first days of the giant tyrant dinosaurs," said Holtz, who reviewed the findings. "This one is the first example of these kind of dinosaurs being the ruler of the land."

The new dinosaur likely was a bit smaller than the Tyrannosaurus rex but was otherwise similar, said Mark Loewen, a University of Utah paleontologist who co-authored a journal article about the discovery with fellow University of Utah paleontologist Randall Irmis.

It was 24 feet long and 8 feet tall at the hip, and was covered in scales and feathers, Loewen said. Asked what the carnivorous dinosaur ate, Loewen responded: "Whatever it wants."

"That skull is designed for grabbing something, shaking it to death and tearing it apart," he said.

The fossils were found by a seasonal paleontologist technician for the Bureau of Land Management who climbed up two cliffs and stopped at the base of a third in the national monument.

(MORE: Fossil Fish is Oldest Creature With a Face)

"I realized I was standing with bone all around me," said Scott Richardson, who called his boss, Alan Titus, to let him know about the fossils.

Loewen and others spent three years traveling the world to compare the fossils to other dinosaurs to be absolutely sure it was a new species. The findings are being published in the journal PLOS One.

The fossils were found in a southern Utah rock formation that also has produced the oldest-known triceratops, named "Diabloceratops," and other dome-headed and armored dinosaurs.

There are about 1 million acres of cretaceous rocks that could be holding other new species of dinosaurs, said Titus, the BLM paleontologist who oversees the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. Only about 10 percent of the rock formation has been scoured, he said. Twelve other new dinosaurs found there are waiting to be named.

"We are just getting started," Titus said. "We have a really big sandbox to play in."

Holtz said the finding is a testament to the bounty of fossils lying in the earth in North America. He predicts more discoveries in Utah.

"It shows we don't have to go to Egypt or Mongolia or China to find new dinosaurs," Holtz said. "It's just a matter of getting the field teams out."

RD2191
11-23-2013, 11:59 PM
Leetonidas proving every day with his school yard mentality he can take out the Intelligent of Intelligent design.

Look at his past postings over the years his brain suffers from CTE and the sad part he can't blame football.

He will have to sue the ballet teacher to recover any damages.

( waiting for Leetonidas to Google the term CTE and come back with more proof he has it)
:lmao

DMC
11-24-2013, 02:05 AM
Thought maybe Oden got traded to the Jazz.

AchillesHeel
11-25-2013, 02:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LzSX37C5J4

Pee-Wee Herman
11-25-2013, 02:43 AM
mouse being a retard per par



Leetonidas proving every day with his school yard mentality he can take out the Intelligent of Intelligent design.

Look at his past postings over the years his brain suffers from CTE and the sad part he can't blame football.

He will have to sue the ballet teacher to recover any damages.

( waiting for Leetonidas to Google the term CTE and come back with more proof he has it)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWlJ4FpUCU

Alex Jones
11-25-2013, 05:12 AM
TlongII ..................TlongII .........

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Big Douche
11-27-2013, 05:46 PM
TlongII ..................TlongII .........

PQL5E93m0iY

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7n9xtvJ9K1qi4uu3.gif

Alex Jones
11-28-2013, 07:39 PM
TLongII?

mouse
11-29-2013, 05:32 PM
TlongII ..................TlongII .........

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http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7n9xtvJ9K1qi4uu3.gif

mouse
12-08-2013, 11:56 PM
RIP TLongII and Darwin.

DMC
12-09-2013, 12:53 AM
I have an idea: Lets get the three fat people together who have many alt names and have them post their gif and photoshopped pics under different user names. That's always fun.

mouse
12-12-2013, 03:39 PM
I have an idea:

Then make a topic about it ! meanwhile let the adults talk in this one.

TlongII?