View Full Version : RW vs AL vs RGIII
Avante
11-08-2013, 03:57 AM
heading into wk 10.
RW....98.1 rating/62.3 comp %/15td's/8wins
AL...91.5 rating/58.3 comp %/13tds/6wins
RGIII....83.8 ranking/60.8 comp %/12td's/2 wins
AaronY
11-08-2013, 01:22 PM
oh, ok
N0 LyF3 ScRuB
11-08-2013, 01:26 PM
None
Cam Newton
spurraider21
11-08-2013, 01:28 PM
Knee has 12 turnovers
Wilson has 11
Luck has 4
Avante
11-08-2013, 01:38 PM
Knee has 12 turnovers
Wilson has 11
Luck has 4
And?
spurraider21
11-08-2013, 01:50 PM
i think its self explanatory
Holden_Caulfield
11-08-2013, 01:56 PM
keenum is the best qb in that draft class tbh :lol maybe
AaronY
11-08-2013, 03:37 PM
And?
turnovers are a negative thing
Lincoln
11-08-2013, 03:38 PM
Knee has 12 turnovers
Wilson has 11
Luck has 4
Knee has had a shit load so far yeah but 4 of them are really on the RBs ( 3 drops by Alfred and one by helu on pitch plays) and then the bad snap in the Denver/Dallas game
He had 12 all year last year tho so it's alarming and he needs to get his shit together
N0 LyF3 ScRuB
11-08-2013, 03:41 PM
Knee has had a shit load so far yeah but 4 of them are really on the RBs ( 3 drops by Alfred and one by helu on pitch plays) and then the bad snap in the Denver/Dallas game
He had 12 all year last year tho so it's alarming and he needs to get his shit together
RGIII seems scared to stay in the pocket
Lincoln
11-08-2013, 03:44 PM
RGIII seems scared to stay in the pocket
Yeah it's weird cause last year his poise surprised me especially for a rookie. Missing the entire offseason and preseason has destroyed his fundamentals. Hope he gets it back but this season is over. At least he is being humbled this year. Got tired of his ego and cockiness
Our shitty interior line is also a factor
SanAntonioSpurs23
11-08-2013, 03:48 PM
Boiled down Luck>other niggas
lakerhaterade
11-08-2013, 03:50 PM
The ogre is clearly better than all these scrubs imo
spurraider21
11-08-2013, 03:57 PM
I think everybody outside the black panthers knows that Luck is the best qb of the class. Doesn't take away from some of the others
Avante
11-08-2013, 03:58 PM
I think everybody outside the black panthers knows that Luck is the best qb of the class. Doesn't take away from some of the others
Not so far and the numbers prove that fact.
RW has more TD's, a higher comp % and won more games, what else is there?
spurraider21
11-08-2013, 04:04 PM
Spearheaded a bigger franchise turnaround than the others. Shoulders more of the responsibility for his team than the others, etc
Avante
11-08-2013, 04:07 PM
Spearheaded a bigger franchise turnaround than the others. Shoulders more of the responsibility for his team than the others, etc
The Seahawks were...
5-11
8-10
7-9
Prior to RW, the Colts were...
16-3
10-7
2-14
prior to AL.
Do the math.
Lincoln
11-08-2013, 04:08 PM
Knee has had a shit load so far yeah but 4 of them are really on the RBs ( 3 drops by Alfred and one by helu on pitch plays) and then the bad snap in the Denver/Dallas game
He had 12 all year last year tho so it's alarming and he needs to get his shit together
Actually I wanna say only 1 fumble was lost on a pitch play luckily.
Avante
11-08-2013, 04:09 PM
Actually I wanna say only 1 fumble was lost on a pitch play luckily.
RGIII won't last 4 seasons as your starter.
Lincoln
11-08-2013, 04:14 PM
Lol on ignore list old faggot. Try again
HarlemHeat37
11-08-2013, 04:15 PM
Football Outsiders QB Rank: Luck 10th Wilson 15th, RG3 26th
ESPN QBR: Luck 5th, Wilson 18th, RG3 26th
Advanced Stats WPA: Luck 7th, Wilson 12th, RG3 17th
Football Outsiders RB Rankings: Morris 3rd, Lynch 8th, Richardson 30th
Advanced Stats WPA: Morris 4th, Lynch 2nd, Donald Brown 22nd/Trent Richardson 49th
Avante
11-08-2013, 04:18 PM
Lol on ignore list old faggot. Try again
You really this fucked up?
Avante
11-08-2013, 04:23 PM
Football Outsiders QB Rank: Luck 10th Wilson 15th, RG3 26th
ESPN QBR: Luck 5th, Wilson 18th, RG3 26th
Advanced Stats WPA: Luck 7th, Wilson 12th, RG3 17th
Football Outsiders RB Rankings: Morris 3rd, Lynch 8th, Richardson 30th
Advanced Stats WPA: Morris 4th, Lynch 2nd, Donald Brown 22nd/Trent Richardson 49th
How about some reality?
1
Peyton Manning (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/1428/peyton-manning), QB
DEN
237
333
71.2
2,919
8.77
78
29
6
11
119.4
365
2
Aaron Rodgers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8439/aaron-rodgers), QB
GB
168
251
66.9
2,218
8.84
83
15
4
18
108.0
277
3
Philip Rivers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5529/philip-rivers), QB
SD
213
295
72.2
2,473
8.38
56
17
7
12
106.5
309
4
Drew Brees (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2580/drew-brees), QB
NO
213
322
66.1
2,672
8.30
69
21
7
20
104.5
334
5
Tony Romo (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5209/tony-romo), QB
DAL
229
346
66.2
2,553
7.38
82
20
6
19
100.0
284
6
Russell Wilson (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14881/russell-wilson), QB
SEA
144
231
62.3
1,845
7.99
80
15
6
27
98.1
205
7
Matthew Stafford (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12483/matthew-stafford), QB
DET
211
338
62.4
2,617
7.74
87
16
6
10
94.8
327
8
Cam Newton (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13994/cam-newton), QB
CAR
154
239
64.4
1,801
7.54
79
13
7
22
93.1
225
9
Andy Dalton (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14012/andy-dalton), QB
CIN
215
332
64.8
2,587
7.79
82
16
10
21
92.0
287
10
Matt Ryan (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11237/matt-ryan), QB
ATL
225
332
67.8
2,442
7.36
81
15
10
14
91.7
305
HarlemHeat37
11-08-2013, 05:18 PM
Using basic stats to illustrate your point speaks volumes, tbh..
I provided advanced stats that factor the variables involved..
Clipper Nation
11-08-2013, 05:37 PM
:lolld Fagg:lolt can't understand advanced stats because they aren't on the back of his dusty old football cards or in his old almanacs, tbh....
The Gemini Method
11-08-2013, 05:55 PM
Luck would be my pick...I think RW is a 2nd choice, but he takes too many hits and I'm not sure how long he'll hold up under that duress...Cam/Kaepernick/RGIII are still varying on where their career arcs might trend (Griffin taking too many hits is a great concern if I were a Redskins/(Insert Name Change Here...)...Kaepernick is inconsistent as is Cam Newton...
Lol on ignore list old faggot. Try again
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AchillesHeel
11-10-2013, 03:20 AM
Luck is the best QB of the bunch.
chunticakes
11-10-2013, 03:36 AM
luck.
Avante
11-10-2013, 11:19 AM
:lolld Fagg:lolt can't understand advanced stats because they aren't on the back of his dusty old football cards or in his old almanacs, tbh....
Now think idiot, how many old cards/almanacs know about todays QB's?
Why do you never ever get it right?
Avante
11-10-2013, 11:21 AM
Using basic stats to illustrate your point speaks volumes, tbh..
I provided advanced stats that factor the variables involved..
How about using the real rankings? There is a reason we have them....honest!~
Luck was leaning on Wayne a little too much tbh, but he still had a 3 TDs, basically all in the 4th quarter, to come back from a huge deficit and win. The Colts are good because of Luck, if they were starting Hasselbeck they might be 3-5 right now. The Seahawks and Niners are good for other reasons than their QB. RG3 does make the Redskins better, but Luck's impact on the Colts is huge. Once the Colts let him start running the no-huddle and call his own plays he is going to destroy the NFL. This year kind of sucks because the Colts have to feature Richardson to justify losing their first round pick.
HarlemHeat37
11-10-2013, 03:39 PM
How about using the real rankings? There is a reason we have them....honest!~
What are "real" rankings?..
Advanced stats are what we use in 2013, tbh..
spurraider21
11-10-2013, 04:54 PM
What are "real" rankings?..
Advanced stats are what we use in 2013, tbh..
What advanced stats do you use, tbh? You always reference them in ur rankings but never actually cite them
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