Is Manu Ever Going to Get His Jump Shot Back tbh?

[PlayNando]

You expect a TOSB to lose his athleticism, but you don't expect a TOSB to forget how to shoot. Unfortunately, that seems to be the case with our TOSB... :(

[Darius McCrary]

He lost his shot over an entire season ago, tbh

[itzsoweezee]

Popovich is playing him too many minutes. Manu should be playing 15 - 20 min. a game. He's getting to Michael Finley levels.

[Darius McCrary]

Ever since he broke his hand

[Skull-1]

Ever since he broke his hand
This.

[ElNono]

I like he's still chucking... if he's going to get his touch back, he's gonna have to keep throwing bricks until they go in...

This is the kind of game to do it too... up 30...

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

He's lost more of his shot than his athleticism. He's playing good tho tbh

[SpursRock20]

A lot of his shots are rimming out, he'll be fine.

[spurs10]

He probably took a few ill advised shots because of the large lead for exactly the reasons ElNono spoke of. He is looking in good shape really, I like Manu playing a little pissed off! Beware Philly!

[2centsworth]

pop and manu have been finished for awhile.they are lucky tony and Tim are bailing them out

[TMTTRIO]

Manu has never had a reliable shot but yeah he hasn't been great. Fortunately we have enough scorers

[bklynspursfan]

It looked good in the pre-season. It'll get there. Lot of guys have been rusty shooting the ball

[Budkin]

Yes imo tbh

[FuzzyLumpkins]

A lot of his shots are rimming out, he'll be fine.

This is the way I feel as well for the most part. However, one was bricked badly today which was unlike the others. As long as he doesn't make the backcourt or inside feed turnovers I don't much care. Those resulted in fast breaks the other way and fucked us all last post season.

[cjw]

Is this thread about JR Smith or Manu? Seriously guys, stop whining.

Was at game today and just be glad you're not all Knicks fans. They're going to struggle to win a playoff GAME this year, let alone series.

[apalisoc_9]

Enough with the "TOSB" terms.

From now on "TOSB" won't be tolerated. This is your first warning.

[Skull-1]

Enough with the "TOSB" terms.

From now on "TOSB" won't be tolerated. This is your first warning. What's a TOSB?

[PlayNando]

Manu has never had a reliable shot but yeah he hasn't been great. Fortunately we have enough scorers
Are you serious? :lol

[SpurSwag]

I think he'll be fine, and I still trust him completely to hit an important 3. As long as he stays healthy he'll work through it

[Skull-1]

I think he'll be fine, and I still trust him completely to hit an important 3. As long as he stays healthy he'll work through it


:lmao

[james evans]

:lmao
haha, i came in here to quote the exact same shit. spurswag u can't be fukin serious. i hope this is a joke. i don't even want the muthat fuka on the floor in a close game..

[hater]

player that are done usually don't regain their shot back once lost

[Skull-1]

haha, i came in here to quote the exact same shit. spurswag u can't be fukin serious. i hope this is a joke. i don't even want the muthat fuka on the floor in a close game..


:tu

Watch out. Pretty soon the homers will claim you, TGY, and I are the same person.

[PlayNando]

:tu

Watch out. Pretty soon the homers will claim you, TGY, and I are the same person.
You all are. Hell, you all have the same fkn avatar FFS.

[ElNono]

I think he'll be fine, and I still trust him completely to hit an important 3. As long as he stays healthy he'll work through it

so does Pop

[Skull-1]

You all are. Hell, you all have the same fkn avatar FFS.
It is part of our plot to takeover the world.

[Skull-1]

so does Pop


Which hasn't worked out so well lately...

[ElNono]

well, get used to two more years of that... Pop knows what he's doing...

[Skull-1]

well, get used to two more years of that... Pop knows what he's doing...


He sure thinks so...

[ElNono]

He's not infallible, but since Phil Jackson retired, he's the best coach in the league by a mile, IMO

[Skull-1]

He's not infallible, but since Phil Jackson retired, he's the best coach in the league by a mile, IMO
Duncan does that for people...

[ElNono]

He didn't do that for Larry Brown, tbh...

[ElNono]

In Pop's own words:

“We’re playing C-plus, B-minus basketball right now.”

The Spurs had only lost one game, it was pointed out, so they must be doing something right.
“Good fortune,” Popovich said. “Corporate knowledge. They’re older than dirt; they know what they’re doing.”

[Skull-1]

He didn't do that for Larry Brown, tbh...


Huh?

[ElNono]

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2012/08/07/DreamTeam51896562.jpg

[SpurSwag]

When it all came down to it, that three against golden state was an absolute must hit. When I saw him release it I had no doubt in my mind it was good and that shot turned out to be the game winner. How everyone on this board is turning on him after one bad season last year is embarrassing

[Skull-1]

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2012/08/07/DreamTeam51896562.jpgFIBA sucks. Different and stupid rules. Not even a proper comparison.

[Skull-1]

When it all came down to it, that three against golden state was an absolute must hit. When I saw him release it I had no doubt in my mind it was good and that shot turned out to be the game winner. How everyone on this board is turning on him after one bad season last year is embarrassing


One bad season? Dude hasn't even had a COMPLETE season in a decade... Please.

[ElNono]

FIBA sucks. Different and stupid rules. Not even a proper comparison.

So Duncan doesn't do that for everyone... got it

[ElNono]

One bad season? Dude hasn't even had a COMPLETE season in a decade... Please.

What do you mean by complete? If you mean 82 games, neither has Tim...

[Sean Cagney]

FIBA sucks. Different and stupid rules. Not even a proper comparison.

...........

[ElNono]

FIBA does suck. So does the notion that Pop is Tim's creation. Tim has a lot to do with Pop's success, and he's certainly the foundation of the franchise.

But you can see all around the league how easy it is to fuck things up from the bench, and Pop has a 15 year track record of making extremely wise decisions.

[Skull-1]

So Duncan doesn't do that for everyone... got it
Stupid comment.

[Skull-1]

What do you mean by complete? If you mean 82 games, neither has Tim...


Tim has played more games than Manu every year. Stop being insolent.

[ElNono]

Stupid comment.

you were wrong and stupid, per par... deal with it

[Skull-1]

you were wrong and stupid, per par... deal with it

Nope. FIBA sucks. Without Tim we probably wouldn't even have a bronze that year. Stfu already.

[ElNono]

Tim has played more games than Manu every year. Stop being insolent.

why don't you make me, Spartan :lmao

[ElNono]

Nope. FIBA sucks. Without Tim we probably wouldn't even have a bronze that year. Stfu already.

Nope. Tim didn't "make" anybody. You fucked up and you got called out for it, deal with it, lil faggot.

[Skull-1]

Nope. Tim didn't "make" anybody. You fucked up and you got called out for it, deal with it, lil faggot.


Stfu eldumbo.

Without Duncan Pop woulda been out of the league the year after Dave retired. Tim makes everyone else look better. Deal with that, moron.

[ElNono]

Stfu eldumbo.

Make me, stupid.


Without Duncan Pop woulda been out of the league the year after Dave retired. Tim makes everyone else look better. Deal with that, moron.

Don't change the subject. Duncan is great, but he's not capable of making a turd team a winner. Ask Larry Brown...

Duncan couldn't win shit on his own outside perhaps 2003. Look at Lebron in Cleveland to see how important good coaching and FO is. Nobody is taking anything away from TD, but you don't need to diminish Pop to enhance Duncan greatness. They're both HoF on their own right.

[Skull-1]

Make me, stupid.



Don't change the subject. Duncan is great, but he's not capable of making a turd team a winner. Ask Larry Brown...

Duncan couldn't win shit on his own outside perhaps 2003. Look at Lebron in Cleveland to see how important good coaching and FO is. Nobody is taking anything away from TD, but you don't need to diminish Pop to enhance Duncan greatness. They're both HoF on their own right.


Whatever you say eldildo.

[ElNono]

ElNono: 1 - Spartan: 0

Let us proceed...

[Skull-1]

ElNono: 1 - Spartan: 0

Let us proceed...


At worst it is Spartan: 47 - ElDildo: 0.25

You almost made a semi-point here but not quite...

[ElNono]

Whatever you say


ElNono: 1 - Spartan: 0

Let us proceed...

[Skull-1]

At worst it is Spartan: 47 - ElDildo: 0.25

You almost made a semi-point here but not quite...

[ElNono]

ElNono: 1 - Spartan: 0

Let us proceed...

[Skull-1]

ElDillhole: 0 - Spartan: 114

Let us proceed...


Fixed.

[ElNono]

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ElNono: 1 - Spartan: 0

Let us proceed...

[Skull-1]

Whatever idiot. Best coach in the league hasn't won crap in years and got out-coached by a scrub named Spoelstra.


ElDildo: Fail.

Score another for the Spartan.

[ElNono]

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ElNono: 1 - Spartan: 0

Let us proceed...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Whatever idiot. Best coach in the league hasn't won crap in years and got out-coached by a scrub named Spoelstra.


ElDildo: Fail.

Score another for the Spartan.

A guy that motivates Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh and Lebron James to play that fairly complicated 3-2 zone hybrid balls to the wall is now a scrub.

Perhaps you need to fantasize carrying Jack Ramsey onto a sesna so you can get a fucking clue.

[ElNono]

Cesna...

[Johnny RIngo]

Don't change the subject. Duncan is great, but he's not capable of making a turd team a winner. Ask Larry Brown...

Duncan couldn't win shit on his own outside perhaps 2003. Look at Lebron in Cleveland to see how important good coaching and FO is. Nobody is taking anything away from TD, but you don't need to diminish Pop to enhance Duncan greatness. They're both HoF on their own right.

Pop had the best team in the league in 2006. He had homecourt throughout the playoffs. And he lost to an Avery Johnson coached team. TD's Olympics is nowhere near as embarrassing as that series.

[james evans]

He's not infallible, but since Phil Jackson retired, he's the best coach in the league by a mile, IMO
i can't tell with some of the decisions he makes during games.

[james evans]

When it all came down to it, that three against golden state was an absolute must hit. When I saw him release it I had no doubt in my mind it was good and that shot turned out to be the game winner. How everyone on this board is turning on him after one bad season last year is embarrassing
did u forget he shot a damn near 28 footer previously for no apparent reason other than the fact that he wanted to do it?

[Rogue]

It'd be as hard for him as getting his lost hair back imho.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

did u forget he shot a damn near 28 footer previously for no apparent reason other than the fact that he wanted to do it?

Does that matter considering he bailed us out with that three and WON US THE GAME.

Fuck. What more can he do?

[PlayNando]

ElNono owning Skull-1 per par tbh...

[PlayNando]

JamesEvans = Tool. He and Skull-1 are racist TheGreatYacht trolls tbh!!!

[Skull-1]

How original. NOT.


^ Unable to detect sarcasm. :lmao

[ElNono]

Pop had the best team in the league in 2006. He had homecourt throughout the playoffs. And he lost to an Avery Johnson coached team. TD's Olympics is nowhere near as embarrassing as that series.

That's silly. Dallas had the 'best team on paper' and '60 wins' season a year later and couldn't get out of the first round. Sometimes you're not healthy (TD had plantar fasciitis during that series) or you run into a bad matchup. Those were the years we were still looking for a 'Dirk stopper'. Us and the rest of the league.


i can't tell with some of the decisions he makes during games.

As I said, he's no infallible. I also think Phil Jackson used to toy with him all the time.

But look at the track record. 10+ years of 50+ wins. And the team has a winning record even on games that TD and TP missed.

Who is a better coach out there? Thibs is getting exposed in Chicago, even with Rose right now.

[Skull-1]

Cesna...
Cessna. Score another one for me.

[Skull-1]

Playnandouche and Eldildo getting totally owned by Skull-1 per par tbh...


Fixed.

[Skull-1]

Pop had the best team in the league in 2006. He had homecourt throughout the playoffs. And he lost to an Avery Johnson coached team. TD's Olympics is nowhere near as embarrassing as that series.


True that along with other flameouts along the way. And getting out "strategeried" by Spoelstra the wonder boy...

[Skull-1]

That's silly. Dallas had the 'best team on paper' and '60 wins' season a year later and couldn't get out of the first round. Sometimes you're not healthy (TD had plantar fasciitis during that series) or you run into a bad matchup. Those were the years we were still looking for a 'Dirk stopper'. Us and the rest of the league.



As I said, he's no infallible. I also think Phil Jackson used to toy with him all the time.

But look at the track record. 10+ years of 50+ wins. And the team has a winning record even on games that TD and TP missed.

Who is a better coach out there? Thibs is getting exposed in Chicago, even with Rose right now.


Take away Duncan and no 50 win streak, that's for sure.

[ElNono]

Whatever you say


ElNono: 1 - Spartan: 0

Let us proceed...


ElNono owning Skull-1 per par tbh...

[Skull-1]

did u forget he shot a damn near 28 footer previously for no apparent reason other than the fact that he wanted to do it?
Yes, they all forget this.

[ElNono]

Take away Duncan and no 50 win streak, that's for sure.

shhhhhhhhhhh girl. You fucked up, now go sit at the back of the bus.

[Skull-1]

shhhhhhhhhhh girl. You fucked up, now go sit at the back of the bus.


Racist.


Again, refute the point? You can't. Tim makes everyone look better than they are. Period.

[ElNono]

Take away Duncan and no 50 win streak, that's for sure.

Prove it.

[ElNono]

Racist.

Again, refute the point? You can't. Tim makes everyone look better than they are. Period.

Refute a point you didn't make? Prove we don't win 50.

Prove also we win 50 with TD but with another coach.

[ElNono]

:lmao Spartan talking in "parables" again

[ElNono]

Pop himself will tell you Tim is the foundation. He built a team around Tim to maximize his strengths (ie: surround him with shooters to space the floor for him).

And Tim is great on his own right. But the fact that teams keep hiring Pop's assistant coaches throughout the league and teams keep trying to copy our team's system and culture comes straight from what Pop built.

You might disagree with certain decisions he made (not fouling last Finals, marrying Finley/Bonner), etc. But this is a game where you can't win with a single superstar. You need a team around, and he's been able to build a team successfully around the star, and make it consistently good. How's that not great?

[spurs10]

Pop himself will tell you Tim is the foundation. He built a team around Tim to maximize his strengths (ie: surround him with shooters to space the floor for him).

And Tim is great on his own right. But the fact that teams keep hiring Pop's assistant coaches throughout the league and teams keep trying to copy our team's system and culture comes straight from what Pop built. :toast

You might disagree with certain decisions he made (not fouling last Finals, marrying Finley/Bonner), etc. But this is a game where you can't win with a single superstar. You need a team around, and he's been able to build a team successfully around the star, and make it consistently good. How's that not great? It is great. Have a super time tonight and thoroughly enjoy seeing your team in action! Courtside no less!! :flag: When people are crying over a shot Manu 'missed' before he hit the game winner, then it's simply time to change their diaper and it can't be you! You are going to a Spurs game!! :toast

[SpurSwag]

did u forget he shot a damn near 28 footer previously for no apparent reason other than the fact that he wanted to do it?

Did you forget he was instrumental in 2 of our championships? My fucking god the guy had one bad season, I'm not some church of Manu guy I just support guys on our team because they're on our team and this player specifically has given his all to this organization. Shit do you even like the spurs? 99% of your posts are bitching about manu

[Johnny RIngo]

That's silly. Dallas had the 'best team on paper' and '60 wins' season a year later and couldn't get out of the first round.

Based on SRS, The Spurs were the best team in the league in 2007. Dallas were winning a lot of close games and overachieved that year. They weren't really any better than the 2007 Suns...certainly not on the Spurs level. SRS numbers for that year:

8.35 - Spurs
7.28 - Mavs
7.27 - Suns


Sometimes you're not healthy (TD had plantar fasciitis during that series) or you run into a bad matchup.

Despite the plantar fascitis, TD put up a dominant statline against Dallas over those seven games. Best player in the series. Manu was the third best player in the series. How Pop could lose a series while having the best player and third player AND homecourt, I'll never know.


Those were the years we were still looking for a 'Dirk stopper'. Us and the rest of the league.


Dirk was not unstoppable back then. He looked mediocre against the Heat, terrible against the Warrior during his MVP year the season after. 2011 Dirk you could say was unstoppable. 2007 Dirk had flaws in his game that could be exploited.

[ducks]

dirk blooked terrible because spurs made him work so hard and he was not used to playing that many games in a season
manu cost the spurs on that stupid foul in game 7 not pop

[ElNono]

Based on SRS, The Spurs were the best team in the league in 2007. Dallas were winning a lot of close games and overachieved that year. They weren't really any better than the 2007 Suns...certainly not on the Spurs level. SRS numbers for that year:

8.35 - Spurs
7.28 - Mavs
7.27 - Suns


The Spurs had the best SRS from 2003-04 to 2006-07. We only won half the time. Dallas had the league's best SRS in 2002-03, and we eliminated them. That's because you can't pick and choose stats to suit your narrative. TD didn't get hurt till late in the season. Dirk got hurt in our series in 02-03. This stuff happens, and that's why the numbers are rarely the whole story.


Despite the plantar fascitis, TD put up a dominant statline against Dallas over those seven games. Best player in the series. Manu was the third best player in the series. How Pop could lose a series while having the best player and third player AND homecourt, I'll never know.

TD put up monster numbers, but ask any Mavs fan how Spursfan completely overrated Diop for what he did that series against Tim. And it really wasn't Diop. Tim really stepped it up that series, but he couldn't give 100%.

The only thing that I didn't like was Pop pretty much throwing that Game 2 after that fatal 2nd quarter. But in hindsight, he might just been trying to avoid TD from getting even more hurt.


Dirk was not unstoppable back then. He looked mediocre against the Heat, terrible against the Warrior during his MVP year the season after. 2011 Dirk you could say was unstoppable. 2007 Dirk had flaws in his game that could be exploited.

We couldn't stop him. Dirk matched Duncan in offensive production. He shot 52% from the field (vs 55% for TD) and scored 190 points (vs 226 for TD).

If you look at that series, we just didn't have enough offense, and only made it close because of our D. They had 4 players that scored 100+ points during the series (Dirk, Terry, Howard and Stackhouse). Harris came fifth with 89. The Spurs only had 3 (Tim, Manu and Tony). The fourth was Finley with 74 points. After that, you're looking at players contributing 30 points or so for the entire 7 game series.

[ducks]

manu might get his jump shot back now that he might have some legs left after trying to get his wife pregnant for hours a day

[PlayNando]

dirk blooked terrible because spurs made him work so hard and he was not used to playing that many games in a season
manu cost the spurs on that stupid foul in game 7 not pop
:lol

[PlayNando]

manu might get his jump shot back now that he might have some legs left after trying to get his wife pregnant for hours a day
:lol

[Darkwaters]

A dumb man once asked, "will Manu Ginobili ever score 20 points in a game again?" In memory of his stupidity, I don't ask dumb questions about Manu.

[TheGoldStandard]

I see Manu's role slowly changing over the course of the season and his minutes being distributed more evenly with other members of the team. As long as he plays within himself I'm okay with how he performs. He'll never be what he once was but he'll show flashes.

[hater]

I see Manu's role slowly changing over the course of the season and his minutes being distributed more evenly with other members of the team.

:tu I think so. Especially if his shot is gone for good. I predicted his minutes would dilute to Belli and Green. Manu still valuable, but he most definitely should not keep same role he played in 2013 playoffs.


As long as he plays within himself I'm okay with how he performs. He'll never be what he once was but he'll show flashes.

hope so

[Skull-1]

I see Manu's role slowly changing over the course of the season and his minutes being distributed more evenly with other members of the team. As long as he plays within himself I'm okay with how he performs. He'll never be what he once was but he'll show flashes.


Agreed. His shot looks like garbage. No idea why someone who does this for a living can't figure out SOMETHING to make that aspect of his game better. I still think it has something to do with that broken hand.