General 2014 NBA Draft Discussion

[Captivus]

It should be noted the International prospects can still withdraw if this is the first draft they've declared for. I guarantee some are just declaring for the exposure and to get a gauge on their draft stock. It's good they're in for now, but it likely won't stay this way.

I assume (according to articles/rumors/mocks) that this Nurkic dude has to be able to get a 1st round pick promise-guarantee. (is that the word you use, promise?). Otherwise yes, they withdraw.

[AFBlue]

I assume (according to articles/rumors/mocks) that this Nurkic dude has to be able to get a 1st round pick promise-guarantee. (is that the word you use, promise?). Otherwise yes, they withdraw.

I would think so, but he'll get a good indication of his relative position as he goes through the process.

The guy I hope stays in is Inglis. His physical profile is literally unmatched, but he's so raw the Spurs have a legitimate shot at him. Add another year of growth and production, and I think he's a lottery pick. Just my two cents.

[Baam]

It should be noted the International prospects can still withdraw if this is the first draft they've declared for. I guarantee some are just declaring for the exposure and to get a gauge on their draft stock. It's good they're in for now, but it likely won't stay this way.

Yeah Porzingis is def gonna take his name out of the draft...

Seeing Boris play well makes me want Kyle Anderson so badly :/...

I'm not sold on Inglis at this point and barring a first round promise I think he takes his name out as well.

Right now I'd be perfectly happy with Bogdanovic as our SG position is a mess... Need a well rounded player with experience who can shoot the 3... One of Green-Beli gets traded to make room for him, ideally Beli is the one to go as Green can still be nice backup SF...

1- Bogdanovic
2- Elfrid Payton
3- LaVine/Dinwiddie
Is probably my current realistic wishlist...

[raybies]

Well according to draft express, Bogdans draft stock fell so he's within our range.

I think the Spurs draft one of these guys in the first round
Bogdan Bogdanovic
Damien Inglis
Nikola Jokic

But this is my wishlist
Deandre Daniels - I think Daniels is going to be a starter in the league and his shooting and versatility could really help this team as well as well as provide the Spurs with a traceable asset in the future. He's a little skinny for now but he compensates with his athleticism .
Zach Lavine - He's young with a lot of potential and needs time to develop but in the right system he could be a home run.
Isaiah Austin - I really think he could be a great insurance policy if we can't find a suitable Duncan replacement. He would offer a pick and pop option and be a rim protector. I would like to see what kind of player he could become as a student to Duncan.

[smaka]

I would like to see Spurs drafting Bogdanovic and not stashing him, but bringing him over this year, so he could have a great mentor in Manu.

[raybies]

I would like to see Spurs drafting Bogdanovic and not stashing him, but bringing him over this year, so he could have a great mentor in Manu.

yeah I hear you. I'm starting to favor Bogdan more than Lavine. He has a lot of qualities we like in a sg.

[smaka]

yeah I hear you. I'm starting to favor Bogdan more than Lavine. He has a lot of qualities we like in a sg.

I don't know Lavine, but I've seen Bogdan play a lot this year.

[BackHome]

I would like to see Spurs drafting Bogdanovic and not stashing him, but bringing him over this year, so he could have a great mentor in Manu.

If they draft him then he needs to be on the team and be given the chance to play serious minutes. And on the plus side he plays with Bertrans so bring him over will make it easier for both when coming off the bench.

I would take Inglis over Daniels since Inglis is four years younger and already has a NBA body and is shoots the three better.

I also get what your saying about Austin -I still want the Spurs to do a trade and move up higher in the second round to get either Austin or Cory Jefferson.

[raybies]

spurs are reported to have sent personel to scout guillem vives and Walter tavares . Walter is currently ranked #38 on DX.

[smaka]

Napier won't be a good NBA player, too small.

He is not THAT small... You've got smaller and pretty good nba players in the league right now.

[BackHome]

That's what she said..lol..

[RobinsontoDuncan]

The spurs really need a 2 guard that can shoot the ball and get to the rim.

[Captivus]

Just saw the Deandre Daniels scouting video, not a bad pick.

[TheCerebral1]

Through draft or free agency we have to get a backup PG who can keep there dribble alive and create for other players. (Semaj Christon- Vasilje Micic). We then need to get rid of Danny Green he is OK as a backup but he is not close to starting material (Adam Hanga) not sure if he is good enough to replace him but I know he can dribble and not turn the ball over.

Totally agree, I prefer Micic, due to his size and he'd fit in well with this group, but Christon would be another name to key in on. Both are guys that would make this team better.

[TheCerebral1]

Well according to draft express, Bogdans draft stock fell so he's within our range.

I think the Spurs draft one of these guys in the first round
Bogdan Bogdanovic
Damien Inglis
Nikola Jokic

But this is my wishlist
Deandre Daniels - I think Daniels is going to be a starter in the league and his shooting and versatility could really help this team as well as well as provide the Spurs with a traceable asset in the future. He's a little skinny for now but he compensates with his athleticism .
Zach Lavine - He's young with a lot of potential and needs time to develop but in the right system he could be a home run.
Isaiah Austin - I really think he could be a great insurance policy if we can't find a suitable Duncan replacement. He would offer a pick and pop option and be a rim protector. I would like to see what kind of player he could become as a student to Duncan.

Jokic is a guy that I could see falling into the second round. Vasilije Micic, Efrid Payton, Semaj Christon, Bogdanovic, Robinson are all guys that should be there. Jordan Adams is a nice idea as well. Right in the pack with the others you're mentioning. I really like Dinwiddie a bit, but he's a reach in the first round. Somehow I would love to add Patric Young and a stash and grab like Antetokounmpo, Porzingis, Inglis.

[BackHome]

I think your right......Depending who we draft first I just want us to be able to trade up in the second round and get a Patrick Young, Cory Jefferson and then latter get Jakar Sampson, Fuqan Edwin, or Antetokounmpo.

[eDizzle20]

Based on the various mock drafts over the last couple of months here is who I would like to see the Spurs take...

1. Elfrid Payton- a lot potential and great defender and solid passer (likely gone by pick 30)
2. Zach Lavine- very raw, but is young, athletic, and can shoot (likely gone by pick 30)
3. Mitch McGary- high energy, elite rebounder and does not need the ball to make an impact (could be available at 30)
4. Deandre Daniels- decent shooter, great length and can defend pretty well (could be available at 30)

[spurnash]

If the Spurs stay at their 1st round pick, DeAndre Daniels looks like the best fit. If he is gone and no one major unexpectedly drops I would expect a draft and stash... Maybe Bogdanovic plus I am somewhat intrigued by Porzingis (a draft express 1st rounder).

If Adreian Payne falls in to the 20's I would love the spurs to think about trading up.... in the second round I like Jokic and Ingles but I think they may have to move up a little to get them or trade down from their one and get both. For the last pick of the draft I like Papapetrou (who is signed for a few years anyway).

[BackHome]

Don't like Daniels for one reason for being the worst passer in this draft - Dead last.

For players who could see the court and contribute from day one:

Elfrid Payton 6'4 Pg- Will probably have to trade up
Semaj Christon 6'3PG - Needs work but athletic, can handle the rock and get to the rim with ease, also a very good defender
Bogdan Bogdanovic 6'6 - SG - Can start with the second unit and back up as a third PG
Mitch McGary '10- C - Bruiser who gives you everything on the court

On the Bubble:
Isaih Austin 7'1-C - Can't teach height
Jabari Brown 6'5 - SG - Good player

Draft and stash:
Nikola Jokic 6'11 - Opened some eyes with his recent play
Jusuf Nurkic 6'11 - A slightly more athletic Baynes
Damien Inglis 6'8 - PF/SF - Great Defender - Could see us doing something crazy and draft him first

Would love for the Spurs to trade up in the second round: Get one of the above or Cory Jefferson

A question would you trade your protected 1-20 next year first rounder for a high second round pick this year?

[stnick2261]

What I'd like to see in the draft:

1) Trade up for Clint Capela PF

2) Buy, or trade for 76er's #32 pick... so we have #30 and #32 and draft the first 2 still available of:
Kristaps Porzingis C
Elfrid Payton PG
Isaiah Austin C
Bogdan Bogdanovic SG
Walter Tavares C

3) Buy, or trade for 76er's #39 pick and draft Damien Inglis SF

[bluebellmaniac]

What I'd like to see in the draft:

1) Trade up for Clint Capela PF

2) Buy, or trade for 76er's #32 pick... so we have #30 and #32 and draft the first 2 still available of:
Kristaps Porzingis C
Elfrid Payton PG
Isaiah Austin C
Bogdan Bogdanovic SG
Walter Tavares C

3) Buy, or trade for 76er's #39 pick and draft Damien Inglis SF

I don't think they'd take Ayres or Daye for those picks and that's all we have to offer. Don't think Philly gutted their team for those picks just to sell them off.

Who would you trade for those picks?

[BackHome]

I would offer CoJo or even next years first round protected depending on who was an option at #32. Very deep draft so 32 is in most years a first round player.

[Captivus]

What I'd like to see in the draft:

1) Trade up for Clint Capela PF

2) Buy, or trade for 76er's #32 pick... so we have #30 and #32 and draft the first 2 still available of:
Kristaps Porzingis C
Elfrid Payton PG
Isaiah Austin C
Bogdan Bogdanovic SG
Walter Tavares C

3) Buy, or trade for 76er's #39 pick and draft Damien Inglis SF

I dont think Krispats would be available at 30,regardless of how many spots he falls in mocks. Someone is gonna take a chance with this guy around the 20 pick.
Same goes for Bogdan, a few pick later.

[exstatic]

I dont think Krispats would be available at 30,regardless of how many spots he falls in mocks. Someone is gonna take a chance with this guy around the 20 pick.
Same goes for Bogdan, a few pick later.

Don't forget that foreign players can still pull out of the draft, too. He's really young. He could move into the lottery in a draft that's not as deep as this one.

[Captivus]

Don't forget that foreign players can still pull out of the draft, too. He's really young. He could move into the lottery in a draft that's not as deep as this one.

Yes, specially for Krispats.
That decreases the chances for the Spurs to get any of those.

[BackHome]

Those bigs are what three to five years away from maybe making it into the NBA which is OK if Timmy is going to retire after yhis year? For me I want to draft someone who can start with the second unit and gives us something to help us win next year.

[AFBlue]

DX has a new scouting vid on Inglis. I have to admit, he's the guy I'd most like the Spurs to take at #30. Even if that's considered a reach at this point, this kid's unparalleled measurables and present skill-set (defense and rebounding) alone make him intriguing. Add to that the fact that he's one of the youngest prospects in the draft and the Spurs have an excellent track record with international players. I see a future starting SF tbqh...hope he stays in and the Spurs pull the trigger.

[stnick2261]

I don't think they'd take Ayres or Daye for those picks and that's all we have to offer. Don't think Philly gutted their team for those picks just to sell them off.

Who would you trade for those picks?

Yeah, I was thinking future conditional pick and/or one of our fringe players.


I dont think Krispats would be available at 30,regardless of how many spots he falls in mocks. Someone is gonna take a chance with this guy around the 20 pick.
Same goes for Bogdan, a few pick later.

That's why I had 5 guys listed (6 with Inglis), I would love to take any of them and would just love to take advantage if a good one drops to maybe get 2 of them.

[AFBlue]

Yeah, I was thinking future conditional pick and/or one of our fringe players

Picks in the 30s are pretty highly valued, so I doubt the Spurs could offer a conditional future pick as a value proposition...especially considering the depth of this particular draft and the likelihood the Spurs won't be picking in that range for at least a few more years.

I could see CoJo possibly, but even that's a stretch with Mills a FA and Joseph's overall value hard to gauge.

[BackHome]

DX has a new scouting vid on Inglis. I have to admit, he's the guy I'd most like the Spurs to take at #30. Even if that's considered a reach at this point, this kid's unparalleled measurables and present skill-set (defense and rebounding) alone make him intriguing. Add to that the fact that he's one of the youngest prospects in the draft and the Spurs have an excellent track record with international players. I see a future starting SF tbqh...hope he stays in and the Spurs pull the trigger.

Yeah I am thinking that is going to happen but I still think we need to move up in the second round by trading CoJo or our next years protected first round draft pick. First round get Bogdanovic Sg or Semaj Christon PG...then get Inglis early second pick.

[objective]

Draft combine this week will have hours of coverage on ESPNU, espn2, and nbatv, so set your DVRs

[99 Problems]

I'm big on the Bog man but I'm not sure what FO take is considering Beli/Manu/Bertans/LJC

[Baam]

I'm pretty confident they pick one of Dinwiddie/Bogdan/Payton if available...

We need someone who can create and be a plus defender at the same time... If they lose Green next summer then what...

I wouldn't mind if they traded for an early second rounder but I don't see anything that'd get us that kind of pick aside from Beli and Pop seems in love with him so I don't see it... Unless we lose to the Thunder, then all bets are off... What do you think Beli is worth? And Beli + our first?

I'd say Beli = 2 early second rounders
Beli + first = pick around 20

Also I note that the Suns have the 18th and 27th pick corresponding to Capela and Payton on DX, two players that could interest the Spurs a whole lot. And it's pretty clear that they don't want/can't really afford to keep all 3 first rounders...

[Captivus]

I want to see what PHI does, they could end up having a great team next season.
MCW will play better (?), Wiggins or Parker, Noel and another pick, maybe Saric. I do think they need a SG.
PHI fans have to be happy.
And on top of that, they have money to spend.

[BackHome]

Damn after watching this game today forget drafting the best player we need to draft the best SG.

[Captivus]

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[Captivus]

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[Richie]

LaQuinton Ross looks to have great size and can shoot the 3. Good option at #57

[Baam]

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Kid seems like he was made to play with Kawhi tbh...

Anyway the Spurs looking at guards and PGs in particular sounds good to me.

[Baam]

Damn that stache...

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If his injury heals properly he can be a massive steal.

[CGD]

The fact they are looking at two point guards makes me think the Spurs sense they'll lose Mills to another team's lucrative offer.

[CGD]

Players with expiring deals become free agents on July 1, 2014. The draft is a week before. Is it possible to sign-and-trade a soon to be free agent (e.g., Mills) on draft day as part of a draft-day trade?

[Chinook]

Players with expiring deals become free agents on July 1, 2014. The draft is a week before. Is it possible to sign-and-trade a soon to be free agent (e.g., Mills) on draft day as part of a draft-day trade?

Not completely. A team can extend-and-trade a player, but that wouldn't apply to Mills or Diaw. They could also theoretically agree to a trade involving a draft pick in June that would be finalized with a S&T in July. That's dicey, though.

[exstatic]

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Kid seems like he was made to play with Kawhi tbh...

Anyway the Spurs looking at guards and PGs in particular sounds good to me.

Can you IMAGINE the havoc that those two would play in the passing lanes? Payton is a fucking THIEF. He's basically a 6'4" Kawhi, complete with broke ass jumper, but WITH great PG skills, and 3 years of D1 basketball experience under his belt. He started school and spent most of his freshman year at 17, so he's only 20. Oh, and he also rebounds exceptionally for his position.

[BackHome]

Yeah if you cant find seven footers who play hard noised D then find other positions where they bring it. Would like him on our team for sure and would fit in nicely also think that Semaj Christon who is younger and plays some pretty dang good defense would be nice.

[BackHome]

Exstatic - How much would you be willing to give to gem....next years number one and maybe CoJo?

[exstatic]

Exstatic - How much would you be willing to give to gem....next years number one and maybe CoJo?

I would give up CoJo or any player not on our roster yet, plus our pick THIS year to go up to 18 or 19. Those would be the second picks of the first round for PHO and CHI.

[CGD]

Not completely. A team can extend-and-trade a player, but that wouldn't apply to Mills or Diaw. They could also theoretically agree to a trade involving a draft pick in June that would be finalized with a S&T in July. That's dicey, though.

Thanks, just curious.

[Joe Schmoogins]

The player I've had my eye on is Jordan Adams... I'd love to see him as a Spur. Sounds like he had a great 1st day at the combine yesterday, but then today he registers a poor 29.5" vert. Hopefully that creates enough doubt to let him fall to pick 30.

[exstatic]

DX has their new post combine mock draft up now. Big climber in the first was Zach Levine from 30 to 16. Having a sweet jumper and having your MAX vert test out at 41.5" will do that. Kyle Anderson dropped back from the teens to #23 after the combine tests. Not sure why anyone was surprised that a player with the nickname Slow Motion tested relatively poorly. :lol

The big climber in the second was Greek Freak II, from 58 to 40. He apparently had very good scrimmage workouts.

[Baam]

Knew that Thanasis had a great combine but damn that's a big jump for LaVine...

Capela fell to 19th... His team lost in the first round of the POs and he had a terrible game where he went 1 for 7... Still hoping he ends up in a tradable range...

Regarding Payton, few teams in the late first round need a PG... The Heat has 2 PGs and could gamble on center... OKc already has 3 PGs... The Suns start 2 PGs... The Clips are too small and need a wing or a big... If he makes it past Houston's pick then anything could happen... But someone would probably try to trade up for him if he starts falling...

Kyle Anderson is also back on my radar now that he fell, young Boris Diaw kind of skillset, could be very well be the playmaker replacing Manu... Diaw at center and Anderson at PF would produce some small ball porn for the ages...

[exstatic]

Knew that Thanasis had a great combine but damn that's a big jump for LaVine...

Capela fell to 19th... His team lost in the first round of the POs and he had a terrible game where he went 1 for 7... Still hoping he ends up in a tradable range...

Regarding Payton, few teams in the late first round need a PG... The Heat has 2 PGs and could gamble on center... OKc already has 3 PGs... The Suns start 2 PGs... The Clips are too small and need a wing or a big... If he makes it past Houston's pick then anything could happen... But someone would probably try to trade up for him if he starts falling...

Kyle Anderson is also back on my radar now that he fell, young Boris Diaw kind of skillset, could be very well be the playmaker replacing Manu... Diaw at center and Anderson at PF would produce some small ball porn for the ages...

The Heat have 2 PGs...that they're going to need to pay soon, and also try to maintain the Heatles. They could draft a PG to replace one of them. LeBron seems to have a man crush on Napier, though. They may go that direction just to make him happy.

[Baam]

Yep good point... Besides the Suns probably won't keep their pick so who knows...

[exstatic]

Yep good point... Besides the Suns probably won't keep their pick so who knows...

Another pick I see as possibly up for grab would be Chicago's second one. They're going to need every dollar of cap room to go after Melo, and they won't need two guaranteed rookie first round contracts on their books for players that Thibs likely won't play much.

I can absolutely see the Suns dumping one of their three first rounders, too. It's not as urgent as Chicago, but if they keep all three, they'll have to PAY all three at the same time, sort of an OKC dilemma.

[Mal]

Another pick I see as possibly up for grab would be Chicago's second one. They're going to need every dollar of cap room to go after Melo, and they won't need two guaranteed rookie first round contracts on their books for players that Thibs likely won't play much.


Chicago could draft Bogdanovic and stash him for a year.

[Uriel]

DraftExpress's latest mock has us drafting Mitch McGary at #30. I don't really see how this fits at all, considering his failed drug test (and the Spurs' proclivity for drafting high-character guys) and his position (which isn't really a pressing area of need right now).

[exstatic]

DraftExpress's latest mock has us drafting Mitch McGary at #30. I don't really see how this fits at all, considering his failed drug test (and the Spurs' proclivity for drafting high-character guys) and his position (which isn't really a pressing area of need right now).

Yeah, it's still early.

[exstatic]

Chicago could draft Bogdanovic and stash him for a year.

Even their late pick (#19) is almost a half round reach. He also has to agree not to come over. If he presses the issue, they either have to offer him a contract or renounce him.

[BackHome]

No way is Bogdanovic a first round -19th pick.

[pad300]

No way is Bogdanovic a first round -19th pick.

I hope he falls to us, but he quite possibly should be picked much higher (lottery). I could see 80-90% of prime ginobili statistically... He`s got all the tools offensively : can shoot - 37% from 3 in Euroleague, at 5.9 att/gm, he can pass - took over as primary ball handler and faciliator when the pg (Westermann) went down to injury, and he can drive. Physically he`s 6`6 with a 6`11 wingspan and a 8`8 standing reach with a 35`8 max vert 3 years ago... (Danny Green = 6`6.5 6`10 and 8`7 with a max vert of 33). He can defend, he`s tough and he`s agressive and he can lead. He brought that Partizan team to the final 16 of Euroleague, and in the process earned the Euroleague rising star trophy (best young player award) - the fifth-best scorer in the league with 14.78 points per game, fourth in steals (1.57 spg.), and eighth in fouls drawn (4 per game). In the domestic league, Bogdanovic led Partizan in scoring, assists (3.7 apg.), three-pointers made and fouls drawn. He was second in steals and fourth in rebounds (3.7 rpg). All this playing in pro leagues against adult men, not college kids...

[BackHome]

Well the Spurs should know him pretty good since he plays with Bertrans but no way on earth is he a lottery pick.

[bluebellmaniac]

Well the Spurs should know him pretty good since he plays with Bertrans but no way on earth is he a lottery pick.

I hope he's not selected early, I'd love for him to drop... or we could package our #30 with Ayres for a higher pick.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

The cavs won 1st overall, again! Lebrons exit gave them some crazy karma.

[exstatic]

The cavs won 1st overall, again! Lebrons exit gave them some crazy karma.

By jumping over Detroit, CLE cost the Pistons their pick. It was top 8 protected, and they got bumped to 9, so the pick conveys to Charlotte. :lol

[exstatic]

Oh, and LeBron is stupid if he stays in Miami to play with Bosh and Chief One Knee. He should ABSOLUTELY go back to Cleveland to play with Kyrie and Wiggins.

[Uriel]

Interesting. When DraftExpress had the Spurs drafting McGary at #30, I thought they were just speculating. But now, even Chad Ford of ESPN has us picking him in his latest mock draft. Could they have a team source that's feeding them information on who the Spurs are locked on? :stirpot:


30. Mitch McGary San Antonio Spurs (62 - 20)
COLLEGE: Michigan
HT: 6-10
WT: 250
POS: PF
With the possibility of Tim Duncan retiring, the Spurs are going to need some help in the paint. Had McGary not hurt his back this fall, he would've been a like lottery pick. If everything checks out OK, this could be another DeJuan Blair type get for them.

[Captivus]

Just in case someone missed it

The actual lottery.

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/draft/2014/05/20/052014-draft-lottery-behind-the-scenes.nba/index.html

[exstatic]

Interesting. When DraftExpress had the Spurs drafting McGary at #30, I thought they were just speculating. But now, even Chad Ford of ESPN has us picking him in his latest mock draft. Could they have a team source that's feeding them information on who the Spurs are locked on? :stirpot:

If the Spurs are feeding info, it's disinformation. Nothing ever gets out of their draft room, and they're VERY careful about their plans. They never even talked to, or interviewed Kawhi.

[Mal]

If the Spurs are feeding info, it's disinformation. Nothing ever gets out of their draft room, and they're VERY careful about their plans. They never even talked to, or interviewed Kawhi.

This. Spurs need backup PG, and they`ll try to push McGary, Early possibly Bogdanovic ahead of their true intention - Payton, maybe Napier

[Richie]

Not sure at all about McGary, don't see what he gives us that Baynes doesn't. No jump shot, not a shot blocker. I feel like there will be better options at #30 in this draft.

[eDizzle20]

The Spurs frontline will continue to be pretty deep in the future. I could see them going after a facilitator like Napier or even Bogdanovic going forward.

[yavozerb]

The spurs need to draft best player available regardless of position in my opinion. The #30 pick is more for the 2015-2016 season than it well be for next season simply cause next seasons roster well be about 75% full already for a team contending. This team has had this in mind for quite sometime hence the young euro's taken over the past couple drafts. Forget about position needs for next season with the coming draft and focus on the rebuilding of the spurs roster after next season.

[xmas1997]

I hope they combine some of their picks, #30 in 1st round and #'s 58 & 60 in 2nd round, for a higher 1st round pick, hopefully for a PF, SF/PF combo player, or a SG/SF combo player.

[SpursDynasty21]

Whoever the Spurs draft, hopefully it's someone who can play and make an impact. Someone who can make the team and play from the start.

[xmas1997]

Whoever the Spurs draft, hopefully it's someone who can play and make an impact. Someone who can make the team and play from the start.

I agree with that too, hence why I would hope they trade up in the draft.

[BackHome]

Yeah the idea of using CoJo in trade to move up to 19 keeps looking better and better. The question at 19 who would you want to pick?

[bluebellmaniac]

Whoever the Spurs draft, hopefully it's someone who can play and make an impact. Someone who can make the team and play from the start.

Whoever they draft will most likely not see action for at least one or two years. There will be 2 or at most 3 slots open if we re-sign Mills and Diaw. We'd have 3 open spots if we drop Daye, but the way he played, I see that as doubtful. I have Bertans penciled in for one of the slots...

[outmap]

Earley or Inglis at back-up SF and Tavares or Austin for our project big. :)

[Chinook]

As much as I believe in Joseph, I wouldn't mind trading him for the right price. The thing is, there isn't really a market for him. I don't know why people keep bringing his name up.

If the Spurs want to move up. The only pieces of value they have (who aren't in the rotation) would be Jean-Charles and Bertans. Maybe trading BOTH would get the Spurs 19. As for who I'd take there, maybe Capela? And then draft Inglis at 30? That would be a pretty decent draft from my vantage point.

[Baam]

Jean Charles was viewed as a reach so I don't know if he has that kind of value (better pick in a better draft)...

I doubt we can move up a lot... The Suns picks at 27 or an early second rounder could still be nice targets...

Getting Isaiah Austin early in the second round to compete with Ayres next season wouldn't suck...

I like Capela a lot but given his moneyball style of play the risks are kinda high, if he falls to 27 he would be such a steal tho... Gobert fell a lot last year.

[Shastafarian]

Not sure at all about McGary, don't see what he gives us that Baynes doesn't. No jump shot, not a shot blocker. I feel like there will be better options at #30 in this draft.

McGary has a jump shot. He actually developed quite good touch in the post too. As a late 1st round pick I think he'd be an excellent project.

[yavozerb]

The only player with any trade value that the spurs may consider trading is danny green. Sorry, just dont see the spurs moving him or anyone else so we might as well keep targeting players at #30.

[yavozerb]

McGary has a jump shot. He actually developed quite good touch in the post too. As a late 1st round pick I think he'd be an excellent project.

Agree. My #1 option of players who may be around at #30..

[xmas1997]

I like Glenn Robinson III, but he may be around at #30.

[stnick2261]

Yeah the idea of using CoJo in trade to move up to 19 keeps looking better and better. The question at 19 who would you want to pick?

If Clint Capela is still available at 19, I'd pull the trigger so quickly on this deal.

[Richie]

McGary has a jump shot. He actually developed quite good touch in the post too. As a late 1st round pick I think he'd be an excellent project.

I haven't seen him, but draftexpress disagrees with you. 67% ft up from 44% last year, 2/9 on jump shots. They aren't high on on his form and release either, don't see how he can play with Splitter long term.

[Shastafarian]

I haven't seen him, but draftexpress disagrees with you. 67% ft up from 44% last year, 2/9 on jump shots. They aren't high on on his form and release either, don't see how he can play with Splitter long term.
I have. He was a freshman so obviously he's not as polished as others. He's not one-and-done type talent but if you watch him you can see he has talent. He made some impressive jump shots and turnarounds in the tournament last year. At 30, he would be a good pick.

[jesterbobman]

I would point out that using freshman and sophomore when talking about McGary is a little silly. He'll be 22 at the time of the draft. Elfrid Payton is a Junior who is 20 months younger. McGary stills projects fine, and I could understand a team like the Clippers who have 0 bigs behind Jordan and Blake, but I'm not a fan of him over basically any of the Bogdan/Adams/Payton... group of wings and points projected around that area.

[Shastafarian]

He was a red-shirt freshman? I forget. Either way age is a good consideration. But I think with good coaching he could be all-star level in 3-4 years.

[AFBlue]

Don't see McGary if only for his injury history. The weed thing just casts additional doubt.

[AFBlue]

I have. He was a freshman so obviously he's not as polished as others. He's not one-and-done type talent but if you watch him you can see he has talent. He made some impressive jump shots and turnarounds in the tournament last year. At 30, he would be a good pick.

His J was going, as was his whole game, in that tourney. But that isn't enough of an indicator how he'll perform on the pro level. Bottom line: he's all projection and limited production with a questionable injury history.

I think there are other, better options at 30.

[AFBlue]

I still think it's Damien Inglis. He has curiously dropped off the map since his breakout, a la Jean-Charles last year.

[jesterbobman]

For stats focused people, Mitch is actually a decent pick. He averaged 9,8 and 2steals in 24minutes, which is pretty beastly. This model(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aipd_3kGfREgdHRtcThFd3ZtMlRPYldIRmdGb241R lE&usp=drive_web#gid=5) has him as the #11 prospect amongst College players by expected peak. That's really good for a #30 pick.

It just seems like the Wings are better prospects. Jordan Adams steal rate(Probably the #1 stats indicator) is bonkers, and he's 19. He's 3rd in the model above. Payton is 8th. Kyle Anderson(dreams again, but he's been dropping) is 2nd. Those guys might all be gone, which is understandable. As well as that, Bogdan, Porzingis, are more intriguing to me than Mitch, and while it is unlikely that they will all be available, the probability of 1 of them being there is decent.

[Richie]

I still think it's Damien Inglis. He has curiously dropped off the map since his breakout, a la Jean-Charles last year.

I love Inglis as a prospect. The kid is like Kawhi in '11 but a year younger, 15lbs heavier and with a more reliable 3 pointer. A genuine 2-4 defender, if Kawhi starts to handle the ball and create more on the offensive end we could play a Green-Kawhi-Inglis lineup with a pg and c that would be incredible defensively in small ball.

[yavozerb]

I would point out that using freshman and sophomore when talking about McGary is a little silly. He'll be 22 at the time of the draft. Elfrid Payton is a Junior who is 20 months younger. McGary stills projects fine, and I could understand a team like the Clippers who have 0 bigs behind Jordan and Blake, but I'm not a fan of him over basically any of the Bogdan/Adams/Payton... group of wings and points projected around that area.


I still think it's Damien Inglis. He has curiously dropped off the map since his breakout, a la Jean-Charles last year.


For stats focused people, Mitch is actually a decent pick. He averaged 9,8 and 2steals in 24minutes, which is pretty beastly. This model(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aipd_3kGfREgdHRtcThFd3ZtMlRPYldIRmdGb241R lE&usp=drive_web#gid=5) has him as the #11 prospect amongst College players by expected peak. That's really good for a #30 pick.

It just seems like the Wings are better prospects. Jordan Adams steal rate(Probably the #1 stats indicator) is bonkers, and he's 19. He's 3rd in the model above. Payton is 8th. Kyle Anderson(dreams again, but he's been dropping) is 2nd. Those guys might all be gone, which is understandable. As well as that, Bogdan, Porzingis, are more intriguing to me than Mitch, and while it is unlikely that they will all be available, the probability of 1 of them being there is decent.


I love Inglis as a prospect. The kid is like Kawhi in '11 but a year younger, 15lbs heavier and with a more reliable 3 pointer. A genuine 2-4 defender, if Kawhi starts to handle the ball and create more on the offensive end we could play a Green-Kawhi-Inglis lineup with a pg and c that would be incredible defensively in small ball.

There is a chance for players like saric, Nurkic, Capela, Inglis, and Porzingis to withdraw from the draft. Still could be alot of change to draft boards coming soon. As usual, everyone is scattered on what the spurs need and will do so it should be fun..

[xmas1997]

There is a chance for players like saric, Nurkic, Capela, Inglis, and Porzingis to withdraw from the draft. Still could be alot of change to draft boards coming soon. As usual, everyone is scattered on what the spurs need and will do so it should be fun..

This is true.
Looked at about 20 mock drafts and they are all different at #30, 58, and 60.

[CGD]

By way of recap, reports to date indicate Spurs have met/worked out the following prospective draftees:

Kyle Anderson (sf)
Shabazz Napier (pg)
Elfrid Payton (pg)
Joe Harris (pf) --- Wahoowa!
Walter Tavares (c)
Guillem Vives (pg)

Am I missings anyone?

[Baam]

Capela is 100% entering the draft. Inglis and Porzingis will probably take their names out of the draft tho.

[Uriel]

The only player with any trade value that the spurs may consider trading is danny green. Sorry, just dont see the spurs moving him or anyone else so we might as well keep targeting players at #30.
I can actually see the Spurs trading Danny Green, considering this is a contract year for him, and he's likely to get paid (similar to what they did with Hill). This draft is particularly loaded with talent at the top too, so it's not preposterous to think the front office could fall in love with someone.

Then again, if we win the title, they'll probably take the conservative route and not fix what ain't broke.

[CGD]

^ This is a good point. You have to think Danny will gets at least Kyle Korver money in his next contract, which iirc started around the 6M mark.

[Chinook]

Capela is 100% entering the draft. Inglis and Porzingis will probably take their names out of the draft tho.

Provided they don't get sufficient promises. I think Inglis stays in if the Spurs want him.

[Biggems]

Would Tavares be a good pick at 30? I haven't seen him play, but I have read up on him a little bit. He is a bit raw offensively. However, he has size (something that cannot be taught) and is a very nice presence in the post to block/altar shots, as well as rebound.

Since we missed out on Ennis last year, I would love to get a G/F in this draft, someone who can play the 2, 3, or 4 when needed. I know Ennis was too small to play the 4, but he would have been able to play 1-3 when called upon.

I would also like to get 2 bigs.

[CGD]

Would Tavares be a good pick at 30? I haven't seen him play, but I have read up on him a little bit. He is a bit raw offensively. However, he has size (something that cannot be taught) and is a very nice presence in the post to block/altar shots, as well as rebound.

Since we missed out on Ennis last year, I would love to get a G/F in this draft, someone who can play the 2, 3, or 4 when needed. I know Ennis was too small to play the 4, but he would have been able to play 1-3 when called upon.

I would also like to get 2 bigs.

I'm with you, I'd like for the team to draft size unless there is a great PG prospect at 30.

I fear Mills is taking a rich offer elsewhere this summer, and CoJo's inconsistency still worries me at the backup pg. The backup SF hole can be address in free agency (Shawn Marion, full MLE?). One of Bertans or Daye will occupy the stretch 4 role vacated by Bonner.

[Biggems]

I'm with you, I'd like for the team to draft size unless there is a great PG prospect at 30.

I fear Mills is taking a rich offer elsewhere this summer, and CoJo's inconsistency still worries me at the backup pg. The backup SF hole can be address in free agency (Shawn Marion, full MLE?). One of Bertans or Daye will occupy the stretch 4 role vacated by Bonner.


I actually wouldn't mind rolling the dice on Inglis at 30. He would have great chemistry with Parker and Diaw.

It would be sweet if CJ Fair could fall to us at 58. If that isn't a legit option, maybe trading the rights to both of our 2nd rounders for the rights to Fair when he gets drafted. But I do this only if we used 30 to draft a big. If, we used 30 for Inglis or another G/F, then we could try the same trade scenario to secure a big.

[Baam]

I don't see the point of drafting Inglis when they recently took Kawhi and Livio in the first round... They'd have to see a whole lot of potential there, I'd bet against it...

Regarding the idea of pulling a GHill with Green : to be worth it they'd have to get Capela and Bogdan imo... Getting the pieces to fill the void that's gonna be left by Tim and Manu could be worth it... Now don't get me wrong, Capela's absolute ceiling is Ibaka, you just can't replace Tim but you don't need to...

[xmas1997]

Provided they don't get sufficient promises. I think Inglis stays in if the Spurs want him.

Do you think they'll give Inglis a promise at #30?

[AFBlue]

I don't see the point of drafting Inglis when they recently took Kawhi and Livio in the first round... They'd have to see a whole lot of potential there, I'd bet against it.

You could probably play all three of those guys in a lineup together because of their athleticism and versatility. I don't know how they feel about him, but he just seems like a Spurs pick. If he stays in the draft, I almost guarantee the Spurs take him.

[bluebellmaniac]

If Mills, Diaw and Baynes are re-signed, we will have 13 players and only room for 2 more. The question becomes: Is anyone we draft going to be better than Bertans, LJC, Hanga? I suspect that we will either package our picks for something better or draft the best 'stash' player we have available at that pick. I strongly doubt we'd sign anyone we draft at #30 for next year.

Anticlimatic I know, but that is the reality that I perceive...

[objective]

Jason Whitlock did a podcast a couple of days ago with Brian Windhorst and Windhorst was brainstorming and speculating on IF the Cavs were willing to trade the #1 pick for an established all start or all star caliber player to get on with their rebuild, then who could they get was delved into. Besides Aldridge, he mentioned Kawhi Leonard. Part of the discussion was about lebron not being interested in going back to play with a rookie, but could be tempted to play with Irving plus a really good, young vet (like Leonard )

Seems the longest shoot in the world .. But for discussion's sake ... If the spurs win the title and Duncan retires, and if manu retired, then w would anyone be willing to move Leonard and something else, for the #1?

[Chinook]

Jason Whitlock did a podcast a couple of days ago with Brian Windhorst and Windhorst was brainstorming and speculating on IF the Cavs were willing to trade the #1 pick for an established all start or all star caliber player to get on with their rebuild, then who could they get was delved into. Besides Aldridge, he mentioned Kawhi Leonard. Part of the discussion was about lebron not being interested in going back to play with a rookie, but could be tempted to play with Irving plus a really good, young vet (like Leonard )

Seems the longest shoot in the world .. But for discussion's sake ... If the spurs win the title and Duncan retires, and if manu retired, then w would anyone be willing to move Leonard and something else, for the #1?

Yeah, probably. I'd do Kawhi and Splitter for the first pick, Varejao and another one of Cleveland's young players. But I wouldn't like it. Kawhi will probably end up being one of the top 10 player taken from 2010-2014. Quite a bird in the hand there.

[AFBlue]

Seems the longest shoot in the world .. But for discussion's sake ... If the spurs win the title and Duncan retires, and if manu retired, then w would anyone be willing to move Leonard and something else, for the #1?

You're basically asking if we think anyone in this draft has the potential to be greater than Kawhi. Obviously there's projection and risk with any choice, but I think there are two players worth that risk. One is Jabari Parker, the do-it-all forward who already has a polished all-around game, smarts, aggressiveness, and the drive/work ethic to continue getting better. The other is Joel Embiid. While he's admittedly riskier, the present defensive skill set, size, athleticism and potential as a two-way big man are hard to ignore.

[CGD]

Yeah, in this draft you have to make the Leonard move for the first even if the big three stick around another season. No brainer as much as I like Leonard.

[bluebellmaniac]

Makes me think about the comment I heard during one of the recent playoff games. It was an ex-Spur and stated that on draft night they have two lists of players on the wall of the Spur's war room. One is labelled Not A Spur, the other Could Be A Spur. Before anyone starts throwing packages of Kawhi and others at teams, consider that the list of Could Be A Spur is probably a pretty short list. Even for the top 7 picks, you'd probably only have a couple of those names on it, if that.

Pop states 'They need to get over themselves' a lot. There's a reason why we go with so many international players, it's easier for them to get over themself. How long, if ever, would it take for the top draftees in this year's draft to 'get over themselves'?

[Baam]

The top 3 all seem pretty Spursy tbh...

Only way they'd trade Kawhi is for Embiid, to get another 10 to 15 years of another great franchise big, the hardest thing to get in the NBA... But I don't see any team biting on such an offer tho so to me it's moot... And there's the back concerns as well... Crackpot scenario : Embiid slips like Noel last year due to his injury and the Spurs trade for him at 5 (Jazz pick)... Kawhi is probably as good as Jrue Holiday but Embiid has the potential to be way better than Noel...

[Richie]

Nobody is taking Kawhi for Embiid, he's too much of an franchise changing prospect. Honestly I doubt Kawhi could net us a top 4 pick in this draft.

I think Inglis takes his name out unless hes a first rounder. I love the prospect of he and Kawhi playing together small at the 3-4 or big at the 2-3.

I'm not sure if the Spurs do promises, I suspect his agent would make it known to other teams and he'd get taken before us based on that fact alone.

[Baam]

The Spurs do promises for sure, Livio didn't do any individual workout after the hoop summit so he had a promise...

[exstatic]

Nobody is taking Kawhi for Embiid, he's too much of an franchise changing prospect. Honestly I doubt Kawhi could net us a top 4 pick in this draft.

I think Inglis takes his name out unless hes a first rounder. I love the prospect of he and Kawhi playing together small at the 3-4 or big at the 2-3.

I'm not sure if the Spurs do promises, I suspect his agent would make it known to other teams and he'd get taken before us based on that fact alone.
Spurs do make deals. I'm pretty sure they gave Mahinmi a promise to get him to skip the Nike Hoop Summit. They might not in a draft like this, though. A real good player could fall.

Most guys who feel they need a promise are borderline first rounders anyway. They're not likely to move up much, if any, based on leaking the promise, and that agent would likely never get another promise for a client again if that's how he operates.

[Baam]

With teams seeing the ridiculous impact of Ibaka I guess Capela's stock will rise and he could make it in the top 15...

I'd be more than happy with Kyle "slim Diaw" Anderson and Bogdanovic tbh...

I also think that no matter what happens Splitter's stock went up so he could definitely be a valuable asset for a trade... The Suns need a center...

Trade proposal : Splitter + Beli for Len + Green + Smith + 14th and 27th pick

The Suns start 2 PG so Beli as the third guard would make perfect sense for them...

We use the picks on Capela at 14, a slipping Anderson at 27 and Bogdan at 30... Then I wake up.

[AFBlue]

With teams seeing the ridiculous impact of Ibaka I guess Capela's stock will rise and he could make it in the top 15...

I'd be more than happy with Kyle "slim Diaw" Anderson and Bogdanovic tbh...

I also think that no matter what happens Splitter's stock went up so he could definitely be a valuable asset for a trade... The Suns need a center...

Trade proposal : Splitter + Beli for Len + Green + Smith + 14th and 27th pick

The Suns start 2 PG so Beli as the third guard would make perfect sense for them...

We use the picks on Capela at 14, a slipping Anderson at 27 and Bogdan at 30... Then I wake up.

Not enough roster spots to pull off that trade tbqh. Plus, I don't think Splitter nets you two first rounders in this draft, let alone that plus a former top-5 pick and player who had a breakout year.

[Richie]

With teams seeing the ridiculous impact of Ibaka I guess Capela's stock will rise and he could make it in the top 15...

I'd be more than happy with Kyle "slim Diaw" Anderson and Bogdanovic tbh...

I also think that no matter what happens Splitter's stock went up so he could definitely be a valuable asset for a trade... The Suns need a center...

Trade proposal : Splitter + Beli for Len + Green + Smith + 14th and 27th pick

The Suns start 2 PG so Beli as the third guard would make perfect sense for them...

We use the picks on Capela at 14, a slipping Anderson at 27 and Bogdan at 30... Then I wake up.

I want some of what you're smoking. That's one of the most lopsided trades I've ever seen, the Suns aren't giving up either pick for Splitter and Beli, let alone both and two key players.

[eDizzle20]

I doubt the Spurs make a significant trade in the upcoming draft. Outside of the big 4 most the Spurs players are system players. I hope the Spurs consider San Antonio native Jordan Clarkson (PG/SG). He had a very good year at Missouri and also had a great showing at the combine.

[AFBlue]

I doubt the Spurs make a significant trade in the upcoming draft. Outside of the big 4 most the Spurs players are system players.

A trade is highly doubtful, but possible. If Splitter nets you a top-15 pick in this draft you have to consider it.


I hope the Spurs consider San Antonio native Jordan Clarkson (PG/SG). He had a very good year at Missouri and also had a great showing at the combine.

If he's around at the end of the second, I wouldn't be surprised.

[xmas1997]

Since we have a pretty good C in Tiago, I think the priority is getting a defensive minded SG/SF or SF/PF.

[pad300]

In this draft, would SAS contemplate the following pick trades:

SAS 2015 first, SAS 2104 2nd (#60), and SAS 2014 2nd (#58) for
MIL 2014 2nd (#31) and MIL 2014 2nd (#36)

or

SAS 2015 first, SAS 2104 2nd (#60), and SAS 2014 2nd (#58) for
PHI 2014 2nd (#32) and PHI 2014 2nd (#39)

Do you think either PHI or MIL would contemplate such a trade?

[AFBlue]

In this draft, would SAS contemplate the following pick trades:

SAS 2015 first, SAS 2104 2nd (#60), and SAS 2014 2nd (#58) for
MIL 2014 2nd (#31) and MIL 2014 2nd (#36)

or

SAS 2015 first, SAS 2104 2nd (#60), and SAS 2014 2nd (#58) for
PHI 2014 2nd (#32) and PHI 2014 2nd (#39)

Do you think either PHI or MIL would contemplate such a trade?

Both teams are in rebuilding mode, so I think they're less likely to surrender picks in this currently deep draft for future considerations.

[bluebellmaniac]

In this draft, would SAS contemplate the following pick trades:

SAS 2015 first, SAS 2104 2nd (#60), and SAS 2014 2nd (#58) for
MIL 2014 2nd (#31) and MIL 2014 2nd (#36)

or

SAS 2015 first, SAS 2104 2nd (#60), and SAS 2014 2nd (#58) for
PHI 2014 2nd (#32) and PHI 2014 2nd (#39)

Do you think either PHI or MIL would contemplate such a trade?

And those early second rounders are worth gold...

[objective]

If the spurs decide to blow it up after a possible Duncan retirement, then Sacramento being willing to deal #8 is a possibility.

Splitter for the junk contracts of Thompson and Williams, when neither is good enough to be a starter, and the #8. Gives the kings a center to pair with cousins at pf.

Maybe this post should be in the trade thread, but I was just curious as to who would be available at #8 that would be worth moving splitter for, provided of course that Sacramento would be interested.

[Richie]

If the spurs decide to blow it up after a possible Duncan retirement, then Sacramento being willing to deal #8 is a possibility.

Splitter for the junk contracts of Thompson and Williams, when neither is good enough to be a starter, and the #8. Gives the kings a center to pair with cousins at pf.

Maybe this post should be in the trade thread, but I was just curious as to who would be available at #8 that would be worth moving splitter for, provided of course that Sacramento would be interested.

No chance Splitter nets us a lottery pick in this draft. Also his contract gets cheaper year on year, he's a good asset to keep IMO.

[Richie]

I wonder if anyone might like the look of Cory enough to give up a second rounder for him?

Bucks or Sixers might give up #36 or #39 for him. For the sixers its their 4th pick, gotta wonder if they really want to pickup 4 rookies in a single year.

[Chinook]

The Spurs need to keep Joseph until after free agency begins. Mills may well leave in July, and the Spurs don't want to break in a new backup PG.

[Biggems]

I want some of what you're smoking. That's one of the most lopsided trades I've ever seen, the Suns aren't giving up either pick for Splitter and Beli, let alone both and two key players.

He said then he woke up..............he obviously wasn't making too serious of a post.

[Richie]

The Spurs need to keep Joseph until after free agency begins. Mills may well leave in July, and the Spurs don't want to break in a new backup PG.

Possibly, but Spurs could look to agree a deal with Mills beforehand and roll the dice on him keeping his word, I doubt he will be in incredibly high demand. If there are two players in that area that the Spurs like then it could be worth it, Bogdanovic and Inglis for example.

[BackHome]

People need to shut up about the Kawhi and Splitter trade that is just plain stupid. As far as Green or Cory that is in the realm of possibility and I would have no problems trading Phil....high second round pick for Cory. We could get a good bench player in the first round and then draft a big or Inglis and stash that player.

[Baam]

Green is useful in every series, Splitter on the other hand will only be useful in half the series... Nothing retarded about moving him...

Whatever they need to do to draft Anderson they better do it, a young Diaw mentored by Pop could be a franchise player tbqh... I want him even more badly than Capela.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I like Anderson. I think the spurs need another diaw. If Bonner is a gonner and bertans has question marks. I think the most important piece is another big that can pass, cut, and spread the floor to make Splitters life easier.

[Richie]

Green is useful in every series, Splitter on the other hand will only be useful in half the series... Nothing retarded about moving him...

Whatever they need to do to draft Anderson they better do it, a young Diaw mentored by Pop could be a franchise player tbqh... I want him even more badly than Capela.

But in the series he's useful, he's indispensable. We wouldn't beat Dallas or Memphis without him, and the Portland series would have gone much longer without length to put on Aldridge.

In fact, the only series where Splitter isn't pivotal is the Heat and Thunder. We'd need him against the Pacers, Clippers and Rockets too.

He also buys Tim a lot of rest throughout the season too.

[Richie]

I like Anderson. I think the spurs need another diaw. If Bonner is a gonner and bertans has question marks. I think the most important piece is another big that can pass, cut, and spread the floor to make Splitters life easier.

Anderson isn't another diaw yet, he's too skinny to play the role that Boris plays for us as a combo forward. I'd also happily bring Bonner back for the vet min next year.

[xmas1997]

Anderson isn't another diaw yet, he's too skinny to play the role that Boris plays for us as a combo forward. I'd also happily bring Bonner back for the vet min next year.

Yes, as shown in the OKC series, Bonner spreads the floor and keeps Ibaka away from the rim, as does Diaw.

[playblair]

Cleanthony Early Bryce Cotton & Patric Young will work out for the spurs this week

[BackHome]

Green is useful in every series, Splitter on the other hand will only be useful in half the series... Nothing retarded about moving him...

Whatever they need to do to draft Anderson they better do it, a young Diaw mentored by Pop could be a franchise player tbqh... I want him even more badly than Capela.

Dude if the other teams man ups on Green he can't do shit cause he can't dribble the ball..ie.Matt Bonner on offense.

[Chinook]

^Yeah, Green gets completely shut down when the team game-plans to stop him. Most other three-and-D role-players go for 20/10 against James.

[AFBlue]

Cleanthony Early Bryce Cotton & Patric Young will work out for the spurs this week

Young would be a good value pick at the tail end of the second round...size, athleticism, intelligence, work ethic and present defensive skill set make him a pretty safe pick with role player potential.

I don't know about Early as the first round pick. He can flat out score the ball and has excellent athleticism, but the rest of his game is lacking, he'd be transitioning to full time SF, and he's one of the oldest in the class.

[elemento]

I think SA goes with Porzings if he is still available with the 30th pick. Otherwise, I'd say Inglis.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I like Young. If a player is big 3 caliber, on a team with a coach like Donovan. I think they're nba material. I'd take Yegette, too.

[bluebellmaniac]

I think we go strictly international because our picks will need to be stashed. I think the only international pick that could come over right away would be Bogdan. Otherwise, I think every other pick will be 20 yrs old or under.

[BackHome]

Heck 20 or younger is the age most top five guys in every draft.

[AFBlue]

I think we go strictly international because our picks will need to be stashed. I think the only international pick that could come over right away would be Bogdan. Otherwise, I think every other pick will be 20 yrs old or under.

Spurs do have three picks. I'd be surprised if they went International across the board. A guy like Young who could be a decent role player in the future shouldn't be discounted.

[Baam]

There's a new video of Elfrid Payton on DX, sounds like a great kid tbh, nothing to dislike about him, would be a great fit here...

On the other hand someone like Dinwiddie who I think could be a steal as well sounds like Kobe in interviews, quite the turn-off...

Clint Capela
Elfrid Payton
Kyle Anderson
Bogdan Bogdanovic

All 4 seems to be both spursy and very promising, they're the clearly above the rest of the pack for our first round pick imo, it'd even hard to choose between them but then again we'd be lucky to have even one falling to 30...

Just to kill time, here are the team most likely to cockblock us and steal these guys in my estimation :
Payton -> Chicago, defensive minded team who needs a PG
Anderson -> Rockets, could use a slim Diaw to play small next to Howard
Bodgan -> OKC at 29 lol, they need a SG and Presti could see some Manu there
Capela -> Too many teams could use that kind of player tbh...

[Uriel]

Having a better overall record than OKC is really great for the playoffs when get HCA against them. But it sucks knowing that they'll be picking immediately before us in the draft. Who knows what Presti will have up his sleeve to nab talent the Spurs have been eye-ing.

[xmas1997]

Having a better overall record than OKC is really great for the playoffs when get HCA against them. But it sucks knowing that they'll be picking immediately before us in the draft. Who knows what Presti will have up his sleeve to nab talent the Spurs have been eye-ing.

This is true. The Spurs really have to do the CIA Pop thing since Presti picks right before us. And even then he can probably give a pretty good guess as to who we want.

[KawhiLeonard]

I hope Mitch mcgary falls to 30 but I doubt rc would draft him even tho he is going to be a serviceable big

[SpursBills]

There's a new video of Elfrid Payton on DX, sounds like a great kid tbh, nothing to dislike about him, would be a great fit here...

On the other hand someone like Dinwiddie who I think could be a steal as well sounds like Kobe in interviews, quite the turn-off...

Clint Capela
Elfrid Payton
Kyle Anderson
Bogdan Bogdanovic

All 4 seems to be both spursy and very promising, they're the clearly above the rest of the pack for our first round pick imo, it'd even hard to choose between them but then again we'd be lucky to have even one falling to 30...

Just to kill time, here are the team most likely to cockblock us and steal these guys in my estimation :
Payton -> Chicago, defensive minded team who needs a PG
Anderson -> Rockets, could use a slim Diaw to play small next to Howard
Bodgan -> OKC at 29 lol, they need a SG and Presti could see some Manu there
Capela -> Too many teams could use that kind of player tbh...

I'm a huge fan of Payton too, but unfortunately it looks like the dude is starting to shoot up everybody's draft boards into the late teens-early twenties.

[Captivus]

This is true. The Spurs really have to do the CIA Pop thing since Presti picks right before us. And even then he can probably give a pretty good guess as to who we want.

Of OKC picks taking into account what the Spurs might do..then...well...even better.
I dont think OKC is gonna pick a player they dont like just to cause the Spurs to change theirs.

[Baam]

473534047503650817

Kinda interesting as no one really knew much about him, currently an early second rounder on DX... Pop (and Becky if she comes back) love Russia... There's definitely an opening for a big who can shoot to replace Ayres and even Baynes maybe...

[BackHome]

Russian players scare US teams they don't come over much so I would stay away from him.

[objective]

The DX report on him makes him sound terribly unimpressive. A mediocre rebounding big without remarkable offense or defense who can't play his way out of the second division in Russia.

Sounds like another Karaulov, especially that second division part.

[Baam]

I actually agree that there isn't anything really compelling about him... He's no Nurkic but then again Nurkic won't make it to 30...

[TheCerebral1]

I think we go strictly international because our picks will need to be stashed. I think the only international pick that could come over right away would be Bogdan. Otherwise, I think every other pick will be 20 yrs old or under.

I love Efrid Payton the more I've watched. There's just something about his game. If he fell, I'd be screaming at Buford to make the call. I love Patric Young in the second round, as I do with Spencer Dinwiddie, Bagdanovic, Micic, Anteokounmpo, Inglis, DeAndre Daniels, Semaj Christon. Pozingis seems like a Spurs pick, though I know nothing about him. Clint Capela would be an interesting pick. Is it just me, but I want nothing to do with Mitch McGary.

[playblair]

Travis Bader has worked out for the spurs (ncaa 3 point record holder) could be a mills replacement if mills signs elsewhere.........................

Cam Clark will workout for the spurs this week

[bluebellmaniac]

Travis Bader has worked out for the spurs (ncaa 3 point record holder) could be a mills replacement if mills signs elsewhere.........................

Cam Clark will workout for the spurs this week


With the draft about 3 weeks away, I would think we have a pretty good idea of our most desired options. It just feels like any workouts at this point is more about CIA Pop throwing the scent off the trail and trying to elevate the stock of those who we really are not sold upon. Have the other teams desire who they think we want kind of stuff...

[AFBlue]

Haven't heard a single thing out of Inglis since the Hoop Summit, where he flashed some decent skills and crazy measurables. Unless he decides to withdraw, he's the guy at #30 guaranteed.

[yavozerb]

Haven't heard a single thing out of Inglis since the Hoop Summit, where he flashed some decent skills and crazy measurables. Unless he decides to withdraw, he's the guy at #30 guaranteed.

Agree..I would have no problem if the spurs invest a late 1st on this kid. Now if only we could get him playing on tp's french team..

[Uriel]

Haven't heard a single thing out of Inglis since the Hoop Summit, where he flashed some decent skills and crazy measurables. Unless he decides to withdraw, he's the guy at #30 guaranteed.
I don't see why we would need to draft another SF after LJC last year. For all we know, it was Presti that gave him a promise.

[Uriel]

Agree..I would have no problem if the spurs invest a late 1st on this kid. Now if only we could get him playing on tp's french team..
From NBADraft.net's profile of Ingliis:

"As highlighted by Michael Visenberg during the Hoop Summit, his focus and attitude are a red flag, which limit his consistency during games ... His bad body language and poor determination could really limit his appeal, despite he possessing first round talent."

That doesn't sound like a Spur to me.

[Baam]

I don't see why we would need to draft another SF after LJC last year. For all we know, it was Presti that gave him a promise.

That's a great point, Inglis has a freak body that fits the Thunder drafting style, and he could defend the stronger combo forwards like Boris and Lebron, something Durant struggles with... Then again he's far from ready and the clock is kinda ticking for the Thunder but I could see it on paper...

[Baam]

An interesting guy, for the second rounders if he's there :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX5Gch--V2E

Ronald Roberts, said to be one of the elite athletes in this draft... Only listed at 6"8 with very limited skills tho while being 22 already. But still if you could teach him some post moves and how to shoot even passably, that'd be an intriguing option...

The article that made me aware of this guy :

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/ronald-roberts-jr-nba-draft/



Roberts can’t even imagine counting how much time he spent refining his game with assistant coach Dave Duda.
“They spent hours watching tape,” Martelli says. “Ron was willing to listen to the criticism, to accept it as coaching and not to see it as a personal attack—which is rare among today’s players—and then he was willing to put in hour, upon hour, upon hour working, whether it be through film or on the court taking baby steps so he could sprint now and be considered a professional prospect.”


Seems 110% like a Spurs kinda guy, maybe I'm overreacting but he seems to be such a perfect fit as a project big... He'd be our poor's man Capela.

[Uriel]

Interesting. When DraftExpress had the Spurs drafting McGary at #30, I thought they were just speculating. But now, even Chad Ford of ESPN has us picking him in his latest mock draft. Could they have a team source that's feeding them information on who the Spurs are locked on?
First DraftExpress. Then ESPN. Now even Sports Illustrated has us picking Mitch McGary at #30. This can't be mere coincidence, can it? :stirpot:


San Antonio Spurs -- Mitch McGary, PF, Michigan, 6-10, 250
McGary showcased lottery talent during the 2012-2013 season, particularly during a strong NCAA tournament showing. A back injury wiped out most of last season, but McGary elected to go pro rather than face a possible season-long suspension for a positive drug test (marijuana, according to McGary). At his best, McGary is a high-energy player who rebounds, runs the floor and finishes at the rim. He's also an excellent screener with good pick-and-roll potential. He's a low risk/high reward pick for a team that needs young frontcourt help.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20140604/nba-mock-draft-joel-embiid-andrew-wiggins-dante-exum/#ixzz33g4rOua1

[eDizzle20]

First DraftExpress. Then ESPN. Now even Sports Illustrated has us picking Mitch McGary at #30. This can't be mere coincidence, can it? :stirpot:

[B]

I don't think any of the analysts have any sort of insider information. When you look at McGary though you have guy that can do multiple things well and most importantly he has a high basketball IQ. With the Spurs having 3 bigs (Baynes, Diaw, and Bonner) entering free agency this offseason and the uncertainty of Tim's retirement it makes sense. If McGary's back checks out okay I think he would be a steal assuming he falls to the Spurs pick.

[bluebellmaniac]

Any idea of what exactly was wrong with Mitch's back? I can find the stories that state he hurt his back, but none state exactly what is wrong with it.

[playblair]

Cameron Bairstow will workout for spurs on friday

[xmas1997]

I think Mitch will go sooner than #30 tbh.

[BackHome]

From NBADraft.net's profile of Ingliis:

"As highlighted by Michael Visenberg during the Hoop Summit, his focus and attitude are a red flag, which limit his consistency during games ... His bad body language and poor determination could really limit his appeal, despite he possessing first round talent."

That doesn't sound like a Spur to me.

Uriel: - I would not use Draft Net for international players I would look at Draft Express:

On the plus side, Inglis is the sixth youngest player in our Top-100 right now, not turning 19 for another few weeks. It's safe to say he has plenty of room to grow still, and looks like someone who will reach his potential based on what we know about his character and work ethic. Inglis left his home country of French Guiana (a small country just north of Brazil) when he was only 13 years old, and is clearly very mature for his age. Unlike some international prospects, he speaks very good English and there are no question marks about his desire to play in the NBA. He also has a comfortable buyout and the flexibility to either come over right away or stay for another year in Europe if need be. All those things combined leave a lot of room for optimism regarding his situation and should help him if he decides to keep his name in the draft.


From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz33iakkuIN (http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz33iakkuIN)
http://www.draftexpress.com

[AFBlue]

I don't see why we would need to draft another SF after LJC last year. For all we know, it was Presti that gave him a promise.

LJC is a PF. Could be Presti, but it's just my hunch. Under the radar, young, international...seems a lot like a Spurs pick.

[exstatic]

Inglis is not attending the Eurocamp. Asking players to skip events is VERY in keeping with Spurs strategy. Mahinmi and LJC both did.

He would also be a bit of a reach, like LJC was. LJC was rated 35 by DX and we picked him at 28. Inglis is currently rated 39 by DX and we are picking 30.

[Redshadows]

I like Porzingis, but I don't think Spurs could get him.

[stnick2261]

Pretty soon the way to increase draft stock will be to have a good showing, leak something about the Spurs, and then drop off the map so everyone thinks you have a promise.

[Drom John]

Did Batum attend pre-draft events?

[Uriel]

Pretty soon the way to increase draft stock will be to have a good showing, leak something about the Spurs, and then drop off the map so everyone thinks you have a promise.
:lol

[Baam]

Pretty soon the way to increase draft stock will be to have a good showing, leak something about the Spurs, and then drop off the map so everyone thinks you have a promise.

Inglis didn't even have a good showing at the hoop summit unlike Livio.

Could just withdraw from the draft this year, he still has plenty of time :

April 7: NCAA Final Four Championship (Arlington, Texas)
April 9: NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee Application Deadline
April 14: NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee Response Deadline
April 15: NCAA Early Entry “Withdrawal” Deadline
April 27: NBA Draft Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 pm ET)
May 2: NBA Draft Early Entry Candidates Released – Underclassmen Contact Permitted
May 14-18: NBA Draft Combine (Chicago)
May 20: NBA Draft Lottery
June 16: NBA Draft Early Entry Withdrawal Deadline (5:00 pm ET)
June 26: 2014 NBA Draft

[playblair]

474597324879331328
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[Baam]

Definitely my favorite player of the confirmed workouts, seems like he has the potential to be a lot better than Early down the line... Still I'm not sure about using the first on a SF...

[Mr. Body]

Inglis is not attending the Eurocamp. Asking players to skip events is VERY in keeping with Spurs strategy. Mahinmi and LJC both did.

He would also be a bit of a reach, like LJC was. LJC was rated 35 by DX and we picked him at 28. Inglis is currently rated 39 by DX and we are picking 30.

The Spurs often like to lock international players (especially) into late first round rates, don't they? Reaching there isn't bad in their estimation.

[Mr. Body]

McGary will likely go earlier, as others have said. I like him as a high-energy bench guy. He's mobile with skills, big, and relentlessly energetic. The type of guy who gets under other players' skins. All good things.

[Richie]

This has got to be a can't miss draft for us. There will almost certainly be useful players available at #30, we just need to find them. A good pick here could give us a vital role player for our rebuild

[AFBlue]

474597324879331328
:hungry::clap

474589538988216321

Is that the second confirmed workout for Early? Seems he was worked out with Young just a few days ago right?

If so, that's interesting. Good scorer and athlete, but the rest of his game is lacking. And he's already almost 23 I think.

As for the workout itself, that's a pretty impressive grouping. I wonder if the Spurs are looking to trade up in the second.

[AFBlue]

This has got to be a can't miss draft for us. There will almost certainly be useful players available at #30, we just need to find them. A good pick here could give us a vital role player for our rebuild

Agree...fortunately the Spurs have a pretty good track record.

[AFBlue]

McGary will likely go earlier, as others have said. I like him as a high-energy bench guy. He's mobile with skills, big, and relentlessly energetic. The type of guy who gets under other players' skins. All good things.

Would rather the Spurs stay away from him tbqh...injuries and drugs not good things. If you're looking for a high energy and IQ big, I'd go with Patric Young.

[Baam]

Two interesting links for people who wants to looks at some stats analysis :

http://apbr.org/metrics/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8472

and his twitter :

https://twitter.com/VJL_bball

While it's obviously only a fraction of what you need to look at it's still interesting.

[exstatic]

Did Batum attend pre-draft events?

No, and in fact they leaked fake medical issues. Portland bit anyway.

[exstatic]

Inglis didn't even have a good showing at the hoop summit unlike Livio.

Could just withdraw from the draft this year, he still has plenty of time :

April 7: NCAA Final Four Championship (Arlington, Texas)
April 9: NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee Application Deadline
April 14: NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee Response Deadline
April 15: NCAA Early Entry “Withdrawal” Deadline
April 27: NBA Draft Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 pm ET)
May 2: NBA Draft Early Entry Candidates Released – Underclassmen Contact Permitted
May 14-18: NBA Draft Combine (Chicago)
May 20: NBA Draft Lottery
June 16: NBA Draft Early Entry Withdrawal Deadline (5:00 pm ET)
June 26: 2014 NBA Draft

His team dropped to the French second division for next year. Not a good competitive level.

I don't think an average or even a bad NH summit would put the Spurs off.

[AFBlue]

Inglis didn't even have a good showing at the hoop summit unlike Livio.

Could just withdraw from the draft this year, he still has plenty of time

He didn't have a breakout showing like Livio, but he'd already shown enough before the game...namely his 6'8 250lb 19yr old frame with a 7'3 wingspan. As for his scouting report, you can count on the Spurs to have read up.

You're right that he could still withdraw. And if he does then he was just testing the waters. But don't you think he'd be more visible if he was trying to gauge his value? Just seems like a CIA Spurs move tbqh.

[eDizzle20]

If Inglis is available at #30 they would probably have a very difficult time passing him up. The Spurs have had great success with French players, and with Tony and Boris already on the team they most likely have knowledge of Inglis' skills already. It is also hard to pass up a guy that is as big Lebron with a longer wingspan that has great mobility. Kawhi has been a great example at how important it is to have someone that can guard multiple positions. Inglis would even have the potential to guard 1-4, and with the talent of SG's and SF's in the game today his size would be welcome. If the Spurs were able to get Inglis and Bogdanovic in this draft I would be impressed. They may have to trade something like next year's first rounder, but this draft is so deep it would be well worth it.

[Baam]

Porzingis got a promise from Presti according to Chad Ford.

[Baam]

Interesting article on Walter Tavares, seems like he started playing bball extremely late, didn't know that, makes him a lot more intriguing :

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--7-foot-3-prospect-walter-tavares-to-travel-to-u-s--to-work-out-for-teams-183854588.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--7-foot-3-prospect-walter-tavares-to-travel-to-u-s--to-work-out-for-teams-183854588.html)

[AFBlue]

Just saw the DX vid on Glenn Robinson III...pretty impressive kid. He sounded very professional and intelligent...said he models his game after Kawhi (and P. George), and mentioned his ability to play in a system like the Spurs run. His shot looked solid, which is his biggest opportunity for improvement. If Inglis withdraws, I could see the Spurs drafting this kid.

[Mr. Body]

Just saw the DX vid on Glenn Robinson III...pretty impressive kid. He sounded very professional and intelligent...said he models his game after Kawhi (and P. George), and mentioned his ability to play in a system like the Spurs run. His shot looked solid, which is his biggest opportunity for improvement. If Inglis withdraws, I could see the Spurs drafting this kid.

How did things end with his dad, out of curiosity?

[BackHome]

Just saw the DX vid on Glenn Robinson III...pretty impressive kid. He sounded very professional and intelligent...said he models his game after Kawhi (and P. George), and mentioned his ability to play in a system like the Spurs run. His shot looked solid, which is his biggest opportunity for improvement. If Inglis withdraws, I could see the Spurs drafting this kid.

Liked him until DX said he is the worst rebounder of the top 100 SF

[exstatic]

Liked him until DX said he is the worst rebounder of the top 100 SF

Yeah, the Spurs kind of value that.

[Uriel]

Can anyone with ESPN Insider please post whom Chad Ford has the Spurs picking in his Mock Draft 7.0? Thanks. :toast

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/mock/?season=2014&version=7&sourceId=1

[Baam]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2092657-chad-ford-nba-mock-draft-2014-notable-picks-from-espn-gurus-7th-mock

[Baam]

He has Anderson at 30 which would be a dream for me but I don't believe it's realistic at all. Teams picking much higher like the Hawks have asked Anderson to come for multiple workouts...

I'm more and more convinced we should gamble on Dinwiddie, his character doesn't scream Spurs but he's the perfect combo guard to replace Mills and take Beli's minutes, lots of upside, can pass and shoot the 3 from day one...

[Baam]

Wow DX has Anderson down to 25 as well, kinda getting my hopes up...

[Uriel]

Thanks! Kyle Anderson, though? That's new.

[eDizzle20]

I'd be very surprised if Kyle Anderson fell to 30. He would be a no brainer. Even though he is not the quickest or most athletic his skill set and length makes up for it. You basically have a 6'9" point guard. He would create so many mismatches. You could basically have Anderson, Kawhi, and Danny at 1, 2, and 3.

[Uriel]

I'd be very surprised if Kyle Anderson fell to 30. He would be a no brainer. Even though he is not the quickest or most athletic his skill set and length makes up for it. You basically have a 6'9" point guard. He would create so many mismatches. You could basically have Anderson, Kawhi, and Danny at 1, 2, and 3.

He sounds like a Boris Diaw clone.

[Uriel]

Someone with ESPN Insider please post. Thanks.


Will Kyle Anderson drop to Spurs?
By Joe Kaiser | June 10, 2014 1:32:16 PM PDT


Boris Diaw is due to become an unrestricted free agent on July 1, and one has to believe the San Antonio Spurs will attempt to re-sign the key veteran point forward.


Another option for the Spurs could be finding Diaw's replacement via the draft, because UCLA sophomore Kyle Anderson might be the closest thing to Diaw the league has seen in a long time.


But will Anderson be available when the Spurs make their pick at No. 30? Here's the latest on that.

http://espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nbarumors&id=27070&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.googl e.com.ph%2F%22%7D

[bluebellmaniac]

Someone with ESPN Insider please post. Thanks.



http://espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nbarumors&id=27070&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.googl e.com.ph%2F%22%7D
Bad link

[Uriel]

Bad link
My bad. Here you go:

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/insider/rumors/post?id=47719

[jesterbobman]

That link just says that teams are all over the board on him, so it's hard to peg. Nothing there, Like most of the speculation on whether XXX will be available at a late pick.

[Snaq O'Meal]

He sounds like a Boris Diaw clone.

Or a Steve Smith clone, depending on how you look at it.

[Baam]

Found a link to a very interesting insider article, not the one you requested but still worth a read :

http://bbs.hupu.com/9711799.html

It's Kevin Pelton projecting the international prospects' WARP...



The results are striking this year. Four of the top five prospects by WARP in the 2014 draft have never played in the NCAA. Except for Ricky Rubio, all four rate better than any previous European prospect in my database (which includes most international players back through 2006).


:wow His top ranked prospect is Capela (confirming his status as the number one target if they trade up), Jokic is also projecting very well, seems like a second round steal in the making...

[exstatic]

After the Finals, I highly doubt that Anderson will be there at 30. People are seeing the value of a swiss army knife like Diaw, especially other contenders near the end of the first round.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

With most players expected to be back next season, the Spurs are very likely to trade the pick or go euro again. Some really nice draft and stash prospects could fall to 30 ( or 30s if they trade down ).

[Richie]

After the Finals, I highly doubt that Anderson will be there at 30. People are seeing the value of a swiss army knife like Diaw, especially other contenders near the end of the first round.

True, but Anderson is nowhere near Diaw physically. The reason Diaw is so useful is because he is so big and strong that he can play the 4, without that size I'm not really sure where he fits. If Anderson doesn't have the athleticism to stay in front of NBA wings, I don't think he'll be able to get on the court.

I liked the idea of him at first, but I'm actually pretty low on Anderson now. Don't see where he fits.

Regardless, I agree with you, he won't be there at #30.

[yavozerb]

After the Finals, I highly doubt that Anderson will be there at 30. People are seeing the value of a swiss army knife like Diaw, especially other contenders near the end of the first round.
I expect Diaw to return to the spurs and I think he will be taking a pay cut to do so even..I too doubt anderson being there at 30


With most players expected to be back next season, the Spurs are very likely to trade the pick or go euro again. Some really nice draft and stash prospects could fall to 30 ( or 30s if they trade down ).
Only player I expect back is Diaw. I expect mills to get an offer in the 4+ mil range in the offseason and I cannot see the spurs matching this. Only players I see returning is Diaw and possibly Daye since his team option is so low at 1 mil. I do no expect baynes or bonner back as well.


True, but Anderson is nowhere near Diaw physically. The reason Diaw is so useful is because he is so big and strong that he can play the 4, without that size I'm not really sure where he fits. If Anderson doesn't have the athleticism to stay in front of NBA wings, I don't think he'll be able to get on the court.

I liked the idea of him at first, but I'm actually pretty low on Anderson now. Don't see where he fits.

Regardless, I agree with you, he won't be there at #30.
Size wise Anderson is longer than Diaw but is about 20-30 lbs lighter. Diaw also has never been athletic so a player like anderson can make it in the NBA if he used properly and surrounded with adequete players.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Only player I expect back is Diaw. I expect mills to get an offer in the 4+ mil range in the offseason and I cannot see the spurs matching this. Only players I see returning is Diaw and possibly Daye since his team option is so low at 1 mil. I do no expect baynes or bonner back as well.

I expect both Diaw and Mills to sign 2-year deals, perhaps with options for the second year. Diaw 2yrs/12-14 mil, Mills 2yrs/5-7 mil. Would still leave enough cap space for the Spurs to offer the full MLE, but they're unlikely to dip into the cap space for 2016.

[yavozerb]

I expect both Diaw and Mills to sign 2-year deals, perhaps with options for the second year. Diaw 2yrs/12-14 mil, Mills 2yrs/5-7 mil. Would still leave enough cap space for the Spurs to offer the full MLE, but they're unlikely to dip into the cap space for 2016.

Hope your right...If Barea can get 4.5+ mil for 3 seasons then I have no doubt Mills can also. Sounds about right on Daiw

[Richie]

I expect both Diaw and Mills to sign 2-year deals, perhaps with options for the second year. Diaw 2yrs/12-14 mil, Mills 2yrs/5-7 mil. Would still leave enough cap space for the Spurs to offer the full MLE, but they're unlikely to dip into the cap space for 2016.

We're due for cap space in 2015 which is what we're aiming for IMO. If we pay Diaw and Mills, hopefully the contracts will be weighted to pay them less in the 2nd year to maximise our chances of landing someone in 2015.

Personally I think we're still a contender if Kawhi continues to improve and we sign Marc Gasol after Timmy/Manu retires. That could all go pear shaped if Kawhi gets a max extension though, that would eat up a lot of cap.

[Mr. Body]

True, but Anderson is nowhere near Diaw physically. The reason Diaw is so useful is because he is so big and strong that he can play the 4, without that size I'm not really sure where he fits. If Anderson doesn't have the athleticism to stay in front of NBA wings, I don't think he'll be able to get on the court.

I liked the idea of him at first, but I'm actually pretty low on Anderson now. Don't see where he fits.

Regardless, I agree with you, he won't be there at #30.

Agree on Diaw's size. He's a PF with SF skills and mobility. That's actually very rare in the NBA. A guy like Draymond Greene could develop that way, but I can't think of many like Diaw. Anthony Mason back in the day.

[BackHome]

If Timmy says he is coming back next year you sure as hell can pencil in that that Mills and Diaw will be signed.

[Baam]

Kevin Pelton said in a chat session today that he'd consider Capela at 5... Kinda reminiscent of Kawhi imo, who was projected as a top 5 picks by some only to be availlable at 15...

[BackHome]

Smoking some serious CRACK to consider Capela at 5...:lmao

[Baam]

Smoking some serious CRACK to consider Capela at 5...:lmao

Why ? He's gonna be better than Randle for sure... The draft is not that strong after the top 3...

[Baam]

DX has McDermott and Stauskas in the top 10, one dimensional offense only role players...

[exstatic]

Smoking some serious CRACK to consider Capela at 5...:lmao

Capela has a WARP projection higher than any other Euro, including Nurkic, Saric, and Porzingis.

[ace3g]

Sportando ‏@sportando (https://twitter.com/sportando) 17h (https://twitter.com/sportando/status/477731599455240192) Ojars Silins will keep his name in the draft, to workout with Grizzlies, Spurs, Pistons http://www.sportando.com/en/usa/nba/122786/ojars-silins-will-keep-his-name-in-the-draft-to-workout-with-grizzlies-spurs-pistons.html … (http://t.co/4HX3GW2O9C)

[Chinook]

I guess a possibility for a second-round draft-and-stash. I'd be all right with that if he is willing to develop on someone else's dime but still go to the summer league.

[Biggems]

maybe we can swing a trade with a team a little ahead of us. They draft Kyle Anderson for us, and we draft 3 players for them with our picks.

[Baam]

I think Tim is gonna play at least two more years so there's plenty of time to work on a project until then... Definitely seems like it's now or never for getting the 4 of the future in the draft as opposed to free agency, here's all the candidates imo (with DX ranks) :

-11- Saric : most upside
-15- Porzingis : compelling two way skillset
-21- Capela : highest defensive upside
-25- Anderson : point forward but small and slow, still can't help seeing some Boris in him
-37- Austin
-40- Inglis

Interestingly it seems like Inglis hasn't taken his name out of the draft so the probably that he has a promise is incredibly high...

Guess my perfect draft would be for the Spurs to trade up to the Sun's 14th pick using Splitter and draft either Capela and Porzingis and then at the end of the first round take a gamble on Anderson (who is probably more of a Manu replacement than anything else).

[BackHome]

So Baam with your perfect pick your OK with the Spurs having ZERO chance of reaching the finals?

[Baam]

So Baam with your perfect pick your OK with the Spurs having ZERO chance of reaching the finals?

We reached the WCF in 2012, with close to no Splitter in the rotation and got beat by the strongest OKC team of the last few years with Harden leading their bench...

We did it before and can do it again... What you lose on D, you get twice as much on offense with Boris...

Let's see down 1-2 to Dallas, Boris sinks a huge 3pter to save the day... Wonder why on the brink of elimination we could afford to have Splitter on the bench, doesn't stop his fanboys to believe we couldn't have won without him... The truth is we can't win with him as the second best big and since he isn't then 10M is a waste of money...

Then Portland was a cakewalk and once we got the good teams we got 2 rounds of Tiago the 10M cheerleader...

So yeah I'd trade Splitter right now and I'd be perfectly fine with it.

[BackHome]

So Duncan going to play on back to back and probably 35 minutes a game in regular season? Don't say that a rookie "Capela" is going to take Splittes minutes next year.

We don't get past Dallas without Splitters D on Dirk.

[AFBlue]

Last opportunity for international early entrants to withdraw is tomorrow at 5pm ET. As I've maintained since his Hoop Summit, if Inglis stays in he's the odds on pick at #30. As for the debate on whether the Spurs should or will trade Splitter...I think it can'tan't be ruled out, though if they win it all I think it's highly unlikely.

[Baam]

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Not really a surprise btw given how young he's and how strong the draft is... We have been saying he was likely to withdraw for a while...

[Uriel]

Now that we've won the championship, I'm so excited for this draft! :hungry:

[100%duncan]

Now that we've won the championship, I'm so excited for this draft! :hungry:

Yes

[TheCerebral1]

At this point, the draft is all icing on the cake. I'm still hoping for a draft day miracle and end up with someone like Payton. There are plenty of guys like Ingles, Capela, Kukic, Micic, and other Euro basketball players are more likely.

[Baam]

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[ceperez]

At this point, the draft is all icing on the cake. I'm still hoping for a draft day miracle and end up with someone like Payton. There are plenty of guys like Ingles, Capela, Kukic, Micic, and other Euro basketball players are more likely.

No space in the Spurs roster for a first round pick.

[Mr. Body]

No space in the Spurs roster for a first round pick.

Not right now, of course, but I could see Ayres or Daye headed on the way out.

[stnick2261]

The bad side to winning it all right before a deep draft is that I want to take the same team to try to repeat... but I also want to blow up the team to get Clint Capela and Elfrid Payton to play next to Leonard for the future.

I'd be happy hearing Inglis, Bogdanovic, or Tavares' name... with maybe Isaiah Austin in the late 2nd round.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just going to pencil in Inglis at 30 unless someone can convince me otherwise.

Best left for the second round.

[Baam]

Interestingly both Jokic and Inglis flip floped at the last second and finally got promises good enough to keep their name in the draft :

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I actually really don't like the idea of picking Inglis, I think they still believe in Livio and it wouldn't make sense to get another player so similar. I really believe the theory that Inglis got his promise from the Thunder, especially since Durant got destroyed in the post the last few years by Lebron and Boris, they could really use a freak 3 like Inglis to play small.

The 2 main roles they should look for are super obvious at this point : a playmaker from the bench or a big... Both with the most upside possible so that they give themselves a chance to find someone to complement TP and Kawhi... There's no pick I'd like more than Anderson, but I'm not looking at it objectively, I'm a Boris lover who just loves that kind of skillset. Could be anyone in that range that fits the description... Micic, Tavares, Dinwiddie should be there at 30... Could even be Jokic...

[xmas1997]

One mock draft has Inglis going at 29 to OKC.

[ChumpDumper]

Interestingly both Jokic and Inglis flip floped at the last second and finally got promises good enough to keep their name in the draft :

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I actually really don't like the idea of picking Inglis, I think they still believe in Livio and it wouldn't make sense to get another player so similar. I really believe the theory that Inglis got his promise from the Thunder, especially since Durant got destroyed in the post the last few years by Lebron and Boris, they could really use a freak 3 like Inglis to play small.

The 2 main roles they should look for are super obvious at this point : a playmaker from the bench or a big... Both with the most upside possible so that they give themselves a chance to find someone to complement TP and Kawhi... There's no pick I'd like more than Anderson, but I'm not looking at it objectively, I'm a Boris lover who just loves that kind of skillset. Could be anyone in that range that fits the description... Micic, Tavares, Dinwiddie should be there at 30... Could even be Jokic...Well, none of those guys would play next season anyway, so draft the young guy with upside. Duplication doesn't matter.

[ChumpDumper]

OK, my uninformed draft picks barring any movement are:

Inglis at 30. Leave in France. Try to trade to Tony's team.

Whoever is left of Huestis, Birch or McRae at 60. Straight to Toros.

[Baam]

OK, my uninformed draft picks barring any movement are:

Inglis at 30. Leave in France. Try to trade to Tony's team.

Whoever is left of Huestis, Birch or McRae at 60. Straight to Toros.

Could happen as his current team got relegated in second division this season...

[Richie]

So Inglis is staying in? I hope it was us who gave him assurances, I think the kid is great value at #30. Dude is the size of Lebron, huge for an 18 year old.

A rotation of Parker - Green - Kawhi - Inglis - Duncan would be incredible defensively, and would work offensively as long as Inglis can keep the defence honest from the 3 point line.

I don't see why we would turn him down just because we drafted Jean-Charles last year, especially after Livio tore his ACL. Turning down the best player available because you already have that position covered is what led Portland to draft Bowie over Jordan. Of course if the Spurs don't see Inglis as the best player available at that spot then the argument is moot.

[Richie]

OK, my uninformed draft picks barring any movement are:

Inglis at 30. Leave in France. Try to trade to Tony's team.

Whoever is left of Huestis, Birch or McRae at 60. Straight to Toros.

I like Heustis at #58 or #60, but the reality is that it's very unlikely anyone drafted that low will turn out to be a legit NBA prospect

[ChumpDumper]

I like Heustis at #58 or #60, but the reality is that it's very unlikely anyone drafted that low will turn out to be a legit NBA prospectExactly. That's why they are late second rounders. Just get some guy with talent and see what happens.