How many years has kobe shot above .500

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

anyone?

I'll give you one better. .450?

[Splits]

Wrong stat. FGA is all that matters.

[Rogue]

When no one on his team is allowed to complain about that issue, he's given the green light to jack up as many shots as he feels content with, tbh. It's rare for a guard to shoot above .500 though.

[hater]

ol'sport

[hater]

Kobe shoots 46% and shoots 20 shots a game. that's damn good ma ol'sport

but.....

Michael Jordan shot 50% fucking percent and shot 23 shots a game :wow :wow

GOAT = MJ

this pretty much ends it

[Michael Jordan.]

Caprisun Man avoiding this thread like a job interview.

[LkrFan]

anyone?

I'll give you one better. .450?

AHEM (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/215/tim-duncan)

[Michael Jordan.]

AHEM (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/215/tim-duncan)

How many at .500?

[LkrFan]

How many at .500?
37.5% is pathetic timvp. You can't :downspin: det shitsammich

[Michael Jordan.]

How many at .500?

[Kidd K]

Kobe's never shot 47% once, much less 50%. Outside of his first two seasons (41-42%), he's shot between 43-46.8% his whole career. That's not horrible or anything, just not eye popping.

You could say, "well at least he's never dropped off much from his norm'", but the problem is he's typically always shot right around or below league average from the field and almost always below league average from three.

So in the end, his percetages aren't at all impressive regardless of his number of FGAs. Technically you could have statistically gotten the same production from the rest of the team had he not taken as many shots (based on league average, or even Lakers' team average. Feel free to compare to either). The only thing that really puts Kobe above other players offensively (from a statistical standpoint) is drawing fouls and hitting the three throws. He draws a lot of fouls and hits free throws at a very solid rate.

But yeah, overall his offensive efficiency isn't exactly legendary. Still a good player though, just not some kind of all time hero. Most of his scoring comes sheerly because of mass attempts, not being efficient. AI could fill it up too, but he sure as hell missed a lot.

[Seefourdc]

Kobe's never shot 47% once, much less 50%. Outside of his first two seasons (41-42%), he's shot between 43-46.8% his whole career. That's not horrible or anything, just not eye popping.

You could say, "well at least he's never dropped off much from his norm'", but the problem is he's typically always shot right around or below league average from the field and almost always below league average from three.

So in the end, his percetages aren't at all impressive regardless of his number of FGAs. Technically you could have statistically gotten the same production from the rest of the team had he not taken as many shots (based on league average, or even Lakers' team average. Feel free to compare to either). The only thing that really puts Kobe above other players offensively (from a statistical standpoint) is drawing fouls and hitting the three throws. He draws a lot of fouls and hits free throws at a very solid rate.

But yeah, overall his offensive efficiency isn't exactly legendary. Still a good player though, just not some kind of all time hero. Most of his scoring comes sheerly because of mass attempts, not being efficient. AI could fill it up too, but he sure as hell missed a lot.

Summary: You could have installed just about any average ball handler with average shooting skills and told him to chuck to win 5 championships in LA on the teams he won them on? I guess he was good in the clutch.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/39404083.jpg

[LkrFan]

Silly thread. Sometimes the difference between 50% and 45% is one FG. For example, 10/20 = 50%, right? What about 9/20? You guessed it: 45%. You classholes making a big deal out of a missed FG or two here and there. Never mind that Kobe is frequently given the ball with < 3 seconds left on the shot clock. Then he's asked to shoot over triple teams. We know he has no fear and has made some of the most difficult shots we've ever seen. Truth be told, I think he could give two shits about his FG%.

Funny how simple math escapes most of you farmers. Kobe is a scorer, unlike most prominent SGs, who are pure shooters (although he does own an NBA record for 3s made in a game: 12). Reggie, Ray Allen, Dale Ellis - players like that come to mind. Only MJ himself can be considered better at SG, FG% be damned. And again, I don't think he gives a shit about it.

Has his FG% ever kept him off of all NBA teams? What about all star games? Will Kobe not be a 1st ballot HOFer? Wade's FG% was higher last couple of years. Which one was all NBA 1st team? Funny how even now in his 18th campaign, how he hasn't played one minute this year, that he's still the topic of most ST hatred. You'd swear that he took a shit in y'all cornfields the way you farmhands talk shit about him.

Then again, maybe it's something else... Me thinks this thread may be another way of coping with 6. Maybe it's therapeutic or some shit. I don't know. You have to talk about something to pacify the fact that you guys were 28.2 seconds away from glory. 28.2 seconds away from 5=5. 28.2 seconds from a perfect Finals record. 28.2 seconds is not that long when you think about it. Maybe if Turnobli (AKA Manure) didn't reappear in the clutch. Maybe if Pop left Tammy in the game - which would have prevented Bosh Spice from grabbing the ORB and subsequent kick out to RA for The Shot! heard around world. It just wasn't meant to be. Instead, you'll be forever on the butt end of 5>4 jokes. Neal with it sons. :toast

[Michael Jordan.]

Lkrfan is MADDD sons :lol

[LkrFan]

Lkrfan is MADDD sons :lol
Nah, not in the least. :lol

[will_spurs]

It's rare for a guard to shoot above .500 though.

It's indeed very rare. Recently only Nash and Parker have been consistently in this territory.

[ambchang]

Truth be told, his fg% really isn't THAT bad.

Since 1977-78, there has been 133 player seasons where a player shot more than 20FG a game and played 50 or more games. Kobe's best season shooting wise was 08-09 where he shot .467 with MVPau getting all those double teams. That would have ranked him 74 out of those 133 player seasons.

For comparisons sake, Lebron James, who is clearly a much better player than Kobe had a season where he shot .472 from the field and ranked 67 out of those 133 player seasons. While that was Kenton's worst season shooting wise, We have to keep in mind that Kobe's best was almost as good as Lebrons worst, and that is an accomplishment in itself.

You have to respect Kobe. His best season was almost as good as Lebrons second season in the league as a 20 year old.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Doesn't shoot 50% all year but when he plays verse the spurs in the playoffs he does LOL

[da_suns_fan]

Silly thread. Sometimes the difference between 50% and 45% is one FG. For example, 10/20 = 50%, right? What about 9/20? You guessed it: 45%. You classholes making a big deal out of a missed FG or two here and there. Never mind that Kobe is frequently given the ball with < 3 seconds left on the shot clock. Then he's asked to shoot over triple teams. We know he has no fear and has made some of the most difficult shots we've ever seen. Truth be told, I think he could give two shits about his FG%.

Jordan, Lebron, Durant etc were also given the ball with < 3 seconds left and didnt need the EXCUSES you give Kobe.

Explain that.

[Michael Jordan.]

:lol "asked to shoot over triple teams" with his teammates wide ass open.

[Brunodf]

:lol Most missed shots of all time

[Bynumite]

Career playoff average vs the spurs: 25 PPG on 48% shooting imho.

Plus lol @ Jimbo Jim :lol averaging 11.5 points on 11.5 attempts and 39% shooting :lmao

6 really did a number on the cuck :lmao

[HI-FI]

Silly thread. Sometimes the difference between 50% and 45% is one FG. For example, 10/20 = 50%, right? What about 9/20? You guessed it: 45%. You classholes making a big deal out of a missed FG or two here and there. Never mind that Kobe is frequently given the ball with < 3 seconds left on the shot clock. Then he's asked to shoot over triple teams. We know he has no fear and has made some of the most difficult shots we've ever seen. Truth be told, I think he could give two shits about his FG%.

Funny how simple math escapes most of you farmers. Kobe is a scorer, unlike most prominent SGs, who are pure shooters (although he does own an NBA record for 3s made in a game: 12). Reggie, Ray Allen, Dale Ellis - players like that come to mind. Only MJ himself can be considered better at SG, FG% be damned. And again, I don't think he gives a shit about it.

Has his FG% ever kept him off of all NBA teams? What about all star games? Will Kobe not be a 1st ballot HOFer? Wade's FG% was higher last couple of years. Which one was all NBA 1st team? Funny how even now in his 18th campaign, how he hasn't played one minute this year, that he's still the topic of most ST hatred. You'd swear that he took a shit in y'all cornfields the way you farmhands talk shit about him.

Then again, maybe it's something else... Me thinks this thread may be another way of coping with 6. Maybe it's therapeutic or some shit. I don't know. You have to talk about something to pacify the fact that you guys were 28.2 seconds away from glory. 28.2 seconds away from 5=5. 28.2 seconds from a perfect Finals record. 28.2 seconds is not that long when you think about it. Maybe if Turnobli (AKA Manure) didn't reappear in the clutch. Maybe if Pop left Tammy in the game - which would have prevented Bosh Spice from grabbing the ORB and subsequent kick out to RA for The Shot! heard around world. It just wasn't meant to be. Instead, you'll be forever on the butt end of 5>4 jokes. Neal with it sons. :toast

:lol
son, you need to learn to just give up when faced with a smarter, more prepared adversary.
http://usopenborders.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/cbp-borderpatrol1.jpg

[Venti Quattro]

0 years. Good lord let's stop making threads that can be sorted through basketball-reference.com

[Michael Jordan.]

Career playoff average vs the spurs: 25 PPG on 48% shooting imho.

Plus lol @ Jimbo Jim :lol averaging 11.5 points on 11.5 attempts and 39% shooting :lmao

The Deflection 11.0

[Deuce Bigalow]

2001 WCF: 33.3 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 7.0 apg, 51.4%FG
4-0 W

2008 WCF: 29.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 53.3%FG
4-1 W

stay mad

[Arnold Toht]

^ Ouch.

[Venti Quattro]

2001 WCF: 33.3 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 7.0 apg, 51.4%FG
4-0 W

2008 WCF: 29.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 53.3%FG
4-1 W

stay mad
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao oh my god

[ElNono]

:lol kobestan Bigablow trying to pull stats to save face...

You can say "none", tbh... Venti already did :lol

[ElNono]

:lol Most missed shots of all time

:lol volume shooter

[Deuce Bigalow]

4 seasons of an eFG% of above .500 tbh

4 times in the playoffs too

when you understand that a 3 pointer is worth 1.5X more than a 2, you would understand efficiency better but I dont expect spurfan to get it.

[ElNono]

4 seasons of an eFG% of above .500 tbh

4 times in the playoffs too

when you understand that a 3 pointer is worth 1.5X more than a 2, you would understand efficiency better but I dont expect spurfan to get it.

So, "How many years has kobe shot above .500"?

You can say it... we already know :lol

[ambchang]

Laker fans very proud that Kobe shot a good percentage against Steve smith and Brent Barry with shaq and MVPau drawing doubles.

[whitemamba]

Hey OP.. How many years has Duncan been getting cucked
for?

[Michael Jordan.]

When niggas can't respond, they deflect. These are things we know.

[JamStone]

Obviously zero. But over .450 probably more than you'd think. I believe it's 12 of his 17 years. As a guard who shoots a lot of jumpers, Kobe is arguably about where you'd expect him to be. If you look at some of his contemporaries during his career like Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Ginobili, T-Mac, I'm sure you'd find similar FG% production, with perhaps a little more variance, perhaps a better peak. Someone mentioned it earlier, but one thing you can say about Kobe's shooting, it has been pretty consistent over his career, whether you regard it as good or bad.

Another thing about Kobe both fans and critics should be able to agree on is that often times throughout his career he has settled for the jumper as opposed to constantly and relentlessly attacking the rim like a guy like LeBron. But you can look at it as a double edged sword. Kobe's FG% has suffered in part because of that. But also, you can say it helped him have a longer career with fewer injuries for a guard. Look at Wade. He's a couple years younger than Kobe and has played 6 fewer seasons in the NBA, but his body is wrecked. He has the body of a 40 year old, where he can show flashes and glimpses of his former athleticism, but not for 36 minutes, not for 82 games. Wade has a really pretty FG% for a guard, but his knees and his feet and his back and his wheelchair might feel differently about what's more important. You can look at how Vince Carter evolved his game later in his career into more of a jumpshooter. Similar to how Jordan changed his game later in his career. Similar to what LeBron will likely have to do with his game later in his career if he wants to lengthen it. Kobe just started doing it earlier on in his career. Efficiency suffered, but not enough that it prevented a pretty successful career.

It's fair to criticize Kobe's FG%. It isn't amazing for a perimeter player, like LeBron or Michael or Magic. It's fair. It's probably nit-picking. Kobe is one of those few guys whose game will get completely picked apart by his detractors. Even the littlest thing will be bashed on. It's understandable. There's a lot to not like about Kobe, both on and off the court. So shit like this is a foreseeable product.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Laker fans very proud that Kobe shot a good percentage against Steve smith and Brent Barry with shaq and MVPau drawing doubles.
Every single point Kobe scored in the 08 WCF


http://youtu.be/CmT7nL9Gnkw

Not a single "MVPau drawing double teams" was seen

Luke Walton drew a double team once

You're pathetic :lmao

[Deuce Bigalow]

So, "How many years has kobe shot above .500"?

You can say it... we already know :lol
4 times with an effective FG% above .500

[ElNono]

lmao kobestan keeps deflecting... this is clearly a touchy subject :lol

[ElNono]

When niggas can't respond, they deflect. These are things we know.

[Deuce Bigalow]

lmao kobestan keeps deflecting... this is clearly a touchy subject :lol
Yeah I know, see ambchang's post above

[ElNono]

Let's talk about something else

crofl

[Deuce Bigalow]

crofl
Lets talk about how Pau was the real MVP :lol

[ElNono]

When niggas can't respond, they deflect. These are things we know.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I already answered the question. 4 times when you factor in the 3-pointer.

[ElNono]

I already deflected the question. 4 times when you factor in the 3-pointer.

fify

Jam is also a big Kobefan, and he didn't avoid answering The Question, tbh... nobody should... there's no shame in being in the second tier of great players, like T-Mac, AI... tbh

[Medvedenko]

Love those 08 west highlights.

[spurraider21]

Obviously zero. But over .450 probably more than you'd think. I believe it's 12 of his 17 years. As a guard who shoots a lot of jumpers
you could stop there. if his FG% sucks because of his shitty shot selection, thats his problem not ours

[SupremeGuy]

Quality thread, tbh. :lol

[ambchang]

Every single point Kobe scored in the 08 WCF


http://youtu.be/CmT7nL9Gnkw

Not a single "MVPau drawing double teams" was seen

Luke Walton drew a double team once

You're pathetic :lmao

1st play, entire defense collapsed in the paint, leaving Bowen to cover Kobe one on one 15 feet away from the basket.
2: MVPau handoff, nuff said
3: Leaving Kobe wide open when everybody was scrambling to cover MVPau
4: Screen, MVPau hand off, again, and guarded by Ud:lolka
5: singled throughout, no double. Duncan wouldn't leave the inside for fear of MVPau
6: Steal
7: Entire defense collapsed in paint in fear of MVPau, leaving Kobe wide open
8: Kobe ignoring open MVPau
9 Fast Break
10: MVPau moving screen
11: Illegal push
12: Good shot
13: Lucky bank
14: MVPau pass again
15: Semi break
16: Wide open worrying about MVPau
17: Good shot after double on LUUUUUUUUke
18: Good shot
19: Collapsed defense in paint
20: Collapsed defense in paint, unwarranted foul
21: Ud:lolka
22: No double
23: Semi break
24: Entire defense in paint, with MVPau doubled
25: Good cross over, no double
26: Good layup
27: Collapsed paint
28: Caollapsed paint
29: Bad defense
30: Bad defense
31: Bad defense
32: Lucky shot
33: Bullshit foul shot

etc ....
So the entire Spurs defense never doubled Kobe, and collapsed the paint on every possession. So called for a feared scorer.

[Michael Jordan.]

It's been a terrible year for these boys in purple.

[Deuce Bigalow]

1st play, entire defense collapsed in the paint, leaving Bowen to cover Kobe one on one 15 feet away from the basket.
2: MVPau handoff, nuff said
3: Leaving Kobe wide open when everybody was scrambling to cover MVPau
4: Screen, MVPau hand off, again, and guarded by Ud:lolka
5: singled throughout, no double. Duncan wouldn't leave the inside for fear of MVPau
6: Steal
7: Entire defense collapsed in paint in fear of MVPau, leaving Kobe wide open
8: Kobe ignoring open MVPau
9 Fast Break
10: MVPau moving screen
11: Illegal push
12: Good shot
13: Lucky bank
14: MVPau pass again
15: Semi break
16: Wide open worrying about MVPau
17: Good shot after double on LUUUUUUUUke
18: Good shot
19: Collapsed defense in paint
20: Collapsed defense in paint, unwarranted foul
21: Ud:lolka
22: No double
23: Semi break
24: Entire defense in paint, with MVPau doubled
25: Good cross over, no double
26: Good layup
27: Collapsed paint
28: Caollapsed paint
29: Bad defense
30: Bad defense
31: Bad defense
32: Lucky shot
33: Bullshit foul shot

etc ....
So the entire Spurs defense never doubled Kobe, and collapsed the paint on every possession. So called for a feared scorer.
Pau was never double teamed. Next clown

[ambchang]

Pau was never double teamed. Next clown

The entire defense collapsed to guard MVPau. How was he not doubled?

[Deuce Bigalow]

The entire defense collapsed to guard MVPau. How was he not doubled?
Lol