LMAO at Andrew Luck > Cam

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lmao

No Reggie Wayne = no Luck production

No Reggie Wayne = losses to the Cards 40-11, and to the Rams 38-3 (I believe)

"but, but but... he's white... he's the greatest"

nope. Cam is the best young QB out (I'll give you Wilson) and it's going to stay that way until he reaches superstar status (if you don't consider him such already).

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Andrew Luck vs. Cam Newton
Completion %:
Luck: 58%, Cam: 62%

TD;INT #'s:
Luck 15/7, Cam: 17/9

Passing Yards:
Luck: 2,593, Cam: 2,353

QBR:
Luck: 84.3, Cam: 88.3

Rushing:
Luck: 43 attempts, 263 yards (6.1 yds per) 4 TD's; Cam: 78, 393 yards (4.9 per) 5 TD's

Fumbles:
Luck: 3, Cam: 1

[Spur-Addict]

Most QBs look pedestrian without players to throw to. Especially young ones. He's giving us the every other game Curious Geno treatment without Reggie. Two tough games coming up, they could easily lose both, although I think they'll split.

[Raven]

how about you compare completion on long throws? it's a little misleading to compare completion when every time he has none wide open to throw to, he only needs to run for 1yd to pretend like it wasn't a blown pass play.. that is if you had any intention of actually comparing them..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

how about you compare completion on long throws? it's a little misleading to compare completion when every time he has none wide open to throw to, he only needs to run for 1yd to pretend like it wasn't a blown pass play.. that is if you had any intention of actually comparing them..

Do you even watch Cam play?

Like seriously? You treat this guy as if he runs like Michael Vick or RGIII. Cam is a POCKET PASSER.

[Trill Clinton]

powerful thread. killa cam is taking a shit on the entire league and i'm loving it! andrew luck has been a huge disapointment this year.

[Holden_Caulfield]

luck>>>cam and its not even close :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

luck>>>cam and its not even close :lol

:lmao

are you basing that off the stats above or which QB has a better team?

:lmao :lmao :lmao

i can't even..

:wakeup

:blah

:hat

:lmao

[Holden_Caulfield]

:lmao

are you basing that off the stats above or which QB has a better team?

:lmao :lmao :lmao

i can't even..

:wakeup

:blah

:hat

:lmao
brah i hate the colts but luck will always be better than cam. ALWAYS. but keep drinking that cum juice :lol

[leemajors]

powerful thread. killa cam is taking a shit on the entire league and i'm loving it! andrew luck has been a huge disapointment this year.

They are winning, but I wouldn't call 19/38 for 159 shitting on anyone.

[Raven]

Do you even watch Cam play?

Like seriously? You treat this guy as if he runs like Michael Vick or RGIII. Cam is a POCKET PASSER.

did you really just call cum a pocket passer?

[Holden_Caulfield]

did you really just call cum a pocket passer?
drinking that cum juice is fucking up his psyche :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Yes, Cam is a pocket passer. He ran the ball six times yesterday. He threw it 38 times. 4 of those 6 runs were scripted.

:lmao deflecting stats
:lmao "cum juice"
:lmao salty as fuck

[Bill_Brasky]

:lmao cum drinkers ignoring the fact that he has a beastly run game and Steve Smith to throw the ball to.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lmao cum drinkers ignoring the fact that he has a beastly run game and Steve Smith to throw the ball to.

so what? the stats do not lie lol.

steve smith is 35 fucking years old and we have four receivers with at least 400 yards

[Holden_Caulfield]

:lmao cum drinkers ignoring the fact that he has a beastly run game and Steve Smith to throw the ball to.
dont forget the best scoring defense in the nfl :lol cum drinkers :lol no scrub faggot dick riding cum :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

dont forget the best scoring defense in the nfl :lol cum drinkers :lol no scrub faggot dick riding cum :lol

:lmao

"because cam has the best D in the NFL.. that has to do with his passing statistics :lmao


reaching aren't ya?

[Holden_Caulfield]

:lmao

"because cam has the best D in the NFL.. that has to do with his passing statistics :lmao

reaching aren't ya?

you know how the game works dumbfuck?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

you know how the game works dumbfuck?

Cam needs Keuchly to help him complete a pass.

Their defense is why Cam has better number :cry

"Cam dunt haf tew playz 4rm bhiynd"

[Holden_Caulfield]

Cam needs Keuchly to help him complete a pass.

Their defense is why Cam has better number :cry

"Cam dunt haf tew playz 4rm bhiynd"
keep deflecting faggot :lol that cum juice must taste good

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

keep deflecting faggot :lol that cum juice must taste good

http://spquibble.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/cam-newton-u-mad.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

Luck is overrated right now, but when it's all said and done, he'll have a better career than Cum Newton, tbh....

[Clipper Nation]

No Lyfe Faggot guzzling det Cummy Cum Juice :lol

http://i.imgur.com/EDiwXaa.png

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

No Lyfe Faggot guzzling det Cummy Cum Juice :lol

http://i.imgur.com/EDiwXaa.png


NFL accomplishments and records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=15&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]NFL records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=16&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]Rookie records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=17&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a game (432), September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)
2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a season (4,051), 2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NFL_season)
First rookie in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in back to back games, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals) and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-CamPassRecords-65)
First rookie in NFL history to throw for 10 touchdowns and run for 10 touchdowns in a season.
First rookie quarterback in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards in a season.
Most total touchdowns by a rookie NFL player: 35 (21 pass, 14 rush).
2nd most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback: 706
Along with Andy Dalton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Dalton), the two make the first pair of rookie QB's to make the Pro Bowl.
Most total yards by a rookie quarterback: 4,784.

Records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=18&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

Most passing yards by a quarterback in debut game (422), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals)
Most passing yards by a quarterback in first two games (854), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals) and September 18, 2011 vs.Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-Panthers30-23-66)
First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first career start, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals)
Sixth quarterback to throw for 400+ yards in back to back games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_quarterbacks_who_have_passed_for_400_o r_more_yards_in_a_game)
First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first two career starts, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals)and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-CamPassRecords-65)
Fastest player to throw for 1,000 yards (at Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals), vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers), and vs. Jacksonville Jaguars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville_Jaguars))
First player in NFL history with at least five rushing touchdowns and five passing touchdowns in his first five games[67] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-67)
Most rushing touchdowns in single season by a quarterback (14), achieved on December 4, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers)
Second player in NFL history with 20+ pass TDs and 10+ rush TDs in a season, joining Kordell Stewart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kordell_Stewart) ('97)
First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 10+ rush TDs in a season
First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 500+ rush yards in a season
Had a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown in the same game eight times, tying the NFL single-season record – previously accomplished by Steve Grogan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Grogan) of the New England Patriots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Patriots) in 1976 and Daunte Culpepper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daunte_Culpepper) of the Minnesota Vikings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Vikings) in 2002
Twenty-fifth NFL player (and first quarterback) to have 20 rushing TDs in first two seasons
First QB in NFL history with at least 500 yards rushing in first two seasons
First player in NFL history to have over 250 passing yards and over 100 rushing yards with a passing TD and rushing TD in a game (vs. Falcons on September 12, 2012 - 287 yards passing & 2 TDs, 116 yds rushing & 1 TD)
First player to have 30 passing TDs and 20 rushing TDs in first two seasons
Most passing yards in first two years (7,920)
Highest average yards of total offense, career (293.7)
Second player in NFL history with 7,500+ pass yards and 40+ pass TDs in first two seasons, joining Peyton Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning) ('99)
Second most combined passing & rushing yards through his first 37 starts in NFL history (behind Kurt Warner)
First player in NFL history with 50 passing TDs and 25 Rushing TDs in his first three seasons
First player with 10,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons

Carolina Panthers franchise records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=19&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

Rookie season quarterback records: completions (310), yards (4,051), passing touchdowns (21), completion percentage (60%), passer rating (84.5)
Highest average yards per carry in a season (5.83 in 2012)
Longest offensive scoring play (91-yard pass) to Brandon LaFell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_LaFell), December 24, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers)
Second rookie to make Pro Bowl (with Steve Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith_(wide_receiver,_born_1979)) in 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Pro_Bowl))
First Panther to win AP Offensive Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Offensive_Rookie_of_the_Year)
Most passing attempts without an interception (176)

NFL accomplishments[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=20&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

AP Offensive Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Offensive_Rookie_of_the_Year)
Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_NFL_Rookie_of_the_Year)
2012 Pro Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Pro_Bowl)
Sporting News Rookie of the Year
Offensive Rookie of the Month (1x), September, nominated (4x)
Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_NFL_Rookie_of_the_Week) (3x), Week 4, 15, and 16, nominated (11x)

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

No Lyfe Faggot guzzling det Cummy Cum Juice :lol

http://i.imgur.com/EDiwXaa.png


NFL accomplishments and records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=15&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]NFL records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=16&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]Rookie records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=17&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a game (432), September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)
2nd most passing yards by a rookie in a season (4,051), 2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NFL_season)
First rookie in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in back to back games, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals) and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-CamPassRecords-65)
First rookie in NFL history to throw for 10 touchdowns and run for 10 touchdowns in a season.
First rookie quarterback in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards in a season.
Most total touchdowns by a rookie NFL player: 35 (21 pass, 14 rush).
2nd most rushing yards by a rookie quarterback: 706
Along with Andy Dalton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Dalton), the two make the first pair of rookie QB's to make the Pro Bowl.
Most total yards by a rookie quarterback: 4,784.

Records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=18&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

Most passing yards by a quarterback in debut game (422), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals)
Most passing yards by a quarterback in first two games (854), September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals) and September 18, 2011 vs.Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-Panthers30-23-66)
First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first career start, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals)
Sixth quarterback to throw for 400+ yards in back to back games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_quarterbacks_who_have_passed_for_400_o r_more_yards_in_a_game)
First quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in first two career starts, September 11, 2011 vs. Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals)and September 18, 2011 vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers)[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-CamPassRecords-65)
Fastest player to throw for 1,000 yards (at Arizona Cardinals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals), vs. Green Bay Packers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers), and vs. Jacksonville Jaguars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville_Jaguars))
First player in NFL history with at least five rushing touchdowns and five passing touchdowns in his first five games[67] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cam_Newton#cite_note-67)
Most rushing touchdowns in single season by a quarterback (14), achieved on December 4, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers)
Second player in NFL history with 20+ pass TDs and 10+ rush TDs in a season, joining Kordell Stewart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kordell_Stewart) ('97)
First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 10+ rush TDs in a season
First player in NFL history with 4,000+ pass yards and 500+ rush yards in a season
Had a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown in the same game eight times, tying the NFL single-season record – previously accomplished by Steve Grogan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Grogan) of the New England Patriots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Patriots) in 1976 and Daunte Culpepper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daunte_Culpepper) of the Minnesota Vikings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Vikings) in 2002
Twenty-fifth NFL player (and first quarterback) to have 20 rushing TDs in first two seasons
First QB in NFL history with at least 500 yards rushing in first two seasons
First player in NFL history to have over 250 passing yards and over 100 rushing yards with a passing TD and rushing TD in a game (vs. Falcons on September 12, 2012 - 287 yards passing & 2 TDs, 116 yds rushing & 1 TD)
First player to have 30 passing TDs and 20 rushing TDs in first two seasons
Most passing yards in first two years (7,920)
Highest average yards of total offense, career (293.7)
Second player in NFL history with 7,500+ pass yards and 40+ pass TDs in first two seasons, joining Peyton Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning) ('99)
Second most combined passing & rushing yards through his first 37 starts in NFL history (behind Kurt Warner)
First player in NFL history with 50 passing TDs and 25 Rushing TDs in his first three seasons
First player with 10,000 passing yards and 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons

Carolina Panthers franchise records[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=19&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

Rookie season quarterback records: completions (310), yards (4,051), passing touchdowns (21), completion percentage (60%), passer rating (84.5)
Highest average yards per carry in a season (5.83 in 2012)
Longest offensive scoring play (91-yard pass) to Brandon LaFell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_LaFell), December 24, 2011 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers)
Second rookie to make Pro Bowl (with Steve Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith_(wide_receiver,_born_1979)) in 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Pro_Bowl))
First Panther to win AP Offensive Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Offensive_Rookie_of_the_Year)
Most passing attempts without an interception (176)

NFL accomplishments[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cam_Newton&action=edit&section=20&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

AP Offensive Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Offensive_Rookie_of_the_Year)
Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_NFL_Rookie_of_the_Year)
2012 Pro Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Pro_Bowl)
Sporting News Rookie of the Year
Offensive Rookie of the Month (1x), September, nominated (4x)
Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_NFL_Rookie_of_the_Week) (3x), Week 4, 15, and 16, nominated (11x)

[spurraider21]

T.Y. Hilton would probably be the best receiver on the Panthers...

if i'm down 7 in a 4th quarter though, I'm taking Luck no questions

[Lincoln]

Can someone post stats post Wayne injury for luck? Not trying to troll or talk shit, just curious

[Creepn]

Steve Smith to throw the ball to.

This is dumb. Receivers are dependent on the quarterback. That's why they are called "receivers". If the quarterback sucks, the receivers will get hurt.

[HarlemHeat37]

Statistically, Carolina has the 5th worst offense in the NFC, tbh:lol..

Newton has embraced his role as glorified game manager, I give him credit for that..

[dirk4mvp]

Can someone post stats post Wayne injury for luck? Not trying to troll or talk shit, just curious

Does it make you envious that Scam has replaced Bob in black qb media infatuation rankings tbh?

[Holden_Caulfield]

This is dumb. Receivers are dependent on the quarterback. That's why they are called "receivers". If the quarterback sucks, the receivers will get hurt.
you know who else is a receiver of that cum juice? no lyfe faggot :lol

[Lincoln]

Does it make you envious that Scam has replaced Bob in black qb media infatuation rankings tbh?

sup faggot

[dirk4mvp]

yes

Sup gaysian

[Hoops Czar]

Statistically, Carolina has the 5th worst offense in the NFC, tbh:lol..

Newton has embraced his role as glorified game manager, I give him credit for that..
You play to your team's strengths and for the Panthers, its defense. Cam has already shown he can run, pass and put up points. Overall, Luck has more options on offense and his numbers are less impressive. They're both game managers and its better to have one of those than a guy who just flings the ball around the field. Peyton's also a game manager so I'm not sure what your point even is.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol apparently you don't understand the definition of a game manager, smh..

And calling somebody a game manager isn't an insult, btw..

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

Career Record

Andrew Luck: 18-9 (.667 winning percentage)
Cum Newton: 21-22 (.488 winning percentage)

Advantage Luck


Playoff Appearances

Andrew Luck: 1 (with 2 less seasons than Cum)
Cum Newton: 0

Advantage Luck


Skin Color

Andrew Luck: White
Cum Newton: Black

Advantage Luck


Education

Andrew Luck: Stanford, Architectural Degree
Cum Newton: Auburn, did not finish college, no degree

Advantage Luck


Division Leader so far in 2013

Andrew Luck: Yes

Cum Newton: No

Advantage Luck

[The Gemini Method]

Not choosing to get in on this debate--Luck has fucked me over in FF way too many times of late... :cry

[Lincoln]

Not choosing to get in on this debate--Luck has fucked me over in FF way too many times of late... :cry

You end up starting griffin or luck this week brah?

[The Gemini Method]

You end up starting griffin or luck this week brah? I was in Vegas and I had Luck starting but had 2nd thoughts around 5am Sunday morning but passed out and didn't wake up until 10:30. I should've stuck with RG3...may mistake will cost me a playoff spot :cry

[Hoops Czar]

Career Record

Andrew Luck: 18-9 (.667 winning percentage)
Cum Newton: 21-22 (.488 winning percentage)

Advantage Luck


Playoff Appearances

Andrew Luck: 1 (with 2 less seasons than Cum)
Cum Newton: 0

Advantage Luck


Skin Color

Andrew Luck: White
Cum Newton: Black

Advantage Luck


Education

Andrew Luck: Stanford, Architectural Degree
Cum Newton: Auburn, did not finish college, no degree

Advantage Luck


Division Leader so far in 2013

Andrew Luck: Yes

Cum Newton: No

Advantage Luck


Right Koolaid Man 37...... Cam came to Carolina during a rebuilding phase. They were basically starting over. Luck came to a team that was playoff ready with a ton more talent on both sides of the ball. Indy tanked to get the #1 draft pick just like the Spurs tanked to get a high lottery pick in 1997. Luck actually has more talent surrounding him than Peyton did when he was QB for the colts.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Right Koolaid Man 37...... Cam came to Carolina during a rebuilding phase. They were basically starting over. Luck came to a team that was playoff ready with a ton more talent on both sides of the ball. Indy tanked to get the #1 draft pick just like the Spurs tanked to get a high lottery pick in 1997. Luck actually has more talent surrounding him than Peyton did when he was QB for the colts.

yep

[AchillesHeel]

Luck is overrated, but he'll have a better career than Cum Newton.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

but he'll have a better career than Cum Newton.

:lmao

based off what?

newton is the lebron james of football. once we get our second, third ring, we'll check back up on this

[AchillesHeel]

:lmao

based off what?

newton is the lebron james of football. once we get our second, third ring, we'll check back up on this

What? Lebron puts up monster stats while being efficient as hell, also the best player in the game. Cum is 18th in passing YDS, 20th in YDS/A, 10th in TDs, 18th in Comp%, 25th in YDS/G

There's no statistical evidence of Newton being anywhere near the equivalent of Lebron in Football, he's just an above-average QB, who can run the ball. He's what people thought RGIII would be after his knee surgery. Cum is nothing but a game manager.

[chunticakes]

:lmao

based off what?

newton is the lebron james of football. once we get our second, third ring, we'll check back up on this

do you actually believe the shit that comes out of your mouth?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

do you actually believe the shit that comes out of your mouth?

I don't mean it in the sense of him being the best out... yet.

But he is without a doubt the best athlete in the league. It will take time for him to reach his true peak, but I think we were right on the mark with who we drafted.

[dirk4mvp]

But he is without a doubt the best athlete in the league.

:lol he's not even a better athlete you're comparing him to in the thread title

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol he's not even a better athlete you're comparing him to in the thread title

http://www.troll.me/images/y-u-no/y-u-no-have-brain-u-stupid.jpg

[dirk4mvp]

Cool picture, almost as cool as your ability to post something obviously retarded and hope no one realizes how retarded it actually is.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Cool picture, almost as cool as your ability to post something obviously retarded and hope no one realizes how retarded it actually is.

:lmao

the only thing retarded is your take on how andrew luck is a better athlete then cam.

cam was better in college, better his rookie year, and is better now.

the only thing luck has on him is:
1) a playoff berth (with a significantly better team then Cam had)
2) he broke cam's rookie passing record

that's IT. and cam is more than likely going to make the playoffs this upcoming year, so much for that...

cam is having a far better season tbh, and luck is getting exposed for what he is... no prime-time target = no success for luck.

sure, if you took away steve smith cam wouldn't be as productive. BUT, cam has also thrown to four different receivers for 400 yards at least. the only other QB to do that this year is peyton.

cam has a well-balanced, but really mediocre receiver group, and he is making them look good.

just stop sucking everyone else's dick on this board and form your own opinion. to state luck is the better QB is one thing. to say stupid shit like him being a better athlete is another.

[dirk4mvp]

Cam isn't a better athlete than Luck, no matter how much of a laptop stealing, pay to play coon he is. I really hope your feelings aren't as hurt as you're leading on to be :(


:lol without a doubt best athlete in the league

[Lincoln]

What skills does one have to possess to be a good athlete

[Creepn]

Avoiding sacks from 5 people like he did at that Patriots game was pretty impressive tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

'ir4m harrassing Africans in the paint like he's supposed to, no surprises here.

[Bill_Brasky]

:lmao

the only thing retarded is your take on how andrew luck is a better athlete then cam.

cam was better in college, better his rookie year, and is better now.

the only thing luck has on him is:
1) a playoff berth (with a significantly better team then Cam had)
2) he broke cam's rookie passing record

that's IT. and cam is more than likely going to make the playoffs this upcoming year, so much for that...

cam is having a far better season tbh, and luck is getting exposed for what he is... no prime-time target = no success for luck.

sure, if you took away steve smith cam wouldn't be as productive. BUT, cam has also thrown to four different receivers for 400 yards at least. the only other QB to do that this year is peyton.

cam has a well-balanced, but really mediocre receiver group, and he is making them look good.

just stop sucking everyone else's dick on this board and form your own opinion. to state luck is the better QB is one thing. to say stupid shit like him being a better athlete is another.

nobody like a faggot homer dude. take these shit takes to some backwoods Carolina forum where you won't be completely shit on for posting them.

[Creepn]

'ir4m harrassing Africans in the paint like he's supposed to, no surprises here.

:lol

You just saved a Jew from getting knocked out today.

[spurraider21]

How are people arguing that Luck is a better athlete than Cam

[dirk4mvp]

How are people arguing that Luck is a better athlete than Cam

I guess the reading comprehension of the forum has fallen off a bit recently but no one has. In fact the only point refuted was that Scam is a better athlete than Luck, which based on actual measurables they are nearly identical athletes. There might have even been someone saying Scam is unquestionably the best athlete in the league.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Right Koolaid Man 37...... Cam came to Carolina during a rebuilding phase. They were basically starting over. Luck came to a team that was playoff ready with a ton more talent on both sides of the ball. Indy tanked to get the #1 draft pick just like the Spurs tanked to get a high lottery pick in 1997. Luck actually has more talent surrounding him than Peyton did when he was QB for the colts.

:lol Da fuck? Aside from Wayne, Mathis, old man Freeney, and Bethea the Colts were gutted. Coaching staff and all.

:lmao more talent than Peyton

[spurraider21]

I guess the reading comprehension of the forum has fallen off a bit recently but no one has. In fact the only point refuted was that Scam is a better athlete than Luck, which based on actual measurables they are nearly identical athletes. There might have even been someone saying Scam is unquestionably the best athlete in the league.
cam has a stronger arm and is a better runner plus is african

[dirk4mvp]

The only thing true there is the last thing, which is just unfortunate :(

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol Da fuck? Aside from Wayne, Mathis, old man Freeney, and Bethea the Colts were gutted. Coaching staff and all.

:lmao more talent than Peyton

The black QB brigade loves revising history and pretending that Luck took over a great team.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The black QB brigade loves revising history and pretending that Luck took over a great team.

:lmao he did.

You out of all people shouldn't be talking. You know, considering Cam shit on your team through the air. You can "yards this" and "monkeyball that" but you can't deflect 3 TD's and 0 INT's on your team.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao he did.

You out of all people shouldn't be talking. You know, considering Cam shit on your team through the air. You can "yards this" and "monkeyball that" but you can't deflect 3 TD's and 0 INT's on your team.

When "my team" has had one of the shittiest pass defenses in the NFL, sure I can. You're a homer so you project your stupidity onto me about how much it means since it's "my team".

:crybest 2-14 team in NFL history:cry

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

When "my team" has had one of the shittiest pass defenses in the NFL, sure I can. You're a homer so you project your stupidity onto me about how much it means since it's "my team".

:crybest 2-14 team in NFL history:cry

quit being a little bitch. stop making excuses and crying about it. if cam did bad in that game you wouldn't have went on and on. he lost. cam isn't as bad as you say he is. that is that.

[Pelicans78]

:lmao he did.

You out of all people shouldn't be talking. You know, considering Cam shit on your team through the air. You can "yards this" and "monkeyball that" but you can't deflect 3 TD's and 0 INT's on your team.

Luck took over a terrible. The Colts weren't nearly as good as their record. Biggest reason was how well Luck finished games for them. That Colts team wasn't stacked by any means. Terrible argument.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

:lmao he did.

You out of all people shouldn't be talking. You know, considering Cam shit on your team through the air. You can "yards this" and "monkeyball that" but you can't deflect 3 TD's and 0 INT's on your team.

Vick Ballard- Rookie
Dwayne Allen- Rookie
Coby Fleener- Rookie
TY Hilton-Rookie
Donnie Avery- :lol
Reggie Wayne

Which positions were the Colts stacked at?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Vick Ballard- Rookie
Dwayne Allen- Rookie
Coby Fleener- Rookie
TY Hilton-Rookie
Donnie Avery- :lol
Reggie Wayne

Which positions were the Colts stacked at?
The Panthers have 5 rookies on defense. Them being rookies don't mean shit

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

The Panthers have 5 rookies on defense. Them being rookies don't mean shit

You didnt answer my question. What positions were the Colts stacked at last year when Luck took over?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You didnt answer my question. What positions were the Colts stacked at last year when Luck took over?

He had the same team they Peyton took to the playoffs essentially. They didn't have a complete makeover or anything. That was the team that Peyton took to the playoffs. Period.

[Pelicans78]

He had the same team they Peyton took to the playoffs essentially. They didn't have a complete makeover or anything. That was the team that Peyton took to the playoffs. Period.

It wasn't the same team at all.

[Bill_Brasky]

He had the same team they Peyton took to the playoffs essentially. They didn't have a complete makeover or anything. That was the team that Peyton took to the playoffs. Period.

so what you're saying is that that team needed a Peyton Manning-caliber QB to get them back to the postseason. which Luck did. which means you are essentially saying that you think Luck is every bit as good as Peyton.

[BUMP]

You didnt answer my question.

you should know at this point that your question will never be answered tbh

[hehateme]

Good god scrub pack it up. You are getting shit on in this thread like a dutch porn.

[benefactor]

:lol this thread
:lol cum lovers arguments

[leemajors]

He had the same team they Peyton took to the playoffs essentially. They didn't have a complete makeover or anything. That was the team that Peyton took to the playoffs. Period.

http://magnetforfoolishness.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/gif19.gif?w=640

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Good god scrub pack it up. You are getting shit on in this thread like a dutch porn.

:lmao you guys are so damn salty.

stats and team wins people. Argue that. Keep crying while the Panthers continue their quest to the SB

[Holden_Caulfield]

:lol luck with a playoff appearance and a division title, with a much much shittier team, shitty division though but a division title is a division title, unfortunately :cry

[J.T.]

I didn't notice this thread existed, because honestly, it didn't until I hit "post quick reply" a few seconds ago, but I think it's really hilarious how N0 LyF3 ScRuB bashes Luck for not being awesome without Reggie Wayne yet brushes off the people saying Cam's only good because of a legit running game and Steve Smith. You can't turn a two way street into a one way just by driving down the center stripe, dipshit.

[spurraider21]

he does suck without wayne though

[Holden_Caulfield]

but trent richardson is so good at picking up the blitz :cry:cry:cry

[J.T.]

he does suck without wayne though

I totally agree and it's the Colts fault for sucking at drafting the last 6-7 years minus the 2012 draft which was pretty solid even when you throw out Luck. But my point is you can't build your argument around a qualifying statement and then dismiss your critics who attack you with an equally true qualifying statement.

[spurraider21]

I totally agree and it's the Colts fault for sucking at drafting the last 6-7 years minus the 2012 draft which was pretty solid even when you throw out Luck. But my point is you can't build your argument around a qualifying statement and then dismiss your critics who attack you with an equally true qualifying statement.
i agree. was just making a little side note.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

yep....

and yes i hope i jinx the colts into winning

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lolyou come at the king, you best not miss

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Cam Newton teams wouldn't be able to comeback from a 2-TD deficit, let alone 28 points..

[AchillesHeel]

Let's see Cam do this, tbh.

[spurraider21]

yeah... not many QB's could have pulled that comeback off.

[jeebus]

:lmao low lyfe faggot high tailing it out of the nfl forum after that prediction

[dirk4mvp]

LMAO cum > Lord Luck

[dirk4mvp]

On par with manu > Dirk tbqh

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I eat my crow on this. Luck balled out hard.. I didn't think he had it in him.. props.


:lol Cam Newton teams wouldn't be able to comeback from a 2-TD deficit, let alone 28 points..

Except he's came back from two 14 point deficits or more this season f:lolckt:lolard

Don't forget those 3 picks Luck threw though....

[HarlemHeat37]

I eat my crow on this. Luck balled out hard.. I didn't think he had it in him.. props.



Except he's came back from two 14 point deficits or more this season f:lolckt:lolard

Taking something so literal is really vanilla, tbh:lol..

Cam Newton teams aren't built to come back from deficits, they have a mediocre offense, it's a fact..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Taking something so literal is really vanilla, tbh:lol..

Lol then try not saying something completely retarded

[leemajors]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19bjtlka2i1jogif/ku-xlarge.gif

[Brazil]

Good thread lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Good thread lol

Cam had a superior season

[Brazil]

Cam had a superior season

Sure :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Sure :lol

prove me wrong??

[Brazil]

prove me wrong??

I wont tbh

[johnsmith]

Luck being better than Cam is nothing to be ashamed of...in three seasons from now, Luck will be considered top 2 or 3 in the league....book it.

Fuck, he's already top 10.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Luck being better than Cam is nothing to be ashamed of.

except he's not

[johnsmith]

except he's not

If you started a team from scratch right now, who would you take?

I'd go with Luck...maybe it's just an opinion, but if I had to guess, I'd say I'm in the majority.

[DeadlyDynasty]

If you started a team from scratch right now, who would you take?

I'd go with Luck...maybe it's just an opinion, but if I had to guess, I'd say I'm in the majority.
The only other guy in the conversation would be Rodgers since he's still relatively young, and currently the best QB in the game

[DeadlyDynasty]

nice ball

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

If you started a team from scratch right now, who would you take?

I'd go with Luck...maybe it's just an opinion, but if I had to guess, I'd say I'm in the majority.

Cam has more passing touchdowns, total touchdowns, better completion %, more rushing yards, more yards per throw, better qb rating and has more rushing touchdowns this year than Luck.

[johnsmith]

Cam has more passing touchdowns, total touchdowns, better completion %, more rushing yards, more yards per throw, better qb rating and has more rushing touchdowns this year than Luck.

Again, I'd take luck...dude is going to be a top 3.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Again, I'd take luck...dude is going to be a top 3.

idk what else to say. the stats lay it out imo

[Holden_Caulfield]

Lol this thread is embarrassing

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Lol this thread is embarrassing


Cam has more passing touchdowns, total touchdowns, better completion %, more rushing yards, more yards per throw, better qb rating and has more rushing touchdowns this year than Luck.

[johnsmith]

idk what else to say. the stats lay it out imo

I understand...and your point is extremely valid IMO....I just think the up side for Luck is so dramatically higher than really any qb in the league.

[Holden_Caulfield]

32/32 GMs will take luck over cum anyday of the week and twice on Sundays

[HarlemHeat37]

QBR
Luck: 9th
Cum: 16th

Defense Adjusted Value Over Replacement
Luck: 16th
Newton: 19th

Defense Adjusted Yards Over Replacement
Luck: 14th
Newton: 17th

Effective Yards per game(this stat accounts for usage of your team's possessions and your yards production compared to usage)
Luck: 8th
Newton: 18th


Luck also drew 238 yards in PI calls that aren't counted in the yards numbers, compared to Newton's shitty 55 yards(because he barely throws passes past 15 yards:lol)..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

QBR
Luck: 9th
Cum: 16th

Defense Adjusted Value Over Replacement
Luck: 16th
Newton: 19th

Defense Adjusted Yards Over Replacement
Luck: 14th
Newton: 17th

Effective Yards per game(this stat accounts for usage of your team's possessions and your production in comparison)
Luck: 8th
Newton: 16th

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13994/cam-newton
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14874/andrew-luck

[SupremeGuy]

You need to put the crack pipe down if you would honestly take Cam over Luck.

[Holden_Caulfield]

He's a troll. He can't really be that fucking stupid :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

He's past the point of no return, tbh...gonna sink with the Newton ship.

Luck engineered a 28-pt playoff comeback, and what's frightening is he only played one good half of football. He has no ceiling.

[benefactor]

Fucking Colts. Fucking QB's.

Fuck.

[SupremeGuy]

Luck is basically a thick Rodgers. His potential is pretty crazy.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Fucking Colts. Fucking QB's.

Fuck.
:lolWhat a shitty hand the Texans, Titans, and Jags have been dealt, having to endure what basically will end up being 30 years of GOAT quarterbacking. I'll feel your pain if Mallett is even 1/2 of what Brady is.

[Pelicans78]

:lolWhat a shitty hand the Texans, Titans, and Jags have been dealt, having to endure what basically will end up being 30 years of GOAT quarterbacking. I'll feel your pain if Mallett is even 1/2 of what Brady is.

Mallett's terrible. Guy was a choker in college and an idiot in general. Have no idea why a franchise like the Pats would ever groom a guy like him. Terrible IQ and terrible in clutch time at college.

[Clipper Nation]

steve smith is 35 fucking years old and we have four receivers with at least 400 yards

Funny how those receivers all suddenly became shitty now that they left :lol

[Clipper Nation]

newton is the lebron james of football. once we get our second, third ring, we'll check back up on this
:lmao:lmao:lmao

[spurraider21]

:cry CN melting down, bumping a bunch of no lyfe threads

[AlexJones]

3-1 edge over Cum now...

[spurraider21]

what a terrible, terrible thread.

par for the course with OP though

[benefactor]

:lol

[spurraider21]

newton is the lebron james of football. once we get our second, third ring, we'll check back up on this
wtf

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You boys knew it was coming...


Andrew Luck, despite being given a 1st ballot HOF, a 1st round pick wideout, and the best CFL WR in the game last year, couldn't muster more than 7 points against the Jets. Keep in mind they also have Hilton.

Cam, on the other hand, was up and down with his passing, but still willed his team to victory without their best 2 defensive players.

Luck is a product of a shitty division, and while he probably will step it up, I doubt he could do it consistently on a team with a lack of weapons, such as Carolina.


Going to the SB? :lol please..

[Raven]

You boys knew it was coming...


Andrew Luck, despite being given a 1st ballot HOF, a 1st round pick wideout, and the best CFL WR in the game last year, couldn't muster more than 7 points against the Jets. Keep in mind they also have Hilton.

Cam, on the other hand, was up and down with his passing, but still willed his team to victory without their best 2 defensive players.

Luck is a product of a shitty division, and while he probably will step it up, I doubt he could do it consistently on a team with a lack of weapons, such as Carolina.


Going to the SB? :lol please..

which 1st ballot HOF tbh?

[SuperCam]

You boys knew it was coming...


Andrew Luck, despite being given a 1st ballot HOF, a 1st round pick wideout, and the best CFL WR in the game last year, couldn't muster more than 7 points against the Jets. Keep in mind they also have Hilton.

Cam, on the other hand, was up and down with his passing, but still willed his team to victory without their best 2 defensive players.

Luck is a product of a shitty division, and while he probably will step it up, I doubt he could do it consistently on a team with a lack of weapons, such as Carolina.


Going to the SB? :lol please..


Good chit :tu



More eyes will be open during the first quadrennial Cam-Luck bowl which will end in a ass kicking by the Panthers :hat

[spurraider21]

Cuck and Cum walk into a bar...

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Luck 3, Cum 0.5

[Robz4000]

:lol Luck 3, Cum 0.5

:lol giving Cum half a win for beating that crippled Cardinal team. If he had found a way to lose that he'd of had to retire on the spot.

[SuperCam]

:lol giving Cum half a win for beating that crippled Cardinal team. If he had found a way to lose that he'd of had to retire on the spot.

That same team that your faggot ass niners only beat by 3, put up fewer points against, and allowed them to score more points against :lmao

[chunticakes]

That same team that your faggot ass niners only beat by 3, put up fewer points against, and allowed them to score more points against :lmao

Good chit.

:lol What kind of faggot creates and alternate and talks to himself? Better yet, what kind of faggot uses the word "chit" to be edgy? :lol

[Robz4000]

That same team that your faggot ass niners only beat by 3, put up fewer points against, and allowed them to score more points against :lmao

You mean the same team that walked into your house, blew y'all out, and embarrassed your hero on national tv?

[Raven]

You mean the same team that walked into your house, blew y'all out, and embarrassed your hero on national tv?

...well...

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You mean the same team that walked into your house, blew y'all out, and embarrassed your hero on national tv?

You seem to have low standards.

[Robz4000]

You seem to have low standards.

:lmao this coming from the fuck who got with a girl where fucking cats control the relationship?

[SuperCam]

You mean the same team that walked into your house, blew y'all out, and embarrassed your hero on national tv?


faggot ass niner fans living in the past :lmao

[Robz4000]

faggot ass niner fans living in the past :lmao

:lol living on the streets because you wouldn't get rid of some cats

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

faggot ass niner fans living in the past :lmao

Pretty much this.

[unleashbaynes]

no lyfe, you're the gayest piece of shit posting on this board. you have the perfect fucking username.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

no lyfe, you're the gayest piece of shit posting on this board. you have the perfect fucking username.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/D-KN6_yAmXA/hqdefault.jpg

[Robz4000]

no lyfe, you're the gayest piece of shit posting on this board. you have the perfect fucking username.


Pretty much this.

[Clipper Nation]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/D-KN6_yAmXA/hqdefault.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dbvajea.gif

[benefactor]

Pretty much this.
:lol responding to yourself

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Andrew Luck's career is done. His "legacy" - cemented. This discussion really wasn't even a discussion.

[AlexJones]

Matt Ryan > Luck

[spurraider21]

never forget

1052233087004884993

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Luck is overrated right now, but when it's all said and done, he'll have a better career than Cum Newton, tbh....
Hello old friend. Just wanted to bump this

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Statistically, Carolina has the 5th worst offense in the NFC, tbh:lol..

Newton has embraced his role as glorified game manager, I give him credit for that..
This is the shit I used to have to deal with

[Monostradamus]

Hello old friend. Just wanted to bump this
:lol any day now we should be getting his annual “Anything less than a 19-0 season is a complete chokejob failure for New England.”

[Monostradamus]

Hello old friend. Just wanted to bump this
:lol any day now we should be getting his annual “Anything less than a 19-0 season is a complete chokejob failure for New England.”